1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Forties and free Agents. 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: You're a regular podcast about the free agent market and 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: NFL Draft. 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: I am Greg Rosenthal. 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: And I am with Daniel Jeremiah for the first time 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: during this regular season, DJ, We're going to be hitting 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: the listeners each and every week leading into free agency, 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: leading into the draft starting in January, but the fans 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: demanded that we stop by. We're going to do it 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: quarterly during the regular season, kind of look back at 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: at how last year's draft, how the free agency crop 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: is doing right now. How are you enjoying your season 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: without me? 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: I miss you. I'll be honest with you, I do 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: miss you. But this is like you're like the dermatologist. 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: I just need to check in every now and then 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: to make sure everything's okay. You know. That's that's where 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: I am. But I'm glad I'm going to have to 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: wait till the off season because it's fun. It's you know, 20 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: you don't just you know, go back and look at 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: it as a whole, and it's more fun when you 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: kind of check in at the quarter marks and kind 23 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: of see and we can monitor the progress for some 24 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: of these guys. Who's who's kind of building up from 25 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: a free agency standpoint, and then in a rookie standpoint, 26 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 3: and who's cooling off as we go to the year. 27 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: It'll be fun to follow it. 28 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to doing this and it's important too, 29 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: you know. I'm sure your evaluations are a little more 30 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: meaningful than mine. People will remember them, and you got 31 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: to work on your process. I don't know if anyone's 32 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: really tracking my free agency one on one to see 33 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: what I did well and what I didn't, But this 34 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: is going to be a fun exercise. So we thought 35 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: we'd just go through each position, go position by position, 36 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: pick out some of the highlights. Maybe who's been a 37 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: good bargain in terms of a draft pick or a 38 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: good signing in terms of a free agent. 39 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: Why don't you get us going? 40 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm just kind of looking at guys 41 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: who've played and who've been kind of the top guys, 42 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: and maybe you know, through some of these positions, they 43 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: don't have it for all of them because they just 44 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: haven't been some guys that have played some of them. 45 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: I'll give you a guy who's been a little underwhelming. 46 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: But the let's start with the quarterback position, Gregan, If 47 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: we're looking at the draft and only really two guys 48 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: talk talk about cam Ward. It's been a slog. We 49 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: talked about it in the you know, after the draft 50 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: and in the run up to the season. It was 51 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: going to be hard for him with what they had 52 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: around him. They're not good, you know, really in any 53 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: department at this point in time. So because of that, 54 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: you're seeing a ton of sacks and he's taking seventeen sacks. 55 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: The frustration is starting to bubble up. You've seen that 56 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: in some of his comments after last week's game. I 57 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: still believe in his ability. It's going to require patience 58 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: and they're going to need to fill a lot of 59 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: holes on this roster. I don't know if I've learned 60 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: anything about cam Ward what it was what I'm getting 61 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 3: at here as a number one overall pick, and maybe 62 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: in the world's defense, there's a reason why he was 63 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: the least talked about over number one overall pick, because 64 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: the world realized what a what a creddy group in situation. 65 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: He was going into that press conference what you're alluding 66 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: to when he said, if we're keeping it a buck, 67 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: we asked, which is a classic all time quarterback quote. 68 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 2: I I watched the whole thing, and one thing I 69 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: feel differently about just because I didn't know enough about, 70 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,559 Speaker 2: Like I'm actually impressed about how he's addressing their difficulties. 71 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: And when I watch him on a week to week besis, 72 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: he does things that wow you every single week, and 73 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: I think he's doing as well as you could possibly 74 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: expect in a really bad situation. Their offensive line has 75 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: not played well. He just doesn't have the weapons around him. 76 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: The guys they brought in, for instance as a free 77 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: agent Tyler Lockett no production whatsoever. So I kind of 78 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: like where he is as a leader. The problem is, 79 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 2: I don't know if that coaching staff is going to 80 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: be there. 81 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: You feel like it, it does not feel like it 82 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: one of the one I'll hit quickly. I was there 83 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: for Jackson darts first start and looked one of those 84 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: things where if you box score scout and look at it, 85 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: like I even throw for that many yards. He got 86 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: sacked a bunch of times, but I'm telling you, the 87 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: first thing you notice is when he jogged onto the field, 88 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: it lit up the whole stadium. He brought a ton 89 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: of energy and a ton of juice and inspired not 90 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: only the stadium but his teammates. He ran the ball 91 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: extremely well, even after he got nicked up. So the 92 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: toughs in the athleticism was there some huge third downs, 93 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: you know, with his arm and with his legs being 94 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: able to go get some of those. So they're not 95 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: protecting him with kid gloves as you would think in 96 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: your first overall start. And you know, Chargers gave him 97 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: a couple of gifts. They ended up with a couple 98 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: of possessions starting inside the Chargers ten. But they cashed it. 99 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: They cashed the chips and he did a really nice job. 100 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: And I think it's exciting. And I always go back 101 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: to what we say, what we said, I've tried to 102 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: put you on this line of thinking, which is the 103 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 3: cardinal sin is to be bad and boring. Don't be both. 104 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: And now the Giants are exciting. They're not a boring team. 105 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: And unfortunately Neighbors went down. But Jackson Dart's gonna bring 106 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: some fun to that, to that franchise. That's a good thing. 107 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a timto t Bowie and kind of 108 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,559 Speaker 2: game for him at least in terms of the box score, 109 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: and like the way that they won it. But obviously 110 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: I think he's going to have more skills throwing the 111 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: ball than TB Man. 112 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: You were. 113 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: You were kind of the bad luck charm this weekend. 114 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: Not to not to pick on you. You're at the 115 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: Riders up on Saturday, and then tough Davis. 116 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: So I we'll explain that. So as you know of 117 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: a man of faith. And I was on the plane 118 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: heading over to New York and I said, Lord, I 119 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: would love for the US Ryder Cup team to win, 120 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: and I would love for the Padres to beat the Cubs. 121 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 3: And he said, I can only give you one. And 122 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: so I apologize to all the American golf fans out there. 123 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know you had that sort of a direct line. 124 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: Another quarterback who also as a man of faith, Russell Wilson. 125 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: Just since you're talking to Jackson Dark. 126 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: Transitioning to the free agents, if you think about how 127 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: this free agent, you know, quarterback market went, and you think, well, 128 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: the Steelers kind of chose Fields over Aaron Rodgers initially 129 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: like they supposedly wanted him. But then Aaron Rodgers ends 130 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: up obviously with Pittsburgh because Fields gets paid more by 131 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: the Jets. And then Russell Wilson was kind of the 132 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: last in that little group, he ends up going to 133 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: New York. I never bought the argument, and we talked 134 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: about this on the show, that he was going to 135 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: be sort of upgrade even on what they had a 136 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: year ago. That proved to be true, and then Dark 137 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: gets in there. Initially, I think the Steelers are ultimately 138 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: happy with Aaron Rodgers, even if he's not a top 139 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: level quarterback, and Justin Fields has kind of been what 140 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: you expected, some ups and some downs. I will point out, 141 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: though DJ and I will eat some humble pie that the. 142 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 3: Let's go to the Pacific Northwest ladies and gentlemen. 143 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: So I'm taping this in London. 144 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: That's the dedication I have for forties and free agents. 145 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: I'm at talkSPORT too, where I'll be calling the game 146 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: by the way, like Daniel Jeremiah on Sunday game over 147 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: in London. So I woke up Friday morning to watch 148 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: that Seahawks game and it was just another great Sam 149 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: Darnold performance. He's given them everything that they want. They're 150 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: not putting too much on his plate. But I also 151 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: won't pretend that he's not making at least four to 152 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: five high level plays each week. So he's really cut 153 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: down on the mistakes and he's made some wow plays 154 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: without needing to throw twenty five to thirty times a 155 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: game because they have such a good defense that has 156 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: really worked out for them. 157 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 3: He's been excellent to me. I was I was watching 158 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: Bears tape the other day and I brought this up 159 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: with somebody. I said, this sounds interesting. I guess it 160 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: would be the word I would use, But I would 161 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: have Caleb watch Sam because some of the Sam issues 162 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: that he had when he was really young in the 163 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: NFL was he was too frenetic, it was too fast, 164 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: and then now you look at there's a poison, a calm, 165 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: and a quietness to him, like especially from his lower body, 166 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: he kind of just gets relaxed, gets his cleats in 167 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: the ground, He's comfortable, and it's made him more accurate 168 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: with that. I think Caleb could learn a lot from Sam, 169 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: which is pretty incredible that Sam from where he was 170 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago with somebody, I would recommend 171 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: his teaching tape for a young quarterback who's been on 172 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: a little bit of a roller coaster ride. The The 173 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: other thing I was gonna give you, just because you 174 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: mentioned you're going to be calling the game. I'm thinking 175 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: you can take advantage of this because this will be 176 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: on in Europe, right, this will be on Uh it's 177 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: not an American broadcast, correct, am I? Right? 178 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 179 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's you could get it on YouTube 180 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: if you're a big fan, but you. 181 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: Can use you can recycle all of the great American 182 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: calls and they're like, this guy's the greatest broadcast of all, 183 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: Like how about like there's there's do you believe in miracles? 184 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: Yes? 185 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: And then you can come back with I. 186 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: Can't believe what I just saw and. 187 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: Then finish it off with there are no flags on 188 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: the field, it's a miracle. You can just recycle all 189 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: of them and just claim them all as your own, 190 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: Like nobody over there is gonna know. 191 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: DJ's got bits. I love it. 192 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: I do wonder you know, if you're an American football 193 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: fan over here. I find them to be better fans 194 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: than the casual ones back home. And they have been 195 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: listening to American broadcast, so they might they might catch 196 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: on to that. But I'll give it a shot and 197 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 2: see if I get any responsible. One last thing on 198 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: the quarterback cycle and then we'll move. You mentioned getting 199 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: quieter feet, get a little better under pressure. I'm not 200 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: saying Daniel Jones is all the way there yet, but 201 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: he is a much calmer quarterback for the Colts. And 202 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: thinking back to Hit, he was a backup with with 203 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: the VIK. They didn't want to pay him that top 204 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: level backup money. It was sort of in between fourteen 205 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: million dollars. Obviously, that's been a transformative decision by the 206 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts to get him on a fourteen million dollar 207 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: deal and he's playing the way that he is. I 208 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: think he has looked a little calmer when he's been 209 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: under pressure this year. 210 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's been the theme if you're looking for 211 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: the recycled quarterback escape from New York Man, it's Gino 212 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: was able to do it. You've seen Sam do it, 213 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: and now you're seeing Daniel Jones do it. So there's 214 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: a lot of pressure that comes with that market, and 215 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: we've seen some guys leave there and have success outside 216 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: of it. Let's jump to the receivers and I'll pick 217 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: up the pace for us here. Greg. The three guys 218 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to hit on real quick. Tedo and McMillan 219 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: has been clearly the number one. The team stinks, Caroline 220 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 3: Panthers aren't any good, but he's had a couple drops, 221 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: but overall he looks the part of someone who was 222 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: picked where he was picked. I feel very good about 223 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 3: that one. If you were the Panthers. Abuka has been awesome. 224 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: I mean he's been to me, the most impressive overall. 225 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: He's I think, what about eight yards behind McMillan, But 226 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: with all the different guys they have there in Tampa, 227 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 3: I think what he's done has been more impressive. Some 228 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: big time, big time impressive catches. And then Travis Hunter 229 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 3: was the third one. Just you know, the production hasn't 230 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: jumped off the screen yet. Thirteen for a buck eighteen. 231 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: But he to me, everybody's like he needs to side 232 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: one or the other. I hear that argument. Just to me, 233 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: he just needs time. He needs time. He's not you know, 234 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: just just let it settle in. Brian Thomas Junior can't 235 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: catch the ball. He's been you know, gosh, I thought 236 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: he was gonna have a monster year. That has not happened. 237 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 3: But just be patient with Travis Hunter on that side 238 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: of the ball. He's been good on defense from what 239 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: I've seen. And then the one I put one that 240 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: I'm just personally a little disappointed in and maybe there's 241 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 3: more to come here, But like Jayden Higgins has five 242 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: for eighty nine and I know they have guys there, 243 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: but he's had one target, even throwing the ball once 244 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: and eat of the last three games. Like I thought 245 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 3: he would be more a piece of their offense and 246 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: a focal point. Now I did get in the end zone, 247 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: but he has not been really any type of feature 248 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: guy there. 249 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have a lot going on offense in 250 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: terms of their passing game, but you're right, even in 251 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: the first couple of games where Christian Kirk was not 252 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: out there, his snaps were like in half, you know, 253 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: they were somewhat limited, not getting a ton of targets. 254 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: Aguca might be he's got a chance to be Rookie 255 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: of the Year. He has been that good. So I 256 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: need to do some self scouting DJ because all off season, 257 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: you know who was a top my free agency wide 258 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: receiver list, if if you didn't count T Higgins who 259 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: ended up resigning, he was not signed by any team 260 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: in the NFL, it was Amari Cooper. In the preseason, 261 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: they kept putting it across the bottom line of NFL 262 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: Best Available I'm like number, but that's where you know, 263 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: I didn't know that the game just maybe wasn't in 264 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: him anymore, and he got back to the Raiders and 265 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: ended up retiring quickly. So I will point out Stefan 266 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: Diggs in this last week for the Patriots got a 267 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: big deal. It's kind of a year by year deal 268 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: where he got about eighteen twenty million dollars a year. 269 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: He's still less than a year away from his ACL surgery, 270 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: and he's not a burner by any means, but he 271 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: is the best receiver on that roster, and he's hard 272 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: enough to know where the openings and zone coverage are. 273 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: And I think ultimately they're going to be happy with 274 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs. I think that signing, like a lot of 275 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: their signings, is working out right now. 276 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how long term wise, if he's 277 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: going to be in their plans. Is they kind of 278 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: get these young guys to develop and continue to add 279 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: to that core as they go forward. But they needed dudes. 280 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: They just needed some help at this point time, and 281 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: the quarterback has played really well. 282 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 2: I do want to point out the best bargain at 283 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: this position plays for your Los Angeles. 284 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: Child Keenan Allen Man, I. 285 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: Mean the production that they are getting from Keenan Allen. 286 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: I say, I say it every year. 287 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: The best values in free agency are always the year 288 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: by year guys in their early to mid thirties. 289 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: You think, Okay, that's the end of their career. 290 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: I mean, he's going to produce better than a lot 291 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: of these twenty million dollar guys. 292 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: He has been excellent for them. 293 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this proof of concept, you know, I always say, oh, 294 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: you want somebody that's been in the system, or maybe 295 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: he has a relationship with the quarterback, or in this case, 296 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: you get a guy who's you know, the greatest, you know, 297 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: arguably the greatest receiver in the history of the franchise, 298 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 3: come right back and picks up right where he left off. 299 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: So he's been awesome and well received inside the locker 300 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 3: room as well. 301 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: You want to talk any running backs, Your old guy JK. 302 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: Dobbins is doing a good job in Denver. 303 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: He's really the one that that stands out to me 304 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: as a guy who I think they got a good value. 305 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: It's that year two after the surgery, and I think 306 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: he fits that system really nice. 307 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 308 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: I just hope he can stay healthy. If he stays healthy, 309 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: he's always been productive. It's just a matter of being 310 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 3: able to get him out there each and every week. 311 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: I would to me, I like the idea of lighting 312 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: his load as you go through, kind of manage him 313 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: so that you have him as you get to the 314 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: more meaningful section of the season. The running backs from 315 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: the draft, it's a really good group genty. Both him 316 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: and Hampton had big games last week. They're both you know, 317 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: playing well. Judkins since he's got signed as he's been 318 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: excellent Scataboo. The numbers aren't wowing, but just again seeing 319 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 3: it in person, he's in. He brings a lot of 320 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: juice and energy and toughness. Watch him as a lead 321 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 3: blocker now with Jackson Dart running the ball a little bit, 322 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 3: he's like a To me, he's like Mike Alstott you 323 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: left in the drier too long, Like just like a 324 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: little shrunken down version of that. But he's fun. He 325 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: is a fun watch with what he's done. The one 326 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 3: that I wrote down that's been just a little bit 327 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: of a bummer. And it's not that he's been terrible, 328 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: but I wrote thought Crayon Henderson was going to pop 329 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: more than he has so far, He's got one hundred 330 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: and five yards on the ground. 331 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: It's coming a little more each week. 332 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: He had a couple of really bad pass blocking reps, 333 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: which I was thinking about the best. 334 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: Pass blocking back in the that I've seen. 335 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: I remember that and and I remember Rabel getting on 336 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: him in a posting pressure, so I decided to go 337 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: back and watch it. It was only three reps DJ 338 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: and he had like catastrophic mistakes on all three, and 339 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: then they just didn't play him for a couple of 340 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: weeks on passing downs because of it. He had a penalty, 341 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: he had missed the assignment where he gave up a 342 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: sack and another pressure, and then back they played him 343 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: again more this week. He looks explosive to me, so 344 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: I'm not too worried. What other great value that I 345 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: just did not expect was Javonte Williams is running really 346 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: hard for the Dallas Cowboys. So some of these these 347 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: mid career cheap backs that you always say like you 348 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: can find it back, and you really can. 349 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: Javonte Williams has been good for the Cowboys. 350 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: And to be honest, before he popped his achilles, Naji 351 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: Harrison was running the ball well for the Chargers as well. 352 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: So another one of those kind of mid mid to 353 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: mid career guys. Do we have let's go tight ends 354 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: real quick. Tyler Warren has been everything as advertised. Harold 355 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: Fannon has been awesome with Cleveland. Both those guys are 356 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: you know, key parts of their offense, focal points. And 357 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: then the disappointment would be Colson Lovelin three catches through 358 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: four weeks like that. You know, you take a guy 359 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: in the first round that high, even with all the 360 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: other pieces they have. It just he hasn't really been 361 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: a factor at all. 362 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: Not an exciting position at free agency at tight end. 363 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: So I'll just throw the Warren thing back at you. 364 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: You are so high at on Warren and he's one 365 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: of those guys that even watch him in the preseason, 366 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: I think you could realize, oh, this is gonna work. 367 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: And I kind of think he's the most important player 368 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: on their offense, I guess other than quarterback, but it 369 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: seems like so much of their offense is around him. 370 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: He is a special little player, another possibility to win 371 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: Offensive Rookie of the Year. 372 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: And I think he's one of those weird guys that, 373 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: like you got to watch a ton of him to 374 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: appreciate him, you know, because if you're just looking at like, 375 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: who's the silky smooth like a dynamic like, he doesn't 376 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: fit any of those narratives. He's just a really really 377 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: good player who understands how to play in space. He 378 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: understands how to keep guys on his back when he's 379 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: going to get the football. He's tough to get on 380 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: the ground after the catch. He's a really, really, really 381 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: good football player. So that was a perfect fit. That's 382 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: one of those things we said it in one of 383 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: the first episodes we did right after the draft, which 384 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: was this was the ideal need and value marrying up 385 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,479 Speaker 3: for them with where they were in the draft, and 386 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: Chris Ballard nailed that one. You want to do some 387 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: offensive lineman. 388 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: Greg, I only have bad news for offensive linemen, but 389 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: they were so some of my strongest takes. Basically, you 390 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: do not want to find offensive lineman and free agency, 391 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: Now this isn't every single year, but you do tend 392 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: to overpay. And if you think about the teams that 393 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: win in the most, it was the Vikings and it 394 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: was the Bears, and I don't think either one of 395 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: them are feeling too good about their investments. Will Fryes 396 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: has been okay. Maybe I'm sticking in my head because 397 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: I was at the game. It's a beautiful view. When 398 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: you're calling the game, you can really see it. I 399 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: know what DJ experiences every week. Man, they were getting 400 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: caved in even before Ryan Kelly left the game, and 401 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: he's had a couple concussions. 402 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: Now. Early Will Fryes has struggled. And then the Bears. 403 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: You remember we thought, well did they fix their offensive line? 404 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: They got Tony and Drew Dolman and Jodan Jackson. I 405 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: would say all three, to varying degrees, have struggled. Tony's 406 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: been okay, and the other two in general, their offensive 407 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 2: line not really playing well on the interior. So it 408 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: is tough to buy an offensive line, is kinda my takeaway, 409 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: especially on the interior. 410 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 3: How old were you when you got married, Greg? 411 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: Pretty young for this generation, although I'm not in this 412 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: generation anymore. I think twenty seven, twenty seven, Okay, yeah. 413 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: I was twenty two, but I remember I used to 414 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: always hear people say like, oh, you better find your person. 415 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: You don't want to be looking shopping when you're forties. 416 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 3: There's not a lot of there's a reason why people 417 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 3: are single in forties. You don't want to marry them. 418 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 3: And I'm sitting here going like that's offensive line. Like, 419 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 3: if you're a decent offensive lineman, you don't get nobody 420 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 3: lets you out of the building. So if you're out 421 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: there and available for the most part, there's a pretty 422 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: good reason for it. And it's a little bit of 423 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: a buyer beware there. 424 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: So Dan Moore is another one which we criticized at 425 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: the time, wondering why he got so much money and 426 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: he's struggled for the Titans. 427 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: Left not good enough for the rookies. Look Will Campbell, 428 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: Membo and Josh Simmons. I saw Josh Simmons live and 429 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 3: person he's going to be We've said it. He's going 430 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 3: to be really, really good, provided he can be out 431 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 3: there and be healthy. He is very talented. It's the 432 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: I think he's the best left tackle the Chiefs have had. 433 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 3: I don't even know how long it goes way back 434 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 3: with how well he's played. And then you know one 435 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: that I wasn't in love with at the time and 436 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 3: who struggled as ursery. You know, I was not an 437 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: ursery guy coming out you know, even some of the 438 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 3: statistical stuff, it shows that at his pressure rates over ten, 439 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: it's giving up four sacks. He's played on the left 440 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: and the right side, which isn't really fair to a 441 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: young player to have to bounce around a little bit. 442 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: So sometimes it takes long, guys, DT's and ots, there 443 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: can be a little bit longer development process there. So 444 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 3: you never want to give up on somebody early. And 445 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 3: we've only been four games in, so let's let's track 446 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: him as he goes through the year hopefully gets better. 447 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of offensive line stories. Andrew Thomas 448 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: really sticks out to me as a guy who after 449 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: his rookie year, Giants fans thought he was a bust. 450 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: He turned into one of the best players in the 451 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: entire league at its position. I've seen that quite a bit. 452 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to defense. You want to, let's 453 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: let's do edges that you go first with your draft pick. 454 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: Edges. 455 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to jump into edges. But before we 456 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 3: do that, let's hear let's hear this amazing advertisement. 457 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: We are back on forties and free agents and I'm 458 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: here in shame in London because DJ is the one 459 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: on top of things, and I actually through it to 460 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: the break. 461 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 3: Well, it's hard. I mean, look, you're not playing a 462 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 3: home game, You're on the road, and you got to 463 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: step up, gotta help out your team. It's something in 464 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 3: the US Ryder Cup team wasn't able to do. You know, 465 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: you hit it in the woods and I got us back. 466 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: I got us back in the fairway. Man, That's all 467 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 3: I'm trying to do. 468 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: I wish I knew more about what went on there, 469 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: but I was not. I was not locked in like 470 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: a lot of the players. 471 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: All right, hold on, hold on before you start, Can 472 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 3: I show you who I'm the favorite person I saw 473 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: at the Ryder Cup. Ken Griffy Junior was doing his 474 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 3: photographer thing walking around. I'm like, hey, it's Ken Griffy 475 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: came over. Nicest guy in the world. And to be 476 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 3: honest with you, last golf take of the day, if 477 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: Ken Griffy Junior played instead of Scottie Schffler would have scored 478 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: the same amount of points. 479 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: So unfortunately, why do so many great all time athletes 480 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: become professional photographer? 481 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: And you got Marshay Johnson? 482 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, is it Marshawn? Yeah, it's a fun hobby. 483 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: It's a fun It's a fun job for these guys. 484 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw out the defensive 485 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: end that you go out to me the most. It's 486 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: actually a combination of the two Cardinals pick ups Kalais 487 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 2: Campbell and Josh Sweat. 488 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: They have both delivered. 489 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: Campbell makes my point that I said earlier, the best 490 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: values in free agency are often these these guys towards 491 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: the end of their career. They only have to pay 492 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 2: him five and a half million dollars. I mean, he's 493 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: playing like a pro bowler. He's he's helped really win 494 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: their two games that they won were largely because of 495 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 2: Kalais Campbell and Josh Sweat. Josh Swett has had consistent 496 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 2: pressure sacks, basically been exactly what they wanted. They got 497 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: other issues on that team, but those two guys together 498 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: and Campbell, who is a guest on NFL Daily this 499 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: week with Jordan Jordan Rodrigue doing the interview. Just thought 500 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: i'd give him a plug. But he's been incredible. 501 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: Again. 502 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 3: Well, there you go, these veteran guys making an impact, 503 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 3: and I think it's been good so far. From the 504 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: rookies as well. Abdul Carter. I saw him in person, 505 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: and that that get off is real. You know, he 506 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 3: had to play off the ball the previous week because 507 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: of injuries. But I'm curious to see I think I 508 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 3: don't know for sure, but I believe Thibodeau's I don't 509 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 3: think they picked up as fifth year option. I think 510 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: he's up after this year. Interest to see what they 511 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: do there because it is the best part of their 512 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: defense is their front. When Dexter Lawrence is starting to 513 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: play a little bit better, but man, it's like every 514 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: rep you can get Abdul Carter off the edge and 515 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: on the opposite side of Burns is It's fun to watch. 516 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: And Tibdau is playing well too. Don't get me wrong, 517 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 3: but Abdul Carter's got twenty one pressures, nine more than 518 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: any other rookie. Like he's been clearly with this defensive 519 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 3: pass rusher. 520 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: He won that game for them. I just watched that 521 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 2: today and he was he was impressive. They did pick 522 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: up Thibadeau's fifth year option, which I think they'll feel 523 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: good about. You know, some games they've they've used Carter 524 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: at linebacker. They're rushing him on the inside. In some 525 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: games he's been at edge. I mean, that's a great 526 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: trio to be rushing the passer. 527 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: It's fun. I just to me, I wish they could 528 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 3: just let him just purely just rush outside and get comfortable. 529 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 3: He can win so many different ways. He's been awesome. 530 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: James Pierce, you know, I think probably the most pressure 531 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: of anybody, not that pass rush preser, the most, the 532 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 3: most riding on a selection would be James Pierce because 533 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 3: they traded a future one with the Rams to go 534 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 3: get a second pass rusher after Walker, who they took, 535 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 3: who's been good. But Pierce got twelve pressures. He's got 536 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 3: a twenty one percent pressure rate, which is incredibly high. 537 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: So if you're just looking at some of the numbers 538 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 3: and stuff, he's been good there. Mikel Williams has been 539 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: good with San Francisco your favorite in mind, Mason Graham 540 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: has been excellent as a defensive tackle. 541 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: That I think that's I think that's over selling it 542 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 2: because we have something on the line here. 543 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: He's been He's been fine. 544 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 3: Okay, so he only has seven pressures, that is tied 545 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: for the most among defensive tackles. He does have three 546 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: tackles for loss, which is also the most among amongst 547 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: all rookies. So I mean, yeah, I mean technically he's 548 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: first and everything, but you know, for Greg's point, he 549 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: wants to make and he's going to die on this hill? 550 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: Is it? 551 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: Somehow this wasn't a good pick. But that's that's where 552 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 3: we are. If you, I mean, the numbers and the 553 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 3: tape doesn't match that, but that but that's you know, 554 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 3: that's your take. 555 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: Because I'm locked into this and emotionally connected. I'm tracking it. 556 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: And he had a really good Week three. That was 557 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: against green Bay. People notice that was against backups, but 558 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: you know green Bay. The other games he's been quite quiet. 559 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 2: And if you look at like the FF grades for 560 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: what for what it's worth, the pass rush, win ray, 561 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 2: the overall grade for better, he's been okay. I don't 562 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: think he's one of the top three rookies on the Browns. 563 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 3: I mean, we're we're gonna get to some of these 564 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: other guys. 565 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: It's been even better. Last one, I'll say. 566 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: On the lineman, Milton Williams has come as advertised, he 567 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: has really been consistently pushing the pocket. And I was 568 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: thinking in that game against Carolina that was really the 569 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: Milton Williams Bowl. They they wanted to pay him and 570 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: he has helped out that whole line. Really, their big 571 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: ticket signings have worked. Harrol Landry's played very well for 572 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: the Patriots too, so they're happy. And then again it's 573 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: in my head because I was watching it, but Javon 574 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: Hargrave and Jonathan Allen really struggled in that game against 575 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: the Steelers on Sunday, and in general this year, not 576 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: a ton of production from those two guys. At the 577 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: Vikings signed on their defensive interior, Yeah, they were very active. 578 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: The Vikings were the one disappointment, I would say on 579 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: the on the pass rush side, and again I kind 580 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: of just grouped all the pass rush inside outside, all 581 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 3: those guys all together, Schamar Stewart just because you had 582 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: the contracts always like getting there every thing. He has 583 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: ankle injury, so it just hasn't really got off the 584 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 3: you know, off the mat yet, so just kind of 585 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: a slow start there. But hopefully he comes back he's 586 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: healthy and makes an impact for them. 587 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: I did want to give one shout out by the way, 588 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: it was a trade. 589 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if accounts in fregency, but Bryce Huf 590 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: Bryce Huff has been fantastic for the forty nine ers. 591 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: He's right back to being like Robert Salab, Bryce Uff 592 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: and the Jets. 593 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's perfect. 594 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 3: We use the phrase. We use the phrase in the 595 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: personnel department, like sponsors, like you got to have a sponsor. 596 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: And you can see it with guys. You'll see it 597 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: with backup quarterbacks, Like a backup quarterback that has the sponsor, 598 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: like they could hang around forever man because you just 599 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 3: got a coach that loves him and he'll always have work. 600 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: And so in this case, it is a great fit 601 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 3: because it's just all get off. Just that to help 602 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 3: Bryce Huff wins. We're not worried about you holding up 603 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 3: and playing the point of attack. Just get off the 604 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 3: rock and go. And that's where he's been excellent. You 605 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 3: want to go to linebackers, Yeah, let's do it. I 606 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: think good for the rookies. Swetzinger's been the best one, 607 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: you know, as you referenced, he's been awesome, and it's 608 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 3: everything he can run and cover. He's got range, his 609 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: eyes work well, he's got great instincts. He's been awesome. 610 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: Johdan Campbell has done some stuff in coverage that's been outstanding. 611 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 3: Was a favorite of ours coming through the draft process 612 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: with the Eagles, and he gets to play next to 613 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: an absolute stud. There's no better person for him to 614 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: play next to in Zach Bond to learn from him, 615 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: and Demetrius Knight, I think has done a nice job 616 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: as well. So there's three off the ball linebackers for rookies, 617 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: which is not always easy to do. I think all 618 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 3: three of those guys who played really well. 619 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: I feel like off ball linebackers are back. We're seeing 620 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: some young, really good players in the league. When you 621 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: think about Eddrian Cooper, you seem like you're under selling 622 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: John Campbell. I feel like for a rookie position, he's impressive. 623 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: He's impressive. 624 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: He the only thing he's got going against him is 625 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 3: the guy he's playing next to, who makes you know, 626 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 3: twice as many incredible wild plays, none of his fault, 627 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: but just that's how good Bond is. But he's been 628 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 3: really good. 629 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, there weren't a lot of big splashes in terms 630 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: of the free agent market. Drake Greenlaw that was a 631 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: risky contract that they brought him in to Denver with 632 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: and he has not been healthy. He was not healthy 633 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: a year ago, so that's kind of an incomplete but 634 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: right now it's not working out well for them. Jamien 635 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 2: Sherwood is a guy who I've noticed been on the 636 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 2: wrong end of a lot of bad plays against the 637 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: Jets this year. They re signed him to pretty good 638 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: money and then on the positive side that way, I 639 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 2: thought the Ernest Jones contract for Seattle was quietly important 640 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: for what they're doing, and he is right in the 641 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 2: middle of one of the best defenses in the league, 642 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: so that in terms of the money that they gave him, 643 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: which was not too much, I thought that turned out. 644 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: To be a really good value so far. 645 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: I love Ernest Jones and I've always won. I didn't 646 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 3: understand why he kept bouncing around because everywhere he was 647 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: I felt like he played really well. But we got 648 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: to get rid of thirteen. Something about it. Off the 649 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 3: ball linebacker worth thirteen. It's just not a good look. 650 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So you're using the term off ball linebacker, and 651 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: I've used that term a long time. And then some 652 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: guy on Twitter I don't know when it was, replied 653 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 2: to something I said, you know recently and was like, Greg, 654 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: you're sounding like an like you're not a ball No 655 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: where nobody says, off ball linebacker anymore. That's not a 656 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: term that like real football people use anymore. I was like, 657 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: did I miss the meeting? Did I not get invited? 658 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: That we're not using that term anyway? You're using it? 659 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: How much more real football can you get? 660 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: Well, everybody I knows, everybody I know and talk to 661 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: in the NFL used it. So maybe maybe maybe Greg's 662 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: putting a little too much emphasis and credence into what's 663 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: being said online, which I wouldn't think you would do. 664 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: After Nick Benito just tried to drag you on social media. 665 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: That thing has over a million views right now after 666 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: for those you know, three days ago, Greg, the Vikings 667 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 3: defense is so good, Jake Browning will be relieved to 668 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: face the Broncos. Then after the game you get Nick 669 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 3: Benito retweeting it with the crying laughing emoji. Do we 670 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: have an updated number on the views? Can Gavin give 671 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: me an update? Because the screen grab I got was 672 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: from an hour ago, it was only a million time. 673 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: Don't know if we've maybe got another hundred thousand since 674 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,239 Speaker 3: then or not. 675 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: You are breaking this news to me. 676 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: You do not know this. 677 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: I did not know this. 678 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Nick Benito he had, and he had to 679 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: have had its stories at one point one. He had 680 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: to have had that store you said three days ago. 681 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: I did notice. I haven't been online much. 682 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: Like a troll. You're just like a you know, your 683 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: hot take troll guy. Now I don't even know who 684 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 3: you are. 685 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: I did notice there were a decent like there were 686 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: a handful of Broncos fans in my mention, but they're 687 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: always chirpy anyways, And I haven't been too locked in, 688 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: you know. 689 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: It was really more about the Vikings defense. 690 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: The point was this, Nick didn't see it that way. 691 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: It's so great that like the Broncos. 692 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: What I didn't consider DJ is that Jake Browning and 693 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: the Bengals offense is actually the common denominator here. If 694 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: you want to see what the best defense in the 695 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: NFL is, it's whoever's playing Jake Browning and the Bengals. 696 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: At least the last two weeks, literally the best two 697 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: defensive performances of the entire seat are against Jake Browning 698 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: and that Bengals offense. 699 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: So more this is more of an NFL Daily topic, 700 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: But would you trade for. 701 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: Jamis if I was the Bengals watching. 702 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: Jake Browning play every week. 703 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it. 704 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: It really seems like it's more. Though Jamis would not 705 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: Jamis would help them, but. 706 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 3: He'd be like Jamar Chase, I'm gonna give you fifteen 707 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: targets every game. 708 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: This is what the offensive line, it's the system, and 709 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: then it's the defense. It's it's everything there is not 710 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: good really except for the receivers. All right, let's wrap 711 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: it up with the defensive backs. 712 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 3: Go ahead, I'll uh, I'll just rip through three guys 713 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: here real quick. The couple safeties there with Xavier Watson 714 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: Billy bow would have been excellent. So they're fun like 715 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: those guys. Will Johnson slipped because he didn't run fast, 716 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: but has been a good player, got his hand on 717 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 3: a bunch of footballs. He's played well on what I've 718 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 3: seen of him. So those are three names, not you know, 719 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 3: not first round picks, but three good secondary players for 720 00:30:59,040 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: you right there. 721 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm still just scrambling and now I'm looking, you know, 722 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: I want to find this Nick Benito tweet. 723 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: I'm I'm all over, I'm. 724 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm on till and I'm annoyed too because I've used 725 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: every platform that i have. DJ NFL Daily NFL Game 726 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: debut to talk about how great Nick Bonito is this year. 727 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: That he was I think second or third in Defensive 728 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: Player of the Year last year, and I think he's 729 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: taken it to another level. He might be like like 730 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: the best pure press rusher in the NFL along with 731 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: Micah right now. Defensive, yeah, that none of that's going 732 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: to matter the defensive backs. You know, a couple signings 733 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: stuck out with me for the Giants that really haven't 734 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: turned around their defensive backfield. Paulson Adiebo was a big 735 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: risk and Javon Holland really hasn't helped their secondary out 736 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: too much. I feel like that's another position that it's 737 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: very difficult to find like a great. 738 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: Value in freegency. 739 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: But I do like what the the Indianapolis Colts did. 740 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: Chris Ballard has really had like a great offseason. If 741 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: you look at their secondary, Tarvarius Ward and cam Binam 742 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: have been extremely competitive, especially Tarvarius Ward, and overall has 743 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: has upgraded a group that without them would would really 744 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: be struggling. 745 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: So give the Colts some credit there. 746 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've done a nice job. And not only what 747 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: the moves they've made in the off season with the 748 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 3: draft and free agency that have been heralded in our conversation, 749 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: but it's it's just translated overall how they've played on 750 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 3: the field. And I think you got to give the 751 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: combination of Chris Ballard gets a lot of grief and 752 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: I thought you did a nice job this offseason. And 753 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 3: I actually think Shane Steichen is one of the best 754 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 3: in game coaches of how you know, how he can 755 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 3: design things and call plays. He's done a really really 756 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: good job. 757 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: Well you know who they used to say that about too, 758 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: you know. 759 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: Their defensive. 760 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: So overall, it's a much more talented group, I would say. 761 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: And it's funny, I'm looking at this free agency list 762 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 2: out there and then you realize, like a Sante Samuel Junior, 763 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: he's not even on a team. Stephan Gilmore is not 764 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: even on a team. Some of these guys I thought 765 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: that were pretty good pickups never even got signed. 766 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: So free agency never ends. You. 767 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: You know that you were in the front office, the 768 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: pro personnel department is scouring for picks right now. 769 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 3: Think about it. If we were in the same type 770 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 3: of environment as the teams are, Like say, you know, 771 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: for instance, hypothetically, if you were ever a podcasting free agent. 772 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: You know, like, hey, we don't we don't. We don't 773 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 3: like you enough to just give you the contract, but 774 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: we'll give you you come in and work out for 775 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: us a little bit. Let's just come in here workshop 776 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 3: a couple of segments and we'll see you might be 777 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 3: on our ready list. You might just be on the 778 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: ready list that if in the future we feel like 779 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 3: you know, we did an extra podcast, we would we'd 780 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: bring you in. 781 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: This would not be the tape that I would submit. 782 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 3: DJ isn't what you get getting crushed by Nick Benito. 783 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 3: It's not that that's not the audition tape. 784 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: I've been until ever since that moment happened. 785 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: It was a pleasure. We are going to do this again. 786 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: Like I said about halfway through the season, I think 787 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: it's on the books for the beginning of November. So 788 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: keep studying, keep listening, to move the sticks. 789 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: Everyone out there. 790 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: We'll be back with another NFL Daily very shortly. And 791 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: yes we'll be on a one month break from forties 792 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 2: and free agents. 793 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: We'll see you next day.