WEBVTT - Fire Drill 065: Super Sunday 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.640 Well, come back to the Fire Drill, hey before I 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:11.840 get into it. Uh. Tuesday morning, the fourth episode of 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:16.320 the Grind uh, sponsored by our friends at golf Tech. Uh. 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:18.079 This is about Joe Hooks plays on the A p 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:23.840 G A tour Uh from Detroit. Great story, great dude. Uh. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:27.280 So that will drop on my Twitter account on YouTube 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.840 fire Pit Collective. Go there, subscribe, like comment do all 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.280 those things please so I can stop saying that because 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.240 I hate asking people to do things, but it's needed. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.400 Please go do do that. Uh. This week on the 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:41.519 Fire Drill, we tried something new. We watched we I 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.560 mean we all wanted to watch the Super Bowl, so 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:48.320 uh we watched the last uh minutes of the Watt 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.800 Management Open kind of live on TV. We talked about 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.720 uh Tiger and whether we thought he'd make the cut. 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:57.560 We talked about how Michael knows what year he was 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:02.080 married and it's an amazing ending to the podcast, so 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.440 stay tuned for that. Uh. We talked about a couple 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.040 of awesome dudes that gave me some tickets to give 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:13.200 away to families and uh. It was a lot of fun, 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.240 as it always is. So thanks to golf Tech for 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:19.640 supporting the grind thanks to Jake, our producer who's behind 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.720 the screen. Uh, without further ado, here's the three of 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:29.000 us talking golf. I got dots in my head. Can't 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:37.039 get Jan nothing what I'm thinking about. Can't get him 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:49.320 now think what I'm thinking about. Hello, this is Alan 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.400 schip Knuck back for another Fire Drill podcast, joined as 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:56.880 always by Michael Bamberger and Philly and Ryan French. In 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:02.280 the heartlands of America, um So the Phoenix Open. There's 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.240 a debate every year about is it good for golf? 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:09.200 Has it gone too far? Is it too much? Um? 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:13.400 It was another rousing week in the desert. Um Ryan, 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.880 you appear to have some thoughts on this jump in. 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:20.280 I think it's perfect once a year, and anyone who 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:24.240 says differently, I just I just like they're probably like 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:28.320 the anti hoodie crowd. Uh listen more than once a year. 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:32.320 Totally agree. It would be way too much. Okay, it's ridiculous. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.519 It's like people running dressed up. There was a streaker, 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.519 pretty good streaker. Good work by that guy, by the way. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.720 Uh made it all the way to sixteen, all the 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.280 way to seventeen, jumped in the pond, got onto the 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.600 letters of the waste management and they couldn't do anything 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.919 about it. Um more than once a year ridiculous once 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:56.960 a year perfect, good for golf. I think ninety eight 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:01.400 percent of the players, maybe a little less. Maybe of 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.560 the players love it once a year again, and uh, 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:10.400 I think it's great for maybe ten eighty like it, 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.240 ten tolerated and ten hate it. Is that is that fair? 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.600 I think that's okay. Michael. You're the voice of the 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.840 establishment at times, um, but also a cool guy, so 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.000 I know you're you're probably conflicted here. Let's let's just 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.679 give it to a straight no judgment once a year. 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.799 I absolutely think it's great, and the only people who 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:30.079 don't like it are the hoodie crowd. Well, someone who's 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.639 already said that. I'm completely I know. I really am 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.320 with Ryan here. I have to say it did take 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.040 me years for it to grow on me, but now 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.720 I'm sort of getting it. Just Super Bowl weak and 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.840 all the rest, and it's different And as long as 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.200 long as nobody's getting hurt and people are having a 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.000 good time, I'm totally unfair to it. But as you 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.960 if you really truly if another tournament tried to do it, 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:54.880 I think it would be it wouldn't work for the 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.760 other tournament, and it would and it would diminish the 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.320 greatness of not the greatness but the fun of this one. 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.800 So I think right now they've got it just where 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.880 they want it. When you say nobody getting hurt, does 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:07.080 that include alcohol, poisoning or other bad decisions? You know, 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.600 hangover to hangover, but you know, falling off the top 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:12.840 like you dropped yourself phone that you're at the Ryder Cup, 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.200 oh man, from the top of a bleacher that you 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:20.920 don't want, but you know, as long as I like it, 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.200 I mean, it's it's great fun. I was on the 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.760 grounds just for a quick cameo because, as some of 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.200 our listeners know, we were out in in Phoenix for 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:32.800 as guests of Golf Tech, and so I went out 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.719 to the course on Tuesday, and I had actually been 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.400 the Phoenix Open and probably a decade. I used to 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:41.159 go a lot, and I sort of forgot even on 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.719 a Tuesday practice around like the crowds they had on Tuesday, 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.000 any other tournament on tour would have killed for those 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.600 as Sunday crowds. It is just an unbelievable crush of 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.919 humanity and also how efficiently the whole thing operates. I mean, 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.640 they've got it down to a science. The the parking, 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.720 I've never seen so many porta potties in my life. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.960 There's tons of people picking up trash. There's the infrastructure 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.520 is so dialed like that. I don't think any other 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.880 place could pull this off, including Augusta National. I mean, 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.000 it's just the way the way they run the whole thing, 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:14.000 the Thunderbirds and others is deeply impressive. And I don't 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.359 know if this is true, but a couple of people 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:20.160 responded on Twitter about it. Um is that they have 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.839 never officially sold out. They usually just keep selling tickets, 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:25.920 and it got so popular this year that they shut 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.480 off ticket sales on Saturday and Sunday. It's like it, 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:33.279 I mean, it is waste management has done it right 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.440 and and honestly, the biggest conversation is like, I don't 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.640 even know if they really needed it to be an 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:44.279 elevated event, because I think the tournament is one of 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.560 the few times of the tournament is the show, right, 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.920 Like no one really cares who's on sixteen, Like everybody 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.760 was going absolutely ape ship last year when Sam Ryder 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.279 made a hole in one. It really doesn't have to be. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.200 It's not It's not about the players. The show is 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:04.359 the show. The fans on the sixteenth hole don't even 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.680 know who any of the players are anyway, so it 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.599 doesn't really matter. That's a good point I will say 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.839 before we move on from the question is it is 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.400 it fun or not fun? Or good for golf or 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.599 not good? I do I do? In this era of 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.960 social media and everything else, there's a fatigue factor I 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.119 think about like Thursday or Friday. I'm already a little 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.880 over it because it's just from from Monday morning on, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.200 it's NonStop. Just to catch people up because we're talking 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.000 about the sixteenth, we're watching, we're trying something new, we're 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.839 kind of watching it live as this goes. And Scottie 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.800 just pulled it left against the grand stand on sixteen, 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.680 not in a good position. The pin is tucked left. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.880 This is dangerous to say since it will be Rooks later, 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.680 but he's making four. Yeah, you don't want to miss 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.760 left there. Um, So yeah, that's my only complaint is 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.960 it's just too much Phoenix open by a certain point 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.280 in the week. But that's all. I've got a rate. 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:05.040 I've got a great cure for that four hole shotgun start. 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:13.520 Yeah yeah, Field. Um, but you mentioned the elevated status, Ryan, 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.480 I mean, you're right, but it has elevated the whole thing. 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:22.320 I mean this leaderboard, Scheffler Rom, justin Thomas Jordan's speech, Um, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.200 you know he's gone backwards a little bit. But and 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.840 how about Nick Taylor is gonna win this golf tournament 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.040 over all of these people. He just hit it to 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.640 the Oh got slowed down. Oh my god, it just 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:37.040 went off. I apologize. I thought, well, yeah, you're right. 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.520 This is the perils brodcasting live on a very firm 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.200 golf course. The ball just keeps trickling. Yeah. I was like, oh, 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.400 he's gonna win. But just to be clear, I mean 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.440 I agree with you. I mean I'm looking at the 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:53.880 at the leaderboard, Scheffler, Rom, j T, Jason Day, Ricky 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.800 was up there for a while. And Nick Taylor of 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.760 all people, I know he has two p G A 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:03.520 Tour wins, but you know, very nondescript player for the 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.400 most part. And well, you know, you make a really 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.960 good Ryan. Like when you were saying that it doesn't 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.400 even need to be a an elevated event, I was saying, 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.640 oh yeah, it really doesn't need to be except you 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.440 frequently forget nobody plays unless it is an elevated event. 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.720 In other words, we could have a great show, but 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.440 you're not gonna have these players. Uh, not one of them. 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.960 Not one of these. You know, ricky Er plays every year, 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:31.560 doesn't he? Yeah, because he's a home game. Although even 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.079 even his nerves are are afraid. Like he got into 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.320 kind of an altercation with the Fae ends of someone 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.120 was shouting at him and dropped the F bomb. He 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.839 stopped and glared for a long time. Um, yesterday, So 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.920 everybody just hit it over the green on seventeen. Rom 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.960 Scheffler and Nick Taylor. It's such a sucker pin you 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.560 gotta hit about one sixties seven, not one seventy five. 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.840 I mean, spoken like a true caddy right there. Look 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.640 at him, still got it. If only you've been on 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.280 Tom Watson's bag, I'm gonna say it was like an 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.800 hold of Turnberry could have kept from going over that green. Michael, 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.199 I don't know, As you know, Alan, my close personal 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.960 friend Neil Oxman, and he really is a close personal friend. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.160 Mike David some Live the third who is I have 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.400 a nice friendship with, but Neil tom Watson's goutt He 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:19.040 is truly a close personal friend. First off, Neil wasn't involved. 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.800 Second off, the chances of we're really going down the 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:25.800 road here, but the chances of any caddy telling Tom 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:31.000 Watson anything anywhere ever is zero one two. He had 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.720 he had a perfect shot. It just took a hard bounce. 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.760 Well he can't. He carried it too far. I will 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.440 go to my grave. I was standing right there and 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.320 I was watching a lot of shots come in and 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.079 you just had to land at ten yards short of 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.880 where he landed it Like you would think that the 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.480 master of all links talking about Tom Watson, not you, 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:52.200 Michael would know that. But anyway, you know who completely 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.920 agree you know who completely agrees with you? Stewart sink 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:59.680 absolutely yeah far, But now he doesn't say he says 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.080 for but for you know, that's asking a lot on 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:07.319 the Links course. You know, the guy was pumped full 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.640 of adrenaline, like it's likely he's going to carry a 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.400 little too far unless he accounts for that. But without 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.280 going down the turn very rabbit hole, which wasn't would 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:19.160 you write that? What'd you write that night? I um? 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.320 I wrote all the guys who blew it. If I 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.000 recall correctly, and I've told the story for but not 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.480 a long time. Everyone always forgets Lee west which should 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.360 have won that thing. He three putted the string second 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.880 hole to miss the playoff by one stroke, and I 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.480 followed him into the locker room and it was it 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.160 was It was a cool seed. You know, the fabled 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.280 locker room is not a thing like golf fans believe. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.439 You know, the guy's clear out a lot. There's very 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:48.839 little hanging out and card playing and telling tales. He 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.240 maybe in the old days, but not anymore. But this 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.640 was an exception. I don't know why. There was just 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.720 there was a bunch of players in there drinking and 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.640 watching the finish, and Westwood came in and they were 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.640 hooting and holler in, you know, because things were happening, 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.719 and Westwood walked in and went dead silent. It was 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.839 like they had actually seen a ghost. And you know, 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.559 I was behind him, so I couldn't see his face, 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.600 but um, he he just sneaked through this sort of 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:16.920 byzantine locker room and wound up laying on this bench hyperventilating, 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.080 and it was no one was there, and I wasn't 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:21.839 gonna ask any questions. I just kind of observing. But 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.080 some point it's like, do I need to go called 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.640 medical personnel? Like it was serious, like it it tells 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.520 you like these guys put on a brave face, but man, 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:33.800 what's going on inside is different. I'll never forget that. Um. 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:39.240 But so this is now the first full field elevatedd event. 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.000 We had Cappalua, which always just feels like a little 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:43.760 bit like an exhibition, and even though they added some 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.599 non winners to buff out the field, this was the 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.360 first time we had a lot of guys there and 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:49.959 had like the Nick Taylor's of the world. I mean, 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.480 I think as as Ryan is alluded to, and it's 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.880 it's all the talk of the tour that the elevated 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.439 events next year gonna go to seventy players, no cuts 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:04.360 and just basically be w g cs. I think this 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.040 this week is a great rebuttal I mean, you had 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.480 a full field, you had a Monday qualifier, you had 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.480 all kinds of long shots and dreamers. You have one 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:14.440 guy who might actually pull it off. Um, So I 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.960 would I would be I would wonder. I mean, obviously 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.000 you have to see how they build the fields, but 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.880 I would guess the last couple of seasons that's Nick 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.400 Taylor has had, He's probably not even a part of 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:29.160 this field. That's seventy uh and so very borderline. Yeah yeah, 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.199 So it's like again, I just and this has nothing 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.160 to do well it has something to do with lift. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.720 Is that we all say it's boring because there's no cuts, 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:39.520 that w G c s didn't make it because it's 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:43.400 boring and no cuts, and you know, just it never worked. 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.280 So now we're going back to that just like it 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.400 boggles my mind. Quick question, just for clarification, is it 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:54.360 a done deal seventy I think that would be a growth. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.200 So where where is it? It's just in the stages 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:01.120 of discussion erect did there's a vicious bad happening behind 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:05.480 the scenes amongst the middle class and the ruling class 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.960 the pg tour and well, if the ruling class were 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.680 a little smarter, for one thing, they would definitely want 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:13.920 full field with the gut because for one thing, they're 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:17.040 rulers today, but when they're thirty six, they'll be looking 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.040 to get in. That's number one. And number two is 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.160 you're gonna kill the PGA tour. As we know if 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.520 you go all these events seventy no cut, it would say. 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.520 It's not even a conversation though. And I'm not even 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.160 talking about Ryan's thing about protecting Mondays, which I think 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:33.920 is great in the yargue to beautifully in the story 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.040 the other day. I'm just talking about the life gloob 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.760 with the PGA Tour. For the ordinary fan to show 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.080 up there any time Thursday Friday and you know you're 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.480 gonna watch golf, to have two waves, to be hanging 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.440 on that board Friday night. Just see if you make 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.000 the cut or nut. That's the PGA Tour. You're you're 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.400 actually gonna kill. I hate this word your product if 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.440 you do that. Well, I mean this tournament is the 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:56.120 rebuttal to that, though, Michael, because what do we say, 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.920 we're all we're all jolly because the leaderboard, Scottie Scheffler, 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:03.040 John rom justin, those are the names were excited about. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.439 You had to make a thirty six so cut there 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.559 to be there on on Friday. Every one of those 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.920 guys had a moment on Thursday where they were going south. 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.280 Not necessarily everyone, but some of them certainly did where 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.120 they turned it around. Uh So I don't I don't know. 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:20.200 I don't agree. Let's about to Like Michael said, he's 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:27.720 got a fifteen fter Yeah, yeah, interesting. I mean, I 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.280 mean obviously very bias. I want Monday qualifiers. But even 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.280 if if that doesn't happen, it just has to be 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.760 in my opinion, it has to be full field, dred 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.640 and thirty two. However you make it up, uh or 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.560 D twenty or whatever, it just cannot it cannot be seventy. 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:46.280 It just like, I just don't know how we say 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:48.760 that Live is a mess because there's no cut and 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.480 all that kind of stuff, and then we and w 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.400 g C suck and then we come back and do it. 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.800 I just don't get it. Now. I do understand that 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.360 the top players in the world are looking at their 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.880 people who have left cam Smith, Brooks, Bryson, I'll getting 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:06.840 paid at no cut events. So I get their point 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.960 of it. Uh, They're like, hey, we have negotiating power. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.520 Where the where the reason all this money comes in? 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.080 We want to get paid. But I think they are 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.160 in a lot of ways. So that's just my take. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.440 I'm just saying they're not entirely wrong, because it's the 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:25.720 stars that make the events memorable, the big events, and um, 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.560 I know it's an unpopular view, but I think that 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.160 the casual fan is enjoying seeing these pack leader boards 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:33.800 with a bunch of big names. You know, you had 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.840 it at Cappelua, you have it here. We'll see how 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.640 Rivera plays out. But on such as strong golf course, 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.720 I would expect that you'll have a bunch of top ten, 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.600 top twenty players fighting it out line. I think the 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:49.080 fans may not share our purest instincts and they're enjoying 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.000 the star power. So, um, it's going to be an 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:55.320 interesting part of the debate. I mean, I ought to 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.760 be curious if the if the PGA Tour commissions any 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.280 focus groups with actual fans like I would. I would 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:02.760 love to know. Maybe I'll put up on Twitter and 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.200 we'll just get we'll get a little bit of an 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:09.600 insight into it. But um, it's it's a fascinating question. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.800 Don't we have Don't we have a historic that the 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.240 w g c s didn't work? I mean, we already 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:20.000 have a historic revalence, Like I don't know. Uh, I 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:23.880 hope I'm wrong. I hope I hope they switch. I 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.800 don't want any part of seventy no cut fields and 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:29.720 all these players, and it's going to be impossible to 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.080 break into And how do you move up the money 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.080 list when you're missing every event? If you're seventy first player, 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:39.120 how do you move up by winning seven non elevated events? 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.000 And I just don't get it. One problem with the 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.240 w g C comparison is that there are tournaments that 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:48.720 had no history or tradition and they just going to 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.920 change the history of tournaments that have. But obviously, you 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.080 know Caplua has that, Rivera has that, Phoenix has that, 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.600 so you're you have more of an emotional attachment to 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.400 these term nament when also they have the title world 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:03.960 in it and they went up hanging out in Akron 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.440 and Tucson in places like that, like they never fulfilled 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.359 their mandate and they just went to boring course. Here's 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.160 here it is like, listen, I know I'm in the minority, 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.720 but we are looking at the number one player in 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.480 the world if Scotty wins, and the two hundred and 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.720 thirty second player in the world, Nick Taylor, and they're 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.680 going blow for blow and it's entertaining. It's entertaining as hell, 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.800 And uh again, I don't I don't know how they'll 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.959 make it up or whatever. But Nick Taylor would definitely 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.040 prior to this week assume if he wins would have 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:34.840 been on the outside looking in at this event, I 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.560 would I would guess. Here's Scheffler's part. Putt Oh, Michael, 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.600 you're wrong. He did not make four. He made it 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:45.720 three dead center, fifteen feet son of a business outstanding. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.399 That's all world three right there, especially with you know 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.240 that if you miss that put, they're gonna just rain 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:59.119 down booze on you man. And that makes Nick about twelve. 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.480 He really didn't drop. He did not drop. Great. That 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.760 is some That is some up and down there. Quick 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:06.960 question for you guys there there's a we all know 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:10.200 about paramutual betting, but I learned this morning there's another 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.840 thing called in the world of internet betting called custom betting. 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.520 What I wanted to do was bet chef look at 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.520 this and it's going zero miles per hour when it 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.960 falls in. He's waving like, oh yeah all day long. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:27.040 But that ball could have been short. Um, there's another 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.359 thing on the internet called custom betting. You know what 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.120 I wanted to do this morning, but they didn't want 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:33.240 to give up all the personal information you've got to 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.320 give up like where you are to some you know, 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.800 offshore company. But anyway, what I wanted to do was 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:44.720 bet shecheffler Wyn Phoenix and the Eagles I live in 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.200 Philadelphia to win the Super That would have been easy 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.040 in combination with each other. And that's called I would 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.960 have thought that's called paramutual betting because you've got two 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.520 things going on sort of, But it's actually called making 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.159 a custom bet. Do you guys have any experience with us? 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:02.360 Have you ever? Uh? I love when Michael discover something 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:05.119 new about the Internet that you can actually there's actually 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.359 online betting. Who knew it? He's like, I used to 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.639 just call my bookie. Is that is that things people 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.960 don't do? I got the line out of the Philadelphia 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:20.520 Inquirer and I called my bookie. Yes, people people make fun, 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:25.520 crazy custom bets. And Michael, you can do anything insane. 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.040 You could do a three way bet with the coin 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.240 flip is gonna be ahead and uh, there's gonna be 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.240 a streaker on the sixteenth again and the Eagles are 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.840 gonna win by seven. You can do whatever you want, right, 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.600 And whether Sheppard, graph and Agassi's kids will make it 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.520 to a Wimbledon final, lay it now, Charlie Woods. I'm 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.560 sure there's odds whether he went to Masters. Here comes Taylor. 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:50.480 But my custom is you have to screenshot the bet 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:52.719 and put on social media so everyone can haze you 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:57.040 or root along with you or whatever. Um. That is 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.280 a great part of this podcast when Michael is like, 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:03.480 did you know that you could and rent a car 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.160 and it's not even it's not even a rental car place, 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:10.560 it's a personal Do you know that? When and when Alan, 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.320 even Alan younger than I by a lot, first jog 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:15.480 in British opens, you didn't get a rental car, You've 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:20.160 got a higher car. But now, wow, that's bad. Put 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:24.320 the uh. But now when you go to the UK, 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:28.320 even they say it's a rental car. Nobody uses the 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.919 phrase higher car anymore. That's sad because I love I 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.480 love all the old like that, like the UK guys 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.000 that they'll say going to the referring to her person. 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:38.919 It's not that his name is that he's called this 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.000 guy called Mike who lives in Philadelphia. And just to 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.320 make little things like that always making me smile. Um, 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.120 Mike's Mike's Gonta hospital because his pinkies broke on the hospital. 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:51.680 I learned a new one from Paul McGinley. I was 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:56.399 just interviewing him and we were tunneling deep on old um. 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.840 It was about when this is from my book about 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:02.560 Live of course, when the Strategic Alliance was born and 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:07.359 the PGL was trying to forge a a an alliance 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.359 with the European Tour and then Monahan swooped in. It's 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:12.639 actually really fascinating part of the whole thing that nobody 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.919 I don't think has paid attention to. McGinley was a 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.800 board member for the European Tour and he's talking about Monahan, 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:20.800 you know, came in like guns blaze and then he's 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:23.520 like he showed us the color of his eyes. Was like, 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.520