1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: You come here because you want the dirt. 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: You want the scoop on the biggest scandal in college 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: sports right now, and I'm gonna give it to you. 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: But it has nothing to do with Michigan. Michigan we'll 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: talk about later. But we got a couple of rules 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: around here. One of them is, don't lose to food, 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: and Peyton State doesn't play Rice this year. The other 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: rule is just say no to fall weddings. It gets 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: in the way of everything. No one likes them, even 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: half the people in them don't like them. And so 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: we speak from what I thought was a mountain of 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: a little bit of moral superiority on this. And then 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I get blindsided by treachery. The 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: other day, our very own producer. Some would think he's 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: trying to start at quarterback for Utah, but no, no, no, no, no. 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: In real life, producer Jesse just helps produce the show, 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: or we thought he did. And then all of a sudden, 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: knock on the door and it's Jesse and he says, 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm out. 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: Jesse's no longer with us. 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: He didn't die anything, get fired, He's not yet, but 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: he chose a fall wedding not even to be in 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: one himself, mind you, he is participating in one as 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: a groomsman. So the company thought it best to bring 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: in one of those sketch artists, not an artist who 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: is sketched, that would be Jesse. To bring in a 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: sketch artist and just have me share my feelings, and 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: this is what resulted from it. If you're listening on podcasts, 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: I really can't do it justice. It's a bus, it's 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: speeding towards Jesse, and I'm in the driver's seat, probably 31 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: one of those England buses. Because I'm on the other side. 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm disappointed, to say the least. But producer Belchie is 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: taken over, Director Collins in here. I think even Grishie's 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: in here because he's responsible for this wonderful artwork. So 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: I appreciate those who's stuck around. Those who stay will 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: be champions. That's what they told the SMU players just 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: before they got demolished. 38 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: After the scandal, there we're. 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: Jam packed hi top an anxious downtown Nashville, Tennessee. Because 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: Jesse going to the wedding is not the only scandal. 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: As it turns out, there's been some stuff happening at Michigan. 42 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you guys have heard about this, 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: but boy oh boy, we got three or four stories 44 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: that just broke today, and. 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, I got some new thoughts. 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: I swear to you I would only lead the show 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: with Michigan if I had new thoughts and new information emerged. 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: We have both of those boxes checked. But we've got. 49 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: Upset alerts to talk about in week nine. Everyone's just 50 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: gonna assume Texas wins this weekend. Assume Ohio State wins. 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: Half my Buckeye fans don't even know they play Wisconsin Saturday. 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll talk about that. Cole Kublick has made 53 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: a mysterious reappearance and we'll have him on the show 54 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: a little bit later. 55 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: Good conversation with him. 56 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, despite adults in the room advising him to 57 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: sit out the rest of the year, is going to 58 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: continue to play. We're gonna talk about that. Is there 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: anything that trips up Georgia between now in Atlanta? 60 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: All that? 61 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: I got several added best bets. We had a jam 62 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: packed show tonight. They're watching us in a Laredo, Texas 63 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: Grand Rapids, Michigan, Saint Louis Missouri, Los Angeles or Los Angeles, California. 64 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: It's going to be a very very exciting weekend for us. 65 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: I am flying down to Jacksonville tomorrow. We got like 66 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 2: really really expanded coverage in addition to the Once Upon 67 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: a Saturday tour this Saturday at Georgia, Florida down in Jacksonville. 68 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: So make sure you're following on the gram at late 69 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 2: Kick Josh number one because that's where Friday Night Lines 70 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: airs exclusively courtesy of FanDuel and number two. I'll get 71 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: you all sorts of behind the scenes stuff you otherwise 72 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: wouldn't see Saturday. So that's for this weekend. 73 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: Let's pop. 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: Let's ceremonially pop the paper. 75 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: Here we go. 76 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: The Michigan thing just continues to spiral and spiral and spiral. 77 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: I know most of you have lives to live in, 78 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: jobs to go to, or school to attend, and so 79 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: you know you may have been settling in for the evening. 80 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: What did I miss today? 81 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: Well, Pete Family ESPN NCAA is now on Michigan's campus 82 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: investigating and questioning coaches. Detroit Free Press NCAA looking into 83 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: the electronics of Michigan's staffers. Ross Dellinger, Yahoo TCU knew 84 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: about the signs stealing in last year's playoffs and created 85 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: dummy signals. Now, I know some of you who played 86 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: the game, or coached the game, or just know the game, 87 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: know that that pretty much happens every game anyway, dummy audibles, 88 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: dummy signals, and so yes, there is a fair amount 89 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: surrounding this entire ordeal of big deal. I've heard that 90 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: a lot. So how big a deal is it? Well, 91 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: I think that's the number one question that we need 92 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: to ask here, But not how big a deal is it? 93 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: How big a story is it going to be? You 94 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: may think those two sound the same, they're not so. 95 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: Right now, we're in what I call headline hurricane warning territory. 96 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: Headline hurricane is a term I've used on the show before. 97 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: That's that thing where if, for instance, if someone if 98 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: one person walks up to you and says, Bradley stole 99 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: a pair of jeans, you say that sounds about like Bradley, 100 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: Shame on Bradley. But if one hundred people yell Bradley 101 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: stole a pair of jeans, it sounds so much more serious. 102 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: And people who are in a capacity to punish Bradley 103 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: may take it a lot more serious. 104 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. 105 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: When a bunch of people are screaming the same thing, 106 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: you've got to really go above board with how you 107 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: think atonement should be handled. Suspend h no, no, no, no, 108 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: fire them no, lock them up. And that's the territory 109 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: we're now approaching with this whole Michigan science stealing scandal. 110 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: Notice it's not one entity. It's not just Ross Dellinger. 111 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: It's Ross Dellinger over here. It's the Detroit Free Press. 112 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: Washington Post had a big expose last night. Famil's got 113 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: something new every three or four hours. Rarely, I mean rarely, 114 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: in sports or anything else do this. Many people get 115 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: fixated on you in media and you just get out 116 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: Scott free. Now, if I'm a Michigan fan, I know 117 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: how you guys feel. You feel like you're getting railroaded. 118 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: You feel like you're getting screwed in this. You feel 119 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 2: like a lot is being made and you're being made 120 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: to be the face of something that probably is more 121 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: widespread than anyone wants to admit. My response to that 122 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: is I agree, agree, agree, and agree, and yet it 123 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: may not matter. May not matter because I'm not responsible 124 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: for handing down sanctions on these sorts of things. But 125 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: the other thing I just want to talk about for 126 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: a second, because this is how I've spent the majority 127 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: of the last two days at least on this front, 128 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: is I got a lot of people coming to me saying, Bro, 129 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: do you know how serious this Michigan thing is? Or Bro, 130 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: how serious is. 131 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: This Michigan thing? Well that's the question, isn't it? 132 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: How serious is it? It doesn't matter how serious I 133 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: think it is. See, here's the thing. You may not 134 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: think it's serious. I may think they ought to be 135 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: sent to Guantanamo for it. And neither of our opinions 136 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: matter because we're not in an authority atitative position. Really, 137 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, whether you read Pete 138 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: Thammel or Dellinger or Detroit Free Press or you know, 139 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: the Harris County Journal Constitution comes out with a new 140 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: story since everyone else seems to have one, all that 141 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: matters at the end of the day is what does 142 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: the NCAA think, what does the Big ten think? And 143 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: I happen to believe, still on guided word, that the 144 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: College Footballlayoff committee may look around and if no one 145 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: else does anything. They may just take it upon themselves 146 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: to become judge and jury on this. Hopefully not because 147 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: that would be ludicrous. How serious is it? That's really 148 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: the unknown. I've done a million radio hits last two days. 149 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: That's what I keep coming back to. How serious is it? 150 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: But I'm leaving an open ended I think it's fairly serious. 151 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: I certainly think everyone who's out there banging the drum 152 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: of everyone does it is very misguided. Everyone doesn't do 153 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: it to this extent. You're crazy if you think everyone 154 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: does this. I also am very curious how this entire 155 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: how this entire venture was really funded, because it wasn't 156 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: from a dude making fifty five K a year. Of 157 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: that I am fairly sure. Can't prove it, but of 158 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: that I am fairly certain. So you know, there's some 159 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: very very big red flags that have to be pulled 160 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: down off the pole before anybody starts to feel halfway 161 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 2: decent about where Michigan is here. But how serious is it? 162 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if one person is yelling about your 163 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: offense or one hundred people are yelling about your offense. 164 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: It doesn't change the severity of the offense. That's what 165 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: I keep going back to because I've watched this happen 166 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: when it comes to recruiting scandal before. You knows most 167 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: NCAA investigations you don't even know about. Some of them 168 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: you do, and the ones you do are made to 169 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 2: be much bigger deals. But in reality, what you don't 170 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: know is you're seeing one example over here that they've 171 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: dealt with fifty other times and the sanctions were mildly 172 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: punitive at best. But because there's so much attention on 173 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: this one over here, you think some university gets off 174 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: light when they get the same very very minor punitive 175 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: actions taken against them. And the reality is, no, that's 176 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: just the letter of their law. That's kind of how 177 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: their sanction scale said they should handle it all along. 178 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: So what does that sanction scale say about something that, 179 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: as far as we know, they've never had to punish for. 180 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: It could be that they look at it the same 181 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: way Major League Baseball and Booie Koon looked at Pete Rose. 182 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Or it could be that they look at. 183 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: It and say, I mean, yeah, it's bad, but what 184 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: are we gonna do. We're gonna drop the hammer on 185 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: an entire university Because they were stealing some signs, fire the. 186 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: Dude clean things out. 187 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: Maybe Harball's there next year, maybe he's not. If he is, 188 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: fine him, he should have known. Even if even if 189 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: he didn't know, I could go either way on that. 190 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 2: I have no clue which way they're going to go, 191 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: and I don't think, at least from ninety nine percent 192 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: of the peanut gallery out there, I don't think there's 193 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: any guided skill in anticipating which way they're going to 194 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: go on this. I've got my feelings like you do. 195 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: I feel like there are a lot of clouds over 196 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: the university right now. I don't feel like it's going 197 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: to end very well from Michigan. That's just a feeling 198 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: I have. It's not like I have. You know, nc 199 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: double A enforcement online too, seems like some other folks do. 200 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: But I am not one of the entities the NCAA 201 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: decides to leak things too for whatever reON Have. 202 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: We covered that organization on the show a time or two. 203 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. 204 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: Look some other things that I just want to hit 205 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: right quick. I have a beloved, beloved coach that texted 206 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 2: me a little while ago and I have not answered 207 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: him back. So I'm want to answer him on the show. Now, 208 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: he hit me up and said something to the effect of, 209 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: have you noticed that no football people are really making 210 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: that big a deal of this. It's not entirely true. 211 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 2: It's just that not many of them have gone on 212 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: the public offensive. For reasons I'll talk about in a second. 213 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: Not many of them have gone on the public offensive. 214 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: Now. Remember in the in. 215 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 2: The World of Tampering about a year ago when everyone 216 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: was complaining about tampering and the transfer portal with nil 217 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 2: and stuff, And I came on this show and said, 218 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: I'm not taking it serious until one of you put 219 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: your name out there publicly and calls other coaches out 220 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: by name. Y'all all want to say everyone's doing it, 221 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: call him out. Well, Patnardoozy did, and I gave him 222 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: a hat tip. 223 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: On the show. Paton Rdoozy was the. 224 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: Only one with the Stones to specifically go on record 225 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: and specifically call out USC and Lincoln Riley because he 226 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: thought they stole Jordan Addison and lo behold a cycle. Later, 227 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: pat no Ardozy was on record of saying, no, we 228 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: didn't have any problem with tampering this time around. It's 229 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: almost like going on the offensive works. Well, you haven't 230 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: heard any coaches publicly start shaming Michigan. 231 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: I've had some of them. 232 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: Do it privately, none of them have done it publicly, 233 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: which leads me to my next point. Ross Dellinger has 234 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 2: a really interesting story over on Yahoo late this afternoon. 235 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: TCU was so aware of the signs stealing operation that 236 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: Michigan had put in most that they got tipped off 237 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: by other coaching staffs and they used dummy signals, and 238 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: as you know, they went on to beat Michigan in 239 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: the semi final. 240 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: Was it because of that or not? 241 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: Hoops just to say, but the obvious follow up there 242 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: as Wow, this was so well known that other staffs 243 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: were tipping off each other when they were going to 244 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: play Michigan. If it was so well known, why didn't 245 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: we know about it? If it was so well known, 246 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 2: why hadn't other coaching staffs put this way out in 247 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: front of the public. Why did it have to be 248 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: uncovered in the manner it was uncovered? And the answer 249 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: is probably one of two things. Either they didn't think 250 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: it was a big enough deal, or they themselves were 251 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: engaged in the practice to some degree. And I would 252 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: imagine the reason you didn't see other coaching staffs come 253 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: to the forefront with This is probably the same reason 254 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: they don't call each other out by name when it 255 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: comes to tampering, because if I know three days from now, 256 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: I may have to do a little light tampering myself. 257 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: I'm not calling you out today. Tampering now, that's just 258 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: me putting two and two together. What am I'm just 259 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 2: sitting here in a studio in Nashville with you know, 260 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: maybe a few well placed sources, but buying large. 261 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: I don't think you need to know anyone on the. 262 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: Inside of the college football bubble to assume some of 263 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: the things I just said are true. But I think 264 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: that you will continue to see details come out about this, 265 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: the whole FBI involvement from Matt Weiss's computer thing from 266 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: like it feels like years ago, but it was earlier 267 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 2: this year. Like if you don't remember that they had 268 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: to fire a guy up there and it was for 269 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: things that were found on his computer. And now, lo 270 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: and behold today you find out the FBI has been 271 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 2: working with university police because they believe there were very 272 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: very serious infractions. We're not talking about of an NC 273 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: DOUBLEA nature either. It sounds like you can do your 274 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: own math on that. And so you've got all sorts 275 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: of acronym outfits on campus. You got the FBI up there, 276 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: you got the NC DOUBLEA up there. Sec teams never 277 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: travel up there. Maybe the Securities and Exchanges Commission travels 278 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: up there. So it doesn't feel like. 279 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: Things are going to end well for Michigan. 280 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean anything more than I've just got 281 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: a bad feeling about it. I know, I know, I 282 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: know it would greatly behoove our social team if I 283 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: were to bang the gavel on the table and just 284 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: tell you Michigan's cooked. Maybe they are, But I'm not 285 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: ready to go on record and say that yet. 286 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: What I am ready to go. 287 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: On record and say is, you know, as long as 288 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: the FAA comes through for us, we will be in 289 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: Jacksonville tomorrow night. I will do Friday night lines from 290 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: an obscure hotel room somewhere in the greater Jacksonville area. 291 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: And then Saturday, the once upon a Saturday tour will 292 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: be over at Belchie what's the name of that stadium now, 293 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: TIAA Stadium, whatever, the one in Jacksonville, and we'll have 294 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: a lot. 295 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: Of fun there. 296 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: But about seventy two hours from now, the T shirt 297 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: that commemorates this trip will cease to exist in the 298 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: patestatemterial dot com store. So there's a picture of it. 299 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: If you're listening on podcast, use theater of your mind. 300 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: The once upon a Saturday tour. I can guarantee you 301 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: it's the only stop we make in Jacksonville, Florida this year, 302 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: and Georgia, Florida only happens once a year, and there's 303 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: no guarantee that we'll be back at that game next 304 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: year or the year after that or year after that. 305 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: So if you want that t shirt one week only, 306 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: it's available peytstatemterial dot com. Those are moving very well 307 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: this week, and I appreciate you guys. 308 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: For that very well. 309 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: All Right, so we're going to talk about this in 310 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: the second I got listen when Kublick joins the show. 311 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: Later we're gonna go pretty in depth on whether or 312 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: not just Florida could beat Georgia. But can Missouri get him? 313 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: Can Ole miss get him? Can Tennessee get him? I 314 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: think Georgia folks know that they've got a challenging stretch ahead. 315 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: They still fully intend to be in Atlanta, Georgia come December. 316 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: I think BAMA fans feel that way. 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It's time 341 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: to break out the old upset alert meter. 342 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: Scale of one to ten. 343 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: How concerned am I for the favorites in these games? 344 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: And we'll talk about the game we're going to be 345 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: at Florida, Georgia. We did the full game breakdown. It's 346 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: available on the channel if you want it. But I'm thinking, 347 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: what path does Florida have, Like what has to happen 348 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: for them to win this game? The thing about rivalry 349 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: games is it's not that there are never upsets, but 350 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: the path to winning a rivalry game rarely includes your 351 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: opponent overlooking you or your opponent not being up for you, 352 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: which is the case in some other weeks. But rivalry games, 353 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: you at least assume both teams are up, both teams 354 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: are fully focused. So if you win, probably due to 355 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: other reasons. So if Florida wins this thing, Graham Mertz 356 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: goes off, or maybe Georgia really can't operate like they're 357 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: very confident they can, and I promise you very confident 358 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: they can without brock Bowers. They didn't take a lead 359 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: until the fourth quarter of the Auburn game. South Carolina 360 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: let them fourteen to three at the half. They didn't 361 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: pull away from Vandy last week. Now, Georgia fans have 362 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 2: reasons they could give you for all that, and maybe 363 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: they're all valid. I'm just saying, once you start to 364 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: get a body of work, and I can look in 365 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: poke holes here, here, here, and here. If I'm looking 366 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: for an upset, that's all I got. What else am 367 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: I going to do? Am I going to tap Florida 368 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: losing to Utah early in the year, getting spanked by Kentucky. No, 369 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: I'm looking at their winn against South Carolina, looking at 370 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: the fact they won against Tennessee at home, and then 371 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: I can nitpick Georgia Florida last two games thirty eight 372 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: points forty one points. So anyway, the line on this 373 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: thing at FanDuel is fourteen and a half. My concern 374 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: my upset meters at about a six on this game 375 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: because I think Carson Beck is going to play or 376 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to play at the highest level he's 377 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: played at all year. They're going to put him in 378 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: position to George is not going down to Jacksonville to 379 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: hide Carson Beck. 380 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: I can promise you that. 381 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: And so whether they win and lose, it'll largely be 382 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: on the shoulders of Carson Beck. But I also think 383 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: they feel like they've got guys on that roster, receivers 384 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: and elsewhere to more than make up for the slack 385 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: that brought Bowers leaves. If they don't, Florida will end 386 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: up being right in this game at the end of 387 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. And I think Florida can be competitive anyway. 388 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: I don't think this is going to be a blowout, 389 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: but I am I'm putting about a six and a 390 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: half on the upset alert meter there. What about this 391 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 2: game in Lawrence, Kansas? What about Oklahoma going on the road. 392 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 2: They got bedlam in two weeks, They got Oklahoma State 393 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: last one for the foreseeable future in two weeks. But 394 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: now they're a nine and a half point favorite on 395 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: the road at Kansas. Their last two games, obviously they 396 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: beat Texas by four. They had to come and beat 397 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 2: I think they came from behind. Did they come from 398 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: behind with the UCF game they beat them by two. 399 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: No, I don't think they came from behind. They beat 400 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: them by two. 401 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: They had a bye weekend between there, so at least 402 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 2: lately hadn't exactly been pulling away from teams. Are they 403 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: going to pull away from Kansas? We know that Jalen 404 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: Daniels is not starting at co uarterback for them. Oklahoma's 405 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: allowing the fewest points per game that that program has 406 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: allowed in the last twenty seasons. So we asked all 407 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: spring summer, is Brita Vinible's defense really going to be 408 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: brit Vinible's defense? Yeah, yes it is. They've held the 409 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: opponent under four hundred yards and six of seven games. 410 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: So if they score early, if it looks like they're 411 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: clicking offensively, you may be in for a long day. 412 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: Kansas was minus two turnovers last week, and sometimes, as 413 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: you know with that whole Clemson Miami dynamic a couple 414 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: of weeks ago, that may set you up for a 415 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: very disproportionately tilted result the following week. If they come home, 416 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: where they have they've been pretty good at home. Oklahoma 417 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: has lost five of their last seven in Big Twelve play, 418 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: on the road and they invert the turnover dynamic. That's 419 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: how you get the upset here. My nervousness, my upset 420 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 2: meter level is also at a six and a half 421 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: for this game. I lean Oklahoma solid, but six and 422 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: a half, anything can happen up there. Brigham Young is 423 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: at Texas. 424 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: No one's talking about this. 425 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: You're actually talking about the Texas quarterback situation more than 426 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: the game itself this weekend. You're talking about the fact 427 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 2: that Malik Murphy looks like he's gonna start more than 428 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: who he's going to start against, and for a decent reason, 429 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: Brigham Young hasn't done. 430 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: A whole lot this year. To catch your eye. 431 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 2: This is a four on the upset alert meter for me. 432 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 2: I think it would be more vulnerable a spot for 433 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: Texas had they not struggled last week. But they almost 434 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 2: got beat by Houston last week. So quinn Ewers goes down, 435 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 2: they almost get beat. That grabs your attention, is what 436 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: it does. So you come home and I can guarantee 437 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: that coaching staff's dialed in because they know they got 438 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: one more game to get things right with their backup 439 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: before Kansas State comes to town. And a rejuvenated Kansas State, 440 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: might I add comes to town. 441 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: So I'm going to. 442 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 2: Four on the upset alert meter here. The other thing is, 443 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 2: for all the talk about the quarterback position, there are 444 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: some other things that haven't felt quite right with Texas 445 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: that they've done some different stuff in the secondary a 446 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: little bit softer. They've struggled with health at their pass rush, 447 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: and so if those dynamics are still a problem and. 448 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, Malik Murphy. 449 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: Just plays average or struggles with turnovers, and you let 450 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: Byu come in there, Keaton Slovas just needs one game, 451 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: just needs to perform at a high level one game. 452 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: If you can't get home and you can't affect him, 453 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 2: He's got the arm talent. If you're giving them what 454 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: Texas has been given in the secondary, they can make 455 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: enough plays. They got good enough players to keep it 456 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: well within eighteen and a half. 457 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put. 458 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: A four on it and keep a close eye. Ohio 459 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: State at Wisconsin. Yes, they're gonna play a game this week. 460 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: No, you're not. 461 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: Just gonna get to sit at home Saturday and scan 462 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: your message board if you're an Ohio State fan and 463 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: look for updates on Michigan. There actually is a game 464 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: against a fairly formidable opponent and especially a formidable head 465 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: coach in Luke Fickele. This week, Ohio State is a 466 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: fourteen and a half point favorite at FanDuel. 467 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: Right now. 468 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: At FanDuel, they are the second odds on favorite to 469 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: win the Big Ten right now, behind Michigan. Wisconsin, for 470 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: the record, is number three, albeit a distant three, but 471 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 2: Wisconsin is still the next team up there. Ohio State 472 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: has thirty five straight wins against unranked opponents. I don't 473 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: have JP Pole data because it doesn't go back that 474 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: for them. The thing about Ohio State that gives me 475 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: a lot more confidence is I fully think they could 476 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: go score twenty three points and win this game. 477 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: That may be enough. 478 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: So my upset alert meters at a five because I 479 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 2: worry about distraction. They may not be distracted at all, 480 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: they may be totally locked in focused, But this Michigan 481 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: thing has sucked a lot of oxygen out of the 482 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: room up in the Big Ten, and players care about it, 483 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 2: even though they say they don't. Coaches absolutely care about it, 484 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: and they won't even say they don't. They're not lying 485 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: about it. 486 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: They do care about it. Are they locked in? They're 487 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: locked in? 488 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 2: They should be okay here, slug fest of a game. 489 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: Braydon Locke at quarterback for Wisconsin's not my focus here. 490 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: He needs to not lose that game for them. But 491 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: Braylen Allen's got to just have a lion's performance at 492 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: running back and Wisconsin's got to step up. They got 493 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: five passing touchdowns this year. That's the fewest in FBS, 494 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: so quarterback is probably not going to be where it's at. Turnovers, 495 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: really ugly game. Run the ball, do really well in 496 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: the red zone offensively, keep them out of the end 497 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: zone defensively, and let. 498 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: The chips fall where they may. I'm putting a five 499 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: on the Upset Alert meter for that game. 500 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: I read you a lot of odds there, some of you, 501 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: in fact, the closer we get to every weekend, many 502 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 2: of you hit me up and you'll say, where can 503 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: I go to bet? 504 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: I want to bet some of these games. 505 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: So I'm always careful with my advice, even as fan 506 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: Duel has partnered with us. 507 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: I always tell you be. 508 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: Smart about it, and I always tell you make sure 509 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: you're not putting anything in that account you can't afford 510 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: to lose. 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Iowa State plus one and a half. 560 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: That number has been all over the place right now. 561 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: I think as of about two hours ago I saw 562 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: it at FanDuel, Iowa State was minus two and a half. 563 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: We locked it in on Sunday. It's important to watch 564 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 2: every show. Coastal Carolina plus three and a half. We 565 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 2: also locked in on Sunday. I didn't give you anything 566 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: on Tuesday. I got three of them for you tonight, 567 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 2: and we'll have several more tomorrow night. So first one 568 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: up Miami of Ohio. We are taking them plus seven 569 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: and a half widely available, including a FanDuel Tennessee minus 570 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: three and a half. They're playing Kentucky at Kentucky. We 571 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: got Tennessee by eight. Something has to give there, and 572 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: North Texas plus seven and a half. So a couple 573 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: of favorable numbers there with the dogs. Now, remember, as 574 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: Colin takes this full screen so everyone can see it, 575 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: remember that is not complete. I don't know how much 576 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 2: I have to stress this. A lot of people don't 577 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 2: tune into Friday Night Lines and they think that's it 578 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: right there, that's a good starter for us. Sometimes I 579 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: add half a dozen more games on Friday Night Lines 580 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: at Late Kick Josh. It's as simple as that. Follow 581 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: on Instagram. You'll see when I go live on Friday nights. 582 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: I give you heads up about an hour beforehand, so 583 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: you know exactly what time to be there. I'm usually 584 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 2: about a minute late grace period. So there you see it. 585 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: Friday Night Lines Tomorrow night at Late Kick Josh. Make 586 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: sure you follow on Instagram. And now look who's showed 587 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: back up on our doorstep child in hand to Garner's sympathy. 588 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: It's coal Come Cubic. Col Kubrick is back on the show. 589 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: Cole Cut's still a thing. You haven't been here in 590 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: the better part of a month. 591 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: What do you have to say for yourself? 592 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 3: Negotiations obviously went well first and foremost, so thank you 593 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: to your team for that. And then don't have a 594 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: Wednesday night game, so that also helps. How many flying 595 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: back from El Paso or Miami? 596 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: How many cities? How many airports did you keep count? 597 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 3: We were in fifteen days? We had eleven airports and 598 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: we flew on eleven of fifteen days. The amount of airports, 599 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: I think that was also eleven. I'm a humer. 600 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: Since sure, what is what is El Paso Airport? 601 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: Like in October? 602 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: Halloween decorations by the way, like life sized Staypuff, marshamallow 603 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 3: Man inflatable, which was great, more than I expected. I'll 604 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 3: say that people of El Paso fantastic sun Bowl mark 605 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: it off the list places I had wanted to visit. 606 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: Good. We'll talk about that. 607 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: Thumbs up. 608 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk about that later. Actually, all right, so 609 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: you won't say sun Bull all right? 610 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: So we got like a backlog, so we just need 611 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: to start firing them off. What have you come to 612 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: the table with tonight? 613 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: Well, first off, Brendan Walker wanted to say hello to 614 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: you down to El Barrio, Not Brandon, not not no, 615 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 3: not Brandon. 616 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: Oh. 617 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 3: Brendan Walker, server at El Barrio downtown Birmingham, approached my 618 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: wife and I the other night. 619 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 4: Big fan of the show. So I just want to 620 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 4: give him a shout out. 621 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Son, I have had. 622 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: Like fifty of those the last two weeks, of all 623 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 3: the games I've been at. No one knows me for 624 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: Cube Show anymore. No one knows me for Macelroy Cubic 625 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: in the morning. 626 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: Paige, stay, hey, what is what is? 627 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: It was not on anymore? 628 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: So what is Cube Show? Remind me again? 629 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: What is? 630 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: Remind the people what that is? 631 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: It's you don't even need to know that. What you 632 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 3: need to know is there's a guy out there that 633 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: does this podcast. That's what you need to know. 634 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: Thank you and maybe you'll find it, maybe you won't. 635 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: That's really it. 636 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: Well, Brendan redeemable human being, pay State Golf clap for you. Okay, Now, 637 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: with the pleasantries out of the way, what have you 638 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: brought to the table tonight? 639 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 3: All right, first thing I want to start off with 640 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 3: is I was going to go JP pole here, but 641 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 3: then I saw it and I said, we can't actually 642 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: reference that because that is garbage. 643 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 4: So we're going to go the AP pole. 644 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: And yeah, some of the team I don't even if 645 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: you want to excuse it based on your mathematicians that 646 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: are putting that together, that's great, but it's some of 647 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: it's inexcusable. The lowest ranked AP team you still think 648 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: can win a national championship. That's what I want to 649 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: start with for you today. 650 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: Well, first off, it's the model, it's not me. 651 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: Secondly, I had to pull the AP pole up, and 652 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: I think even if you went JP or AP pole, 653 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: I think the answer is the same team. So right now, 654 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: in the JP pole, I got North Carolina twentieth, which 655 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: admittedly I think is a little bit low. The AP 656 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: has North Carolina at seventeen. North Carolina can still win 657 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: a title. Not that I'm favoring them, they legitimately can 658 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: do that. They have a strong enough quarterback, They've fortified 659 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: their lines of scrimmage enough so they could be in 660 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: this picture below them. What am I looking at? USC's 661 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: got two losses, they're not going to win a title 662 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: this year. And I don't know air Force. I mean, 663 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: do we take air Force seriously in the national title conversation. 664 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: I don't salute air Force. 665 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't. So I'm going to North Carolina. 666 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: I love the fact that Drake May could get there 667 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 3: and potentially take over a couple of games. I like 668 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: their schedule the rest of way. Yes, they're at but 669 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: I think it's more than manageable. I think they have 670 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 3: Campbell up next, so they can absolutely get there with 671 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: what's ahead of them. What the ACC is. I still 672 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 3: just think lack of balance in the defense, not on 673 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: part of where it needs to be to win two 674 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: of those games. Get there, yes, win two. No, So 675 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna stop at fifteen and say LSU maybe the 676 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: most dynamic offense in the country. I would have to 677 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: have gone sixteen in say Missouri. I just feel like 678 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 3: there's a little something missing with Missouri right now. If 679 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 3: we're telling I win a national title. Brady Cook hasn't 680 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: been as good the last couple of weeks. I love 681 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: the run game, they get, the stretch play going. The 682 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: offensive line is playing good football. Armand Membu at right tackle. 683 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: By the way, you guys need to watch him. He's 684 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: a lot of fun to watch, the national championship caliber, 685 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: takeover receiver, disruptive d line. Like I said, there's a 686 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 3: lot to like LSU another world offensively and maybe going 687 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: more and even front bringing Pete Jenkins in not being 688 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: the yard off the football. Maybe some of that stuff 689 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: works for that defense and that can actually just be 690 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: enough for them if they were to get to that spot. 691 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: They have some heavy listening to do still on the schedule, 692 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 3: But I'll stop at fifteen and say Lsu, well, that's wild. 693 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: The AP has Lsu at fifteen while the jppole has 694 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: him at eight. It's almost like one group of mathematicians 695 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: knows what they're talking about and another group's just sports 696 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: writers who wrote Lsu off a month ago. That's what 697 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: it sounds like to me, and I'm unbiased. I have 698 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: no dog in the fight here obviously, other than one 699 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 2: poles named after me. Yeah, you know what's gonna be fun? 700 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 4: By the way, saying at fifteen also, which is completely. 701 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: Hey, but I got odds makers backing me up on this. 702 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: You will see in the coming weeks you will see, Hey, 703 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 2: you know what's gonna be fun for everyone outside of Tuscaloosa. 704 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 2: If LSU beat Spama next week, all of a sudden, 705 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: people are gonna have. 706 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: To That won't be fun for people in Testine. 707 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:20,959 Speaker 1: No, it won't. 708 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 3: It won't. 709 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: So Abner from Abbaville will take it very tough. But 710 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: if they do that, they're actually in the playoff conversation, 711 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: and no one realizes that because they're a two loss team. 712 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: But if they don't lose again, that includes wins in Tuscaloosa, 713 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: they got to beat JP Top fifteen, Texas A and M, 714 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 2: they will have beaten whoever hoops to ever Georgia maybe 715 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 2: in Atlanta. That's a playoff resume, especially when one of 716 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: your losses is to Florida State, Like, that's a playoff resume, 717 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 2: and your other losses to who ole miss Ole miss 718 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: is top twenty five by any discernible metric. I don't 719 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 2: think people realize that because they just assume Bama is 720 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: gonna beat them. Oh, by the way, the line on 721 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 2: that thing's four and a half right now. 722 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think resume versus ranking JP poll N A 723 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 3: P Pole is way out of whack. I think Oregon 724 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 3: State's resume is better than people give it credit. For 725 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: I think Utah's resume is better than people I think 726 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 3: the old Miss resume is actually a little bit better 727 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 3: than people give it credit for. There's a couple of 728 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 3: wins on there, like two Lane on the Road that 729 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: no one's gonna say is a good win, but I 730 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: actually believe that it is. I think Louisville has a 731 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 3: better resume than a lot of people are gonna give 732 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 3: them credit for. So there's still a lot of that. 733 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 3: And listen, it's always gonna happen, the brand recognition and 734 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: the logo that's gonna put teams further ahead of maybe 735 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 3: where they should be. But the good news is a 736 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: lot of these teams are gonna play each other down 737 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 3: the stretch. We got awesome football coming up the next 738 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 3: couple of weeks, yep. 739 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 2: Which brings me to my next point. You know the 740 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: Georgia Bulldogs right now undefeated, and I don't know if 741 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: you've heard, but they're defending champs as if you could 742 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: take it from them. So what is what is the 743 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 2: biggest threat? Are you of the opinion that Georgia's the 744 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: biggest threat to Georgia or you look at the schedule 745 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: and say, ooh, we got Florida and Missouri and Ole 746 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: miss and Tennessee back to back to back to back. 747 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: Maybe not quite the glorified high school schedule that people 748 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: said it was in July. 749 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: What's the biggest thread here. 750 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 3: It's a totally different schedule when you look at the 751 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 3: back half now. Is when you and I sat here 752 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season, Because at that point 753 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 3: we looked at it and said, wow, they can go 754 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 3: cruise control and then literally just take their hands off 755 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 3: the steering wheel for the second half of the season. 756 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 3: They don't even need cruise control. They don't even need 757 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: a tesla to have the autopilot. They'll just be fine 758 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 3: to the back half of that schedule. And now you 759 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 3: look at it and it's very different. Florida is a team. 760 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 3: I do think they can post some challenges. I don't 761 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 3: really like Florida overall in the matchup to be extremely 762 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 3: problematic Missouri some of the things that we just spoke about. 763 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 3: You give me a disruptive defensive line, a quarterback playing 764 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 3: good football, I can make a case for you to 765 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 3: be in a lot of games. Missouri's going to bring 766 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 3: that in a little bit more like an offensive coordinator 767 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 3: that knows how to move his pieces around and put 768 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 3: them in good spots with yards after the catch guys 769 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 3: and fifty to fifty ball guys, which that can be 770 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 3: a little bit problematic against any secondary. 771 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 4: But I think right now it's Old Miss. 772 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 3: And before the season that was very hard to believe 773 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 3: because we thought we would be going into this stretch 774 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 3: of the season and Old Miss would be so beat 775 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 3: up and have no depth left over and they'd be 776 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 3: hanging on by a thread. But it actually worked in reverse, 777 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: where Old Miss was beat up the first three or 778 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 3: four weeks of the season and now they're actually getting 779 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 3: some guys healthy. Would I like this match up a 780 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 3: lot more if we had a healthy, capable, desirable or 781 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 3: I guess I should say with desire Michael Trigg on 782 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 3: the field, yes I would. But with Caden Prescorn healthy, 783 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 3: with that young man right there, Trey Harris healthy, And 784 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 3: it looks like now the run game's starting to get 785 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 3: going a little bit with Quinn Shawn Jenkins and Ulysses Bentley, 786 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 3: who no one talks about, who I actually think is 787 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,439 Speaker 3: a legitimate weapon for that Old Miss offense. The way 788 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 3: that Jackson Dart's making plays, the way he can run 789 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 3: the football by design, leave the pocket, keep his eye field, 790 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: still make plays. I just think the way they can 791 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 3: move the pieces, utilize tempo, and be able to spread 792 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 3: defenses out and then try to attack you different ways. 793 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 3: That defense is better than it's been. It's actually physically 794 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 3: capable upfront, which has not been for a long time. 795 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 3: They're better off the edge of getting to the quarterback 796 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 3: that they've been in a while. And as of right 797 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 3: now today there is no brock Bowers and Georgia has 798 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 3: some offensive line. I'm just gonna say mild concerns. It's 799 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 3: not a problem. I'm gonna say mild concerns, and Pete 800 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,959 Speaker 3: Me may go in there and just go attack mode 801 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 3: against that offensive line. So I think with the way 802 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 3: Lane can dial it up the weaponry that they have, 803 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 3: it's Old Miss that's the most problematic team left on 804 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 3: the schedule. Now. I know there are certain other broadcasts 805 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 3: out there that are gonna take this and say that 806 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 3: I picked Old Miss to beat Georgia. 807 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 2: Well you just did, That's exactly what I just heard. 808 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 3: In the SEC championship game, and then beat them by 809 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 3: seventy the next time they play. But all I'm saying 810 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 3: is I think that is the most problematic team left 811 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 3: for Georgia on the schedule. You know. 812 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 2: The other thing I always think about it if a 813 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 2: team loses a big time player. They just lost brock Bowers. 814 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 2: He won't be back in all likelihood for any of 815 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 2: these games. They're gonna play Florida this weekend. You kind 816 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 2: of have questions like, how will Mike Bobo and his 817 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 2: offensive staff go about things without him? But it's still 818 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 2: in future tense, all right, So then you'll see what 819 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 2: they choose to do against Florida by the point this 820 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 2: game's played. And I agree with you, it's old miss 821 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: by the way, So by the time that game's played, 822 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 2: you'll see him against Florida, you'll see him against Missouri. 823 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 2: So you'll have eight quarters minimum sample size of trying 824 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 2: to get a feel for what they do. Who's emerging? 825 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 2: Is anyone emerging? And so I also think folks get 826 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 2: fooled a lot when they just look back at a 827 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 2: body of work. So ole miss right now, they got 828 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: some close games they've played, especially earlier in the year, 829 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: and that Tulane game was without Pratt at quarterback. So 830 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 2: that's why people dismissed that one. I think, but people 831 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 2: look at it and they don't really connect that Ole 832 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 2: Miss was less healthy in the beginning than they actually 833 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: will be now because it's so counterintuitive to the way 834 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 2: ball normally happens. But it doesn't matter what you've done, 835 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 2: it's just that, like one Saturday, if everything comes together, 836 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: sort of deal. But also, I think the totality of 837 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 2: this stretch just what I focus on. It's such a 838 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 2: cop out answer, but it could very well be that 839 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 2: Ole Miss finds success because of what Missouri put on you, 840 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 2: or it could be that Tennessee bites you because of 841 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 2: what the combination of Missouri and Ole Miss put on you. 842 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 843 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 2: Man, Like, if you had to bet right now, if 844 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 2: it's a fifty to fifty proposition or whatever Georgia over 845 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 2: under zero point five loss is through this coming four 846 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 2: or five game stretch, what would you take? 847 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 3: I would bet the under. Still, because we can sit 848 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 3: here and talk about in Missouri, we can talk Florida, 849 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 3: we can talk Old Miss, we can talk Tennessee. And 850 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 3: I can give you more concernable items for those teams 851 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 3: than I can give you from Georgia. And when you're 852 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 3: just going through the situation there no brock Bauers having 853 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 3: eight quarters when Pete Goldie's gonna have to find a 854 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 3: way to defend that offense. 855 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 4: The first thing that popped into my brain is, wow, Josh, 856 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 4: what's gonna blow up in our. 857 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 3: Face is they're gonna get eight quarters down the road, 858 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 3: then they're gonna get brock Bowers. 859 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 4: And they're gonna know how to live without him. 860 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 3: But now they actually have him, So then how do 861 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 3: you defend it when they're pretty good not having him 862 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 3: on the field, But then they can add him to 863 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 3: whatever they've been doing for the last eight ten quarters, 864 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 3: whatever that is. So I actually don't think that any 865 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 3: of those teams gets it done. I think they can 866 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 3: be competitive, I think they can make it close. I 867 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 3: think they can make it fun. But at the end, 868 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 3: I'm just not gonna go against Georgia with everything that 869 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 3: they've showed us and the other places that they're gonna 870 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 3: be able to go. Like, I think Edwards is fine 871 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 3: being a tailback. They can get the ball twenty five 872 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 3: thirty times a game. Roy Ron Thomas has come on, 873 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 3: We've seen Rosemary Jack saying do some different things. Obviously 874 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 3: Dominic Lovett in the slot. They have other weapons they 875 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 3: can rely on, and Carson Beck's playing great. So I 876 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 3: just have more concerns about the other teams than I 877 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 3: do with Georgia. 878 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too this weekend. 879 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 2: I know internally they got a ton of confidence in 880 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 2: just Beck being the guy who steps up in the 881 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 2: absence of Brock Bowers. 882 00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 883 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: I think I fall lightly towards the over. I think 884 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 2: somewhere in that four game stretch there's a loss. I 885 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 2: just don't think there's any skill in choosing who it is. 886 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: So again, I am. 887 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 3: Also keep in mind, Kirby Smart convinced that football team 888 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 3: last year that they were going to lose. 889 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 4: For that people thought they were going to lose four 890 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 4: or five games. 891 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 3: So having him convinced that team that people think they're 892 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 3: going to lose every one of these games is probable. 893 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, especially when you got folks like you choose 894 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 2: an old miss to beat them by fifty. So hey, 895 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: how about this, how about this whole deal with Caleb Williams, 896 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 2: so USC, Yet USC goes and loses a game and 897 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 2: then Caleb Williams says nothing about quitting or mailing it 898 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 2: in the rest of the season, and then we got folks, 899 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 2: full grown adults who have actually played this game before, 900 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 2: who now make a living talking about it, suggesting things 901 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 2: like he should quit, he shouldn't play anymore. Love that 902 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 2: competitive spirit. By the way, Caleb Williams since then has 903 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 2: come out via the La Times and said, no, I'm 904 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 2: gonna keep. 905 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 1: Playing, man, We got to keep fighting. That's what you do. 906 00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm a competitor. 907 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 2: Soilliams having the audacity to continue to play an organized 908 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 2: sport that he committed himself to. What did you think 909 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 2: about this whole ordeal? Because I had a lot of 910 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 2: thoughts the other night. 911 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 3: I think we were all reaching our boiling point when 912 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 3: Acho tweeted out the other night. And I know Emmanuel, 913 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 3: so I don't really care, and he knows I would 914 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 3: disagree with this, and that's fine. So I don't really care. 915 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 3: And he can think what he thinks, and I'm going 916 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 3: to think what I think, and you're going to think 917 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 3: what you think. 918 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 4: And we're pretty much aligned on this. 919 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: But there's so much of it that gets lost in 920 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 3: the mix of suggesting what one individual should do, first off, 921 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 3: not even knowing what that individual wants to do. At 922 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 3: the very base of this. On the on the bottom floor, 923 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 3: like the not we haven't even started to, you know, 924 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 3: put the cinderblocks down, like just the dirt that we 925 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 3: have smoothed over. Playing college football in general is really 926 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,720 Speaker 3: ear Muff's fun all right now, Imagine playing college football. 927 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 3: I can guarantee you it's a lot out of fun. 928 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 3: It's really fun. Imagine being the best at what you 929 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 3: do and then playing college football and being at the 930 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 3: epicenter of media and entertainment on planet Earth. 931 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 4: How much fun that would be. 932 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 3: So to think that a twenty one, twenty two to 933 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 3: twenty three year old kid would just say, yeah, you 934 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 3: know what, I'm going to pass on that fun. I 935 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 3: don't't think I want to be a part of that anymore. 936 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 3: Why would I do that? And to say that not 937 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 3: winning a Heisman Trophy or a national championship is a 938 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 3: part of not dressing out and playing anymore? How many 939 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 3: football players would have actually ever put a uniform on 940 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 3: this season? Twenty percent max max maybe more like sixteen 941 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 3: fourteen percent ever even dresses out for a game. And 942 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 3: then fast forward to where we are right now. You 943 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 3: and I just went through a couple title contenders, some 944 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,359 Speaker 3: ranked a little lower than maybe other people will give 945 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 3: them a chance. For how many kids are dressing out 946 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 3: this week, three teams, five teams, eight teams. We can't 947 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 3: just have winning a Heisman or winning a national championship 948 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 3: be the only thing that we play for. The other 949 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 3: part that really bothered me is when we begin to 950 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 3: have these discussions about value and earning potential and what's 951 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 3: in front of you. Because I played offensive line in college, 952 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 3: and if I would have had a quarterback that had 953 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 3: a chance to go on and earn money in the NFL, 954 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 3: I would have felt like that myself and Mike Pacillo 955 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 3: and Hart McGarry and Kendall Simmons, we have a little 956 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 3: hand in that value. And what if we were the 957 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 3: ones that were going to be just scratching and calling 958 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 3: to go try to make a practice squad. Does our 959 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 3: film look better with Caleb Williams or does our film 960 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 3: look better with second third, fourth string quarterback whoever the 961 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 3: hell else is going to be thrown in there? Probably 962 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 3: looks a lot better with the guy that we know 963 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 3: can direct the offense at an elite level. So why 964 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 3: should he not help us increase our value if that's 965 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 3: the direction we're going, which I never cared about it 966 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 3: that much because I didn't think I had a whole 967 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 3: lot of value as a college football player, but I 968 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 3: would have loved to have helped my guys had the 969 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 3: most value possible. But I would also like to think 970 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 3: that they would like to help us out down the 971 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 3: road when we had helped them create whatever value that 972 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 3: that is. So it's the ultimate team sport and the 973 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 3: individual side of this that we've decided to lean on 974 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 3: and talk about and be the only thing that we 975 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 3: care about. It's disgusting, to be quite honest with you, 976 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 3: because it's not why any of us ever go into it. 977 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 3: And then we could even keep going further down the 978 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 3: road of Now I've seen him on Heisman House commercials, 979 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 3: I've seen him in the Doctor Pepper commercials. I've seen 980 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 3: him doing other things. You got those deals because you 981 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 3: play college football, right, Yeah, so you're just gonna say, 982 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 3: don't care about that. Yeah, I don't owe you anything. 983 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 3: It's gonna go do me and we're gonna move on. 984 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 3: So I'm proud of him for taking the stance that 985 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 3: he did and saying the things that he did. But 986 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 3: the suggestions are not gonna stop, Josh. 987 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 4: It's not just gonna be him. 988 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 3: We're gonna have more guys that are playing at an 989 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 3: elite level that have a chance to go make a 990 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 3: lot of money. The Bowl games are one thing, but 991 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 3: we knew this day was coming. And we are nearing 992 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 3: a point when player on relevant team that cannot win 993 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 3: a conference or national title. I mean, I'll be we've 994 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 3: already had it. We just haven't heard it this way. 995 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 3: We've already had had and there are some that are 996 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 3: still discussing it right now. But there's gonna be a 997 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 3: kid that comes out and just says, I'm about to 998 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,919 Speaker 3: make too much money. Man, I'm not wasting my time 999 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 3: with these guys anymore. Sorry, And they're gonna go start 1000 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 3: you know, they're gonna go to Exos or whatever it 1001 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 3: is and start getting ready for the draft. 1002 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the other fun part. Not fun, but fun 1003 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 2: in a not fun way. And follow me here. So 1004 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 2: if you want to talk value, I will throw up 1005 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 2: in my mouth. But you want to start talking value, 1006 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 2: and you want to start saying, well, now that he 1007 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 2: can't win a Heisman or now that he can't win 1008 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 2: a national title, it doesn't make financial sense business decision. 1009 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 2: And my question would be, if you're telling me Caleb 1010 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 2: Williams is in line to make nine figure money in 1011 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 2: the NFL, which he is over the span of his career, 1012 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 2: So let's just put the number at a quarter billion 1013 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 2: dollars he could end up making. Well, why did he play, period? 1014 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 2: Why play your junior year period? I had folks telling 1015 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 2: me we all heard the mock draft community telling us 1016 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 2: he would have gone number one overall in the draft 1017 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 2: of last year if he can't out. So we'd already 1018 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 2: crystallized as value, so to speak. A Heisman trophy is 1019 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 2: not worth a quarter billion dollars, so why chase it 1020 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 2: to begin with? A national title is not worth half 1021 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 2: a billion dollars? Why chase it to begin with? So 1022 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 2: I'd love to know where that imaginary line in the 1023 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 2: sand is, like, Well, it doesn't make sense financially after 1024 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 2: you decide you can't win a Heisman or a national title. 1025 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 2: Neither of those things is worth the kind of money 1026 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 2: you're talking about to begin with. The way I view 1027 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 2: it is, everything about this is born out of competition, 1028 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 2: Like everything about how much money you can make, everything 1029 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 2: about the fun you. 1030 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: Have, the brand you have. 1031 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 2: All that is a branch or branches off the tree 1032 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 2: of competition. Without competition, you have none of it. That's 1033 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,720 Speaker 2: what it all grows from. And so if you start 1034 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 2: talking about keeping the branches but sacrificing the tree, meml 1035 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 2: was an excellent gardener. Okay, by the time I was 1036 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 2: four years old, I knew you couldn't have one without 1037 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 2: the other. And so you may say, well, just that 1038 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 2: sounds good, But of course Caleb Williams could forego his 1039 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 2: senior season or junior season and make it in the NFL. 1040 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 2: It's not really what I'm saying. What I'm saying is 1041 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 2: you reveal something about yourself which he hasn't like. To 1042 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 2: be clear, he's choosing to play. But in the future 1043 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 2: we will have high profile players then end up opting out. 1044 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what contributes to it. Same thing 1045 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 2: that contributed to bowl opt outs when we instituted a 1046 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 2: college football playoff that wasn't when the opt outs started happening. 1047 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 2: The opt out started happening after the adults in the 1048 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 2: room and microphones in front of them talking for a 1049 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 2: living started saying things like meaningless bowl games, and they 1050 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 2: started labeling any bowl game that wasn't part of the 1051 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 2: college football playoff as meaningless and all of a sudden, 1052 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 2: the Leonard Fournettes of the world hear that for two 1053 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 2: or three years and say, if it's meaningless and I'm 1054 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 2: in line to make millions, why would I play. That's 1055 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 2: why I never got mad at the kids for opting out. 1056 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 2: I got mad at the adults for setting the precedent 1057 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 2: to call the bowl game meaningless. Like it's not like 1058 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 2: God invented college football or bowl games. 1059 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: Man invented them. 1060 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 2: Therefore man has to apply the value on them, and 1061 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 2: we all have agree to it. If some of us 1062 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 2: start saying, actually, this thing we've played for a long 1063 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 2: time no more value, why would you get mad at 1064 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 2: the players for accepting what the adults in the room 1065 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 2: are saying. So that's why I get worked up when 1066 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 2: people who are paid to cover this sport start advising 1067 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,479 Speaker 2: people not to play the sport they're paid to cover. 1068 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: I hope I haven't been unclear there. Let's move it. 1069 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 3: On, almost almost like professionals who have moved on from 1070 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 3: being college basketball players that made their name and made 1071 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,280 Speaker 3: their money by being great in the NCAA tournament asking 1072 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 3: current players to sit out sat in Cuba Teo. Yeah, yeah, 1073 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 3: that makes a lot of sense. 1074 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that sort of thing. 1075 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 2: Uh, where do we want to go? Okay, so I 1076 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 2: have been Let's see this year alone, I've been to 1077 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 2: Husky Stadium, never been there before, will go back. 1078 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: Awesome place. 1079 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 2: I in the last couple of years got to go 1080 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 2: to the Cotton Bowl for the first time Missouri this 1081 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 2: year I went to for the first time. So I've 1082 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 2: been to a lot of places that I had previously 1083 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 2: never been. You cover games every Saturday night, but it's 1084 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 2: a lot of the same place. This is because you're 1085 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 2: working for SEC network. You played in some places out 1086 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 2: of conference, but by and large you've lived an SEC 1087 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,839 Speaker 2: life because it just means more to you. Where are 1088 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 2: the places? What are the stadiums you haven't been to 1089 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 2: that you have on the bucket list? Because we know 1090 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 2: UTEP is no longer one of them, So we crossed 1091 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 2: the sun Ball off the list. 1092 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 3: And it was beautiful by the way. I would put 1093 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 3: it up there with Logan, Utah and Utah State. I 1094 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 3: would put up there with Provo that I've also been 1095 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 3: to in the Rose Bowl of just some of the 1096 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,720 Speaker 3: most picturesque settings. 1097 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 4: You will ever get at a college football stadium. 1098 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 3: I have a lot on my list I really do, 1099 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 3: And like you said, I've been pretty much focused in 1100 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 3: the southeastern portion of the United States, but I do 1101 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 3: have a couple that are towards the top of my 1102 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 3: list you just mentioned one. Number three on my list 1103 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 3: would be Husky Stadium. That setting with Seattle way back 1104 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 3: in the background on the water. It looks immaculine. And 1105 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 3: I've since I watched Steve Impman as a young defensive 1106 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 3: lineman at Homewood High School, I've just always had this 1107 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 3: little different sort of a love for Washington foot But 1108 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 3: I would love to go to a game there. And 1109 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,240 Speaker 3: I remember I covered one of Jacob Easton's high school 1110 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 3: games and just the whole area is just so cool 1111 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 3: to be there in his high school, like stadium was 1112 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 3: like up on this little mountain and it is really cool. 1113 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 3: But anyway, Husky Stadium would be one definitely want to 1114 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 3: go to a game there. This is an easy one, 1115 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 3: the Horseshoe. I have never been to an Ohio State 1116 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 3: home game. I have been to the Big House, but 1117 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 3: not to a game there, but I have walked inside 1118 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,240 Speaker 3: the stadium. As we have to adjust our viewing schedule 1119 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 3: here for some reason, I'm not sure when I happy 1120 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 3: with what we're watching. So Ohio State home game would 1121 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 3: be another one. And I'm going to go off the 1122 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 3: radar here a little bit. But this is I'm not 1123 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 3: making a joke. This is not sarcasm. I generally am 1124 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 3: so intrigued with this. 1125 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 4: Place and how it looks, how it operates, what it is. 1126 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 4: I want to go to a game at the Kibbi Doome. 1127 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 3: I want to go to the Kibbi Doom because it 1128 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 3: looks like an airport hangar. Yeah, it looks like like 1129 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 3: somebody flies their private jet into there and parks it, 1130 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 3: or a giant barn that people park their tractors in 1131 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 3: when the season gets too cold to get outside anymore. 1132 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,800 Speaker 3: Yet they play football in this place and it looks amazing. 1133 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,439 Speaker 3: The stands are like four feet away from everything else. 1134 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 3: And that's number one on my list because it is 1135 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 3: it appears to be more unique than any other college 1136 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 3: football stadium in America. 1137 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 4: Kibby Dome number one. 1138 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 2: You know what it looks like is the Columbus Civic 1139 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 2: Center in Columbus, Georgia. The Columbus Civic Center is it's 1140 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 2: not in all the way around arena, the Baltimore Arena. 1141 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: I think is the same way. 1142 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 2: It's like it's a big wall and then kind of 1143 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,280 Speaker 2: a sea shaped seating area, and that's what the Kibbi 1144 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 2: Dome is like. So you know, Kibbi Dome, Columbus Civic Center, 1145 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 2: Baltimore Arena one and the same. Really, you know, I've 1146 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 2: never been to a game at Oklahoma hacks Hacksaw. 1147 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 3: Jim Duggan has performed in all of them. 1148 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 2: And yeah, and mister wrestler number two. Of course, I've 1149 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 2: never been to Oklahoma, never been to a game in Oklahoma, 1150 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 2: and I am fascinated by that. But when I think 1151 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 2: about it, they play Texas Neutral every year, so that 1152 00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 2: game never would have been there. 1153 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: Otherwise. 1154 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 2: They just haven't had a ton of Marquee home games 1155 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 2: since I've been doing what I've been doing, which is 1156 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 2: only the last few years. And so when they join 1157 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 2: the SEC, obviously that'll be a moot point. But I've 1158 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 2: never been to a game at Oklahoma and badly want 1159 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 2: to get over there. And another one that I don't 1160 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 2: think it's as off the radar as the Kibi Dome, 1161 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 2: but it's kind off the radar Texas Tech. I've been 1162 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 2: to Lubbock, but I've never I've never been able to 1163 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 2: go to a game there, and see, I think in Texas, 1164 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,720 Speaker 2: like high school football is obviously huge, and I've always 1165 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 2: felt like the culture at Texas Tech is kind of 1166 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 2: like a mega high school town but on steroids, because 1167 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 2: it's a full college, and I think it's so out 1168 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 2: on its own, so isolated that it's got the best 1169 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 2: aspects of a cult with none of the bad aspects. 1170 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 2: So I love a good, solid, positively cultish feeling fan 1171 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 2: base because we have it at Payton State and people 1172 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 2: accuse us of cult like behavior all the time, and 1173 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, thank you, and so I'm the same way 1174 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 2: with Texas Tech. 1175 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: I want to go out there. 1176 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,240 Speaker 3: How could you not want to? Based on the video 1177 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,800 Speaker 3: reel you were just showing. You've got Yosemite Sam dressed 1178 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 3: up running around, You've got Zoro on his horse riding around. 1179 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 3: Who doesn't want to go there? It's like Disneyland for 1180 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 3: adults basically. 1181 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,839 Speaker 2: And then and prairie dogs, which I never saw growing 1182 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 2: up in West Central Georgia. But prairie dogs are like 1183 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 2: they're squirrels. They're all over the place, and you're like, 1184 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 2: you freak out when you get off the greyhound bus. 1185 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 2: Was that a prairie dog? And they're like, yeah, that's 1186 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 2: one too, and that one and that one. So it's 1187 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 2: a great place out there, all right. 1188 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 3: But if you can name them out there, because you know, 1189 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 3: there's a squirrel running around the growth named Cole cuberlat. 1190 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 2: And those people, I'm told are thrilled about that. Do 1191 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,280 Speaker 2: you know like his whereabouts? Do they microchip those squirrels? 1192 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,879 Speaker 3: Once you name them, it can be anyone you want, 1193 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 3: So you could. 1194 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 4: There's not enough bbes on earth to get rid of 1195 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 4: Cole kubuck, the. 1196 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 2: Squirrel in the ground, not that they would ever engage 1197 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 2: in that sort of activity for lunch or dinner. Ask 1198 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 2: all you wanted to know about the whole thing we've learned. 1199 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 2: Ask this question however you want, all right. 1200 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 3: So I just think every year in college football there 1201 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 3: are big stories. There are micro stories that individually we 1202 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 3: come across. But we learn things every year. And you 1203 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 3: said earlier, you go to games, you talk to people, 1204 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 3: you come across other people, you see things. What is 1205 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 3: your favorite story or favorite thing that you have learned 1206 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,280 Speaker 3: in and around college football this season? 1207 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 2: I have learned a lesson about something that we learn 1208 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 2: in general, every year, and that is a bunch of 1209 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 2: people are gonna start saying things about the sport they 1210 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 2: know nothing about. So with the whole Michigan scandal blowing up, 1211 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 2: a lot of people have taken it upon themselves to 1212 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 2: inform me that everyone does that. And it's the same 1213 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 2: way as when in recruiting you used to have allegations 1214 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,879 Speaker 2: of impropriety, and you know, Gator fans sixty seven would 1215 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 2: hop on the message board and say everybody he does this. 1216 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 2: But if you ever pressed these people to give you 1217 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 2: specific details, how do you specifically know everyone does it? 1218 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 2: They can't because they don't have it. All it is 1219 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 2: is this is this one big giant pot of group think, 1220 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 2: which in and of itself I have no problem with. 1221 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 2: But sometimes when you pour what's in that pot out, 1222 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 2: it's just a bunch of people have said something. Like 1223 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 2: one person said something once upon a time, everyone else 1224 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 2: heard it, and so everyone accepted it is true. So 1225 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, over the past week, you got 1226 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 2: Michigan spending tens of thousands of dollars to send folks 1227 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 2: two games to record opposing teams for future use signaling. 1228 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 2: And I'm being told, well, everybody does that everybody does 1229 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 2: what everybody buys tickets to go illegally electronically surveil opposing teams. No, 1230 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 2: they don't, they absolutely don't. Josh, you're just making too 1231 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 2: big a deal out of this. I'm not investigating you, man. 1232 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 2: The private firm whomstever hired is the NCAA is. I 1233 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 2: am very curious to see how the Big ten, maybe 1234 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 2: even the playoff committee respond to this. Whatever happens, everybody 1235 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 2: doesn't do this. Just like when anything not exactly above 1236 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 2: board happens, you can't always dismiss it by saying, well, 1237 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 2: you know everybody's doing it. Everybody's not doing it. I 1238 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 2: promise you everybody is not doing it now. Whether you 1239 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 2: think it's a big deal, whether you think we should 1240 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 2: go electronic microphone in the helmet to absolve us of 1241 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 2: all this, that's fine. But the bottom line is we 1242 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 2: don't have it right now, and in the meantime you 1243 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 2: violated rules. There are people with access to grind against you. 1244 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 2: It is a witch hunt. I acknowledge all that. But 1245 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 2: if the witches find what they want to find, they're 1246 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 2: going to tie you to the stake anyway. That's what's 1247 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 2: gonna happen, and I think that's what's in the process 1248 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 2: of happening. 1249 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 3: I don't appreciate you attempting to have all of us 1250 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 3: believe that this sorcery and witchcraft surrounding college football does 1251 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 3: not really exist, because there are magical potions and there 1252 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 3: are things that happen behind the scenes. And stop trying 1253 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 3: to make us believe that this underbelly magic of college 1254 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 3: football is not a real thing. Okay, we all need 1255 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 3: to know that these are the excuses that we use 1256 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 3: for why we don't Our teams don't do what other 1257 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 3: teams everybody at least as well. 1258 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody does it. 1259 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 3: We all do. We all do. Yeah, you want mine. 1260 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: I'd love to have yours. 1261 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,880 Speaker 3: It's a little bit different this. Of course, we covered 1262 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 3: Army LSU last weekend, and I won't give you all 1263 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 3: the details, but we actually talked about it a little 1264 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 3: bit on that podcast that that guy does this past week. 1265 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 3: There's an offensive line coach at Army named Mike Vede. 1266 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 3: He played fullback at Army. He's coached fullbacks, offensive line. 1267 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 3: He's been assistant head coach, he's been in charge of 1268 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 3: alumni affairs, he's been in charge of like high school recruiting. 1269 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 3: The guy is a lifer. He was a regimental commander 1270 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 3: when he played football. He's also a team captain, regimental commander. 1271 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 3: There's only four at west Point, and you're over about 1272 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 3: a thousand cadets when you do that. Then I'm on 1273 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 3: the field talking to him, so I want to try 1274 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 3: to learn a little more about him, and he tells 1275 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 3: me about when he did that. Oh, by the way, 1276 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 3: we were also at war. So these guys who he 1277 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 3: was had under his command while he was a cadet 1278 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 3: at West Point, while he was also a fullback at 1279 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 3: West Point six months four months later were actually over 1280 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 3: in Afghanistan fighting for US. So then past all of that, 1281 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 3: he decides to start Mike's Hike for Heroes. After he's 1282 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 3: done playing and after he tried to get into the 1283 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 3: business world or whatever, and he was going to hike 1284 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 3: a kilometer for every fallen soldier during the Global War 1285 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 3: on Terror. He walked seventy one hundred kilometers. And you're 1286 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 3: probably as bad as math that I am, but I 1287 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 3: had to go do it. Forty four hundred miles. He 1288 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 3: walked from Washington to the Army Navy game in Baltimore 1289 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 3: to honor the fallen soldiers that we had in the 1290 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 3: Global War on Terror. The guys just there are cool 1291 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 3: people all over college football. They're amazing stories everywhere in 1292 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 3: college football. But rarely do I come across a story 1293 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 3: and an individual that just kind of knocks me off 1294 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 3: my feet when I hear about all of it. And 1295 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 3: I asked Connor Fanukan their I tackle about him. He said, 1296 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,439 Speaker 3: number one, I wouldn't be here without him, he said 1297 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 3: number two. He's a cultural heartbeat of our football team. 1298 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 3: I asked coach Munkin about him, and I said, is 1299 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 3: there an individual on earth that embodies Army football more 1300 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 3: than Mike Vedie And he said, absolutely not. That guy 1301 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 3: is Army football. So I didn't know. I remember watching 1302 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 3: him play. I knew a little bit about him as 1303 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 3: a former player, but I knew nothing of any of 1304 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 3: this extent about Mike v d before I covered that 1305 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 3: game last weekend. And I'm honored to know a little 1306 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 3: bit more of it now, and it gives me a 1307 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 3: whole new respect for him and his teammates that he 1308 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 3: played with. And the guy's playing there right now. So 1309 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 3: that's that's the coolest, most interesting, funnest thing. 1310 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 4: That I've learned in college football this year. 1311 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 2: That is, it's more awesome than anything you bring to 1312 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 2: the show normally, and naturally it wasn't about you. 1313 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,480 Speaker 1: That's good stuff. What's his name? 1314 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 2: Give me the give me the spelling of his last name? 1315 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 3: V I T I Mike I T A Mike. Okay, 1316 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 3: two offensive line coaches, he's one of them. Yeah, And 1317 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 3: here's the best part. So I was telling Jordan about 1318 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 3: him and kind of sharing some of the story with 1319 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 3: him before I, you know, win talk to him. And 1320 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 3: then Jordan comes down to the field after they do 1321 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 3: their their deal with the booth, and Jordan's like, so, 1322 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 3: where is this Mike VDA guy? I want to I 1323 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 3: want to talk to him too, And I said, when 1324 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 3: you see him, you will know because if you took 1325 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 3: a former Army fullback now coaching offensive line out of 1326 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 3: central casting, it's this guy like the square shaped head 1327 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 3: shin like shs hold out of concrete buzz cut with 1328 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 3: like a little bit on the top, you know, giant shoulders, 1329 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 3: little bitty ankles, huge rear in And Jordan turned over. 1330 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 3: He goes that guy, I said, that's him. 1331 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, doesn't own short sleeves, does it has no 1332 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 2: need for them. 1333 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 1: That is that is wonderful. 1334 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 3: We were talking to him before the game, Johnson, He's like, 1335 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a fullback, you guys, I'm basically one 1336 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 3: of you guys, right, And I was like, you know 1337 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 3: what we do, welcome you do the family, just like 1338 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,919 Speaker 3: tight End sometime. I said, the difference was you could 1339 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 3: take your shirt off and go to the beach and 1340 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 3: feel okay about that. Yeah, we could never do that. Yeah, 1341 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 3: that's the difference. 1342 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 2: You know what I could do is I could take 1343 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 2: that guy's story and introduce it to the pot of 1344 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 2: group think over here, and those folks will say, yeah, 1345 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 2: everyone has one of those. 1346 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 1: That's what they would say to that. Everyone's got one. 1347 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 2: We all got one. 1348 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: Everyone's got one. All right. 1349 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 2: So this is the one opportunity that I give you 1350 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 2: to not just be that dude. With a podcast, you 1351 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,400 Speaker 2: actually have fifteen seconds to tell people what it's called, 1352 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 2: confirm it exists, and direct them to said show. 1353 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 3: Cube Show is the podcast we do talk about Mike 1354 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 3: Vida this week. It's right here on YouTube with us 1355 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 3: where you're watching at Cube Show sixty one actually on 1356 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 3: the brink of the most viewed episode we've ever had. 1357 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 4: We're knocking on that door right now. 1358 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 3: So if you want to go click on it, that 1359 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 3: would be great. At Cube Show, Twitter and Instagram can 1360 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 3: follow on there and Michaelroly Cubic in the morning Wjox 1361 01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 3: seven to ten am weekdays. There you go tofin dot com. 1362 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 2: That's all he has to say. That's all we have 1363 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 2: to say, called Cuban. Enjoy the road this week, sir. 1364 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me and we appreciate me back. 1365 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll just talk whatever. We are happy to have 1366 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 2: you guys along for the ride. Remember, we're about to 1367 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 2: fly down to Jacksonville tomorrow. We'll be there for Georgia, Florida, 1368 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 2: doing a full broadcast in the stadium if anyone finds 1369 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,320 Speaker 2: us there in the mezzanine section. That's about as specific 1370 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 2: as I can get. Remember, though, Friday Night Lines on 1371 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 2: these devices of ours at late Kick Josh on Instagram 1372 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,160 Speaker 2: will go live there sometime Friday night, So just keep 1373 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 2: your eyes peeled. I don't sneak it up on you. 1374 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 2: I give your heads up about an hour ahead of time. 1375 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 2: Friday Night Lines now proudly produced by fan Duel, which 1376 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 2: means nothing changes. 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