Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to another episode of the Betting
Speaker 1: Pros NFL podcast. I'm your host, Dan Harris. With me,
Speaker 1: of course, is Matt Parol. You can find us on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Dan Harris, Hadian at Sports Talk Matt, Matt,
Speaker 1: how you doing.
Speaker 2: I am great. Week seven, let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Before we do, let's talk very briefly about
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Matt, what the count was last time,
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Speaker 3: It's like a real time message board, is the best
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Speaker 1: We'll be in there on Sundays talking about everything. Again,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to every game that's on the slate
Speaker 1: this weekend. But let's talk about last weekend very quickly,
Speaker 1: and how frustrated I am. I went. I made nine
Speaker 1: bats last week, Matt against the spread and went seven
Speaker 1: and two, and the two that I lost were two
Speaker 1: of the ones that found their way into the contest.
Speaker 1: Matt and I went three and two, as we you
Speaker 1: have done. Is it four straight weeks now, Matt?
Speaker 3: It feels yeah, it kind of feels like that. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't think we've had a losing week in a while,
Speaker 3: but we.
Speaker 1: Think we start. I think we went three and two,
Speaker 1: two and three, and then we've been three and two
Speaker 1: for the last four weeks. Yeah, think, which is not horrible.
Speaker 2: I mean no.
Speaker 3: But what's interesting about the way this contest and I
Speaker 3: wrote a little bit about it on you can see
Speaker 3: it on betting Pros. You can write you see the
Speaker 3: leaderboard I put it up on the book report for
Speaker 3: this week, is that they do it by percentages. It's
Speaker 3: not necessarily done by how many picks you have. Right So,
Speaker 3: like by my count, I think we're four games over
Speaker 3: five hundred.
Speaker 2: Does that sound like to you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are seventeen and thirteen.
Speaker 3: So like we're just we're like two picks out of
Speaker 3: the money. Yeah, so we're not bad right now. We're
Speaker 3: in a good place. And really, if we get on
Speaker 3: any type of heater, here we go four and one,
Speaker 3: five and oh for a couple of weeks, we're gonna
Speaker 3: do a good job of jumping over a bunch of people.
Speaker 3: So I like where we are. We're lurking, but I
Speaker 3: think we're we're in decent position right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're one hundred and eighty third out of six
Speaker 1: and eighty nine. So that's good. And again we really
Speaker 1: don't need to avoid it. I felt like last week
Speaker 1: felt like a missed opportunity, in part because we decided
Speaker 1: to switch at a game that we would have gotten right,
Speaker 1: which was the Dolphins laying eight and a half to
Speaker 1: the Jets for the Patriots who were laying was it
Speaker 1: nine and a half?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So that takes me to the rules for this week. Okay, yes,
Speaker 3: so here are the new rules just for this week.
Speaker 3: We're gonna try this, Okay. What we decide on this
Speaker 3: podcast is what we're playing. No changing other than major
Speaker 3: major rules like a quarterback.
Speaker 2: It's COVID or something.
Speaker 3: Correct, that's the only time we're going to change it.
Speaker 3: But other than that, I think this is what happens.
Speaker 3: You talk yourself out of wagers and talk yourself out
Speaker 3: of things, and then you wind up going, man, why
Speaker 3: did I do that?
Speaker 2: Why did I change off of it?
Speaker 3: Where you and I were on it on the podcast,
Speaker 3: and then we got off of it beforehand due to
Speaker 3: we are worried about Ryan Fitzpatrick and it's it's the Jets.
Speaker 2: So we should never have gotten worried about the Jets.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they did ben try and Fitzpatrick after
Speaker 1: this game, right, so we kind of had that right,
Speaker 1: not exactly.
Speaker 3: They didn't bench him for performance. Yeah, they benched him
Speaker 3: because they want to lose. They're mad and three.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's just very briefly recap the picks
Speaker 1: that we had. Again, we were on the right side
Speaker 1: of everything. One of the games we lost was a
Speaker 1: game really that we should have won. It was the
Speaker 1: Texans getting three and a half from the Titans. That
Speaker 1: was the right side. Okay, I don't care about how
Speaker 1: it wound up going, but that was a loss. The
Speaker 1: other one was the Patriots who lost out right, we
Speaker 1: just did not have that game correct. We loved the
Speaker 1: Steelers laying three and a half to the Browns. We
Speaker 1: loved the forty nine Ers getting three and a half
Speaker 1: from the Rams, and of course you know if it's
Speaker 1: a pick against the Bills that Matt absolutely loved the
Speaker 1: Chiefs laying three and a half to the Bills. So
Speaker 1: we got all those right. Wasn't a big sweat really
Speaker 1: for any of those. So let's pick it up here.
Speaker 1: As always, we're not going to do props because they
Speaker 1: don't come out right now. But Matt has the live
Speaker 1: stream on YouTube dot com slash Betting Pros. He always
Speaker 1: breaks everything down on Sunday mornings, so make sure you there.
Speaker 1: It is at eleven am. To twelve pm. All right,
Speaker 1: let's do what we like to do, which is you
Speaker 1: starting us off now? This is I will say this.
Speaker 1: Usually Matt texts me or messages me on Slack a
Speaker 1: few leans that he has just based on the lines.
Speaker 1: You did not do that this week. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that was intentional. Yes, it was, oh, okay, very good.
Speaker 2: So the reason is because I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to skew you at all, because because
Speaker 3: we're going to pick this, this is going to be
Speaker 3: our actual five selection, so I didn't want to give
Speaker 3: you any indication. It's like where I was going to
Speaker 3: get an actual, real reaction from you based on my
Speaker 3: picks and then we can really hash this out.
Speaker 2: So I guess it was intentional.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, then start us off, Matt. What's your
Speaker 1: what's your best bet for this week? What do you have?
Speaker 2: Now? I'm going to tell you this. I believe this
Speaker 2: game is.
Speaker 3: Going to be an absolute barn burner, and maybe calling
Speaker 3: it my favorite play might be a little bit high.
Speaker 3: It's the one play I like the most because I
Speaker 3: think the game is going to be the most exciting.
Speaker 3: I'm going to lay the one and a half with
Speaker 3: the Titans and have them over the Pittsburgh Steelers at home.
Speaker 3: And I think the injury to Bush is gigantic to
Speaker 3: the linebacking corps. I think Ryan Tannehill's numbers passing between
Speaker 3: ten yards and twenty yards, he's one of the best,
Speaker 3: if not the best, in the NFL right now. I
Speaker 3: know the AJ Brown news is not good that he
Speaker 3: was out of practice today, but I think he's gonna play.
Speaker 3: It sounds like it was just like a temporary thing
Speaker 3: for him. They're gonna run the ball. I know Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: gets after the quarterback, but I think when you can
Speaker 3: run the ball like Derrick Henry, their defense is good enough.
Speaker 3: I know Big Ben's been hot here, but this is
Speaker 3: a big game for the Titans at home. I know
Speaker 3: you just just said ugh, but I think this Titans
Speaker 3: team is gonna be able to put up. I think
Speaker 3: this is a Ryan Tannehill game. Ryan Tannehill beats the
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there are a couple of things. Number One,
Speaker 1: the line that we are looking at in the DK
Speaker 1: contest is the Steelers laying one and a half to
Speaker 1: the Titans.
Speaker 2: Right, yep, all right?
Speaker 1: The line the current consensus line, which you can find
Speaker 1: o where Benningbros. Dot Com is now the Titans laying
Speaker 1: one and a half to the Steelers. Now, realistically that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean all that much.
Speaker 3: Oh no, it does to me. Plus one and a
Speaker 3: half is a lot better than mine as one and
Speaker 3: a half.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It is, It's true, it is a better it is
Speaker 1: a better lie for sure. And now with that line,
Speaker 1: sixty one percent of experts are taking Pittsburgh. So the
Speaker 1: loss of Devin Bush is huge. Okay, it's a big
Speaker 1: loss to that defense.
Speaker 2: He's their quarterback.
Speaker 1: I get it, I understand, I understand. But you know
Speaker 1: what's also a big loss is the loss of Taylor
Speaker 1: Luan on that offensive line. I don't know. I you know,
Speaker 1: to me, Matt, and again, I watched them pretty closely.
Speaker 1: You know, they destroyed the Bills. That was fine. But
Speaker 1: last week, ma'am, they should have lost that game. They
Speaker 1: should have lost that game to a subpar Houston Texans team.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Titans are quite as good as
Speaker 1: they've shown, and maybe the Steelers aren't either. They haven't
Speaker 1: beaten that tough competition. But I don't know, man, I'll
Speaker 1: be honest when I was looking at the picks. I
Speaker 1: leaned a little bit. I don't love it, given that
Speaker 1: they're laying one and a half point, right, but I
Speaker 1: kind of like the Steelers, you.
Speaker 2: Mean, and we're not.
Speaker 3: Going dogs, all right, home dogs, man, This is the
Speaker 3: part of the season when you start looking at home dogs.
Speaker 2: Teams at home catching points matter.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll put that one to the side.
Speaker 1: I have I'm not I'm not. I at first when
Speaker 1: I first looked at it, I like the Steelers. As
Speaker 1: I've dug into it a little more, especially with the
Speaker 1: line moving, and I've sort of been like, oh boy,
Speaker 1: it has made me kind of try to dig in
Speaker 1: deeper into it. And again, the loss of Bush is
Speaker 1: pretty huge in that defensive right, he's kind of the quarterback.
Speaker 1: But it is something where it's not it's not one
Speaker 1: of my favorite plays. So let's put that one to
Speaker 1: the side. My favorite play, and I can't believe you
Speaker 1: didn't lead with this is the Bucks laying two and
Speaker 1: a half to the Raiders.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know they can't. You can't touch it.
Speaker 3: You just can't play. You can't touch it because you
Speaker 3: don't know what's going to happen. They all could be
Speaker 3: all cleared, all all them, the whole offensive line could play.
Speaker 3: I mean there are rumors in Vegas a time I
Speaker 3: was taping right now on Thursday. There is a time
Speaker 3: that everyone else but Trent Brown is testing negative on
Speaker 3: the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Two but Brown is not going to play right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they can.
Speaker 3: They can win that game even without Brown. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's the entire offensive line, I think, to be honest,
Speaker 3: I mean Abram is as big of a loss as
Speaker 3: Brown is. I mean, you need him in that to
Speaker 3: be that thumper as a safety in the back. Without him,
Speaker 3: they're a much different defense. So I mean, I just
Speaker 3: don't think you can touch this game either side.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 1: Here's the deal, man, I'll give them the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I'll give them the offensive line. I still because the
Speaker 1: consensus line has moved to minus four in light of
Speaker 1: all the offensive line issues. I still like the Bucks.
Speaker 2: You don't like the Raiders.
Speaker 3: Dave syrifp and I went over this game about two
Speaker 3: hours ago, we would be all over the Raiders if
Speaker 3: we knew the offensive line was playing. This is a
Speaker 3: bounce back spot in a big way. This is the
Speaker 3: super Bowl for John Gordon. This is the game on
Speaker 3: the schedule that when the schedule came out here in Vegas,
Speaker 3: the number one thing everybody said was, oh my Sunday
Speaker 3: Night football John Gordon against his former team that he
Speaker 3: took to the Super Bowl and won one a title with.
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: You have too much faith in Johnny oh Man.
Speaker 2: Look, this team's better than people think.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm telling you Waller and the Jacobs and Rugs
Speaker 3: when he's healthy, cars playing incredibly well.
Speaker 2: Isn't there pick yet? I mean one pick this year?
Speaker 2: I think it is. I mean, this defense has some questions.
Speaker 2: I'll give it to you.
Speaker 3: But on the road, this is a classic letdown spot.
Speaker 3: After beating Green Bay the way that they did, score
Speaker 3: thirty eight points, you go on the road on the
Speaker 3: West Coast. This is a classic spot where Brady plays poorly,
Speaker 3: the Bucks fall down. If I was gonna bet this,
Speaker 3: I would be all over the Raiders. But I won't
Speaker 3: touch this game, man, even once we know, even once
Speaker 3: we know, I won't touch it because of the fact
Speaker 3: that no one's practiced since Monday. But the Titans have
Speaker 3: showed practice can be overrated.
Speaker 1: It's very true that practice can be overrated, absolutely right,
Speaker 1: I just think that the Bucks are a I think
Speaker 1: their defense is really legitimate. I think you saw it
Speaker 1: last week against the Packers. That was the first time
Speaker 1: Rogers saw a really legitimate defense. And you know what happened.
Speaker 1: I think their defense I don't that harangers. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: get it. It wasn't home although you like the Packers
Speaker 1: in that game didn't talk about it.
Speaker 3: And there are up ten nothing and then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden two pick sixes, and that's when you throw
Speaker 3: two pick sixes. Well, and I don't really think the
Speaker 3: first pick six wasn't really it was on Rodgers. That
Speaker 3: was a ridiculous throw going backwards to cross his body.
Speaker 3: I mean that was a dumb throw. So yes, I
Speaker 3: mean it was on Rogers. That wasn't on the defense
Speaker 3: per se. To me, that was all on the on
Speaker 3: the on the on.
Speaker 1: The legit man. Their defense is legit even without the demand.
Speaker 2: I agree. I mean that on paper and and legitimately.
Speaker 3: I mean that they can stop the run, which is
Speaker 3: first and foremost, and they can get up field, they
Speaker 3: can get after the quarterback. I look, I don't hate this.
Speaker 3: I got a bet on the over nine wins on
Speaker 3: the Bucks. I mean, I so I just cannot that
Speaker 3: game is no.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is out, like the whole offensive line
Speaker 1: is out. Does that change your opinion?
Speaker 2: Probably? Yeah, I mean it's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying we have to pick it. I'm just wondering,
Speaker 1: like what.
Speaker 3: I just don't get. Here's here's what's happening. This is
Speaker 3: by the time this airs, I might be right on this.
Speaker 3: This game is not gonna get played.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna move to Monday.
Speaker 2: Potentially on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I think the move right now where we are, they
Speaker 1: have moved it to Sunday afternoon. They've swapped it out
Speaker 1: because they can't have no potential no game on Sunday night. No,
Speaker 1: I think they're going to do the whole thing where
Speaker 1: they go to Monday, because isn't it that like the
Speaker 1: don't They Raider? They can't get cleared until Sunday morning
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 3: So the five day they have the whole offensive line
Speaker 3: and abram Or in the high risk category in the NFL.
Speaker 3: And that's that new category now where you have a
Speaker 3: five day window where you can't be around anybody, and
Speaker 3: so they can be retested Sunday morning. This dates back
Speaker 3: to Monday. They can be around Sunday morning and then
Speaker 3: test negative and then potentially they could play on Monday
Speaker 3: or Tuesday. But I don't think on Sunday this game
Speaker 3: is getting played. Maybe gets played on Monday, but I
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, the Bucks have to travel, and
Speaker 3: so like when do they travel, Do they travel on Monday?
Speaker 3: They travel on Sunday. They're not going to come here
Speaker 3: unless they know for sure the game is gonna get played.
Speaker 1: True. I think that's fair. I think that's fair. All right,
Speaker 1: so we'll put that one out. You know, not a
Speaker 1: good sign that our first two or you know we're
Speaker 1: going back and forth.
Speaker 2: Is this is why I want to This makes for
Speaker 2: a better podcast. It does.
Speaker 1: And just to be clear, I'm telling you, fear not
Speaker 1: go ahead and bet on the bugs if you can
Speaker 1: get it into two and a half. Certainly it's off
Speaker 1: the book.
Speaker 3: You can't bet anywhere in America right now. It's off
Speaker 3: the forward completely. So we don't even know what the
Speaker 3: line's gonna be when if it gets put back up again.
Speaker 3: It could be seven by the time it gets put
Speaker 3: back up.
Speaker 1: We get no clues why I love it at two
Speaker 1: and a half, babe, All right, go ahead, you're up,
Speaker 1: what's your next back?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: So then the next couple of games I'm a little
Speaker 3: bit confused and a little bit concerned about.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'll just say it right now.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at bounce back spots, okay, and I think
Speaker 3: the Patriots are gonna be a team that are gonna
Speaker 3: be really angry. They practice for the first time on
Speaker 3: back to back days Wednesday and Thursday. That dates back
Speaker 3: to October first and seconds. The Patriots look so bad
Speaker 3: that I just can't see them getting beat by a
Speaker 3: forty nine ers team that's gonna be without without Mozart
Speaker 3: and all the injuries that they have suffered. They're coming
Speaker 3: across the country again.
Speaker 2: This is like the four the.
Speaker 3: Time for the forty nine ers coming across the country here,
Speaker 3: and I think this team for the Patriots, it's only
Speaker 3: it's under three points. Just basically win the football game.
Speaker 3: The line in the Circa contest is one and a half.
Speaker 3: I would have preferred it to be one and a
Speaker 3: half than two and a half, but I'm still comfortable
Speaker 3: under a field goal taking the Patriots to beat the
Speaker 3: forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna put that in the maybe category
Speaker 1: because I don't hate it. I don't hate it. It's
Speaker 1: a weird one, Matt. I'm trying to. I mean, do
Speaker 1: we throw out last week as just the you guys
Speaker 1: didn't practice and so they just weren't really ready to play.
Speaker 3: They had more to do with the fact that the
Speaker 3: offensive line was not even a shell of what it
Speaker 3: will be coming up on Sunday. They just had just
Speaker 3: a complete and everybody was out of position. I mean,
Speaker 3: Isaiah Win can't play left tackle, okay, the guy from
Speaker 3: first round pick out of Georgia, he was on skates.
Speaker 3: Every time he was on the left edge. They just
Speaker 3: blitzed chub at him and then just he couldn't stop anybody.
Speaker 3: So and then the lack of practice. You know, Matt
Speaker 3: Chatham was a ex patriot, won three championships Works for
Speaker 3: Ness and went through this whole progression of about twenty
Speaker 3: plays about what happened with Cam Newton. And when you
Speaker 3: don't practice, you don't know where your receivers are going
Speaker 3: to be. When you're pressured, your brain's not working, it's
Speaker 3: working too fast, and you don't see where you know
Speaker 3: your normal practice is. Okay, pressures coming from the left
Speaker 3: I have an outlet to the right. Newton played horribly.
Speaker 3: He just he flat out played awful and so yes,
Speaker 3: so today he beat up on himself saying, I was
Speaker 3: awful that that loss was on me. So I think
Speaker 3: this is going to be an energized and angry team.
Speaker 3: James White missed practice again today, so that's not great
Speaker 3: for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Do we know about that? Was it personal or was
Speaker 1: it an injury or what?
Speaker 2: We don't know yet.
Speaker 3: It's just he missed practice. And I'm just concerned about COVID.
Speaker 3: Whenever someone misses practiced that I'm like, uh, are they
Speaker 3: back with COVID problems? But he miss practices isn't good.
Speaker 3: But I think the Patriots have enough in that backfield.
Speaker 3: I think Harris will continue to develop for them. You
Speaker 3: know that they they're gonna get Sony Michelle back off
Speaker 3: the COVID list, which is good. They got Burkehead as well.
Speaker 3: I just think this is a team in the forty
Speaker 3: nine or is it? It's just asking a lot and
Speaker 3: Forran Garoppolo is not played great and the Patriots know
Speaker 3: the Garoppolo. I mean, come on now, you can't lose
Speaker 3: to the guy that you traded away.
Speaker 1: I do think that this is the right side of
Speaker 1: this game, and I'm actually a little surprised a sixty
Speaker 1: four percent of the experts on bettingpros dot com are
Speaker 1: also with Patriots. It's the sharper side, you know. It
Speaker 1: is something where the classic kind of Bilo el high
Speaker 1: Rams coming off forty nine Ers who we liked against
Speaker 1: the Rams coming off that big win, that Patriots being embarrassed.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know that they're gonna take away Kittle
Speaker 1: because that's you know, that's their thing without mostert, I
Speaker 1: don't know who's going out there, whether it's McKinnon, whether
Speaker 1: it's Jamichael Hasty or Jeff Wilson, it's not the same.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna have the song. So I do think
Speaker 1: that their defense is going to be able to be good.
Speaker 1: So I'll put that in the maybe and the lean
Speaker 1: towards yes category. So that's probably one that we're gonna
Speaker 1: get in. So I like So my next game should
Speaker 1: tell you all you need to know about how I
Speaker 1: feel about the slate, which is I don't love it.
Speaker 1: But my next favorite is the Seahawks laying three and
Speaker 1: a half points to the Cardinals. Now it's a home dog,
Speaker 1: so you've got to be like, no, this is not
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. Here's how I go.
Speaker 2: It's a home dog primetime now too.
Speaker 1: That's right, it is in primetime. Although that doesn't change
Speaker 1: I don't even did Arizona have fans.
Speaker 2: They cannot believe, but I think that they can have
Speaker 2: light it.
Speaker 1: Really, it doesn't matter. They can have fans, they can
Speaker 1: not have fans. I think that the car Look, we've
Speaker 1: talked about the Cardinals probably more than any other team
Speaker 1: on this because we've just bounced back and forth how
Speaker 1: we feel about them so many times. I don't know
Speaker 1: about you, Matt, I was not particularly impressed. I realized
Speaker 1: that they dominated the Cowboys. That was to me much
Speaker 1: more about the cowboys ineptitude than you know. Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: completed nine passes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean all of his yards were on two passes, right, So.
Speaker 1: You know he is going to run like crazy. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be great. But you've got a short week. You've
Speaker 1: got the Seahawks coming off a bye. I get that
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have been a bit better defensively of late,
Speaker 1: but still, you know, Russell Wilson, we always talk about it.
Speaker 1: You don't want to bet against Russell Wilson. I think
Speaker 1: they come out firing here. I think this is a
Speaker 1: letdown spot for the Cardinals. So for me, I'll take
Speaker 1: even though it's, you know, the hook with the hook,
Speaker 1: I still like the Seahawks laying three and a half.
Speaker 2: All right, So let'll give you some numbers here. Okay.
Speaker 3: So Seattle's four and one against the spread so far
Speaker 3: this year. The Cardinals are four and two against the spread.
Speaker 3: They've covered their last two by pretty big margins. They
Speaker 3: were seven point favorites against the Jets and they won
Speaker 3: the game by twenty. They were one point dogs to
Speaker 3: Dallas and they won by twenty eight. So they're playing
Speaker 3: they're trending in the right direction. But if you see
Speaker 3: who the Cardinals have played here. Okay, So the win
Speaker 3: over the forty nine ers was impressive, and that was
Speaker 3: like the first like ooh, but Washington, Detroit, Carolina, the Jets,
Speaker 3: and the Cowboys, all right, that stinks out loud. That
Speaker 3: is not exactly someone I would be literally going to
Speaker 3: war with saying that they're a good football team. On
Speaker 3: top of the fact that, look, I don't think this
Speaker 3: defense is nearly as good as they are on papernumber
Speaker 3: two right now. In points allowed per game, eighteen point
Speaker 3: seven points per game. Now, that's who they're playing, right
Speaker 3: They're given up five point two yards per game. The
Speaker 3: passing attack is where I think I'd be a little
Speaker 3: bit concerned here because, as we know, eight point three
Speaker 3: yards of pass completed by Seattle, that's second best in
Speaker 3: the league. You got six point one yards given up
Speaker 3: by Arizona. I just don't think the Cardinals defense is
Speaker 3: very good, and I'm not so sure that our offense
Speaker 3: is all that good. Nah, I say, yeah, play it.
Speaker 3: This is when this is on my list, Go ahead
Speaker 3: and ink on this one.
Speaker 1: Inc. It is in Seahawks playing three and a half.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I like it, it's in prime
Speaker 3: time because you get Russell Wilson in prime That's true.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair and ads. So yeah, this just again,
Speaker 1: this is you know, if I have to, it's sort
Speaker 1: of like the way you feel a little bit about Mahomes,
Speaker 1: Like backing Russell Wilson is just kind of a comforting feeling.
Speaker 1: But I also really don't mind going against the Cardinals
Speaker 1: right now. So who's your number three here?
Speaker 2: So my number three.
Speaker 3: I mean one was Titans, two was the Patriots, and
Speaker 3: then we get into kind of a little bit of
Speaker 3: a yuck situation. I think Cleveland against the Bengals. I
Speaker 3: believe that Cleveland beats bad teams. They don't beat good teams,
Speaker 3: and the Bengals are a bad football team. And I'm
Speaker 3: actually surprised the numbers this low at only three and
Speaker 3: a half points here, because I think Baker Mayfield's pretty angry,
Speaker 3: and he talked about being four and two and this
Speaker 3: is the worst. We feel like we're two and four,
Speaker 3: not four and two. And I just don't think the
Speaker 3: Bengals are very good, to be quite honest. And this
Speaker 3: is again a chance for the Browns to run up
Speaker 3: a score, beat up on an in state opponent. So
Speaker 3: I like Cleveland mines three and a half.
Speaker 1: So I'm on that side. I will say that, but
Speaker 1: I agree we're getting yuck. You know in this point,
Speaker 1: I am on that side. You know, the hook makes
Speaker 1: me a little nervous. Mayfield being banged up makes me
Speaker 1: a little nervous. You heard now, Jarvis Landry apparently is
Speaker 1: dealing with whatever he's got his rib injury in addition
Speaker 1: to the hip injury makes me a little nervous, but
Speaker 1: they've got to be so embarrassed. Ye at this point, right, you.
Speaker 2: Can get my trends though.
Speaker 3: I look for teams coming back off embarrassing performances, but
Speaker 3: on all of them except for the Titans, like all
Speaker 3: my pigs right now, are teams in bounce back spots,
Speaker 3: and I just think this is another one with Cleveland.
Speaker 3: They're getting blown up by thirty one points to the
Speaker 3: Steelers that I mean again, they get to take out
Speaker 3: their frustrations on a team that stinks.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't love divisional games generally speaking, but I am
Speaker 1: on the brown side on this one. That's a definite.
Speaker 1: Maybe that doesn't make sense, but so that's in the
Speaker 1: maybe category right now. I'm not against it. I'm not
Speaker 1: against it. We're on the same side of it, least
Speaker 1: we could say that. And we don't know about Joe Mixon,
Speaker 1: by the way, he may be out for this game.
Speaker 1: He hasn't practiced yet this week. He's got some sort
Speaker 1: of foot injury. There are no details on it, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see it as a bounce back spot.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: The injuries worry me a little bit on their offense,
Speaker 1: but I do think again. You could probably ride Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt all day every day and you'll be probably fine
Speaker 1: this one. So we'll put it in the maybe. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to my next one. Boy, Okay,
Speaker 1: my next favorite pick is disgusting. But Panthers getting seven
Speaker 1: and a half points from the Saints. Now it's in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. That is scary. The Saints are off of bye.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. But we talked about Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: where you wouldn't let me pick against him. You know,
Speaker 1: half the time Teddy does cover as an underdog. He's
Speaker 1: Teddy covers a little bit. You're getting more than the
Speaker 1: touchdown here. I do not expect Michael Thomas to play.
Speaker 2: That's the key.
Speaker 1: I'm I could be wrong, but I do not expect
Speaker 1: him to play. There are multiple things happening here with Thomas.
Speaker 1: Not only does he have this hamstring injury, but there
Speaker 1: is this weird kind of bad blood brewing.
Speaker 2: Ankle injury too. He's got both.
Speaker 1: He's coming from the angle injury. It looked like he
Speaker 1: was probably ready to be over the ankle injury, and
Speaker 1: now he's heard his hamstring as well. This does not
Speaker 1: strike me as a game that he's gonna plan. I
Speaker 1: think the Panthers are. The big thing is the Saints
Speaker 1: defense is not quite as dominant as we expect it
Speaker 1: to be now They've dealt with injuries, Marshawn Latimore hasn't
Speaker 1: played that well. I do think that the Panthers are
Speaker 1: going to be able to keep it close. It strikes
Speaker 1: me as a game I think the Saints will win
Speaker 1: with or without Thomas, but I do think that the
Speaker 1: Panthers are going to be able to put up points here.
Speaker 1: Again without the fans, New Orleans is not the same,
Speaker 1: and I do think they're gonna be able to keep
Speaker 1: it at least within a touchdown. So when I'm getting
Speaker 1: that hook over a touchdown, I'm willing to take the
Speaker 1: Panthers to cover here.
Speaker 3: If Thomas doesn't play, this can be in a maybe
Speaker 3: category for me, So I'm willing to listen to this
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 2: A couple of reasons.
Speaker 3: Carolina is averaging seven point eight yards per pass with
Speaker 3: Joe Brady's offense six point nine yards per pass given
Speaker 3: up by New Orleans, So you're gonna throw in this defense.
Speaker 3: You can't run in these guys three point six yards
Speaker 3: per for rush that's fourth best in the NFL right now.
Speaker 3: But the Carolina Panthers don't really run right now. Without
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffery. They're not running the ball a whole heck
Speaker 3: of a lot anyway, So they're gonna throw. This is
Speaker 3: gonna be a high scoring game, kind of a back
Speaker 3: and forth game. And you know, but one thing that's
Speaker 3: sort of surprising a little bit with New Orleans is
Speaker 3: that in the beginning of the year, you thought they
Speaker 3: were gonna be able to just put up numbers on anybody.
Speaker 3: That really hasn't happened. They're two and four against the
Speaker 3: number so far, all right, so they beat Tampa and
Speaker 3: covered in week one, but since then they're one in
Speaker 3: three against the number, and they lost to Vegas, they
Speaker 3: lost to Green Bay, and then they didn't cover last
Speaker 3: week against the Chargers here, So I am I'm willing
Speaker 3: to listen to this and if we need this, if
Speaker 3: we don't come up with five that we love, I'm
Speaker 3: willing to go with this because of the seven and
Speaker 3: a half and a Thomas injury on top of that.
Speaker 1: So what if we know that Thomas is gonna play,
Speaker 1: is it office?
Speaker 3: If Thomas plays, I'm scared of it only because he
Speaker 3: changes everything they do.
Speaker 1: He does. But if even if he plays, and again
Speaker 1: right now it's just Thursday, just reading the t I
Speaker 1: don't expect him to play. But even if he does,
Speaker 1: there's no way he's gonna be one hundred percent. There's
Speaker 1: no way he's gonna be out there for every snap.
Speaker 2: And hamstrings are so tricky.
Speaker 1: Too, exactly. Any soft tissue injury, especially for receiver is tough.
Speaker 1: By the way, I will point out the last two
Speaker 1: games that we have talked about, the Browns laying three
Speaker 1: and a half to the Bengals and the Panthers getting
Speaker 1: seven and a half from the Saints. Our experts at Penningbros.
Speaker 1: Dot Com are exactly fifty to fifty on it. Wow,
Speaker 1: exactly fifty to fifty. So again that doesn't you know,
Speaker 1: Matt and I make our own decisions. We're part of
Speaker 1: the people who put in the picks into this. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they're close. But yeah, I all right, So that's a
Speaker 1: game that I like.
Speaker 2: But I guess you know what, you can take it
Speaker 2: because it's on my list.
Speaker 3: It's further down than I thought, but I've got Carolina
Speaker 3: plus seven and a half, so you can put that
Speaker 3: in there as a yes.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's keep talking through. But I think these
Speaker 1: last two are both two that can definitely you know,
Speaker 1: are are under consideration. So let's go to your next one,
Speaker 1: because I'm starting to run out of games that I
Speaker 1: am like, yeah, all right, I feel this one, but
Speaker 1: go ahead, okay.
Speaker 3: So I want to know all about the Jets here, yep,
Speaker 3: tell me how you feel about your Jets.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like if Sam Darnold does not play,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like he is going to play, right,
Speaker 1: but if he didn't play this I was I wasn't
Speaker 1: even gonna bring this up because it's the Bill, and
Speaker 1: I know you hate the Bills, but I would. I
Speaker 1: would happily, even though the spread has gone down. I'd
Speaker 1: happily take the Bills laying really half against Flaca.
Speaker 2: Really no no, with Donald playing.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no no, that is with Flacca, with
Speaker 1: Flacco playing, I would happily take the thirteen and a
Speaker 1: half with Donald playing. It's kind of been a game
Speaker 1: where I'm not gonna let you talk me into taking
Speaker 1: the Jets, but I would.
Speaker 3: I would because I was like, it's on my list
Speaker 3: of Jets play thirteen and a half.
Speaker 1: I figure it's probably the right side.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's probably the right side.
Speaker 1: Although I will say that Jameson Crowder downgraded on Thursday too,
Speaker 1: did not practice. If Jameson Crowder is out, I don't
Speaker 1: even know what to say at this point. I don't
Speaker 1: know who they're going to. I mean, you know, he's
Speaker 1: got such a high target chair in a normal week,
Speaker 1: even with Donald I I'll probably I'll stay away. But
Speaker 1: I just, Matt, what is there about the Jets that
Speaker 1: could ever make you feel like this is a team
Speaker 1: I don't care about the point spread that I'm willing
Speaker 1: to back under any circumstance.
Speaker 2: It's the NFL. They pay their players too.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we know the bills of course looked terrible.
Speaker 1: You've been enjoying it. They haven't looked good for two games.
Speaker 1: But don't you think that this is a game where
Speaker 1: they take out all their frustrations. They are much superior team,
Speaker 1: whatever you think about them, to the Jets. Don't you
Speaker 1: think this is a game where they just take out
Speaker 1: their frustration. Yeah?
Speaker 3: Maybe, but then they pull everybody in the third quarter.
Speaker 3: In the fourth quarter of the Jets cover I mean
Speaker 3: fourteen points.
Speaker 1: Back the Jets to be able to put up a
Speaker 1: couple of.
Speaker 3: Points surest against you know, third string dudes. I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean, fourteen points in the NFL is ridiculous. It
Speaker 3: is a stupid number. That's like next week the Jets
Speaker 3: are catching twenty one from the Chiefs in points spread.
Speaker 3: Since nineteen eighty eight, when they've been twenty points or more,
Speaker 3: there's been six of them. They're one in five against
Speaker 3: the spread.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't have I mean, no matter how bad
Speaker 3: a team is, you just get garbage back door covers
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 2: It's just like you're gonna fall into one.
Speaker 1: I think we maybe at the point where the Jets
Speaker 1: are able to break all models of efficiency. They're basically
Speaker 1: taking and they're terrible. I so, look, assuming Donald plays,
Speaker 1: which I am assuming right now because things are trending up,
Speaker 1: I think that the Jets are probably, you know, certainly
Speaker 1: the value lays with the Jets getting thirteen and a half,
Speaker 1: you've already seen the consensus line drop. It's already minus
Speaker 1: twelve at one point and dropped to miss eleven. Then
Speaker 1: I think the crowdter injury maybe made things a little nervous.
Speaker 1: But either way, no way. I will not. I will
Speaker 1: not back the Jets in this contest, in this game.
Speaker 1: So that's a note for me. So I'm staying away
Speaker 1: from it. If anything, if you were like Dan, I'm
Speaker 1: willing to jump on the bills here, I'm finally back
Speaker 1: on track to be like yeah, fired up, but no,
Speaker 1: even with Sam Darnold, I'm out there, all right. I've
Speaker 1: got one game, Matt the left where I like, you know,
Speaker 1: I have a couple of okay, Leans, I guess, but
Speaker 1: there's another one where I might be willing to take it.
Speaker 1: If you liked it, I'm actually just injur I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna throw it to you. How do you feel about
Speaker 1: Green Bay laying three and a half points to the
Speaker 1: Texans in Houston?
Speaker 2: I'm on the other side, you're.
Speaker 1: On You like the Texans?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I like Texans at home. I think there's
Speaker 3: I know there's a bounce back spot coming potentially, but
Speaker 3: in October, if you look at the numbers for Deshaun
Speaker 3: Watson as an underdog even I mean sorry, at home
Speaker 3: in October, Deshaun Watson's played very well at home. I
Speaker 3: don't like the Texans like you like you clearly no.
Speaker 3: I mean I can't stand them personally, but if I
Speaker 3: had to bet this game, I would take the hook
Speaker 3: and take the three and a half. Okay, home dog,
Speaker 3: home dogs are have my attention here in October.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. I mean I think that the
Speaker 1: Texans are going to be able to put up points.
Speaker 1: I think the Packers are going to be able to
Speaker 1: put up a lot of points. I think you're going
Speaker 1: to see them have a major bounce back game offensively
Speaker 1: given what they've been able to do to subpar defenses
Speaker 1: in the past. So I think there's a big bounce
Speaker 1: back spot for the Packers. I'm on them. I don't
Speaker 1: love it with the hook again.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean yeah, I mean I think if we
Speaker 3: got to three, I might like it better. But it's
Speaker 3: interesting because course, I mean, Houston is one in five
Speaker 3: against the spread right now and the green Bay Packers
Speaker 3: are four and one, So, I mean green Bay has
Speaker 3: done a pretty good job here out of the gate,
Speaker 3: even though it's a home dog situation. I mean it's
Speaker 3: you know, the only time that the Texans covered was
Speaker 3: against Jacksonville when they covered by sixteen. Everything else they
Speaker 3: have lost to win.
Speaker 1: And remember that game against Jacksonville, they shouldn't have covered,
Speaker 1: like if they had a kicker, right, if Jacksonville had, well.
Speaker 3: I teased did they would have covered anyone because the
Speaker 3: line was six and a half, but I teased it
Speaker 3: to eleven and a half.
Speaker 2: So my teaser what hit would have hit? Right, But
Speaker 2: they still.
Speaker 3: Would have covered even with the two field goals for Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: But it would have changed Jacksonville's approach as to how
Speaker 3: they were trying to score. But so, I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't know, Okay, maybe I I might listen. I mean,
Speaker 3: if we need it. Fading the Texans, I don't mind. Okay,
Speaker 3: I don't mind putting as you think.
Speaker 1: I do think that they they do look better since
Speaker 1: firing Bill Brown. I mean, I think you've seen a
Speaker 1: couple things, and again, their schedule lightened up, you know, basically,
Speaker 1: but this.
Speaker 2: Is a tough game though. I think Green Bay I
Speaker 2: mean yeah, I mean they were embarrassed.
Speaker 1: They're coming off a game where they're embarrassed. Their secondary
Speaker 1: is still pretty good. The Texans don't really have the
Speaker 1: type of run game that can exploit what the Packers
Speaker 1: look like.
Speaker 3: If it's my narrative right in about spots, So I
Speaker 3: mean to go back with Green Bay. I got burned
Speaker 3: last week, but I think it's a bounce back spot
Speaker 3: for sure against a pretty poor defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just kind of how I feel. I think
Speaker 1: this is a spot where they're gonna be able to
Speaker 1: put up a ton of points. There's absolutely a possibility
Speaker 1: of a backdoor cover here. But I think the Packers
Speaker 1: are going to win this game, and I think that
Speaker 1: you know, it's going to be something where it would
Speaker 1: have to probably. I feel like the only way the
Speaker 1: Texans are going to do it if it's like a
Speaker 1: last minute kind of touchdown to get within three or
Speaker 1: something like that. So for me, I feel like the
Speaker 1: Packers are the right side of this, but I'm not
Speaker 1: married to it by any means. I will say that
Speaker 1: eighty one percent of the experts it's the most heavily
Speaker 1: one sided game with a three and a half point spread,
Speaker 1: are on the Packers. Yeah, and again that that didn't
Speaker 1: factor in. I only look at this right before we
Speaker 1: start recording, so I could have it up and see,
Speaker 1: you know, whether or not it does. But I do
Speaker 1: think the Packers are the right side here.
Speaker 3: So room Bays giving up seven point two yards per
Speaker 3: pass play right, Yeah, oh I get it.
Speaker 2: Gosh, that's time. But so was Houston. Houston is giving
Speaker 2: a same point two as well.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, right exactly. I just I have less
Speaker 1: faith in Houston. And again, I think it was good
Speaker 1: for the Packers, as as Rogers said, to get their
Speaker 1: butt kicked a little bit and kind of snap them
Speaker 1: back into reality. You are not this dominant team that's
Speaker 1: going to roll over everybody, but you can roll over
Speaker 1: the Texans.
Speaker 2: I don't think you may have talked into this. I
Speaker 2: mean I think I may I may well agree with that.
Speaker 1: We'll put in the maybe maybe what else you got mad?
Speaker 1: Because I'm I'm I've got like slight leams.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, cause I hate everything else.
Speaker 1: So no, I hate everything else too, So why let's
Speaker 1: just talk about the game.
Speaker 3: Let's I hate to hate the rest of this card
Speaker 3: because there's Dallas, Washington, Detroit, Atlanta, you kid, well.
Speaker 1: Let's talk. Let's talk about what the spreads are. And
Speaker 1: I'm not giving you a side. I'm just laying out
Speaker 1: The favorites start and I'll be like, I'm on the
Speaker 1: other side. There is no side. I'm like the Lions
Speaker 1: where okay, the Falcons laying two and a half points
Speaker 1: to the Lions in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I mean, how do you trust Atlanta to do anything?
Speaker 3: How do you I mean they're at home to below
Speaker 3: a field goal. Matt Ryan looks completely washed up. I mean,
Speaker 3: you want to go with Atlanta here? It feels like
Speaker 3: Atlanta's the right side to go on with this. But
Speaker 3: Atlanta right now is two and four against the spread.
Speaker 3: Detroit's two and three against the spread. They did cover
Speaker 3: against Jacksonville on the road last week, but it's back
Speaker 3: to back road games. Thankfully, they're back in a dome
Speaker 3: that helps the Lions.
Speaker 1: No point, that's right, that's right. I think if I
Speaker 1: was forced to, I mean, you can't, like, you can't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable backing either one of these teams no matter what.
Speaker 1: Like there's no way you want to back Matt Patricia,
Speaker 1: there's no way you want to back the Falcons. I
Speaker 1: guess I might go with the Lions. I mean, they
Speaker 1: did change things up a little bit. They got swift,
Speaker 1: more involved, they blitzed a little more last week. Things
Speaker 1: like that are good. But still no, so that's just
Speaker 1: stay away, So we're not going to go there. I
Speaker 1: do lean the lines. If I had to go one way.
Speaker 1: Washington in the contest is laying half a point to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and in our consensus lines, it's now the
Speaker 1: Cowboys laying one to Washington. So any feeling on that one.
Speaker 2: I would take the Cowboys miss one.
Speaker 1: Don't think, well, I'm certainly staying away from this game.
Speaker 1: I'm certainly staying away.
Speaker 2: So here, here's how we see this.
Speaker 3: So if Chase Young decides to destroy Andy Dalton for
Speaker 3: four quarters, then they're gonna have a real tough time
Speaker 3: of it. If Andy Dalton actually can hit somebody in
Speaker 3: stride and actually hit an open receiver, okay, maybe they
Speaker 3: can play. Because the Washington defense is not very good
Speaker 3: outside of their defensive front.
Speaker 2: So that's my concern. Zeke's not gonna run the ball.
Speaker 3: They're gonna They're gonna do a you know, a great
Speaker 3: job of stocking stop An Elliott, So he's not. I mean,
Speaker 3: I like, I look at Elliott's rushing props this this week,
Speaker 3: this week, saying under for him, right, But I don't
Speaker 3: know what to make of the Dallas Cowboys offense as
Speaker 3: a whole, given the secondary and then on the other side,
Speaker 3: I mean, my goodness, gracious, want a mess that a
Speaker 3: Washington team is. I mean, although they did play hard
Speaker 3: against the Giants, I mean.
Speaker 1: They did so if I if I had to choose,
Speaker 1: I would go Washington. But I'm not. I'm not putting
Speaker 1: as as kind of iffy as we feel about these
Speaker 1: other games that we're talking about. I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: roll with Washington in the game. I just I do
Speaker 1: think that their injuries to their offensive line for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: that Dalton is not going to have the time to
Speaker 1: find his receivers. And I agree that Zeke is not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get too much done on the ground.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of dump offs to Zeke
Speaker 1: like there was in this past game. I just don't
Speaker 1: know if the Washington offense has enough firepower to put
Speaker 1: up the points to put the game out of reach
Speaker 1: to the extent where the Cowboys won't be able to
Speaker 1: at least keep it close and then pull it out
Speaker 1: at the end. So I don't like either side of it.
Speaker 1: If I did have a side, it would have to
Speaker 1: be Washington. But it's not saying much Chiefs slaying nine
Speaker 1: and a half to the Broncos in Denver.
Speaker 3: See if it wasn't a divisional game. If this was seven,
Speaker 3: I would take the Chiefs in two seconds. Yep, it's
Speaker 3: nine and a half in it's a divisional game, and
Speaker 3: I just what do you think, realistically, what do you
Speaker 3: think Le'Veon Bell is going to do in that offense?
Speaker 1: First of all, do we know that Bell is active
Speaker 1: in this game?
Speaker 2: Because not Yeah, but he can play. He's allowed to play.
Speaker 1: He's allowed to play.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I did see something like I think it was yesterday
Speaker 1: that said like Bell may not be active for this game.
Speaker 1: I don't. I look, I'm sure was disinterested when he
Speaker 1: played because the was terrible. I am confident that the
Speaker 1: team had absolutely no idea how to use him this year.
Speaker 1: I think he'll probably be rejuvenated to start, but I
Speaker 1: don't think he has that much left in the tank
Speaker 1: because he just I mean I just watching him run.
Speaker 1: Unless he literally was like I'm just not going to
Speaker 1: give a hundred percent after at all, which is possible.
Speaker 1: He just looked slow, like there were there were yards
Speaker 1: left out there when he could have gained a lot more.
Speaker 1: And again it might have just been like who cares.
Speaker 1: This team is a train wreck. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: risk myself for this, but I think he'll add something
Speaker 1: to them because I think he's better than Daryl Williams.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that he is a game chander
Speaker 1: in any way. And Clyde Edwards Hilaire looked great. I mean,
Speaker 1: he looked great last week. He's a talented running back.
Speaker 1: So does he add a little bit, Yeah, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't move the needle much for me.
Speaker 3: I would agree, And so that's why nine and a
Speaker 3: half points is. If I had to take it, I
Speaker 3: would take Denver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Denver is probably the right side, but
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it like I just I mean,
Speaker 1: you saw it with Drew Locke. Good goodness, gracious, you
Speaker 1: need everything possible to lose that game?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You great for three quarters. Yeah, he did everything he
Speaker 3: was supposed to do. And then he got pushed and pressured,
Speaker 3: and then they got to crunch time. And then what
Speaker 3: did Pat Shermer decide to do by asking him to
Speaker 3: throw a ball at all, let alone just call a
Speaker 3: pass play period was ridiculous. And then him the photoball
Speaker 3: deep and allow the Patriots to intercept that football and nearly,
Speaker 3: I mean, they should have lost the game. Nineteen eighteen
Speaker 3: if that had happened, what's this line?
Speaker 2: Really? If they lost to the Patriots, what's this right?
Speaker 1: So you're you're right, yeah, I in Denver makes me
Speaker 1: a little nervous given that it's the divisional game. So
Speaker 1: I agree, we're we're kind of staying.
Speaker 2: Oh they hate the Chiefs there, man, that that's a
Speaker 2: circle game for them. They just threw all over it.
Speaker 1: All right, So Chargers laying seven and a half points
Speaker 1: to the Jaguars in lost at No wait.
Speaker 2: Is it in in La okay? Oh no, no, no, sorry
Speaker 2: this hostage. No, no, it's not. It's in cause in Jacksonville, right,
Speaker 2: because the Rams are home against the Bears.
Speaker 1: Right, the Rams are That's why I actually had it.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's why I yeah, no, it's that.
Speaker 1: They're both playing in Los Angeles, all right. Anyway, Chargers
Speaker 1: like seven and a half points to the Jaguars in
Speaker 1: La If.
Speaker 3: I had to take it to be the Chargers, but
Speaker 3: I don't trust the Chargers right now with all their injuries,
Speaker 3: no skin.
Speaker 1: Nor do I no move on Rams laying Oh well
Speaker 1: this is the unless you're taking the Bears I know
Speaker 1: this is a paralta. The Rams laying five and a
Speaker 1: half points to the Bears.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the contest, if I had to take it,
Speaker 3: I would I would bet the Bears. I think the
Speaker 3: Bears might win the game out right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, it's funny because I was talking to
Speaker 1: some of our guys of fans pros to be fair,
Speaker 1: they want you know, they both are Bears fans. One
Speaker 1: of them is a more optimistic Bears fan than the other.
Speaker 1: But he was saying that he thought the Bears were
Speaker 1: gonna win and I and he might take them out right.
Speaker 2: I don't lie.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not taking either side of this game.
Speaker 1: I you know, like I've been like the foremost Bears
Speaker 1: backer of this hole right, Like, yeah, we could go.
Speaker 1: You're like, why are you trusting the Bears. We're not
Speaker 1: trusting the Bears. I'm like, no, that's fine, but this game, no,
Speaker 1: definitely not. I'm not going there. So, I mean, we
Speaker 1: have our five Matt, we don't love them. We've got
Speaker 1: the Pats lank two and a half to the Niners,
Speaker 1: which we're good with, yep. The Seahawks laying three and
Speaker 1: a half to the Cardinals, which we're both really good with.
Speaker 1: Ye Then we start getting into games that we're like, okay, maybe,
Speaker 1: which are the Browns laying three and a half to
Speaker 1: the Bengals? Done, I'm good, Okay, you're good with that.
Speaker 1: The Panthers getting seven and a half from the Saints,
Speaker 1: I'm good, okay. And really a game that you were
Speaker 1: on the other side of when we first started talking
Speaker 1: about it, the Packers laying three and a half to
Speaker 1: the Texas.
Speaker 3: So, Packers, you're more confident in the Packers covering on
Speaker 3: the road than you are the Titans getting points at home.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, because that's your number one game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna let you make that call.
Speaker 1: Yes, No, I'm making the call though. Yeah, now I'm.
Speaker 2: Making that call. I'm good, Packers, Okay, I'm good, man.
Speaker 1: This is gross okay. So again, I'll just recap that
Speaker 1: Pat's laying two and a half to the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: Seahawks laying three and a half to the Cardinals, Panthers
Speaker 1: getting seven and a half from the Saints, Browns laying
Speaker 1: three and a half to the Bengals, and the Packers
Speaker 1: lanth three and a half to Texans. That's on me,
Speaker 1: we go South, that's on me, all right.
Speaker 3: Road favorites we're going with road favorites in the week Saday.
Speaker 1: Basically exactly what you said you didn't want to do.
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm in for home dogs this week.
Speaker 3: But it's a great I'll bet them you and we
Speaker 3: can pick them. I'm going it on both sides.
Speaker 1: All Right. I feel terrible about all this, but it's
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