Speaker 1: Up next Out Loud with Joanno called well, part of
Speaker 1: the beginning with school Welcome back to how Allow what
Speaker 1: Gianno called Well? Here's part two of my interview with
Speaker 1: Dr Bill Winston, my pastor and mentor and also the
Speaker 1: founder of Living Where Christian Center, a nondenomination of Christian
Speaker 1: Church just outside of Chicago. Let's go. I want people
Speaker 1: to understand that how practical this is, because oftentimes when
Speaker 1: we talk about faith, people think of it as kind
Speaker 1: of like, oh, spooky and ghosts and has happened, But
Speaker 1: there's a practical measure to it. I remember you talking
Speaker 1: about how you can plan a seed and God will
Speaker 1: bless you with the promotion on your job. Never thought
Speaker 1: about them how it can happen anyway. See, people have
Speaker 1: separated God from work. They they have they have taken
Speaker 1: and said, well, I go to Sunday, go to church
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and the rest of the week I leave
Speaker 1: God in church. I'm out of here working. And that's
Speaker 1: not the Hebrew concept. The concept is is that wherever
Speaker 1: you are, He's with you seven days a week, and
Speaker 1: the principles that He's given you are to be used
Speaker 1: in every aspect or every sphere of influence. Whether you're
Speaker 1: a football player, whether it doesn't make any difference. Faith
Speaker 1: is a universal concept and it's designed to give you
Speaker 1: an advantage or have you to do the impossible, or
Speaker 1: had you to believe the unbelievable when it's time, and
Speaker 1: faith can do that. And just to finish up this story,
Speaker 1: next thing I know, I come home. I said, well, sweetheart,
Speaker 1: that sounds like some good soup cooking. She said, it's
Speaker 1: not ours. I said, whose is it? She said, well,
Speaker 1: it's it's a friend down the street. They family fellow
Speaker 1: on some hard times. Man, I wanted that soup so bad.
Speaker 1: So that was a sacrifice seed. We may not have
Speaker 1: had much money, but we had something as a seed.
Speaker 1: And God does nothing without a seed, nothing apart from faith,
Speaker 1: and nothing without love, those three things. And so what
Speaker 1: happened she took it down there? I guess within two
Speaker 1: three days the phone rang. He said, I'm a person
Speaker 1: working at this new employment company. I ran across your
Speaker 1: wife's application. Is she around? I said yeah, and she
Speaker 1: said put her on the phone. He put on the phone.
Speaker 1: She said, yep, yep, yep. Well he said he had
Speaker 1: something for now, understand what we had done. We had
Speaker 1: designed her job. She wanted it ten minutes from the house.
Speaker 1: She wanted it with this kind of office in computers.
Speaker 1: She wanted it with a good manager boss. She wanted
Speaker 1: it with this much money, and she wanted an automobile
Speaker 1: with it. All of those on a card. We have
Speaker 1: that card today. We took that card and believed by
Speaker 1: faith that God that heaven in her would meet the
Speaker 1: terms on that card. And watch this. She came back
Speaker 1: from the interview. I said, how did we do? She said,
Speaker 1: get the card? I said, ten minutes from the house.
Speaker 1: She said just about ten minutes. I said, okay, um,
Speaker 1: how about the office? She said, nice office. I said,
Speaker 1: how about the money? She said the money she gave
Speaker 1: me five thousand dollars more than we had on the card.
Speaker 1: I said, that was my prayer. She I said, well,
Speaker 1: how about the car? She said, they told me to
Speaker 1: go pick up the new Buick. No notice, you are
Speaker 1: never designed to live in the world you didn't create.
Speaker 1: You can create your own world. Now. I didn't say
Speaker 1: the world. I said your own world, and you're designed
Speaker 1: to do that. That's a production capability that you have.
Speaker 1: People are not poor because they don't have enough money,
Speaker 1: or don't have a job that pays much. They're poor
Speaker 1: because of the absence of self production. Never forget that.
Speaker 1: And so what happened every person is can be a producer.
Speaker 1: When they're not, they become migrant. They have to go
Speaker 1: somewhere else, either go out in the next in suburb
Speaker 1: to get to the grocer's oil, and they have to
Speaker 1: go from another country across into this country trying to
Speaker 1: get because of self productive they haven't been taught that
Speaker 1: they can produce. And when they're not taught that, the
Speaker 1: next thing you do, they become only consumers. And I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, wherever you are, God can make you a producer.
Speaker 1: You can create your own world by the word of God.
Speaker 1: So you know what's interesting to me is you left
Speaker 1: the town that you were at because you believe God
Speaker 1: as you were called you the ministry, and you you
Speaker 1: often talked about talk about rather how you went with
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars and you didn't have much of anything,
Speaker 1: but you you went with two hundred dollars and you
Speaker 1: legitimately took a step of faith. And I think you
Speaker 1: and the broader point is this, I think that there's
Speaker 1: so many people, whether they be in you US abroad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the seed is within them. They it's within them. But
Speaker 1: there's so much fear out here, care, failure, fear of
Speaker 1: not making it. Oh, we have two hundred dollars, I
Speaker 1: need to wait until I get ten dollars. And to
Speaker 1: be the perfect set of circumstances for you to win
Speaker 1: is how most people think of it. But all you
Speaker 1: just need is a seed to go out there and
Speaker 1: God will do the rest. I don't think the biggest
Speaker 1: step was for me coming to Chicago with two hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: no place to stay with my family, and a lady
Speaker 1: opened our home to us and and started to keep
Speaker 1: kept us for eight months until we got started. I
Speaker 1: don't think that was the biggest step. The biggest step
Speaker 1: for me was to leave IBM. They were paying well,
Speaker 1: they're paying me so well, and that thing was sweet.
Speaker 1: I mean I had ambitioned to be to be the
Speaker 1: president of one of the divisions. That was the biggest
Speaker 1: step for me. God said, I want you to leave
Speaker 1: and go preaching that wants you to go to school. Man.
Speaker 1: I went and told my boss, I said, John, I'm
Speaker 1: leaving the company. He looked up, said Bill. He jumped
Speaker 1: up and closed the door. He said, told Anne, and
Speaker 1: could you bring Bill some coffee places? So he sat
Speaker 1: down with me, said Bill, what's wrong to understand? I'm
Speaker 1: up in upper management. I've been groomed by the company.
Speaker 1: I'm a minority. Are you following? I'm saying it? And
Speaker 1: I'm on his watch? And he could not afford me
Speaker 1: leaving on his watch. He said, Bill was wrong. I said, John,
Speaker 1: I have a call in my life. You have a
Speaker 1: what I said, I have a call in my life. Bill,
Speaker 1: take two weeks off. Okay, just take two itself. So
Speaker 1: I took two weeks off. If you know anything about vision,
Speaker 1: the clearer the vision, the faster your acceleration towards that goal.
Speaker 1: And when I got home and began to meditate that word,
Speaker 1: that vision cleared up. I came back after two weeks,
Speaker 1: said Bill, how are you doing now? I said, John,
Speaker 1: doing just great. He said, well, what what's what's happening?
Speaker 1: What's your decision? I said, John, Not only I have
Speaker 1: to leave. I'm gonna have to leave real soon. Oh, Bill,
Speaker 1: I said John. I got to call him my life. Now.
Speaker 1: That's this is interesting because you can't explain that to somebody.
Speaker 1: Because even the staff. Some of the staff I had
Speaker 1: I noticed I passed by their desk after they found
Speaker 1: out I was leaving, and when I passed by, they
Speaker 1: put their head down like they were working on something.
Speaker 1: You didn't need want to speak, but that's what I
Speaker 1: had to go through for that. Sometimes when people have
Speaker 1: been brought up in a home where there's not much,
Speaker 1: then they seek security. And you'll find when they get older,
Speaker 1: they won't take risk. You'll find that people brought up
Speaker 1: in homes with an appeals that all kinds of things
Speaker 1: happen else for seven years, and what happened when we
Speaker 1: get in the Kingdom in God, in Christ. We have
Speaker 1: to renew our minds because that's where those thoughts are located,
Speaker 1: at that subliminal level. And if you get down in there,
Speaker 1: through meditation, which can get down in there, it can
Speaker 1: empty that thing out and give you a rewrite. You
Speaker 1: mean to start all over again, meaning you will begin
Speaker 1: to see things in a much different light, much different light. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Now let me ask you this question, because you know
Speaker 1: we're we're talking about faith, and I hope everyone is
Speaker 1: following along and able to understand. American culture is becoming
Speaker 1: increasingly secular and with time less and less and what
Speaker 1: Americans going to churches? Are you at all troubled bout
Speaker 1: these trainers? Yeah, I mean it doesn't help, but trouble you.
Speaker 1: But I think that's why I was born. When you
Speaker 1: hear about something and it seems to have no value,
Speaker 1: then it affects your ability or your just decisions, or
Speaker 1: your desire to be a part of it because it
Speaker 1: just has you know, little no value. If from you know,
Speaker 1: going somebody selling a product or something like that, and
Speaker 1: it has no value to me or no perceived value,
Speaker 1: then I don't go there. I mean, somebody goes to
Speaker 1: a restaurant and you know, I said, you know, what's
Speaker 1: a good restaurant, Well, you can go to ABC restaurant
Speaker 1: over here, but that food is not too good. Well
Speaker 1: I'm not going over there. I mean, it doesn't do
Speaker 1: me any good. And I think what has happened is
Speaker 1: somehow the value of this word has not been taught.
Speaker 1: People have not seen it work and not you know,
Speaker 1: doing during a time when when when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: I have to admit, you know, I saw the value
Speaker 1: of the word, you know, some value. But then I
Speaker 1: came home and saw my parents fussing and fighting all
Speaker 1: over the I mean, what good is that? I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I didn't see word worked for me, you
Speaker 1: know know, And and so I had to get older
Speaker 1: to find out that many of them in the churches
Speaker 1: have not been taught how to use the word because
Speaker 1: if faith has no proof, it's a faith. And so
Speaker 1: what has happened is they haven't been taught faith, how
Speaker 1: faith works, how to use faith. I mean, I've got
Speaker 1: my wife by faith. And then after about six months, um,
Speaker 1: a voice spoke to me and said, you married the
Speaker 1: wrong woman. You thought she could do this, so I
Speaker 1: was easy. So well, I said, oh my goodness, what
Speaker 1: am I going to do now? I went to a
Speaker 1: meeting and the guy talked on faith. You know, we
Speaker 1: are both Christians. And then I went out to the
Speaker 1: book table and I saw a little book on praying
Speaker 1: God's word. I went out and picked up that little book,
Speaker 1: and I've slipped to a place where it says prayer
Speaker 1: for your wife, because in my opinion, I didn't need
Speaker 1: any prayer. Oh no, no, no, wrong. So what happened.
Speaker 1: I began to pray for her and here's what he said,
Speaker 1: things like this, My wife is a virtuous woman. She
Speaker 1: always does be good as long as there's life for dinner,
Speaker 1: the bread of idolist, gossip, discontent and self that he
Speaker 1: she does not eat. She gets up early, get spirit
Speaker 1: of food for the house. She assigned her mazor task.
Speaker 1: She does not court neglect of her presiduties by assuming
Speaker 1: her kingdom duties. By assuming that she opens her mouth
Speaker 1: and skillful and godly wisdom, and her tongue is lost kindness,
Speaker 1: she gives counsel and instruction. The word is working mildly
Speaker 1: in our marriage. We've been transformed into the image of
Speaker 1: Jesus by the renewing about I'd read that, and aft
Speaker 1: I closed the book, something said to me, that's not true.
Speaker 1: Everything in there was true because it came out of
Speaker 1: the Bible. Every line of that watch says there's difference
Speaker 1: between truth and facts. Yea, the truth is designed to
Speaker 1: remove or change the facts. And so as I said that,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, things start looking better. Hey, now
Speaker 1: we've been married, what thirty six years? Thirty seven years?
Speaker 1: Don't tell he came here right now. But but but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying a marriage made in heaven. Why because
Speaker 1: the seeds that I sowed in the marriage were from
Speaker 1: Heaven and that's why it's so sweet. And and when
Speaker 1: you say the truth can change the fact. We're talking
Speaker 1: about the Word of God, the Word and going wrong
Speaker 1: in your life. You can go to the Word of
Speaker 1: God and you can use that truth to change whatever
Speaker 1: fact that that you're anything that's wrong with your life.
Speaker 1: This word can change it anything. It's that powerful and
Speaker 1: I've seen it work in my own life. We're going
Speaker 1: to continue that point in the moment, but first, here's
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Speaker 1: a little bit up in Alabama during Jim Crow era,
Speaker 1: thinking what racism looks like? Personal? What do you what
Speaker 1: do you take of some of the things that have
Speaker 1: been happening in our country this year. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: George Floyd. I'm talking about Black Lives Matter, all the
Speaker 1: tension is going on in America to that. Well, I
Speaker 1: think there are some agendas with that. And I'm about
Speaker 1: to put up something on the website because people want
Speaker 1: me to answer what's going on now, So I've developed something.
Speaker 1: I'm about to put it on the website. But that okay, Um,
Speaker 1: what I believe is this is there some manipulation going
Speaker 1: on here. No, here's Here's what I'm saying. The thing
Speaker 1: that happened to George Floyd or any of the Floyd
Speaker 1: is something that never should happen, no, no doubt about
Speaker 1: never should happen. But at the same time, this year,
Speaker 1: we've had over six hundred murders by other black shooting
Speaker 1: blacks in Chicago. Nothing said about it, not one thing.
Speaker 1: How many blacks been shot by policeman in Chicago this
Speaker 1: year maybe seven, maybe because of encounters, maybe seven, maybe eight.
Speaker 1: But the ships are all those Some of those parents now,
Speaker 1: they tell me, have been grieving so long until they're
Speaker 1: starting to die early because of their son's being shot. See,
Speaker 1: I can. I can see it because I'm I'm here,
Speaker 1: and I can. I've seen the funerals and I've seen.
Speaker 1: But what understand George Floyd. I understand prejudice. I understand
Speaker 1: this is not okay. But wait a minute, let's look
Speaker 1: at the whole picture. I feel like somebody is being manipulated.
Speaker 1: That's not right. You mean these parents, for some reasons,
Speaker 1: are not as bad office as George Ford's Floyd's parents.
Speaker 1: I understand. If you've got military people, they need prayer.
Speaker 1: If you've got policemen, they need prayer. If you've got
Speaker 1: first responders, they need prayer. Doctors need prayer. They have
Speaker 1: somehow the scalpel has cut the wrong thing. They all
Speaker 1: need prayer. And I'm saying that is a piece there,
Speaker 1: that that's the part I don't like you because somebody
Speaker 1: here is not telling the whole story. So you see
Speaker 1: it as an agenda driven people are using tragedies to
Speaker 1: advance an agenda. Well, I think there's an agenda enclosed
Speaker 1: in that. I really do. And and and I think
Speaker 1: if anybody looked at the whole picture, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't see how they could come out with a
Speaker 1: different um you know, understanding, I mean, think about it. Now.
Speaker 1: You tell me about joege Floyd or anybody somebody in
Speaker 1: Nashville wherever they're being shot by a policeman or whatever
Speaker 1: have you. Then I'll come back over here. And I said,
Speaker 1: what what what? Whoa? Whoa? Now does I have one
Speaker 1: their six d here? Okay, let let's help me with this. Now,
Speaker 1: Why don't you say anything about this over here? Because
Speaker 1: over here is where I'm working. I'm right now. I've
Speaker 1: got a big prison reform ministry. I got big. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead. I'm trying to put up a
Speaker 1: thing now that we're going to teach nothing but skills
Speaker 1: in the hood and so forth. It's trying to put
Speaker 1: a bank. I try to put a bank in there. See,
Speaker 1: nobody said anything about that, because maybe that can get
Speaker 1: some of this pressure off or have it so that
Speaker 1: the black communities won't have such a difficult time with
Speaker 1: with kids being shot in the head, and so far,
Speaker 1: that's not that's that's not. Come on, Where where is that?
Speaker 1: Who's talking about? That's been going on for years? So
Speaker 1: I just feel like, hey, wait a second, somebody's playing
Speaker 1: some games and I'm not. I'm not. I'm not for
Speaker 1: that for the whole picture. Now, I believe injustice. Don't
Speaker 1: do the number one target of demonic abuse in the
Speaker 1: last days, there's going to be the justice system that's
Speaker 1: gonna be that, that's gonna be then on our national politics.
Speaker 1: We're seeing that right now. We're absolutely seeing that right now.
Speaker 1: And it's system. It's so interesting that you speak on
Speaker 1: the violence in Chicago because you're not just one to say, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of messed up that all these and
Speaker 1: shot you you did something and you were recently rather
Speaker 1: folks within your your your organization, recently on Fox News
Speaker 1: Channel on Laura Ingram Show. I think it was last year,
Speaker 1: the year before last, talking about all the things y'all
Speaker 1: are doing in terms of going into the prisons and
Speaker 1: turning we uh, that's what Dr Cornegille and my staff,
Speaker 1: we're actually going in there now, we're jail. We're taking
Speaker 1: financial literacy in there. Now they're coming right out and
Speaker 1: getting jobbed. As a matter of fact, before the pandemic,
Speaker 1: we had the employers to come to cook out of
Speaker 1: jail on the days we graduated the inmates from our
Speaker 1: series of course is and they were actually in ruling
Speaker 1: or enrolling hiring the inmates right there just before they
Speaker 1: got out. Wow, that's how powerful that thing was because
Speaker 1: we got to cut it off, sir. And and not
Speaker 1: not enough as being said about that. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know what, the program is so remarkable. I went interviewed
Speaker 1: two inmates at the County jail for Fox News Channel,
Speaker 1: and if people want to take a look at that clip,
Speaker 1: you can go to my Instagram edgen I don't called
Speaker 1: well and check it out on my YouTube page. But
Speaker 1: I interviewed these two men, one who went to jail
Speaker 1: for I believe it was murdering. The other one was
Speaker 1: a bank robber at one time. And they were really
Speaker 1: really preaching about how great the program was. And I
Speaker 1: know you go beyond that. You get them when they
Speaker 1: get out of jail too. I know you had the program,
Speaker 1: or at least still do have the program at the
Speaker 1: church where the folks who maybe you had a background,
Speaker 1: maybe they whatever they help it would go to the
Speaker 1: church and they would get to take them to the
Speaker 1: second chance that you would take them to the manufacturers.
Speaker 1: And absolutely we can. We we we received one of
Speaker 1: our stores that happened to be empty. In our one
Speaker 1: of our most one of our stores, somebody sent us
Speaker 1: a whole store full of men suits, shirts, I mean
Speaker 1: these were name brands. Everything shows up, a boot, all
Speaker 1: of that. It was looked. So we just had the inmates.
Speaker 1: They come come to the store, shirt and once for
Speaker 1: certain days, line up. Come on and you get suited up.
Speaker 1: Watch this. We've got a tailor that can tailor you
Speaker 1: up and so forth into and here's the shoes, here's
Speaker 1: the socks, here's everything. Everything they want m and we
Speaker 1: still have palettes of them. Left and you teach them
Speaker 1: the word too, don't you. But it's not absolutely, that's
Speaker 1: that without We opened a whole new location so when
Speaker 1: they come to catch the bus, they could sit and
Speaker 1: listen at the word before they catch the bus to
Speaker 1: go after their jobs. Oh yeah, oh yeah, who's talking
Speaker 1: about that. I'm just saying, let's cut it off at
Speaker 1: the root. Yes, and I thought, I've actually talked to
Speaker 1: the Trump administration about what you your your program and
Speaker 1: what you were doing. Oh yeah, they know about it.
Speaker 1: Involved absolutely, We're going to continue that point in the moment.
Speaker 1: But first he used a quick word from our sponsor.
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Speaker 1: Business please? Yeah? Okay. Some years ago I was asked
Speaker 1: to come. One of the members said, my boss wants
Speaker 1: to see you. I said, what he wants to see
Speaker 1: me about? And he said, we only wants to I
Speaker 1: think he wants to know what he could do for
Speaker 1: some of the youth in Chicago. Okay, So I went
Speaker 1: and visited with him. He was ahead of a fortune
Speaker 1: company here in Chicago headquarters. Here, here's a CEO and
Speaker 1: he said, hey, whover and I want to know what
Speaker 1: I could do for blackmail youth in Chicago. Show Okay,
Speaker 1: I it, Bob, I don't know what you gonna do today.
Speaker 1: Give me seven days. I'll come back and tell you
Speaker 1: exactly what to do. Seven days past, God gave me
Speaker 1: a a real strategy, and so I came back. So
Speaker 1: it was to go to the schools on the West Side,
Speaker 1: get twenty kids out of the eleventh and twelfth grades.
Speaker 1: Get twenty kids and have a nine month program. They
Speaker 1: meet on Saturdays only, and a nine month program. Let's
Speaker 1: take them through Covenant Talk, which is the Bible for
Speaker 1: the first half hour and just use examples, illustrations, so
Speaker 1: forth and long of how the Covenant can help them,
Speaker 1: and then teach some business. So when they first came
Speaker 1: said hey, I said, what do you want to be? Well, um,
Speaker 1: I want to be uh, you know Michael Jackson. Oh,
Speaker 1: I want to be Michael Jordan's. Um, I want to
Speaker 1: be like Mike you know, I mean everybody everybody wanted
Speaker 1: to be that. And then after six months of me
Speaker 1: parading people in front of them that looked like them,
Speaker 1: who happened to be advertising managers and so forth and
Speaker 1: so on, I what do you want to be? Now?
Speaker 1: After six months now a one, I said, don't tell us,
Speaker 1: draw it. And one came up with a piece of
Speaker 1: paper that he had taped together and he had this
Speaker 1: big thing on it, and I said, okay, what's that?
Speaker 1: Can you guess what it is that he wants to be?
Speaker 1: Nobody could guess. I said, okay, tell us what is
Speaker 1: it that you want to be? He said, this is
Speaker 1: one of my hotels. And I'm just saying we got him.
Speaker 1: Most of them never been the airport, most of them
Speaker 1: hadn't been to sections downtown. Most of them hadn't been
Speaker 1: They were afraid, and I'm saying we broke that. They
Speaker 1: began to break out of the gangs that they were in.
Speaker 1: And the principle asked me when we started, how are
Speaker 1: you going to motivate them? How are you going to
Speaker 1: give them the desire to learn? And we gave him
Speaker 1: the desire by showing him the fruit of Canaan. When
Speaker 1: we showed him that fruit, that fruit is designed and say, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to be that, I want to be this,
Speaker 1: and they call onto hand signals. We took them down
Speaker 1: to the downtown and it showed them commodities exchanged and
Speaker 1: showed them hand signals. They came back and we said, okay,
Speaker 1: give us a hand signals for this, give us a
Speaker 1: hand signals for that. Everything to hit picked up. They're
Speaker 1: learning just was accelerated. So that was the beginning of it.
Speaker 1: And we had them to learn to sell eggs because
Speaker 1: they sold them to their neighbors and and let them
Speaker 1: the neighbors see them as something other than gang bangers
Speaker 1: in the community. So that was the start of I
Speaker 1: had to stop it because we got too busy with
Speaker 1: the ministry and so forth. On them cry because I
Speaker 1: had to stop and so forth. But I had to
Speaker 1: couldn't go on the next year. So then years later
Speaker 1: Joseph Business School started and that's the entrepreneurship School. What
Speaker 1: we take people who just give me a read and
Speaker 1: write high school education. You come in, we'll teach you
Speaker 1: how to start a business and how to scale that
Speaker 1: business and we want you to reach a million dollars
Speaker 1: within the first year success. Oh my goodness, my goodness.
Speaker 1: And we're about to escalate that now. So we've opened
Speaker 1: up a whole new school in South Africa where we've
Speaker 1: you know, looking at other places. Now we have schools
Speaker 1: and in five different continents. Wow, that's what it's done.
Speaker 1: So it's educating people, it's taking them so that they
Speaker 1: could see their mission as a business leader in their
Speaker 1: communities to hire people, give them jobs, so forth and
Speaker 1: so on, and not just retail. How about manufacturing the
Speaker 1: whole thing, the whole thing, the whole thing. And it
Speaker 1: is highly successful and it's been we've got an awards
Speaker 1: for and so forth like that. But I just want
Speaker 1: to get the fruit from it. I want I wanted
Speaker 1: to change the economy of these there is golden together.
Speaker 1: I want them to change the economy of these neighborhoods
Speaker 1: that they said nothing can grow in there. I've been
Speaker 1: declaring this that we're going to turn the West Side
Speaker 1: into Wall Street. Wow. And that's the west side of Chicago.
Speaker 1: You're from. Wow. I gotta tell you, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you this. I didn't go to the Joseph Business School,
Speaker 1: but I was in your ministry and still am. Let
Speaker 1: me be clear about that, but I would go to
Speaker 1: you have three services as a twenty thousand member church.
Speaker 1: I would go to. When I first started going, I
Speaker 1: was so in tune with what you were seeing and
Speaker 1: I had never heard it before, and you were really
Speaker 1: programming me out of a victim mentality and dependency on
Speaker 1: the government and all these other things. And like I said,
Speaker 1: you're the reason, part of the reason why I became
Speaker 1: a conservative. And I didn't really realize that into years later,
Speaker 1: that it was the message that I kept hearing from
Speaker 1: you week after week. You don't get into politics. You
Speaker 1: tell people, hey, you know, I'm not politically the politicians
Speaker 1: come to the church. You let them, you know, wave
Speaker 1: and introduce them, but that that's about it. But even
Speaker 1: you told people, and you know, we got a lot
Speaker 1: of folks in the Church of the African Americans and
Speaker 1: it's you know, Chicago's a democratic stone call. You say, listen,
Speaker 1: we gotta pay, we gotta pray for President Trump. We
Speaker 1: have to pray for those who are in authority. That's
Speaker 1: our that's our responsibility to pray for all that are
Speaker 1: in authority. Absolutely absolutely, and being under that ministry as
Speaker 1: I still am, caused me to own a multi union
Speaker 1: apartment building at the age of nineteen years old, y'all,
Speaker 1: And that that was the end of my story. There
Speaker 1: now we go. I know, it was a blessed that
Speaker 1: we're gonna close out. You got a book coming out
Speaker 1: or you got yeah, yeah, well I've got several, you know,
Speaker 1: But I've got one the Kingdom of God, which is
Speaker 1: something that a lot of the believers don't know anything about,
Speaker 1: which is a person who doesn't understand the Kingdom doesn't
Speaker 1: really understand a whole lot of the bibble. Now we
Speaker 1: can read it and get some principles from it and
Speaker 1: so forth. But this Kingdom message is a message that, um,
Speaker 1: you get ahold of that you'll succeed anywhere. And I'm
Speaker 1: coming out with a new book. I'm coming out with
Speaker 1: a revised The Kingdom of God in You, and then
Speaker 1: up coming out with another one called Revelation of Royalty,
Speaker 1: letting you know who you really are. Royalty is a
Speaker 1: concept that the Holy Spirit has to two to you into.
Speaker 1: He has to let you know that you came from
Speaker 1: a royal family, meaning the family of God. And if
Speaker 1: a person has to understand that that the royalty doesn't
Speaker 1: come without wealth, I mean, royalty doesn't come without dignity.
Speaker 1: Royalty doesn't come The Holy Spirit will teach you how
Speaker 1: to talk again, how to walk your You'll teach you
Speaker 1: the deportment. He'll teach you how to to say things,
Speaker 1: how to use wisdom, he will teach you to operate
Speaker 1: like royalty. And I'm coming out with that book as well.
Speaker 1: But the one that's out right now is Faith and
Speaker 1: the Marketplace. That's the one that's big. Faith in the marketplace.
Speaker 1: Faith and the Marketplace. You people have to know. Faith
Speaker 1: is applied to church, it's applied to media, it's applied you,
Speaker 1: applied everywhere, and it will take you up the mountain. Wow.
Speaker 1: Then I agree because I've seen their work for myself
Speaker 1: and I think that's the best thing to have demonstration
Speaker 1: what to work and do. And I'm forever thankful to
Speaker 1: you for your leadership, your mentorship, you being my spiritual dad.
Speaker 1: I really really am thankful for you. Now before we go,
Speaker 1: and I know I want to give people your social
Speaker 1: media which is on on Twitter as Dr Bill Winston
Speaker 1: for those who may want to follow you. I know
Speaker 1: you have an Instagram account to and I I think
Speaker 1: that's Dr Bill as well, and Facebook pages, so please
Speaker 1: do follow him there because he Oh and YouTube YouTube
Speaker 1: You've got like some great amazings and I watch them
Speaker 1: all the time, The Sunday Service, the whole deal. Now,
Speaker 1: before you go, would you mind, would you mind just
Speaker 1: give us a short prayer Thanksgiving Thanksgiving week, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of families that can't come together because of
Speaker 1: the different laws of the landing, and certainly those who
Speaker 1: can you know, there's no no distance in the spirit.
Speaker 1: I understand that. Can you just give us a yeah,
Speaker 1: let me just say this before I do pray, Just
Speaker 1: letting people know God it's not forgotten you. Just by
Speaker 1: your listening to this broadcast, a podcast, whatever you're listening to.
Speaker 1: I'm just let you know there's no coincidence that you're
Speaker 1: listening to it. He's not forgotten you. And I'm here
Speaker 1: to let you know, as is a spokesman for good
Speaker 1: He's not forgotten you. Let's pray. Father, We thank you
Speaker 1: so much for all those who are listening, and thank
Speaker 1: you Lord for you giving us what we need to
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and being able to carry
Speaker 1: out the work that you've assigned us to do or Lord,
Speaker 1: to be able to have hope in our hearts. Father,
Speaker 1: we thank you also for things that you've done for us,
Speaker 1: even in the past, when you've carried us over. We
Speaker 1: didn't even know you were carrying us, but you were
Speaker 1: caring us and protecting us. Thank you for it. Now,
Speaker 1: we're thanking you also for what we have today, thought,
Speaker 1: what we've done, what we've accumulated, the things that we
Speaker 1: have been blessed with. And now we also thank you
Speaker 1: for what were you're going to do. The Lord you
Speaker 1: said you only do great things, and we're expecting that
Speaker 1: right now. So we give you and celebrate you and
Speaker 1: the name of Jesus doing this time of thanksgiving. And
Speaker 1: let you know, Lord will always give your name to praise.
Speaker 1: Thank you for it and Jesus. Amen. Hey man, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you, Thank you so. Dr
Speaker 1: Bill Winston, thank you. I want to thank you for
Speaker 1: joining the outline with you oswell and people will be
Speaker 1: following there. Thank you so much, thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1: God black Play. I want to give a very special
Speaker 1: thank you to my pastor, Dr Bill Winston for a
Speaker 1: very very amazing interview, inspiring one which I hope everyone
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