1 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: The show goes on. This is the official show on 2 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: the Fish Stripes podcast channel where we cover your Miami 3 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Marlins every day in our own way. I'm Eli Susman, 4 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: managing editor of Fish Stripes, encouraging you, pleading with you 5 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: to subscribe to the fish Stripes podcast wherever you get 6 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: your pod enjoy our various audio offerings practically every single day, 7 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: especially on weekdays, for the next six plus months, maybe 8 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: even longer, depending on how the Marlins do. Here in 9 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, one of our final episodes before opening 10 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: day of the season and what is typically in a 11 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: normal year, a calm before the storm little window for us, 12 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: this is not your normal year, of course, coming off 13 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: the lockout, compressed spring training, a disjointed off season, we 14 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: knew there would be substantial moves made around the league 15 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: leading all the way up to opening day, perhaps even 16 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: right after Opening Day. The Marlins directly involved in one 17 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: of them. I'm recording this very shortly after they just 18 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: officially completed a six player trade with the Baltimore Orioles. 19 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: We're about to get into all that. Let's run through 20 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: the headlines small pod style from the last few days 21 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: of Marlins baseball since our last small pod on Friday, 22 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: beginning with what was tentatively my idea of what's a 23 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: cover on this show. Sandy al Contra being confirmed as 24 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: the Marlins opening day starter for the third consecutive season. 25 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: He was great each of the first two times he 26 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: got that assignment, and now he'll be going up against 27 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: the Giants officially on Friday after looking pretty good during 28 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: spring training in what we were able to see from 29 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: him in limited Grapefruit League action. That's going to be 30 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: a treat every time we get to watch him pitch. 31 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: He gets a little bit better every single season, and 32 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: I am I'm really fascinated to see what enhancement he 33 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: makes to his game this year, the one that more 34 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: than a few people think can bring him into perhaps 35 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: Cy Young contention this year and truly establish himself as 36 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: one of the premier pitchers in all of baseball. Minor 37 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: league opening day rosters have been essentially set but not 38 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: formally announced, just little bits leaking out about what Marlin's 39 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: prospects are going to Witch affiliates to begin the regular season, 40 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: the splashiest news of that being Uri Perez, in my 41 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: opinion many others, the number one overall prospect in the organization. 42 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: He is making the leap up to double a Pensacola, 43 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: not yet even at his nineteenth birthday. He's going to 44 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: be challenged against people that could very easily be his 45 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: uncle or his much older older cousin. It is going 46 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: to be a assignment that just has very little precedent, 47 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: especially in the Marlins organization, to challenge somebody less than 48 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: three years removed from becoming a professional and signing out 49 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: of the Dominican Republic. He has grown at just an 50 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: exponential rate and the performance has backed that up during 51 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: the regular season. From what we've heard during spring training 52 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: this year, I'm gonna watch every single one of his 53 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: outings to cherish the time that he has left in 54 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: the minor leagues, because this teenager is special, no other 55 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: way to describe it. Our pal, Alex Carver on Fish 56 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: on the Farm spends a lot of his Saturday afternoon 57 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: dropping assignments for some notable players in the organization. So 58 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure you follow Alex already at Marlin's Miners on Twitter. 59 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: If not, please do so. You could get caught up 60 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: on all the nuggets there, and we should have official 61 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: public announcements about those rosters any day now, even before 62 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: the major league roster comes out. So I'm excited to 63 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: analyze all of those assignments for TRIPAA, Jacksonville, Double A, 64 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Pensacola High A, Beloite, and low A Jupiter coming right 65 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 1: around the corner, going back up to the major league 66 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: team and the final few games of spring training baseball 67 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: in the Grave Fruit League. On Saturday, the game got 68 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: canceled for once. We've had very good luck weatherwise during 69 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: this Florida Spring training so far. This was the first 70 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: game that I think even had any delays weather related, 71 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: and they're not going to be able to make it up, 72 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: which means the Marlins, once all said and done it, 73 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: they're only going to play fourteen spring training games, and 74 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: the thirteenth one was played on Sunday against the Mets, 75 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: the Marlins losing eight to four. I believe it was 76 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: the final score is the least relevant part of the game, 77 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: but it was twenty five combined hits between the Marlins 78 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: and the Mets, along with four errors and some other 79 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: plays that could have been errors. It was a sloppy game. 80 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: It was fortunately a televised game by the Mets crew, 81 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: so we got some nice highlights of that to share 82 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: in a really thorough understanding of what went on. The 83 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: Marlins fell behind pretty big early because Pablo Lopez was 84 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: not effective. It was one of the uglier starting pitching 85 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: performances that we've had from any Marlins pitcher this spring. 86 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: The most important thing is that his velocity ticked back 87 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: up pretty close to where we expected, where he was 88 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: maxing out at ninety six and mostly sitting around ninety 89 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: three ninety four with some ninety five's in there. So 90 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: the v low show there's no concern about him being 91 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: unhealthy at the moment. He was hit hard and he 92 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: faced pretty close to the Mets opening day lineup, so 93 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of understandable that if he leaves too many 94 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: pitches over the plade, they did damage against it. He 95 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: gave up at least one run in every single ending 96 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: that pitched in that particular game. He did show some 97 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: interesting things with his curveball in particular, that's been the 98 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: one pitch that I feel like, if he could master it, 99 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: that really does raise his ceiling as a pitcher, as 100 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: a starting pitcher when he has that working for him 101 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: as well. These they seem to be healthy, so that's 102 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: what's most important. Also in that game, the Marlins did 103 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: take the lead early on a Jorge Solaire lead off 104 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: opposite field home run in the air to right field. 105 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: Marte on his horse back to the track, back to 106 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: the wall, and that is gone. Poor hates later getting 107 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: the Miami Martins on the board very quickly, his first 108 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: home run of the spring. It's one nothing Miami. It 109 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: may have been when to aided it did not look 110 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: off the bat or sound off the bat like it 111 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: was going to go over the wall, but just barely 112 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: did get past the outstretched glove of Starling Marte. First 113 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: spring training home run for sol Lair, even after going 114 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: oh for three and the rest of his at bats 115 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: a twelve fourteen ops one thy two fourteen ops for 116 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: him in his limited spring training action, it's abundantly clear 117 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: at this point that he's going to be the Marlins 118 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: leadoff hitter moving forward into the regular season. We got 119 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: a pretty good idea actually of what that whole lineup 120 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: is going to look like with so Laire Cooper probably 121 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: in the number two spot. There's this chunk of Cooper, 122 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: Hayesius Sanchez, Hasius Aguilar, Avias, hail Garcia, in that exact order, 123 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: and they're either going to be two through five or 124 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: three through six, depending on what Mattingly wants to do. 125 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: With Jas Chishom Junior, Miguel Rojas, Joey Wendell, there's that 126 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: big power block that's going to be in the middle, 127 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: and maybe on some days Rojas against lefties might move 128 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: up to the number two spot against righty's. Perhaps it's Wendel, 129 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: but in general it's it's you know, it's about ten 130 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: guys for nine spots, with Stallings of course at the 131 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: as the catcher near the bottom, and Brian Anderson sort 132 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: of platooning in there kind of in a rotation with 133 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: Wendell and Rojas. I imagine it being barring a surprising 134 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: trade at the last minute, that seems to be where 135 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: we're at. Where it's a deep lineup. There's not any 136 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: one particular guy that truly puts the fear of God 137 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: in you, unless that somebody likes Hilaire continuing what he 138 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: did towards the end of last season. That's what the 139 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: Marlins were betting on when they signed him, and so 140 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: far pretty good using the whole field, moving pretty well 141 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: in left field as well. He had a outfield assist 142 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: in this game that we should highlight. Of course, down 143 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: in a way, went down and got it nicely, and 144 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: Solaire comes in and does their little reverse flip pair 145 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: the pivot perfect one hop really good for him individually, 146 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: Good for Wendell. Wendell a three hit game in this 147 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: one to raise his average the four hundred is ops two, 148 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: nine to five. So those have been two big brides 149 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: for the Marlins the spring, even though overall the team 150 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: is kind of myth about or even run differential, performing 151 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: worse the spring than they have in the past few 152 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: for whatever that's worth. Finally, from this particular game on Sunday, 153 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: very fun to see some of the youngest prospects in 154 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: the Marlins organization get their feet wet in the later innings. 155 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: Khalil Watson, Jose Salas, Osirus Johnson, Brady Allen. Those are 156 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: four guys that I just wanted to highlight in there. 157 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: Watson the top position player prospect in the organization right now. 158 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: He only got one at bat and he struck out 159 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: on three pitches, but he was facing a major leaguer 160 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: in Trevor Williams, so that's understandable. Yes, Salas was in 161 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: there at shortstop for a couple innings. Osirus Johnson had 162 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: a nice hit through the left side that just split 163 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: between shortstop and third and that was also against Trevor Williams. 164 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: I think so another major leaguer for Osiris Johnson who's 165 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: had a a very challenging pro career but has very 166 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: intriguing hitting tools if he does stay healthy and if 167 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: he does stay consistent. Brady and with Brady Allen, you 168 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: might not recognize that name. He was their mid round 169 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: draft pick, fifth round pick out of South Carolina. Last year. 170 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: He did not play in any affiliated minor league games 171 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: because he was coming back from an injury, a very 172 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: unusual circumstance where somebody plays their first major league spring 173 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: training game before having any actual minor league baseball experience. 174 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: That's unusual. Good to see him because we just had 175 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: not gotten much information at all about him as a 176 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: professional player until now. The Marlins announced a block party 177 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: coming up on Tuesday at Wynnwood Walls from four to 178 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: seven pm, giving away some prizes, giving a taste test 179 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: of some of the food at the ballpark, brings some 180 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: other gimmicks in there game for you to try out. 181 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: Some alumni like Gabby Sanchez, Antonio Alfonseka. They're gonna be there. 182 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: Of course, Billy the Marlin is going to be there, 183 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: the Mermaids as well. This is something that you know, 184 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: they've done a little bit of this thing every year. 185 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: They did a lot of it coming off the rebrand 186 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: during the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen offseason, but maybe not 187 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: in this particular location. So there's gonna be more information 188 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: on our website about that if you stop by. I 189 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: don't think anybody from Fish Stripes is going to be 190 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: there because this actually conflicts with our staff Fantasy Baseball draft. 191 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: The rest of you, I hope you have a good 192 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: time while you're there as an appetizer to the actual 193 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: Marlins home baseball that doesn't begin until April fourteenth. With 194 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: all that said, let's get see the trade full details. 195 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: Marlins in Baltimore Orioles. The Marlins acquiring relievers Cole Sorcer 196 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: and Tanner Scott in exchange for Antonio Valez, Kevin Guerrero, 197 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: a competitive batolence Round B draft pick, and the notorious 198 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: player to be named later. In some corresponding moves to 199 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: get Sulcer and Scott on the forty men roster, they 200 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: designated Nick knightert for assignment, and they moved Sean Gunther 201 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: to the sixty day injured list. Let's break this down. 202 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: This is not technically the first trade since the lockout. 203 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: I thought in my mind, hey, this is probably the 204 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: first trade that they've done since coming back. And actually 205 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: there was that little one earlier in the week with 206 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: the Astros to acquire a minor league outfielder, Norell Gonzales 207 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: for cash considerations, that was technically a trade. This of course, 208 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: being the first impactful trade, especially for the twenty twenty 209 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: two chances. It's a win now trade. That's kind of 210 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: the super easy summary is that they traded, for the 211 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: most part, guys that were not going to be contributing 212 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: whatsoever to the team this year. They acquired to experience 213 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: major league relievers that are intriguing in their own ways 214 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: to address what was a pretty clear need in the bullpen. 215 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: I have lamented that how they just put so little 216 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: effort to this point in the off season to improve 217 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: their bullpen. There were so many familiar faces from the 218 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty, From the start of i should say, 219 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty one. Now, remember from the 220 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: start of last off season the bullpen was actually in 221 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: decent shape and it kind of underperformed expectations in high 222 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: leverage situations depending on which way you slice it, you know, 223 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: you could see some bright spots or some negativity from 224 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: that when you adjust for the actual context that the 225 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: bullpen allowed that runs in. There was some reason to 226 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: think that simply with some better timing, that the relievers 227 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: they already had could be more valuable than they were 228 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Yet the ceiling on this bullpen 229 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: was not super high. For one, what stands out is 230 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: the lack of velocity in the bullpen. They were one 231 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: of the very few teams and even are now the 232 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: teams that have more velocity in their rotation than they 233 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: do in their bullpen. They more strike out potential even 234 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: in their rotation than they do in their bullpen. It's 235 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: kind of backwards from what you normally do. When you're 236 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: trying to shut down opponents in tight games in the 237 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: later endings, it's important to have guys that miss bats. 238 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: Sulcer and Scott do that in some very different ways. Sulcer, 239 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: it is really kind of the biggest prize here I 240 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: would say, you know, these guys are very different. I 241 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: would lean towards Sulcer basically on the strength of the 242 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: great year that he just had last year for the Orioles. 243 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame you for not picking up on it. 244 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: For a team that lost one hundred and ten games, 245 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: they just did not have very many meaningful reliever situations 246 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: to detest guys in with Soulcer, he was definitely a 247 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: bright spot for their pen, certainly for the full season. Overall, 248 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: he was the most valuable reliever. Like, if you take 249 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: out the leverage situations, he produced more than two wins 250 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: above replacement. That's very hard to do in a conventional 251 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: relief role. He is only, you know, two plus years 252 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: into his major league career. Yet he's thirty two years old. 253 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: A very unconventional path for a former twenty fifth round 254 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: draft pick, unusual for those guys who make it to 255 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: the big leagues in any capacity. But he did originally 256 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: form the Cleveland organization, spent a bunch of years there, 257 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: didn't quite make it to the highest level, went to 258 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: the Rays, and as usual, the Rays find something good 259 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: in him. His strikeout rates really exploded in what was 260 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: it twenty eighteen, and we're pretty good in twenty nineteen 261 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: as well. This was in the upper miners. Debuted for 262 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: the Rays at the major league level in twenty nineteen, 263 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: but just a very small sample, and then the Orioles 264 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: have had him for the last two years. He's been 265 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: a staple in their pen. In twenty twenty, really high 266 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: walk rate, just not super exciting from the beginning. What 267 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: you can see is this really nasty change up two 268 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: two on the way and he got him ballgame down 269 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: on strikes. Cole Saucer closes it out and gets the win. 270 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: That's going to be the key for him. That's the 271 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: pitch that he throws, what thirty three percent of the time, 272 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: nearly a third of his pitch usage is that change up. 273 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: Because on pure fastball velocity nothing special ninety three miles 274 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: per hour for a right hander, that's actually below average 275 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: for a right handed relief pitcher. It's a change up 276 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: and that slider that he uses off of his fastball 277 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: that is going to make him effective. That made him 278 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: effective last year to the tune of a two point 279 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: seven to zero era. Remember adjusting for the cons that 280 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: he was pitching in the American League against all DH lineups, 281 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: and that he was pitching at Camden Yards for half 282 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: of his games, which is one of the most hitter 283 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: friendly ballparks that has ever been used, especially in modern times. 284 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: There is not much you can do when you put 285 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: balls in the air to actually keep them in the ballpark. 286 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 1: Yet somehow he allowed only five home runs in his 287 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: what sixty three in the third total endings. He led 288 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: four of those five at home, as you would expect, 289 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: so the higher era, higher home runs allowed at home 290 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Overall, though still very effective no matter where 291 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: he was, did well against both lefties and righty's, was 292 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: pretty consistent throughout the season. What changes is his role. 293 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: It took until later in the year for him to 294 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: reliably be put in high leverage situations, and he ended 295 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: up saving eight games. I think the perfect micro the 296 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: perfect summation of the twenty twenty one Orioles is that 297 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: Sulser saved eight games, eight total saves, and that tied 298 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: for the team lead. That's how non competitive they were, 299 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: and that's how much volatility they had at that closer's role, 300 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: where they cycled through a bunch of guys, and Soulso 301 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: was the one that towards the end of the years 302 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: when he really held it down. We always say this 303 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: that it's harder to take September production as seriously as 304 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: other months of the year, So that is something to 305 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: keep in mind with him. That is one of the 306 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: better months that he has. Let's see, he finished the 307 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: year on a string of nine consecutive scoreless outings, but 308 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: it came at a time with expanded rosters. It came 309 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: at a time when it was as obvious as ever 310 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: that the Orioles were not competing for anything, and that certainly, 311 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: you know, helped his overall numbers in a way that 312 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 1: you know, we should be mindful of. Now. The age 313 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: is really not much of a consideration here for somebody 314 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: that's a reliever. Now, it's unusual for someone to be 315 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: thirty two years old and still only have a Major 316 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: League track record of ninety three innings, but that's not 317 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: quite as worrisome for this particular role compared to other 318 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: positions with him. Really, the most important part of this 319 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: trade is that I said it was a win now trade, 320 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: but it also could have pretty considerable long term benefits 321 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: as well. Sultzer's under club control for another four years. 322 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: This is his last year of pre arbitration eligibility, and 323 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: then three more years after that, and that's assuming he 324 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: sticks in the major leagues, which is not total guaranteed 325 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: despite how well he did last year. Presumably at the 326 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: start of the year he's going to get a good 327 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: look in high leverage situations. Might even pick up a 328 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: save or two early in the year when Dylan Floro 329 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: is still on the injured list if they do need 330 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: it eventually, though, still has three minor league options remaining, 331 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: and that could affect his service time if there is 332 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: any stretch of extended struggles. They have that flexibility, So 333 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: they have flexibility, they have affordability, they have long term 334 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: control ability. He's an interesting, really interesting pickup for them, 335 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: sort of like I guess you could draw some parallels 336 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: between him and somebody like John Curtis, who they you know, 337 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: they traded four at this time about a year ago 338 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: and ended up trading him away as well. Where there's 339 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: a lot of intrigue here, but ultimately it's a really 340 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: small sample and you don't have to go back too 341 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: far to find a time when he was kind of 342 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: struggling at the major league level. With him he to 343 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: me is the main pick up here when and Tanner 344 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: Scott is an intriguing guy to take a flyer on 345 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: as well, considerably younger than Soulcer. This is going to 346 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: be his age twenty seven season. He was more highly 347 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: regarded as a prospect, being that he made it to 348 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: the majors when right when he just turned twenty three 349 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: twenty four, I would say so parts of five major 350 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: league seasons with the Orioles and with him it's kind 351 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: of reverse where if you go back to twenty twenty, 352 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: he was awesome for them. He only allowed three earned 353 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: runs in twenty and two thirds innings, so at one 354 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: point three to one ERA that year, only about a 355 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: base runner per inning. And then this past year his 356 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: control really betrayed him. A lot of walks, six hit batters, 357 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: ten wild pitches, and I pulled up this really obscure 358 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: stat from Fangrafts that proportionately the number of wild pitches 359 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 1: that he threw per batter's face, it was the worst 360 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: ratio among all qualified relievers in baseball to throw ten 361 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: wild pitches while facing two hundred and fifty one batters. 362 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: It was the problem of giving up too many free passes, 363 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: so putting runners on base and then kind of hurting 364 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: yourself by missing the target and moving them along into 365 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: scoring position. Bad combination overall. You know, a five point 366 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: one seven ERA, it's not a disaster. Again when you 367 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: adjust for the competition he was facing in the American 368 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: League East Division and the home ballpark he had at 369 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: Camden Yard's first career a four point seven to three ERA. 370 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: An interesting gap between that and his four point fielder 371 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: independent pitching nearly three quarters of a run discrepancy working 372 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: against him over his one hundred and fifty six innings. 373 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: That's something that no matter what your pitching style, it 374 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: should even up a little bit. Eventually. He had spent 375 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: his entire career in the Orioles organization, so nearly eight 376 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: years before this trade coming here to the Marlins, he 377 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: has three years of club control remaining. He's already in 378 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: his first year of arbitration eligibility, and then two more 379 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: years beyond that. A left handed pitcher, if I didn't 380 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: already say so, in a power arm from the left side, 381 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: he's got gas. Throw was a fastball that averaged what 382 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: almost ninety seven miles per hour from the left side. 383 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: This past season goes fifty to fifty pretty much between 384 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: his fastball and his slider, the slider clocking in at 385 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: about eighty eight eighty nine miles per hour. He missed 386 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of time last year with a left 387 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: knee sprain, in fact, two separate iele stints for that, 388 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: and let's see how is he doing here in spring training? 389 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: He pitched four games in spring training and was kind 390 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: of yikes. He did allow eight base runners in three 391 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: and two thirds. I think it was pitched, not super 392 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: encouraged by that. So for this season, earning a little 393 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: bit more than a million dollars right after avoiding arbitration 394 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: with an agreement, I would not expect him to be 395 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: pitching high leverage endings immediately. And also just for his career, 396 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: he's been pretty good against fellow lefty batters, but with 397 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: only like one exception, and aside from twenty twenty, that 398 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: looks like an outlier. Aside from that, he has struggled 399 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: against righties, which means trying to use him very carefully. 400 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: I think the term they use in Major League Baseball 401 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: now is finding lanes to insert a reliever like this 402 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: where you feel pretty confident that he's going to be 403 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: having the platoon advantage that's important for him. With his 404 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: velocity and his delivery, it is really tough on lefties 405 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: to even put the ball in play against him. Somebody 406 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: that will definitely benefit from getting out of Camden Yards. Again, 407 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: everybody does benefits to some extent from that. On the 408 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: pitching side. Pretty high ground ball rates in his career 409 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: fifty three percent last year, fifty eight percent during that 410 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: really effective shortened season in twenty twenty. For context, the 411 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: league average in the majors is like forty three, and 412 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: so he's been hovering well above fifty for in recent years. 413 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: This again being Tanner Scott, the second reliever that the 414 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: Marlins are acquiring here. Also, like Sulcer, he has a 415 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: minor league option remaining if things do go awry. You 416 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to give up on him all at 417 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: once if you don't want to. But he is going 418 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: to be in the opening day bullpen for sure. That's 419 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: kind of why they made this trade, is to give 420 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,239 Speaker 1: them more variety of looks and just more effectiveness than 421 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: their bullpen entering opening day, expecting to carry ten relief 422 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: pitchers for the first few weeks of the season. With 423 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: these expanded rosters instead of twenty six spots as twenty 424 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: eight spots. Given the shortened spring training, the starter's not 425 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: fully stretched out. You put more relievers than you normally 426 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: would in that situation. These guys are going to have 427 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: a pretty important role on the team, both Scott and 428 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: Sulcer right out of the gate. Considering that, as I mentioned, 429 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: Dylan Floro, who might be the best reliever overall in 430 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: this bullpen right now, is not going to be available 431 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: for what might be a couple weeks to start the 432 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: season as he gets loosened up. Basically, no like particular injury, 433 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: just behind everybody else in building up for game readiness 434 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: this season. I like the contrast and styles between Sulcer 435 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: and Scott, combining them seven years of club control remaining, 436 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: which is not as important for relievers as anybody else. 437 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: I think anybody that is talking about this as a 438 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: clear win for the Marlins with the trade, we're going 439 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: to get into the prospects in just a moment. It's 440 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more complex than that. It certainly makes 441 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: our team better for this year, but relying on relievers 442 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: to be like long term pieces of your team is 443 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: always naive. He can go away really quickly, and for 444 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: somebody like Sulcer, especially who kind of came not out 445 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: of nowhere, but it took a long time just to 446 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: reach the big leagues in the first place. It's don't 447 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: get too comfortable or too in love with just the 448 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: raw stuff and the results that these guys have had 449 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: in the past. It's a move that I think was 450 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: right to make. I will also say, in context of 451 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: what they could have done this offseason, I think that's 452 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: where I'm a little bit less enthused about it, Considering 453 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: how many relievers were available in free agency earlier this offseason. Again, 454 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: they gave up were ultimately gonna be four young players 455 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: to get these two relievers, and they've not done anything 456 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: in free agency to address their bullpen despite all the 457 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: guys that were available. Sulser a little bit of closer 458 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: experience Scott when he's well, he's worked in high leverage 459 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: situations before that. I mean, that doesn't compare to a 460 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: lot of the guys that were available on the market. 461 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: Somebody that I was pointing towards early in the offseason, 462 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: Joe Kelly gets goes to the White Sox and a 463 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: pretty reasonable two year deal. You could go all around. 464 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: Almost every reliever, even some of the really established ones, 465 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: were affordable on short term deals. Not quite as efficient 466 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: salary wise than Soulcer and Scott, who combined are going 467 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: to make less than two million dollars. It's just that 468 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: with all these relievers that were available on one year deals, 469 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: two year deals. Jake Deakman another example if you want 470 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: to talk about an alternative to Tanner Scott, Jake Deakman 471 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: from the left side, who's been there and done that 472 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: before and been really effective. I know Kevin Barrall, who 473 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: was a big fan of Andrew Chafin, who got a 474 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: two year deal in free agency as well. On the 475 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: other side of the lockout. The list goes on dozens 476 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: and dozens of free agents that came off the board 477 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: who you could have signed without giving up any young 478 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: talent in exchange at this stage of the off season. 479 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: This is kind of what they had to do the 480 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: remaining free agents on the market or her. They they're 481 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: really probably not as good any of them as Sulcer 482 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: is right now. I think they at this stage of 483 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: the off season, this is kind of what they had 484 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: to do to get somebody who was already in major 485 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: league camp and would have been ready to contribute from 486 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: opening day. That was important not to Yeah, instead of 487 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: holding out hope that a krusty veteran coming off of 488 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: his couch would be able to help in the near future, 489 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: they went with guys who were ready in major league 490 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: camp and getting ramped up for that. I just think 491 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: they may have missed the boat on properly managing this 492 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: whole situation if they had invested in just one relatively 493 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: hot leverage reliever with more of a resume than either 494 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: Sulcer or Scott and been able to hold on to 495 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more of this prospect depth than they're 496 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: actually able to so running through the departures real quick. 497 00:29:54,760 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: My favorite of the bunch, Antonio Vales, got screwed by 498 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: COVID simple as that he should have been a mid 499 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: round draft pick under normal circumstances in twenty twenty, but 500 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: only a five round draft that year out of Florida State. 501 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: He goes undrafted signs of the Marlins. One of the 502 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: best performing players bar Nune in the Marlins organization in 503 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, started with Beloit moved up to Pensacola, 504 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: only got better after he got promoted to Pensacola. He's 505 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: not that far away from the big league. So this 506 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: is the one guy that, maybe in the right scenario, 507 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: could have contributed later this year to the Marlins at 508 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: the major league level. He was set to begin this 509 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: season in the Double A pensacle of rotation, has great control, 510 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: has a great changeup. I think his fastball command is 511 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: really good as well. And I mean watching him Fitch, 512 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm a believer in him, like having a substantial major 513 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: league career, maybe not as a starter, but as something. 514 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: And he would have been up relatively soon. Twenty five 515 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: years old. He just had his birthday too. He's the 516 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: Miami Nate, so awkward. It's awkward timing for him, but 517 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: one that chose just how much he has grown, you know, 518 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: since going undrafted that he was able to raise his 519 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: stock enough to be part of this trade. Next up, 520 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: Kevin Guerrero. Much different type of player, only seventeen years 521 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: old at this moment. He's going to turn eighteen in 522 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. One of the bigger players that 523 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: Marlin signed in international free agency. I guess this was 524 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: just a year ago. In the class of twenty twenty 525 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,239 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one out of the Dominican Republic. He had 526 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: a nice year in the DSL, playing pretty much every 527 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: day as an outfielder for them. Very tall guy still 528 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: needs to fill out, hasn't tapped into that home run 529 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: power quite yet. Watching him there, there's a lot to 530 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: like about the swing in general, in the athleticism. He 531 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: has the potential to actually stick in center field with him. 532 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: I had Vellez a little bit higher on my prospect 533 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: rank rankings than Guerrero, just because Guerrero is so far 534 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: away from the big leagues. They did bring him stateside 535 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: this spring, so he is going to He'll be seeing 536 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: him in the Complex League, in the Florida Complex League 537 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: this season, where he'll be one of the younger players there. 538 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: If he feels out and like, there's the potential for 539 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: him to be a legit outfielder, like starting caliber outfielder, 540 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: of everything goes right, just so far away, like at 541 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: least three years from even thinking about, you know, calling 542 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: him up, just because of how young he is, how 543 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: inexperienced he is, and how raw he still is at 544 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: this stage of his career. I think the Marlins give 545 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: him a six hundred thousand dollars bonus, So that's equivalent 546 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: actually to this draft pick pretty much. It's kind of 547 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: hard to sometimes pair the international signings with the American signings, 548 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, putting them into content. This is kind of 549 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: funny though, how Guerrero and this competitive balance rounds be 550 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: draft pick are pretty similar assets. You could say, with 551 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: this draft pick, it looks like it's going to be 552 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: in the late sixties in the draft order. This upcoming July, 553 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: right after the second round of the main second round 554 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: of the draft. The Marlins get this as a revenue 555 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: sharing recipient because they're in a quote small market, they 556 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: get this extra draft pick, and these are the only 557 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: kind of draft picks that you can trade, the ones 558 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: that are in competitive balance rounds, And so I think 559 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: the slot value of this pick is higher than actually 560 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: Guerrero's signing bonus. But if you kind of translate for 561 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: the differences in the financial systems between international free agency 562 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: and the amateur draft, it's kind of a similar type 563 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: of player in terms of one that is far enough 564 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: from the top of the draft order that they'll be 565 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: able to get it. Also, so it does hurt the 566 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: Marlins and that it limits the financial flexibility that they 567 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: have in their own draft pool this upcoming year. For 568 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: a team like the Marlins that really pride itself and 569 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: how it does its amateur drafting the past few years, 570 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: this is a pretty significant loss. And if you want 571 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: to go by what Baseball Trade Values uses in their algorithm, 572 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: they believe that this draft pick is actually the biggest 573 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: loss for the Marlins here, the most valuable piece that 574 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: is moving changing hands in this entire trade, even more 575 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: so than either of the individual pitchers. Actually, they value 576 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: this draft pick at four million dollars in terms of 577 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: the type of player that they can get at that 578 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: draft spot this upcoming summer. So that's interesting, and finally 579 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: we have the player to be named later. With that, 580 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: I believe the Marlins are still going to be getting 581 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: a playered PTB NL from the Padres as well from 582 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: the Jorge Alfaro trade. They have one coming in and 583 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: they're going to be sending one out. We're operating under 584 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: the assumption that this is a really marginal type of player. 585 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: Hopefully it is. If we assume that it is, then 586 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: I do feel still relatively comfortable about this trade. Guerrero 587 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: is the one that has the biggest upside. He's the 588 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: one that could haunt them. I jokingly told somebody ten 589 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: years down the line, they could be haunted by Guerrero. 590 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: And I don't think that's an exaggeration because he is 591 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: still so far away from potentially being anything in the 592 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: big leagues. He'll still be in his prime ten years 593 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: from now if he is fortunate enough, you know, to 594 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: stay healthy and develop on a positive track. Wishing vialeis 595 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: the best, Wishing Guerrero the best. Credit to Marlins scouting 596 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 1: both amateur, yeah, amateur scouting on both sides to find 597 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: those guys. Especially Valez seems to have perked up his 598 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: value from where it was a couple of years ago, 599 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: and I think we could probably say the same with Guerrero. 600 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: The fact that they feel he's already ready to come 601 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: over to the US and spring and face a lot 602 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,959 Speaker 1: of older competition this spring. These are these guys were 603 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: on my personal prospect rankings kind of between twenty and 604 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: thirty ish, kind of in that range where this is 605 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: the kind of players that you should feel totally comfortable 606 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: moving if you are prioritizing the present. And lastly, the 607 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: players that got squeezed off the forty man roster to 608 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: accommodate Soulcer and Scott as I suspected it was going 609 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: to be two pitchers because the forty man roster was 610 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: kind of pitching heavy for the Marlins. Sean Gunther was 611 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: expected going to this sixty day il he hadn't appeared 612 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: in any Grave Fruit League spring training games. He has 613 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: some sort of arm issue, according to Christina de Nicola 614 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: of MLB dot Com, and surgery is an option for 615 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: whatever the particular issue is. Though Marlins don't seem to 616 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: be counting on getting anything from him this year, and 617 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: with all due respect, they didn't get anything from him 618 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: last year. Last year he put up an ERA around nine. 619 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: He just got hit around late in the season. It 620 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 1: was good on him to reach the big leagues after 621 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: being not really heralded much as a prospect at any point. 622 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: But now hopefully he can overcome this setback at some 623 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: point and become a contributor to most likely their bullpen 624 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 1: at some point. Twenty twenty three and beyond. Nick Knider 625 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: is the big eyebrow raising move here. Knier Is was 626 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: their twenty eighteen Minor League Pitcher of the Year for 627 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: the Marlins that he was already up to double a 628 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: and he was awesome that year. An interesting blend of 629 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: commands and a deep pitch mix. He really does have four, 630 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: if not five, legit pitches, and at various times in 631 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: his development you can point to both the change up 632 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: and the slider as being above average offerings. So a 633 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: guy that gets ahead in the count has two secondaries 634 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: that you're really like. This was at one time one 635 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 1: of the better pitching prospects in the entire organization. Quote 636 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: it just has not progressed well from there. In twenty nineteen, 637 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: he had this knee issue early in the year that 638 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: he grailed him for most of that year. It seemed 639 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: that like he had straightened things out in the Arizona 640 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: Fall League in twenty nineteen, but during his cracks at 641 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: the big leagues it hasn't really materialized. He didn't get 642 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: much of an opportunity in twenty twenty. He was one 643 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: of the many players that went down with COVID and 644 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: so barely got any endings in most of those were 645 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: in very low leverage as a reliever. Twenty twenty one, 646 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: he had a great opportunity, and he was honestly one 647 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: of the more disappointing players all in the twenty twenty 648 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: one Marlins. I thought that was going to be a 649 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,439 Speaker 1: nice opportunity for him to establish himself as a back 650 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: end starter at the very least, But for whatever reason, 651 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: his command just did not fully get there where it 652 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 1: used to be like that was one of his calling cards, 653 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: is getting a heading, counts and then making good decisions 654 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 1: from there, and he just couldn't get ahead and counts 655 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: for the Marlins in twenty twenty one. How many we 656 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: made like seven or eight starts, and for a couple 657 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: of them he was able to dance around traffic on 658 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: the bases. There was always traffic on the bases. So 659 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 1: the eer on its own, mylex semi encouraging at four 660 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: point five to four last year, but he was issuing 661 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: more walks than strikeouts. Just unfathomable for the type of 662 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: prospect that he was just a few years before. So 663 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: so many, so much of his own doing was so 664 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: much of his demise was his own doing, and I 665 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: should say, just not farewell at all, even when he 666 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: was down in triple A this past year. It was 667 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 1: it was kind of difficult to watch in spring training. 668 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: They answered this spring already saying that they were going 669 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: to shift him to a relief role. He was saying 670 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: all the right things about just being grateful being on 671 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: the roster. I thought, seemingly perfectly on track to make 672 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: the opening day roster in like a long man role 673 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: as one of the beneficiaries of the expanded roster, and 674 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see whether that would have been the 675 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: case had he actually had this trade not come together 676 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: and him not being you know, part of the consequences 677 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: of that, losing his forty man roster spot. He's in 678 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: DFA limbo now, so for the next seven days, Marlins 679 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: can either work out a trade or lose him via 680 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: waiver claim or so. The one thing for sure is 681 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: that he is not going to be another Monte Harrison 682 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: or another East hon Diez. He's not going to clear waivers. 683 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he's younger than either of them, just 684 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: twenty five years old. He still has two minor league 685 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 1: options left. Even if other teams aren't confident in him 686 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: being a contributor at the big league level right now, 687 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: they could just send him to the miners and take 688 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: as much time as they need to get him right 689 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: down there, or to make any suggestions they want to 690 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: make to his game. I'm certain that he's going to 691 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,959 Speaker 1: be on a different team when this week is up. 692 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: The question is whether they can actually work out of 693 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: trade and get something in return, get a non forty 694 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: man prospect or prospects in return, even include him in 695 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: part of a bigger trade. We'll see on that. I've 696 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: been proven wrong on that Neil multiple times. I was 697 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: reminded of that at this time a year ago, Harold Ramirez. 698 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: I thought they would get something in return for Harold Ramirez. No, 699 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,280 Speaker 1: he was just a waiverclaim Harlan Garcia the year before 700 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: when he ultimately went to the Giants. He was coming 701 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: off a great year in the Marlins bullpen. But other 702 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: teams they saw some of the underlying numbers with him 703 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: and didn't value him much. I do think they are 704 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: going to get something in return for Nighter, meaning that 705 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: multiple teams are going to put in a waiver claim 706 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: for him, allowing the Marlins to actually negotiate a trade 707 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 1: and send him to the highest Bidder has that deep 708 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: pitch mix, and he's still not that far removed from 709 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: being a nice prospect for them. So for somebody that 710 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 1: has a starting pitcher upside that has two minor league 711 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: options remaining that's still just twenty five years old. And 712 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: for what is worth for someone who has really good 713 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: makeup and has a great attitude and role in the 714 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: clubhouse that nice halo effect on other people. I think 715 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: there's real value there, and I can't understand why the 716 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: Marlins would dfa him at this particular time unless they 717 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: felt certain in getting something in return. There were other 718 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: arms on this roster that didn't need to stay on 719 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: this roster, guys like older pictures with lesser stuff, like 720 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: Daniel Costano, Paul Campbell, who just left a really bad 721 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: first impression with the Marlins last year. He's still on 722 00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: the forty men roster as well. They aren't super easy decisions, 723 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: but the timing of this Nighter moves makes me feel 724 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: pretty sure that they're going to get a trade done 725 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: with him in the next few days. Niger was one 726 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: of the very first prospects that they acquired under this 727 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: administration once this rebuilds got underway. Acquired him from the Mariners, 728 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: and finally they gave him a few opportunities and he 729 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: didn't capitalize on him, and they are seemingly willing to 730 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,479 Speaker 1: sell low on him rather than giving him one last 731 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: shot to potentially contribute out of the bullpen or as 732 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: an emergency spot starter. So it's an interesting call. I 733 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: don't totally disagree with it. Again, this is just contingent 734 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: on them getting something in return for Nighter, because I 735 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 1: think he still does have some interesting upside if he's 736 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: somehow able to get back to what he used to 737 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 1: be just a few years ago for the Marlins. I've 738 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: been eli Susman from Fish Stripes here on the official show, 739 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: Oh getting ready for an insane opening week here with 740 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: all our coverage. Be sure to follow along with all 741 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: our Marlin's coverage as we reach the dawn of this 742 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two regular season. Glad that we finally had 743 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: this sudden trade to react to, and I suspect not 744 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: the final significant move that we'll see this week leading 745 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 1: up to opening Day. We appreciate all the support from 746 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: you guys. Thank you Marlins Fans. As always, go Fish