WEBVTT - Best of 2024: D-Von Dudley 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:36.680 I heard a little birdie, not so little big birdie 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.479 by the name of Love Bubbary Dudley, and he was saying, 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:45.640 you know, maybe you guys are gonna do another loop 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.800 around the world or something as a tag team. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.680 I don't know. Yeah, we talked about it. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:56.080 You know, of course, you know that we're gonna give 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:57.960 give you what the greatest higgs. 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.200 You know, we don't have to do anything. 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.280 To try to reinvent the wheel or anything like that, 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.080 where you know, we go back. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:06.759 We're gonna just. 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:11.720 Give the fans exactly what they like and what they missed, 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.240 so we're gonna hit the greatest hits. 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.960 It's kind like Kiss, the rock group Kiss. You know 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.160 when they when they were they had to make up 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:18.960 on and. 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:21.720 Doing all the old songs, rock and roll all night, 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:23.479 you know, all of those good hits. 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.520 People loved them. The minute they took. 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.440 That makeup off, it was over, tiff was over, and 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.399 you know, and then they started coming up with new songs, 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:36.119 and some of them were good, but they weren't. They 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.440 weren't the classics. They weren't what Kiss was known for. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.679 The minute Kiss put the makeup on and went back 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.919 on tour and started doing those you know, those classics. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:47.720 It was like it was like a resurge in the 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:52.240 arm for kiss, you know, and they just started all 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:52.600 over again. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.440 So now that's what me and Bubba was saying. You know, 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:55.960 we don't have. 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.640 To go out there and try to, you know, reinvent 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.040 the wheel on tag team wrestling or try to have 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:04.320 five star matches. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.880 Let's just go out there and have fun and hit 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:08.800 the greatest hits. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.320 Nostalgia. Nostalgia, that's what people want. 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:13.480 Mm hmmm. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.040 Yeah, and you could give it to him. Can we 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:17.800 see the what's up up? 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.920 Well, maybe we'll do the what's up when Bubba's up 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:24.720 on that top rop doing so reverse it. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.480 Yeah, you're just holding legs open. 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:28.400 Just holding them. 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.079 Hey, that's a good position to be infirmn hold the 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.480 woman's legs open or guy, if you're into that, that's fine. 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:40.800 Yeah. Three D maybe three. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.320 D, which I told him the other day. I would 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.519 have taken that from you. Guys, no problem. It never happened. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:51.120 Yeah, no, never happened. You got away. You were protected. 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:52.000 They got away. 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:56.400 You were protected by three of the toughest men in 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.640 Shane Douglas, Bam Bam Bigelow and Chris. 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.680 Can you know so the Dudleys couldn't touch at that point. 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.000 Yeah, But I also feel like if you came into 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.760 the company earlier than you did, you would have been 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:11.720 feuding with the pit Bulls, and I would have taken 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:12.160 that from you. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.079 Well, I mean again, that would have been the Dudleys. 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:19.240 We did actually work together. My first matchup I think 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:23.000 a c W arena. It was me and Bubba versus 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:27.320 the pit Bulls was with them. Yep, you were with them, 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:32.320 and you beat the hell out of uh oh and 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:37.360 dancing with you had these seven inch I'm gonna say 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:38.320 they were seven inch. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.680 And we're standing. 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:45.920 On freaking uh dancing with Dudley's freaking going back and forth, 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:47.440 up and down, trying to keep them down to you 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.360 were trying to beat them up. I remember looking at that, 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:54.600 I go, this is not wrestling. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.040 I go, what the hell am I doing here? 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.600 Hey, That's what I was told to do, you know? 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.480 Oh yeah, I know, And I remember you you basically, 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.800 I see I turned around and see that, and then 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.720 I start going after you, like walking towards you. It 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.880 was like Jason going after the girl that he wants 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:14.280 to kill. 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:18.039 Something that slow, you know, yes to. 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.120 The girl and we were doing that around the ring 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.039 until I believe Anthony jumped down and hit me in 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:24.719 the back of the head and the back of the ring. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.200 And then that was the night that you got a 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:31.440 Paler bomb, was it? Yeah? 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.320 So later we did the four Corners match. I suppose yep. 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:39.039 So it's funny because we we didn't work together too much, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.120 but there's one match and when I had Bubba on 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.040 and I wish I could we could pull it up 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.920 to show you it because it's hilarious. I don't know 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.640 if I didn't have anybody to work with that evening, 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.000 but Paul made me come out when the Dudleys were 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:55.479 in the ring. It was I think, I guess it 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.520 was a house show. It was never for TV. And 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:03.120 I they make me come out in this big jacket, right, 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.360 and I have you know, I've addressed someone underneath it 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:09.479 or whatever, and I try to entice you and I 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.440 take the jacket off and you do the wa wouza 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:13.359 with the eyes. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:14.240 It was. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:18.000 It was such gaga. It was ridiculous. I end up 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.920 beating up all of you and then Spike comes out 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:26.000 and does like some kind of death like the death drop. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:30.080 Or something the acid drop. That's right. But I gave 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:36.880 like I gave Bubba Ddp's diamond cutter, I did something 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.760 to you. I gave Lou a regular deity to I mean, 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.680 it was ridiculous. I beat up your whole clan. 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:46.120 There was no point. 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:53.960 Podcast well friends in real life. But I look back 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.760 and I say to myself, my god, here i am 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:01.360 one hundred and seventeen pounds soaking way. I got all 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.000 these big men around me, and I'm beating the shit 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.600 out of everybody. It is so not believable. But it 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.400 was just like a little haha Gaga spot to fill. 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:10.800 Yeah. 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.279 The great thing about stuff like that is when you 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.080 look back at it, Yes, realistically, a woman in your 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.640 side should not have been able to take out three 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:23.080 guys outsides. But back then ECW did things like that, 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.240 and even though it didn't make sense, when you look 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:27.920 at it, it was very entertaining. 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.200 It was how we did it right and how we 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:30.880 pulled it off. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.200 We got the reaction, as opposed to some people that 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.160 do things that don't make sense and then there's no reaction. 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.599 We put a lot of entertainment and stuff like that 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.719 to even though people knew that it could never happen. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.040 Maybe there's a possibility it can because ecw' is telling 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:49.600 that story. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:51.000 And that was just what we did. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.000 When you look at some of the matches that we did, 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.520 oh my god, I cringe. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.440 What's the worst match that you had to do that 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.520 you look back, Can you say to myself, good lord, 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:02.680 this is ridiculous? 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:03.520 E c W. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.080 Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna say. I mean, we 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.360 had great matches, but and I'll get to that question. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.240 What I was saying was it was like we're sitting 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.480 up there and when you look at some of the 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.480 things that we're doing, stuff in front of the referee, 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.440 you know, the referees watching and it's not being a 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:22.040 DQ were outside for like five twenty minutes on the 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:23.000 outside of the ring. 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.480 You know, it's like, what the hell were we think it? 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:30.840 But because we made it so entertaining and because we 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:35.160 captivated an audience the way we did, people suspended that 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.040 and just didn't even think about the rules or what 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:38.960 didn't make sense. 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.880 We made them believe it at that point. 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.040 Because the other people were following the rules, The other 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.120 companies were cookie cutter following the rules, and we took 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.320 it outside the box and did things differently. 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.880 That's why we were That's why we were the Nevada 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:58.320 Nevada Vana Nevana. We were the Nevana of pro wrestling. 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.520 There's no different than Nirvana, Havana King. When you know 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:05.120 you have Martley Crue, Metallica, you know, all these hair 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.160 bands that are just killing it in the eighties, and 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.440 it didn't seem like anybody was going to take them down. 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.600 Then Navana came in and just kicked down the door 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.280 and said, Nope, we're breaking the rules. We're gonna be sad, 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.000 pissed off. We're going to tell you how we feel. 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:19.920 I mean, because you know when you when you look 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.360 at that type of music, you're like, oh my god, 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.440 I just I want to murder myself. I'm so sad, 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.080 you know, and it's like, oh my god, it's that 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.120 Seattle feel that they you know, that you always hear about. 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.040 But you know, it was one of those things where 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.959 when Havana did that, it just opened. 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:41.520 Up a whole new door for music. And it was 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:42.959 what we did in me c W. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.640 We kicked the door down and did the opposite of 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.080 what should have been done. 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.079 But when we did it, we did it good. 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.360 And did it very entertaining and fun. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.760 YEP, I forgot what the other question was. 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.320 When you look back at your career, it doesn't even 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.760 have to be in ECW, just matches that you've been 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.000 a part of you. You were saying, like, you look 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.120 back sometimes and you say, oh my god, so cringe. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.520 I cringe when I think of that the worst, the 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.440 worst thing or the worst angle that you've been a 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.880 part of that you look back in your because there's 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.840 things that I've done or clothes that I've worn that 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.320 I'm embarrassed. I'm like, what was I thinking? Like where 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.959 did this come from? Like this was such a bad choice, 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.480 anything that you've ever done that you look back and 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:26.680 you're just like, oh my god. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:34.679 So yeah, TNA, TNA Match, Paid per View, The fish Market, 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:40.160 Street Fight, the fish Market. Yeah yeah, they had fish line, 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:44.439 they had fish on ice. Oh and nothing to that. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.480 This has nothing to do with Curry Man, who was 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:53.000 Christopher Daniels and Shock Boy. Loved those guys working with them. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.760 But I hated this. I don't like fish. I don't 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.680 eat fish. I hate the smell of fish, and it's 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.600 real fish and I it's like, you're a fish market 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.400 and of course, you know, people picking fish up and 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.199 throwing it and hitting people with it. I remember looking 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.800 at curry Man, I said, listen, do not hit me. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.320 Would a guy with a fish? 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.720 I said, you do? It becomes real. Do not hit me. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:17.559 Do not hit me at all with. 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:22.000 What the gimmick? Like, what's the point it was? Vince 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:30.960 russo Enough said, I have never like, does that make 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.880 sense to go to? 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.319 Well, it wasn't it. You had it was a regular match. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.360 Yeah, they go outside and take the fish and hit 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.600 each other as a weapon. Now that was where the 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:47.280 rules were, like, Oh it was. It's like a street fight. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.360 There are no rules in a street fight. You can 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.960 have a regular match, but you can use weapons. 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:52.600 You know. 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:54.160 I would throw up. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:59.280 I threw out my wrestling gear. I threw it out. 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:00.400 It was that bad. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.160 What if somebody just picked up a fish and just 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:04.400 smacked you across the face. 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.319 Well, curry and curry Man Daniels a great but shock 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:09.240 Boy forgot that. 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.280 I said that to him. He got caught up in 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.920 a moment and he took the fish. Oh he hit me. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:18.880 As soon as he hit me, I went, oh potato, 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.720 Uh god, damn no, goddamn fish. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.240 Oh my god, I'm gonna have to look that match 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.559 up because I had never I've never even heard. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.160 Of that one. It was good. 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.480 I hated that match to this day. I said it 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.120 was the worst match because again I never liked it. 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.320 And I remember telling I remember saying something to Russo. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.439 I said, do we have to do this match? 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.920 Oh? Bro, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. Bro, 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.960 it's gonna be great. I'm telling me, people gonna love it. Bro, 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:46.839 it's gonna be great. And I'm like, you feel a 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.440 ship he goes, No, Bubba's he goes bubbas he goes Bubba's. Uh, 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.239 Bubba's cool with it. I looked at Bubba, he goes. 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:56.199 Bubba's face. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.800 I'm just like, Russo, you're lying. I was like, this 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.720 is a god awful match. 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.520 This How how many like big fish were there? 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:07.800 Like? 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.079 Did they have boxes of fish around the ring? 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:10.360 Is that? 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:10.680 No? 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.520 You ever go you ever go to Chinatown or the 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.720 fish market? It was a fish market, you know, like 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.000 the little trade. The big trays that they had they 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.120 filled up with ice and then they put the fish 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:20.600 on top. 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.520 Okay, so it was just like one one. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.040 They had like a whole line of it. They had yeah, 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.200 and they had fish and all that on there. 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.920 It was. It was bad. The smell was horrible. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:39.640 The fans, like, I mean, did not stars ship Nelson. 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.640 He's never given me five stars, and any of the 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.040 matches he gives. 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.240 Me negative stars. 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.640 Not even in the freaking TLC match. I think we 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:49.280 got like two. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:53.000 Oh my god, that's terrible. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:57.319 People still talk about those matches today, thirty something years 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.440 awesome still, But so, I mean, I don't know what 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.840 his problem was, but you know, hey, it is what 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.080 it is, his own. What Well, you know, you two 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.800 guys may see a wrestling match and love it and 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:12.079 I may hate it, but that doesn't mean that I'm gonna, 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.320 you know, out of one to ten stars, I'm gonna go, Okay, 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.840 I get to two. It may get a two for me, 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:22.760 but not everybody else. Should you know, take it as 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.440 you know, you know, everybody else is gonna look. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.319 At it as the two match. Yeah. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:31.280 I just feel like I feel like back then E 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.679 CW never got like not that it means anything but 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.480 the rating system from him, but I feel like none 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.240 of our guys got a lot of stars for them. 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.760 Well, I know a lot of our guys didn't like him. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:44.880 It was pissed off at him. 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.960 But I also know that you're right, none of us 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.560 got any of those I will remember a lot of 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:51.400 people thought. 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.320 E CW was barbaric, right, They didn't like. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:59.720 ECW, even some of the veterans in w CW or 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:04.240 w w W E I'm gonna say that WWF. Yeah, 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:09.000 you know, basically did not know or understand what we 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:09.440 were doing. 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:11.800 And they would say, and a lot of them would say, what. 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.880 We were doing was garbage and this and that until 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:19.480 the fans started catching on and watching and then showing 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.880 their love and support, and you couldn't go to an 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:26.560 arena that wasn't an e c W show, but it 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.200 was like a w c W or WWE show where 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.800 the fans would hijack the show and start channeling e 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:33.400 c W. 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:34.360 Right. 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.000 You know, it was then that people's eyes started to 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.280 wake up. So, you know, Nelson might not have believed 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.400 in what we were doing, but that's fine. But again, 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.440 what is it thirty forty years ago? 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:47.520 East thirty? 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.280 Yeah, it's not quite close to it. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.240 But people still talk about it. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.320 You know, it's it's unbelievable. 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:03.800 Yeah, oh my. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.800 Can we just can I just take this in right now? 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:11.600 We're so the fish. We're for those listening, Uh, we're 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.520 watching the Fish Market Street Fight right now from two 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:19.280 thousand and eight TNA Destination X. So Bub's going for 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.920 a fish for shark Boys. Shark Boy's going for a 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:27.560 net to let y'all know. Oh, Bubba's moving to the fish. Okay, Oh, 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:33.800 shark Boy's got him in the net. Okay, Oh it's Curryman. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:37.680 Oh I saw the Oh okay, I'm sorry. I thought 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.880 that was a fin on his head. Okay, so that's 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:44.000 Christopher Daniels. Oh, yeah, now I see his eyes. Okay, good, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:52.120 and yeah he's he's uh oh he's dancing. Look at that. Yeah, 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.080 Curry Man. I don't remember this gimmick ta. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:57.840 Dropping to the fish. 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:03.560 I would die roa g gross gross. That is disgusting. 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.200 Far as far away could be away from. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:12.160 Them, I don't think I could. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.360 You imagine you're so excited for a pay per view. 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.560 You're a big TNA fan. You can't wait to see 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.520 the Dudleys. Right, you buy a ticket, you're in the 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.280 front row, you think you got good seats, and then 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.400 they put a box of fish next to you, and 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.359 you gotta smell it for like twenty minutes you got, 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.120 which would linger probably for the next two hours because 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:31.880 it stinks. 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.800 I mean, you know, it sounds like it sounds like 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.280 some of my earlier dates. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.240 But enough to travel Lodge. I want to get back 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.600 to something that you said. You were saying that like 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.480 the Vets looked at us as like the Blood and 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.920 Guts company and too much and blah blah blah. I 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.160 remember we did a house show one night, and uh 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.760 we it was like a mixed tag. We did right, 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.080 and we were doing all these like cool spots and 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.560 this and that, and I mean we probably had like 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.360 maybe five hundred to one thousand people in the building. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:14.320 It was the house show. Terry Taylor was there just visiting, 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.920 and we come through the curtain and he stops us 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:19.920 and he looks at all of us and he says, 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.639 why'd you work so hard? I'll never forget this. It 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:28.159 blew my mind. And I said, excuse me, and he goes, 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.960 why'd you just work so hard out there? It's a 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:36.040 house show. I couldn't wrap my head around that reasoning. 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.520 And I said, point blank, I said, well, you know, 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.880 I said, if we drew five hundred tonight. Maybe they'll 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.400 tell a friend and maybe next time we come, we'll 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.639 have a thousand people because we work hard. That's what 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.320 we do here. And he goes, well, he goes when 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.240 we do the loop, we just do the same match 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.400 in every city and it's easy and we save our 0:17:55.520 --> 0:18:01.000 energy for TV. See now you're laughing. I you know, 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.520 And I wasn't a VET at this time. I'm still 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.119 kind of green, so I didn't want to argue with 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.119 the guy, but I'm thinking, that kind of mentality is shit. 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:10.760 Why would you live that way? 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:12.479 We did something. 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:16.040 I didn't learn about that in terms of doing stuff 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:20.600 like that until I got to WWE, right, because a 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.880 lot of the Vets from the eighties were still there. 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:26.320 Late eighties, that. 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:30.000 Is, and you know they had a lot of them 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.520 had the same mentality because it was the old. 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.600 School way of thinking. So the new. 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.879 School way of thinking, like you were describing how you 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.720 felt about it, hadn't really registered yet. It was just that, 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.960 you know, let's get out, let's get through this match 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.720 and get to the next town, and you know, get 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:47.680 the TV with no injuries. And that's just the way 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:52.159 it was. Yeah, But as as a couple, you know, 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.480 sometime went on, you know some of the vets. You know, 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.439 we would do somewhat similar the same match, but we 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.840 would change a little bit up right, you know, to 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.120 make it a little bit different because you never know 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:07.119 who drove, you know, three four hundred miles to the 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.840 next town, and you know you don't want them predicting 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.720 what we had already done in the town the night before. 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.080 So you know, it was always we changed it up 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:17.359 a little bit, not too. 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:18.360 Much, just a little bit. 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.760 But that's and that's fine because we we would do 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.040 like the same thing. We changed some spots here and there. 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.960 But to say, why did you work so hard? To me, 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.560 that's the first thing that came out of his mouth 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.399 when we came in the back. Why'd you work so 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.800 hard out there? And I'm thinking to myself, why wouldn't 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.040 we work hard like they bought a ticket, just like 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:40.920 you would buy a ticket if it was a pay 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:42.320 per viewer or a TV taping. 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.200 I don't know if Terry Taylor would actually agree with 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:50.359 that method now, being that he is one of the 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:54.119 producers and n XT and I say that because you know, 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.800 you got to teach these kids. We have to work, work, 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:01.000 hard for what they do, not just to get the TV. 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.080 So I'm sure Terry Taylor is being a producer on 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.400 the live events and this and that. I don't think 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.520 he has that same mentality anymore, even though he's not wrestling. 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:14.840 But again, I understand what he meant by that because 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.000 that was the way they did things back then. 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:18.680 Didn't they necessarily make it right? 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:23.680 Yeah, but I'm sorry, necessarily make it wrong, but didn't 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:25.639 necessarily make it right either. But that was just the 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:29.480 way they were able to save their bodies, you know, 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:32.840