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Speaker 1: Vincent College as a Steelers so finish off their practice

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Speaker 1: today here at the St. Vinci College practice number sixteen sixty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this seven on seven drill has all been working inside

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Speaker 1: Pickett made some nice rows while we were gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he's really coming around, starting to warm up

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Speaker 1: But like Rudolph's very similar to Donald in this situation,

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Speaker 1: But it's hard to pull that off when Donald and

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Speaker 1: Baker is clearly their starter. Would you rather have Rudolph

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Speaker 1: really not being nice to Rudolf because Rudolf better than him.

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Speaker 1: But there's still a sliver of chance Donald can be

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Speaker 1: on the roster. Andy Brooke, prior with the ESPN, what

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Speaker 1: was it about this job and working with Omar that

423
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Speaker 1: appealed to you to come over and make the lead

424
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Speaker 1: back to Western p A wow? Um, well, you know

425
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Speaker 1: being from here, starting here as an intern twenty five

426
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Speaker 1: years ago, and then uh, my friendship with Omar, working

427
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Speaker 1: with him back in two thousand in New Orleans, being

428
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: a part of that season where we win the first

429
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Speaker 1: playoff game in the history of the organization and on

430
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Speaker 1: that run, and how our friendships just evolved when he

431
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: moved up here in two thousand and one. UH introduced

432
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Speaker 1: him some of my friends I grew up with my

433
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Speaker 1: family and him getting to know them and and having

434
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Speaker 1: those same friends group of friends. And then just as

435
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: we've grown this business together, you know our friendship, you know,

436
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a strong bond. He was there that night,

437
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: have met my wife. He was at my wedding, we

438
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: were at his wedding, and uh, you know, he's just

439
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: a great guy, high character person. He's really smart, he's

440
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,239
Speaker 1: really savvy, and uh, you know, just have a lot

441
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Speaker 1: of spectamliality to him. And you just couldn't find a

442
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: better opportunity. I mean, to me, this is this is

443
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Speaker 1: an amazing opportunity with a great organization and great people.

444
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Speaker 1: Andy Joe Rudder within his bird trip. Aw you doing

445
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Speaker 1: cret Uh. This is kind of a new role they

446
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: created here assist and gim what exactly are your responsibilities?

447
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: And you focused on one thing maybe more than right.

448
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: So uh be over overlooking the pro side of scouting

449
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: and the college scouting and just working with Elmar daily

450
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: and working with our scouts, standing communication with them, and Uh,

451
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: the one thing I've I've known, just like the place

452
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: I've been we've had the most success, is that we're

453
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Speaker 1: an extension of the coaching staff. Like I tell it

454
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Speaker 1: to our scouts, like we're an extension of coach Tomlin

455
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: and his staff. We're gonna go out and find players

456
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: and fit the job description and fit the type of

457
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 1: culture in the program that he has here. And UH,

458
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 1: that's important. You have that alignment and um, when you

459
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: when you have that working and you have that alignment,

460
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: and great, great things are possible. Any much pursuit of

461
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Speaker 1: w DV. You worked on the Super Bowl winners with

462
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: Baltimore and Philly. Was there anything you found common in

463
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: terms of a trade or an organizational characteristic that helps

464
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Speaker 1: to still fate that. I think the thing on the

465
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Speaker 1: team you found out was a selfless selflessness of the

466
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Speaker 1: players and the love they had from one another. They

467
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: look forward to going to work together. They didn't want

468
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Speaker 1: the season to end. And when you have that kind

469
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Speaker 1: of you know, obviously you have to have the talent,

470
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Speaker 1: but when you have that kind of chemistry in your

471
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Speaker 1: locker room, um, you know you're able to overcome. The

472
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: adversity comes with the season, you know, injuries. I mean,

473
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Speaker 1: if you look at the adversity the Ravens had in

474
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Speaker 1: that season in two thousand twelve, Um, what they had

475
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Speaker 1: to overcome. And in the two thousand seven team, what

476
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: we overcame with Carson Wentz his injury, Jason Peter's injury, Uh,

477
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: Darren Sprawls, a lot of guys went down, a lot

478
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: of guys stepped up, and Um, you saw the veterans

479
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: come back and help the younger guys out. You know,

480
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: when you have that love from one another and that's selflessness, man,

481
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: you can go far and you can overcome those those

482
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Speaker 1: setbacks Andy, Jim Wexel or second Sports. You see, guys, Um,

483
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Speaker 1: how much are new changing from what Kevin did procedurally

484
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Speaker 1: in evaluating college? Right, Well, we're gonna keep building, try

485
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: and keep building upon what he's built here, which is

486
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Speaker 1: you know, he's won two Super Bowls. He's one of

487
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Speaker 1: the best to ever do it. And we're gonna add

488
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Speaker 1: to the process. We're gonna enhance where we can and uh,

489
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Speaker 1: you know, just talking to the guys and and worked

490
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Speaker 1: with him and I knowing him being on the road,

491
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Speaker 1: you know, we want to make him proud. You know,

492
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Speaker 1: what are product this here in the type of players

493
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Speaker 1: we bring in and to keep building on that. But

494
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Speaker 1: we're gonna do some things with you know, communication a

495
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: little bit more. UM. There's some tools we're gonna do now. UM.

496
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: But we're gonna just continue to define Steelers and that's

497
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Speaker 1: the goal. And the Kevin was saying even you know,

498
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: before he retired, he was just talking about you know,

499
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Speaker 1: maybe needing fresh ideas or always wanting to get fresh ideas.

500
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Speaker 1: How is that evolved in what you do when you

501
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: talk about fresh ideas? Right? I think one of the

502
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: things that you know, I was fortunate is to the

503
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Speaker 1: four organizations I've been with UM starting here, learning under

504
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: Mr Non building on for two years and Tom and

505
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: the people we had here UM. You know, it was

506
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: a great way to lay foundation and UH and scouting

507
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: to go to New Orleans for five years UH with

508
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Speaker 1: coach hasl It and UH Mickey Loomis people we had

509
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: done there, and then have the opportunity to to grow

510
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: and develop in the Ravens organization with Ozzie Newsom UM

511
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Speaker 1: and learning there about fit person out in the locker room,

512
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Speaker 1: you know, not just the talent, but you know, your

513
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: your culture, um, and I'm going to Philadelphia and learning

514
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: more of the analytic aspect of it. Um. I think

515
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: all those places have set me up for this, you know.

516
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: I had to go to those places to learn and

517
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Speaker 1: develop and grow and uh whatever we can do to implement,

518
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Speaker 1: to bring things to add so to enhance, uh, to

519
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: evolve a little bit. You know, we're gonna we'll do it,

520
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: you know. And it's just been a fortune. I've been

521
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Speaker 1: fortunate to be around some great ones. I mean I

522
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: spent thirteen years of my career with Bill Nann and

523
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Speaker 1: Ozzie Newsom, you know, to the best to ever do it,

524
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Speaker 1: and um, you know the things that they've done here

525
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: obviously with Kevin. I mean, it's it's just a great

526
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Speaker 1: opportunity to bring to like a dynamic collaboration. You know.

527
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Speaker 1: That's why I looked at it and uh excited with

528
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Speaker 1: a group of guys that we have here and the

529
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Speaker 1: people and the coaching staff and getting a chance to

530
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Speaker 1: work together. And when you were with Baltimore, New Orleans

531
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Speaker 1: and Philly, well there's many guys in personnel staff from Baltimore,

532
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Speaker 1: New Orleans and Phillis the rock Pittsburgh guys on this stuff. No, No,

533
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: there isn't. That's what make this makes it unique here.

534
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: I think it's just it means a little bit more.

535
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: You know, you're from here. You know, you grew up here,

536
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: your roots are here. You don't want to disappoint, you know,

537
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: And I know I feel that way, you know, growing

538
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: up here a Steeler fan, and you know you just

539
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: this is it's a great opportunity and is to me,

540
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: this organization is the gold standard of gold standards, and

541
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: you have an expectation in the standard to live up to.

542
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: Coach talks about it all the time, and we've gotta

543
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: make sure we're doing our part and in this and uh,

544
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: you know we talked about the goal here and the

545
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: goal here is the win number seven, and uh it's

546
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: important and uh we're gonna work everything and poor everything

547
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: we have into it and you can go from there. So, UM,

548
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: it means a little bit more. I think when you're

549
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: from the area and you work for this team, need

550
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: to be a low id get hissport Sports. You mentioned analytics. Um,

551
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: some teams are very heavy in the analytics, so not

552
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: so much where you've all on that spector I think

553
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: if it's applied and you can find a usefulness, it's

554
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: a it's a tool. You know, it's not the end

555
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: all by all, but there are things you can find

556
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: in it that will be helpful. Um, you know, just

557
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 1: little things here and there. So I think the key

558
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: is to find applied. There's so much data, there's so

559
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: many stats right now, you can get inundated with it.

560
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: And I think the key is to find the important things.

561
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: You know, to find the important data and how you

562
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: can apply it to what your program is and what's

563
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: important to your your team and your program. Andy, you

564
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: were part of the GM surge back earlier this year

565
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: when over a dozen people were interviewed. Just what was

566
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: it like to be a part of that and what

567
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: kind of thing did you get the sense of the

568
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: Steelers were looking for as far is like what Jerry

569
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: mentioned the outside ideas right. Uh, well, first, it was

570
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: an honor just to be to have the opportunity and

571
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: to come back for a second interview. Um, you know,

572
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: I looked at it first and foremost just to be

573
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: considered for it, man, it was a great honor and

574
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: a privilege. And then to go through the process with Art,

575
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 1: with Kevin and then with coach Tomlin and uh Dan Jr.

576
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: Um it just felt it felt at home. You know.

577
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: It just felt like either way, it was just it

578
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: was a great experience. And um, like I said, I

579
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: was here twenty five years ago, you know for two

580
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: years as an intern and just getting to know the business,

581
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: making airport runs, doing mail runs, whatever needed to be done,

582
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: I did it. But um, it just felt like it

583
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: felt at home, you know, and it felt like this

584
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: is this is football, this is you know, the Pittsburgh Steelers.

585
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: Out by the trophy case walking in the six see

586
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: the six trophies. I wasn't here when the South Side facility,

587
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: but you walked through that you just amazed, you know,

588
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: and it just stands out and uh yeah, it's just

589
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: it's it's great people and a great organization to evens

590
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: from trip life when you have worked in other places,

591
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: have other folks in those cities those organizations asked of

592
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: you what worked in Pittsburgh while you were there? Like

593
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: what was sort of the secret sauce that that made

594
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: it work? And so what what what do you think

595
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: is you saw the team win championships and be good places.

596
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: I think it's to me. I think it's everybody working

597
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: together as one for common goal. Right, you have alignment

598
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: and everybody's pulling the same direction. And when you have that,

599
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: you gotta have obviously have the talent, you gotta have

600
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: the right people on the bus. And when you have

601
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: that and everyone's going in the same direction, that's when

602
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: you can achieve greatness. That's when you can overcome like

603
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: I said, you could overcome adversity, injuries, things happening. Um,

604
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: And it's just being a tough, resilient team, right, you

605
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: have those kind of players. And I was here, Um,

606
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: I don't you know it was too you know, we're

607
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: six and ten, I think at seven and nine two seasons.

608
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: But you saw like a veteran Gamanti Dawson, you saw

609
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: a veteran Jerome Bettis, you know, a young Hines Ward.

610
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: You know, and uh man, those guys are tough, resilient.

611
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: You couldn't break those guys. Joey Porter, Aaron Smith. You know,

612
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: I was there the first two years and watching those

613
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: guys grow in the league. You know, looking back, is

614
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: how they act and handle themselves us, Like I always

615
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: stopped back to that, Like those guys are some ultimate warriors.

616
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: Best warriors this league, saying so, is that sort of

617
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: an intangible trade you can still rely on when I

618
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: look at players. But at the same time, to some

619
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: of the other questions you've been asked already, extract your

620
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: knowledge of other places that you've worked and inject that

621
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: to the building or a team. Right, it's a it's

622
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: a commonality. I saw it with the Ravens. I saw

623
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: with the Steelers here, with the guys here at Philadelphia,

624
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: we had the same thing. You guys are tough, minded,

625
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: strong willed. You couldn't break them, you know. They just

626
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: they showed up every day and they resilient. And uh,

627
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: that's something you look for in the DNA of a player,

628
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: you know. It's something I believe and I learned here

629
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: at an early age from Mr Nunn and from the

630
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: Steelers organization, and it's carried me through. And when you

631
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: were in I feel like with you, how actively were

632
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: you involved in the draft and either and put it

633
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: together in the draft? Right the last three years I

634
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: was involved that ran the draft meetings and set the board,

635
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, and would organize it and then the end

636
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: of the day, how we make the call um on

637
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: the pick him and coach, coach petersoner coach Arianni. So, um,

638
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: get my inputs at the board, ran the process and uh,

639
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, had some good picks there. So Howard Roseman, Yeah,

640
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: Andy rich Wolf KTK. How good of an evaluation? Did

641
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: you have a team before you got here? Maybe the

642
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: guy that they drafted and maybe how long did it

643
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: take you to geft to speed? Well, it's an exciting

644
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: rookie class. I mean you watch these guys out there perform,

645
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: and I think top to bottom throughout there. Every day, Uh,

646
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: they're sacking days, they keep their head down the grind.

647
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: It's an impressive rookie class. And these guys. We scouted

648
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: these guys when I was in Philadelphia, really talented players.

649
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: All these guys have a mentality. Um, they come out there,

650
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: they're competitive and you see their toughness on the field. Um,

651
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 1: so that's exciting. And then as the team as a whole, Um,

652
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a good mix. I think you get

653
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: a good mix of veterans, excellent veteran players. You some

654
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: young up and coming players and uh they're good people,

655
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: high character guys, you know. So I'm excited to get

656
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: to work with them and get to know the more

657
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: as we go through this process in the season and

658
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 1: the journey we're on any alexander'st for sports now. Um,

659
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: but the way the Steelers handled this transition with Kevin

660
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: doing most of the heavy lifting earlier this offseason, how

661
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: how much does that give you the luxury of the

662
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: time to get to know the players and know the

663
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: team and and the things that you couldn't see from

664
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: the outside before you have to make tough decisions about

665
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: the guys on the roster and things like that. Right, Well,

666
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: that's a great thing of becoming to Latrobe. Being up

667
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: here is you need to be around each other. You know,

668
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: we're up here and we're in our bubble and we're

669
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: working together or eating together, and you're getting to know

670
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: them and it's accelerated and you're watching every day. You know,

671
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: it's flute situation. You're watching guys go out there and

672
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: it's a long camp and we got two more games

673
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: to go and we're to find out more about our

674
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: team as we go through this a more Andy Mark

675
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: Boyde the Athletic, I'm curious your relationship with Boe Moore

676
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: back in too thousand. Was therever any like late night

677
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: talks it's like, hey, we're gonna do this together one day?

678
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: Does that every goal of you working together in the

679
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: high capacity like this? You know what? Um, we didn't

680
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: really have those talks. It was other things in our lives.

681
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean that was going back to twenty two years ago,

682
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: so we had different things in our mind. Um, But

683
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: it was just the connection we made. And uh, when

684
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: he got this opportunity to come up here, I helped

685
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: him out and just try to do some good friends

686
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: of mine and he made good friends with them and

687
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: U you know, just staying in touch and watching each

688
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: other grow. And he's he's the same person you know

689
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: back down, although he's older, but just a grounded guy

690
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: with a great head on his shoulders, you know, a

691
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: high character person and a very loyal friend and very

692
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: loyal person. Gotta go from the Post gazette. Um, you

693
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: know you talked earlier about being an extension of the

694
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: coaching staff with Obviously Mike and Kevin worked really closely.

695
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: With how long Mike's been here, the success he's had.

696
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: Does does he have kind of more of a hand

697
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: in this than other coaches you've been around or is

698
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: it you know, pretty that's how it's been height or

699
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: other stops in terms of his relationship. Yeah, I mean,

700
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: I've been here two and a half months and the

701
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: one thing it's it's pretty evident about Cosham as he

702
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: is passionate. He is a football lover and he loves

703
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: a scouting aspect of it. And he's great to be around,

704
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, the energy he brings, the passion he brings,

705
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: his love of the game. He's a greate, his storian

706
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: of the game too. You know, he's someone you can

707
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: learn from and uh, just to be around him. He's

708
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: fun to be around, you know, because he loves it.

709
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: It just oozes out of him. And uh, you know

710
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna be involved in it obviously, and look forward

711
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: to working with him and collaborating with this and going

712
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: forward on this process. So I also want to ask you,

713
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: I know it's not new to have to be working

714
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: with your brother in his capacity, but doing it here

715
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Brothers on the team, everybody knows how family

716
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: oriented a Steelers are. It special to to have him here. Yeah,

717
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: we feel blessed. I mean to come back to our

718
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: home team, hometown team, and work together and case he's

719
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: really talented. What he does you know he was an

720
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: asset for us in Philadelphia. He's an excellent organizer. He

721
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: does a lot of different things in the operation. He's

722
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: done video, he's done team travel, and he's excellent coordinating.

723
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: He's one of the best in the business. And I'm

724
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: not just speaking as a brother, but I just know

725
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: like people, if you talk to people in the business reputation, Um,

726
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: he's good and he'll be uh he'll be an asset

727
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: for us moving forward. And uh it's like, yeah, it's

728
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: it's great to look down the hall and see him

729
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: or meetings him next to me and uh working six

730
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: years together with him and Alson growing up obviously down

731
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: the hallway from us in our house. You know, Um,

732
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: it's special. Anyone else That was Steelers Assistant general manager

733
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: uh Andy Whittle earlier today with the assembled media, we

734
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: have to take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I

735
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on

736
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. Will be back

737
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: more with more here live from St. Vincit College right

738
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: after this. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

739
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: Williamson on Home of the Black and Gold our Steelers

740
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: Nation Radio Welcome back. I'm Dale Alley here with Matt Williamson.

741
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: We're live from St. Vincent College where the Steelers just

742
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: wrapped up practice number sixteen here just a little bit ago.

743
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: Still some guys out there, um kind of google some

744
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: of them are. Some of them are goofing around over

745
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: in the other field. They're playing soccer. It's like a

746
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: monkey in the middle game of soccer. It looks like

747
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: it's being uh headed by t J. Watt and his wife.

748
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: And you mentioned that she was a college soccer player.

749
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: And I'm not a soccer scout, but she would be

750
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: my first pick of that whole group. I can tell

751
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: you that she's she can control the ball. She's pretty good.

752
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: It makes it look pretty easy and compared to the

753
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: big goofy Steelers out there hacking away at we played

754
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: back the Andy Whitel interview. There was good in the

755
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: previous segment and uh some good stuff there from White's

756
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: first time we've gotten a chance to talk to him

757
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: since he was hired as the assistant GM. And of

758
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: course he's a Mountain lebon And graduate like yourself. Yeah,

759
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: he's a year younger than me from Liebo you know,

760
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: makes me kind of feels and him him saying things

761
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: like twenty five years ago when I the internship, like

762
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: I remember you at the internship, Andy, Well, that was

763
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: a long time but a really good interview. I think

764
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: he's got a real good take on things. And you know,

765
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean he mentioned Bill Nunn, you know, he mentioned something.

766
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: I mean some of the guys he learned from and

767
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: some of those organizations, Like there's thirty two organizations in

768
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: this league, but not all of them are the equal.

769
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: I mean they're just not. Yeah, I mean there's I'm

770
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: not gonna throw some under the bus, but you know, frankly,

771
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: the year I was with the Browns isn't as impressive

772
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: as a year he's with the Eagles. You know. I mean,

773
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: like you learn more, I mean better people, you know,

774
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: better at what they do. But I mean he has

775
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: guys like I know, Tom Donahoe was really influential in

776
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: his career, especially early on. And Tom's great and does

777
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: really really good work. But Saints Eagles and folks, I know,

778
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: you don't want to hear it. The Ravens, it doesn't

779
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: get much better, and they all have different views to

780
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles are very aggressive they're very lineman oriented. You know,

781
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: the Saints are going to push the limits of the

782
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: cap to no end, like more than any team in

783
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: the league. We understand how the Steelers do business, but

784
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: the Ravens are camp pick masters, and they also scout

785
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: a very similar way to the Steelers as well. And

786
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: so if you can combine the best for those four worlds,

787
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: you've got something there. You know, there's a lot of

788
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: good influences would be interesting to you. You heard me

789
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: ask the question about the analytics part of it, right

790
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: Baltimore and in Philadelphia, two of the more analytically driven

791
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: teams into that question without question. But as he said,

792
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: it can't be the only thing that you look at.

793
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: There's just so much out there that there's so much information,

794
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about draft and sparks, scores and

795
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: things of that nature. Yeah, they can be tools, but

796
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: it can drown you too. Yeah, you can get caught

797
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: up in it as well. And I by no means

798
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: think that this organization, and I hope no one thinks

799
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: that they're gonna be, you know, replaced eight with analytics.

800
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's never gonna happen here. And and he's, uh,

801
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: background is tape being on the road scouting. You know,

802
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: just because Omar is a number guy doesn't mean they're

803
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: just gonna We're not evenna watch the tape on this guy.

804
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: He ran a four two and that means he's gonna

805
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: be a great type because numbers tell us it or whatever.

806
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: But I think there's a lot of value analytics and

807
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: analytics is such a wide term, like it almost doesn't

808
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: mean anything. I mean, like how do you handle the

809
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: cap or where do you spend your money as analytics

810
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: or you know, uh, interior offensive lineman run really good

811
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: short shuttles as as an analytic, you know, But I

812
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: mean that doesn't again, you have to balance it. It's

813
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: a tool, it's a tool. Uh. Steelers made multiple roster

814
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: moves today, signing guard William Duncle. Duncle was originally signed

815
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: by the Eagles as an undrafted rookie free agent May,

816
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: but was released in mid June. He played at San

817
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: Diego State, where he started right guard in thirty of

818
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: his thirty two games. Was an All America UH from

819
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: the by the Associated Press one. So that's interesting. Interesting

820
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: they're signing guys on a day when you're cutting five

821
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: of them. Uh. In addition, they also reduced their roster

822
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: to eighty five players. The team placed Karl Joseph, as

823
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: we talked about on the reserve injured list as sometimes

824
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: they make decisions for you, Yeah, as was Anthony Miller

825
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: also heading to the reserve injured list as well. The

826
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: team waived four players that included, uh, defensive tackle Doug Costin.

827
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: He was a guy they signed out of the Uh

828
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: remember he played a little bit on Saturday. Yeah. Uh,

829
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle Jake Dixon, he was the Duke Kane kid.

830
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: I was. I was rooting for him, but I can't

831
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: say I saw a lot out here. Punter Cameron Nizelec

832
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: I guess that, yeah, and then Senator Chris Owens. Okay, okay,

833
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean no massive shocks there. I was rooting for Dixon.

834
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean just because he's a local kid. He's a

835
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: good athlete Bethel Park, right, I think. So. His wife

836
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: actually was my daughter's teacher last year. So I was

837
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: rooting for him then, so you a little uh yeah,

838
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: and she actually asked me one day what I do

839
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: for a living for the first time in her fifteen

840
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: years on there. So Dad, So he's a Steeler, he's

841
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, like a super millionaire. Right, I'm like,

842
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: well a chance training camp. That much is right, But

843
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: sometimes that comes down to you don't mention. You know,

844
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: they signed a guard, yeah right right, Maybe they had

845
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: a garden need more than a tackle is the way

846
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: they looked at it. And chances are none of those

847
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: guys are gonna make the team either way, this cutter

848
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: or whatever, but um, I guess they're chances of being

849
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: on the practice squad a lot less. Now, you know,

850
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: I will say this, We've seen them sign guys like

851
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: that during camp who have made it. That's how the

852
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: handro villain a Wave's a good point, you know, was

853
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: it was released in one of those uh in one

854
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: of those mid camp releases, and the Steelers grabbed him

855
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: right away and like he turned into yeah yeah. So

856
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: just because the guys getting signed at this point in

857
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: camp doesn't mean that he can't work out. And it's

858
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: easy to brush these kind of moves off as throw

859
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: away moves, and frankly, they kind of are