1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Up next Out Loud with Joanno called well, part of 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: the beginning with school Welcome back to how Allow what 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Gianno called Well? Here's part two of my interview with 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Dr Bill Winston, my pastor and mentor and also the 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: founder of Living Where Christian Center, a nondenomination of Christian 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Church just outside of Chicago. Let's go. I want people 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: to understand that how practical this is, because oftentimes when 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: we talk about faith, people think of it as kind 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: of like, oh, spooky and ghosts and has happened, But 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: there's a practical measure to it. I remember you talking 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: about how you can plan a seed and God will 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: bless you with the promotion on your job. Never thought 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: about them how it can happen anyway. See, people have 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: separated God from work. They they have they have taken 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: and said, well, I go to Sunday, go to church 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and the rest of the week I leave 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: God in church. I'm out of here working. And that's 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: not the Hebrew concept. The concept is is that wherever 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: you are, He's with you seven days a week, and 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: the principles that He's given you are to be used 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: in every aspect or every sphere of influence. Whether you're 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: a football player, whether it doesn't make any difference. Faith 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: is a universal concept and it's designed to give you 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: an advantage or have you to do the impossible, or 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: had you to believe the unbelievable when it's time, and 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: faith can do that. And just to finish up this story, 27 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: next thing I know, I come home. I said, well, sweetheart, 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: that sounds like some good soup cooking. She said, it's 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: not ours. I said, whose is it? She said, well, 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: it's it's a friend down the street. They family fellow 31 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: on some hard times. Man, I wanted that soup so bad. 32 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: So that was a sacrifice seed. We may not have 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: had much money, but we had something as a seed. 34 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: And God does nothing without a seed, nothing apart from faith, 35 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: and nothing without love, those three things. And so what 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: happened she took it down there? I guess within two 37 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: three days the phone rang. He said, I'm a person 38 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: working at this new employment company. I ran across your 39 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: wife's application. Is she around? I said yeah, and she 40 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: said put her on the phone. He put on the phone. 41 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: She said, yep, yep, yep. Well he said he had 42 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: something for now, understand what we had done. We had 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: designed her job. She wanted it ten minutes from the house. 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: She wanted it with this kind of office in computers. 45 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: She wanted it with a good manager boss. She wanted 46 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: it with this much money, and she wanted an automobile 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: with it. All of those on a card. We have 48 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: that card today. We took that card and believed by 49 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: faith that God that heaven in her would meet the 50 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: terms on that card. And watch this. She came back 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: from the interview. I said, how did we do? She said, 52 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: get the card? I said, ten minutes from the house. 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: She said just about ten minutes. I said, okay, um, 54 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: how about the office? She said, nice office. I said, 55 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: how about the money? She said the money she gave 56 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: me five thousand dollars more than we had on the card. 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: I said, that was my prayer. She I said, well, 58 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: how about the car? She said, they told me to 59 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: go pick up the new Buick. No notice, you are 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: never designed to live in the world you didn't create. 61 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: You can create your own world. Now. I didn't say 62 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: the world. I said your own world, and you're designed 63 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: to do that. That's a production capability that you have. 64 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: People are not poor because they don't have enough money, 65 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: or don't have a job that pays much. They're poor 66 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: because of the absence of self production. Never forget that. 67 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: And so what happened every person is can be a producer. 68 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: When they're not, they become migrant. They have to go 69 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: somewhere else, either go out in the next in suburb 70 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: to get to the grocer's oil, and they have to 71 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: go from another country across into this country trying to 72 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: get because of self productive they haven't been taught that 73 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: they can produce. And when they're not taught that, the 74 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: next thing you do, they become only consumers. And I'm 75 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: just saying, wherever you are, God can make you a producer. 76 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: You can create your own world by the word of God. 77 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: So you know what's interesting to me is you left 78 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: the town that you were at because you believe God 79 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: as you were called you the ministry, and you you 80 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: often talked about talk about rather how you went with 81 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: two hundred dollars and you didn't have much of anything, 82 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: but you you went with two hundred dollars and you 83 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: legitimately took a step of faith. And I think you 84 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: and the broader point is this, I think that there's 85 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: so many people, whether they be in you US abroad. Yeah, 86 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: the seed is within them. They it's within them. But 87 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: there's so much fear out here, care, failure, fear of 88 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: not making it. Oh, we have two hundred dollars, I 89 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: need to wait until I get ten dollars. And to 90 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: be the perfect set of circumstances for you to win 91 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: is how most people think of it. But all you 92 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: just need is a seed to go out there and 93 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: God will do the rest. I don't think the biggest 94 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: step was for me coming to Chicago with two hundred dollars, 95 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: no place to stay with my family, and a lady 96 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: opened our home to us and and started to keep 97 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: kept us for eight months until we got started. I 98 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: don't think that was the biggest step. The biggest step 99 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: for me was to leave IBM. They were paying well, 100 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: they're paying me so well, and that thing was sweet. 101 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean I had ambitioned to be to be the 102 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: president of one of the divisions. That was the biggest 103 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: step for me. God said, I want you to leave 104 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: and go preaching that wants you to go to school. Man. 105 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: I went and told my boss, I said, John, I'm 106 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: leaving the company. He looked up, said Bill. He jumped 107 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: up and closed the door. He said, told Anne, and 108 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: could you bring Bill some coffee places? So he sat 109 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: down with me, said Bill, what's wrong to understand? I'm 110 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: up in upper management. I've been groomed by the company. 111 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm a minority. Are you following? I'm saying it? And 112 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm on his watch? And he could not afford me 113 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: leaving on his watch. He said, Bill was wrong. I said, John, 114 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: I have a call in my life. You have a 115 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: what I said, I have a call in my life. Bill, 116 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: take two weeks off. Okay, just take two itself. So 117 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: I took two weeks off. If you know anything about vision, 118 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: the clearer the vision, the faster your acceleration towards that goal. 119 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: And when I got home and began to meditate that word, 120 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: that vision cleared up. I came back after two weeks, 121 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: said Bill, how are you doing now? I said, John, 122 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: doing just great. He said, well, what what's what's happening? 123 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: What's your decision? I said, John, Not only I have 124 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: to leave. I'm gonna have to leave real soon. Oh, Bill, 125 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: I said John. I got to call him my life. Now. 126 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: That's this is interesting because you can't explain that to somebody. 127 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: Because even the staff. Some of the staff I had 128 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: I noticed I passed by their desk after they found 129 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: out I was leaving, and when I passed by, they 130 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: put their head down like they were working on something. 131 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: You didn't need want to speak, but that's what I 132 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: had to go through for that. Sometimes when people have 133 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: been brought up in a home where there's not much, 134 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: then they seek security. And you'll find when they get older, 135 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: they won't take risk. You'll find that people brought up 136 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: in homes with an appeals that all kinds of things 137 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: happen else for seven years, and what happened when we 138 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: get in the Kingdom in God, in Christ. We have 139 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: to renew our minds because that's where those thoughts are located, 140 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: at that subliminal level. And if you get down in there, 141 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: through meditation, which can get down in there, it can 142 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: empty that thing out and give you a rewrite. You 143 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: mean to start all over again, meaning you will begin 144 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: to see things in a much different light, much different light. Absolutely. 145 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: Now let me ask you this question, because you know 146 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: we're we're talking about faith, and I hope everyone is 147 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: following along and able to understand. American culture is becoming 148 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:43,599 Speaker 1: increasingly secular and with time less and less and what 149 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: Americans going to churches? Are you at all troubled bout 150 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: these trainers? Yeah, I mean it doesn't help, but trouble you. 151 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: But I think that's why I was born. When you 152 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: hear about something and it seems to have no value, 153 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: then it affects your ability or your just decisions, or 154 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: your desire to be a part of it because it 155 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: just has you know, little no value. If from you know, 156 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: going somebody selling a product or something like that, and 157 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: it has no value to me or no perceived value, 158 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: then I don't go there. I mean, somebody goes to 159 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: a restaurant and you know, I said, you know, what's 160 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: a good restaurant, Well, you can go to ABC restaurant 161 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: over here, but that food is not too good. Well 162 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going over there. I mean, it doesn't do 163 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: me any good. And I think what has happened is 164 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: somehow the value of this word has not been taught. 165 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: People have not seen it work and not you know, 166 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: doing during a time when when when I was growing up, 167 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: I have to admit, you know, I saw the value 168 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: of the word, you know, some value. But then I 169 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: came home and saw my parents fussing and fighting all 170 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: over the I mean, what good is that? I mean, 171 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: I just I didn't see word worked for me, you 172 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: know know, And and so I had to get older 173 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: to find out that many of them in the churches 174 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: have not been taught how to use the word because 175 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: if faith has no proof, it's a faith. And so 176 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: what has happened is they haven't been taught faith, how 177 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: faith works, how to use faith. I mean, I've got 178 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: my wife by faith. And then after about six months, um, 179 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: a voice spoke to me and said, you married the 180 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: wrong woman. You thought she could do this, so I 181 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: was easy. So well, I said, oh my goodness, what 182 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 1: am I going to do now? I went to a 183 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: meeting and the guy talked on faith. You know, we 184 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: are both Christians. And then I went out to the 185 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: book table and I saw a little book on praying 186 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: God's word. I went out and picked up that little book, 187 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: and I've slipped to a place where it says prayer 188 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: for your wife, because in my opinion, I didn't need 189 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: any prayer. Oh no, no, no, wrong. So what happened. 190 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: I began to pray for her and here's what he said, 191 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: things like this, My wife is a virtuous woman. She 192 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: always does be good as long as there's life for dinner, 193 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: the bread of idolist, gossip, discontent and self that he 194 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: she does not eat. She gets up early, get spirit 195 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: of food for the house. She assigned her mazor task. 196 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: She does not court neglect of her presiduties by assuming 197 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: her kingdom duties. By assuming that she opens her mouth 198 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: and skillful and godly wisdom, and her tongue is lost kindness, 199 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: she gives counsel and instruction. The word is working mildly 200 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: in our marriage. We've been transformed into the image of 201 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: Jesus by the renewing about I'd read that, and aft 202 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: I closed the book, something said to me, that's not true. 203 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: Everything in there was true because it came out of 204 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: the Bible. Every line of that watch says there's difference 205 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: between truth and facts. Yea, the truth is designed to 206 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: remove or change the facts. And so as I said that, 207 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, things start looking better. Hey, now 208 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: we've been married, what thirty six years? Thirty seven years? 209 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: Don't tell he came here right now. But but but 210 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm just saying a marriage made in heaven. Why because 211 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: the seeds that I sowed in the marriage were from 212 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: Heaven and that's why it's so sweet. And and when 213 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: you say the truth can change the fact. We're talking 214 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: about the Word of God, the Word and going wrong 215 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: in your life. You can go to the Word of 216 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: God and you can use that truth to change whatever 217 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: fact that that you're anything that's wrong with your life. 218 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: This word can change it anything. It's that powerful and 219 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: I've seen it work in my own life. We're going 220 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: to continue that point in the moment, but first, here's 221 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: a quick word from our sponsor. Let me switch gears 222 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: a little bit up in Alabama during Jim Crow era, 223 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: thinking what racism looks like? Personal? What do you what 224 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: do you take of some of the things that have 225 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: been happening in our country this year. I'm talking about 226 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: George Floyd. I'm talking about Black Lives Matter, all the 227 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: tension is going on in America to that. Well, I 228 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: think there are some agendas with that. And I'm about 229 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: to put up something on the website because people want 230 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: me to answer what's going on now, So I've developed something. 231 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm about to put it on the website. But that okay, Um, 232 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: what I believe is this is there some manipulation going 233 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: on here. No, here's Here's what I'm saying. The thing 234 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: that happened to George Floyd or any of the Floyd 235 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: is something that never should happen, no, no doubt about 236 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: never should happen. But at the same time, this year, 237 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: we've had over six hundred murders by other black shooting 238 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: blacks in Chicago. Nothing said about it, not one thing. 239 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: How many blacks been shot by policeman in Chicago this 240 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: year maybe seven, maybe because of encounters, maybe seven, maybe eight. 241 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: But the ships are all those Some of those parents now, 242 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: they tell me, have been grieving so long until they're 243 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: starting to die early because of their son's being shot. See, 244 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: I can. I can see it because I'm I'm here, 245 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: and I can. I've seen the funerals and I've seen. 246 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: But what understand George Floyd. I understand prejudice. I understand 247 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: this is not okay. But wait a minute, let's look 248 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: at the whole picture. I feel like somebody is being manipulated. 249 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: That's not right. You mean these parents, for some reasons, 250 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: are not as bad office as George Ford's Floyd's parents. 251 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: I understand. If you've got military people, they need prayer. 252 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: If you've got policemen, they need prayer. If you've got 253 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: first responders, they need prayer. Doctors need prayer. They have 254 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: somehow the scalpel has cut the wrong thing. They all 255 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: need prayer. And I'm saying that is a piece there, 256 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: that that's the part I don't like you because somebody 257 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: here is not telling the whole story. So you see 258 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: it as an agenda driven people are using tragedies to 259 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: advance an agenda. Well, I think there's an agenda enclosed 260 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: in that. I really do. And and and I think 261 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: if anybody looked at the whole picture, I don't think. 262 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't see how they could come out with a 263 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: different um you know, understanding, I mean, think about it. Now. 264 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: You tell me about joege Floyd or anybody somebody in 265 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: Nashville wherever they're being shot by a policeman or whatever 266 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: have you. Then I'll come back over here. And I said, 267 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: what what what? Whoa? Whoa? Now does I have one 268 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: their six d here? Okay, let let's help me with this. Now, 269 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: Why don't you say anything about this over here? Because 270 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: over here is where I'm working. I'm right now. I've 271 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: got a big prison reform ministry. I got big. So 272 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead. I'm trying to put up a 273 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: thing now that we're going to teach nothing but skills 274 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: in the hood and so forth. It's trying to put 275 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: a bank. I try to put a bank in there. See, 276 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: nobody said anything about that, because maybe that can get 277 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: some of this pressure off or have it so that 278 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: the black communities won't have such a difficult time with 279 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: with kids being shot in the head, and so far, 280 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: that's not that's that's not. Come on, Where where is that? 281 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: Who's talking about? That's been going on for years? So 282 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: I just feel like, hey, wait a second, somebody's playing 283 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: some games and I'm not. I'm not. I'm not for 284 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: that for the whole picture. Now, I believe injustice. Don't 285 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: do the number one target of demonic abuse in the 286 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: last days, there's going to be the justice system that's 287 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: gonna be that, that's gonna be then on our national politics. 288 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: We're seeing that right now. We're absolutely seeing that right now. 289 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: And it's system. It's so interesting that you speak on 290 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: the violence in Chicago because you're not just one to say, man, 291 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of messed up that all these and 292 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: shot you you did something and you were recently rather 293 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: folks within your your your organization, recently on Fox News 294 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: Channel on Laura Ingram Show. I think it was last year, 295 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: the year before last, talking about all the things y'all 296 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: are doing in terms of going into the prisons and 297 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: turning we uh, that's what Dr Cornegille and my staff, 298 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: we're actually going in there now, we're jail. We're taking 299 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: financial literacy in there. Now they're coming right out and 300 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: getting jobbed. As a matter of fact, before the pandemic, 301 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: we had the employers to come to cook out of 302 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: jail on the days we graduated the inmates from our 303 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: series of course is and they were actually in ruling 304 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: or enrolling hiring the inmates right there just before they 305 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: got out. Wow, that's how powerful that thing was because 306 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: we got to cut it off, sir. And and not 307 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: not enough as being said about that. Yeah, and you 308 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: know what, the program is so remarkable. I went interviewed 309 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: two inmates at the County jail for Fox News Channel, 310 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: and if people want to take a look at that clip, 311 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: you can go to my Instagram edgen I don't called 312 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: well and check it out on my YouTube page. But 313 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: I interviewed these two men, one who went to jail 314 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: for I believe it was murdering. The other one was 315 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: a bank robber at one time. And they were really 316 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: really preaching about how great the program was. And I 317 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: know you go beyond that. You get them when they 318 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: get out of jail too. I know you had the program, 319 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: or at least still do have the program at the 320 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: church where the folks who maybe you had a background, 321 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: maybe they whatever they help it would go to the 322 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: church and they would get to take them to the 323 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: second chance that you would take them to the manufacturers. 324 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: And absolutely we can. We we we received one of 325 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: our stores that happened to be empty. In our one 326 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: of our most one of our stores, somebody sent us 327 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: a whole store full of men suits, shirts, I mean 328 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: these were name brands. Everything shows up, a boot, all 329 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: of that. It was looked. So we just had the inmates. 330 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: They come come to the store, shirt and once for 331 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: certain days, line up. Come on and you get suited up. 332 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: Watch this. We've got a tailor that can tailor you 333 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: up and so forth into and here's the shoes, here's 334 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: the socks, here's everything. Everything they want m and we 335 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: still have palettes of them. Left and you teach them 336 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: the word too, don't you. But it's not absolutely, that's 337 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: that without We opened a whole new location so when 338 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: they come to catch the bus, they could sit and 339 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: listen at the word before they catch the bus to 340 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: go after their jobs. Oh yeah, oh yeah, who's talking 341 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: about that. I'm just saying, let's cut it off at 342 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: the root. Yes, and I thought, I've actually talked to 343 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: the Trump administration about what you your your program and 344 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: what you were doing. Oh yeah, they know about it. 345 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: Involved absolutely, We're going to continue that point in the moment. 346 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: But first he used a quick word from our sponsor. 347 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: Can you talk to us about the Joseph School of 348 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 1: Business please? Yeah? Okay. Some years ago I was asked 349 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: to come. One of the members said, my boss wants 350 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: to see you. I said, what he wants to see 351 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: me about? And he said, we only wants to I 352 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: think he wants to know what he could do for 353 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: some of the youth in Chicago. Okay, So I went 354 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: and visited with him. He was ahead of a fortune 355 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: company here in Chicago headquarters. Here, here's a CEO and 356 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: he said, hey, whover and I want to know what 357 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: I could do for blackmail youth in Chicago. Show Okay, 358 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: I it, Bob, I don't know what you gonna do today. 359 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: Give me seven days. I'll come back and tell you 360 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: exactly what to do. Seven days past, God gave me 361 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: a a real strategy, and so I came back. So 362 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: it was to go to the schools on the West Side, 363 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: get twenty kids out of the eleventh and twelfth grades. 364 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: Get twenty kids and have a nine month program. They 365 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: meet on Saturdays only, and a nine month program. Let's 366 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: take them through Covenant Talk, which is the Bible for 367 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: the first half hour and just use examples, illustrations, so 368 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: forth and long of how the Covenant can help them, 369 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: and then teach some business. So when they first came 370 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: said hey, I said, what do you want to be? Well, um, 371 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: I want to be uh, you know Michael Jackson. Oh, 372 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: I want to be Michael Jordan's. Um, I want to 373 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: be like Mike you know, I mean everybody everybody wanted 374 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: to be that. And then after six months of me 375 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: parading people in front of them that looked like them, 376 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: who happened to be advertising managers and so forth and 377 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: so on, I what do you want to be? Now? 378 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: After six months now a one, I said, don't tell us, 379 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: draw it. And one came up with a piece of 380 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: paper that he had taped together and he had this 381 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: big thing on it, and I said, okay, what's that? 382 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: Can you guess what it is that he wants to be? 383 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: Nobody could guess. I said, okay, tell us what is 384 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: it that you want to be? He said, this is 385 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: one of my hotels. And I'm just saying we got him. 386 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: Most of them never been the airport, most of them 387 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: hadn't been to sections downtown. Most of them hadn't been 388 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: They were afraid, and I'm saying we broke that. They 389 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: began to break out of the gangs that they were in. 390 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: And the principle asked me when we started, how are 391 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: you going to motivate them? How are you going to 392 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: give them the desire to learn? And we gave him 393 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: the desire by showing him the fruit of Canaan. When 394 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: we showed him that fruit, that fruit is designed and say, hey, 395 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: I want to be that, I want to be this, 396 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: and they call onto hand signals. We took them down 397 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: to the downtown and it showed them commodities exchanged and 398 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: showed them hand signals. They came back and we said, okay, 399 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: give us a hand signals for this, give us a 400 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: hand signals for that. Everything to hit picked up. They're 401 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: learning just was accelerated. So that was the beginning of it. 402 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: And we had them to learn to sell eggs because 403 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: they sold them to their neighbors and and let them 404 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: the neighbors see them as something other than gang bangers 405 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: in the community. So that was the start of I 406 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: had to stop it because we got too busy with 407 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: the ministry and so forth. On them cry because I 408 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: had to stop and so forth. But I had to 409 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: couldn't go on the next year. So then years later 410 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: Joseph Business School started and that's the entrepreneurship School. What 411 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: we take people who just give me a read and 412 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: write high school education. You come in, we'll teach you 413 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: how to start a business and how to scale that 414 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: business and we want you to reach a million dollars 415 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: within the first year success. Oh my goodness, my goodness. 416 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: And we're about to escalate that now. So we've opened 417 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: up a whole new school in South Africa where we've 418 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, looking at other places. Now we have schools 419 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: and in five different continents. Wow, that's what it's done. 420 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: So it's educating people, it's taking them so that they 421 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: could see their mission as a business leader in their 422 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: communities to hire people, give them jobs, so forth and 423 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: so on, and not just retail. How about manufacturing the 424 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: whole thing, the whole thing, the whole thing. And it 425 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: is highly successful and it's been we've got an awards 426 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: for and so forth like that. But I just want 427 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: to get the fruit from it. I want I wanted 428 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: to change the economy of these there is golden together. 429 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: I want them to change the economy of these neighborhoods 430 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: that they said nothing can grow in there. I've been 431 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: declaring this that we're going to turn the West Side 432 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: into Wall Street. Wow. And that's the west side of Chicago. 433 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: You're from. Wow. I gotta tell you, and I'm gonna 434 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: tell you this. I didn't go to the Joseph Business School, 435 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: but I was in your ministry and still am. Let 436 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: me be clear about that, but I would go to 437 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: you have three services as a twenty thousand member church. 438 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: I would go to. When I first started going, I 439 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: was so in tune with what you were seeing and 440 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: I had never heard it before, and you were really 441 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: programming me out of a victim mentality and dependency on 442 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: the government and all these other things. And like I said, 443 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: you're the reason, part of the reason why I became 444 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: a conservative. And I didn't really realize that into years later, 445 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: that it was the message that I kept hearing from 446 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: you week after week. You don't get into politics. You 447 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: tell people, hey, you know, I'm not politically the politicians 448 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: come to the church. You let them, you know, wave 449 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: and introduce them, but that that's about it. But even 450 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: you told people, and you know, we got a lot 451 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: of folks in the Church of the African Americans and 452 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: it's you know, Chicago's a democratic stone call. You say, listen, 453 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: we gotta pay, we gotta pray for President Trump. We 454 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: have to pray for those who are in authority. That's 455 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: our that's our responsibility to pray for all that are 456 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: in authority. Absolutely absolutely, and being under that ministry as 457 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: I still am, caused me to own a multi union 458 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: apartment building at the age of nineteen years old, y'all, 459 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: And that that was the end of my story. There 460 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: now we go. I know, it was a blessed that 461 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: we're gonna close out. You got a book coming out 462 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: or you got yeah, yeah, well I've got several, you know, 463 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: But I've got one the Kingdom of God, which is 464 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: something that a lot of the believers don't know anything about, 465 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: which is a person who doesn't understand the Kingdom doesn't 466 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: really understand a whole lot of the bibble. Now we 467 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: can read it and get some principles from it and 468 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: so forth. But this Kingdom message is a message that, um, 469 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: you get ahold of that you'll succeed anywhere. And I'm 470 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: coming out with a new book. I'm coming out with 471 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: a revised The Kingdom of God in You, and then 472 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: up coming out with another one called Revelation of Royalty, 473 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: letting you know who you really are. Royalty is a 474 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: concept that the Holy Spirit has to two to you into. 475 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: He has to let you know that you came from 476 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: a royal family, meaning the family of God. And if 477 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: a person has to understand that that the royalty doesn't 478 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: come without wealth, I mean, royalty doesn't come without dignity. 479 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: Royalty doesn't come The Holy Spirit will teach you how 480 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: to talk again, how to walk your You'll teach you 481 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: the deportment. He'll teach you how to to say things, 482 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: how to use wisdom, he will teach you to operate 483 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: like royalty. And I'm coming out with that book as well. 484 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: But the one that's out right now is Faith and 485 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: the Marketplace. That's the one that's big. Faith in the marketplace. 486 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: Faith and the Marketplace. You people have to know. Faith 487 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: is applied to church, it's applied to media, it's applied you, 488 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: applied everywhere, and it will take you up the mountain. Wow. 489 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: Then I agree because I've seen their work for myself 490 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: and I think that's the best thing to have demonstration 491 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: what to work and do. And I'm forever thankful to 492 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: you for your leadership, your mentorship, you being my spiritual dad. 493 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: I really really am thankful for you. Now before we go, 494 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: and I know I want to give people your social 495 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: media which is on on Twitter as Dr Bill Winston 496 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: for those who may want to follow you. I know 497 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: you have an Instagram account to and I I think 498 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: that's Dr Bill as well, and Facebook pages, so please 499 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: do follow him there because he Oh and YouTube YouTube 500 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: You've got like some great amazings and I watch them 501 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: all the time, The Sunday Service, the whole deal. Now, 502 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: before you go, would you mind, would you mind just 503 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: give us a short prayer Thanksgiving Thanksgiving week, and there's 504 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: a lot of families that can't come together because of 505 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: the different laws of the landing, and certainly those who 506 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: can you know, there's no no distance in the spirit. 507 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: I understand that. Can you just give us a yeah, 508 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: let me just say this before I do pray, Just 509 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: letting people know God it's not forgotten you. Just by 510 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: your listening to this broadcast, a podcast, whatever you're listening to. 511 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm just let you know there's no coincidence that you're 512 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: listening to it. He's not forgotten you. And I'm here 513 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: to let you know, as is a spokesman for good 514 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: He's not forgotten you. Let's pray. Father, We thank you 515 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: so much for all those who are listening, and thank 516 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: you Lord for you giving us what we need to 517 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and being able to carry 518 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: out the work that you've assigned us to do or Lord, 519 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: to be able to have hope in our hearts. Father, 520 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: we thank you also for things that you've done for us, 521 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: even in the past, when you've carried us over. We 522 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: didn't even know you were carrying us, but you were 523 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: caring us and protecting us. Thank you for it. Now, 524 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: we're thanking you also for what we have today, thought, 525 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: what we've done, what we've accumulated, the things that we 526 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: have been blessed with. And now we also thank you 527 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: for what were you're going to do. The Lord you 528 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: said you only do great things, and we're expecting that 529 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: right now. So we give you and celebrate you and 530 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: the name of Jesus doing this time of thanksgiving. And 531 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: let you know, Lord will always give your name to praise. 532 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for it and Jesus. Amen. Hey man, Well, 533 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you, Thank you so. Dr 534 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: Bill Winston, thank you. I want to thank you for 535 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: joining the outline with you oswell and people will be 536 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: following there. Thank you so much, thank you, Thank you. 537 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: God black Play. I want to give a very special 538 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: thank you to my pastor, Dr Bill Winston for a 539 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: very very amazing interview, inspiring one which I hope everyone 540 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: will replay over and over again. If you're enjoying the show, 541 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: please leave us a review and rate us with five 542 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: stars on Apple Podcast. If you have any questions for me, 543 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: please email me at out loud at Gingerish Street sixty 544 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: dot com. Again, that's out loud at gingrich dot com 545 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: and I'll try to answer them in our future episodes. 546 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: You can also find me on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and 547 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: parlor at Giano Caldwell. 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