WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Daniel Caesar Talks 'Son of Spergy,' YesJulz, Trump, Resenting Societal Systems, Marriage + More 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:02.720 Every day waiting. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:07.560 Breakfast club finish, y'all done morning. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.520 Everybody is d j en Vy just hilarious. 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.200 Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club Longla Roses 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:15.960 here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Indeed, 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:18.000 ladies and gentlemen, Daniel Season welcome. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:19.000 Thank you. 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:19.599 How you feel? 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:30.200 Nobody yourself gets it? I'm great, I'm great. I I 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:36.040 just got out of four eight hours of uh stomach 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:37.400 not stomach flu. What's the other one? 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:38.440 Bad? 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:43.600 Bad sandwich? I feel I feel renewed. I feel like 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.360 a new person. Oh yeah, you show. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:47.840 It wasn't the stomach, but you know, the stomach virus 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:48.400 was going around. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.880 I've been hearing about that, but it was like a 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:51.760 day a day. 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:52.839 That's the same thing. 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:55.640 What a talented R and B singer you are? 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:57.520 You are absolutely. 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.640 I was listening to the Sun of Spurgey album for 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.680 first I explained the title son a spur Spurgy is 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:03.720 how he pronounce it, spurgy. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:07.759 Okay, yeah, that's my dad's. My dad's nickname is from Jamaica. 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.959 He likes to anytime he's talking, he'll he'll go into 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.800 a sermon at any moment. As a famous preacher called 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:18.360 Charles Spurgeon, so they called him Spurgi when he was young. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.400 I want to I want to go back a little 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.040 bit if y'all don't mind for people that don't know 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.679 who Daniel sees there is. Uh, you're from Canada, and 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:27.240 tell tell everybody how you got. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.000 Into the music industry and and. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:32.040 Your background, your your father you said, is Jamaican, and 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:33.800 break it down a little bit for people that don't know. 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.800 Yeah, my my my dad was a singer back in 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:41.040 Montego Bay. When he was singing. No well, I mean 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:42.760 he always sang in the church since she was little. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.000 My grandmother heard that he could sing from school and 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.040 she's like, if you're not singing church, on beat your ass. 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.520 So uh, but he was like doing dinner music and 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:55.320 stuff at hotels. You're making tourism industry. And so he 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.680 ends up in Canada, meets my mom from Barbados and 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.080 both me and Canada and uh, and then I'm like 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:04.760 singing when I was little, it's kind of just it's 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.760 kind of just all. I used to just run around 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.239 the house, used to play by myself a lot. I 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:09.679 would just like sprint up and down the house and 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:14.560 I'd be singing to myself or whatever. And then yeah, 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.520 and then high school came around and they start smoking 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.799 weed and going friends have studios and it's a long story. 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.760 It's a long story. But yeah, around like high school, 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.200 I got kicked out of school and I was like, 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:31.040 it was around that time where I was like, the 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.080 way this whole thing is set up, like I'm not 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.280 about to I hate school. I'm really bad at school. 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.320 I don't enjoy school. And then I was like, oh 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.040 my god, one day I'm gonna finish school and then 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.200 I'm gonna have to get a job. And that's like 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:44.320 school too. So I'm like, am I gonna do this 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.040 the rest of my life? And I would rather die? 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:47.640 Jes Jesus Christ. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.919 No, I'm serious, though, I saw I. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.160 Really feel like that. You feel like that at the 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.280 time you don't want to die? 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.600 No, I don't. I don't know. I didn't mean that literally, 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:58.959 I would rather die. I don't want to die. I'm 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:03.919 gonna do what I want. It's yeah, doing what I love. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.480 I don't just want to die for no. No, if 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.200 you're gonna make me do something I don't want to do, 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.040 I'll give you liberty or give me death. You know 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.440 what I mean that revolution though not like you know, 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:18.120 I mean sometimes being alive is a revolutionary act. That is, like, 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.440 you know, he don't want you. They're trying to control you, 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.920 r make you be something that. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:25.720 Yeah, So is it. 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.400 True that your dad kicked you out the house and 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:28.840 that's when you really took it serious. 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.280 No, my dad did not kick me out of the house. 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:35.440 When my dad did, which I respect as time passed, 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.880 of course, he was like, you're not just gonna sit 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:42.920 around here and and sing songs and not go to university. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:44.880 And he had a heavy Jamaican accent, I'm sure, so. 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:46.680 It was only when he's angry. He actually has a 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:51.320 great telephone voice forgetting and stuff like that. Yeah, He's like, 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.440 you're not just gonna sit around here in my house 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.760 and like not participate in this world that's going on 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:58.560 outside the way that we think you should. So I 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:02.400 was like, oh, okay, then I'll you know, he's very 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.000 strong willed. I'm also very strong willed, so I was like, okay, 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:08.280 I'll live outside. It's honestly, you know what's crazy. I 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:15.680 think if I was alive, like I don't know, five 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.560 hundred years ago, I would have been like a pirate 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:20.400 or a vagabond or something, you know what I mean. 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:21.560 But you would to be homeless. 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.960 I don't want to be homeless. I just didn't want 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.279 to do anything that I didn't want to do. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.359 Where you did you leave the house and go be 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:28.960 homeless though? 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:33.120 Yeah, it was the streets. I was like CouchSurfing. You 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.240 have friends and then there's always a home to It's 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.320 just like I was very strong willed, so it's like 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.320 there's always a home to go back to, but I 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.120 have to go back under my father's rules, my father's 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.080 you know what I mean. I respect it respecfully. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:45.520 You have a homeless aesthetic. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.800 But I mean it's probably a thing going on. 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.720 No, it's definitely not your hair. I love it hair. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.560 No, yeah, no, I did it on purpose. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.800 You are not strong willed. You are stubborn. That's what 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:58.280 it was. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.880 You're stubborn as hell because you Joe, how old were 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.560 you when you when your dad gave you that ultimatum? 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:04.440 Uh? 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:08.279 Seventeen, Okay, that's around the age where you like think you. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.880 I mean, from my perspective, it turns out I didn't know, 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:13.799 you know what I mean. 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.039 Because it was wrong. 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:18.200 Yeah, okay, gotcha, And I believe and I also believe 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.880 like they raised, they didn't raise a dummy, right, So 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.800 it's kind of like I think everybody deep down knows 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.720 what they should be doing, and then the universe is 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.720 going to keep throwing things at you to suggest that 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.520 you shouldn't be doing that to scare you. And like 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.039 being homeless or being poor is very scary. 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:38.880 Did you sing for like change? 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:43.960 No? No, it was amazing. I don't want to throw 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.320 it over dramatized. I had. I was a dishwasher. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.200 I think he went on on his own and figured 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:50.160 it out, figured it out. 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.240 But I want to hear about the signs that told 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.160 you you should be singing. I know the signs that 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:55.840 you know told you the things you shouldn't have been doing, 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.039 But what were the signs that showed you you should 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:58.480 be singing? 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:04.080 My I remember, and I went to like this boarding school, 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:10.280 like Christian Academy, and so on Friday nights it was 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.400 seven day Adventists. So on Friday nights we would have vespers, 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.320 kind of like Shabbat sort of situation. And I remember 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:19.640 it was around that time when I was like all right, 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.000 I used to play sports and I was like, all right, 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:26.320 I'm not that great at sports. So I started singing 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.600 and playing the piano and they had me perform at 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:33.640 Vespers and I sang this song and I'd not even joke. 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.480 I feel like thirty percent of the of the people 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:41.480 in the audience were like sobbing and it was cool. 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.320 It was very and it was like guys girls, some 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.000 guys who their whole thing was like I'm tough, you know, 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.800 like whatever. And I was like, oh, this is this 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.839 is interesting, you know, like the power was was. I 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:56.280 was like, Oh, this is what I'm good at. I'm 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.279 useful at this. I'm valuable when I do this, So 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.160 why not just do this so I can feel valuable 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:02.720 all the time, you know what I mean? 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.760 Did your pops when did your pops come back and 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.880 be like you made the right decision? Or has that 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:07.760 not happened yet? 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:12.160 It has? And I mean probably, like I've played some 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.160 pretty big shows, you know, they were at Madison Square Garden. 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:20.400 That was one of them. Probably when we did in 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:24.640 Toronto Budweiser Stadium or not stadium's out of stadium. It's 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:29.440 a amphitheater. But it was just all those people singing 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.520 the songs in here there he was like, Okay, I got. 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:33.560 It now, and you honored him. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.120 You honored him, you know, by naming your albums on 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.080 the spurge his face on the cover. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:38.640 How does he feel about that? 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:45.520 You know what? He's so, he's just such an interesting guy. 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.480 He's so cool. But what he did. I put out 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:52.320 a letter talking about my experience with him before that 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.760 came out, and that was the thing that really got 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:58.960 him emotionally. But he's you know what I mean, He's 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.280 not like, yeah, your dad, Yeah you should spell time 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:02.840 you put me on. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.520 You know, You've been very open about like your struggles 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.560 with identity and faith and self worth. I wonder, at 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.640 this point in your life, who is Daniel Cesar still 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:13.640 unlearning to be? 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:23.480 Mm hmm. I've been thinking that a lot lately. I 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:28.800 internalize everything, so that's kind of how I moved to 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.000 the world. I kind of. I think it's like, because 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.880 my dad is such a he's an immovable force. So 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.600 if I want something and I want to change his mind, 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:43.880 you just can't. So You're like, when people exhibit behaviors 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.960 around me and the world, I just assume that that's 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:50.120 who they are. I don't like I don't believe in like, hey, 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.520 what you did made me feel this way, and maybe 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.319 you could change it, but know that's who you are. 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.120 I'm either gonna and then it's like I don't like that, 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.000 because then the next time you do it, I either 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.040 have to be like, all right, I guess I'm just 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.000 gonna take it now, or I'm eventually I'm just gonna 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.160 have to separate from you, you know, So that sort 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:12.480 of confrontation, it's like people are gonna be who they 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:17.240 are until you decide what you're gonna do about it. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.880 And there's violence, or there's emotional violence, or there's running 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:25.559 away detachment or detachment. And so I just always kind 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.679 of went through the world like some people are like this, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.040 some people are like that. Then you internalize it and 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.480 then I put the responsibility on myself. How am I 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.320 going to get around this? How am I going to 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.199 not let that stop me from where I'm trying to go. 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:44.480 But then you don't realize what you sacrifice in yourself 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:50.080 by not addressing some things when they happen in front 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.840 of you, you know what I mean. And it's like 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.480 and then you were like I am a crash out, 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.160 you know, and sometimes it kind of just jumps out 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:01.960 of me at the wrong times because I'm not addressing 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.000 the things when I'm supposed to address them. 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:04.240 You know. 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.880 And then you're just like and sometimes and then you 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:10.720 you think that makes you a good person by not 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:15.840 trying to control other people, and then the way it 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.839 becomes too much and then you you you crash out, 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:22.760 and then you're like, damn, I wonder how many times 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.760 I've hurt people that I care about because I was 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.680 living my life in this way that I thought was right, 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.840 you know what I mean? Because it usually you you 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:35.079 go to work, then your your your asshole boss or 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:39.040 whatever is is putting a shit on you, and then 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.640 you take it and then you go home and then 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.960 your kid asks you for the new PlayStation and you 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.400 yell at him, you know. And so it's just kind 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.040 of like the context of the world we live in. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.720 It's just like it is capitalism. It is like somebody's 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:54.640 somebody's got to get screwed at the end of the day. 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.679 It's exploitation. This whole shit is built off of exploitation. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.079 Someone's got to get it, and usually it's the weakest, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:05.480 most genuine, kindest, friendliest person I. 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:09.520 Wonder why you internalize I guess other people's bullshit because 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.400 you know, I love the Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz, 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.079 and one of his agreements is don't take anything personally 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.440 because usually when somebody does some bullshit and you would 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.080 have nothing to do with you and exactly what you 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.240 just said, something that's going on with them. 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:30.680 One hundred percent. But then sometimes it's also like pattern recognition, 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:31.360 you know. 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.040 Like why do you keep attracting these type of people? 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:38.200 Yeah, it's like what about me? Makes it feel like 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:42.280 because I because it's it's almost naivete where it's like, oh, 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.320 if I go around through the world and I treat 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.880 people with respect, then people will respect me. Right? Is 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.160 not how it works? And then you're like, oh no, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.800 sometimes you have to make people scared of you, and 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.800 it's it's a Machiavellian like fear is stronger than love. 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:58.280 You know, is there a part of it too that 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.800 like maybe is there like a longing for something from 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.520 those people? Because like you mentioned patterns, and are those 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.120 patterns hurting you when you continue to see them happening 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.280 because you're trying to figure out why you're not worthy 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:09.240 of that changing. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.319 Yeah, I think it was very good. 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.640 I think because you mentioned your relationship with your dad 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.600 a lot. Yeah, and in your letter you talk about 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.440 how he would warn you through he would talk to 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.560 you through stories and warn you about how the world was, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.640 and he's like very stern and very strong. Somewhere in 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.880 there it feels like, you know, there was a longing 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:30.880 for something that you wanted from him, that he tried 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.000 to give you, but it wasn't the way you did it. 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.720 Yeah, which is the oldest story, you know what I mean. 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.880 And it's just but this, this record one hundred percent true, 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.800 and this record is kind of just like I know 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:51.400 that man very well, and in all things, he tries 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:53.280 very hard, you know what I mean. He's a very 0:12:53.280 --> 0:13:00.480 principal man. He's an honest man. But just some things, okay, okay, 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:06.760 get into it. They are just some things, you know, 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.640 like Dad's dry, but there's just some things that Okay, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:13.000 my actual this is all connected, I promise well, my actual, 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:19.280 real theory or real beef is just like, does it 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:25.280 ever feel like like the the way that we structure 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:29.240 societies in the West, the nuclear family, does it ever 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:34.559 feel like that's not natural? So people like like you 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.800 know what I mean, Like, all the all the people 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.520 that I know that are good at monogamy, are good 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:43.839 at you know, just that sort of nuclear family, are white, 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:48.720 you know. And so I'm just I'm not, what do 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.520 you mean? You know all the people I'm talking about 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:55.600 personally through my life, you know what I mean. And 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:05.120 so this this excites this topic excitement, and I'm just like, 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.480 it's so much responsibility to put on one man in 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:13.920 a house to be like, well, for I'm speaking about 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:15.720 for me, Yeah, I would say to be faithful. 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.880 I'm thirty thirty, Ok, you got a different type of 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:19.400 diicted us. 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.880 Oh well that's but that's what I'm saying. Yeah, So 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.080 it's like your your your faith with that man now now. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.240 But but there was a time you're you're supposed to provide. 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:30.880 You're supposed to go out and deal with all the 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.040 ship in the world that you're protecting your family from 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:38.800 your girls. You're supposed to go out provide, protect you 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.000 with all this ship, protect and someone gets to tell 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:44.480 you what you can and can't do with your dick 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:45.600 as well, you know what I mean. 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.160 Like, I don't think it's about somebody telling you what 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:49.880 you can and can't do when you, uh, you know, 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.960 decide to make vows with a woman and you tell God, 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:54.240 this is the woman that I want to spend the 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.000 rest of my life with and be faithful. 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:57.840 You made that commitment. 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.640 Exactly, which is why. And I have a woman in 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.120 my life that I that I love and I care 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.160 about very much. But if she feels irresponded, No, she's not. 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:10.320 She's not. But it feels very irresponsible of me to 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:15.240 make that promise because yeah, I don't think so. I'm like, 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.040 am I gonna be ready when I'm fifty? Where? 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:17.240 Am I? 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:17.800 You know what I mean? 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.600 But that's the way we should be, and most most 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.760 people our age wish we would have been that honest 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:24.800 long time ago. 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:26.840 That's a level of emotional intelligence a lot of us 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:27.200 didn't have. 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:33.640 Yeah, But I just I just think, I just think, 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.880 like so much in the society in which we live 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:41.000 is counterintuitive. I'm like, what were we doing before imperialless, 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.720 before colonialization, when we were you know, wherever we were 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:47.960 on the on the globe, living unbothered by anybody trying 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.760 to take her, exploit or do anything. Is this how 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.640 we set up our families and how we set up 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:58.160 our communities one children, house, neighbors, stay for there, don't 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.200 talk to strangers, like you know, all this sort of 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:02.640 is Is this natural? 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.160 Is this the way we use like isolation? 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.680 It's so isolated. You know, you're a you're in a 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.400 home in the suburbs and you have a car and 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.920 you have a backyard and all this ship is happening 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.360 in everybody's homes and we're supposed to go out and 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.880 like not talk to each other. Look how kids behave 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.240 they're my mom takes pills to go this. They're at 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.560 the at the park talking about my mom does this. 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.280 They want to connect, they want to go out and whatever, 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:29.560 and we're we train them from young No, your neighbor's 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.600 not your friend. That's the thing these societies. There's too 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:33.040 many people and you get on the bus and you 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.200 might get stabbed in your neck or something like because 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.400 there's no trust because everybody you know what I mean. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.920 As you talked about intellectualizing spirit, and I think that's 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.040 what you're doing right now. You're you're intellectualizing your spirit 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:47.960 when you should just feel. 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:52.320 If what you feel is true to you, then let 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:52.840 that be cool. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.600 If you don't feel like you're ready to settle down 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:55.480 with one woman at thirty. 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.360 It's okay, and be honest with that woman. There's nothing 0:16:58.400 --> 0:16:58.800 wrong with that. 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.440 Think is more than that though for you. I think 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:03.320 it's the whole. 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:12.160 It's deep there, it gets. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.399 It was honestly, it was. It was great. It was 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.919 a Caribbean household, you know what I mean. But it 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:20.440 was like, do you know what the thing was? Because 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.879 I have the same experience as so many other people 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:27.680 that look like me. I was the one Caribbean household 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:32.560 on us. I grew up on this this this private 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:37.680 high school academy. My parents, my dad worked there. Right, 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.160 this was a white school, white town, white white, white, white, white, 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.360 white white. And so I'm the old Caribbean family on 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:49.920 this street where all the rich white kids live. Yeah, 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:51.920 they weren't even they weren't even rich. It just felt 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:53.359 like they were rich because they all had cottages and 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.800 ship but they were everyone's making the same amount of 0:17:55.800 --> 0:18:01.560 money and yeah, and so it's it's it's purely just 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:05.399 like everyone. Everyone gets beat as a kid, but like 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.280 when you live on that street, you're the only one 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.520 that gets beat, you know, And then all these things 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:15.400 feel so much more egregious because of because of proximity 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.440 to what everyone's living like around you, you know what 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:17.760 I mean? 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:22.320 And old was your dad was your household growing up 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.640 tight holeshole was just your mom and your dad. 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:28.320 And you've seen that union that you're looking. 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:34.600 For hundred per but I also see what is sacrificed 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.560 in oneself to sustain that. 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.879 So you have conversations with your father though, like about 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:42.520 like about that. Have you had conversations Did he tell 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:43.640 you that he was paid with his wife? 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:48.320 I mean I was happy, yeah, but it's it's kind 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:53.520 of like there are just some things sometimes I look 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.280 at like you like like Mary couples and stuff like that, 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:02.880 if it almost feels like a like a big conspiracy 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:09.040 where it's just like we're married, so of course we're 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.719 happy because we're married, and everyone should want marriage. The 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.480 whole soul society is structured, is based off of people 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:18.320 getting married, having families, going out to their job and 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.119 what you know what I mean, even if you're not, 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:26.720 it's like the reality is like as as over time 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:30.360 as women get more rights in society, divorce goes up. 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.560 So it's like everybody's happy, but it's everybody happy. Everybody's 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.199 getting divorced. My parents are still together, mind you, and 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.719 they love each other and they respect each other. But 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.320 I just sometimes I think and I'm just like I know, 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.600 and I'm the same as my dad. Sometimes it's like 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.560 he's he's bound by honor. He's a man of his word, 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:51.560 you know what I mean. And so it's like you 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.280 are my kids. I'm not going to run out on you, 0:19:53.800 --> 0:20:00.080 but you can't. You can't lie about what's going on 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:04.159 on in your head, Like when you come home and 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:06.560 you're like, bro, this ship again, you know what I mean. 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:11.120 It's like I'm doing the job because I'm bound by 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.040 honor to do the job, but I would rather be 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.080 out being a person, being free right around. 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.280 I get what you're saying. I mean, marriage is all work, 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:19.200 like nobody said it was. 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:21.480 I think when you have and you have conversations with 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.480 married couples like, yeah, it's hard, it's tough, you know. 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:24.719 What I mean. 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:28.639 You're gonna have your good days. 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:28.320 But you have to want to do it. 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:29.159 You gotta want to do it. 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:34.200 Yeah, And for me, you, I have dedicated my life 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.960 to making art, and sometimes it feels as though it's 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:39.560 like they're kind. 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:43.960 Of yeah, you're very young. 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:45.919 But you know what, somebody said this to me yesterday, 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:48.680 right they were doing my kids here and she said, 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:49.480 you know, I'm. 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.480 Surprised to see you like this with your kids. 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:52.800 And I'm like, well, what does that mean? She was like, 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:56.159 I do things here all the time, and usually the 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:58.119 breadwinners make money. When they come home, they go in 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:00.679 their little cocoon and they don't want to their kids. 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:02.320 It was like, but you help your kids with homerate, 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:03.920 you pick them up, you take them to dance, you this, 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.720 that and the other. Because I have a responsibility to 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:07.080 my kids. 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:07.800 I love them. 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.000 It doesn't feel like a job. It doesn't feel like 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:11.720 I'm coming home and oh the fuck I gotta do 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.600 this again. No, that's why I had those kids. That's 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.840 why I love those kids. There are some people that 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.359 feel differently and say, you know what, I'm more into 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.800 my art. I need to create. You take care of 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.280 the kids. But those are the kids that are usually 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:27.800 you know, don't have a father, need a father figure, 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:29.960 have those type of traumas, and have those type of problems. 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:33.520 I care more about raising those kids than any art form, 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:35.560 than any type of money, than anything like that. But 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:38.840 I see that. But that's the commitment that I made 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:41.359 to my family. I didn't have to I didn't have 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:43.080 to have those kids. You didn't have to have kids 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:45.320 or whatever it may be. But once you make that 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:49.000 commitment to have that child or that relationship as a man, 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:50.920 you talk about Anna, you should do it right. 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:53.040 Well, let me know if you need another hairdstyllars of 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:54.840 them kidscause she wasn't supposed to say that to you. 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.960 I'm surprised that you ain't here like that too. 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:00.879 You know when you bring Menican kids who are like 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:19.880 a black you know. 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:14.560 Before we get off this topic, right, because this whole 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.080 conversation reminds me of a sinse of a father the 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:20.760 song that you in your project with. In that project, 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:22.760 you say dad would forgetful. He promised a lot. I 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:24.920 think thankfully he never got called. Then you talk about 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:28.040 forgetting someone's birthday and someone saying I'm sorry, dear, and 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:32.080 you're struggling between the love and honor that your your 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.399 actual father has and the love and honor that the 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:35.960 father above is. 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:36.880 Like you know what I mean? 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:37.680 What? 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.640 So was your dad not like how Envy is describing 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:42.360 he was? Is that were some of this like. 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:46.360 Like that that's what made me like that exactly. 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:51.359 And my dad's dad was an orphan from like from 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:54.560 the slums of Jamaica. The man suffered I could. I 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:58.920 can't around that time, especially with the British over there 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:04.159 fucking doing whatever the British do. The the level of 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.000 abuse that he sustained, I'm sure is horrible, you know, 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.880 And so sometimes I'm just like, no, my out there. 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:13.240 I mean, he probably forgot my birthday. My mom wouldn't 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:15.240 forget my birthday. No no, no, no, not like are you 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.400 only child? No no, no, I got four brothers, three brothers. 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:21.960 But he my One of my favorite stories with my 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:24.640 dad is telling me about what the time that his mom. 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:28.280 He's like at the dinner table with his mom. She's like, 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:30.760 was it your birthday last week or something like that, 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.720 and my dad was like, oh, yeah, I guess it 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:35.480 was my birthday, you know what I mean. And it's 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:39.240 such a small little thing, but You're like, damn, and 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:42.400 my family we're not a birthday family. And I always, 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:48.359 like with girlfriends and stuff, I like Christmas birthdays. I 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:53.320 resent that's like because I will buy you. Sometimes I'll 0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:55.160 be out and I'll see something that makes me think 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:56.600 of you, and I'll be like, I love this girl 0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:58.080 so much, I'm gonna get this for it right now. 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:00.960 But when birthday comes, don't don't look at me, you 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.119 know what I mean, because it's just like I'm not 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:04.159 subscribing to this. 0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.119 I don't like the expectations. 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:10.280 No, I do this all year round, Like why do 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.320 I have to do it on this specific way? 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:14.679 Maybe not for birthday, but definitely for Christmas. 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:17.560 I feel that way exactly. I don't like the I 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:22.960 just don't like that. It's it's there's so many variables 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:28.160 and exterior pressures on us all the times, and I 0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:31.000 get I'm clearly like I get a little neurotic and 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.280 like I'll like follow a train of thought like very 0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:37.280 very deep, and but you know what I'm saying, And 0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:38.440 it's just kind of like, you. 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:42.200 Know, like who are we, you. 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.560 Know, especially because all the systems that we exist in, 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:47.680 like we are the least valuable people in those systems, 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:49.320 you know what I mean. So it's like I resent 0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:52.520 all these systems, all these structures, and so me doing 0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.679 whatever the I want and saying things and and I 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:59.639 can be very obnoxious. I can be very irritating and 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:02.800 annoying sometimes, but it's just like, like how this if 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.840 you start sometimes just being whoever you are is the 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:08.800 is the act of is the rebellion or is the 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:12.200 revolutionary act? It's just like you want me to be this. 0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:13.919 I look like this, so I have to talk like 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:16.280 this and dress like this. No, bro, it's a little weird. 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.840 But he's cool, you know what I mean, that's all. 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:20.960 I wouldn't even label you we exactly well I have, 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.840 I mean who you are, and I appreciate that you 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:28.760 He just healed something in me, right, he is definitely 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.719 think people who call people weird they don't really know themselves. 0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:33.600 I agree. 0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:36.920 At least I've never gonna use that word to you. Ever, 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:44.440 I'm very descriptive. 0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:47.440 I'm very specific. Okay, what part of Daniel ses you do? 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.520 Fans still misunderstand the most? 0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:51.840 And is that your fault? 0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:59.639 Yeah, it is my fault, and definitely my my cynicism 0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:07.280 into humor, you know, or just by yeah, I was 0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:10.080 starting with my cynicism and my sense of humor. Where 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:15.200 it's like like something that happened a couple of months ago, 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:19.080 you know, when when Trump and the Ice things first 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:23.200 started happening. You know, a couple of weeks before. 0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.680 You have some concern because Jamaica by Beatos Canada. You 0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:26.240 just weren't sure. 0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:30.120 Shut up, man, I got a great visa, man, I think, 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:36.480 But I mean he's also who nobody's safe, right? But 0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:40.600 but no, do you remember when when Trump's Instagram first 0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:44.399 started to really get crazy and it was a decade 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.080 at least for me, when I saw this like AI 0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.399 image with the trains, with the planes and the trains 0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:56.919 and no with the the let's start deportations now or 0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:00.239 something like that, and me I saw that and I 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.920 was like, whoa, this is really crazy. What are we 0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.880 living in? Like what is this? And it was It's 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:09.840 funny to me, It's objectively funny. And I get some 0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.280 people will see that. They'll see me like the post 0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:15.679 or something, and they're like this guy, you know, And 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:19.280 I completely get that. I've kind of had to. I 0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:23.080 don't have the processing power, the mental processing power too 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:28.000 in all moments of my life think about what the 0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:32.360 Internet will think about what I do and then move accordingly. 0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:34.720 It's just too it's too much. 0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.720 Yeah, you don't have to like it, Like you can 0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:43.359 mentally look at something you know and see all the 0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:45.560 nuance of it, right, know that it's some bullshit, but 0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:47.720 also maybe kind of find it funny. 0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:49.720 But you don't have to like it, Like you said 0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:51.040 you don't like systems. 0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.200 So who said no? When I say, I mean press 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:54.720 the like button? 0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:56.440 But who said you got to do that? You're only 0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:57.440 doing that because it's there. 0:27:58.119 --> 0:27:59.840 Yeah, so you wanted to. 0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.160 Know that you like it or like do you just no. 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.840 No, no, no, no no, I just I almost like use 0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.919 social media sometimes like a boom or like I am. 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:12.960 One of the New Year's things that I'm doing is 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.240 I'm getting a life phone because I am like with 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.119 my phone it's too much. If I see it and 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.880 I think it's funny, I press like and I keep scrolling. 0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:23.360 Because it's not even. 0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.560 Yeah well yeah no, I was preyed upon by the 0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.199 It's I'm dopamine. I am an addict. That is in 0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.679 my like I am. I have that type of personality. 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:35.640 I'm an addict. So if you get if you make 0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.760 me feel good, then then you're in there. You know 0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.920 what I mean. And it's that's that's another thing in 0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.120 you know, growing up becoming a man, where it's just like, 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.920 oh my god, they're be set by evil on all sides. 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:53.040 Like if I don't exercise self discipline, I'm cooked, you know, aware, 0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.640 I mean, you know, I try else for a dude 0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:57.880 down here, you know, I. 0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.400 Want to I want to talk about have a by 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.120 me before. 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.960 I just I wanted to be clear that my that 0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:11.360 my dad is like he's a He loved us very much, 0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.720 and he was very kind and very gentle. And when 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.640 I hear stories about his upbringing, he went from here 0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.320 to here. That's all I just I'm just very sensitive 0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.720 and so whatever it was, you know, but. 0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.800 He agreed as a man, not as your dad exactly. 0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.600 You know. The one more quick thing cleared us up. 0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:30.160 Do you support Trump? No? 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:35.880 I think he's hilarious, and I think that America. I 0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:39.840 think Trump is the president that he I think Trump 0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.880 was inevitable and I think what he's what ice is 0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:46.200 going on? Yeah, this is this is how the country started. 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.080 It's a criminal ass, you know what I mean. It 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.080 was eventually going to get here, and now it's like. 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:52.520 Trump is the Frankenstein Monster of white. 0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:56.160 Supremacist exactly exactly. And now it's like now there's I 0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:59.320 used to shooting white ladies. Now everyone's scared. You know 0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.840 what I mean. This was always eventually these systems that 0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.440 it's like, oh no, they're over in Africa. Fu them, 0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.840 you know they're over in over there. Fuck them now, 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.160 they're now they're shooting suburban white ladies. You know what 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:11.440 I mean? 0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.880 You should unlike the post. 0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.560 But and you know what, and here comes the main 0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:22.479 flaw in my character. Don't tell me what, don't tell 0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:28.200 what to do, and don't try and don't try it right, 0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:35.080 and I will the universe God will, I will, I 0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:35.920 will suffer. And I have. 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.280 Get a phone like a phone where it's. 0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.760 A light phone. No, it's like no apps. I just 0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:44.880 need to get off. Yeah, it's like you can get 0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:46.720 music and you can get maps. 0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:47.800 You know what you should do? 0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:52.200 Don't give me a hundred thousand dollars, don't. 0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:53.000 You should not do. 0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:57.800 Don't give me you can program that into my brain 0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.960 while giving me dopamine, then that would work. 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:02.360 Don't give me a million dollars. 0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:03.640 Do you needs dope? 0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:03.920 Mother? 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:19.000 Don't give me. 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.080 So okay, So, because you said you don't like to 0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:17.880 be told what not to do, right, but you're getting 0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.520 this phone that doesn't have these apps because you're getting 0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.720 the backlash to the things that you're doing exactly. 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.160 So it's like I am putting I have to put 0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:30.760 up the parameters for myself. I am gonna just whatever. 0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:32.760 It's the same with dealing with money. I have to 0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:37.280 set up things with my business manager because I don't. 0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.000 I can't. 0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.480 You know yourself that I. 0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.000 Got to put myself in my own cage. Somebody else 0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:44.920 will put me in a case. Good. 0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.800 The yes Jewels moment kind of get you here too, Yeah, 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:50.400 yes Jewels moment. 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:51.840 Oh it's iconic. 0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:57.000 Okay, I didn't know you were iconic, but so, yes 0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.560 Jewels was People were coming for her because she had 0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.920 posted that T shirt that or it came back up 0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.320 the niggas lie a Lot T shirt and then she. 0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:05.880 She wore a T shirt that said niggas lie. 0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.640 She had tweets she had posted the shirt, and people 0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:10.480 were coming for her, just talking about the whole cultural 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.680 appropriation thing like they always do with her and oh white, 0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:18.200 Yeah she's white, and you got online in a drunk 0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.280 rint and you basically said people should leave her alone. 0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:21.640 She should be able to say what she wants to say. 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.960 Because we're mean to people, but we act like we 0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.840 don't understand why people have a reaction. I can read 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:28.560 your words, veriato. But that was me summarizing it. 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:33.800 No one, and I mean, this is great. It was 0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:39.719 it was I internalize everything, and that's that's the whole thing. 0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:45.600 Like I was like, I internalize everything. You guys should 0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:48.800 internalize everything, and then you'll get all this and all 0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:49.760 this is nothing. 0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.520 I disagree. I don't like, yeah you don't. 0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:53.880 No no no no no no no no no, but 0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.680 I agree. But that that was where that was coming from. 0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:02.960 That's what that was. And on and for years after, 0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:04.480 you know what I mean, it's like, these things aren't 0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:06.200 gonna boo me out of nothing. No, this is I 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.440 believe that, and I still believe it. And as time 0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:12.160 is passed, I'm like, oh they were, No, they were 0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.680 one hundred percent right. That is what you when you 0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:18.640 accept this type of behavior from people that throughout history 0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.000 have exemplified to you that they hate you, and then 0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:24.560 you accept the behavior to get out of the circumstances 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:29.680 that you're in. You are giving up. You were giving up. 0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:32.280 It's it's undignified. You're giving up your own dignity, which 0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:35.880 I never really it never crossed my mind, you know 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:37.480 what I mean, because it was just kind of like 0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:40.800 the way it when I say survival, it's not like 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:42.440 I ever feared for my life or anything like that, 0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:43.680 you know what I mean. But it was just like 0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:49.200 growing up I had to be personally the way that 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.840 I moved to the world was like, yeah, bro, white 0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.560 people are like, you know what I mean, That's just 0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.120 that's just how they are. And I don't really see 0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.120 them because they don't even know half the time, they 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.360 don't even know the weird ship that they be doing 0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:03.920 or the way they move to the world, you know 0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:04.280 what I mean. 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:05.160 Disagree with that. 0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:08.840 I say that when it comes to legislation, like we 0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.000 talk about systems, like somebody had to create the system, 0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.719 so clearly somebody knew what was doing. If you put you, 0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:15.440 if you was label somebody only three quarters of a 0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:17.920 human being, Yeah, that's an intentional choice. 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:24.000 Well okay, yes, and that's your in the spirit of 0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:30.959 self awareness, my I don't even subscribe to or participate 0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:35.480 in politics because I'm like, I don't have the the 0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:43.200 the bandwidth, the mental bandwidth, like dealing with what's the 0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:49.160 word you just used, legislation, legislation, all that stuff. I'm like, 0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.719 I just kind of assume whatever does come of of 0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:56.040 all that doesn't involve me, you know what I mean, 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:56.520 Like I'm not. 0:34:56.719 --> 0:35:00.800 It involves as Yeah, but I love with Nina turns 0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:01.319 that you don't. 0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.359 You may not do politics, but politics is eventually gonna 0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:04.160 do you. Yeah. 0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.200 No, I get, I get what you're saying, but I 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.799 just mean, like I then that's my cynicism. I don't 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:13.439 believe that any level of participation, that like any level 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:18.280 that I participate in politics, well that actually the country 0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.760 is founded on racism. I just don't think that playing 0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:25.680 the game of politics will solve the issue. It's like, 0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.279 I think politics is downstream from a deeper issue, a 0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:33.239 spiritual issue, you know, like politics is dealing in the 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:39.680 physical like like mind proceeds, mind prospedes, proceeds, Spirit proceeds form, 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.200 you know what I mean. So it's like what we're 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:48.680 dealing with is like, what we're dealing with is is 0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:52.280 evil politics. I just don't me personally. 0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.000 To be able to you know, you know, elections do 0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.440 have consequences, and I mean when you see you know, 0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.200 people's civil liberties being rolled back the way that they 0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:03.400 are now, then. 0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:04.960 You have to disagree with yourself. 0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:08.200 Yeah No, but I just think I personally assumed that whoever, 0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.560 if we put Kamala, Kamala, whoever we put in there, 0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:13.880 eventually this is gonna happen. That's my personal But that's cynicism. 0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:17.279 And maybe if we vote right, one day, America, black 0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.480 people will run America and it will be our country. 0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.040 I don't, I mean, I don't know. It just doesn't feel. 0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:24.360 It just doesn't. 0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:28.800 What I was asking. I was gonna ask, was that 0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:32.440 your is that your homie or stand up? 0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.360 That was also I mean, that was like a trauma response. 0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.640 It was just like I saw when I look at 0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:42.080 Yes Jules, I see an orphan girl that that that 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.520 wants to be black, you know what I mean. And 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.239 I'm like, damn, that's so mean, bro. 0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:51.440 She doesn't like she could come to your at that time. Now. 0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:54.600 But I don't know nothing about it, I guess. 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:59.920 I mean, I was just like I felt bad for her, 0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:02.880 especially being a black kid that grew up surrounded by 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.360 white people. I'm like, what the way she grew up? 0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.840 What is she supposed to do? She's trying to embody 0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:09.400 what she understands. 0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:10.799 Is so different than hers. 0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.640 And I think, yes, Jeweles, I think yes, Jewels is 0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:17.719 a like, it's not even about her. The conversation that 0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.320 people try to have about her is a bigger conversation 0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.960 about what we allow culturally and what we should protect 0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.800 and all those things. So I think that's where people's 0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:28.680 frustration comes in when you jump out the window for 0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:30.200 her and it's not just about her, you know what 0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:33.759 I mean. But said, he's trying to explain that this 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.080 is he understands it now because. 0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:38.520 Of his Yeah, no, no, no, I don't, and I wouldn't. 0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:40.080 It was a. 0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.920 It was meant to happen. It was meant And I 0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:47.359 almost don't regret it because I don't think I would 0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.960 have come to this understanding of what's going on in 0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.480 myself and in the world around me if I hadn't 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:57.319 done that, you know, because I was just like internalizing 0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.719 and I didn't realize. I was like, oh my god, 0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.279 all this choosing to internalize. They called me a coup 0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.279 and I was like, I was like, there's no way 0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:06.359 because I think this, this and this and this m hm. 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:08.879 And then I'm like, oh my god, have I been 0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:14.600 sacrificing my dignity by internalizing things. Sometimes when someone comes 0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:16.520 to you the wrong way, you're supposed to crash out 0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:19.680 immediately on the spot, you know. But there's just been 0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.480 so many moments in my life where someone says something 0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.440 that's a little weird or whatever, and I'm just like, 0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.120 you know, your fight or flight, and you're like, wait, 0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.400 is that weird? Am I supposed to cuss out everybody 0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:33.160 in this room right now? Am I supposed to stop? 0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:34.400 You know? 0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:35.799 So basically, you just. 0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:37.759 Saw a girl that wanted to be black, that just 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.560 you know, wore shirt that it didn't really mean anything 0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:40.960 to you. 0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:43.200 It was just like, yo, this is just another girl 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.000 orphan shown she want to be black. 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.040 It's naive because I was moving to the world really 0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:52.080 believing like, oh maybe we could all come together and 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:55.719 understand each other and be like spending this much time 0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.279 in America, I'm like, oh no. But if you think 0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:11.560 all all all or no all virality. All virality are 0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.919 all like codes of codes of moving through the world, 0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:19.040 It's like, oh my god. If you follow it to 0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.480 any thought process at the very end, it's like, all right, 0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:24.040 who who are we killing? That's actually what it is. 0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:26.840 Someone's gotta die. That's how this whole world is set up. 0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:29.239 It's like these group of people believe this, and we 0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:31.680 believe this, and we will never agree, so we have 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:32.319 to kill them. 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.720 Damn, Dan, What did you ultimately learn from this situation? 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:39.640 So that's what I'm getting. I'm getting that you learned 0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:40.560 something from that, Sue. 0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:47.960 I did, and the niggas don't lie, like, Yeah, I learned. 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:53.880 I learned. It's it's a ship show out here and 0:39:54.160 --> 0:40:03.920 all that I can How do I say this? I 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:07.840 can only control me and the world around me is 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:13.400 is is of my own creation, you know. And you 0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.759 go through things and you experience them, and if you 0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.880 don't want it to happen again, you look at what 0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:21.240 went wrong and you try and adjust. 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.560 Did the backlash your faith make you more guarded as 0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.440 an artist? Are more honest? 0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:31.279 More guarded? And now more honest? Because it's all like 0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.680 it forever changed the trajectory of my whole life. 0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:36.440 You know, really, what do you mean? 0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:40.200 Yeah? For sure? Because it was just I just I 0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:42.080 thought I was being honest with myself and that I 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:46.080 didn't realize how first. I didn't realize how much anger 0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:47.800 and hatred I had in my own heart. 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.040 For who your own people are. 0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.600 No no, no, no, I mean for the world around 0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:57.560 me and for myself. It's kind of it's all like 0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:02.200 hete It's all like I am you you are. Yeah, 0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:06.440 it's all the same. It's all flowing the separation that 0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:08.360 you are a different person than me, and you and 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.320 you have your own life. It's not real. You know, 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:15.080 you drop some acid and you're like, oh, we're actually 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:18.879 all one. We're all just different leaves on a tree. 0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:24.680 You know. The separation that we think we feel it is. 0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:29.560 It's mercy. It's mercy because the reality is that there's 0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:35.040 only one spirit and it's floating out in space and 0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.480 it's alone. The reality of existence is that we were 0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:42.120 alone and there's only I'm a figment of your imagination. 0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:46.200 I am you're figuring in my imagination. I am actually 0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.520 the center of the universe. None of you guys are real. 0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.920 But also I am a figuring of your imagination. I'm 0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.920 not real. We're You're alone. There's nobody else here. 0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:58.440 You're all just energies moving through time. I swear I 0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.799 heard Jim Carry say something like this. I mean it's 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:04.480 like where I literally heard somebody say this. Sorry Jim 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.120 if you didn't, but I thought he said something like 0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:08.800 this before one of them Golden globes. 0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:14.600 Uh, the spiritual practices of anyone free colonialism? 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.800 Do you dos or ayahuasca or anything like that? 0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:19.720 Is that you okay? 0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:20.080 Oh? 0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:20.840 Acid? 0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:24.040 Oh you're talking about like that? I mean like on 0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:28.239 a bado? Okay, all right, you know what I'm saying at. 0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:30.520 Okay? 0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:30.759 Cool. 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:32.960 That's interesting though, because I feel the exact opposite. I 0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.400 feel like, you know, human connection is the only reason 0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:36.920 that we exist, no, I. 0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:42.080 Based That's why we yearn so much for it. Because 0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:46.600 when you connect with someone, even when you it's like 0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:48.440 you're long for connection, Like you see a girl and 0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:50.200 she's so beautiful, you know, and you go and talk 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:54.800 to her m hm, and she doesn't like you, and 0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.759 you're like damn, and that pain that you feel where 0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.440 it's like, what's wrong with me? And then you realize 0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.719 it's beautiful because I really believe in that moment that 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.600 she's not me, and so I'm not alone. And then 0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:10.680 you meet you meet someone and you fall in love 0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.120 with them and it's the beautiful and you have a 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:17.880 crazy experience together and it's the same. It's like, oh 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:19.960 my god, I'm not alone in this world, you know. 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.520 And then things happen and it's you know, and then 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:32.200 you are alone again, and then you remember, do you 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:38.000 feel me? Yeah? No, but it's yeah and then and 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:42.560 then yeah. But no. Life is about human connection, and 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.080 that's kind of the whole way I've structured my life, 0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.920 you know. I write songs about human connection. And that's why. 0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:49.719 Another reason why marriage is scared to me, because it's 0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:52.680 like to to choose to marry is to be like, 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.279 all right, connection, got it? 0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:59.839 No more connection, because then the connection don't always That's 0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:02.600 what we mess up. Connections don't always have to be romantic. 0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.160 Connections don't always have to be you know, intimate on 0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:07.800 a sexual level. Connections can be a new friend that 0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:09.840 you meet. Connection can be somebody that you get in 0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:11.840 the studio with that's a producer, and y'all connect and 0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.160 y'all create something that's an amazing. 0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:17.080 That's what he's talking about. 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:20.440 Run Through is crazy you ever had, You've never like 0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.880 the I am it's dop. I mean, the most powerful 0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:29.280 connection is the connection that is is eros is a gape, 0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.319 you know what I mean. It's all the different types 0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:35.799 of love one can experience more than you always rod. 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:37.560 That's what I just told you. 0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:38.600 Trying to run through. 0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:40.120 Yeah, but you don't always have to do that. 0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.760 Like, Actually, to me, one of the most powerful connections 0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:44.440 is when you meet a woman, like you know, all 0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:46.680 of these women in this room, even from Natina and down, 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:48.040 are women that I have met. 0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.120 There's no sexual attraction. Even to people that I consider 0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:54.560 my homegirls, my sisters. I love them. Sometimes that is 0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:56.279 the more powerful dopamine hit than. 0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:58.960 I feel like you're understand. I'm not saying that I 0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:00.800 can't have don't have friendship. 0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:03.160 You're talking about that first feeling when you fall in 0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:04.879 love and it's energetic and it's like whatever. 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.080 Right, But I think because they've. 0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:10.960 Been married for a lot of time, right, what I'm 0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:13.759 what I think you're missing from what they're saying is 0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:18.320 that even with your partner, if you're just talking about wife, husband, girlfriend, boyfriend, 0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.840 there are so many different experiences where that same dopamine 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.399 feeling comes with that same person, just depending on where 0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.000 you are in the relationship, what's happening. It's work, though, 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:30.360 and I think people out of that work to refill 0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.840 that feeling because you think it's only one instant that 0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:34.600 it's a great point for a single person. 0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:37.120 I'm not gonna front learn that a good point envy. 0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.759 I'm sure you know playing with me. There's certain points. 0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:41.560 That you get older and you look at your wife 0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.480 sometime you're like, damn, man, I hit the lottery, Like 0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:45.080 I love. 0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:50.319 My wife all the time. Absolutely, I'm doing the same. 0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:53.200 Ask a question when you were younger, did you have 0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.640 a lot of girlfriends or were you the the one 0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:57.520 that didn't that because you went to a white school, 0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:59.040 they didn't appreciate you like they should have. 0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:03.200 Yeah, I didn't. I didn't date until ninth grade. 0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:05.319 And that's the reason why he probably feels the way 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.400 that he did. He never really felt accepted when you 0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:09.000 was growing up as a kid. He never had the love. 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:10.160 He never had that friendship. 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:13.920 They called you ugly all that stuff. 0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:15.640 But that's that's the reason. 0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:17.440 But that's the reason he's act like like he is 0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:19.920 because he never had that love growing up. So now 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.680 when he's a celebrity, he's a star, he can pick 0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:23.799 and choose with whatever. 0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.279 And even then though it gets empty at some point 0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:28.200 because and have a baby, it'll get me, right. 0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:34.399 Of course, it gets but yeah with me in Penthes, yeah, 0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:35.720 because that's that was funny. 0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:40.120 Have a baby with me, like yeah, but not with the. 0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:42.320 Other dude, like what woman left you that you was like, 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:44.840 don't leave, please, I'll I'll put a baby. 0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:45.160 And you don't leave. 0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:52.920 Okay, no, no no. So that's like the girl that 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:57.880 I wrote my first Frediano was Yeah, that was like 0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:04.200 a whole that was a whole thing. And but I 0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:11.320 have a baby is like, it's funny to put it 0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:16.120 in parentheses. Yeah, because of the experiences that I had. 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:25.439 That's my other thing, like with you're really okay, So yeah, 0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:35.080 you guys, you nailed it. It's in relationships. I can't 0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:41.520 help but feel like it's about controlling what the other 0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:46.680 person does. I feel controlled when i'm this person. I 0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.080 feel like going over here and doing this and running 0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:51.960 around and doing that. And you tell me it hurts you. 0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:56.360 But I'm just being myself, you know. So what do 0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:57.520 you want me to do? You want me to be 0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:01.640 somebody else? This is I didn't get you by being 0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.640 somebody else. I got you by being myself. You know. 0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:08.200 But at a part in the song when you're talking 0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:09.920 to her, it sounds like she's like putting her clothes on, 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.360 she's about to leave. But figure that's like the physical, 0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:15.960 but in like thinking about it, she's kind of tapping 0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:18.560 out of the relationship, right, You're almost like begging her 0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:22.279 to not at some point because you realize that you 0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:24.040 started all these little fires and it got you to 0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:25.520 this point and you just want to give her that 0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:27.800 dream like what she thought or where she thought you 0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:31.080 guys would end up. So how how are two things synonymous? 0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:32.960 Like how do you feel like that? But then when 0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:34.520 she's putting on her clothes and she's ready to leave, 0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:36.640 you like, no, have a baby with me and with me, like, 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:37.239 let's do it. 0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:38.680 How is that? 0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:39.160 Yeah? 0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:43.239 Ass toxic? Yeah, said SELFI Yeah, I'm glad. This is 0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:44.720 very self aware selfish. 0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:47.160 That's kind of I mean, that's being an artist. That's 0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:50.480 the thing being an artist is like that is that 0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:52.480 you can't be a good artist and not be selfish. 0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:56.120 It's about I experienced stimuli from the outside world, and 0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:58.319 I'm not worried about the outside world. I'm worried about 0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:00.279 how I feel about it, because then I go to 0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.759 the studio and I and I do what I gotta do, 0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:05.840 and I process it and I go through it. 0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:08.560 I'm not worried about Which is the greatest dopa main 0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:09.719 high ever for you? 0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:13.680 Life literal value? You know, what I mean changed. 0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:15.640 Was it a woman that made you start acting like that? 0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:19.680 Or when you started being the one that these women 0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:22.960 started liking it changed you? Because at one time, I'm 0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:26.760 sure you didn't feel accepted you maybe it was rejection. 0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:28.759 How you know it's not just the fame or the 0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:30.160 money or a celebrity. 0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:34.080 I mean, don't you don't know? You don't know, it's 0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:35.239 only over time. 0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:39.040 And is that why you're being selfish? Like I don't 0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:40.640 know why you liked me because they didn't like me. 0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:43.840 So I'm just gonna sling dick to everybody have a 0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:44.719 baby with me? 0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:48.480 Yeah, because I because I want an artifact of our love. 0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:51.080 I want an artifact. 0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:58.120 Idea of what read No no, no, yeah, not in 0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.279 the buns in the bun no no no, no no no, 0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:03.239 no one's pregnant, no no no yeah. 0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:06.759 Give them some time to process the question though internalized. 0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:13.759 Go ahead, that's so interesting. Artifact that crazy? Yes, yes, 0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:14.759 you want to. 0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:17.319 You're stopping a gift shop at. 0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:21.640 They call a baby that? Yeah, that's crazy. 0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:23.799 Look at my souvenir. He's six today. 0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:27.320 What we'll holler next year Christmas? 0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:30.840 You know? Just interesting. 0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:33.640 I think once you get through this to take that 0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:35.880 text back you said somebody that you. 0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:40.560 No, I definitely said that, and I've said that a bunch. 0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:42.200 They be eating it up. What they be saying it back? 0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:46.000 No, it'll be texting it's no, no, no, it's I 0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:48.839 use I use that term when I'm in debate about 0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:52.560 the subjects, not when I'm talking m which I guess 0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:56.560 maybe yes now that yes. 0:50:57.400 --> 0:51:00.120 The question is this album more of a confession, our 0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:02.720 therapy session or our spiritual reckoning? 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:05.919 Mm hmm. 0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:14.480 I mean I personally always get to spiritual reckoning through confession. 0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:20.359 I love the thought of singing it that you can 0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:22.640 say whatever you want when you're singing it, and you 0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:24.680 can say a lot of things. I mean, a lot 0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.800 of things have been said here today that are insane 0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:31.040 to say in conversation with strangers. But and that's that's 0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:31.560 just something I. 0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:31.880 Like to do. 0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:33.320 But it's still a conversation, you know. 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:35.759 It's how you feel, and it's connection. I feel like 0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:39.719 I'm i feel you know, more connection, I feel you know. 0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:44.759 But yeah, I would say spiritual reckoning. I would say 0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:49.680 spiritual reckoning, but it's it's I'm still caught up on 0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:53.759 this artifact. I when I say artifact. I mean like, 0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:57.759 I don't mean I want to have a kid and 0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:00.960 then disappear. I don't believe in that. I'm like my 0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:05.320 dad where it's like like bound by honor, you know, 0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:11.440 to something like that. It's just more of a it's 0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:16.000 more of a I don't think I can be married. 0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:17.040 Hmm. 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:18.080 I just want to co parent. 0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:19.440 You said all of that just to say this. 0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:20.880 I just want you to know you just want a 0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:21.399 cold parent. 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:22.560 I give him a copy of your book. 0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:24.600 Just has a book coming out called Tell Death Parent 0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:27.760 Privileged Publishing, Simon and Shooter, and it's all about cold parenting. 0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:31.560 So I just okay, So so you co parent, co 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:35.120 parent well with my son's father yet so she's married 0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:38.919 to Yeah, but I'm not married to my son's father. 0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:41.279 I'm married just father was divorce or was it just 0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:42.160 a no? No? 0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:43.360 No, that was just a relationship. 0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:45.600 We met when we were with nineteen or something like that, 0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:47.839 and I had we had a track of their love 0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:53.040 and oh, my master, Ashton, if you were not, but yes, 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:54.120 we did have anot of fact. 0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:56.840 His name is yes, Ashton, my name is Ashton. 0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:59.680 Is it thought your name is Daniel? 0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:01.680 No? No, no, no, that was a whole other. My 0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:03.600 dad was like, if you're not going to send gospel music, 0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:05.600 you can't use my name. Wow damn. 0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:07.080 Okay, So. 0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:10.480 Okay, so you've never been divorced. 0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:12.600 No, that's my first time being married. 0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:12.960 I love it. 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:14.040 It's great. 0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:17.759 Okay, I've only been married for like seven eight months though, 0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:19.080 but yeap, so we're nearly words. 0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:21.160 But yeah, I love it. Okay, you're going to read 0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:24.120 this book. Yes, you can have this. 0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.560 Advise him to start out co parenting first if he 0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:31.840 knows what's to do, or do you advise himself? 0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:36.000 No, no, no, no no, I would bringing it back 0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:37.880 down and you were saying you have a kid, go 0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:42.200 Actually you were just saying, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, no, just. 0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:47.960 Like I am just kind of like I'm just very 0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:52.560 anti divorced, and I'm just like, why why why can't 0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:55.880 I just im someone what I know? Would I believe 0:53:56.000 --> 0:54:00.839 that I can promise them or I could promise them 0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:02.839 more than I think we could. I should promise them, 0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.040 We get divorced, and then we still end up doing 0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:09.280 this anyhow, how many people are out here we speak, 0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:13.040 self aware and trying to circumvent and maybe that's it's 0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.360 maybe it's coward it's trying to circumvent the pain or 0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:18.280 the you know, but it's kind of like a long 0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:18.879 way there. 0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:21.200 It's like yo, shortcut baby, all right, let's go parent 0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:23.160 right here right now, because I know I cannot be. 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.120 I can't participate in the active monogamy with you right now, 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:28.480 like because that's not how I feel marriage. It does 0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:30.919 not serve me. I don't like it, all the things 0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:33.359 attached to it. I do want a child. I want 0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:35.840 my own offspring, though, and I would love to co 0:54:35.960 --> 0:54:36.400 parent with you. 0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:37.080 That's what it is. 0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:39.880 So you got to find somebody that's like you, that 0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:41.440 that is okay. 0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:42.480 With that to do that with. 0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:43.920 And there are women like. 0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:46.040 Your money and your shoes as well, and you play 0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:47.000 around with these women like that. 0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:58.879 Confidence at least. But no, no, no, but you who 0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:03.960 will do that? Here's and here's the thing. Because I've 0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:08.279 been so honest today, I understand that there's probably it's 0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:16.480 easy to assume that that I have a deep that 0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:21.200 I don't understand women are like or how like I'm 0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:24.400 a sitting duck for getting exploited by a woman that 0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:27.399 just wants it for my money. I've been, I've been, 0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:31.000 you know what I mean I know I can pick 0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:35.520 a woman to have a child with me. I have values, 0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:41.440 you know, and they sometimes it's like that's another thing, 0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:44.640 is like sometimes the woman that aligns with my values 0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:47.680 actually find this often the woman that aligns the most 0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:52.279 with my values does not make me feel passion, But 0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:55.239 she's she's a very good person. 0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:59.480 And a great baby maker. 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:02.320 No, no, not even not even it's not even like 0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:05.520 even like she's like not even a sexual thing. It's 0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:08.520 just like her values. I respect her values. You know, 0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:20.319 how much time do you have? Okay, I have another well, 0:56:20.680 --> 0:56:22.520 I mean off off screen. You guys are calling me 0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:29.520 as Daniel. Okay, this is another I'm filled with theories, 0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:39.160 and I think one of the major reasons as to why, 0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:41.719 and people are gonna be upset with me for saying this, 0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:47.240 as to why, uh, the institution of marriage is suffering 0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:51.279 so much, is because I personally think that there was 0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:54.719 farther back in society. It's this the whole thing, like 0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:59.279 withou like farther farther back in time, there was a 0:56:59.360 --> 0:57:04.279 clear distinctnction amongst the classes of women in society. MM, 0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:08.239 there were there were women that you court and they 0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:10.239 don't and they're you know what I mean, and that 0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:12.320 you don't have sex before marriage and all this stuff, 0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:14.600 and then you know, you do the whole thing. And 0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:17.640 there were prostitutes and there was a clear distinction in 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:19.120 society and men weren't just. 0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:25.720 Like between visits and no's and black queens exactly. I 0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:27.440 don't know I agree with that, but I understand what 0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:27.800 you're saying. 0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:33.040 I also, because all people are I'm talking about the 0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:35.520 systems in which we live, they had to pick. You 0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:39.000 have to pick all women because all women want to 0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:43.320 be free and too experience prostitutes. The benefit of being 0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:46.240 prostitute is you get to you're not beholding to all 0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:48.480 these different rules that the wives have to beholden to. 0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:51.040 You could be free. You can move to society as 0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:53.800 you want, you know what I mean. However, obviously your 0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:57.880 life is highly in danger. You know all these different you're. 0:57:58.320 --> 0:58:01.040 Extreme as prostitute. There's mischief that feels like that the 0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:02.800 mistress I feels like I don't want to be the wife. 0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:04.840 I'm just happy being I know. 0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:07.200 But now we're getting into two subgroups. If you if 0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:09.720 you boil it down, it's like the wife is going 0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:12.120 to call the mistress of prostitute same thing, you know 0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:13.040 what I mean pretty much. 0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:16.840 Yeah, the girl that excites you that you have a 0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:19.720 baby with, she's on the courting side for sure, or 0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:21.160 is she on the prostitute side? 0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:22.760 Who knows. 0:58:24.560 --> 0:58:24.960 Exactly? 0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:28.880 And this is actually actually where I have to Yeah, 0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:30.720 you stop talking about it. 0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:35.640 Because now, Yeah, one of my favorite songs on the album, by. 0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:39.160 The way, it's awesome, my favorite. Man. 0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:43.600 You have one of the most beautiful voices ever, so talented. 0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:44.720 I'm so glad to meet you. 0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:47.040 So that actually might be the most honest song on 0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:47.520 the album. 0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:50.120 Probably a waste of your time. 0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:52.720 Yeah, because I think that if all of us, I 0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:54.760 think that's the problem, right, Like all of us act 0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:57.480 like we know, and none of us truly do. 0:58:57.920 --> 0:59:01.160 We just know what we believe in whatever moment in 0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:02.520 time that we're in. 0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:05.520 And if you're really doing this life thing right, you 0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:09.200 remain open and you allow yourself to change in evall, 0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:12.160 So you'll probably be saying who knows for the rest 0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:12.600 of your life. 0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:14.280 Who knows is actually always the right answer? 0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:24.640 Yeah, Yeah, that is, yeah, very like, yeah, do what 0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:30.960 that will like? Yeah? Yeah, who knows? So you just 0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:34.080 whatever you think you're supposed to do is really the 0:59:34.200 --> 0:59:36.640 only thing that you can afford. 0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:38.040 To be doing and think about all the stuff we 0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:41.720 stress about that we truly don't know, you know what 0:59:41.760 --> 0:59:44.480 I'm saying, Like all of these meanings of life and 0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:46.600 where we go after we die, who we pray to, 0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:49.760 all of these different things, who actually knows? 0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:51.840 Nobody really knows. 0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:58.360 And yeah, but learning to to live with that is. 1:00:00.320 --> 1:00:04.120 It's kind of like I've been in this space lately 1:00:04.160 --> 1:00:09.720 where I'm like, I used to think be thinking so 1:00:10.120 --> 1:00:12.400 hard and so deeply on things, was like would give 1:00:12.440 --> 1:00:15.080 me a leg up or an advantage and moving to 1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:18.680 the world, And I'm like, Oh, I actually think it's 1:00:19.200 --> 1:00:22.120 it's yeah, thinking is, yeah, you know what I mean, 1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:26.400 Because it's you can't control after a certain point. If 1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:29.000 you want to control outcomes, you have to be willing 1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:32.240 to enact violence on others or to lie, to cheat, 1:00:32.320 --> 1:00:35.320 or to steal. So it's just kind of like, yeah, 1:00:35.480 --> 1:00:36.320 he's gonna move. 1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:39.720 On the song moon, you ask, who's gonna be my Jesus? 1:00:40.800 --> 1:00:43.440 How does your dad feel when he hears you say 1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:43.960 things like that. 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:48.040 At this At this point, he's like he just doesn't 1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:51.640 like cursing. It's very very cribbing like that. Every everything else. 1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:55.040 He's like, uh, you know what, he's gonna be Okay, 1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:57.360 He's not a dummy, so he'll like, he'll figure it out. 1:00:58.040 --> 1:01:01.200 He doesn't agree though. Yeah. 1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:03.320 It's my last question. Man, if you could sit with 1:01:03.400 --> 1:01:08.320 the version of yourself who first dropped the Fruitian Freudiandian Freudian, 1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:12.160 what warning would you give that young brother and what 1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:14.200 hope would you offer him? 1:01:16.160 --> 1:01:22.240 I would tell him there is nothing to fear, and 1:01:22.800 --> 1:01:25.360 literally just that, and if you are afraid, you can 1:01:25.520 --> 1:01:28.360 just go and sit down somewhere until you're not afraid, 1:01:29.920 --> 1:01:32.680 you know. But making decisions and moving to the world 1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:41.040 afraid is it's the only way you'll have regrets. I 1:01:41.160 --> 1:01:48.280 feel making like fight or flight decisions. I think I'd 1:01:48.280 --> 1:01:50.160 have to think about that more. But off the top 1:01:50.200 --> 1:01:52.880 of my head, yeah, being afraid, it's like, there's no 1:01:53.000 --> 1:01:55.720 need to be afraid. You're good at your job. Just 1:01:55.800 --> 1:01:56.840 be good at your job and do it. 1:01:57.600 --> 1:01:59.120 But what do you want to hear that Let's get 1:01:59.120 --> 1:02:02.360 something off down on right now. What's your favorite record 1:02:02.440 --> 1:02:05.240 that you would love the masters to hear. I feel 1:02:05.240 --> 1:02:08.040 like you should play a couple We're already gonna play 1:02:08.160 --> 1:02:10.040 have a baby with Me. Yeah, that's the single, right. 1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:11.040 The next single, who Knows? 1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:14.560 That was good, definitely who Knows, Who Knows? Who Knows? 1:02:14.880 --> 1:02:17.040 And then you got a look at your album to 1:02:17.080 --> 1:02:17.480 see what's on. 1:02:17.680 --> 1:02:21.120 I do because I'm this conversation is very exciting for. 1:02:21.200 --> 1:02:22.040 Me, so I love that. 1:02:22.720 --> 1:02:29.120 Yeah, that's good, that's the win. I would say, who knows, 1:02:31.880 --> 1:02:32.640 rain down. 1:02:32.800 --> 1:02:37.920 Rain Down. We appreciate you for joining us. Absolutely, it 1:02:38.040 --> 1:02:38.960 was a great conversation for you. 1:02:40.200 --> 1:02:46.960 Absolutely absolutely check you, Vie. 1:02:47.880 --> 1:02:49.240 We might hurt you when you come back, but. 1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:57.960 Genuine Caesar is the breakfast club. Good morning, every day, 1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:00.800 breakfast club. 1:03:01.120 --> 1:03:02.240 You're clinical, yachdum