Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Shannon Sharp. Welcome to a Club Sha Shay.
Speaker 1: I am your host, also the proprietor of Club Sha Shay.
Speaker 1: The guy that's stopping by for a drinking conversation today
Speaker 1: is two thousand and seventeen Offensive Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: He's been a Pro bowler every year he's been in
Speaker 1: the NFL. That's four times. He's a two time All Pro.
Speaker 1: He's the first running back to have five hundred receiving
Speaker 1: yards five hundred rushing yards in each of his first
Speaker 1: four seasons, and he's the second player in NFL history
Speaker 1: to score six touchdowns in a game. Oh man, Camara
Speaker 1: all my life, running all my life, sacond fights, hustle
Speaker 1: back price, one slice got the dice to swap all
Speaker 1: my life. I've been grinding all my life, rush all
Speaker 1: my life and running all my life and second fights,
Speaker 1: hustle back price, one slice got the dice to swap
Speaker 1: all my life. I've been grinding all my life. Is
Speaker 1: a camara, A camara, I say camaro, My mama say Kamara.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Come off your all right? Ro How
Speaker 1: you doing it? And I'm doing good? Man bless Let's
Speaker 1: let's go we're gonna talk about off the field before
Speaker 1: we get on the field. Now I read that you're
Speaker 1: you invested in killing Mike's He started something called Greenwood.
Speaker 1: Can you explain to the people that's listening what exactly
Speaker 1: is it? So, what we're doing with Greenwood, it's it's
Speaker 1: a basically a platform for banking for minorities. You know,
Speaker 1: we're we're talking in African American and Latino communities, Like
Speaker 1: I said, minorities and just giving them, uh access to banking.
Speaker 1: You know, we closed series they funding at forty million,
Speaker 1: and that's the largest in fintech history. So we're doing
Speaker 1: some good things, you know, our our community, and I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the black community. We haven't had access to
Speaker 1: quality loans and fair interest rates. And you know, this
Speaker 1: bank was created for black people, by black people. We
Speaker 1: right now we got about five hundred thousand people on
Speaker 1: the wait list to open the camps. About a days
Speaker 1: away from launching. We got some of the biggest banks
Speaker 1: invested with Chase, JP, Morgan, Bank of America, And I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's all about, you know, just loving the
Speaker 1: playing field, you know, just giving us an opportunity to
Speaker 1: be able to have access and to not only the
Speaker 1: banking platform, but have access to the knowledge, you know,
Speaker 1: to give our community knowledge to know what's going on
Speaker 1: and know what's going on with our money. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: think the best thing about Atlanta is that I can
Speaker 1: say being from Georgia, lived in Atlanta for a quarter century,
Speaker 1: is that a lot of times the power players and
Speaker 1: the professional athletes, they have no problem collaboring. And you know,
Speaker 1: you see what Killer Mike did and the black turnout
Speaker 1: for the voting, the vote get out to vote, and
Speaker 1: you see what they're doing in their communities. What made
Speaker 1: Why were you so interested? How did you meet up
Speaker 1: with Killer Mike and get involved in this program? Man?
Speaker 1: So I got involved with it actually through Ryan Glover
Speaker 1: and you Kill the Mic and all they all partner together.
Speaker 1: But obviously just want to do good in the community,
Speaker 1: and you know, being blessed and being able to have
Speaker 1: the financial success that we have. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: a no brainer to you know, be able to educate
Speaker 1: and provide a platform to our community, to help them
Speaker 1: be able to uplift and and elevate themselves, and to
Speaker 1: be able to have an opportunity to get to the
Speaker 1: level of success that we have. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: tons of talented people in our community that don't have
Speaker 1: access to the proper loans, you know. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: tons of people in our in our communities that don't
Speaker 1: have access to the knowledge to bank properly and and
Speaker 1: really don't don't know how the banking system works. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean basically, like higher circulation of the dollar and
Speaker 1: the black community will elevate the black black lives. So
Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to do. I mean, in our community,
Speaker 1: a dollar it circulates zero to one time, and that's
Speaker 1: it's sad, honestly. And a lot of that has to
Speaker 1: do the knowledge and a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: it has to do with the access and the opportunity,
Speaker 1: Like I said, with this platforms it's given our community
Speaker 1: is access and opportunity and equal opportunity to be able
Speaker 1: to do all those things. You mentioned that Killer Mike
Speaker 1: is a part of this. You said you got introduced
Speaker 1: to this program by Ryan Glover. Also former Atlanta Mirror
Speaker 1: and US Ambassador Andrew Young, and the young civil rights
Speaker 1: icon Bear in Atlanta is also a part of this program. Alvin,
Speaker 1: do you feel a sense of responsibility because you're the
Speaker 1: one of one of the ones that made it out
Speaker 1: and maybe help some of the less fortunates that didn't
Speaker 1: get that opportunity or doesn't have the opportunity to say
Speaker 1: go to a traditional bank and get and get the
Speaker 1: means to maybe start a business, or maybe buy a
Speaker 1: home or buy a car. Do you feel somewhat of
Speaker 1: a responsibility to give back, Yeah, I definitely do. I
Speaker 1: think I think it's important because you know, somebody, somebody
Speaker 1: like the younger generation that's coming up under me, and
Speaker 1: I'm young, but somebody looking at me like I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm a leader and I'm a role model. You know,
Speaker 1: they can they can learn so much, but it's all
Speaker 1: about you know, how I how I presented, and how
Speaker 1: I how I dish it out. So you know, something
Speaker 1: like this that actually has an impact on your life.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is your your financial security.
Speaker 1: The knowledge just to be able to know what you're
Speaker 1: doing within banking. And you know, when I was younger,
Speaker 1: I didn't really have a lot of access to a
Speaker 1: lot of this knowledge. It was given to me as
Speaker 1: it got older, and I didn't have a bank account
Speaker 1: when I was in high school. I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: until I got to college. You know, my first sophomore
Speaker 1: year college, that's when I first really got a bank
Speaker 1: account and you know, get into the league, and that's
Speaker 1: when I really got the knowledge of taxes and loans
Speaker 1: and interest rates and things like that. So this platform
Speaker 1: is to give to and hour, you know, everyone, not
Speaker 1: only just younger people, but everyone, and you know, show
Speaker 1: them that it is accessible. It is uh possible to
Speaker 1: be able to you know, have access to these things. Man,
Speaker 1: It's it's important you also have another endeavor. You all
Speaker 1: open the juice bar? And uh in New Orleans? Why
Speaker 1: juice bar? And uh, what type of you and what
Speaker 1: type of atmosphere do you do? People party? You know
Speaker 1: because you remember that the dactory bars that I know,
Speaker 1: they're like a hang out spot. You know, you don't
Speaker 1: go get your drink and leave. You get your drink
Speaker 1: and stay and you you know, you shoot pool or
Speaker 1: you you hang out with your friends, you grab a
Speaker 1: bite to eat. So is it that type of juice bar? Yeah? Now,
Speaker 1: so it's cold Press juice man. And I've been hassitate
Speaker 1: about juice and since I mean I was in college.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's your health. Your health is your wealth.
Speaker 1: So you know, once I got so you're a big user. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually am. Okay, yeah, So once I got the
Speaker 1: opportunity to to get into this, man, it was no brainer.
Speaker 1: My partner Asketon Cree he you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: presented this this idea to me. He already had it going.
Speaker 1: It already was kind of running, and he was just like, man,
Speaker 1: if you want to be involved, I'm giving you, you know,
Speaker 1: green light. You know, it's it's you can go as
Speaker 1: far as you want to go with it, or you know,
Speaker 1: you can kind of just you know, come in and
Speaker 1: just watch and learn. And I'm like, yo, if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be involved, I'm going one hundred percent. So you know,
Speaker 1: now I'm I'm the owner of part of the brand.
Speaker 1: So it's huge. I mean, and the atmosphere that that
Speaker 1: I want to create an area is you know, the
Speaker 1: second atmosphere you was talking about. But what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so the story that I do, I'm silt it from
Speaker 1: the ground up, drew the plans and cut the concrete,
Speaker 1: digging in, digging in the ground, finding pipes like literally
Speaker 1: like you know, put my my sweat and you know,
Speaker 1: my time into it because you know, I'm passionate about
Speaker 1: whatever I'm involved and if I'm not, then I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it. So just no, I was gonna ask you
Speaker 1: what what got you in the juice? What what? And
Speaker 1: what made you start juicing? You see, you've been a
Speaker 1: big juicer. You started juicing in college, which is red
Speaker 1: because normally guys, you know, you just go to the
Speaker 1: training table, you can eat as much as you want
Speaker 1: and juicing. Obviously there was no juicing what I was
Speaker 1: going on or is used apple juice, but that was
Speaker 1: out of a car nor a jug. What made you
Speaker 1: start to get into juicing? Man? So I really just
Speaker 1: kind of did my own research on it, okay, and
Speaker 1: I was just figuring out like just new ways to,
Speaker 1: you know, get an edge, like just be more healthy,
Speaker 1: you know, because I mean it's easy to just eat
Speaker 1: whatever and drink whatever. And you know we're young. It's like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, I'll be good. Like I'm I'll still
Speaker 1: be able to I can stay up all night and
Speaker 1: go to this five m workout and get it in
Speaker 1: and go to class and keep running like I'm running
Speaker 1: on fumes. But I'll be all right. But I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I can't do that. I gotta find a different route,
Speaker 1: you know. So you know, I kind of did some research.
Speaker 1: I was doing some research in my free time, and
Speaker 1: you know, juicing kept coming up. Juicing like you know,
Speaker 1: carriage celery and cold press and all the nutrients that
Speaker 1: come from it. You know that a couple of the
Speaker 1: juice is like pounds of protein and producing things like this.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I can drink it instead of
Speaker 1: eating it, but still still eat, you know, still eat
Speaker 1: right and then get the juice is just a bonus.
Speaker 1: So you know, that's I've always been on into it
Speaker 1: and I've kind of tried to stick to it. So
Speaker 1: the juice bar was just a plus. I'm like, now
Speaker 1: I don't even gotta I don't even gotta go pay
Speaker 1: for juice. I gotta hold juice bar. Yeah. I like
Speaker 1: using also, but the clean up it's what I don't like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know That's what I got to st production for me.
Speaker 1: So in the process of juicing, do you still eat meat?
Speaker 1: Are you you know, are you pescetarian or you do
Speaker 1: you only eat like fish, seafood? Do you eat red meat?
Speaker 1: Do you not eat pork? So? What does what does
Speaker 1: the Abacamara diet consists of man. So I haven't eating
Speaker 1: pork since eighth grade red meat. I don't eat eat
Speaker 1: a lot of I actually went vegan, uh like a
Speaker 1: year and a half ago. I went vegan and kind
Speaker 1: of played with the vegan and plant based like pescetarian lifestyle,
Speaker 1: just kind of going jumping back and forth from between
Speaker 1: vegan and you know, pescyterian and just staying kind of
Speaker 1: plant based. And you know, I mean it makes a difference.
Speaker 1: You know, my body is like your body is your temple.
Speaker 1: And then especially you know, I'm saying that you played,
Speaker 1: you gotta take care of your body. You gotta fuel
Speaker 1: it right, you gotta treat it right. So you know,
Speaker 1: I just made sure I was kind of getting the
Speaker 1: right balance, so you know what I needed. So you know,
Speaker 1: when I'm training, I'm pretty much plant basing and keep
Speaker 1: everything clean, uh, pretty vegan for for for the most part.
Speaker 1: And I'll switch it up every now and then, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'll have some fish or some you know,
Speaker 1: some seafood and things like that. Rarely eat meat. But
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't say I'm super strict on it,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm pretty I'm pret disciplined. Yeah, but so,
Speaker 1: but how did your body feel? Because I remember Arian
Speaker 1: Foster had a great career and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he switched up and we went totally vegan, and
Speaker 1: he like crashed and burned. He was never the same
Speaker 1: player that he was. And so I'm wondering with the
Speaker 1: physicality in which you play. You're running back. Now, if
Speaker 1: you're a kicker, a punter, yeah you can do that,
Speaker 1: maybe even a quarterback. But with the kind of pounding
Speaker 1: that you take, that you're touching the ball twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five times a game, how does that work for you
Speaker 1: taking that kind of pounding. Yeah, I mean I was
Speaker 1: big in last year. Okay, I'll see it. So I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't see I felt great as far as the
Speaker 1: load and everything, I felt good. I was fine. I
Speaker 1: don't think it really if you do it right, you know,
Speaker 1: I think the benefits outwigh like the risk of it.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people, like you just said
Speaker 1: with Arian, a lot of people talk about, you know, well,
Speaker 1: if you go vegan, you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: downsides to it. You don't get the proper But I
Speaker 1: think he would totally vegan album. I think he just
Speaker 1: he cut meat out all together, and he was just
Speaker 1: eating plants and you know, the seeds and things of
Speaker 1: that nature. I think you gotta have some animal protein.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying it needs to be a turkey
Speaker 1: or chicken or for a cow or a hog, but
Speaker 1: you need some protein. You need something solid if you're
Speaker 1: gonna take that kind of collision on a weekly basis. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the first I think three or four games, I
Speaker 1: was completely vegan. Uh huh fine. And then I kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, just personally, not not like I didn't feel like,
Speaker 1: oh I need to eat some meat, but I was like,
Speaker 1: I'll just mixing some fish here and there and some
Speaker 1: strip like seafood and just get some just get some
Speaker 1: meat in justa and you know, I was still juicing
Speaker 1: and I had my supplements on the side. So I
Speaker 1: felt good man, and I'm you know, I'm back training.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick to the script kind of what I've
Speaker 1: been doing. What does the album Camaro workout? What does
Speaker 1: that consist? Though? So how do you break it up?
Speaker 1: I mean I was a run in the morning, left
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, things of that nature. So how do
Speaker 1: you split your training up? Yeah? So meat, shoot, when
Speaker 1: I get back in training. I'm up at four thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning every day, so I run and lift
Speaker 1: in the morning. Okay, take a little break and get back,
Speaker 1: eat some breakfast. Uh by eight o'clock. By eight o'clock,
Speaker 1: eight thirty, I'm with my on my second session, I'm
Speaker 1: with my gouts reef all those videos that go viral
Speaker 1: and balanced and doing things like that there from eight
Speaker 1: thirty nine o'clock to probably about noon, you know, just
Speaker 1: fine tuning, you know, just core stability, balanced handout, coordination,
Speaker 1: just you know, tuning up there, all the little things
Speaker 1: you know that you know a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: really focus on. That's what I'm That's what I'm into.
Speaker 1: So you know, that's kind of like my day. I'm
Speaker 1: done about one o'clock one thirty every day and you know,
Speaker 1: whatever else I gotta do, take care of my body,
Speaker 1: whether it's treatments, needles or massage anything. I just kind
Speaker 1: of relaxing, you know, that's every day for me. Well,
Speaker 1: as I was transitioning away from football, the Hyperberry chamber,
Speaker 1: the high altitude training, the tent that you know, guys
Speaker 1: started buying those machines. Uh, do you believe in those
Speaker 1: do you have one of those? How much time do
Speaker 1: you spend it if you do have it? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: actually haven't really gotten into the hyperberry chamber thing, but
Speaker 1: you know, all the all the other you know, norma
Speaker 1: techs and and game readies. I'm real into that. I
Speaker 1: mean recovery. You gotta recover. Once you break down, you
Speaker 1: gotta recover. And right it's and I tell this to
Speaker 1: people during the season and like, man, how your body feels.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, it feels. It feels good. I didn't
Speaker 1: got it back to It's a race to get to
Speaker 1: as close to one hundred percent as you can every
Speaker 1: every every week. You know, it's a long season, and
Speaker 1: you know, uh, it's sometimes it's not about chalent. It's
Speaker 1: about who who's more healthy, right, being available, And I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's about who's healthier. And Guy's got
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends they're like they can't really
Speaker 1: conception realize it. And I'm like, man, I'm telling you this.
Speaker 1: It's a grind, so you gotta take care of your body.
Speaker 1: So I've been looking into I've been OK, yeah, Martin,
Speaker 1: trust me, trust man. They worked. I wish I would
Speaker 1: have had the knowledge at the end of my career
Speaker 1: I had at the beginning to spend that kind of
Speaker 1: time and understanding because training wasn't it's so specialized now,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like that when I got started. It started
Speaker 1: to taper towards that. But how soon after the game
Speaker 1: is over do you start preparing your body for the
Speaker 1: next week. Oh man, it's it's immediate, Like, so I
Speaker 1: get done, you know, depending on what time we get done,
Speaker 1: I might get some work after the game, just to
Speaker 1: get a head start. You know, we off days and
Speaker 1: Tuesdays and Mondays. Usually we're off when we when we win.
Speaker 1: So I got my my the guy that comes in
Speaker 1: and does my body work, he's there. He's there Sunday Monday.
Speaker 1: So if it's anything any attention that I have anywhere
Speaker 1: on my body, so I might get it. I might
Speaker 1: hit him Sunday night like, hey, let's get in here
Speaker 1: and you know, my my feet or you know, my
Speaker 1: hamstring was a little tight from last game, or let's
Speaker 1: you know, let's get a good stretch in a kind
Speaker 1: of like a flush and then Monday we'll hit it
Speaker 1: hard and you know, fine tune some of the kinks
Speaker 1: that we need to get right before we get back
Speaker 1: started for the week. But I mean it's if you
Speaker 1: if you do it right, I mean, you know, you
Speaker 1: put yourself in the best position to be you know,
Speaker 1: successful and be active on Sunday. Are you a big
Speaker 1: cold cold bath cold to up guy? Because after the game,
Speaker 1: especially at home, not so much on the road, but
Speaker 1: we would do it something on the road. We would
Speaker 1: get as soon as the game was over, we go
Speaker 1: get into the cold tank. Yeah. I don't do it
Speaker 1: right after the game. I do. I think I'm more
Speaker 1: I'm more into that like during the week and like
Speaker 1: especially in camp. Oh yeah, it's a mush you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know it's I'm really on it. During
Speaker 1: the season, I do it like kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: as as needed. After the game's not so much, but
Speaker 1: I mean it helps, it works, So you know, I
Speaker 1: do it. Your love or Nascar? You you were able
Speaker 1: to responsor you gotta your emblem, your logo from your
Speaker 1: your juice bar on the NAS on the North NASCAR
Speaker 1: an Affinity series whether the love of Nascar. And I
Speaker 1: tell people this, I'm from Georgia and I from We're
Speaker 1: both from Georgia. You're from Northcross I'm from South Georgia,
Speaker 1: but NASCAR used to be big, used to be big
Speaker 1: because you couldn't go to a corner store without seeing
Speaker 1: a toy, a scale car, or a band down or
Speaker 1: something Nascar on it. Yeah, I mean so for me,
Speaker 1: it kind of just started, like during the quarantine with this,
Speaker 1: with the pandemic going on. And I've always seen NASCAR,
Speaker 1: you know, you flipped through the channels and you might
Speaker 1: see a race and you're just like, car's going to circles.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, you know, I'm just getting done
Speaker 1: working out. I'm sitting at the house. I'm like, let
Speaker 1: me see what's up with this NASCAR, Like, let me
Speaker 1: just watch it and really try to understand it. And
Speaker 1: I'm watching and I'm hearing everything they're talking about it,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, it's more to it than just
Speaker 1: driving around this tracks. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: You got a fart of the technicians telling you absolutely
Speaker 1: to conserve you uh huh. So I'm in Miami, I'm like,
Speaker 1: let me see if it's a race, like what race
Speaker 1: tracks this year? Let me see if it's a race.
Speaker 1: And it just so happened that there was a race
Speaker 1: two days. You know it was it was a Tuesday
Speaker 1: at Homestead. It was maybe Tuesday. I think it was
Speaker 1: a race on Thursday or something, or it was a
Speaker 1: Thursday and it was a race on Saturday. So I
Speaker 1: hit up NASCAR. I'm just like, let me see, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna see if I can get to the race. Let
Speaker 1: me go to the race. So I go to the racing.
Speaker 1: After that, I was hooked. I'm like, Yo, this is serious. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I got a chance to meet with Steve
Speaker 1: Phelps who was the president, and you know, I sat
Speaker 1: in the box and you know, talk to you know,
Speaker 1: all the personnel, and you know Bubba obviously with everything
Speaker 1: that he was going through. I knew Bubba from Tennessee
Speaker 1: when I was at the University of Tennessee, and you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of you know what he was going through.
Speaker 1: I definitely wanted to go for that reason also, and
Speaker 1: you know, I just kind of got it, got my
Speaker 1: intro into it, and it was accelerated, and you know,
Speaker 1: I ain't looked back since. Are you surprised? The thing
Speaker 1: that I tell people that's never been to a NASCAR
Speaker 1: you don't realize how fast the cars are going and
Speaker 1: how close they actually are. TV doesn't do it justice now.
Speaker 1: TV don't do it justice at all. So that's why
Speaker 1: I like, even now people still ask me, like, man,
Speaker 1: you really like going to the races. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: if you want to go to a race, I will
Speaker 1: take you to a race with me. Just let me
Speaker 1: know if you guys a free time, because you, like
Speaker 1: you said, you really don't know until you go. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I went to I went to uh where I go?
Speaker 1: I went to Bristol and I stood right on the
Speaker 1: on the wall right you know what I'm saying, right
Speaker 1: right down on the tracker and the field that breeze
Speaker 1: when they come to feel that breze when they can
Speaker 1: come by, Yeah, you feel like your heart about to
Speaker 1: talk about it's crazy and how these dudes is really skilled,
Speaker 1: Like they got real talent. Man, It's not just driving
Speaker 1: around the track. These dudes is really like really really
Speaker 1: specializing on what they're doing. And it's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: beauty in it, like like any sport. Yeah, but because
Speaker 1: they the speed if the speed limit is seventy seventy
Speaker 1: seventy five, you figured they're going double that and they're
Speaker 1: like four inches apart and they're free, they might be
Speaker 1: three four wide doing that exactly. So, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's so many components to the sport and it's like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I couldn't at first, I couldn't keep up.
Speaker 1: It's slowing down for me, but it's still so much
Speaker 1: I'm still learning. Your season, obviously it didn't go to
Speaker 1: way you you would hope. You got off to such
Speaker 1: a great start. You guys were playing well. What happened?
Speaker 1: What happened in that Tampa game? Because up until then,
Speaker 1: you know, Drew got injured. We're talking about Drew a
Speaker 1: little bit, But up until then, you had guys that
Speaker 1: were playing really well. You got you know, you got Tampa,
Speaker 1: you had blown them out, you had beaten them both time.
Speaker 1: The second time you had just meant completely taken them apart,
Speaker 1: and you get them back in your building for the
Speaker 1: divisional round. What went wrong? Yeah, I think, and you
Speaker 1: know more than anyone saying, and I think when one
Speaker 1: team is more prepared than the other, I mean it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, what can you do? You know, we
Speaker 1: came in, we felt good, h and everybody talks about it.
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to beat the team it's it's
Speaker 1: already hard to be the team once. It's hard to
Speaker 1: beat the team. It's hard to be the team twice.
Speaker 1: It's almost impossible to be the team three times. Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. Like you know, I don't think we were
Speaker 1: really concerned with that. It's just man like, I just
Speaker 1: I really I couldn't even tell you, man, we was
Speaker 1: we felt good and we thought we were period. And
Speaker 1: I just turned up that they were more prepared than us,
Speaker 1: and and I guess they had a better plan, and
Speaker 1: I guess knew what they were knew what they were
Speaker 1: doing in that in that instance, you said better prepared,
Speaker 1: you guys, I mean, Sean Payton is as good as
Speaker 1: it comes. The exs and those offensively you guys, you
Speaker 1: know you do what you do. You know, you try
Speaker 1: to push the ball down the field, you get play action,
Speaker 1: they try to get you in space on those linebackers.
Speaker 1: What was so different? Because you know, obviously, and I've
Speaker 1: always felt this way out and I've always felt the
Speaker 1: team that lost has an advantage over the team that
Speaker 1: won because their coaches can tell them will see, this
Speaker 1: is why we lost the game. But when you win,
Speaker 1: what do you correct? We scored thirty eight. We went
Speaker 1: up and down the field, we blew them out. So
Speaker 1: what actually are we correcting? And sometimes I think the
Speaker 1: winning teams you take that for granted, we gonna show
Speaker 1: we just got their number, and the team that lost, like, no,
Speaker 1: you don't. We just make a correction here or there
Speaker 1: and then you get that outcome. Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: should for one of it it was. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: slouch that we lost to. You know, those guys are
Speaker 1: those guys over there there, they did exactly, you know,
Speaker 1: especially I mean they Bruce and Tom and those guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, they definitely professionals and they own right and they,
Speaker 1: like you said, when the team loses, you go back
Speaker 1: in that room and it's dark and you're figuring it out,
Speaker 1: like what what, why did we lose? And how can
Speaker 1: we prevent losing again? And I think they they figured
Speaker 1: out what it was and kind of just you know,
Speaker 1: they just went all in Bucks defense. How good was
Speaker 1: the Bucks defense the third time around as opposed to
Speaker 1: the first two times around? Yeah, saying they was tired
Speaker 1: of getting their ass wood literally try to getting their
Speaker 1: ass wood. And they played like it, you know, they
Speaker 1: played like a defense that was like, hey, we talked
Speaker 1: about this all week, and we talked about not letting
Speaker 1: it happen. It's not gonna happen, you know, respect of
Speaker 1: those dudes, because I mean, it wasn't It wasn't like
Speaker 1: they were sorry. The first two times we played them,
Speaker 1: we just had had that numbered. But I mean that
Speaker 1: third time around, they made sure they were like, yo,
Speaker 1: everything that they were doing to us before is not
Speaker 1: gonna happen again. And they had a plan and they
Speaker 1: executed it. It was about execution with them, and they executed.
Speaker 1: They planned to a team. You played your first four career,
Speaker 1: your first four years of your career, you played with
Speaker 1: arguably one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: We know what he meant to that community, We know
Speaker 1: what he meant to the city, the city of New Orleans,
Speaker 1: and we know what he meant to that organization. How
Speaker 1: different is it gonna be moving forward with possibly Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill or Jameis Winston as your starting quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 1: you just talked about all those things. I mean, the community,
Speaker 1: the organization. I mean, well he did for a football period.
Speaker 1: Drew's like he's he's a guy He's not a guy
Speaker 1: that you can replace, if it makes sense. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you replaced him at the position. But Drew is
Speaker 1: the type of person where like his presence is gonna
Speaker 1: be missed. You know, it's already different than we're not
Speaker 1: even in the in the facility right now, and I
Speaker 1: just know that him not being there is gonna be
Speaker 1: weird for all of us. But you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: Drew left his mark. I mean all of us. I
Speaker 1: think he left his mark on me maybe. Uh, he
Speaker 1: lended a piece of himself to me and helped make
Speaker 1: me the player that I am right now. I mean
Speaker 1: he guided me through my first four years of the
Speaker 1: league then, you know, allowed me to be able to
Speaker 1: be the player that I am and be expressive and
Speaker 1: you know, be comfortable in every situation, whether we're up
Speaker 1: down to injury. He helped me like anything. So that's
Speaker 1: the guy that you can't replace. But you know, like
Speaker 1: you said, Jamison Chason, those two guys, I mean, they've
Speaker 1: they've been They've gained some respect in their own right. Uh.
Speaker 1: Jamison led a Tampa team when he was before he
Speaker 1: got to New Orleans. Tasm has been a part of
Speaker 1: our offense for the past four years, and you know
Speaker 1: when his number is called, he does what he's supposed
Speaker 1: to do. So it's just gonna be a battle between
Speaker 1: those two to see who who then take them. When
Speaker 1: you watch Drew prepared first then last out, the meticulousness,
Speaker 1: the fine tuning of what he does, how did that
Speaker 1: help you in your game? Man? From day one when
Speaker 1: I stepped into the last game of this season this year,
Speaker 1: Drew prepared every single day like it was a game.
Speaker 1: I watched this man come in. When I come in
Speaker 1: the building, he's in there watching field. He didn eight breakfast,
Speaker 1: he and did everything like I've never seen somebody be
Speaker 1: so dedicated, And like sometimes I feel I think about
Speaker 1: it and I'm like, damn, he more dedicated to me.
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, damn Reade, And I'm like I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna if I'm gonna be if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: contribute to a man that is so dedicated and so
Speaker 1: fine tuned and so locked in, then what am I
Speaker 1: gonna have? What am I gonna have to do? Like?
Speaker 1: What what? How responsible? How responsible? Boy? Am I gonna
Speaker 1: have to be? Right? And you know that kind of
Speaker 1: like molding my mindset when I got to from my
Speaker 1: rookie year to now, it's like, Okay, well Drew's ten
Speaker 1: steps ahead, I gotta be ten steps ahead. And once
Speaker 1: I'm ten steps ahead, Drew's gonna be another ten steps
Speaker 1: ahead of me. But at least I'll be out shoot.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to like walk in his footsteps like
Speaker 1: a little kid, right, just trying to be on the
Speaker 1: same page as him, because I know he's prepared for
Speaker 1: every situation. I know he's he's he's played it over
Speaker 1: in his head. He's made a plan for it, anything
Speaker 1: that can possibly have like and I've seen this guy
Speaker 1: draw stuff up in the dirt and be dead on
Speaker 1: and spot on, and you know, it's like a testament
Speaker 1: that how he prepares because every day is like I'm
Speaker 1: playing in the super Bowl, and I'm I'm playing for
Speaker 1: my kids, my family, my city, like everything. I've never
Speaker 1: seen somebody so like home then and locked in. I
Speaker 1: think that is the blessing that you have, especially when
Speaker 1: you're dealing with a quarterback. Your quarterback is great. He
Speaker 1: will pull or push you the greatness because you see
Speaker 1: how he prepares, and you say, well, if he's prepared
Speaker 1: like that what's expected of me. How can I give
Speaker 1: less than him? Yeah, exactly, And I think I think
Speaker 1: that that helped a lot of guys on our team.
Speaker 1: That helped me tremendously. I mean, obviously a lot of
Speaker 1: people see the success I've had and they're like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: you've done this, You've done that. I'm like, man, wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, it's dudes over here. That's really like clapping
Speaker 1: for them, like the Sean Paytons and the Drew Breeses
Speaker 1: and you know these ted Gains that you know that
Speaker 1: I played with the mark ingram like guys like that,
Speaker 1: they're in that category that you know are selfless and
Speaker 1: prepare and do what they're supposed to do. Obviously, Drew,
Speaker 1: I think it's up here, and I think all those
Speaker 1: guys would agree that he's an anomaly, like he stands
Speaker 1: alone in that category. Well, you know, only one guy
Speaker 1: can start either taste him with Jamos. Both of these
Speaker 1: guys are coming back. Obviously, you can't say you got
Speaker 1: a preference, But what did your gut tell you? Who
Speaker 1: do you think is gonna win this job? Because Sean
Speaker 1: Payton said the job is up for graphs, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not annoying anyone. We're gonna have a camp, We're
Speaker 1: gonna have a competition and the best man win. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: that doesn't tell me anything. Right now, I think Jamis
Speaker 1: would it be in his second year in the program.
Speaker 1: I think he's more comfortable. I mean, anytime they see
Speaker 1: a person year somewhere, you know you're trying to figure
Speaker 1: it out, figure out personalities, figure out playbook, figure out coaches,
Speaker 1: just you know, find your land and carve out your land.
Speaker 1: And one thing about Jamis, I think he's very comfortable
Speaker 1: with who he is. He knows who is and he's
Speaker 1: very comfortable with his abilities. He knows what his strengths
Speaker 1: and weaknesses are. And I mean, like I said before,
Speaker 1: once you learn what you what you're supposed to be doing,
Speaker 1: why are you're supposed to be doing it? I think
Speaker 1: that allows everything else to you know, add on, to
Speaker 1: be in addition to your game. So Jamie's year two,
Speaker 1: I think he'll be more comfortable than he'll be able
Speaker 1: to you know, showcase exactly. But you know what his
Speaker 1: what his body and work is. Tasom, We've seen Taysom,
Speaker 1: We've seen tast some play we've had a taste and
Speaker 1: tast him not only from the past three years that
Speaker 1: he's been on our team contributing, but you know this
Speaker 1: year actually being the leader and being being the starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know, and I think the same thing goes for
Speaker 1: takes him. He knows what his strengths and weaknesses are.
Speaker 1: He's a competitor. I think he's a leader also. So
Speaker 1: like exactly what Sean said, I think is the statement
Speaker 1: that's true. It's really up for grabs. So I think
Speaker 1: it's just gonna come down to who really steps up
Speaker 1: and takes a hold of the team as a whole, because,
Speaker 1: like I said, Drew is a void that I don't
Speaker 1: think is gonna be It's not easy to be filled.
Speaker 1: I don't think it nobody. There will never be another
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. But you know, whoever is the most comfortable
Speaker 1: in being themselves and having finding their own way to
Speaker 1: take hold of the team and embrace their role as
Speaker 1: the new quarterback of the New Orleans States, I think
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna win the quarterback better talk to me.
Speaker 1: You're standing on the sideline and this division around the
Speaker 1: playoff from Tampa. But it's just not Tampa. It's Tom
Speaker 1: Brady Yep. It's the aura of Tom Brady knowing that, man,
Speaker 1: what joke, don't lose in these spots right here. So
Speaker 1: going into the game, when you you're watching, you're standing
Speaker 1: on the sideline and you're watching him do what he does.
Speaker 1: What's going through your mind. It's Tom Brady and he
Speaker 1: ready and he's not playing. So we got to bring
Speaker 1: our like our a game. We have to, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's kind of what they were thinking
Speaker 1: on the other sideline, like all right, well, you know
Speaker 1: Drew can win. He can he can do what he
Speaker 1: gotta do, so we gotta bring an a game. But
Speaker 1: you know Tom, I mean I watch Tom from when
Speaker 1: I was growing up to being in the league my
Speaker 1: rookie year I played against him and watch it and
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, it's dude, like you can
Speaker 1: do whatever he wants, do whatever they want with the
Speaker 1: bub but especially in that situation, I mean, you up,
Speaker 1: you in a divisional game against one of the arguably
Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks and that have ever played
Speaker 1: the game, and that has shown year and the year
Speaker 1: out why he's he has how many rings he has,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's just one of those things where
Speaker 1: you know what you're planning, you know what you're up against,
Speaker 1: so you know you knows any mistake that's made, you
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be detrimental to the outcome that you want.
Speaker 1: Are you surprised that he's playing this well, this long?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's about to be year twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two and here he is, just coming off of Super
Speaker 1: Bowl seven, super Bowl win. I mean, I mean you're like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm playing. Can you imagine yourself bid if good as
Speaker 1: you are right now seventeen years from now. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I gotta talk. I gotta talk to him.
Speaker 1: I've seen, I've seen what Drew did. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I got a good idea, like I might got I
Speaker 1: might got twenty in me. But I might have to
Speaker 1: talk to time him to get a secret too, because
Speaker 1: and that dude he got to figure it out. He's playing.
Speaker 1: I think running back. I don't know how, but I
Speaker 1: think running back they take two many. They don't protect
Speaker 1: you like to protect the quarterback. I might have to.
Speaker 1: I might have I might have to switch the slide
Speaker 1: or something like right when my running back need to
Speaker 1: run out, I might have to be like I could
Speaker 1: play a little slide ya. I got you. Okay, you
Speaker 1: grew up. You grew up in it. Like I said,
Speaker 1: you grew up in the Atlanta era, Norcross you always okay,
Speaker 1: because that's how we do. That's how we do. You know,
Speaker 1: if anybody looks I'm from Atlanta, you might be from US.
Speaker 1: Uh got to hospital, he was born out and everything.
Speaker 1: I'm a Grady baby all the way, and you're a
Speaker 1: Grady baby. Okay, okay, so you really from the A.
Speaker 1: You repping the air hard. Your senior year, you do
Speaker 1: what you did? You win the state title? What is
Speaker 1: the process? Okay? You had every college in the country warning,
Speaker 1: Alan Camaro, how did you decide that you were going
Speaker 1: to the University of Alabama knowing that they're probably three,
Speaker 1: four or five other five stars crews that's going there
Speaker 1: to play your position. I was looking at that time.
Speaker 1: I was looking at it. I said, man, this is
Speaker 1: where the best running backs go in in that year
Speaker 1: two than thirteen. I'm just talking about that's the history
Speaker 1: the Bamber like for running backs. I was like, that's
Speaker 1: where the best running back will go twos, oun and thirteen.
Speaker 1: The best running backs in my class are going there.
Speaker 1: I was like, shoo, I'm about to go and I'm
Speaker 1: about to do so well. I'm the best running back too.
Speaker 1: But at the time I'm I'm seventeen years old. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I say ten me to my ball, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm about to go and bust this open, not thinking
Speaker 1: it's seven of us in this room. It's one football,
Speaker 1: it's ten games. What we're gonna do, you know? So
Speaker 1: we get there and it's me, tyron Zones, Alti Tenpenny
Speaker 1: rest in peace to him. That's my brother, Alti Tenpenny
Speaker 1: and and Derek Henry all in the same class, not
Speaker 1: to mention t J Yelden, Kenyan, Drake Johnston Failer and
Speaker 1: d Hart that's already there. So we get in the room,
Speaker 1: we get to the first running back being and coach Burrs.
Speaker 1: Burton Burrs, I'm up the death, even though he was
Speaker 1: all my ass every day at Demon. We're looking around
Speaker 1: and we looking at me and me and out team like, man,
Speaker 1: were stupid as hell? What are we doing? What do
Speaker 1: we got ourself into? Yeah, I'm like, man, what are
Speaker 1: we doing? Like we thought that, we thought it was cool,
Speaker 1: and now we're here We're like we're realizing, like, okay,
Speaker 1: one and nobody's in Sloustionaria, everybody, everybody that was in
Speaker 1: the room playing in the NFL. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: so Derek's Derek bawling right now, Kenyan still. But I
Speaker 1: mean like all of us had real talent, so you know,
Speaker 1: so you didn't look at it like Okay, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: coming up a state championship. But so did he he
Speaker 1: he he Oh then I had twenty two hundred yard yeah,
Speaker 1: but he had twenty five, had four Derek had like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But you know, going in hindsight,
Speaker 1: I was just like, man, I want to be the
Speaker 1: best version of me, So I'm gonna go where the
Speaker 1: best best is. We know where the best are going.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm in reality it's like it's only
Speaker 1: so many, It's only so much that could be done
Speaker 1: within that framework. You know, everybody can't touch the ball.
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean ultimately I ended up transferring
Speaker 1: and going to junior college. It was partly some of that,
Speaker 1: partly immaturity on my end, right because you know, I'm
Speaker 1: seventeen years old, fresh out of high school. I got
Speaker 1: the campus. I graduated and got the campus two days later,
Speaker 1: and I was, I was in it. I'm in college.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, never been hurt before in high school,
Speaker 1: always been you know, the top dog. And now I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not a I was a pit bull
Speaker 1: around uh saw was in high school, and now it's
Speaker 1: all peoples, and some of the peoples is bigger than
Speaker 1: bigger than you know what I'm saying. So like I'm
Speaker 1: still barking, but I'm like, Okay, I gotta bark a
Speaker 1: little bit louder or about to do a little bit more.
Speaker 1: And then you know, ended up getting injured during camp
Speaker 1: and kind of didn't really know how to deal with that.
Speaker 1: I'm just like my mind, my mind was immature, and
Speaker 1: you know I did a lot of immature things. And
Speaker 1: me and coach Sabring are close to this day, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe not as close when I was there, because you
Speaker 1: know how I dealt with things, and coach Coach Burns
Speaker 1: and coach Smart, you know, those are my three main guys.
Speaker 1: And you know we talked, We laugh and joke about
Speaker 1: it today, but back then, it was like I was,
Speaker 1: I just kind of went into like a forget everybody mode,
Speaker 1: and you know it just it was just immaturity. Had
Speaker 1: you stayed in Alabama, do you believe your career would
Speaker 1: have turned out like it would like it did like
Speaker 1: it has. I don't think so, because I learned a
Speaker 1: lot from leaving Alabama, you know, and I'm not even
Speaker 1: talking about football. Was just talking about like I learned myself.
Speaker 1: I learned a lot about myself, and I learned a
Speaker 1: lot about how to interact with other people, and I
Speaker 1: learned a lot about how to deal with certain situations.
Speaker 1: I just learned a lot about life. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I went I when I left Alabama, I went home.
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody really know I was done. I was
Speaker 1: about to be done with football. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: about to go back home and just do whatever, like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just kick it, you know. And I did
Speaker 1: that for I left in January January third. I left
Speaker 1: Alabama January third, like February. I win a month. I
Speaker 1: had that peil Briant. I made sure I got that
Speaker 1: pel Brint. I get up out of here. I say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna getting a little five. I can't figure something out.
Speaker 1: January go by. If I can't running out February. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm making a little some shape, but I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: we can't. I gotta figure something out. I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it. I take up like a fist visit
Speaker 1: to Clempson. I'm like, I'm kind of just slow playing everything.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm good. I'm not just going off
Speaker 1: what I just dealt with, Like just mentally, it was
Speaker 1: a lot. It was taxing, and you know, I'm thinking about, like, man,
Speaker 1: how could I dealt with it better? But still at
Speaker 1: that point, I'm like, man, whatever, whatever. I get arrested
Speaker 1: in February, like February sixteen, fifteen, and I'm sitting in
Speaker 1: the back of the cop car in the cop like,
Speaker 1: you ain't no damn roll my model. You ain't nothing,
Speaker 1: da dada that. And I'm like that's that like moment
Speaker 1: of realization and You're like, what am I doing? Oh
Speaker 1: so the cop knew who you were? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, cop?
Speaker 1: Where I was? He like, man, you ain't you ain't nothing.
Speaker 1: You ain't nobody looking up to you. You ain't man,
Speaker 1: nobody either know if you still play football? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So I'm just back there listening I'm like, damn, but
Speaker 1: it's like eleven o'clock am I get to the deil,
Speaker 1: I ain't get processed too, Like, I ain't get processed
Speaker 1: and book everything to like four am, and that same
Speaker 1: crop stood in there. It was pointing that point. Every
Speaker 1: time they wouldn't even they was just moving me from
Speaker 1: cell to Celle wasn't even processing me. He's just pointed like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there go the boy ever and like he ain't sit
Speaker 1: So I'm just sitting wohl bro they brought. I'm already
Speaker 1: at the lowest. You already got behind the ball. You
Speaker 1: ain't gotta keep on doing this till but yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: So I'm just like at that point then I'm like, really,
Speaker 1: I just went I went straight al I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I got the money in my pocket, the deil out there,
Speaker 1: y'all got me none? No, No, I'm just But then
Speaker 1: I had to sit back and be like, yo, what
Speaker 1: what what is that? Where's that gonna get me? It's
Speaker 1: not getting me nowhere. I can't do right situation. I
Speaker 1: called my mom. Moms wasn't mad. She was just like
Speaker 1: what you gonna do? Like you know, she come and
Speaker 1: bailed me up and we took that ride home and
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm not mad at you, like what you
Speaker 1: but you know you gotta figure something out. Next day,
Speaker 1: I called, I called, I called Clempson. I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm about to just let me get out of here.
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I just gotta get back on track.
Speaker 1: They're like, nah, you know I didn't got arrested. Us
Speaker 1: news gonna hit. Nah, We're not gonna take you. You
Speaker 1: know you can go to Juco and you know we
Speaker 1: might take you after you leave Juko. So I feel
Speaker 1: something right, I'm they just want blah blah. I'm like, man, okay,
Speaker 1: So hutch is a community college. Have been calling me
Speaker 1: this whole time, from when I leave Bama to when
Speaker 1: I'm when I'm when I'm at home, like to this
Speaker 1: up to this point, and I'm like, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to know Juco Like I can't. I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: It's along with my home because that I was thinking
Speaker 1: that's Kansas, right yeah. Hum. I'm like, man, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to especially not Kansas, I said, but I'm from
Speaker 1: atlant Like what I'm gonna doing Kansas is doing. So
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta humble myself at this point, I'm
Speaker 1: like I called I called the daddiest Brown. He was
Speaker 1: a coach at at Huts while I was there. Call him,
Speaker 1: I said, a coach, y'all Still y'all take me? He said,
Speaker 1: come on, he said, Wayne, can you get here? It's
Speaker 1: the fifteenth Now, now it's the sixteen. He like, the eighteenth.
Speaker 1: I'm on a plane in Kansas that Thursday, and then
Speaker 1: the rest is history. Never look back, never look back. Okay,
Speaker 1: you spend you spent one year at hutch Yeah, so
Speaker 1: what made you decide to go to Tennessee? So I
Speaker 1: think from me going to Tennessee, I just it was
Speaker 1: it was more of a I didn't want to go
Speaker 1: to UCA. I kind of I didn't want to be
Speaker 1: at home. Right with me, I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take this time. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of look around it and see what
Speaker 1: I want to do. I want to go back to
Speaker 1: the SEC. For me personally, because I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: people like well, he couldn't handle the SEC. He couldn't.
Speaker 1: Who did he could? So it was like for me,
Speaker 1: I was like, let me wait, my officers, where these
Speaker 1: which is gonna be SEC schools I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: and just make it happen. And you know, I had
Speaker 1: a couple of friends at Tennessee at the time, so
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm about to go
Speaker 1: to Tennessee and now was it? And plus Tennessee is
Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to play Alabama? Oh yeah, y yeah,
Speaker 1: we definitely got a tennis to play Alabama. We did that.
Speaker 1: So so you you go to Tennessee, things work out
Speaker 1: well for you, You go to the combine, you do
Speaker 1: what you do. The Saints called what's going through your mind? Man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a perfect situation. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is perfect. I got Sean Payton, like I'm thinking, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking back, I'm like, all right, Darren's FROs Ritchie Bush,
Speaker 1: like I got Drew Brees. You know, this is like
Speaker 1: ideal for me because of the style that I see
Speaker 1: myself playing in, Like it fits that mold. So you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: sho I get to New Orleans and Sean's vision for
Speaker 1: what my vision was was was in line times a million.
Speaker 1: So I'm now I gotta learn all this yeah, and
Speaker 1: that the rest is history, man, Like you know, that
Speaker 1: goes back there talking about Drew and you know, just
Speaker 1: being in the position now was in in New Orleans
Speaker 1: that I've been able to be in New Orleans and
Speaker 1: just blessed to, you know, have the impact that I've had.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's amazing. Let's go back to college
Speaker 1: for a second. You mentioned you had an injury. If
Speaker 1: you didn't have that injury and was forced to red shirt,
Speaker 1: do you think things would have turned out differently because
Speaker 1: maybe you just had too much time when your hand
Speaker 1: I did. I did read Shorty, I got the injury
Speaker 1: in kemp so I had a lot of time to
Speaker 1: think about everything. I was. Man, I'm like, oh, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, did you think did you think you did
Speaker 1: you think you were good enough to play? Or were
Speaker 1: you up saying Shorty, yeah, I think I was definitely
Speaker 1: good enough to play. And and you know, now now
Speaker 1: that I'm looking back older, I definitely had had the
Speaker 1: ability to play, but just immaturely the way I dealt
Speaker 1: and handle that situation, it completely cut me out of
Speaker 1: being able to do. So that's what it was. You
Speaker 1: was upset that they red shirted you. That started you
Speaker 1: on the road to immaturity. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was that. It was like it was, you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're injured, rehab and come back and you know, try
Speaker 1: to try to get back and we'll get you back
Speaker 1: in the rotation. And you know how that goes. It's like,
Speaker 1: you injured, you gotta get back in game, don't stop.
Speaker 1: And they didn't give you that love once you injured.
Speaker 1: It's like that in NFL. You know, they don't give
Speaker 1: you that love when you're injured cause you can't. You know.
Speaker 1: So I'm coming from high school, I'm the man. I
Speaker 1: don't I ain't never got hurt nothing. So now I'm hurt,
Speaker 1: I'm expecting like, Okay, well they're gonna work with me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna rehab and I'm gonna be right
Speaker 1: back in Nah, it's it's nothing going now. The I
Speaker 1: got healthy like maybe the right before the first first
Speaker 1: game or second game, so you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: in stunning at that point. Yeah. So what was coach
Speaker 1: Saban like. I talked to DeVante Devant take me up
Speaker 1: the last week. What coach Sabor like? Man, Coach Sabor,
Speaker 1: he he's he's intense, He's intense, dude, but a lot
Speaker 1: of people I think it uh Coach Saban that they
Speaker 1: missed turfrect Coach Saban. I tell you this every time
Speaker 1: I say, Coach Saban is worried about one thing, and
Speaker 1: that's winning. And that's why he wins. If it doesn't
Speaker 1: have anything to do with winning, he's not concerned with it.
Speaker 1: And that's not that's not a that's not personal. It's
Speaker 1: nothing personal. And I had to realize that when I
Speaker 1: was from being there then leaving and growing up, and
Speaker 1: like it wasn't it wasn't nothing against me that he had.
Speaker 1: It was I was, you can't help me win right now,
Speaker 1: So why you can't You can't help me win, and
Speaker 1: you're not trying to help yourself help me win right
Speaker 1: so that you can't help me win right now? It
Speaker 1: is about availability being injured. So you know, you we
Speaker 1: have you come back, you get, you get, you work
Speaker 1: yourself into rotation. You do what you're doing, you know,
Speaker 1: but doing the wrong thing is not gonna help me win.
Speaker 1: And it's actually it's actually annoying me, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I was doing a lot of things
Speaker 1: that Coach Saban. I think he was ready, he was
Speaker 1: He was like, man, I'm on the verge of getting
Speaker 1: rid of this dude, you know, and that is so
Speaker 1: you you butting heads with coach Saban? He was he
Speaker 1: suspended you sent you on from the ball game, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I bet a head with coach Burns and running
Speaker 1: back coach at the time too so of but here
Speaker 1: but here. So they suspended me and that was it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just like I said, and I
Speaker 1: take full responsibility. It was immaturity. It wasn't nothing about
Speaker 1: coach saving not liking me because Burns not like it
Speaker 1: was completely my tault, Like I was doing stuff that
Speaker 1: was like, so what is it are you telling to
Speaker 1: see or you? Because it seemed like you talked more
Speaker 1: about badly than you do to see. I mean, so
Speaker 1: what's going on? That's where the journey begun? Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's where the journey beginning. But
Speaker 1: I'm both, you know, I'm both, I think, but I
Speaker 1: you know, I ended at at UT, so I gotta
Speaker 1: go UT. But you know, whenever you know Sabama, dudes
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah you went to Damia. Do we
Speaker 1: know you started at Damia's roadside? I give him a
Speaker 1: little Roadside and cute movie. So do you do do
Speaker 1: you ever go Do you ever go back to Obama? Uh? Not?
Speaker 1: Now I don't really go back to Tessa losing, But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still close with all everybody, all of
Speaker 1: them dudes, man, everybody that I that I that kind
Speaker 1: of came before me a little bit in that area,
Speaker 1: in that range when I was visiting. And then the
Speaker 1: dudes obviously that I played with ju and Juko. But
Speaker 1: I say, like going to Juco, I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: I played with a lot of guys that went to
Speaker 1: Juco somewhere, the Hutchinson A lot of them went to
Speaker 1: the schools in Mississippi in the wand behind you know,
Speaker 1: all those schools, you and you you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. You you know they have ours worth out
Speaker 1: an hour, you know, taffed out here in California. So
Speaker 1: so I'm familiar. So they say it's bad. Said, it's
Speaker 1: pretty bad. Yeah, it's bad. It's exactly like everybody's seeing
Speaker 1: Last Chance to you. And they're like, man, it's so real,
Speaker 1: like that's a man, it's TV show. I said, no,
Speaker 1: that's really what it like. It's really what it is.
Speaker 1: And I'm coming from there. I'm coming from like the top.
Speaker 1: I'm coming from the top. I'm not just coming from
Speaker 1: D one. I'm coming from D D one school out there.
Speaker 1: But like, shoot, somebody might tie you. Shoot if you
Speaker 1: if if it come up lose, I'll get the Kansas
Speaker 1: And you feel I'm like fighting for the scraps. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: what is going on here? Like it's not nothing for you,
Speaker 1: nothing that's given to you at all. You gotta work
Speaker 1: for every single thing. And I think that experience was
Speaker 1: like so humbling and like it was humbling, and it
Speaker 1: was at the same time it was like man, why
Speaker 1: I mean? But then at the same time, it was
Speaker 1: gratifying because I was able to like endure and overcome
Speaker 1: everything that happened to me there and you know, come
Speaker 1: out the other side even better than I came in.
Speaker 1: It's did anybody that enter of your team, they say, man, man,
Speaker 1: what the hell you're doing here? How the hell you
Speaker 1: leave Alabama to come here? I was like, man, what
Speaker 1: did you do? Are you stupid? I'm like a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff happening out in mature. I was hurt, and
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I would have just stayed. I
Speaker 1: don't care. I would have just rehabbed it. I was
Speaker 1: just I'm like, nah. It was like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of all right. For the jew
Speaker 1: Cup thing for me was like a personal journey. It
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I need to gonna do this and
Speaker 1: grow up a little bit. That twenty twenty seventeen draft.
Speaker 1: Leonard for Nets in that draft, Christian McCaffrey's in that draft,
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook's in that draft, Joe Mixing is in that draft,
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, you side of the guys up
Speaker 1: the hold on me and Christian McCaffrey, David Cook, we
Speaker 1: you know, we all, you know, we all, Joe Mixon,
Speaker 1: We're about the same side. Leonard for Nette a little taller,
Speaker 1: a little heavier, but hey, I hold my own. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm doing this in the SEC. So what what's up? Third?
Speaker 1: I mean for Net off the board first and then
Speaker 1: uh C mac I played with his dad. Then Dalven
Speaker 1: yo mix are like, hold on, whoa, whoa, yeah, y'all
Speaker 1: just gonna oh look your boy. Yeah man. So a
Speaker 1: lot of people ask me about that, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you can ask like that anybody around me. It's close
Speaker 1: to me. I was never really worried about my position,
Speaker 1: my draft, you know, the stock of it. You know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't worried about like, oh, he's projected to go
Speaker 1: because I was projected to go first round. Right after
Speaker 1: my combine I killed the combine. I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: he's helped itself. He you know, he might go first round,
Speaker 1: he might go second round, he might go I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not into predicting nothing, though. I'm like, yo, I
Speaker 1: have my mom, my brother, and like two a couple
Speaker 1: of my friends, my sister. We was just watching they
Speaker 1: won't go by not all. They're like, man, it's okay, man,
Speaker 1: they should have drafted you. I'm like, man, where are
Speaker 1: we going? Y'all want to go out? I'm still celebrating
Speaker 1: because I'm like, man, I didn't work so long to
Speaker 1: get to this point. I'm like celebrating everything that's like
Speaker 1: happened to me from them with the huts to and
Speaker 1: just to be able to be in that position of
Speaker 1: being on the t he be like, yeah, this kid,
Speaker 1: he could be. He could he could go any day,
Speaker 1: from one to any round, from one to two to three.
Speaker 1: Like I'm just blessed to be in the conversation I'm cool.
Speaker 1: A lot of dude, A lot of dudes like like
Speaker 1: you mentioned the Davis and the Christmas and the Lennards.
Speaker 1: They put in a lot more work than me as
Speaker 1: far as their college careers went. They had a full
Speaker 1: body of work. And it was a consistent body of
Speaker 1: work for me. I had to, you know, I kind
Speaker 1: of had to do a little hokey pokeing and turn
Speaker 1: around and do what I had to do. But you know,
Speaker 1: nonetheless still blessed. So, you know, they took around two goals,
Speaker 1: and you know, there was some rumblings like I might
Speaker 1: get drafted in the second round. I might don't happen.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm good. Like you know, people checking
Speaker 1: on you. You know how that go, people checking on you, like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you better than Dada Da. It's like, I don't care,
Speaker 1: it's not about that. It just you know, it is
Speaker 1: what it is. It got to fall out, it got
Speaker 1: to happen. How it got to happen, you know. So
Speaker 1: then the third round comes and you know, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it and five or four number calling, I'm like hello,
Speaker 1: like hey Ivan, it's Sean Payne and Dada Dad. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, okay, We're gone well off the board with
Speaker 1: the third, with the sixty seventh pick, two seventeen nfls
Speaker 1: are after New Orleans Saints. It's like Alan Camara running
Speaker 1: back Tennessee. I'm like, finally, I'm not even I'm cool,
Speaker 1: like I'm I was content, I was fine. I'm like,
Speaker 1: finally everybody can stop talking about you should have been
Speaker 1: this round and that round. Like, all right, I was
Speaker 1: the third round, third pick. It's done. Now it's trying
Speaker 1: to get to work. What I tell young guys, it's
Speaker 1: not how high you go, it's where you go. You
Speaker 1: could have went higher and not going to someone that's
Speaker 1: that their offensive mind is like Sean Payton, you could
Speaker 1: have gone somewhere that they don't have a Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: And so now Alvin Kamara goes somewhere and they don't
Speaker 1: use him like the Saints use him to showcase all
Speaker 1: of his ability, not only his rushing ability but also
Speaker 1: his receiving ability out of the backfield. We'll line him
Speaker 1: up in the slot, we'll put him out wide. Well, oh,
Speaker 1: y'all put a Saint Donty. We're throwing the ball, y'all
Speaker 1: put a lineback on it. We damn sure gonna throw
Speaker 1: him the ball. So it wasn't how high you went,
Speaker 1: it was where you went that ultimately gave you an
Speaker 1: opportunity to show what you could really do exactly. And
Speaker 1: that's what that was the most important thing for me, Like,
Speaker 1: like we talked about earlier, it's like, once I know
Speaker 1: I'm with Sean Payton Drew Brees, and I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the perfect situation. I can't beat it. Right now,
Speaker 1: it's up to me to take advantage. What was the
Speaker 1: first thing you purchased? What was your first big purchase?
Speaker 1: I still ain't had the first big purchase. Really, you
Speaker 1: ain't about You ain't about nothing. You ain't about no range,
Speaker 1: you ain't about no g wagon. You ain't about no Ferrari.
Speaker 1: I ain't spent the dollar of football money. I ain't
Speaker 1: taching none of it. Oh but that would you ride
Speaker 1: the b Yeah? I mean so, I think the most
Speaker 1: money I spent was probably building that juice bol okay,
Speaker 1: And that wasn't really nothing. That was like, but you know,
Speaker 1: you got to buy mom So mom didn't want anything.
Speaker 1: Mom got Mom's got a crib, but I didn't. She
Speaker 1: Still I'm renting the crib. My mom's so indecised, and
Speaker 1: she like, I want to buy a house. I want
Speaker 1: to I wanna live in Canada. I want to live here.
Speaker 1: I'm like, mar where you wanna live. He's still all
Speaker 1: over the place. So I'm like, okay, I'm saving a
Speaker 1: couple of dollars right there. But now I haven't been
Speaker 1: a little simple dug. I'm just, you know, take care
Speaker 1: of what I gotta take care of him. You know, well, okay,
Speaker 1: then you ain't living sil You've got a grill. You
Speaker 1: got several grills the college to go when that was
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars from U j J Jewelry down underground
Speaker 1: mall and in at Lemtter, I know, and I got
Speaker 1: and I got the diamond one. Yeah, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: the diamond one. But I ain't have to do nothing.
Speaker 1: I ain't have to do too much for that. So
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna get no pink down with like, oh,
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna put one of his in your hate.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that one shout out doing that.
Speaker 1: I guess you know. That's eric to each his own.
Speaker 1: You know, you got ye, you might have a little
Speaker 1: bit too much money. You could take a dime and
Speaker 1: stick it on your forehead. Yeah yeah, he said he
Speaker 1: was playing for that for a couple of years. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah. So moving forward, how to do you
Speaker 1: wanna run carried the ball more? Because right now you're
Speaker 1: you know, they throw it to you. They But would
Speaker 1: you like to say, you know what, let me get
Speaker 1: two in the fifty carries. Let me see have many
Speaker 1: yards I could actually get. I don't care about all that, man,
Speaker 1: I'm about I think the touches count more. Like you know,
Speaker 1: if I if I get if we if we're talking
Speaker 1: about X running back getting twenty carries and having one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards and a touchdown, and we're talking
Speaker 1: about me having ten carries and then ten catches and
Speaker 1: I'm having two hundred dollar purpose and three touchdowns. I
Speaker 1: mean right, I'd rather. I'd rather the ten catches and
Speaker 1: the and the ten carries all day and then the
Speaker 1: twenty then it's the twenty carries. Let's talk about that
Speaker 1: six touch that six touchdown game. Because I was upset
Speaker 1: because you right there, you right there at five and
Speaker 1: I really thought you should have had seven, because they
Speaker 1: I think taste them ran one in im Like, man,
Speaker 1: this is a bull job. Man, y'all know that man
Speaker 1: got five touchdowns could get fixed, and they wouldn't let
Speaker 1: them get They let you get fixed. I was picked
Speaker 1: off because you should have had the record. You should
Speaker 1: have got seven. Yeah, I said I should have had it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm gonna let you send a letter
Speaker 1: to song and talk to him. I came up and
Speaker 1: a man your senders like, nah, he's talking a song
Speaker 1: on the sideline. He's like, man, that's messed up. So
Speaker 1: you messed up? He like what he's like, Man, they
Speaker 1: can't need one more. He's like what he's like? Oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't know? And then take some came to me.
Speaker 1: He was like, man, I'm sorry. Nah, you sorry, you
Speaker 1: knew it. You should have just turned it around for Nah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna hand this ball off the album up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when did you did you know? Did you know going
Speaker 1: into that game, Because sometimes you know you have a
Speaker 1: big game, you could feel like, man, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be my day. I'm gonna have a b I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a good game. But they ain't different about
Speaker 1: that game. I just felt good. I felt good at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the game, and you know I usually
Speaker 1: turned like I'll say something to Drew or I'll say
Speaker 1: something like Latavius or you know, anybody like Mike Mark.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel good, like it's time, like you know.
Speaker 1: Whatever they say back, I'm like, man, I'm feel good.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go crazy. So I get on. We're getting
Speaker 1: the game. I get one. I'm like, oh yeah, like
Speaker 1: I feel real. I feel too good. I go to
Speaker 1: the sideline. I tell Sean. I said, I feel too good.
Speaker 1: I said, give me the ball. He said, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna keep giving it to you. I
Speaker 1: get a second touchdown. I'm like, okay, hold on, I
Speaker 1: feel like I feel real good. I go to my
Speaker 1: RB coach. I gotta go Joe Thomas. I'm like, sat,
Speaker 1: what's the record for touchdowns? And he's like, hold on,
Speaker 1: let me figure out. So we go back out for
Speaker 1: another drive. I scored another touchdown. I come back and
Speaker 1: he's like, the records the record six. So I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: I might It's not even half time yet, and I
Speaker 1: got three. I said I might break the record. So
Speaker 1: he's like, let's go. So I'm talking to Sean. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: don't get scared. I was like you're always talking about
Speaker 1: giving somebody the ball. Give me the ball. He's like,
Speaker 1: he said, I'll bring it to you. Tired. He said,
Speaker 1: you're gonna tap out. He said, just tap out. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna tap out. So he's like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the ball. So four five and he
Speaker 1: gonna do that and putting taste for me take my six.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, I'm on the sideline. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: it's Christmas, but slow too, so I because I know
Speaker 1: you like it so close. I'm having it one of
Speaker 1: these games. I told my RB coach, but before the half, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get that record. Yeah, yeah, I tell yeah.
Speaker 1: I told him, I'm I'm gonna get it. He likes,
Speaker 1: come on, let's do it. Something like that. So we
Speaker 1: running the ball, running the ball, get the sixth one.
Speaker 1: Take him, get the sixth one. So I'm at five.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, whatever, man, we bless Christmas were whooping.
Speaker 1: We're killing them on TV or whatever. It's clue. So
Speaker 1: then I guess they something. I forgot what happened. I
Speaker 1: think I gotta turnover. Yeah, we gotta turnover. Then balled
Speaker 1: Adam Trump and he's running down the sideline, running that side.
Speaker 1: I like forty, I'm happy. I love Trump. But he
Speaker 1: gets tackled on the one yard line. I love him.
Speaker 1: I love Trump. But I'm like, yeah, I'm like go,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, let's get it. I said I'm
Speaker 1: about to get the sixth one. So I get in
Speaker 1: there and get the sixth one. And that's what you know,
Speaker 1: that's a snowflakes And that's when I tied the record.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, damn, I could have had I could
Speaker 1: have had I could have had seven. Oh you had
Speaker 1: seven all day, if you know what, But just your luck,
Speaker 1: you'd have got that sixth one and Trout would have
Speaker 1: read it into the end zone. He wouldn't have it,
Speaker 1: So it would be for you to get the time.
Speaker 1: Everything all the ways turned out how I was supposed
Speaker 1: to do. That's all. I like, Man, I can't even
Speaker 1: complain what inspired you to get the nose ring. I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know what. And I've had it since
Speaker 1: like two thousand fourteen, two fourteen. I just one day
Speaker 1: I was just like, man, I'm just about to do
Speaker 1: so because I had to, you know, the one right,
Speaker 1: you had to? Yeah, I had to one Nostro and I,
Speaker 1: like everybody around me started getting it, and I'm like
Speaker 1: the hell. I'm like, man, I'll come up with something
Speaker 1: like du something like, come up with something else. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know something they're not gonna do. So me and
Speaker 1: my boy we go to the We go to the
Speaker 1: piercing shop and I go in there and the ladies like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna, Pierce. I'm like, I want to
Speaker 1: set them, and she's she started laughing at me, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm dead serious, like I wanna
Speaker 1: set them. She's like yeah, whatever. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: come on. So she starts. She's like, all right, I'll
Speaker 1: just go through it. I know you're not gonna go
Speaker 1: through with it. Oh, Pierce my nother She's like, wow,
Speaker 1: are you serious. I'm like yeah. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: it's something new, Like I gotta come up with something new.
Speaker 1: Didn't hurt. Oh yeah, you cried then you cried. You
Speaker 1: cried a little bit. I wasn't actively crying. It was passive.
Speaker 1: It was passive tears. Yeah, You're might have been passive
Speaker 1: tears in the shop, but you boohooed in the car.
Speaker 1: It's hurt. Man, I'm telling you hurt, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just something different. Like I was like, man, I'm
Speaker 1: just like it was me. It wasn't like forced. It
Speaker 1: was still me because like that's kind of I do
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But that was that was like the
Speaker 1: most I was like, yeah, this is kind of this
Speaker 1: extreme man. So it was so what So you will
Speaker 1: get anything you feel? Okay, the Saints winning the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: you're getting attatched, a super Bowl tattoo. You're getting something,
Speaker 1: Piers what what? What? What what you're gonna do to
Speaker 1: mark that occasion? Saints win the super Bowl? Man, people
Speaker 1: think on while now man they y'all see j R.
Speaker 1: Smith on that flow. It's gonna be mad at with
Speaker 1: sus send me a couple of holes in hen these
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a miles We're good Bay. That ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be you know what that No, dude, dude, because
Speaker 1: that'd be y'all wouldn't do that'd be ran Mardy grow time. Dude. No,
Speaker 1: we can't have the party. It's gonna be crazy. I
Speaker 1: think gonna be like, man, this dude that was crazy,
Speaker 1: Like he's crazy for real. You you also you big
Speaker 1: into fashion Yeah, what what led how did how did you?
Speaker 1: What led you to do that? Basically, my sister was
Speaker 1: in the in the fashion when I was younger, Like
Speaker 1: I'm talking about talking about piles of magazines, like fashion
Speaker 1: magazines like this everything, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: she kind of got me into it, and you know,
Speaker 1: as I got older, I was just more and more
Speaker 1: like I kind of was able to, you know, create
Speaker 1: my own style and in tune with it. So I
Speaker 1: just kept it going. And now it's just you know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's like your sneaker head too. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't call myself a sneaker head, but I do. I
Speaker 1: do in those and sneakers, you know. So what's what's
Speaker 1: what's your what's your favorite sneaker? My favorite sneaker? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think from my foot, like the most comfortable shoe
Speaker 1: that I throw on, like and I'm like I can
Speaker 1: wear them every day. Just a Jordan three any any
Speaker 1: any any any variation of it any by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to be. It's hard to beat the three.
Speaker 1: I like the three, I like the eleventh, I like
Speaker 1: the fives, I like the fours, I like the ones,
Speaker 1: the three. I think three is the one. That's the
Speaker 1: that's the one. So you you admit so you you
Speaker 1: really amid guy because of three and the three is
Speaker 1: I mean the three. It's hard to beat the three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to be that. You can't. It's like it's
Speaker 1: the perfect it's versatile. You can do what you can
Speaker 1: do with it. Yeah, you can wear with the shoe,
Speaker 1: you wear with Jane, you wear with short the jobs. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's it's hard to mess up the three.
Speaker 1: That's what they don't know, you know, so you're fashion
Speaker 1: your sense the piercing. Give me a comparison. Somebody in
Speaker 1: the NBA that that style and reminds you of Alvin.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really watch basketball, so I
Speaker 1: ain't really ain't really you ain't hand the hoop like that.
Speaker 1: I really in the basketball comparison, I don't know. You
Speaker 1: give me a comparison, I don't know. I mean you
Speaker 1: you right with that, Jr. Smith, But uh uh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to get back to you that one. I'mna
Speaker 1: have to think of that one. Uh. Who hit you
Speaker 1: the hardest? Because everybody wants to up that. That's what
Speaker 1: I get. Man, Who hit you the hardest in your career?
Speaker 1: Who give me the hardest? I think both of 'em
Speaker 1: a cheap hits though, so I don't even other than that,
Speaker 1: Oh you you try the Jayalen Smith on Thursday night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that one and the and the uh and Debo de
Speaker 1: Zones my rookie year in that landing both of 'em,
Speaker 1: both of 'em. I got cold cuz I'm like, nay, y'all,
Speaker 1: ain't it. And then and then Jayleen he really just
Speaker 1: went all out with it, like he just crush me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you he it was helmet, the helmet,
Speaker 1: you know, they was running that like he posted pictures
Speaker 1: of people send it to me. I'm like, man, oh,
Speaker 1: he can't tell me other than that. When you hear
Speaker 1: people say the running back position, they devalue the running back.
Speaker 1: You can just get anybody and just plug your me
Speaker 1: in and they can do this, they can do that.
Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? I don't feel type away.
Speaker 1: I think I just I don't really talk too much.
Speaker 1: I just show it so and I'm happy that there's
Speaker 1: some other dudes in the league from Dalvin's and Christians
Speaker 1: and Aaron Zones and Derek's that are kind of like
Speaker 1: showing it too. It's like it's funny. It's like the
Speaker 1: timing of it that you know, these got like Christian
Speaker 1: got his check, I gotta check, Derek is getting his money.
Speaker 1: Like we're showing that. You know, Okay, you can you
Speaker 1: can throw anybody at any position. Don't mean they're gonna
Speaker 1: do it good. You know what, I do it to
Speaker 1: like an elite level. If you're talking about if we're
Speaker 1: talking about good great elite and like superstars. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you got it. It's it's a
Speaker 1: certain level. It's pay great. This level. It levels levels
Speaker 1: to it. So you know, I mean you're gonna the pay.
Speaker 1: Got a match. If if another dude can do it,
Speaker 1: do it, let him do it. Obviously, that's not the world.
Speaker 1: That's not realistic. That's not the world we're living. I
Speaker 1: got a job to do. But it's like shit show me. Finally,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at your numbers and if you were to
Speaker 1: do this, you'd be only the fourth guy. Roger Craig
Speaker 1: get it thousand, rush thousand receiver, Marsha Falk, get it thousand,
Speaker 1: rush thousand receiver. Christian McCaffrey. You come close a couple
Speaker 1: of times you've had you had seven d twenty eight
Speaker 1: rush yards this year eight twenty six. Receiving you had
Speaker 1: nine thirty two. Your rookie uh lore you had nine
Speaker 1: thirty two last year seven fifty six, and your rookie
Speaker 1: year you had seven twenty at eight twenty six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what would that mean to get a thousand thousand to
Speaker 1: join that elite company? Yeah? Let me do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like, And it's so crazy because I
Speaker 1: never look at it. I've never really looked during the season.
Speaker 1: I don't really be looking at numbers. I'm just like, man,
Speaker 1: let's go. I'm trying to turn up as much as
Speaker 1: I can't get as many touches as I can't get
Speaker 1: as many touchdowns as I can whatever that looks like. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, it'll definitely, it would definitely be a good company.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's something. And then it's like only when you
Speaker 1: say anytime you say only these people did it, it's
Speaker 1: not a lot of people. You know, it's dope to
Speaker 1: just be in that in that category like one of
Speaker 1: the only that did something. But when I know something
Speaker 1: you know about you, if you're from the AID, you
Speaker 1: Grady babies. So you know about something about the rap community. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit. Okay, I want you to give me
Speaker 1: my rushboard. Rappers, Atlanta rappers, my rushboard. Yeah, thats what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about now, fish, Fish, you don't watch basketball.
Speaker 1: You know something about the rap scene in the eighth Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: if we just if we're talking about it, like you said,
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore, we're talking about pioneer music, the music scene
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I'll go outcast nah that you gotta take
Speaker 1: one of them? Why I can't. I ain't no group. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll take Big Boy Andres I like and I like Andre.
Speaker 1: I like Andre. But I'm just talking about like that.
Speaker 1: We're talking about still like that fifty mode of Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I love, I love and Okay, okay, Okay, That's why
Speaker 1: I say out cares. I ain't want to pick one.
Speaker 1: I know. That's why I didn't let you do that,
Speaker 1: because I wanted to pick one. I go ahead, I
Speaker 1: got so i'mos just gonna say out cares. Let you
Speaker 1: do like out cares. I got Gucci, Okay, yeah, I
Speaker 1: got t Okay, who you got? You looking at it
Speaker 1: like you got something there? I got. I just died.
Speaker 1: He's just looking. I've been and I had to put
Speaker 1: I had to put it. I had to put a
Speaker 1: space in there. So then I'm gonna put jez on
Speaker 1: there up there too. So you got big Boy, I
Speaker 1: got out Care Okay, Okay, you got Okay, you you
Speaker 1: got Gucci, you got t I and who you got
Speaker 1: James easy? Yeah. I mean they had the bad they
Speaker 1: had a bad group. I mean, I can't leave loot off.
Speaker 1: I gotta keep loot. I gotta bring looted. You can't
Speaker 1: have around without loot them. Okay, Well if I if
Speaker 1: I can't have outcasts along, I mean, if I can't
Speaker 1: have outcasts as a group, then I'll just put looted.
Speaker 1: I mean you left two chains, got left off your home,
Speaker 1: You left your home, one of your home, all your
Speaker 1: homeboys off. Yeah, let them all out because I was
Speaker 1: just That's why I started off, And I said who
Speaker 1: hiring neared the rep game and the little baby. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about I don't know. I came before him.
Speaker 1: Now we can say we can no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: My Rushmore is not about. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: presidents that came before Abraham Lincoln. There became Woodrow. Yeah no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no day. How we do this President? All together? Your best,
Speaker 1: all the covers I got, baby, I got whoos Man.
Speaker 1: That's tough. That's hard. That's hard because that's we got
Speaker 1: all that, we got, all the flavor, we got all
Speaker 1: the music. Well, for me, I'm going three stacks. I'm
Speaker 1: going TI, I'm going to loot up, and I'm going
Speaker 1: Jesus and I'm done with it. Okay, See, were right
Speaker 1: in line. Hey, Albert, I've been appreciate it, Appreciate what
Speaker 1: you're doing for the community. Appreciate your career. Much success continued,
Speaker 1: and thanks for dropping by the bay, no doubt I
Speaker 1: can say. Appreciate it all my life. The grinding all
Speaker 1: my life, sacrifice, hustle back price, one slice got the
Speaker 1: broller dice to swap all my life. I've been grinding
Speaker 1: all my life, all my life, the grinding all my life, sacrifice,
Speaker 1: hustle back price, one slice got the broll dice to
Speaker 1: swap all my life. I've been grinding in all my life.