Speaker 1: Look mare, Oh, I see you my own bone. Look
Speaker 1: over there is that culture. Yes, wow, lost culture ding dung.
Speaker 1: Lost culture is calling take any breath, exhale, inhale, excel.
Speaker 1: It's obviously you first have to inhale the exhale. That's
Speaker 1: actually really culture number eight. You first have hail to.
Speaker 1: Breathing is really fundament. Breathing has really.
Speaker 2: Saved my ass in recent times. And I feel like
Speaker 2: I need to really dig into this. I am like
Speaker 2: out of breath, I'm like tight in the chest.
Speaker 1: Why oh, I'm so happy you're saying this public leap
Speaker 1: because now we can all watch it. Because you can't
Speaker 1: trust someone to watch their own health. We all need
Speaker 1: eyes on Boone Yang's chest and lungs. Please.
Speaker 2: Hey, my chest is down here and it is really
Speaker 2: tight and tense, and I just need to like get
Speaker 2: it loosened up, you know.
Speaker 1: And this is really hot what you're doing. Bowen's rubbing
Speaker 1: his titters and sort of being very orgasmic about this.
Speaker 1: Do you actually feel lately that you're breathing and like
Speaker 1: stuff is different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something's going on. The body keeps the score and
Speaker 2: no it's not this. Our guest is making a little
Speaker 2: cigarette motion. It's not that I am in Canada and
Speaker 2: maybe that has something to do with it. Although I'm
Speaker 2: at the same sea level, I'm at the same No,
Speaker 2: it's this, most of my life is still the same.
Speaker 1: It's not that you now what I'm going to say
Speaker 1: right now, which is such a wife thing to say,
Speaker 1: as I'm going to say this to our guests and
Speaker 1: to everyone listening. Well, he knows how I feel about
Speaker 1: the cigarettes. The cigarettes are not really figuring in anymore.
Speaker 1: Can I say something? There was a deal that we
Speaker 1: made years ago, and I periodically bring this up because
Speaker 1: it is important and it is sort of indicative of
Speaker 1: you not holding up an end of a bargain, which
Speaker 1: is that when I started therapy, you were going to
Speaker 1: stop smoking. That was the But then guess what what
Speaker 1: COVID happened. Everything changed, COVID as an excuse, COVID happened,
Speaker 1: and now all bets are off. Is that was that
Speaker 1: in the fine print of the verbal agreement that deal? Well,
Speaker 1: I'll just say for my health, therapy has been amazing,
Speaker 1: and I think not smoking would help you feel less
Speaker 1: like your chest was locked up and you couldn't breathe.
Speaker 1: That's just me, though, how did this?
Speaker 2: I just wanted to remark on how I've been breathing.
Speaker 2: I've been more aware of my breathing lately, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, and.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it became antagonistic. And obviously your
Speaker 1: problem is due to stress. So why am I piling on?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's okay, you know what
Speaker 1: this is why it can't just be me watching this.
Speaker 1: It has to be all of us, the community. We
Speaker 1: have to watch on one young self because I clearly
Speaker 1: can't be trusted. We have to watch each other. This
Speaker 1: is a mutual weight network. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: we were speaking of watching. We were saying, just before
Speaker 1: we got on with our guests, we were talking about
Speaker 1: Disney for a hot sec did you see this? For
Speaker 1: you did it? But did you see this? Are you
Speaker 1: aware of the four hour video review of the Star
Speaker 1: Wars Hotel that this girl posted where it's just the
Speaker 1: most thorough dragging of the Star Wars hotel from every
Speaker 1: single hated it. So she basically was like, she's this girl.
Speaker 1: Her name is Jenny Nicholson. She's like a YouTube video
Speaker 1: blogger of blogger, I guess, and she her thing is
Speaker 1: niche fandoms, theme parks and immersive experiences. That's like what
Speaker 1: she that's her whole bag, and the three of those
Speaker 1: converge at Disney. And also she's like a Star Wars freak.
Speaker 1: She's like really super smart and adorable and like she
Speaker 1: like has a big following, and she's very very, very
Speaker 1: detailed and clear about her experience at the Star Wars hotel,
Speaker 1: which she said cost over six thousand dollars for two people.
Speaker 1: It was a two night hotel stay. It was immersive,
Speaker 1: and you got to watch it on like one point
Speaker 1: seventy five or times two speed because it is so thrilling,
Speaker 1: like get on a StairMaster, open up and you will
Speaker 1: be walking at a pace you've never walked before. Like
Speaker 1: it is a thrilling watch. I never thought it would be.
Speaker 1: People were sending me this like have you seen this yet,
Speaker 1: and I was like, listen, I'm not this far gone
Speaker 1: and then cut to me like soaking in all of it.
Speaker 1: It was a blow by blow dragging of this experience
Speaker 1: which is now closed by the way.
Speaker 2: This is giving me like I didn't know my husband
Speaker 2: TikTok or the right, Like I didn't know my husband
Speaker 2: well this girl is.
Speaker 1: Nominated for a Cultural Award for this show. But anyway,
Speaker 1: it was just so unreal to think about just how
Speaker 1: crazy it is, like how far gone it is, Like
Speaker 1: because she was saying, like, you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people might think like it's like the super rich people
Speaker 1: that are buying tickets to this like actually know her
Speaker 1: experience is. It was a lot of middle class people
Speaker 1: who clearly had splurged on this vacation because they thought
Speaker 1: Disney is you know, when you say the word Disney,
Speaker 1: you think of this like experience of like luxury and excellence,
Speaker 1: and like they're this brand, like you're gonna get something
Speaker 1: out of But it fools middle class people because you
Speaker 1: get there and it's like, all right, you're cooped up
Speaker 1: in a hotel with no windows. It is the hotel
Speaker 1: rooms were size of boxes, and it's like an immersive
Speaker 1: experience in that like there's like characters walking around, but
Speaker 1: like none of the things are really playable. She just
Speaker 1: it's a really worth while watching it. I sat there
Speaker 1: with my mouth open. I was like, this is so crazy.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Can I ask an insane question? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Was I supposed to be talking? This is what your
Speaker 1: third fourth time on the podcast. I know, wait, how
Speaker 1: does it wait?
Speaker 3: Like you introduced me and then I talked, So the
Speaker 3: way it works is, yeah, that's okay how it works. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Pretend I didn't do that. Sit tight for
Speaker 3: like ninety more seconds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thought, yeah, I will talk later, Okay, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that thing about you talking is going to come in
Speaker 1: a major way in a second. Now, whose voice was that?
Speaker 1: I don't know, problem voice, Fantasma.
Speaker 2: This is a very good friend, a very special guest,
Speaker 2: a true true artist, pioneer, a pioneer you might know
Speaker 2: his lovely work, most recently in his directorial debut, Problemista.
Speaker 2: I wanted to give it the title my first movie.
Speaker 2: And I think a filmmaker has called her first movie
Speaker 2: my first Oh no, it's a musician is calling her
Speaker 2: first album my first album or.
Speaker 1: Something that doesn't work as well for me. I think
Speaker 1: my first movie is so much more, so much bigger,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And that's why the title
Speaker 1: of episode so far for this is my fourth episode
Speaker 1: of Lost Culture.
Speaker 2: My fourth episode of Lost Culture. But I mean, I mean,
Speaker 2: don't you can't you picture like two women at a
Speaker 2: nail salon and then one of them goes, what are
Speaker 2: we doing tonight? We're gonna go see my first movie.
Speaker 1: You know, so many different ways. But when you were read,
Speaker 1: think in there, why do I really want to take
Speaker 1: your advice? I think it wasn't him. I think it
Speaker 1: was the twenty four, the suits at A twenty four.
Speaker 1: Blame the suits, is what I always say. I think
Speaker 1: about that with the Disney Wars, Disney World Star Wars,
Speaker 1: Disney Roo, Blame the Wars. Disney's starting girl, iiger come
Speaker 1: at us now.
Speaker 2: He has a new show coming out on HBO called
Speaker 2: is it HBO or Max? I guess it's Max?
Speaker 1: Right? No, no, no, not yet, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: you know what, well, let him tell us where it is. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it is coming out on He's having to look it up.
Speaker 1: It's coming out on HBO June seven, HBO Prestige. Come on,
Speaker 1: it's garbage.
Speaker 2: No, of course, garbage on Max. This is fantasmis a
Speaker 2: really star studded cast. It'll be I can't wait to
Speaker 2: see it. I have a shirt that says fantasmis Hadad's Trucks,
Speaker 2: New Jersey, and it is one of my favorite shirts.
Speaker 2: I love that shirt. Thank you fantastics for giving me.
Speaker 1: That not your first shirt but your favorite shirt. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: Should we bring him in so we get some of
Speaker 1: that famous talking for sure? All right, here we go. Everyone, welcome.
Speaker 1: He's in the studio. Hey, I just got here. You've arrived.
Speaker 1: Can I say in a Broadway? You have arrived in
Speaker 1: a Broadway? Oh? Oh in a Broadway? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: not in a Broadway like I you haven't stopped the board.
Speaker 1: I have certainly not arrived in Broadway, but in a
Speaker 1: broad sense. Yeah wow. Any interest in Broadway? No, in
Speaker 1: performing in broad Broadway? No, in performing in Broadway. No,
Speaker 1: that sounds so difficult. Like would you would either of
Speaker 1: you ever like fully be on a play? Yeah? Do
Speaker 1: you do it? I would do it? I would you
Speaker 1: would do it? Okay, Wow, Okay, I think it would.
Speaker 1: It would really depend on on what it was on
Speaker 1: the text. I've seen some one with like Solo Show
Speaker 1: was like Jody Comer was in this play last year
Speaker 1: on probably called Prima Facie, which is just her doing
Speaker 1: a continuous, long monologue and like the subject matter was
Speaker 1: really intense and she was very physical in it and
Speaker 1: it was just her and she never leaves the stage.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, I don't understand that. But
Speaker 1: in a way where I could walk in and like
Speaker 1: say a little as we call him the best zinger
Speaker 1: and then leave, I would I would love it. I'd
Speaker 1: love to do money. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are actively seeking zinger parts. If there are
Speaker 3: any singer parts in Lempika, Matt Rodgers will take it.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Now, like let's say you, let's say with each of us,
Speaker 2: and really, let's just say, for the purposes of this
Speaker 2: thought exercise, you are on a Broadway show and the
Speaker 2: three of us are on different Broadway shows, or maybe
Speaker 2: it's the same one, it doesn't matter, but each of
Speaker 2: us just have to come in twice per act and
Speaker 2: do our basinga, do our bazinga, and then walk out. Right,
Speaker 2: what are we doing in the dressing room? How are
Speaker 2: we passing the time? Are we like being so disciplined?
Speaker 2: Are we playing video games? Are we reading?
Speaker 3: I mean, you know that it would start with, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm going to write the thing in the dressing room
Speaker 3: because I actually like have like four hours to kill
Speaker 3: I'm going to write I'm gonna like do this, and
Speaker 3: then you just end up scrolling on your phone.
Speaker 1: Damn. I wouldn't be on a show. I would write
Speaker 1: a show.
Speaker 3: But the idea of like being there every night night
Speaker 3: seeing now like our friends do it and Oh Mary,
Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, that looks so hard.
Speaker 1: It's a lot. I think that I would be pacing
Speaker 1: and socializing, which would be even more tiring, because I know,
Speaker 1: socializing with who if you're like with that stage, like
Speaker 1: like anyone with the audience. No, certainly not, because they're
Speaker 1: going to go outside and be like, hey, hey, what
Speaker 1: do you think of the play? I'm about to be in?
Speaker 1: It donna get really good. It's gonna get really good.
Speaker 1: It's gonna get really good once I come on. No,
Speaker 1: but that's how I tend to like do my downtime.
Speaker 1: But bo, when I think you would really literally be
Speaker 1: reading and laying on your back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be reading and land on my back. But
Speaker 2: with our friends who are doing Oh Mary, do you
Speaker 2: see firsthand what and pat it's having on their social lives,
Speaker 2: because that's the thing that we the three of us,
Speaker 2: kind of care about. I think I think, can I
Speaker 2: go out?
Speaker 1: But can I go out? Okay, I'll take it, but
Speaker 1: can I go out? Can I go to three dollar Bill?
Speaker 1: Can I go to three dollar Bill on a Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Animal for the first time.
Speaker 3: Can I go to Animal for the seventh time today?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think Cole does the play and then goes home
Speaker 3: and recharges as the sense that I get, yes, But
Speaker 3: obviously Cole is carrying the show, and James becomes very disciplined,
Speaker 3: very like school night, like right, go home to care
Speaker 3: and then like errands in the morning, and then like play.
Speaker 2: How does he feel about going into the summer on
Speaker 2: Broadway literally on Broadway, literally on Broadway? But I know
Speaker 2: he I know that boy loves his summer.
Speaker 3: That boy loves his summer, but he loves working getting
Speaker 3: to do his work. More so, he did not mourn
Speaker 3: the lack of free time for a second.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's good. That's perfect. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: twelve weeks only you're gonna have a summer, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: what what is that? Is that the last? But it's
Speaker 1: like right in that right in the in the peak
Speaker 1: of summer. You know what, though? It can I say something,
Speaker 1: It's not a fucking about him, Okay, it's about the
Speaker 1: people in the audience getting to it's about It's not
Speaker 1: about him. It's about the it's about. It's about the
Speaker 1: fans that traveled internationally to see. Oh, Mary, so I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear it about jams.
Speaker 3: I mean that's Broadway, right, people do travel to for this. Oh,
Speaker 3: that's like usually this show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is international appeal, it's an international figure, Mary Todd.
Speaker 1: I know they'll learn about American history. They do exactly,
Speaker 1: So why so, James? But you know what this is pathetic.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew you would you would
Speaker 1: come on here and that we'd be in a fight
Speaker 1: with James. Wait, but I just said that he didn't
Speaker 1: care though.
Speaker 3: No, it's not roll back to putting words in my mouth.
Speaker 3: You are putting words in my mouth typical you.
Speaker 1: No one ever said, I'm like the wall is red
Speaker 1: and you're like, whoa, why is it blue? Because it's
Speaker 1: color blind? I'm colorblind? Honey. Wait, this always comes up.
Speaker 3: I feel like I always like I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: always microaggressing on your color blindness.
Speaker 1: Wait, do you want to know where I just pictured you?
Speaker 1: And I laughed a lot. Wait to myself just now,
Speaker 1: I think that I would be so upset. I would
Speaker 1: be so upset the entire time.
Speaker 3: Things that are like hyper curated and hyper regimented when
Speaker 3: they want you to have like a very immercific paint
Speaker 3: by numbers or immersive experience. I it's I'm so allergic
Speaker 3: to it. I just took okay, wait, I just took
Speaker 3: a every now and then, Okay, every now and then
Speaker 3: I will take a group fitness class of some sort
Speaker 3: because I like that there's a time where I have
Speaker 3: to go do it, and I know when it ends,
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to spend the whole day thinking
Speaker 3: I'll go work.
Speaker 1: Out in an hour and then another and then you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, is this.
Speaker 2: Generally group fitness classes? Are you talking about one specific group.
Speaker 1: Talking about one specific group class? Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: And I felt like I was scolded for not having
Speaker 3: enough energy.
Speaker 1: That's probably true.
Speaker 3: I felt like, I mean, not scolded, but definitely like
Speaker 3: the teacher said, guys, the point of group fitness is
Speaker 3: to feed off of each other's energy.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, and then looked at me.
Speaker 3: Oh, and then said something that I thought was so telling.
Speaker 3: She like accidentally opened a window into her psyche. She said,
Speaker 3: you can make noise, heer, I'm not your mother or
Speaker 3: your wife. Oh I see okay it, but see, I
Speaker 3: think another reason you go there is to observe, to observe,
Speaker 3: you like observing.
Speaker 1: I do love observing. I do love observing. So then
Speaker 1: you being scholded, you're saying every I wasn't scolded. That's
Speaker 1: a big word. But it was like this motivation that
Speaker 1: feels aggressive, and it takes you a second because this
Speaker 1: motivation that feels aggressive. Yeah, you're like, I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 1: do what you said, but like also it's just like
Speaker 1: mm hmmm mm.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna do what you said, but you can't
Speaker 3: command me to feel any sort of way about it.
Speaker 1: I turn this thing up, but I'm not gonna my
Speaker 1: energy might still be bad. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: And okay, so you know what I also hate when
Speaker 3: this negative energy I'm bringing into this beautiful bock.
Speaker 1: No, it's perfect. Well, after this, you're going to say
Speaker 1: something you love. Okay, yeah, after this, I'm going to
Speaker 1: say something animal, animal to a bar, animal, great drinks,
Speaker 1: hot guys. Perfect me say.
Speaker 3: No, I don't like it when, like you know, when
Speaker 3: like a friend makes a meal. First of all, dinners
Speaker 3: in general, don't invite your dinners. Don't let me eat
Speaker 3: alone in peace when a friend makes a meal and
Speaker 3: then there's that very performative like, oh wow, that that
Speaker 3: was really great, and then everyone that goes, oh yeah
Speaker 3: that was really yum. Yeah yeah, oh thanks thanks, Yeah
Speaker 3: that was great. That was really ye me thanks, thanks,
Speaker 3: And it's like it just feels so like performative because
Speaker 3: then it's like then I chime in and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: thank you, that was so great, but it's like I
Speaker 3: didn't get to say it at my own time, right, Oh,
Speaker 3: It's it's sort of like okay, and now is the
Speaker 3: part where we express great.
Speaker 1: It's like it's so like systemized. You feel there's no
Speaker 1: way for you to be genuine yeah about the way
Speaker 1: in which you've enjoyed the meal and the degree to
Speaker 1: which you have enjoyed it. Once other people have sort
Speaker 1: of started the.
Speaker 3: Sty like, now is the moment when you do it.
Speaker 3: It's like a standing ovation exactly exactly. But are you
Speaker 3: Are you a fan of those? How do you feel
Speaker 3: about standing ovations?
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not a fan.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen you ever stand for a
Speaker 2: standing ovation. And that's okay, what's the uh the State
Speaker 2: of the Union address? If you zoom in I'm there sitting.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's true. I stand, I stand, I rise.
Speaker 1: You rise.
Speaker 2: But I see when you were talking about dinner, I
Speaker 2: thought you were going to bring up how someone makes dinner, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then sets it down, everyone eats it and everyone.
Speaker 1: Goes, oh, that was really good. That was really good.
Speaker 2: And then what I thought you were going to say
Speaker 2: that annoyed you and the performance was.
Speaker 1: What's in it? Or how did you make it? I
Speaker 1: don't want to know. I don't care.
Speaker 2: No, it's not it's about the person who made the dinner,
Speaker 2: and I do this. I'm guilty of this. I go, oh,
Speaker 2: that's it's fine. I kind of I didn't if I
Speaker 2: didn't have this agreed. I didn't really you know, like
Speaker 2: like when you start to apologize. Oh, but that's you
Speaker 2: in general, though, that's you in general. You don't like compliments.
Speaker 1: But is that not a performance? Oh it is a performance? Oh? Yes, performance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm with you. Like I love to go
Speaker 1: out to dinner with a bunch of people. I think
Speaker 1: that's great because it's like it's not we can all agree.
Speaker 1: Oh that was so good, Like it's not about us.
Speaker 1: No one's like put on the spot at that moment. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: the thing with dinner parties is I don't know how
Speaker 1: to say this. No matter who you are, your food
Speaker 1: is not as good as a restaurant's food. Like your food,
Speaker 1: no matter who you are, if you're cooking the food
Speaker 1: at your house, it wasn't as good as a restaurant.
Speaker 1: You're not a restaurant. You're not a restaurant, so you'll
Speaker 1: never be a restaurant because if you are trying to
Speaker 1: be a restaurant, you made this once today, yeah, one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. And also it's like I could tell you
Speaker 1: only made it once today. At a restaurant, they're making
Speaker 1: these things upwards of nine, ten, eleven, twelve times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's time to get it right. To get it right
Speaker 1: isn't tried and true? Yeah? Oh so not for nothing.
Speaker 1: I go to your house, like the silverware is it clean? Oh? Stop?
Speaker 1: At what restaurant? I don't trust other people's homes and cooking.
Speaker 1: And if I have to do that, it's like know
Speaker 1: that I'm not being genuine when I'm like enthusiastic about it,
Speaker 1: that's me doing my classic Matt Rogers performance of enthusiasm. Wow,
Speaker 1: because I'm not where else do you perform enthusiasm everywhere
Speaker 1: I go? Everywhere I go? I'm like, and what is
Speaker 1: the emotion you wish you could showcase? Surely? Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding. I'm actually I'm happy to be everywhere that
Speaker 1: I go, and I really do enjoy.
Speaker 3: The way you backpedaled immediately into your performative joy. It's
Speaker 3: okay to be It's okay to be surly sometimes.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is, I would rather be at a
Speaker 1: restaurant always, always. Now that's the T shirt I would
Speaker 1: instant always always, thank you. We should put that on merch.
Speaker 1: We should.
Speaker 2: But nothing we've talked about and covered so far, Julio,
Speaker 2: disqualifies Disney World for you.
Speaker 1: Nothing.
Speaker 2: Wait, what do you mean, Like, I think you would
Speaker 2: still go and enjoy it. Not that Star Wars hotel,
Speaker 2: but I think you would stay in like definitely not
Speaker 2: an overnight experience.
Speaker 1: Fine. Have you ever done an escape room? No? Coolio,
Speaker 1: I think you might like that. An escape room?
Speaker 2: Yes, you know who likes with the little games. You
Speaker 2: know who We did an escape room with recently, our
Speaker 2: mutual friend George.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We had a great time with George doing an
Speaker 1: escape room and he loved it and it was. It
Speaker 1: was his very first one. We went in Hollywood and
Speaker 1: he had a wonderful time in the escape room and
Speaker 1: then left even saying, this is a big part of
Speaker 1: my whole deal.
Speaker 2: Now, wow, I think I don't want to prescribe an
Speaker 2: open mindedness, but I think you can be curious if
Speaker 2: you want. Unless you if you've ruled it out, I
Speaker 2: can't stop you.
Speaker 1: No, I'll try everything once. Okay, hmmm, except for most foods. Well,
Speaker 1: that's different. The seam would matter. I think. Yes, there's
Speaker 1: different themes like saw like, not all of them. You
Speaker 1: don't do this well okay, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: You're thinking about haunted house, you're thinking of thin house,
Speaker 1: and you're thinking of scary escape rooms. But there's some
Speaker 1: that are like I mean, remember the one we did
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn that was themed to like it was Chinese.
Speaker 1: It was Chinese. It was what were you escaping a
Speaker 1: Chinese room? It was It was a tiniest curse. It
Speaker 1: was fun. It was a very fun escape room. Though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but are you good at like puzzles and are you
Speaker 1: good at like yes, you are. No, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: use the box.
Speaker 3: He famously thinks very outside the box, and like what
Speaker 3: if I made a dress with a box.
Speaker 1: That's thinking outside the box, thinking about not even what
Speaker 1: goes in the box, what the box is gonna wear.
Speaker 1: That's thinking outside the box.
Speaker 3: Wait have you seen OMG Fashion? No, I need to
Speaker 3: start with Julia Fox.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, we need to start.
Speaker 1: It's really fun. Okay.
Speaker 3: Basically, it's like the episodes are like twenty minutes perfect
Speaker 3: and three people come and then she's like, make me
Speaker 3: a dress out of this plastic bag, and then they
Speaker 3: come back and then she's like I like that one
Speaker 3: the end, and it's so entertaining watch Julia. Julia, Yeah,
Speaker 3: very unpretentious.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's so a pretentious.
Speaker 2: Well that's that's the thing about Julia Fox that I
Speaker 2: think she gets better than anybody, which is make it
Speaker 2: inviting and yet also like so severe and so like
Speaker 2: from somewhere, but like make it like unpretentious.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I told something to Uh.
Speaker 3: I was doing I was doing press for your favorite
Speaker 3: my favorite, my favorite thing in the world. But and
Speaker 3: you know how you go and then they like put
Speaker 3: you in the clothes and they take the pictures.
Speaker 1: It's called the photo shoot.
Speaker 3: And I said something that like the stylist or like
Speaker 3: one of the not the set, but like the the
Speaker 3: someone that was working with the stylist looked at me
Speaker 3: like what because I said I don't. I was like
Speaker 3: there was They were showing me like clothes that were
Speaker 3: like really nice clothes, like Lueve or whatever, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I don't want to be aspirational.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: I don't want for anyone to see this and think
Speaker 3: I should spend money on clothes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And then it's like you could feel like
Speaker 1: the blood vessels yeah, because it's literally it's literally literally
Speaker 1: the whole, literally the whole. They'thing with you. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that if I'm that person, like what that
Speaker 1: could feel like to me is like a superiority thing.
Speaker 1: But I think that that's just your truth is like
Speaker 1: you don't want to be a part of that. It's
Speaker 1: not the way that you dress, it's not what you
Speaker 1: like represent and stand for. So it's not it's not
Speaker 1: even just like I'm better than fashion and this person
Speaker 1: shrivels in turns stand.
Speaker 3: And I love fashion, But I think like ideally, like
Speaker 3: someone would see a picture and be like, lol, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I should go get a plastic bag and
Speaker 3: like make a scarf out of it.
Speaker 1: I needed at the way that eye patch, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: because I saw us wearing a luiv eyepatch and I
Speaker 1: want a looiv eye patch. Now wait did I No?
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that you would hate that if anyone
Speaker 1: were to ever say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: I yea that's fun at least, So like a luayve
Speaker 1: eepacks that costs like ten thousand but like five yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: which probably it would right something. Probably don't know what
Speaker 1: the price point is.
Speaker 2: But this is the thing about Julia. Not to keep
Speaker 2: talking about Julia, but she wears things that like no
Speaker 2: one would ever think to wear.
Speaker 1: She's wearing things that are not aspirationally. Yeah, here's what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: I hate like operating and wearing things that have been
Speaker 3: like preapproved by committee that everyone has like decided, oh
Speaker 3: this is good because yeah, you know the whatever magazines
Speaker 3: decided that this was good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you are wearing this like check mark yes.
Speaker 2: So you would never do the mac dala because that
Speaker 2: literally is one person an a winter going down the
Speaker 2: list of being like Julio can't wear this, he has
Speaker 2: to wear.
Speaker 1: This, which I didn't know yeah, I didn't know that either.
Speaker 1: Every single person.
Speaker 3: Imagine having a party where you tell people that's literally
Speaker 3: a wedding, right, that's what they do the bridal party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we're all wearing this horrible color.
Speaker 3: But also like you can't like if you were to
Speaker 3: show up to like a very traditional wedding in like
Speaker 3: jeans and a T shirt, Like people would say something,
Speaker 3: I don't go to weddings either, right right, I think
Speaker 3: they would.
Speaker 1: But that's also going away. You send me your wedding
Speaker 1: invitations going straight to the tracks. Wow, you heard it
Speaker 1: here first. But I'll send a text. I'll send he's
Speaker 1: not coming to dinner, he's not coming to your wedding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's not coming to your met gala. Sorry sorry, no,
Speaker 1: those three things. Let's talk about animal. What to we
Speaker 1: love about it? Are we so happy? Are we sponsored
Speaker 1: by animals? We're not. Let's just it's the big for
Speaker 1: the community in Brooklyn. Yeah, has taken the community by storm.
Speaker 1: Can I say it? We definitely need to figure out
Speaker 1: a bathroom situation, and we can't and won't because there's
Speaker 1: no way to it. Sort of is what it is.
Speaker 1: It's that one bathroom thing. And it's got like a
Speaker 1: trough and there's like at any given time if it's busy, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you pee in there without getting
Speaker 1: pe shy. And that actually became a big conversation amongst
Speaker 1: people that I was there with. It's like you wait
Speaker 1: in line and then you get there and it's like
Speaker 1: there's so many people behind you waiting, and also you're
Speaker 1: right on top of other people. And I don't really
Speaker 1: deal with pea shyness, but then an animal I was
Speaker 1: like because it was a topic on my mind and
Speaker 1: because the space was so small and cramped, like in
Speaker 1: terms of peeing. And by the way, we love the establishment.
Speaker 1: We've been to the establishment many times. I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about the bathroom and this phenomenon. I left not having
Speaker 1: peed because I was like, no, I don't know how
Speaker 1: you do that in there. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: do that in there.
Speaker 3: You couldn't emotionally access a part of you that would
Speaker 3: be comfortable enough to pee literally.
Speaker 1: And what did happen was I went outside and pee
Speaker 1: on the street. It's okay, everyone, don't people do it
Speaker 1: all the time? Like I went outside and peede on
Speaker 1: the street, and it was no problem. It flowed out
Speaker 1: of me like truth. Oh my interesting because he didn't
Speaker 1: feel the need to perform there. Yeah, it wasn't even
Speaker 1: about feeling the need to perform. It was like feeling
Speaker 1: the immediacy of performance, like you must pee now, like
Speaker 1: because you regrets having a lot of time here. I
Speaker 1: regrets Animal.
Speaker 3: Okay, you heard it first. And Animal is fun, but
Speaker 3: it will make you regress. Yeah, and I actually do
Speaker 3: think that that's true.
Speaker 1: Like, while I think it's a really fun establishment, I
Speaker 1: have comments about the bathroom and the fact that everyone
Speaker 1: I've ever seen there is regressing. Oh wow, my god. Wow.
Speaker 2: Well, can I ask is that when you say single bathroom,
Speaker 2: is it like one person, single person occupancy in theory,
Speaker 2: or is it like one place for everyone to go
Speaker 2: to pee in the trough?
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the bathroom and Animal that trough like
Speaker 1: the one where it's like there's like, I guess Bowen
Speaker 1: doesn't know what the bathroom Animal. I guess you've never
Speaker 1: even been there before.
Speaker 2: I've been to Animal. I have just never had to
Speaker 2: use the bathroom there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Same, Actually you've never had to peet Animal. I
Speaker 1: guess you're always kind of like in and out.
Speaker 2: I guess, but I also like, no, I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I think it's just like a weird coincidence. I have
Speaker 2: no qualms with using a public restroom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean neither. I see what's happening here. I
Speaker 1: see what's happening here. What's happening One's hey, no, one's
Speaker 1: how to get you. You guys are the two gay
Speaker 1: faces of that other bar portraits, And so y'all are
Speaker 1: trying to poison the minds of the gay community in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: You guys are the faces of the gay community in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: You have big portraits up in what's it called Macre Park. No, No,
Speaker 1: not that way, It's called the Rosemont. There are huge portraits.
Speaker 3: And okay, wait, hold on, but I I would like
Speaker 3: to know Matt, that this is the second time that
Speaker 3: you have said something bad about some express a negative
Speaker 3: opinion and then attributed it to us because you were
Speaker 3: just dragging the bathrooms at Animal and Bowen said, I've
Speaker 3: never used the bathroom an Animal, and then he said, oh,
Speaker 3: you're dragging Animal, Yeah, he was.
Speaker 1: This is my whole thing. By the way, you haven't
Speaker 1: even let me talk about the bathrooms at Rosemont, which
Speaker 1: are also not good enough, right, right, But there's no
Speaker 1: gay bar where the bathrooms are good enough. They're not
Speaker 1: good enough at Metro, they're not good enough anywhere. Like
Speaker 1: it's like, it's just it's the charm. It's part of
Speaker 1: the charm. Part of a Brooklyn gay bar. Charm is
Speaker 1: like you're gonna have a bad time going to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: M it's the doing drugs in the bathroom. It's that
Speaker 1: that makes it a problem.
Speaker 3: It's like grow up, like, grow up, like do them outside?
Speaker 1: Well, there's they're basically like at the door to animal.
Speaker 1: I'm just giving everyone out there that maybe isn't like
Speaker 1: a Brooklyn gay person an experience there. You'd walk up
Speaker 1: to the door and it's the only door I've walked
Speaker 1: up to where the person at the front runs through
Speaker 1: a spiel before you're allowed in.
Speaker 3: It's like, it's definitely not the only place. And that's
Speaker 3: a very New York thing.
Speaker 1: Did a very different thing, Okay, honestly, Julio, it is
Speaker 1: very experientially. It really feels like a Disney pre showing
Speaker 1: like you belong in Orlando, Florida. That's where you belong.
Speaker 3: Wait, but I don't think i'd heard I don't think
Speaker 3: i'd heard the speech, and I animal what is it.
Speaker 1: It's basically like it's like no jugs in the bathroom,
Speaker 1: like and then there's like a joke about like where
Speaker 1: you could do it, and then like you know, there's
Speaker 1: like yeah, have fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's giving flight attendant. Yeah, miss door has a routine.
Speaker 3: Miss door has a routine, and that's seventy seven. Miss
Speaker 3: door has a routine. Yeah, miss door has a routine.
Speaker 1: Anyone doing security at any bar from now on is
Speaker 1: they're not security. They are missdoor. Missdoor. Border patrol is
Speaker 1: miss door. They're the door, missus door. What do you
Speaker 1: what are you doing in the United States?
Speaker 3: All right, miss door, it's giving miss door.
Speaker 1: Are carrying more than ten thousand dollars in cash? Okay,
Speaker 1: miss door? Are you missdoor? Yeah? Oh look it's how
Speaker 1: much looking for sugar? Didding this door? What do you
Speaker 1: think they would do? Be so confused and probably take
Speaker 1: us all away. I mean, like, I don't think I
Speaker 1: don't think they have a sense of humor down there
Speaker 1: at border. I mean I think they have to suppress it.
Speaker 1: They do. If they think it's funny, they won't show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they won't show. They definitely won't show.
Speaker 2: They definitely won't show. But the border people in Canada
Speaker 2: I got here, they are not Canadian in behavior and manner.
Speaker 1: And they are not being kind and welcoming. No, they're
Speaker 1: really drunk on power. I'm gonna say it, Wow, do
Speaker 1: you have a Canadian passport? No? No, It's funny.
Speaker 2: I showed up like I had my work permit like form,
Speaker 2: and then I got there and they were like, you
Speaker 2: don't need to be here. I was like why. They
Speaker 2: were like, you're in the system, like you're at you're
Speaker 2: a citizen. I was like, oh yeah, and then I.
Speaker 1: Went you forgot you were a Canadian citizen. I forgot that.
Speaker 2: I thought work permit just meant like you needed to
Speaker 2: have that no matter where you went, like it just
Speaker 2: didn't matter what nationality. I'm just so stupid. I take
Speaker 2: all these things for granted, but didn't need it.
Speaker 1: You're not. I don't think you're stupid at all. I
Speaker 1: think you had a moment. Let me say something. I
Speaker 1: think you had a moment. You just had to lapse.
Speaker 3: You have a lot on your plate and you can't
Speaker 3: keep track of all these things. I know you have
Speaker 3: to give yourself some grace.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, I do think Boon Yang, I'm going
Speaker 1: to say this to you publicly. I do think it
Speaker 1: is hire an assistant time. This is so interesting because
Speaker 1: assistants are on the brain. Yeah, they should be. I
Speaker 1: think it's time for you to hire an assistant.
Speaker 2: We have a cast assistant. So on Canadian sets they
Speaker 2: have a cast assistant.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, and we.
Speaker 2: Have one person whose name is James. He's wonderful, different
Speaker 2: than a different than a PA, and so he just
Speaker 2: is for whatever, principles whatever. I hate the hierarchy thing,
Speaker 2: but it's like, principles, get a cast assistant. And then
Speaker 2: he was just like, what do you like to drink?
Speaker 2: And it was like it's like I'll stock your fridge.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, diet coke and celsius. And then
Speaker 2: I showed up the next day and it was full
Speaker 2: and it was like.
Speaker 1: Die cocon celsius. This is d to be careful with
Speaker 1: the celsius. Oh. I know. That's sort of what an
Speaker 1: assistant does though, and they can also do things that
Speaker 1: aren't just like elective and like this will be fun
Speaker 1: to have diet coke, Like that'll be amazing, even though
Speaker 1: it is like something you asked for you should have
Speaker 1: the diet coke. It's like, but that feeling was amazing.
Speaker 1: I know. But think about this, like, now you can
Speaker 1: have a person that like responds to the emails you
Speaker 1: don't want to respond to, pays certain bills like you know,
Speaker 1: like gets on top of things. I just feel like
Speaker 1: you're a prime candidate for one. We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2: Well, what are the names of the fictional assistance And
Speaker 2: you know, way back in the day, hantsen clst Hants
Speaker 2: and Celeste. Now have those names changed in sort of
Speaker 2: what they mean to you now that we all know
Speaker 2: and are very close to a Celeste in our lives.
Speaker 2: Speaking of course about celestim.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's so interesting because the name is a little
Speaker 1: bit more real now, right, Like it's not this I
Speaker 1: never thought about that. You create this name for this
Speaker 1: idea of this person, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: there comes the real person. Well no, because Celeste is
Speaker 1: so different than no. Of course, the idea of Celeste,
Speaker 1: which that's what I call greta titleman's character.
Speaker 3: Yes, in the movie, Uh, the idea of Celeste. Now
Speaker 3: that's a title because.
Speaker 1: The idea of Celeste is Greta Titleman, and Celestim is
Speaker 1: not the idea of celest No, no, they are their
Speaker 1: own person. Of course I'm riding hard for this train.
Speaker 1: This is because Greta Titleman is Celeste.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, she is celest in concept. Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: do think about this quite often. I do draw this,
Speaker 2: I connect these dots in my mind. Whether I'm with
Speaker 2: Celestim or not, I go. My only other encounter with
Speaker 2: the name Celeste has been with a couple other Celestes
Speaker 2: in real life. But mostly I think about Celeste like
Speaker 2: Julio's fictional assistant intern. I'm sorry, intern, And now I
Speaker 2: feel like what I've noticed is paid unpaid intern. What
Speaker 2: I've noticed is Julio has now move moved into the
Speaker 2: realm of made up names, fictional names, names.
Speaker 1: That are oh my god, yeah, I love It's my
Speaker 1: favorite thing to do. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is there any sort of like switch in that, Like
Speaker 2: do you feel like that's there's truth to that statement
Speaker 2: of like you feel like, in order to like further
Speaker 2: filter out from reality, you go, let's make up these
Speaker 2: fictional names, bibo and put it on the pinat and
Speaker 2: like all these like these names.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, creatures are funnier when they have fake names.
Speaker 1: I think, of course.
Speaker 3: I think that's the general rule, of course, because then
Speaker 3: they become more like unplaceable, I guess, and.
Speaker 1: They also get an inner life immediately immediately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the learning curve for people to know how
Speaker 3: to spell purely.
Speaker 1: And and pena is always funny. Yeah, I think I can
Speaker 1: spell it. Go ahead, P I are you m L
Speaker 1: I M and P m hm. I You're so close?
Speaker 1: And yeah I an a yeah, thank you. Yeah that
Speaker 1: was really good. Wow, that was very good. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Now names Matt is a big name person. I was
Speaker 1: just thinking to myself, like, what's your favorite name? Beginnings Chang.
Speaker 1: Beginnings Chang is like such a beginning name and like
Speaker 1: pop culture history for me, like beginnings Chang. Like that's wait,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Can you fill me in on who
Speaker 1: beginnings is? Go ahead, Bowen whose Beginnings Chang?
Speaker 2: Deep House Dish, which is the sketch that James Anderson
Speaker 2: wrote on est and else the ear the King of
Speaker 2: the King of Fake Names, Jen Jen Binks and I'm
Speaker 2: jen Jen Binks and I'm Judged Binks. But when my
Speaker 2: Rudolph posted us and now she Beginnings Chang is like
Speaker 2: stuck in her brain like beginnings, chang is stretches generations,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I was sitting here thinking to myself like, just like,
Speaker 1: do you feel like the concept of your name? And
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't. Her names are Matt Rogers
Speaker 1: and Julio Torres. Do you feel like the concept of
Speaker 1: your name? No, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't, But would you name yourself probably like a
Speaker 3: little sound of some kind. Well, actually I met someone
Speaker 3: who had a kid named Inti int Inti Inty. That's
Speaker 3: so which I was like, Oh, I wish I were
Speaker 3: an Ethy.
Speaker 1: I always want my name to be like Lyda, like
Speaker 1: l e E d A Rida Lida, Like isn't that
Speaker 1: so beautiful? Like that is so beautiful, elegant you're making
Speaker 1: your elegant face. I love Natralia. I love like Leilani.
Speaker 1: I love like you're el Lelantra. I love beautiful sort
Speaker 1: of like ethereal feminine name like LORELEI my favorite friend
Speaker 1: And now I'm not letting everyone know they were not.
Speaker 1: My favorite friend in high school was named Laurenn l
Speaker 1: O r I e n n E Laurien. Wasn't that good? Wow?
Speaker 1: I was just like, how do you get a name
Speaker 1: like that? Because no one I grew up with had one.
Speaker 1: Everyone was Amanda, everyone was everyone ever, everyone was right,
Speaker 1: especially Real Culture number nineteen.
Speaker 2: Everyone was Amanda. But can I say, Matt, I think you,
Speaker 2: out of the three of us, embody.
Speaker 1: Your name the most.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Rogers, it feels I think it feels really
Speaker 2: good on the tongue.
Speaker 1: To say, and so to speak, I disagree.
Speaker 3: I think that Matt Rogers sounds more serious than Matt
Speaker 3: the person. And I would say that Bowen is beautiful
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Bowen. I don't know Yang. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I forget that that's my last name, but.
Speaker 3: It counter it. It grounds the Bowen. Oh interesting my
Speaker 3: humanized as the Bowen.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I agree with you that Bowen is like
Speaker 1: it's got this like just like a beauty and a
Speaker 1: whimsy to it. But also, didn't you say it's quite
Speaker 1: a common Chinese name? Oh?
Speaker 2: Really, Yang is very common, Bowen is is. It's pretty
Speaker 2: all Chinese names are very unique, Like it's like the
Speaker 2: characters are infinite.
Speaker 1: But I like Bowen.
Speaker 2: The Yang is something that I like forget about, which
Speaker 2: sounds weird.
Speaker 1: Mm hm oh why is so pretty? Though, I like
Speaker 1: the why very pretty? Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I like why now letters that you guys want your
Speaker 2: so Matt wants an l leo.
Speaker 1: I think you want like you want a que you want,
Speaker 1: I definitely want.
Speaker 3: I would love a cue. I would also love an
Speaker 3: eye a lowercase I.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, you have one.
Speaker 3: I want more and for them to have more of
Speaker 3: a spotlight in the name, because right now, the eye
Speaker 3: in my name has a supporting role. The I in
Speaker 3: my name is very like would that be all ma'am?
Speaker 1: You know in the scene.
Speaker 3: Oh, but I need the eye to be a protagonist.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, intyty, I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Yeah, can you name me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I can hold on. Okay, Kevin Banks, Kevin Banks? Wait
Speaker 1: that someone already? But how is that so much different
Speaker 1: than Matt Rodgers? You know, Okay, okay, okay, but Kevin Banks.
Speaker 1: It just seems like if you want us to give
Speaker 1: me like a whimsical, silly name that you feel that's
Speaker 1: what I've earned. Kevin Banks. Okay, I'm looking at myself
Speaker 1: being like, am I Lance? Well you couldn't, but that's taken.
Speaker 1: But that's it is taken. There's another big gay lance.
Speaker 1: You can't you can't do that. I have a first
Speaker 1: name for you. I have a first name for you. Okay, ruly, ruly, ruly,
Speaker 1: rulyly do you think I should be named? Don't you
Speaker 1: want it? You want it an l and you wanted
Speaker 1: something interesting? You know what my name should be? Sorry
Speaker 1: to him Leland, I'm taking Leland. Worry to which Leland?
Speaker 1: There's a Leland songwriter and singer Leland. And that's a
Speaker 1: stage name. But it's a beautiful stage I don't think
Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's Leland. I think Leland is
Speaker 1: too too cookie for you.
Speaker 2: Okay, so so sorry, So Matt, do you want a
Speaker 2: quote unquote like established name.
Speaker 1: Here's my name, Philip Dunkret. No, no, what is no?
Speaker 1: You want to Philip dun dunk grit? You don't want to?
Speaker 1: No one, Philip Dunkret Like that's something that I'm using.
Speaker 1: Philip Dunkrit. What is dunkrit from? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: made it up. I made up a word. We're talking about.
Speaker 1: How that's fun? Okay, Yes, okay, I have one. I
Speaker 1: have one dustin Dallas, d Dallas. Though. Yeah, No, I
Speaker 1: think it's perfect for you. Dustin Dallas or like Duncan Dallas,
Speaker 1: don't Dallas. I like Dustin Dallas. Dustin Dallas. One of
Speaker 1: my favorite porn stars name is Dustin Dustin. What does
Speaker 1: he have a last name? Hazel? Dustin Hazel. That's a
Speaker 1: great name. I'm not familiar with Hazel sports. He's wonderful. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: check it out. I feel like both of you. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of your output and your art and your work,
Speaker 1: and both of you, I feel like in your future,
Speaker 1: if not already, have like a gay porn type of
Speaker 1: story to tell through your writing or directing or what
Speaker 1: you mean?
Speaker 3: You mean that like something we make will generate a
Speaker 3: porn spoof that we know.
Speaker 1: Like what he's saying is he wants us to do
Speaker 1: only fans together. He's saying he wants us to start
Speaker 1: up a channel. He wants to watch us.
Speaker 3: I can't open a small business, I like, I really,
Speaker 3: I do not have time.
Speaker 1: It's so much admin work. I can't. I don't know
Speaker 1: how our.
Speaker 3: Friends who our friends who have only fans And it's
Speaker 3: like the amount of time it takes to like in
Speaker 3: oct with people and it's just no, it's.
Speaker 1: It is like a crazy hard job. I recently saw
Speaker 1: someone have like sort of a little bit of a breakdown,
Speaker 1: like it's this guy on only fans and I guess
Speaker 1: he got a message from someone.
Speaker 3: And he put the breakdown on only fans. It was like, no,
Speaker 3: he didn't have a breakdown on OnlyFans. Although I have
Speaker 3: watched some people that I follow on only fans like
Speaker 3: postlong things about how like I have seen some people
Speaker 3: like really open enough about what the toll this takes
Speaker 3: on their mental health and stuff, and I'm like, God,
Speaker 3: then like, please take this to another platform or to
Speaker 3: another service, like not because I don't want to hear it,
Speaker 3: because I'm like, this is not You're not going to
Speaker 3: get what you need.
Speaker 1: From your only fans followers. But maybe the transfer on
Speaker 1: Twitter the community would that's their time. I guess what
Speaker 1: I mean by take it to another platform is like
Speaker 1: take this feeling somewhere else to feel better about it,
Speaker 1: like therapy or like friends or something like that. But
Speaker 1: I did recently see someone that I follow on OnlyFans,
Speaker 1: who I also follow on Instagram sort of say that
Speaker 1: people in his dms get very familiar and sexual and
Speaker 1: treat them sort of like like garbage, like not a person.
Speaker 1: And he was saying, it's like this particular creator was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to have sex with you and your boyfriend,
Speaker 1: Like I don't want if you're an open relationship, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not someone who wants to participate in that. That's
Speaker 1: my preference. And like, because of my job, it seems
Speaker 1: like everyone thinks they can talk to me crazy and
Speaker 1: like throw anything by me, and if I react in
Speaker 1: a certain way, it's like, oh suddenly they're like, oh
Speaker 1: fuck you, you're not as fun as I thought you were. Like, no,
Speaker 1: like you subscribe to.
Speaker 3: Me, which is so childish to think that, like someone's job, right,
Speaker 3: is like how you should like interact with them when
Speaker 3: they're not. It's very like, no, honey, there's a human
Speaker 3: under Mickey.
Speaker 1: Right exactly, Like you can't walk up and grab Mickey's
Speaker 1: butt just because Mickey the character is such as slut,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, right, as a human,
Speaker 1: I'm Mary Mickey is a big whore. But I feel
Speaker 1: like the two of you people waw friendship from the
Speaker 1: two of you.
Speaker 2: Yes, And that's not a bad thing to like that
Speaker 2: is not a toxic thing to like that. That is
Speaker 2: so different from people not only fans, being like treated
Speaker 2: and talked and spoken to like chattel because it's completely
Speaker 2: sexual and whatever.
Speaker 1: Like I can handle that. Yeah. The parasocial thing with
Speaker 1: us is like maybe sometimes people will talk to us
Speaker 1: like as if they know us. And what's funny is
Speaker 1: when they start doing it and they're like like one time,
Speaker 1: like someone came over to Bowen, I was like bitch
Speaker 1: and like yelled bitch and like it was like you
Speaker 1: can feel them feel in the moment, like he didn't
Speaker 1: know what the saga wars. He was like bitch flir. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like you could literally see in a moment
Speaker 1: people realize like, oh, I just talked to him, like
Speaker 1: I know him. I don't know him, but I think
Speaker 1: it's just you know, tales all the time. Totally totally fun.
Speaker 2: I do feel like this is this sounds like such
Speaker 2: a naive discovery, but I feel like people who have
Speaker 2: followings will engender and reflect the things about them onto
Speaker 2: those people, like on a larger scale, does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Like perfect example is Sarah Sherman, Like her fans are
Speaker 2: people who sent her fan art and are so creative
Speaker 2: and so cookie and weird and silly and like that's
Speaker 2: because that's who she is. And like, I feel like, Julio,
Speaker 2: you invite people who are extremely like thoughtful and like
Speaker 2: are just like people?
Speaker 3: What are you saying that? Like people like walk up
Speaker 3: to Sarah and be like, you want to see my
Speaker 3: sit and she does talk about that.
Speaker 2: She's like people do also, Like I think we all
Speaker 2: have this thing of like anyone who has like an
Speaker 2: online or like a persona in one public facing way
Speaker 2: and then a private inner life, which is almost everybody
Speaker 2: like has this weird dissonant thing where it's like, oh
Speaker 2: but you think that, like You're able to bring that
Speaker 2: to me, and I'm supposed to like honor and appraise
Speaker 2: that in a way that you expect and it's.
Speaker 1: Not exactly what it is, and it's not exactly what
Speaker 1: it is, Like I'm trying to find the right words.
Speaker 1: You found him. I did, But like people seem very
Speaker 1: measured with you who are talking to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't think I've had any interactions that
Speaker 3: have made me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, there was one at my Christmas show where
Speaker 1: and I adore this person And if this person hears
Speaker 1: this and knows it's them or thinks it's them, like,
Speaker 1: just take it away from you. I'm just saying in
Speaker 1: an amorphous way. There was someone who came up to
Speaker 1: me once at one of my shows and said, I
Speaker 1: have to tell you, I hated you for a really
Speaker 1: long time. And I listened to the podcast and I
Speaker 1: hated you. I couldn't stand you. And then I realized
Speaker 1: I was you, and that why I hate it very powerful.
Speaker 1: And they go like, because when you are like too much,
Speaker 1: or you're annoying, or you say the thing that you
Speaker 1: shouldn't say, like I just I said I hate him,
Speaker 1: and then I realized, no, I hated myself. All the
Speaker 1: things about you that I don't like were the things
Speaker 1: I didn't like about me. And then they were like,
Speaker 1: and now I love you like I appreciate you, I
Speaker 1: respect you. You inspire me because I have learned to
Speaker 1: love myself. And I was just like sort of taking
Speaker 1: in it, and I was like, oh, like I get it,
Speaker 1: but like it's not. It's it's a lot when you're
Speaker 1: on the receiving end of it, because it's just like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: like you're still hearing the words I hated you, you know,
Speaker 1: of course, and the reason it's why, yeah, and the reason.
Speaker 1: And I'm literally standing there like with the vinyls she
Speaker 1: had bought in my hands, like signing it like okay,
Speaker 1: oh my god, people waiting behind her.
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, what did you write? Not hating
Speaker 3: me anymore? I know I can't be too much winky face.
Speaker 1: I'm knowing me. I probably wrote love you Mama xo
Speaker 1: x so Matt Rogers, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, Like Matt Rogers blocking in with
Speaker 3: a love your Mama, Love your Mama's lake Waite, love
Speaker 3: your Mama, Love your mama.
Speaker 1: Love you mam x x Wow. But it's beautiful. Bowen. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What do you have anything to say to that person
Speaker 1: that called you a bitch? Robertson Niro? Do you want
Speaker 1: to say it's a miner? Robert? Robert was.
Speaker 2: It was in the middle of a Tribeca Film Festival.
Speaker 2: Was his festival.
Speaker 3: It is his festival to revitalize Anta New York, to
Speaker 3: revital to New York after nine eleven.
Speaker 1: You know I was.
Speaker 3: I was a volunteer for the Tribeca Film Festival twice
Speaker 3: when I was in college.
Speaker 1: That's great. It must have been good enough for you
Speaker 1: to go back.
Speaker 3: I just thought like, Oh, if I'm the best volunteer,
Speaker 3: they're gonna give me a job and I'm gonna got
Speaker 3: a visa. So I was just like doing I would
Speaker 3: do anything that people would allow me to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but did you learn a lot about film? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna learn it. No I didn't.
Speaker 3: I was like a nuts shirt and a little Tribeca
Speaker 3: Film Festival t shirt.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about going to those festivals. It is
Speaker 1: so hard to see anything. I don't even know how
Speaker 1: to wrap my head around like quickly. Yeah forgetting. I've
Speaker 1: been to Sundance twice. I've not seen a movie yet
Speaker 1: Sundance kidding just true.
Speaker 2: You went last night, didn't you. You told me about
Speaker 2: things you saw last time you went.
Speaker 1: Bib No, I've never seen a movie at Sundands. I had,
Speaker 1: and it was like, so the ticket is in a seat,
Speaker 1: like you know, you have to get here early. It's
Speaker 1: like any of the good stuff, like I couldn't even
Speaker 1: finaggle my way in with like connections. I was like,
Speaker 1: You're like, can I please watch a movie? I just
Speaker 1: wanted to watch a movie. Watch a movie. I got
Speaker 1: tickets to one movie, which was The Brooks Shields Documentary
Speaker 1: and I was excited about seeing it, but then you're
Speaker 1: at Sundands and it's like, oh so much. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're so tired, everyone's so hung over the entire time,
Speaker 1: and we didn't end up going and there's like the
Speaker 1: Uggs Lounge or whatever, And I mean, when there's the
Speaker 1: Uggs Lounge, do you really have to go see a movie?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? There's so much to do
Speaker 1: in the Uggs Lounge. Yeah, of Cocoa. They make that
Speaker 1: main street of park City so fun, like you don't
Speaker 1: ever have to leave.
Speaker 3: I'm not a festival person. I must say I have
Speaker 3: a hard time with festivals. I think that Edinburgh really
Speaker 3: took it out of me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough one.
Speaker 2: Well that's totally different from like south By, which you
Speaker 2: did for Problemista.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: There, you just show up. You're not really doing anything.
Speaker 3: The movie is made and then but you're still promoting it.
Speaker 3: You're still like putting on a face to like talk
Speaker 3: about like the thing you made.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, yeah, you answer questions and yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: always like be likable, be likable, like God. To be likable,
Speaker 1: you don't have to try. You are.
Speaker 3: You know, I was coming over here on my work
Speaker 3: over here. I was like, Julio, you gotta remember this
Speaker 3: time be funny. This time, you just gotta be this
Speaker 3: gotta be fine. I am always so I recessed to
Speaker 3: audience member often and I'm like, all these are funny
Speaker 3: and I'm enjoying it, and I'm like quietly like he
Speaker 3: and then I'm like, oh wait, no.
Speaker 1: Well you couldn't wait to talk at the top. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, and I have to be charming and engaging
Speaker 1: so that people will consume my product hashtag press press.
Speaker 3: Yeah, must be charming and engaging so that people consume
Speaker 3: my product. So to that point, I would hypothetically go
Speaker 3: to a wedding there.
Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say, to that point, i'd go
Speaker 1: to a theme park. I think, to the park. I
Speaker 1: love Christmas. I'll eat anything there love. Group Fitness was
Speaker 1: praised for my attitude celebrate it.
Speaker 2: Even you're describing our lives, you're describing what we what
Speaker 2: we have to put ourselves through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fitness. I will say, the only thing about this
Speaker 1: is why people consume your product. I know it. Well. Well,
Speaker 1: then I'll say, okay, so here's the thing. Here's the
Speaker 1: other side of the coin, though, I am so enthusiastic
Speaker 1: about so many things that when I'm about things, or
Speaker 1: if I'm negative about something, people are like whoa, or
Speaker 1: they like react to it weirdly. But then I don't know.
Speaker 1: The comment. Recently, I guess has been like that we
Speaker 1: are like too many things.
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, did you were you in a don't leave
Speaker 3: the table to you finish anything household?
Speaker 1: Actually, my parents would not let me get up and
Speaker 1: leave the table unless my dinner was finished.
Speaker 3: Yeah wow, yeah, see I was in a My mom
Speaker 3: would be like, if you don't want to eat something,
Speaker 3: don't eat it. Don't eat it, because if you ever
Speaker 3: do something that you don't want to do, it'll make
Speaker 3: you sick.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, that's actually very healthy.
Speaker 3: I like my whole childhood just white rice and saltines
Speaker 3: because I was like, I don't like color.
Speaker 1: Kela gives me a headache. White rice and saltines. Rice
Speaker 1: and saltines, please, I want to eat erasers. They looked
Speaker 1: so yummy. They do look real, yea, because you know
Speaker 1: what they look like, gum gum famously edible. But the
Speaker 1: big white ones, yeah, those those felt so good in
Speaker 1: the hand and it kind of. I just wanted to Yeah,
Speaker 1: when they were a little translucent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, which is your favorite?
Speaker 1: I do? I do.
Speaker 3: That's why I love tofu, just like open up a
Speaker 3: carton of tofu and eating it.
Speaker 1: It's like eating rice is great, getting talked about enough
Speaker 1: as being one of the great things.
Speaker 2: Can I make tofu for you guys for dinner and
Speaker 2: you guys don't have to and no one can say
Speaker 2: it's good?
Speaker 1: Are you good at making it? Like I've never heard
Speaker 1: you say, I'm really good at preparing tofu? Babe.
Speaker 2: I make a good mapo tofu, and I can make
Speaker 2: a good vegan version, and and you guys would both
Speaker 2: like it but not have to go through the whole
Speaker 2: sharade of saying, oh my god, this is so good.
Speaker 2: And I swear I will not ever ever once say
Speaker 2: oh it's I did my best in silence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, because that's our genuine friend, and he's not
Speaker 1: going to be like, oh, I'm upset because they didn't
Speaker 1: tell me how good the food was, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, not like that. It's not like that.
Speaker 1: I will say. There's one person whose food is restaurant quality,
Speaker 1: and it is Dave Mazzoni. His food is restaurant quality. Wow,
Speaker 1: what is Dave feast? He'll just like I remember one
Speaker 1: time we were there, like years ago, yes, very that
Speaker 1: like rich Italian food, Like we were good Bowen. Do
Speaker 1: you remember years ago when we were at we were
Speaker 1: doing some meeting for popular Lette at Dave's house and
Speaker 1: then like out of nowhere, we didn't even smell it cooking.
Speaker 1: He just comes down with like so much lasagna and
Speaker 1: like Canoulli's and like like it was just like it
Speaker 1: was just like there was so much happening and we
Speaker 1: were just like, oh my god, and it was just
Speaker 1: like excellent, but Italians when you came up, So Dave sucks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Italian food.
Speaker 3: It is my understanding that when it's done very well,
Speaker 3: people really like it.
Speaker 1: Oh what what are you not an Italian food fan? Oh? Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't need that. Not No, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: not really. A lot of it has egg, cheese and butter.
Speaker 1: What is the current pop culture that you're consuming? Like,
Speaker 1: for example, have you hit play on the like Billie
Speaker 1: Eilo show Them at all? I have not hit play
Speaker 1: on the Billie Eilis album at all. What is the
Speaker 1: current pop culture that I'm consuming by current you mean
Speaker 1: like active, right, yeah, like four to question Mark, Yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty four to question Mark. Like what's out right now?
Speaker 1: Like what is the thing that's happening? You were like,
Speaker 1: I want to engage in that? Like I feel like
Speaker 1: I have been engaging. I have been. I'm engaging in
Speaker 1: OMG fashion. I what else? What else? What else? Perfect name?
Speaker 1: OMG fashion, It is the perfect name. I'm trying to like.
Speaker 3: Really, anime is very daunting for me because there's so
Speaker 3: much of it, so I never really know where to start.
Speaker 3: But I have been watching the show Pluto, which I
Speaker 3: really have been enjoying it.
Speaker 2: It's daunting, but it's quick. You watch it in like
Speaker 2: a day or two, because not a lot of them
Speaker 2: do more than one or two seasons, unless it's like
Speaker 2: your huge show and James and your boyfriend knows all
Speaker 2: of the good ones too.
Speaker 1: He does, he does. But then like the suggestion list
Speaker 1: is so long.
Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, you should watch Assassination Classroom, Assassination Classroom,
Speaker 2: him how to be Assassins.
Speaker 1: But Okay, here's the thing I don't. I don't like bloody.
Speaker 1: It's not bloody. Can I tell you what the premise
Speaker 1: is any assassination in it? I think you're gonna like it. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: here's why. What's the truth? Well, here's the plot, and
Speaker 1: I'm okay, and I might put trip it. This is
Speaker 1: the plot.
Speaker 2: An alien with a big yellow head m hm and
Speaker 2: like two small eyes and a smiley face like mouth
Speaker 2: has blown up half of the moon and the world
Speaker 2: is like, oh my god, what's happening? And then the
Speaker 2: alien where's the rest of the moon. Well, yeah, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, the moon is gone? Like this is
Speaker 2: fucking up the grab like you know, gravity whatever, Okay,
Speaker 2: And then this alien goes down to Earth and takes
Speaker 2: over a school in Japan and becomes a teacher at.
Speaker 1: That school gets staffed.
Speaker 2: Well, he like takes over the school and becomes a
Speaker 2: staff member and staffs himself. As it were, the whole thing,
Speaker 2: the whole thing where parkt well, like, where's the like
Speaker 2: does teacher drag like dresses up like a teacher, but
Speaker 2: has like an alien face and head or whatever, and
Speaker 2: he's teaching a class full of students, like, has a
Speaker 2: class full of students.
Speaker 1: He goes, if one of you can.
Speaker 2: Kill me, the only way you can get the moon
Speaker 2: back is if one of you kills me, but like
Speaker 2: they all like try to kill him, but he always
Speaker 2: like thwarts them, and there's a reason why this all happens.
Speaker 2: And it's actually really well constructed story, Like I think
Speaker 2: you would both really like it.
Speaker 1: Assassination school. That's an assassination classroom. Classroom. Okay, sound qunchy row.
Speaker 1: I'm bookmarking that not only for washing and enjoying, but
Speaker 1: also because it reminds me of I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: which we'll say in a second. But first I want
Speaker 1: to ask both of you if you have heard about
Speaker 1: this movie that just premiered. It can called The Substance
Speaker 1: with Demi Moore and Margaret Qually. Tell us I've heard
Speaker 1: the buzz, but I have not seen the movie. So
Speaker 1: this is I guess it's like it's this movie that
Speaker 1: one best screenplay I can. It like got like one
Speaker 1: of the longer standing ovations, which like they go off
Speaker 1: with standing ovations. They at the end they're like, you know,
Speaker 1: just like really time them. Yes. Yeah. And Lily Gladstone,
Speaker 1: who Bowen is working with now, was on the can
Speaker 1: Jury and I'm dying to find out what the tea
Speaker 1: was about watching this movie and what it was like,
Speaker 1: because apparently it's a thriller, right, yes, it's like a
Speaker 1: horror thriller, but really it's body horror. So it stars
Speaker 1: Demi Moore as an aging actress. She's like an Academy
Speaker 1: Award winning actress. And her name, just to give you
Speaker 1: a sense of the tone, is Elizabeth Sparkle, so she
Speaker 1: plays Sparkle. She's a former Academy Award winning actress who
Speaker 1: now does like fitness videos. So it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: like Jane Fonda. She's up in years ish, like Hollywood
Speaker 1: has told her she's fucking ancient. She's really in her
Speaker 1: middle age. Like she essentially gets like replaced at her job,
Speaker 1: which is doing this fitness you know, video, because they're
Speaker 1: gonna get like a younger person. She is told that
Speaker 1: she can start taking this supplement or this injection or whatever.
Speaker 1: It is called the substance, and what it does is
Speaker 1: it literally allows yourselves to replicate so that another younger,
Speaker 1: better quote unquote version of you comes out of your
Speaker 1: spine splits and the younger and that's Margaret. So basically
Speaker 1: the rule is the you that's younger has to like
Speaker 1: sustain and take care of the older body for a
Speaker 1: week while you go live your life as the younger,
Speaker 1: more vibrant thing. Then after a week, the older you
Speaker 1: comes to consciousness and has to maintain the younger body.
Speaker 1: So basically it becomes this story about essentially yes, but
Speaker 1: it's like the younger version apparently starts really feeling herself
Speaker 1: because she's young, beautiful in the world. Is about a lie. Yes,
Speaker 1: value that I am a human legs and eyes, yes,
Speaker 1: and sort of just like sorry, like like becoming a
Speaker 1: star in the younger body, but then goes to the
Speaker 1: old body and she walks around the around the world
Speaker 1: and basically like everyone's like like whatever, treating her like
Speaker 1: I guess to me more, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And she is unable to see that she's still valid
Speaker 1: in her older body. So the younger version starts to
Speaker 1: slip in terms of taking care of the older one.
Speaker 1: And the big rule of the movie is to remember
Speaker 1: that they are one organism or else things will be catastrophic,
Speaker 1: like no spoilers because I don't know how what happens,
Speaker 1: but apparently I know. Also remarkable that you have not
Speaker 1: seen this movie, I know, fascinated by it, like I've
Speaker 1: read so much about it because I also feel like
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna sit through it, So
Speaker 1: I'm consuming a lot of you because it was to
Speaker 1: talk of the beast way, what do you mean you
Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna sit through because of what
Speaker 1: I'm going to say. Okay, I'm very squeamish too. And
Speaker 1: apparently the third act is the most intense graphic, sustained
Speaker 1: violent body horror like in cinema history since like The Fly,
Speaker 1: like in the late eighties with Jeff Goldbloom, like where
Speaker 1: his body essentially decomposes them, like because he turns into
Speaker 1: a fly essentially. So this movie was apparently had people
Speaker 1: like passing out and throwing up after watching it, but
Speaker 1: it was also very much in a while since we
Speaker 1: had those urban legends of ye people people like the movie.
Speaker 1: The last one in my memory was Passionate of the
Speaker 1: Christ and there was bloodletting. Oh my god, that's so funny.
Speaker 1: But apparently Demi Moore may even be up for an
Speaker 1: oscar because she is like apparently incredibly fearless and in
Speaker 1: the way that she acts this last act and also
Speaker 1: the fact that like she's confronting this thing that's been
Speaker 1: said about her for the majority of her career. She
Speaker 1: was you know, young people have been talking about her appearance,
Speaker 1: the way that she's you know, conceptualized in everyone's mind's eyes,
Speaker 1: like this idea of like cinematic perfection, and then that
Speaker 1: person got older, may have had worked done, et cetera.
Speaker 1: The entire like trajectory of her career has had this
Speaker 1: shadow of you know, the male gaze on it. And
Speaker 1: so for her to do this movie, I think she's
Speaker 1: getting a lot of like what apparently is well er
Speaker 1: in praise for it, and the movie won Best Screenplay
Speaker 1: at can because apparently it's just that bold. So that's
Speaker 1: like a Greta Gerwig jury right there. So I'm excited.
Speaker 1: What do you mean it's a Greta Garwig. Joe, she
Speaker 1: was the head of the jury.
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh oh, I thought you were saying it's
Speaker 3: a great of growing esque jury.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah, I was describing the vibe. Just for
Speaker 1: her to preside over that jury and like, you know,
Speaker 1: her to be as like renowned and talented writer as
Speaker 1: she is, and for her to give that best screenplay
Speaker 1: I think is you know, it's exciting. Wow, Greta like.
Speaker 2: Her vocabulary with like film history is like so wild.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, like, like I heard some of her feedback,
Speaker 2: like which was sharing thoughts. All of her quotes were
Speaker 2: like you know that it reminded me of the classical
Speaker 2: structures of it blah blah. But and I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, like you really do know it all? Like
Speaker 2: where does one learn? What would your master class be on?
Speaker 2: If you had a master class, what would it be on?
Speaker 1: Hmmm, fucking masturbating at the worst times of day? That
Speaker 1: would be my masterclass.
Speaker 3: What's the worst that we got the meme from this episode? Yeah,
Speaker 3: what's the worst time that I say, like right before
Speaker 3: they need you on set?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, no, no, no, I like like four four pm.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, no, that's pretty bad. I actually was
Speaker 1: ten minutes late to therapy because I like I had
Speaker 1: it at four and I like had to come at
Speaker 1: three fifteen pm, like something happened. I was like, I
Speaker 1: have to jack off. And then I got in the
Speaker 1: car and I was we had traffic because I have
Speaker 1: to go out the way to capacity and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: fuck this traffic. I'm like, no, fuck you because you
Speaker 1: had to jack off at three fifteen I do agree.
Speaker 1: It is the worst time. What was the name that
Speaker 1: I gave you? What's the name?
Speaker 3: Because dustin dustin Dallas, that's in Dallas. Move right there.
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, and I'm late. I had
Speaker 1: to come. This is this is something I will speaking
Speaker 1: of during the day, sexual behavior. I won't say who
Speaker 1: or why or what. But I was at one of
Speaker 1: those group fitness classes during the day a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and the instructor was so like hot and encouraging,
Speaker 1: and so it was in changing all of it, just
Speaker 1: like the best version of what that lesson is where
Speaker 1: I went home, got on grinder and message you went
Speaker 1: to cerebro in the middle of them in the middle
Speaker 1: of the day. I never do that. From now, from
Speaker 1: someone else, from someone else, very much about him. From
Speaker 1: it was, I must find the ideal surrogate, exactly the
Speaker 1: substance to fulfill my fantasy.
Speaker 3: I must find I must find the boy, and if not,
Speaker 3: a surrogate will have to do.
Speaker 1: A surrogate, did it? Or was that your your grinder name?
Speaker 1: I must find the boy, find the boy, or else
Speaker 1: a surrogate will have to do. And then I had
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, surrogates come forward, not a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think the surrogate you think you'll
Speaker 1: see the story get again? Actually? Yeah, this guy fucking
Speaker 1: really it was great. I actually was. It made me realize, like, huh,
Speaker 1: maybe sex during the day is the move. Oh I
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, same, I think it's great. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just there's something about having sex
Speaker 1: in the daylight.
Speaker 2: Oh the lighting and the lighting is great. The reason
Speaker 2: I say four thirty is you come and then if
Speaker 2: you get lucky later on in the night, then you're like,
Speaker 2: oh I I already a oh, I already ate, you know,
Speaker 2: and then it's like oh and then you kind of
Speaker 2: get some performing anxiety around that.
Speaker 1: What a busy life. I think that's why I liked
Speaker 1: the daytime fuck because it was like, and now I
Speaker 1: don't have to even encounter the thing at night because
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for it to be disappointed at night,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I did that during
Speaker 1: the day and it was it went really well, so
Speaker 1: I don't have to feel bad about it later. Disappointed
Speaker 1: at Night another great title for something disappointed at night.
Speaker 1: For this episode, Disappointed at night, Disappointed at Night. That's beautiful.
Speaker 1: I think it's my fourth time on Lost Culture, says,
Speaker 1: my fourth time on Lost Culture. Sys. Is it the
Speaker 1: fourth time or is it the third time? Fourth? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, canonically it's gonna be fourth.
Speaker 1: I guess because you were on once with Anna. You
Speaker 1: were on once. I member your first episode was iconically
Speaker 1: called yes dot dot Dot because we talked about I
Speaker 1: don't think that was my first episode. That was not
Speaker 1: your first episode. Really, I think this is fourth. I
Speaker 1: think this is fourth. Yeah, well it's fourth, no matter what. Okay,
Speaker 1: my fourth episode of Last Culture, my fourth episode? Should
Speaker 1: we do I don't think so, honey, Yes, oh god,
Speaker 1: I told me, okay, yeah, totally forgot this fourth. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is Last Culture reached us, this big segment.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. We do one minute, you know,
Speaker 1: t whirl on something that's not so great, and the
Speaker 1: aliens of it all actually reminded me. I woke up
Speaker 1: on the conspiracy side of the bed this morning and
Speaker 1: I've my eyes have been open to something and I
Speaker 1: really have to I have to alert the world. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: As time starts now. I don't think so, honey, aliens existing.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it is if you don't think.
Speaker 1: My dad sent me a drone like light show. It
Speaker 1: was like a Star Wars droned light show and I
Speaker 1: was like, huh, you know what. This reminds me of
Speaker 1: those unidentified flying objects that are all around that no
Speaker 1: one can explain. It's like, I'm sorry, but things moving
Speaker 1: on naturally in the sky, they're drones. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: who has more money than even NASA. Elon Musk SpaceX
Speaker 1: is the reason why there are quote unquote aliens. There
Speaker 1: are no aliens. What they're trying to do and this
Speaker 1: is Elon Musk and I'm saying this, and there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a bounty on my head after I say this.
Speaker 1: I'm bravely saying it allows culture. Elon Musk wants us
Speaker 1: to believe that there are aliens so that he can
Speaker 1: start a war. We can have a comagenemy, okay, because
Speaker 1: there's nothing more powerful than a you creating your own army.
Speaker 1: He wants to basically convince us all there are alians
Speaker 1: so that we fear the external and he will control
Speaker 1: us this way. I don't think so honey, and that's
Speaker 1: one minute. Oh my god, that's how I feel. I
Speaker 1: don't think there are aliens.
Speaker 2: I think it's SpaceX, your most Mary and Williamson coded thing.
Speaker 1: Yet Oh I say that, I I I go anytime
Speaker 1: someone says Mary and Williamson. Does anyone feel that I'm
Speaker 1: Does anyone feel I'm right?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you're right, but I do.
Speaker 3: I do think that that is it's compelling.
Speaker 1: Like I watched this drone show and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: like a drone show. It was like a Star Wars
Speaker 1: speed like this guy. Yeah, Like it's it's like essentially
Speaker 1: replacing fireworks shows, so you're gonna see less and less
Speaker 1: fireworks shows as times. It's like, it's Sky Entertainment.
Speaker 3: It's got okay another okay, that is the name of
Speaker 3: your LC.
Speaker 1: Sky Entertainment. If it wasn't Basic Instinks, Inc. It would
Speaker 1: be Sky Entertainment. Isn't that a great name? Maybe my
Speaker 1: last name is Sky. Maybe I'm Dustin Sky.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh, Dustin Sky's good. So it's like synch or
Speaker 3: nice swimming but with robots, Julio, That's exactly what that is.
Speaker 1: Kind of cute. It is programmed Sky entertainment in the
Speaker 1: sky and basically they can control to do anything. And
Speaker 1: also then you don't have like the environmental issue of
Speaker 1: like the fireworks every single night, I guess because you're
Speaker 1: watching robots move around in the sky so basically, and
Speaker 1: they can do things that fireworks can't, Like they can
Speaker 1: create these designs and these lettering in the sky. Like
Speaker 1: what you can see they're capable of is like mind blowing.
Speaker 1: And I'm watching it and I'm like, I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: who is out there still saying that there are aircrafts
Speaker 1: that move in ways that things can't move them, like
Speaker 1: there are drones in the sky that can do anything.
Speaker 1: Like why are we following this train of logic? I
Speaker 1: see your plant. It's like this helicopter went backwards and
Speaker 1: they don't do that. I have news for you. Yes
Speaker 1: they do when they're not helicopters, they're drone.
Speaker 2: But Matt, how do you explain like pre elon Musk,
Speaker 2: like this was a phenomenon?
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think it was. Oh, I don't think
Speaker 1: it was the US. Yes, people always said UFO sightings,
Speaker 1: but none of them could ever be substantiated. Now, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we have quote unquote substantiated, like but classified.
Speaker 2: A lot of these documents not we I just mean
Speaker 2: the government is they ask you, they.
Speaker 1: Ask you to co sign. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like any
Speaker 1: bone signature. Well Bowen is Illuminati. I'm Illuminati.
Speaker 2: But like I feel like this is this is slowly
Speaker 2: coming to the surface. But I respect and I agree
Speaker 2: with Julia.
Speaker 1: This is compelling. I don't know that I'm following you completely.
Speaker 1: This is all you need to know any time you
Speaker 1: see something in the sky that's moving in like an
Speaker 1: unidentifiable pattern or like an unnatural way, the way that
Speaker 1: quote unquote birds don't move or quote unquote you know,
Speaker 1: aircrafts don't move. It's like you should just watch a
Speaker 1: Star Wars Drone show. Just watch it and then you'll
Speaker 1: understand that things very much do move like that.
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm sorry when you say Star Wars Drone show, Yes,
Speaker 3: I do mean Disney if that's your question. Oh so
Speaker 3: this is at Disney very much so. And what makes
Speaker 3: it a Star Wars Drone show. It's it like they
Speaker 3: like form Princess Leah's face.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna show you on this, okay, because it's
Speaker 1: literally unbelievable. My dad send it to like he does
Speaker 1: all the time. So can you see this now? Look,
Speaker 1: Look that's a drone, that's not a firework that's supposed
Speaker 1: to mimic the two sons of Tachuine. And you'll see
Speaker 1: they're starting to drift slowly down as if the sun
Speaker 1: is setting. Okay, and now they're disappeared. Now see that
Speaker 1: they've disappeared. And now look what happensarngement. They've arranged in
Speaker 1: seconds to create this death start in the sky and
Speaker 1: the death star is slightly rotating. So what I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: if we are able to create this in the sky
Speaker 1: for entertainment, why would we think that Elon Musk and
Speaker 1: SpaceX or Bezos or whatever the fuck whatever is going on,
Speaker 1: whoever has the amount of money that can do this
Speaker 1: in the sky would not try to control human ideology
Speaker 1: and fear as it relates to the unknown. Fear is
Speaker 1: a controller. And I feel that this is what's happening
Speaker 1: in a major way. And I think that sheeple think
Speaker 1: it's aliens, but there are no aliens. Wo. I no,
Speaker 1: again again, I think it's very compelling. I'm compelling. I'll
Speaker 1: look into it. I'll look into it, you know, I
Speaker 1: was on I was on mushrooms the other day and
Speaker 1: I was with Henri Koperski and he said, you're making
Speaker 1: a really good point. And I pointed at him and
Speaker 1: looked in his eyes and said, I am very compelling.
Speaker 1: I am very compelling. I am very compelling. And he
Speaker 1: couldn't help but agree. You always were. You always were,
Speaker 1: he always was. Just know that Elon Musk is going
Speaker 1: to assassinate me. Now this part of the episode is
Speaker 1: gonna be seriously not there anymore. No, I'm going to
Speaker 1: be the only one who knows the truth that the
Speaker 1: both of you were in cahoots with SpaceX.
Speaker 3: Has anyone else's algorithm been feeding AI images of Elon
Speaker 3: Musk and Suckerberg?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, there's a lot of There's a lot of
Speaker 2: els like it's like Elon Mark Zuckerberg like being a couple.
Speaker 3: It's like the wholy a very believable couple. I would say,
Speaker 3: I'm like, yoh, yeah, they're a tea.
Speaker 2: It's like when people were doing the Trump putin gay
Speaker 2: love thing, and it's like now they're doing that with
Speaker 2: but with new AI technology, it's like that same sort
Speaker 2: of like.
Speaker 1: Goof, we have unlocked human potential. Oh honestly, with AI,
Speaker 1: we've officially gone too far. You want to know why
Speaker 1: because on this new season of the Circle, one of
Speaker 1: the people competing is just full on AI, and Michelle
Speaker 1: Buteau is narrating it being like and the producers are not.
Speaker 1: They have no idea what this AI is going to do,
Speaker 1: and it's just an AI. It's learning the game, it
Speaker 1: is learning the social dynamics, and it's doing an incredible
Speaker 1: job so far. I've only watched one and a half episodes,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I literally was like sitting here like
Speaker 1: watching it, and I'm thinking to myself, like, at what
Speaker 1: point is the AI just gonna learn to take over
Speaker 1: the show? Like I just the AI thing isly and
Speaker 1: now we're having fun with it on Netflix's The Circle.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, we've already sort of like
Speaker 1: get an AI host on the view. Honestly, we're really close. Like,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be fun if one of the hosts was AI?
Speaker 1: Would it have come telling things to say? You've already
Speaker 1: asked a question and you don't have to pay that host, right,
Speaker 1: you don't have to pay it? Can't believe it, Like
Speaker 1: if they're basically saying like, oh, like what if this
Speaker 1: AI like wins the circle, what then it's doing a
Speaker 1: really good job. It's better at social stuff than humans.
Speaker 1: I don't know what is the circle? Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: game show.
Speaker 2: It's like a game show where everyone is locked in
Speaker 2: their own rooms and they only communicate through this like
Speaker 2: social media platform and then people have to like it's
Speaker 2: as if like influencers was gamified, like the whole concept
Speaker 2: of like being likable on the Internet was like gamified
Speaker 2: into like a Survivor slash like Big Brothers style of
Speaker 2: like eliminating people. It's fun, it's really like it becomes
Speaker 2: very compelling. It is like a little dystopic, and it
Speaker 2: is like kind of simplifying over simplifying what social media is.
Speaker 2: But it's fun to watch. But I'm gonna watch I
Speaker 2: haven't watched it in a while. I'm gonna watch this one.
Speaker 1: It's just interesting because like they're all in their own room.
Speaker 1: They all have these avatars and that's how they communicate,
Speaker 1: and some of the real humans that are being themselves
Speaker 1: are communicating and you see the other people sort of
Speaker 1: like digest the way that they've said hello, and they're
Speaker 1: like hmm, that person sounds really wooden, and I bet
Speaker 1: that person's a catfish because a lot of them are catfish.
Speaker 1: That's like part of the game. And they're fully real
Speaker 1: human beings expressing themselves normally. And then this AI comes
Speaker 1: in aware of the fact that they need to have
Speaker 1: more of a personality, so they say that accident and wow,
Speaker 1: So they say things like a little bit offbeat in
Speaker 1: it off like else on when they meet in or whatever. Yes,
Speaker 1: And basically the AI has chosen its avatar and its personality,
Speaker 1: and it's like age and like it's a guy. It's
Speaker 1: like a white guy in its mid twenties. It looks
Speaker 1: like cute but not handsome, like non threatening holding a
Speaker 1: cute dog. And the AI is like studies have sown
Speaker 1: that's seventy percent of photos with dogs like do better,
Speaker 1: Like you automatically are a more likable person. And it's
Speaker 1: like working. You see the other people the contestants being
Speaker 1: like that is that dog? I know I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: along with Adam.
Speaker 3: There's I guess like there's some magazine or something that
Speaker 3: does like videos of like during Bress junkets. The one
Speaker 3: I saw a clip of was Chris Hemsworth and Nannie
Speaker 3: Taylor joy like playing with puppies, and there's something so
Speaker 3: like dark and primal about that.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: I mean like, here are these two beautiful blonde people
Speaker 3: playing with dogs.
Speaker 1: Enjoy it, eat it, and it is widely enjoyed. Eat this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's some content. It's like woof to say nothing of
Speaker 1: the dogs. But woof, woof? Why am I saying it? Like? Woof?
Speaker 1: You find out I'm Ai. I think I'm the least
Speaker 1: Ai out of all of us to be honest, refreshingly human.
Speaker 1: Bowen Yang Ai, I am Ai af Well, let's find
Speaker 1: out what Ai has to say. Bowen Yang, do you
Speaker 1: have an I don't think so, honey, I do.
Speaker 2: It's very, very stupid, it's not, but I think people
Speaker 2: will relate.
Speaker 1: This is Bowen Yang's relatable. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: His time starts now. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 2: Cutting up a bell pepper there is no agreed upon
Speaker 2: way to slice bell pepper, and we're all this is
Speaker 2: why language and communication is broken down across the world.
Speaker 2: It's not social media. It's because we have not settled
Speaker 2: on a way to chop up bell pepper in our
Speaker 2: salads in our soups, in our stews and our snacks.
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, oh, you gotta cut around the stem, or
Speaker 2: oh you gotta like get the white like pity stuff out.
Speaker 1: You gotta get like the dirty rounded part of it
Speaker 1: has to be straight strips.
Speaker 2: No, we have to agree upon one way to cut
Speaker 2: bell pepper otherwise this is the Tower of Babel all
Speaker 2: over again. If we can't agree on how to do
Speaker 2: this one simple thing, then what hope do we have
Speaker 2: as a civilization? What hope do we have for society?
Speaker 2: For the way that why are we growing these damn
Speaker 2: vegetables in the first place if we're not even going
Speaker 2: to agree on how to use them. It's not about
Speaker 2: personal preference. It's about making sure there's a standard way
Speaker 2: and a way that sort of encourages equality.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. I was going to say, it's
Speaker 1: like the Tower of Babel all over again.
Speaker 3: We must find a way of cutting the pepper that
Speaker 3: encourage equality.
Speaker 1: Equality and community that was really important. There's no community
Speaker 1: around bell peppers. Well, I will say, in terms of
Speaker 1: the stem, you definitely do have to cut around the stem.
Speaker 1: And I think that the rule of thumb with bell
Speaker 1: peppers is you just have to do a little bit
Speaker 1: more work. You have to dice them more than you think.
Speaker 1: But it's worth it. It is worth it.
Speaker 2: I love Bell Pepper, Oh certainly, Julia. What do you
Speaker 2: think as a vegan? How do you feel about bell Pepper?
Speaker 2: I think they're very important.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about it? I think they're very important. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you love the question. You love doing a.
Speaker 3: Very leading question. How do you feel about it? I
Speaker 3: think it's very important. How do you feel about representation?
Speaker 1: I think it's about he's gonna still say that no matter.
Speaker 1: How are you like? I know, I know talk about
Speaker 1: bell peppers? I uh me. Bell peppers are neither a
Speaker 1: plasma R minus. They're like iceberg lettuce. To me, they're
Speaker 1: like but iceberg lettice is no nutritional value. If it's there,
Speaker 1: I'll have it. I'll never miss it. What's your like
Speaker 1: if you had to make like sort of like your
Speaker 1: little vegan lunch, what is it? I think my favorite food? Well, sushi?
Speaker 1: What you like sushi? Sushi? Oh? Sushi?
Speaker 3: No, I mean I do like meals that are contained,
Speaker 3: So sushi is very good. A burrito, I think is
Speaker 3: really good because it's a capsule of food.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by contained, you mean like, actually, the food
Speaker 1: keeps itself together.
Speaker 3: The food keeps itself together. Yes, I don't need you
Speaker 3: on raveling in front of me.
Speaker 1: Right, got it? Got it? I got I got it?
Speaker 1: Got Yeah. So you go to Chipotle, let's just say
Speaker 1: you're certainly not gonna get like, no, I don't know bowl. Well,
Speaker 1: but you wouldn't get a breata bowl. If I hypothetically
Speaker 1: had to go to a Chipotle, I would not get
Speaker 1: a reata bowl. Right.
Speaker 2: Is a taco self contained that unravels in front of you?
Speaker 1: Very often a taco's needy, Right, A taco needs to
Speaker 1: be helped, so needy, Oh my god, needs to be
Speaker 1: held or else it's nothing. Yeah, you're right. Sushi. Sushi
Speaker 1: needs nothing from you. It's so true. It's so true.
Speaker 1: Sushi needs nothing from you just to enjoy it. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there thinking that you
Speaker 1: can't eat too much sushi. I have to say, last
Speaker 1: time I found out that wasn't true. You can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I woke up this morning and I felt like garbage,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what happened? Too much? Then I realized, Well,
Speaker 1: because a lot of people are talking about how they
Speaker 1: don't think you can eat too much of it. Where
Speaker 1: do you hear No, Matty, I don't really remember how
Speaker 1: where I heard it, but it's out there.
Speaker 2: But the sushi doesn't need anything from you, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. That still doesn't change the fact that
Speaker 2: sushi does not ask anything of you, and it's on
Speaker 2: you that you ate so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a theory. I understand what you're saying. I'm
Speaker 1: not really following. But is that what I said to
Speaker 1: you about the drugs? Yeah? I think it's compelling. I
Speaker 1: don't really understand what you're saying. But wow, that's not
Speaker 1: how I said it. Okay, Well, well we'll talk about
Speaker 1: this offline. Okay, Julio, are you ready to do I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Yeah. And I'm actually very proud
Speaker 1: of it because I just thought about it. Okay. I
Speaker 1: did not prepare this is This is Julio Torres. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: The barricade around the portal are you familiar with Are
Speaker 1: you familiar with the portal? No, it's the circular portal
Speaker 1: in New York. It's like a big screen with a
Speaker 1: live feed between Manhattan and I want to say Dublin.
Speaker 1: And the whole thing is that like tourists in both
Speaker 1: cities can just like wave at each other. There's a
Speaker 1: thirty seconds where is it? I want to say it's
Speaker 1: Madison Square Park.
Speaker 3: Maybe this is a barricade and there is a barricade
Speaker 3: around the portal guarding the portal because too many people
Speaker 3: were exposing themselves in both countries. Fifteen seconds or just
Speaker 3: showing foul things to each other. But frankly, if you
Speaker 3: don't trust the public with public art, we have failed
Speaker 3: as a society.
Speaker 1: Five seconds. If public art.
Speaker 3: Is too delicate or begs itself to be used in
Speaker 3: a specific way, then you are you are condescending to
Speaker 3: the audience and we don't need it.
Speaker 1: One minute. That's beautiful. That was really not only was
Speaker 1: it beautiful to hear you say, I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: the barricade around the portal, but also the facts were
Speaker 1: there too. If public art can't be public, we've failed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: If public art can't be public, we have failed. Release
Speaker 1: the portal, open the portal, drop the barricade to the portal,
Speaker 1: drop the barricade to the portal. At once if I
Speaker 1: were mayor.
Speaker 3: If I were mayor, and I will be someday, that
Speaker 3: is the first thing I'll do. I will say, drop
Speaker 3: the barricade to the portal. Everyone must have access to
Speaker 3: the portal. That would be my first tweet as mayor.
Speaker 3: You're not going to be mayor, Yes I will be.
Speaker 1: No, you have a sarriving Hollywood career, whether you like
Speaker 1: it or not. Look look at Reagan, Look at Reagan.
Speaker 1: Look at Schwartzenegger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at Schwartzenegger. I'll do it now. The portal
Speaker 2: is beautiful. I've just looked up.
Speaker 1: I've never seen this in the city neither. Well, it's flopping.
Speaker 1: It's giving the vessel all over again. The vessels so sad.
Speaker 1: The vessels just like, have.
Speaker 3: I shown you my collection of guys on Tinder that
Speaker 3: have pictures with the vessel?
Speaker 1: Yes, I would love to see it. A lot of
Speaker 1: gay guys, exclusively gay guys that the people use them
Speaker 1: are the only ones I can see on Tinder. They
Speaker 1: won't let me see anything else. The vessel is so
Speaker 1: so like streng guy stand like, can you believe where
Speaker 1: I am? I'm a man of the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I have a vessel. There's any man,
Speaker 2: Marcus plus to hear. Yes, I have something I want
Speaker 2: to bring to the group.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. There are pop stars, let's just say pop stars,
Speaker 1: or they're just artists that are either portals or mirrors.
Speaker 3: M that is beautiful. That is absolutely beautiful. And I
Speaker 3: can tell you who's a portal and who's a mirror.
Speaker 1: Beyonce's a portal. Taylor Swift is a mirror. There you go.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Beyonce transports you somewhere, brings you
Speaker 1: somewhere into a new experience. Taylor Swift is about relatability,
Speaker 1: is about reflecting the audience back at them. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do think that there is a case to be
Speaker 1: made for Katy Perry is mirror. Katy Perry is a mirror.
Speaker 1: Katy Perry's music exists to make you feel a certain way,
Speaker 1: whereas you listen to like some of these other artists
Speaker 1: and it's like this exists mostly as an artistic expression. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that is very beautiful, and I think there is We
Speaker 1: need to get you a doctor. I'm going to say
Speaker 1: there's validity in both. Of course, there's validity in both.
Speaker 1: One is not better than the other, No of course,
Speaker 1: I do think that when people were talking about, like,
Speaker 1: oh what was better, like the Renaissance tour or the aerostour,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I think I can't pinpoint why
Speaker 1: they're not equally different and valid because one was a
Speaker 1: mirror experience and one was a portal experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yes, I think there's definitely room for both.
Speaker 3: I think mirrors comfort us and portals propel us.
Speaker 1: Yes, and they're both necessary. That's really good. But sometimes
Speaker 1: mirrors can scare us the most soaken portal portal sometimes
Speaker 1: you need, and sometimes dot dot dot mirrors can scare
Speaker 1: us through. That's a very like Desperate Housewives absolutely eaty
Speaker 1: punches the medicine cabinet mirrors. We use them to take
Speaker 1: a look before we leave the house, to check out
Speaker 1: husband's tie, before he leaves the house, to inspect some
Speaker 1: pescima scara in the corner of our eye. Yes, mirrors
Speaker 1: comfort us, assuring us of our own image. But what
Speaker 1: if a mirror showed us what was never there? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm let me tell you something. I am
Speaker 1: rewatching Desperate Housewives now, Oh my god, I want to
Speaker 1: do it. Where's Alfred Woodard? She's working? But I want
Speaker 1: to see. I would imagine books somewhere. Yeah, no, she
Speaker 1: is I checked Betty apple White. Betty apple White, what
Speaker 1: a name? Well, Julio, this is your fourth time on
Speaker 1: last coach. This is it.
Speaker 2: We're so grateful. This is it, This is it no more,
Speaker 2: this is me now, this is Did you watch that?
Speaker 1: Yes? I did last night? You actually did? I did
Speaker 1: last night? What did you think? We just need your abridge?
Speaker 1: Take on? This is me now compelling? Okay, although hold on.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave everybody on this. I can't tell if
Speaker 2: Jalo is a portal or a mirror.
Speaker 1: She's a mirror. Jayla is a mirror, and this is
Speaker 1: meat now aspired to be a portal, Yes, of course.
Speaker 1: But I don't myself in Jlo, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: what you don't do. It's not for you to see
Speaker 1: yourself and Jlo. But if you do see yourself in Jlo,
Speaker 1: you really you really see yourself in Jalo? Yeah? Right, Okay.
Speaker 1: It's the thing of like, are you a fragrance or
Speaker 1: viting in water? What? You know? What I mean? It's
Speaker 1: that thing. Are you Sarahn? Okay? Stomping to door? Are
Speaker 1: you Jennifer water Y? I see. Yeah, amazing, we need both.
Speaker 1: Zendia is both interesting. I don't think Zendaya is vitamin water,
Speaker 1: is she? I think Zendia is like all of it
Speaker 1: in her heart is the Disney girl, and she kind
Speaker 1: of can't. She'll never like totally escape that, no matter
Speaker 1: how artistically and critically successful she is, Like she'll always
Speaker 1: be a little bit like one second away from like Sketchers,
Speaker 1: it's the s. What is that that you just said?
Speaker 1: Skechers is the S. Yeah, that's sort of a shoe
Speaker 1: campaign for doing a Sketcher's commercial. Yeah, got it. That's interesting,
Speaker 1: Like we haven't escaped the world where it's like zendeiya
Speaker 1: for spearmint gum, you know what I mean? Like, probably
Speaker 1: not soon.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, here's what I'll say is I did not
Speaker 3: know she was a Disney star.
Speaker 1: She has shake it out. Doesn't that change things a
Speaker 1: little bit? Well no, but I'm saying is I was
Speaker 1: not seeing her through that lens and it was perfectly satisfied.
Speaker 1: She's a sended that for sure. Yeah, she's the most
Speaker 1: crossover mirror portal person we have currently. M Wow. Interesting
Speaker 1: she's a mirror portal. She's a mere mirror portal. She's
Speaker 1: what Lana del Rey would call glass spaceship.
Speaker 2: I love that and Lana's a portal through and through, Yes, yeah, portal. Well,
Speaker 2: much to discuss with infinite people when we come back,
Speaker 2: come back, our eight of La.
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