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Speaker 1: Every day waiting.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast club finish, y'all done morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is d j en Vy just hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club Longla Roses

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Speaker 4: here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Indeed,

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Speaker 4: ladies and gentlemen, Daniel Season welcome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: How you feel?

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Speaker 1: Nobody yourself gets it? I'm great, I'm great. I I

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Speaker 1: just got out of four eight hours of uh stomach

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Speaker 1: not stomach flu. What's the other one?

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Speaker 2: Bad?

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Speaker 1: Bad sandwich? I feel I feel renewed. I feel like

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Speaker 1: a new person. Oh yeah, you show.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't the stomach, but you know, the stomach virus

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Speaker 3: was going around.

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Speaker 1: I've been hearing about that, but it was like a

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Speaker 1: day a day.

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Speaker 3: That's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: What a talented R and B singer you are?

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Speaker 3: You are absolutely.

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Speaker 5: I was listening to the Sun of Spurgey album for

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Speaker 5: first I explained the title son a spur Spurgy is

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Speaker 5: how he pronounce it, spurgy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's my dad's. My dad's nickname is from Jamaica.

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Speaker 1: He likes to anytime he's talking, he'll he'll go into

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Speaker 1: a sermon at any moment. As a famous preacher called

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Speaker 1: Charles Spurgeon, so they called him Spurgi when he was young.

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Speaker 4: I want to I want to go back a little

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Speaker 4: bit if y'all don't mind for people that don't know

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Speaker 4: who Daniel sees there is. Uh, you're from Canada, and

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Speaker 4: tell tell everybody how you got.

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Speaker 3: Into the music industry and and.

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Speaker 4: Your background, your your father you said, is Jamaican, and

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Speaker 4: break it down a little bit for people that don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my my my dad was a singer back in

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Speaker 1: Montego Bay. When he was singing. No well, I mean

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Speaker 1: he always sang in the church since she was little.

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Speaker 1: My grandmother heard that he could sing from school and

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Speaker 1: she's like, if you're not singing church, on beat your ass.

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Speaker 1: So uh, but he was like doing dinner music and

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Speaker 1: stuff at hotels. You're making tourism industry. And so he

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Speaker 1: ends up in Canada, meets my mom from Barbados and

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Speaker 1: both me and Canada and uh, and then I'm like

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Speaker 1: singing when I was little, it's kind of just it's

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Speaker 1: kind of just all. I used to just run around

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Speaker 1: I'd be singing to myself or whatever. And then yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then high school came around and they start smoking

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Speaker 1: weed and going friends have studios and it's a long story.

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Speaker 1: It's a long story. But yeah, around like high school,

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Speaker 1: I got kicked out of school and I was like,

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Speaker 1: it was around that time where I was like, the

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Speaker 1: way this whole thing is set up, like I'm not

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Speaker 1: about to I hate school. I'm really bad at school.

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Speaker 1: I don't enjoy school. And then I was like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, one day I'm gonna finish school and then

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get a job. And that's like

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Speaker 1: school too. So I'm like, am I gonna do this

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Speaker 1: the rest of my life? And I would rather die?

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Speaker 2: Jes Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm serious, though, I saw I.

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Speaker 2: Really feel like that. You feel like that at the

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Speaker 2: time you don't want to die?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't know. I didn't mean that literally,

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Speaker 1: I would rather die. I don't want to die. I'm

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Speaker 1: I don't just want to die for no. No, if

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Speaker 1: I'll give you liberty or give me death. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean that revolution though not like you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean sometimes being alive is a revolutionary act. That is, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, he don't want you. They're trying to control you,

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Speaker 1: r make you be something that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So is it.

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Speaker 4: True that your dad kicked you out the house and

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Speaker 4: that's when you really took it serious.

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Speaker 1: No, my dad did not kick me out of the house.

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Speaker 1: When my dad did, which I respect as time passed,

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Speaker 1: of course, he was like, you're not just gonna sit

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Speaker 3: And he had a heavy Jamaican accent, I'm sure, so.

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Speaker 1: It was only when he's angry. He actually has a

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Speaker 1: great telephone voice forgetting and stuff like that. Yeah, He's like,

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Speaker 1: you're not just gonna sit around here in my house

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Speaker 1: strong willed. I'm also very strong willed, so I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: think if I was alive, like I don't know, five

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Speaker 1: hundred years ago, I would have been like a pirate

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Speaker 1: or a vagabond or something, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But you would to be homeless.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be homeless. I just didn't want

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Speaker 1: to do anything that I didn't want to do.

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Speaker 2: Where you did you leave the house and go be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the streets. I was like CouchSurfing. You

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Speaker 1: have friends and then there's always a home to It's

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Speaker 1: just like I was very strong willed, so it's like

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Speaker 1: there's always a home to go back to, but I

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Speaker 1: have to go back under my father's rules, my father's

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I respect it respecfully.

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Speaker 2: You have a homeless aesthetic.

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Speaker 1: But I mean it's probably a thing going on.

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Speaker 6: No, it's definitely not your hair. I love it hair.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, I did it on purpose.

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Speaker 6: You are not strong willed. You are stubborn. That's what

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Speaker 7: You're stubborn as hell because you Joe, how old were

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Speaker 7: you when you when your dad gave you that ultimatum?

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Speaker 8: Seventeen, Okay, that's around the age where you like think you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, from my perspective, it turns out I didn't know,

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Speaker 2: Because it was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, gotcha, And I believe and I also believe

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Speaker 1: like they raised, they didn't raise a dummy, right, So

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like I think everybody deep down knows

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Speaker 1: what they should be doing, and then the universe is

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Speaker 1: going to keep throwing things at you to suggest that

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be doing that to scare you. And like

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Speaker 1: being homeless or being poor is very scary.

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Speaker 2: Did you sing for like change?

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Speaker 1: No? No, it was amazing. I don't want to throw

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Speaker 1: it over dramatized. I had. I was a dishwasher.

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Speaker 5: But I want to hear about the signs that told

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Speaker 5: you you should be singing. I know the signs that

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Speaker 5: you know told you the things you shouldn't have been doing,

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Speaker 5: But what were the signs that showed you you should

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Speaker 5: be singing?

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Speaker 1: My I remember, and I went to like this boarding school,

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Speaker 1: like Christian Academy, and so on Friday nights it was

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Speaker 1: seven day Adventists. So on Friday nights we would have vespers,

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Speaker 1: it was around that time when I was like all right,

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Speaker 1: I used to play sports and I was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: Vespers and I sang this song and I'd not even joke.

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Speaker 1: I feel like thirty percent of the of the people

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Speaker 1: in the audience were like sobbing and it was cool.

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Speaker 1: It was very and it was like guys girls, some

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Speaker 1: is interesting, you know, like the power was was. I

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Speaker 1: useful at this. I'm valuable when I do this, So

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Speaker 1: why not just do this so I can feel valuable

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Speaker 4: Did your pops when did your pops come back and

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Speaker 4: be like you made the right decision? Or has that

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Speaker 4: not happened yet?

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Speaker 1: It has? And I mean probably, like I've played some

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Speaker 1: Toronto Budweiser Stadium or not stadium's out of stadium. It's

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Speaker 1: a amphitheater. But it was just all those people singing

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Speaker 1: the songs in here there he was like, Okay, I got.

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Speaker 2: It now, and you honored him.

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Speaker 5: You honored him, you know, by naming your albums on

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Speaker 5: the spurge his face on the cover.

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Speaker 2: How does he feel about that?

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Speaker 1: You know what? He's so, he's just such an interesting guy.

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Speaker 1: He's so cool. But what he did. I put out

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Speaker 1: him emotionally. But he's you know what I mean, He's

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Speaker 1: not like, yeah, your dad, Yeah you should spell time

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Speaker 1: you put me on.

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Speaker 5: You know, You've been very open about like your struggles

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Speaker 5: with identity and faith and self worth. I wonder, at

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Speaker 5: this point in your life, who is Daniel Cesar still

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Speaker 5: unlearning to be?

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I've been thinking that a lot lately. I

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Speaker 1: internalize everything, so that's kind of how I moved to

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Speaker 1: you just can't. So You're like, when people exhibit behaviors

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Speaker 1: who they are. I don't like I don't believe in like, hey,

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Speaker 1: what you did made me feel this way, and maybe

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Speaker 1: you could change it, but know that's who you are.

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Speaker 1: I'm either gonna and then it's like I don't like that,

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Speaker 1: because then the next time you do it, I either

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Speaker 1: have to separate from you, you know, So that sort

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Speaker 1: are until you decide what you're gonna do about it.

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Speaker 1: And there's violence, or there's emotional violence, or there's running

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Speaker 1: away detachment or detachment. And so I just always kind

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Speaker 1: then I put the responsibility on myself. How am I

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Speaker 1: not let that stop me from where I'm trying to go.

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Speaker 1: But then you don't realize what you sacrifice in yourself

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Speaker 1: by not addressing some things when they happen in front

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Speaker 1: and then you were like I am a crash out,

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Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes it kind of just jumps out

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Speaker 1: of me at the wrong times because I'm not addressing

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: And then you're just like and sometimes and then you

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Speaker 1: you think that makes you a good person by not

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Speaker 1: trying to control other people, and then the way it

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Speaker 1: and then you're like, damn, I wonder how many times

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Speaker 1: I've hurt people that I care about because I was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is the oldest story, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But but there was a time you're you're supposed to provide.

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Speaker 5: Like, I don't think it's about somebody telling you what

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Speaker 1: about very much. But if she feels irresponded, No, she's not.

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Speaker 1: make that promise because yeah, I don't think so. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: But that's the way we should be, and most most

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Speaker 2: That's a level of emotional intelligence a lot of us

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I just I just think, I just think,

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Speaker 6: Is this the way we use like isolation?

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Speaker 5: As you talked about intellectualizing spirit, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: If what you feel is true to you, then let

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Speaker 5: If you don't feel like you're ready to settle down

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Speaker 7: It's deep there, it gets.

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Speaker 1: It was honestly, it was. It was great. It was

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Speaker 4: And old was your dad was your household growing up

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Speaker 3: And you've seen that union that you're looking.

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Speaker 5: So you have conversations with your father though, like about

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Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. I mean, marriage is all work,

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have your good days.

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Speaker 2: You gotta want to do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And for me, you, I have dedicated my life

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Speaker 3: Of yeah, you're very young.

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Speaker 4: It was like, but you help your kids with homerate,

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Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like a job. It doesn't feel like

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Speaker 4: have those type of traumas, and have those type of problems.

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00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 4: I care more about raising those kids than any art form,

438
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 4: than any type of money, than anything like that. But

439
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 4: I see that. But that's the commitment that I made

440
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 4: to my family. I didn't have to I didn't have

441
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 4: to have those kids. You didn't have to have kids

442
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 4: or whatever it may be. But once you make that

443
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 4: commitment to have that child or that relationship as a man,

444
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 4: you talk about Anna, you should do it right.

445
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 7: Well, let me know if you need another hairdstyllars of

446
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 7: them kidscause she wasn't supposed to say that to you.

447
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 7: I'm surprised that you ain't here like that too.

448
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 5: You know when you bring Menican kids who are like

449
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 5: a black you know.

450
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 8: Before we get off this topic, right, because this whole

451
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 8: conversation reminds me of a sinse of a father the

452
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 8: song that you in your project with. In that project,

453
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 8: you say dad would forgetful. He promised a lot. I

454
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 8: think thankfully he never got called. Then you talk about

455
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 8: forgetting someone's birthday and someone saying I'm sorry, dear, and

456
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 8: you're struggling between the love and honor that your your

457
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 8: actual father has and the love and honor that the

458
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 8: father above is.

459
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 9: Like you know what I mean?

460
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 1: What?

461
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 9: So was your dad not like how Envy is describing

462
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 9: he was? Is that were some of this like.

463
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 3: Like that that's what made me like that exactly.

464
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: And my dad's dad was an orphan from like from

465
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: the slums of Jamaica. The man suffered I could. I

466
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: can't around that time, especially with the British over there

467
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 1: fucking doing whatever the British do. The the level of

468
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: abuse that he sustained, I'm sure is horrible, you know,

469
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: And so sometimes I'm just like, no, my out there.

470
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he probably forgot my birthday. My mom wouldn't

471
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: forget my birthday. No no, no, no, not like are you

472
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: only child? No no, no, I got four brothers, three brothers.

473
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: But he my One of my favorite stories with my

474
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 1: dad is telling me about what the time that his mom.

475
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: He's like at the dinner table with his mom. She's like,

476
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: was it your birthday last week or something like that,

477
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: and my dad was like, oh, yeah, I guess it

478
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: was my birthday, you know what I mean. And it's

479
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: such a small little thing, but You're like, damn, and

480
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: my family we're not a birthday family. And I always,

481
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: like with girlfriends and stuff, I like Christmas birthdays. I

482
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: resent that's like because I will buy you. Sometimes I'll

483
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: be out and I'll see something that makes me think

484
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: of you, and I'll be like, I love this girl

485
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: so much, I'm gonna get this for it right now.

486
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: But when birthday comes, don't don't look at me, you

487
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because it's just like I'm not

488
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: subscribing to this.

489
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: I don't like the expectations.

490
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 5: No, I do this all year round, Like why do

491
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 5: I have to do it on this specific way?

492
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 2: Maybe not for birthday, but definitely for Christmas.

493
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: I feel that way exactly. I don't like the I

494
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: just don't like that. It's it's there's so many variables

495
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: and exterior pressures on us all the times, and I

496
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: get I'm clearly like I get a little neurotic and

497
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: like I'll like follow a train of thought like very

498
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: very deep, and but you know what I'm saying, And

499
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like, you.

500
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: Know, like who are we, you.

501
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: Know, especially because all the systems that we exist in,

502
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: like we are the least valuable people in those systems,

503
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like I resent

504
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: all these systems, all these structures, and so me doing

505
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: whatever the I want and saying things and and I

506
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: can be very obnoxious. I can be very irritating and

507
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: annoying sometimes, but it's just like, like how this if

508
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: you start sometimes just being whoever you are is the

509
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: is the act of is the rebellion or is the

510
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: revolutionary act? It's just like you want me to be this.

511
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: I look like this, so I have to talk like

512
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: this and dress like this. No, bro, it's a little weird.

513
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: But he's cool, you know what I mean, that's all.

514
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even label you we exactly well I have,

515
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 5: I mean who you are, and I appreciate that you

516
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 5: He just healed something in me, right, he is definitely

517
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,719
Speaker 5: think people who call people weird they don't really know themselves.

518
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: I agree.

519
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: At least I've never gonna use that word to you. Ever,

520
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: I'm very descriptive.

521
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 5: I'm very specific. Okay, what part of Daniel ses you do?

522
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 5: Fans still misunderstand the most?

523
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: And is that your fault?

524
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is my fault, and definitely my my cynicism

525
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: into humor, you know, or just by yeah, I was

526
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: starting with my cynicism and my sense of humor. Where

527
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: it's like like something that happened a couple of months ago,

528
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, when when Trump and the Ice things first

529
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: started happening. You know, a couple of weeks before.

530
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 2: You have some concern because Jamaica by Beatos Canada. You

531
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: just weren't sure.

532
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: Shut up, man, I got a great visa, man, I think,

533
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: But I mean he's also who nobody's safe, right? But

534
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: but no, do you remember when when Trump's Instagram first

535
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: started to really get crazy and it was a decade

536
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: at least for me, when I saw this like AI

537
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: image with the trains, with the planes and the trains

538
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: and no with the the let's start deportations now or

539
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 1: something like that, and me I saw that and I

540
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, this is really crazy. What are we

541
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: living in? Like what is this? And it was It's

542
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: funny to me, It's objectively funny. And I get some

543
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: people will see that. They'll see me like the post

544
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: or something, and they're like this guy, you know, And

545
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: I completely get that. I've kind of had to. I

546
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: don't have the processing power, the mental processing power too

547
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: in all moments of my life think about what the

548
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: Internet will think about what I do and then move accordingly.

549
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: It's just too it's too much.

550
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't have to like it, Like you can

551
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 5: mentally look at something you know and see all the

552
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 5: nuance of it, right, know that it's some bullshit, but

553
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 5: also maybe kind of find it funny.

554
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: But you don't have to like it, Like you said

555
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: you don't like systems.

556
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: So who said no? When I say, I mean press

557
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: the like button?

558
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: But who said you got to do that? You're only

559
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: doing that because it's there.

560
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you wanted to.

561
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 3: Know that you like it or like do you just no.

562
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no, I just I almost like use

563
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: social media sometimes like a boom or like I am.

564
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: One of the New Year's things that I'm doing is

565
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm getting a life phone because I am like with

566
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: my phone it's too much. If I see it and

567
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: I think it's funny, I press like and I keep scrolling.

568
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 2: Because it's not even.

569
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah well yeah no, I was preyed upon by the

570
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: It's I'm dopamine. I am an addict. That is in

571
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: my like I am. I have that type of personality.

572
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm an addict. So if you get if you make

573
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: me feel good, then then you're in there. You know

574
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it's that's that's another thing in

575
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, growing up becoming a man, where it's just like,

576
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're be set by evil on all sides.

577
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: Like if I don't exercise self discipline, I'm cooked, you know, aware,

578
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I try else for a dude

579
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: down here, you know, I.

580
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 4: Want to I want to talk about have a by

581
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 4: me before.

582
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: I just I wanted to be clear that my that

583
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: my dad is like he's a He loved us very much,

584
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: and he was very kind and very gentle. And when

585
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: I hear stories about his upbringing, he went from here

586
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: to here. That's all I just I'm just very sensitive

587
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: and so whatever it was, you know, but.

588
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 9: He agreed as a man, not as your dad exactly.

589
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: You know. The one more quick thing cleared us up.

590
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: Do you support Trump? No?

591
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: I think he's hilarious, and I think that America. I

592
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: think Trump is the president that he I think Trump

593
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: was inevitable and I think what he's what ice is

594
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: going on? Yeah, this is this is how the country started.

595
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: It's a criminal ass, you know what I mean. It

596
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: was eventually going to get here, and now it's like.

597
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: Trump is the Frankenstein Monster of white.

598
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: Supremacist exactly exactly. And now it's like now there's I

599
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: used to shooting white ladies. Now everyone's scared. You know

600
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: what I mean. This was always eventually these systems that

601
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, they're over in Africa. Fu them,

602
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: you know they're over in over there. Fuck them now,

603
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: they're now they're shooting suburban white ladies. You know what

604
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean?

605
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: You should unlike the post.

606
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: But and you know what, and here comes the main

607
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: flaw in my character. Don't tell me what, don't tell

608
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: what to do, and don't try and don't try it right,

609
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: and I will the universe God will, I will, I

610
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: will suffer. And I have.

611
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 9: Get a phone like a phone where it's.

612
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: A light phone. No, it's like no apps. I just

613
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: need to get off. Yeah, it's like you can get

614
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: music and you can get maps.

615
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: You know what you should do?

616
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 5: Don't give me a hundred thousand dollars, don't.

617
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: You should not do.

618
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: Don't give me you can program that into my brain

619
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: while giving me dopamine, then that would work.

620
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: Don't give me a million dollars.

621
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 9: Do you needs dope?

622
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: Mother?

623
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: Don't give me.

624
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 8: So okay, So, because you said you don't like to

625
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 8: be told what not to do, right, but you're getting

626
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 8: this phone that doesn't have these apps because you're getting

627
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 8: the backlash to the things that you're doing exactly.

628
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: So it's like I am putting I have to put

629
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: up the parameters for myself. I am gonna just whatever.

630
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: It's the same with dealing with money. I have to

631
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: set up things with my business manager because I don't.

632
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: I can't.

633
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 6: You know yourself that I.

634
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: Got to put myself in my own cage. Somebody else

635
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: will put me in a case. Good.

636
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 8: The yes Jewels moment kind of get you here too, Yeah,

637
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 8: yes Jewels moment.

638
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: Oh it's iconic.

639
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 8: Okay, I didn't know you were iconic, but so, yes

640
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 8: Jewels was People were coming for her because she had

641
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 8: posted that T shirt that or it came back up

642
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 8: the niggas lie a Lot T shirt and then she.

643
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: She wore a T shirt that said niggas lie.

644
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 8: She had tweets she had posted the shirt, and people

645
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 8: were coming for her, just talking about the whole cultural

646
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 8: appropriation thing like they always do with her and oh white,

647
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 8: Yeah she's white, and you got online in a drunk

648
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 8: rint and you basically said people should leave her alone.

649
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 8: She should be able to say what she wants to say.

650
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 8: Because we're mean to people, but we act like we

651
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 8: don't understand why people have a reaction. I can read

652
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 8: your words, veriato. But that was me summarizing it.

653
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: No one, and I mean, this is great. It was

654
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: it was I internalize everything, and that's that's the whole thing.

655
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I internalize everything. You guys should

656
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: internalize everything, and then you'll get all this and all

657
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: this is nothing.

658
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: I disagree. I don't like, yeah you don't.

659
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no no, but

660
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: I agree. But that that was where that was coming from.

661
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: That's what that was. And on and for years after,

662
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's like, these things aren't

663
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: gonna boo me out of nothing. No, this is I

664
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: believe that, and I still believe it. And as time

665
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: is passed, I'm like, oh they were, No, they were

666
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: one hundred percent right. That is what you when you

667
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: accept this type of behavior from people that throughout history

668
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: have exemplified to you that they hate you, and then

669
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: you accept the behavior to get out of the circumstances

670
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: that you're in. You are giving up. You were giving up.

671
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: It's it's undignified. You're giving up your own dignity, which

672
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: I never really it never crossed my mind, you know

673
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: what I mean, because it was just kind of like

674
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: the way it when I say survival, it's not like

675
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: I ever feared for my life or anything like that,

676
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it was just like

677
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: growing up I had to be personally the way that

678
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: I moved to the world was like, yeah, bro, white

679
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: people are like, you know what I mean, That's just

680
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: that's just how they are. And I don't really see

681
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: them because they don't even know half the time, they

682
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: don't even know the weird ship that they be doing

683
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: or the way they move to the world, you know

684
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: what I mean.

685
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: Disagree with that.

686
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 5: I say that when it comes to legislation, like we

687
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 5: talk about systems, like somebody had to create the system,

688
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 5: so clearly somebody knew what was doing. If you put you,

689
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 5: if you was label somebody only three quarters of a

690
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 5: human being, Yeah, that's an intentional choice.

691
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: Well okay, yes, and that's your in the spirit of

692
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 1: self awareness, my I don't even subscribe to or participate

693
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: in politics because I'm like, I don't have the the

694
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: the bandwidth, the mental bandwidth, like dealing with what's the

695
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: word you just used, legislation, legislation, all that stuff. I'm like,

696
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: I just kind of assume whatever does come of of

697
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: all that doesn't involve me, you know what I mean,

698
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm not.

699
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 5: It involves as Yeah, but I love with Nina turns

700
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 5: that you don't.

701
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 2: You may not do politics, but politics is eventually gonna

702
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: do you. Yeah.

703
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: No, I get, I get what you're saying, but I

704
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: just mean, like I then that's my cynicism. I don't

705
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: believe that any level of participation, that like any level

706
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: that I participate in politics, well that actually the country

707
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: is founded on racism. I just don't think that playing

708
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: the game of politics will solve the issue. It's like,

709
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: I think politics is downstream from a deeper issue, a

710
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: spiritual issue, you know, like politics is dealing in the

711
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: physical like like mind proceeds, mind prospedes, proceeds, Spirit proceeds form,

712
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like what we're

713
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: dealing with is like, what we're dealing with is is

714
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: evil politics. I just don't me personally.

715
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: To be able to you know, you know, elections do

716
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 5: have consequences, and I mean when you see you know,

717
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 5: people's civil liberties being rolled back the way that they

718
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 5: are now, then.

719
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: You have to disagree with yourself.

720
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah No, but I just think I personally assumed that whoever,

721
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: if we put Kamala, Kamala, whoever we put in there,

722
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: eventually this is gonna happen. That's my personal But that's cynicism.

723
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: And maybe if we vote right, one day, America, black

724
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: people will run America and it will be our country.

725
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't, I mean, I don't know. It just doesn't feel.

726
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: It just doesn't.

727
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 3: What I was asking. I was gonna ask, was that

728
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: your is that your homie or stand up?

729
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: That was also I mean, that was like a trauma response.

730
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: It was just like I saw when I look at

731
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: Yes Jules, I see an orphan girl that that that

732
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: wants to be black, you know what I mean. And

733
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, that's so mean, bro.

734
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 9: She doesn't like she could come to your at that time. Now.

735
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: But I don't know nothing about it, I guess.

736
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I was just like I felt bad for her,

737
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: especially being a black kid that grew up surrounded by

738
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: white people. I'm like, what the way she grew up?

739
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: What is she supposed to do? She's trying to embody

740
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: what she understands.

741
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 9: Is so different than hers.

742
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 8: And I think, yes, Jeweles, I think yes, Jewels is

743
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 8: a like, it's not even about her. The conversation that

744
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 8: people try to have about her is a bigger conversation

745
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 8: about what we allow culturally and what we should protect

746
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 8: and all those things. So I think that's where people's

747
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 8: frustration comes in when you jump out the window for

748
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 8: her and it's not just about her, you know what

749
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 8: I mean. But said, he's trying to explain that this

750
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 8: is he understands it now because.

751
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: Of his Yeah, no, no, no, I don't, and I wouldn't.

752
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 7: It was a.

753
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: It was meant to happen. It was meant And I

754
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: almost don't regret it because I don't think I would

755
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: have come to this understanding of what's going on in

756
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: myself and in the world around me if I hadn't

757
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: done that, you know, because I was just like internalizing

758
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: and I didn't realize. I was like, oh my god,

759
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: all this choosing to internalize. They called me a coup

760
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, there's no way

761
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: because I think this, this and this and this m hm.

762
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, oh my god, have I been

763
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: sacrificing my dignity by internalizing things. Sometimes when someone comes

764
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: to you the wrong way, you're supposed to crash out

765
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: immediately on the spot, you know. But there's just been

766
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: so many moments in my life where someone says something

767
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: that's a little weird or whatever, and I'm just like,

768
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, your fight or flight, and you're like, wait,

769
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: is that weird? Am I supposed to cuss out everybody

770
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: in this room right now? Am I supposed to stop?

771
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: You know?

772
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: So basically, you just.

773
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 7: Saw a girl that wanted to be black, that just

774
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 7: you know, wore shirt that it didn't really mean anything

775
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 7: to you.

776
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 6: It was just like, yo, this is just another girl

777
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 6: orphan shown she want to be black.

778
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: It's naive because I was moving to the world really

779
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: believing like, oh maybe we could all come together and

780
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: understand each other and be like spending this much time

781
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: in America, I'm like, oh no. But if you think

782
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: all all all or no all virality. All virality are

783
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: all like codes of codes of moving through the world,

784
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god. If you follow it to

785
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: any thought process at the very end, it's like, all right,

786
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: who who are we killing? That's actually what it is.

787
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: Someone's gotta die. That's how this whole world is set up.

788
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: It's like these group of people believe this, and we

789
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: believe this, and we will never agree, so we have

790
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: to kill them.

791
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 2: Damn, Dan, What did you ultimately learn from this situation?

792
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm getting. I'm getting that you learned

793
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: something from that, Sue.

794
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: I did, and the niggas don't lie, like, Yeah, I learned.

795
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: I learned. It's it's a ship show out here and

796
00:39:54,160 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: all that I can How do I say this? I

797
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: can only control me and the world around me is

798
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: is is of my own creation, you know. And you

799
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: go through things and you experience them, and if you

800
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: don't want it to happen again, you look at what

801
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: went wrong and you try and adjust.

802
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: Did the backlash your faith make you more guarded as

803
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: an artist? Are more honest?

804
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: More guarded? And now more honest? Because it's all like

805
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: it forever changed the trajectory of my whole life.

806
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: You know, really, what do you mean?

807
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? For sure? Because it was just I just I

808
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: thought I was being honest with myself and that I

809
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: didn't realize how first. I didn't realize how much anger

810
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: and hatred I had in my own heart.

811
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: For who your own people are.

812
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, I mean for the world around

813
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: me and for myself. It's kind of it's all like

814
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: hete It's all like I am you you are. Yeah,

815
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: it's all the same. It's all flowing the separation that

816
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: you are a different person than me, and you and

817
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: you have your own life. It's not real. You know,

818
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: you drop some acid and you're like, oh, we're actually

819
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: all one. We're all just different leaves on a tree.

820
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: You know. The separation that we think we feel it is.

821
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: It's mercy. It's mercy because the reality is that there's

822
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: only one spirit and it's floating out in space and

823
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: it's alone. The reality of existence is that we were

824
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: alone and there's only I'm a figment of your imagination.

825
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: I am you're figuring in my imagination. I am actually

826
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: the center of the universe. None of you guys are real.

827
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: But also I am a figuring of your imagination. I'm

828
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: not real. We're You're alone. There's nobody else here.

829
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 7: You're all just energies moving through time. I swear I

830
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 7: heard Jim Carry say something like this. I mean it's

831
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 7: like where I literally heard somebody say this. Sorry Jim

832
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 7: if you didn't, but I thought he said something like

833
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 7: this before one of them Golden globes.

834
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: Uh, the spiritual practices of anyone free colonialism?

835
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 6: Do you dos or ayahuasca or anything like that?

836
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 2: Is that you okay?

837
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: Oh?

838
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 3: Acid?

839
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 6: Oh you're talking about like that? I mean like on

840
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 6: a bado? Okay, all right, you know what I'm saying at.

841
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: Okay?

842
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 8: Cool.

843
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 5: That's interesting though, because I feel the exact opposite. I

844
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 5: feel like, you know, human connection is the only reason

845
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 5: that we exist, no, I.

846
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: Based That's why we yearn so much for it. Because

847
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: when you connect with someone, even when you it's like

848
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: you're long for connection, Like you see a girl and

849
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: she's so beautiful, you know, and you go and talk

850
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: to her m hm, and she doesn't like you, and

851
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: you're like damn, and that pain that you feel where

852
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: it's like, what's wrong with me? And then you realize

853
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: it's beautiful because I really believe in that moment that

854
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: she's not me, and so I'm not alone. And then

855
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: you meet you meet someone and you fall in love

856
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: with them and it's the beautiful and you have a

857
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: crazy experience together and it's the same. It's like, oh

858
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: my god, I'm not alone in this world, you know.

859
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: And then things happen and it's you know, and then

860
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: you are alone again, and then you remember, do you

861
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: feel me? Yeah? No, but it's yeah and then and

862
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: then yeah. But no. Life is about human connection, and

863
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of the whole way I've structured my life,

864
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: you know. I write songs about human connection. And that's why.

865
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: Another reason why marriage is scared to me, because it's

866
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: like to to choose to marry is to be like,

867
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: all right, connection, got it?

868
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 5: No more connection, because then the connection don't always That's

869
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 5: what we mess up. Connections don't always have to be romantic.

870
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 5: Connections don't always have to be you know, intimate on

871
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 5: a sexual level. Connections can be a new friend that

872
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 5: you meet. Connection can be somebody that you get in

873
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 5: the studio with that's a producer, and y'all connect and

874
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 5: y'all create something that's an amazing.

875
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 6: That's what he's talking about.

876
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: Run Through is crazy you ever had, You've never like

877
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: the I am it's dop. I mean, the most powerful

878
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: connection is the connection that is is eros is a gape,

879
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's all the different types

880
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: of love one can experience more than you always rod.

881
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: That's what I just told you.

882
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 6: Trying to run through.

883
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't always have to do that.

884
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 5: Like, Actually, to me, one of the most powerful connections

885
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 5: is when you meet a woman, like you know, all

886
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 5: of these women in this room, even from Natina and down,

887
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 5: are women that I have met.

888
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: There's no sexual attraction. Even to people that I consider

889
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: my homegirls, my sisters. I love them. Sometimes that is

890
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: the more powerful dopamine hit than.

891
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: I feel like you're understand. I'm not saying that I

892
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: can't have don't have friendship.

893
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 8: You're talking about that first feeling when you fall in

894
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 8: love and it's energetic and it's like whatever.

895
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 9: Right, But I think because they've.

896
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 8: Been married for a lot of time, right, what I'm

897
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 8: what I think you're missing from what they're saying is

898
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 8: that even with your partner, if you're just talking about wife, husband, girlfriend, boyfriend,

899
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 8: there are so many different experiences where that same dopamine

900
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 8: feeling comes with that same person, just depending on where

901
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 8: you are in the relationship, what's happening. It's work, though,

902
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 8: and I think people out of that work to refill

903
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 8: that feeling because you think it's only one instant that

904
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 8: it's a great point for a single person.

905
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna front learn that a good point envy.

906
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know playing with me. There's certain points.

907
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 5: That you get older and you look at your wife

908
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 5: sometime you're like, damn, man, I hit the lottery, Like

909
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 5: I love.

910
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: My wife all the time. Absolutely, I'm doing the same.

911
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 4: Ask a question when you were younger, did you have

912
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 4: a lot of girlfriends or were you the the one

913
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 4: that didn't that because you went to a white school,

914
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 4: they didn't appreciate you like they should have.

915
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't date until ninth grade.

916
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 4: And that's the reason why he probably feels the way

917
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 4: that he did. He never really felt accepted when you

918
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 4: was growing up as a kid. He never had the love.

919
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: He never had that friendship.

920
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: They called you ugly all that stuff.

921
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: But that's that's the reason.

922
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 4: But that's the reason he's act like like he is

923
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 4: because he never had that love growing up. So now

924
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 4: when he's a celebrity, he's a star, he can pick

925
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 4: and choose with whatever.

926
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 8: And even then though it gets empty at some point

927
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 8: because and have a baby, it'll get me, right.

928
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: Of course, it gets but yeah with me in Penthes, yeah,

929
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: because that's that was funny.

930
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: Have a baby with me, like yeah, but not with the.

931
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 4: Other dude, like what woman left you that you was like,

932
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 4: don't leave, please, I'll I'll put a baby.

933
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: And you don't leave.

934
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: Okay, no, no no. So that's like the girl that

935
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: I wrote my first Frediano was Yeah, that was like

936
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: a whole that was a whole thing. And but I

937
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: have a baby is like, it's funny to put it

938
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: in parentheses. Yeah, because of the experiences that I had.

939
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: That's my other thing, like with you're really okay, So yeah,

940
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: you guys, you nailed it. It's in relationships. I can't

941
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: help but feel like it's about controlling what the other

942
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: person does. I feel controlled when i'm this person. I

943
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: feel like going over here and doing this and running

944
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: around and doing that. And you tell me it hurts you.

945
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: But I'm just being myself, you know. So what do

946
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: you want me to do? You want me to be

947
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: somebody else? This is I didn't get you by being

948
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: somebody else. I got you by being myself. You know.

949
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 8: But at a part in the song when you're talking

950
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 8: to her, it sounds like she's like putting her clothes on,

951
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 8: she's about to leave. But figure that's like the physical,

952
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 8: but in like thinking about it, she's kind of tapping

953
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 8: out of the relationship, right, You're almost like begging her

954
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 8: to not at some point because you realize that you

955
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 8: started all these little fires and it got you to

956
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 8: this point and you just want to give her that

957
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 8: dream like what she thought or where she thought you

958
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 8: guys would end up. So how how are two things synonymous?

959
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 8: Like how do you feel like that? But then when

960
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 8: she's putting on her clothes and she's ready to leave,

961
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 8: you like, no, have a baby with me and with me, like,

962
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 8: let's do it.

963
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: How is that?

964
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

965
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: Ass toxic? Yeah, said SELFI Yeah, I'm glad. This is

966
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 2: very self aware selfish.

967
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: That's kind of I mean, that's being an artist. That's

968
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: the thing being an artist is like that is that

969
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: you can't be a good artist and not be selfish.

970
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: It's about I experienced stimuli from the outside world, and

971
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the outside world. I'm worried about

972
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: how I feel about it, because then I go to

973
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: the studio and I and I do what I gotta do,

974
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: and I process it and I go through it.

975
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 6: I'm not worried about Which is the greatest dopa main

976
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 6: high ever for you?

977
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: Life literal value? You know, what I mean changed.

978
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 4: Was it a woman that made you start acting like that?

979
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: Or when you started being the one that these women

980
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 4: started liking it changed you? Because at one time, I'm

981
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 4: sure you didn't feel accepted you maybe it was rejection.

982
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 4: How you know it's not just the fame or the

983
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: money or a celebrity.

984
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, don't you don't know? You don't know, it's

985
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: only over time.

986
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 4: And is that why you're being selfish? Like I don't

987
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: know why you liked me because they didn't like me.

988
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna sling dick to everybody have a

989
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: baby with me?

990
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I because I want an artifact of our love.

991
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: I want an artifact.

992
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 7: Idea of what read No no, no, yeah, not in

993
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 7: the buns in the bun no no no, no no no,

994
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 7: no one's pregnant, no no no yeah.

995
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: Give them some time to process the question though internalized.

996
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: Go ahead, that's so interesting. Artifact that crazy? Yes, yes,

997
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: you want to.

998
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 9: You're stopping a gift shop at.

999
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: They call a baby that? Yeah, that's crazy.

1000
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 6: Look at my souvenir. He's six today.

1001
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 3: What we'll holler next year Christmas?

1002
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: You know? Just interesting.

1003
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 8: I think once you get through this to take that

1004
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 8: text back you said somebody that you.

1005
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: No, I definitely said that, and I've said that a bunch.

1006
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 9: They be eating it up. What they be saying it back?

1007
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: No, it'll be texting it's no, no, no, it's I

1008
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: use I use that term when I'm in debate about

1009
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: the subjects, not when I'm talking m which I guess

1010
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: maybe yes now that yes.

1011
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 5: The question is this album more of a confession, our

1012
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 5: therapy session or our spiritual reckoning?

1013
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.

1014
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean I personally always get to spiritual reckoning through confession.

1015
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: I love the thought of singing it that you can

1016
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: say whatever you want when you're singing it, and you

1017
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: can say a lot of things. I mean, a lot

1018
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: of things have been said here today that are insane

1019
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: to say in conversation with strangers. But and that's that's

1020
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: just something I.

1021
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: Like to do.

1022
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 6: But it's still a conversation, you know.

1023
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: It's how you feel, and it's connection. I feel like

1024
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: I'm i feel you know, more connection, I feel you know.

1025
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would say spiritual reckoning. I would say

1026
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: spiritual reckoning, but it's it's I'm still caught up on

1027
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: this artifact. I when I say artifact. I mean like,

1028
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: I don't mean I want to have a kid and

1029
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: then disappear. I don't believe in that. I'm like my

1030
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: dad where it's like like bound by honor, you know,

1031
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: to something like that. It's just more of a it's

1032
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: more of a I don't think I can be married.

1033
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 6: Hmm.

1034
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: I just want to co parent.

1035
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: You said all of that just to say this.

1036
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 6: I just want you to know you just want a

1037
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 6: cold parent.

1038
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: I give him a copy of your book.

1039
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 5: Just has a book coming out called Tell Death Parent

1040
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 5: Privileged Publishing, Simon and Shooter, and it's all about cold parenting.

1041
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 7: So I just okay, So so you co parent, co

1042
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 7: parent well with my son's father yet so she's married

1043
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 7: to Yeah, but I'm not married to my son's father.

1044
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: I'm married just father was divorce or was it just

1045
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: a no? No?

1046
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 9: No, that was just a relationship.

1047
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 7: We met when we were with nineteen or something like that,

1048
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 7: and I had we had a track of their love

1049
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 7: and oh, my master, Ashton, if you were not, but yes,

1050
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 7: we did have anot of fact.

1051
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: His name is yes, Ashton, my name is Ashton.

1052
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: Is it thought your name is Daniel?

1053
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, that was a whole other. My

1054
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: dad was like, if you're not going to send gospel music,

1055
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: you can't use my name. Wow damn.

1056
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 6: Okay, So.

1057
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so you've never been divorced.

1058
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 6: No, that's my first time being married.

1059
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: I love it.

1060
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 6: It's great.

1061
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 7: Okay, I've only been married for like seven eight months though,

1062
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 7: but yeap, so we're nearly words.

1063
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, I love it. Okay, you're going to read

1064
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: this book. Yes, you can have this.

1065
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 8: Advise him to start out co parenting first if he

1066
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 8: knows what's to do, or do you advise himself?

1067
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 7: No, no, no, no no, I would bringing it back

1068
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 7: down and you were saying you have a kid, go

1069
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 7: Actually you were just saying, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, no, just.

1070
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: Like I am just kind of like I'm just very

1071
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: anti divorced, and I'm just like, why why why can't

1072
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: I just im someone what I know? Would I believe

1073
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: that I can promise them or I could promise them

1074
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: more than I think we could. I should promise them,

1075
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: We get divorced, and then we still end up doing

1076
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 1: this anyhow, how many people are out here we speak,

1077
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: self aware and trying to circumvent and maybe that's it's

1078
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: maybe it's coward it's trying to circumvent the pain or

1079
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: the you know, but it's kind of like a long

1080
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 1: way there.

1081
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 7: It's like yo, shortcut baby, all right, let's go parent

1082
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 7: right here right now, because I know I cannot be.

1083
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 7: I can't participate in the active monogamy with you right now,

1084
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 7: like because that's not how I feel marriage. It does

1085
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 7: not serve me. I don't like it, all the things

1086
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 7: attached to it. I do want a child. I want

1087
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 7: my own offspring, though, and I would love to co

1088
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 7: parent with you.

1089
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: That's what it is.

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00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 6: So you got to find somebody that's like you, that

1091
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 6: that is okay.

1092
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: With that to do that with.

1093
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 6: And there are women like.

1094
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: Your money and your shoes as well, and you play

1095
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: around with these women like that.

1096
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: Confidence at least. But no, no, no, but you who

1097
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: will do that? Here's and here's the thing. Because I've

1098
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: been so honest today, I understand that there's probably it's

1099
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: easy to assume that that I have a deep that

1100
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't understand women are like or how like I'm

1101
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: a sitting duck for getting exploited by a woman that

1102
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: just wants it for my money. I've been, I've been,

1103
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean I know I can pick

1104
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: a woman to have a child with me. I have values,

1105
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, and they sometimes it's like that's another thing,

1106
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: is like sometimes the woman that aligns with my values

1107
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: actually find this often the woman that aligns the most

1108
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: with my values does not make me feel passion, But

1109
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: she's she's a very good person.

1110
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: And a great baby maker.

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00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: No, no, not even not even it's not even like

1112
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: even like she's like not even a sexual thing. It's

1113
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: just like her values. I respect her values. You know,

1114
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: how much time do you have? Okay, I have another well,

1115
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean off off screen. You guys are calling me

1116
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: as Daniel. Okay, this is another I'm filled with theories,

1117
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: and I think one of the major reasons as to why,

1118
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: and people are gonna be upset with me for saying this,

1119
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: as to why, uh, the institution of marriage is suffering

1120
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: so much, is because I personally think that there was

1121
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: farther back in society. It's this the whole thing, like

1122
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: withou like farther farther back in time, there was a

1123
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: clear distinctnction amongst the classes of women in society. MM,

1124
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: there were there were women that you court and they

1125
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: don't and they're you know what I mean, and that

1126
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: you don't have sex before marriage and all this stuff,

1127
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: and then you know, you do the whole thing. And

1128
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: there were prostitutes and there was a clear distinction in

1129
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: society and men weren't just.

1130
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: Like between visits and no's and black queens exactly. I

1131
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: don't know I agree with that, but I understand what

1132
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: you're saying.

1133
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: I also, because all people are I'm talking about the

1134
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: systems in which we live, they had to pick. You

1135
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: have to pick all women because all women want to

1136
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: be free and too experience prostitutes. The benefit of being

1137
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: prostitute is you get to you're not beholding to all

1138
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: these different rules that the wives have to beholden to.

1139
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: You could be free. You can move to society as

1140
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: you want, you know what I mean. However, obviously your

1141
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: life is highly in danger. You know all these different you're.

1142
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 5: Extreme as prostitute. There's mischief that feels like that the

1143
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 5: mistress I feels like I don't want to be the wife.

1144
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: I'm just happy being I know.

1145
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: But now we're getting into two subgroups. If you if

1146
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: you boil it down, it's like the wife is going

1147
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: to call the mistress of prostitute same thing, you know

1148
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: what I mean pretty much.

1149
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, the girl that excites you that you have a

1150
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 8: baby with, she's on the courting side for sure, or

1151
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 8: is she on the prostitute side?

1152
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 5: Who knows.

1153
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: Exactly?

1154
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: And this is actually actually where I have to Yeah,

1155
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: you stop talking about it.

1156
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: Because now, Yeah, one of my favorite songs on the album, by.

1157
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: The way, it's awesome, my favorite. Man.

1158
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 6: You have one of the most beautiful voices ever, so talented.

1159
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to meet you.

1160
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: So that actually might be the most honest song on

1161
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: the album.

1162
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: Probably a waste of your time.

1163
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I think that if all of us, I

1164
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 5: think that's the problem, right, Like all of us act

1165
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 5: like we know, and none of us truly do.

1166
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: We just know what we believe in whatever moment in

1167
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 2: time that we're in.

1168
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 5: And if you're really doing this life thing right, you

1169
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 5: remain open and you allow yourself to change in evall,

1170
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 5: So you'll probably be saying who knows for the rest

1171
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 5: of your life.

1172
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: Who knows is actually always the right answer?

1173
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that is, yeah, very like, yeah, do what

1174
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: that will like? Yeah? Yeah, who knows? So you just

1175
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: whatever you think you're supposed to do is really the

1176
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: only thing that you can afford.

1177
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 5: To be doing and think about all the stuff we

1178
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 5: stress about that we truly don't know, you know what

1179
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like all of these meanings of life and

1180
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 5: where we go after we die, who we pray to,

1181
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 5: all of these different things, who actually knows?

1182
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: Nobody really knows.

1183
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: And yeah, but learning to to live with that is.

1184
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of like I've been in this space lately

1185
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I used to think be thinking so

1186
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: hard and so deeply on things, was like would give

1187
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: me a leg up or an advantage and moving to

1188
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: the world, And I'm like, Oh, I actually think it's

1189
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: it's yeah, thinking is, yeah, you know what I mean,

1190
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: Because it's you can't control after a certain point. If

1191
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: you want to control outcomes, you have to be willing

1192
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: to enact violence on others or to lie, to cheat,

1193
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: or to steal. So it's just kind of like, yeah,

1194
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna move.

1195
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 5: On the song moon, you ask, who's gonna be my Jesus?

1196
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 5: How does your dad feel when he hears you say

1197
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 5: things like that.

1198
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: At this At this point, he's like he just doesn't

1199
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: like cursing. It's very very cribbing like that. Every everything else.

1200
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: He's like, uh, you know what, he's gonna be Okay,

1201
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: He's not a dummy, so he'll like, he'll figure it out.

1202
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't agree though. Yeah.

1203
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 5: It's my last question. Man, if you could sit with

1204
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 5: the version of yourself who first dropped the Fruitian Freudiandian Freudian,

1205
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 5: what warning would you give that young brother and what

1206
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 5: hope would you offer him?

1207
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: I would tell him there is nothing to fear, and

1208
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: literally just that, and if you are afraid, you can

1209
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: just go and sit down somewhere until you're not afraid,

1210
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: you know. But making decisions and moving to the world

1211
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: afraid is it's the only way you'll have regrets. I

1212
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: feel making like fight or flight decisions. I think I'd

1213
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: have to think about that more. But off the top

1214
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: of my head, yeah, being afraid, it's like, there's no

1215
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: need to be afraid. You're good at your job. Just

1216
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: be good at your job and do it.

1217
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: But what do you want to hear that Let's get

1218
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 3: something off down on right now. What's your favorite record

1219
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 3: that you would love the masters to hear. I feel

1220
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 3: like you should play a couple We're already gonna play

1221
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 3: have a baby with Me. Yeah, that's the single, right.

1222
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: The next single, who Knows?

1223
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: That was good, definitely who Knows, Who Knows? Who Knows?

1224
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 3: And then you got a look at your album to

1225
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 3: see what's on.

1226
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: I do because I'm this conversation is very exciting for.

1227
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: Me, so I love that.

1228
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good, that's the win. I would say, who knows,

1229
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: rain down.

1230
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 3: Rain Down. We appreciate you for joining us. Absolutely, it

1231
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 3: was a great conversation for you.

1232
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely check you, Vie.

1233
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: We might hurt you when you come back, but.

1234
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: Genuine Caesar is the breakfast club. Good morning, every day,

1235
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 3: breakfast club.

1236
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: You're clinical, yachdum