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Speaker 1: Motherfucking mini episode. Mini episode, motherfucking mini episode.

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Speaker 2: Niggas get shot every day. Be eat you some soup?

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Speaker 2: You tough right. Welcome little Mama's and gentiles alike to

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Speaker 2: another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told.

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Speaker 3: Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep into the

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Speaker 3: pockets of black conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 2: And we finally work to prove the conspiracies of you

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Speaker 2: the listener. It's a motherfucking mini episode.

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Speaker 3: It's one of them teeny tiny motherfuckers. Lu lu lulu,

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Speaker 3: little bitches.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Put it in your pocket,

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Speaker 2: take you home.

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Speaker 3: Come on, we we not gonna take up your whole

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Speaker 3: day with this shit just to hit just a little taste.

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Speaker 2: Come on, baby, first one's free.

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Speaker 3: You're not a crack thing yet. If you only listen

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Speaker 3: to the minis, you're not a crack fing.

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Speaker 2: You will not suck it from any episode.

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Speaker 3: No, you're like that Harvard professor who said, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I smoke a little crack every day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, every day. He's still a professor.

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Speaker 3: Is like, I do my job, well, I smoke a

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Speaker 3: little crack. You don't have to get addicted if you

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Speaker 3: don't want to. And I myself do not want to.

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Speaker 2: Here's a question, and I you know I have spoken

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Speaker 2: out on the subject before. Do you think there is

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Speaker 2: a level of hard drugs where they are a performance enhancement? Like,

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Speaker 2: do you think there's a level where it can be

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Speaker 2: contained and you can be a function and it makes

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Speaker 2: you better than you would be sober?

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest. I think the the the distance between

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Speaker 3: crack cocaine and that limitless pill.

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Speaker 4: Are it's it's tiny, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: I think it's like a taint worth of space.

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Speaker 3: Between those two powerful drugs.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I mean every drug, that's the thing. You feel amazing.

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Speaker 2: I feel like every drug you do, whether it's weed

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Speaker 2: or caffeine or alcohol or cocaine or whatever, it is,

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Speaker 2: every drug. The positive about it is that you feel

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Speaker 2: like you could be a better You see a better

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Speaker 3: Dog.

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Speaker 2: You take that molly in for a second, You're like,

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Speaker 2: I could just be like this.

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Speaker 3: People be on drugs and they they're thin, and they're

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Speaker 3: they're strong. Do you know what I mean? Crackheads are strong,

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Speaker 3: strong people.

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Speaker 2: It's a resilient. It's a resilient people.

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Speaker 3: They can they can move and shake, they'll talk to anybody.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, You ain't worried.

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Speaker 4: There's no shy crackheads. They're outgoing bunch.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen a crackhead looking down at his shoes

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Speaker 2: once they look you about when they talk to you.

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Speaker 4: You know, aw shucks, mister crackheads.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no you don't have to worry about old cracket. Now.

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Speaker 3: These motherfuckers believe in themselves and that that's a superpower

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Speaker 3: in and of itself.

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Speaker 2: Bro, how sad would you be if you got off

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Speaker 2: crack and you became like like your professional life got better,

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Speaker 2: but your personal life like went to ruins. You come

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Speaker 2: off you can't keep a woman all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you ain't got a girlfriend, had three of them, because

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Speaker 2: that's a strong love. That's a strong love.

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Speaker 4: The crack gave you that certain gen s koh.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: And uh and you just ain't got that no more.

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Speaker 3: And now and now bitch is living your life.

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Speaker 2: And that's said, that's like a that's like I would

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Speaker 2: I was on crack, Like what if I what if

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Speaker 2: I can't get any Now?

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Speaker 3: Now here's what I will say about crack. If there

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Speaker 3: it steals from you is discernment, right, that, like, part

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Speaker 3: of what gives you that genesa qua that you have

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Speaker 3: on crack is that you completely lack discernment and you'll

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Speaker 3: literally fuck anything that moves, and that I think has

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Speaker 3: to be some relief where your life. All Right, maybe

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Speaker 3: I'm not keeping love in my life, but I'm certainly

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Speaker 2: Right, God has gotta be tough. That's gotta be because

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Speaker 2: they're outside too, they see other people, like you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: They know the difference. Yeah, ain't no crack and being like, no,

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the closest approximation. That's tough, man.

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Speaker 2: It would be tough to get off crack and lose

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Speaker 2: have that naturally. And then because because you ever heard

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Speaker 2: the stories of like dudes becoming like in jail, he's

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he's running shit and

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Speaker 2: all that, and then only to come back to crack

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Speaker 2: and have their lives ruin when they get out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that transition is tragic of like somebody who, yeah,

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Speaker 3: who fully gets consumed by it in a way. That

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Speaker 3: then that's the tragedy of maybe all superpowers. That is

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Speaker 3: the Uncle Ben. With great power comes great responsibility. You

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Speaker 3: have to do a manageable amount of crack.

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Speaker 2: You can't the cracks the power, it's the power.

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Speaker 4: But you gotta be responsible, man, You just can't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to smoke crack all day, every day,

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Speaker 2: Maybe just do it to go pick up the kids, buddy,

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Speaker 2: before that interview, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: You got to do an interview coming up. Come on,

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Speaker 3: we're talking. We're talking sixteen dollars more an hour than

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Speaker 3: you were making up the old job. This is a big, big,

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Speaker 2: A little crack, come on, because you're out here. You

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Speaker 2: want to smoke crack to relax. That's selfish, that's.

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Speaker 3: So crazy, that's so crazy. Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Green Green Lantern takes the ring off when he's gonna

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Speaker 3: lounge by the pool exactly.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to keep the ring on all day. That's nuts.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that. You can't do that.

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Speaker 3: No, got a charge, baby, you gotta charge. It's got

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Speaker 3: a charge. Don't do it.

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Speaker 2: You need to know where you're at, because ultimately you

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Speaker 2: are not that you are that you are on crack

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Speaker 2: for better or worse, that's not you. You need to check

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Speaker 2: in with you sometimes.

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Speaker 3: That's true of every drug. That's not a personal attack. Crackheads.

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Speaker 3: We don't want you to feel like, oh, crack only

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Speaker 3: changed you know. Every drug changes you, and that's the

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Speaker 3: whole reason we take the shit. But you have to

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Speaker 3: do a manageable amount of it. And unfortunately, too many

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Speaker 3: of you are eager to become crackheads rather than crack thinkers.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to be a crackhead, You want to

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, brother, I'm only cracking spirit I.

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Speaker 3: Don't believe in crack. I'm spiritual with crack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so, I mean, if you're listening you so,

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Speaker 2: I think what we've learned here is like, if you're

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Speaker 2: an outgoing, vivacious, active member of whatever community you prescribed

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Speaker 3: Give it a little taste, think about a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Just said, just a daze. Why not on I I

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Speaker 3: definitely have heard people say that thing of like, Oh,

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Speaker 3: when I get older, I'm gonna like, I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna do a bunch of drugs, like hard fucking drugs

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Speaker 3: to just experience it before I die.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And I've always wondered how I feel about that. I'm

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Speaker 3: not one hundred percent sure that that. It feels like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: joy that it was meant to be. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Well, part of me feel likes maybe maybe maybe the

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Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying, Like, maybe that's the restriction

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Speaker 2: you need to be able to enjoy. Truthfully, I will say,

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Speaker 2: the way I feel about when people say that is like, whatever,

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Speaker 2: you're just trying to be like, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about it.

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Speaker 3: Before.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, I have tried enough drugs and had

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Speaker 2: the point of they are just drugs, man, It's like

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Speaker 2: nothing crazy going on. I mean, I guess you can

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Speaker 2: talking about my hallucinogens, Yeah, and you were saying, how

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Speaker 2: like you had that epiphany, but also it's that that

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Speaker 2: is something that you could have come to anyways. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember if we talked about that on the

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Speaker 3: I once did mushrooms with my buddy, and we were

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Speaker 3: how like everybody's body is completely different, and that the

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Speaker 2: That's what I've said. Man, There's been so many times

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Speaker 2: just to come and be like, oh yeah, family is

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Speaker 2: really important. It will make you happy. None of this

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Speaker 3: It's not something you couldn't have found just by like

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Speaker 3: reading more and communicating with with smarter people. It's it's

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Speaker 3: not this is all within reach for all of us.

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Speaker 3: We just we we want it quicker, I guess, or

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Speaker 3: we want it with less less vulnerability. Maybe that's a

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Speaker 2: I think that that's it. I think it's also a

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Speaker 2: lot easier to think that it is profound because it's

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Speaker 2: gonna trip real hard, you prepare for that, right Whereas

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Speaker 2: like if you're just taking a walk and you realize

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Speaker 2: that all bodies are different, that that doesn't seem as profound.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the issue with drugs a lot,

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Speaker 2: is that the in within the preparation. That's where you

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Speaker 2: and maybe that's the positivity of it, right, is that

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Speaker 3: And I do think to your point, it's not profoundness

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Speaker 3: simply for the simply for the title. I think people

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Speaker 3: are seeking more meaning in their lives all the time,

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Speaker 3: but I think it's embarrassing to seek them out in

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Speaker 3: traditional ways. Do you know what I mean? Like it's

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Speaker 3: what I think it's embarrassing for a lot of people

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Speaker 3: to learn as an adult, Do you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like where they go like I didn't know that and

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry I said that thing, or wasn't you know,

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Speaker 3: We're not presenting these conspiracies and being like I stand

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Speaker 3: They really just went on this insane journey of like y'all,

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Speaker 2: Now, I think that that's what happens when you get

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Speaker 3: Like it isn't even racial. I've had bad experiences where

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Speaker 6: My mama told me, do you drink orange juice?

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Speaker 3: Any juice?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I was just say you like a guy.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. Yeah, I hope somebody. I don't want to

438
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: go out sick. I'd rather somebody kill me. It's like,

439
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: you can't. I feel like if you I feel like,

440
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 2: if somebody kills you, they can't shoot on your name

441
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: too much unless you're going crazy, right, you know what

442
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean, if somebody kills you, it's ninety five percent

443
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 2: of the time, pretty tragic. Yeah.

444
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 3: No, That's what makes this this United Health CEO so

445
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 3: fascinating is almost everybody is like killed that nigga. Yeah,

446
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: I'm glad he's dead. Yeah, and that's crazy.

447
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. We were talking about it and my girl was like,

448
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: I you know, somebody probably loves him, And I was like,

449
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: I don't think that even negates it. No, I don't

450
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: think that even Matt. Yeah. Yeah, and that comes off

451
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: callous or whatever. Yeah, somebody does probably love him. That

452
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: was evil. That's evil, that's that's evil.

453
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 3: Motherfucker. Man.

454
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't. It's hard for me to find the

455
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: tragedy in it, which is dark. It seems like it's

456
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 2: hard for America to find the tragedy in it. Everybody

457
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: trying to suck Luigi's dick.

458
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: Get off his dick a little bit.

459
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: I don't know that guy. I don't remember the CEO's name.

460
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: I know Luigi Mangioni.

461
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: Man, Luigi is going crazy right now.

462
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: Olivia said, don't talk about my boyfriend like that. He's

463
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: going nuts. He's going I've never.

464
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: Seen this type of popularity.

465
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: I've never seen it that fast. Either it's like Ted

466
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: Bundy effect or what you know what I mean, Like

467
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: it's like immediate. He never got illinized.

468
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: No, And and it's it's across racial lines, you know

469
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: what I mean, it's across class lines in some weird

470
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: way where like even I saw like corporations, uh kind

471
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: of like tagging in with like a little joke. It's like, Yo,

472
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: you can't do that. It's bro, it is your friend.

473
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: This might be the most dystopian ship we've had happen

474
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: where you're like the biggest sign of it.

475
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: A fucking assassin and we're just like, yeah, that's how

476
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: bad shit is.

477
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: That's how bad she is.

478
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: We're like, yeah, he's the best guy. Yeah, that's what

479
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: everybody keeps saying, he's innocent, which maybe is.

480
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: I don't fucking know, but you don't know, you don't know.

481
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: To me, And look, I I do like that there

482
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 3: is a true fear around accountability as it relates to

483
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: the moral fucking awful things that are immoral things that

484
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: are happening around us, right, like the fact that this

485
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: assassination would lead to even a moment of regret for

486
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 3: some of these giant insurance companies and blah blah blah.

487
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 3: I love it. I think that's absolutely beautiful.

488
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: I don't regret as the word though, what do you mean?

489
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: I don't like regret to me, feels moral. I don't

490
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: think they're like morally feeling bad about what they No, no.

491
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: No, I don't think they regret it in a moral sense.

492
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: But I do think they regret making the choice that

493
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: will get them murdered. Right, you know, we took it.

494
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: That's too far. The fact that they would know even

495
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: for a second that that's too far. I like that

496
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: they have that feeling. That said, I don't think I'm

497
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: seeing anything about this Leid gentleman, and I do call

498
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: him a gentleman. I'm not saying anything about him that

499
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: doesn't feel like he's not gonna take it too far,

500
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: do you know.

501
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: What I mean?

502
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: Like, I think I think he nailed that first album,

503
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: but I think the sophomore album is gonna be a

504
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: little problematic.

505
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: It's still it's people. You gotta I think sometimes with

506
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: the situation like this, because he did something that we

507
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: all kind of view as good, it's still a crazy fit.

508
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: He's still a crazy.

509
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 7: He's a cold blooded killer, and I don't I don't

510
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 7: want to be driving and accidentally crash into him.

511
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 4: And get assassinated for it.

512
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what.

513
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, I don't want this to be I

514
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: don't need Batman, and this motherfucker is kind of trying

515
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 3: to be Batman and that's crazy.

516
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: You're right too, you don't need Batman. I need legislation. Yo,

517
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: what are we talking about?

518
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

519
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: We just like, because that's what happened, right, we skipped

520
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: the reasonable way to get us out of this. We

521
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: skipped that. We were like, no, no, no, we're not

522
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 2: going to change policy. We're not going to hold these

523
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: people to task. We just got to start killing them.

524
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: That seems like an answer, Like the fact that that

525
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: seems like an answer shows you how upside down we are.

526
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: Literally, and I don't mean this to be a you know, insensitive. Literally,

527
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: Luigi was feeling the same thing about murdering that CEO

528
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: as a nigga that choked out the white dude that

529
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: choked out that man on the train was feeling about

530
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: choking out the man on the train. They both thought

531
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: that they were the most correct in murdering another human being,

532
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: and only one of them is endearing personally, But that

533
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 3: doesn't make it not a crazy person.

534
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, truly, truly, truly. Okay, what do you think would

535
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: happen if he wasn't fine? Oh that's a good question.

536
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Y? Because it's also like the fine

537
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: thing is like it's interesting because it feels like I think,

538
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: I think it would be a really simple way to be.

539
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: Like women are pushing this for you know what I mean.

540
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: But it's like men are swayed by attractive men to.

541
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, right, Women want to fuck him,

542
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: men want to be him. He's got it all, I

543
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: got it. Yeah, the man is he's he's prime baby,

544
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: he's the fucking thriving.

545
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: But what if he was busted.

546
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: I don't know that it gets the same reaction if

547
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: he's ugly. I also don't know that it gets the

548
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: same reaction if he isn't this cartoonish Italian man?

549
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? I don't know if

550
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: we're going to get to the voicemail, because that's also

551
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: what I wanted to talk to you about specifically. Have

552
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: you been seeing people have been like I've seen it

553
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: on social media since this has happened, people are saying, Uh,

554
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: We're finally going to see whether or not Italians are white.

555
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen that.

556
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you feel about that?

557
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: It's the silliest thing I've ever heard in my life.

558
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: It's hilarious.

559
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: The fact that they have even been able to slightly

560
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: trick people into thinking that they're not white is phenomenal.

561
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: What a what I mean? I think there was a

562
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: time I just watched It's a Wonderful Life last night

563
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: while we put the Christmas tree up, and the they

564
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: go so hard on Italians in that movie. They call

565
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: them lazy garlic eaters.

566
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: Buddy, I'm not I'm not suggesting that the Italians didn't

567
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: have a rough go of it at some point in

568
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: this country. But I am suggesting that if we are

569
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: gauging whiteness by whether or not white people were mean

570
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: to you, then there's like six of them that are

571
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: truly white and the rest of them are just victims too,

572
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: do you.

573
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

574
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: Like, I'm not calling no Irish person a colored man.

575
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: Y'all are the whitest on the planet.

576
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: And I think the system of whiteness, or the power structure,

577
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: or whatever you want to call it, ensures that you

578
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: really only have to take that beat for a generation. Right,

579
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: It's a pyramid, and then you can and then you

580
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: can and then you then you're in.

581
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: You can go up the pyramid.

582
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: But you got a scheme. Yeah, you just knock out

583
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: the ones in your family who talk funny and the

584
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: rest of it can make their way in this world.

585
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: You start spreading some hateful language about your own people

586
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: and and you vote a little differently, and you can

587
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: find yourself into a white community, you know what I mean?

588
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: Like you, it is possible for y'all. We will never

589
00:33:59,440 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: get that.

590
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: Here's a question, because we do not get that. And

591
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: I think that the most conflicted of us are those

592
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: that you see trying to do that. I think those

593
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 2: people always seem like they want to fucking kill themselves.

594
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I think that's because everybody wants them dead.

595
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: I think it's literally because the world won't stop screaming

596
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: at them to fucking die. As they're like, God, damn,

597
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: this is eating at me.

598
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: I cannot have been worth the price of admission. But

599
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 2: I wonder do you think when when white people do that,

600
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: like talking about let's say a second generation situation or

601
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: first generation, even when they how conscious is that decision?

602
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 2: Do you think they view it as just trying to

603
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: be like success or do they think they understand that,

604
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: like I have to put this to bed so I

605
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 2: can fold into what this is.

606
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: I think it's both. I think it's it's not an

607
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: unconscious decision. I don't think that they think when they're

608
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: doing it folding in matters as much, because they truly

609
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: are saying like, well, I'm abandoning that culture and I'm

610
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 3: going to be a part of this one in a

611
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 3: way that like you know what I mean, Like they're like, well,

612
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: that is bad. I shouldn't be that way because now

613
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: I'm here and I recognize what it takes to fucking

614
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: be successful here, So I'm getting rid of all that

615
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: old goofy shit. And I think that that so they're

616
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 3: intertwined more than they are like a separate thought. Like

617
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: I think it's a true genuine feeling of being, like,

618
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: I want to succeed here, What does that require? Then

619
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: I will do it right?

620
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: Right, right right? And I mean I think that every

621
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: most everybody kind of comes up against that, right.

622
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: I think even if you remove not.

623
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 2: Like across color lines and stuff like that.

624
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you remove the racial element of it. I think

625
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: we we It is the reason that code switching exists

626
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: as a concept, right, Like we all employ some version

627
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: of it in our daily lives, our social lives, all

628
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 3: of the things. The person I was in high school

629
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: is very different than the person I was in college

630
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: versus the person I am now, And all of that

631
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: is like an adjusting to a society around me more

632
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: than it is me just being like, no, I'm this forever.

633
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: And those people are insane, right, because.

634
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: You also have to allow for growth in some way, right, Yeah,

635
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: at least in my life. Some of the worst people

636
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: I've known enough, people who were just like, nah, it's

637
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: just how I am.

638
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I locked in at thirteen and I Yeah,

639
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: it's like I cruise it ever since. Yeah, Like I

640
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 3: go back, what are you talking about?

641
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: That's not really that's not what this is for. I

642
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: don't think.

643
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 3: No, truly, it's embarrassing. There are people I grew up

644
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: with that I can I still feel that off of

645
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: them of being like, oh man, you just haven't you

646
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: haven't worked on this at all. You didn't even take

647
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: a minute to be like I could be different than this.

648
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: I think working on it is the way to frame it,

649
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I think that when you

650
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: frame it as like change or whatever, I think people

651
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: tend to think that, they tend to dismiss that. But

652
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: if you frame it as have you worked on this

653
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: thing to really change it? That I think is probably

654
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Speaker 2: the best way to look at that.

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Speaker 3: And I think it circles back to our original conversation

656
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Speaker 3: that it is extremely terrifying to learn to even approach

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Speaker 3: change as an adult. The literal working on it doesn't

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Speaker 3: even suggest that you will transform as a person and

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Speaker 3: just suggests like you're keeping that muscle awake, You're like

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Speaker 3: truly figuring out if you can you can shave a

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Speaker 3: little half second off of that that run and the

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Speaker 3: fact that most of us are so unwilling to even

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Speaker 3: do that is it's the tragedy of humanity.

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Speaker 2: I think it's also the beauty of humanity that that's possible. Right, you're,

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Speaker 2: if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're a lion,

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Speaker 2: you're just a lion forever. That's nice, I truly, And

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Speaker 2: then that's what separates, that's that's what that's the potential

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Speaker 2: of what we can do. That's why I think we're

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Speaker 2: so special.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was so nice.

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Speaker 5: Wow, Wow, that's cool man.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you hit that. That was really nice.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, damn, damn.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, we were supposed to do a voicemail

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Speaker 3: for this one.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think we I think somehow we we talked about

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Speaker 3: nothing and yet covered all the territory we needed to cover.

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Speaker 2: This hustle continues, never stop that grind.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's part of the problem, that that maybe that's

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Speaker 3: what we're missing to be more successful, is we got

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Speaker 3: to say something inspirational at the end.

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Speaker 2: You know, we need to. I think I think that

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Speaker 2: truly we need to rhyme more rhyme. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 2: think we need to convince people we can make them

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Speaker 2: better than they are now and not tell them that

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Speaker 2: they're okay. Now. We need to be like, you need

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Speaker 2: come to my mama told me university.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to sell the dream. We're not selling

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Speaker 2: the dream.

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Speaker 3: We I watched so many clips of podcasts of people

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Speaker 3: being like saying, maybe some of the most basic shit

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Speaker 3: I've ever heard in my life, and it'll like.

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Speaker 4: Cycle, it'll it'll go up.

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Speaker 3: Them numbers be going crazy just because one dude's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, for me, a black woman is a queen,

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Speaker 3: and it's like all right, man, Okay, So maybe we

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Speaker 3: just got to say that. Maybe that's what's missing. It

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Speaker 3: was like, hey, David, David, Hey, I know we had

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Speaker 3: a lot of laughs today, but I just want to

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Speaker 3: remind you God first.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Also, protect black boys and squirrels. It got ryme.

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Speaker 3: Black boys, black girls, and black squirrels.

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Speaker 2: That's how we get that's how we run the numbers

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Speaker 2: of being candid. You can only you can only get

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Speaker 2: rich being relatable for white boys.

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Speaker 3: You gotta say something inspirational or you or you gotta

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Speaker 3: really be nasty to a group of people in a

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Speaker 3: way that.

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Speaker 2: It's usually women. If you're looking at podcasts, it's like

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Speaker 2: you just say some real bad shit about women frequently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and then frame it as like, but

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Speaker 3: i'll help you if you would just listen to me,

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Speaker 3: I'll fix everything right. And you can really scam a

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Speaker 3: lot of people.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny how the basis of a lot of

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Speaker 2: that rhetoric just boils down to like, you're not as

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Speaker 2: good as me, You're not worth what I am. Let

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Speaker 2: me show you how to be Like I always listening

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Speaker 2: to that ship was always crazy to me because it's

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Speaker 2: like everybody's the main character in their story. What are

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Speaker 2: you talking about now?

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Speaker 3: The are you talking about? What do you think you're

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Speaker 3: you're teaching anybody?

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Speaker 2: This is coo And why would you believe this person

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Speaker 2: who's making money doing this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he has no He could not possibly care about you.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't even know you exist, and he never will.

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Speaker 3: He hopes to never have to bump into.

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Speaker 2: Rather not ever talk to you, but that email and

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Speaker 2: he'll tell other people that you helped him out so

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Speaker 2: he could keep getting that ship. We're doing this all wrong.

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Speaker 2: The more we talk about this, we are fucking We're

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Speaker 2: fucking it up.

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Speaker 3: No, man, we're bad at We're bad at podcasting, that's clear.

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Speaker 3: But but we're having a great time doing it.

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Speaker 2: Come on, that's good. Don't be surprised if I go

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Speaker 2: down on some kind of crypto scam. I gotta make

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Speaker 2: the dough somewhere. Man, you gotta do some evil to

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Speaker 2: get some money.

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Speaker 3: There's a new coin. It's called You're a Man from

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Speaker 3: the Congo coin.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's heard, but no, it's actually

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Speaker 2: Blackbird boy boy girl squirrel crowing.

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Speaker 3: I can't even say boy girl squirrel going uh yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: we we fucked up. But you know, tell the people

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Speaker 2: Cool guy jokes eighty seven. On Instagram, you can stream

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Speaker 2: It was hilarious.

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Speaker 3: It makes me laugh.

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Speaker 2: It's very funny, seo and all that shit.

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Speaker 4: Oh I really it does make you go.

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Speaker 3: That's a big swing.

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Speaker 2: I really play this whole thing like I'm very popular.

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Speaker 2: That's the way my whole ship my whole get down.

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh no, no matter, they love me so much.

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Speaker 3: It's you know me, Uh, David Silent g Bory.

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