1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: All Right, so super excited about this guest today. Do 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 2: you know the last time I think I saw you 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: was on the airport. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Yes, BNA afterwards and I think I just saw you 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: on my flight. Yeah. 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 3: Yes. 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: It was one of those things where it's like this 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: has happened before. It actually happened with Riley Green, like 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: about a month ago. He was on our plane to 11 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: LA but I'm so out of that world that I'm like, 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: I don't think people know who I am. So it's 13 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: like I didn't say anything to him. And then Laney 14 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: was also on the flight. But then I remember seeing. 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: You Lane and Riley plan l A. 16 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: Okays, She's like, is there any dirt? 17 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: Ear? 18 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: This is crazy? 19 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: But it was one of those where I was like, 20 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: I feel like we made out of contact. 21 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 3: I'm like, ash, she wonder who I am. I was like, 22 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: I don't know. 23 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, wait. I was like, 24 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: that's definitely you, right, I love it. And I was like, Okay, 25 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: that was definitely you. 26 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: Because like you're just to me, you just seem like 27 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: a girl who's just just. 28 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: Cool, you know what I mean? 29 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: Like you I appreciate it. 30 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: You work really hard. 31 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: I followed you on socials and I just like your 32 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: overall presence too. 33 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 34 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: And I witnessed it. 35 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: I kind of watched how you were to your band 36 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: people and the person that you were with, and that 37 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: has I've seen other people in those situations and you 38 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: were so lovely and kind to them. 39 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 40 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 4: My band is like absolutely my family on the road, 41 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 4: so yeah, that's good. 42 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I love that. We also have too many inside jokes 43 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: to count, so I. 44 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 4: Feel like in the airport, we're always trying to like 45 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 4: not say some messed up stuff like around other people, 46 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 4: so we try to keep it like PG and be normal. 47 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, it can be hard living on the bus 48 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: with dudes, though. 49 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean honestly not really though. 50 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 4: I feel like growing up, I always had really close 51 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 4: guy friends that I was always just around and hanging 52 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: out with, so it never really it never really struck 53 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 4: me as weird, Like even now my day to day. 54 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: Emily was always on the road with us, and that 55 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 4: was like the main girl on the road with us 56 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: all the time, and now it's me and the guys 57 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 4: because she came off the road, and it just doesn't 58 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: feel weird. I think, I mean, you get it obviously 59 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 4: growing up with music and being on the road too, 60 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: Like they just become your family and they're all married 61 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: and like you singing around girls all the time, and 62 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 4: so it's just kind of like the vibe. 63 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: You know the vibe. And you're out with three guys 64 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: right now on tour. Is that correct? 65 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: Wait? 66 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: Yes, Lee Brice, Dustin Lynch, yeah, Learbys. 67 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: And Parker McCollum both. 68 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 4: We start tour in the next couple of months, and 69 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: then Dustin and I are doing some festivals together, which 70 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 4: will be fun. 71 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: I freaking love it all of those times, they're amazing. 72 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 4: We just got off tour with Kane Brown a little 73 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: bit ago, and then Jordan Davis before that. 74 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: You've had all the good ones, the great ones. I 75 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: don't know if there's any bad dudes in country, but 76 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: like you've really you have like a very this is 77 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: a solid roster for you. 78 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: Like Brian was before that. Like there, it's just we've 79 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: been out with really great people. But I also think 80 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: in country you really can't get to a place of 81 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: success without being a good person. So I think that 82 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 4: the majority of people that are successful where they're at 83 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: it's because they are good people. 84 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: You know, let's talk about your roster. Go ros Oh boy, 85 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: we don't care about your CMT or am. Want to 86 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: know your body count? That's the new term. 87 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: No, I've hundred I know you talked about this. 88 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: On the UVS. I've learned, like what all that's like? 89 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: Now? 90 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: Apparently body count means now people have sex with us. 91 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: But you didn't know that. 92 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: No, I'm waiting, are you studying? 93 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: Wait, you guys don't know the body count meant back 94 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: in the day, be like how many people did you 95 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: have sex? 96 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: What's your number? 97 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: You asked their body count? That's like a that's like 98 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: a that's like been around for a long time though. 99 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: Okay, well all right, I'm like a long time. 100 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: I don't know, like maybe, I mean I've known about 101 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: that since like I started having. 102 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: Text So I'm like, and gentlemen, she's not a virgin. 103 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: Oh god, here we go, okay, so. 104 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: Have Okay, it ain't your it ain't your place? 105 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: Yes? 106 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: Yeah whatever? 107 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: Yes, yep? 108 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: Uh is there? Who have you talked about that guy? 109 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: I know you've talked about like the story the story 110 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: of it. 111 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: I followed it. 112 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah too, Is this the same guy from a because 113 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 2: something else just happened on your story a minute ago. 114 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: Two there was a breakup. 115 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a breakup. I have not been to 116 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: you this recent guy. Absolutely not. 117 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 4: He's wonderful and incredible, and do we know him? Maybe 118 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: he's not an artist or anything. 119 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: Have you ever dated an artist? 120 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: I have? 121 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: Uh, that's what your place is about. 122 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: Oh do we know that person? 123 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 4: We know that probably definitely, he definitely knows. We even'n 124 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: talked about it. 125 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: But yeah he's married now. 126 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: Oh good hap be for him? Uh huh m hm, Okay, 127 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: I want to ask a question. I know. I'm like, oh, 128 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 3: I don't think so, okay, if not he's not on tour. 129 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 3: It is also hard to because I know that balance 130 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 3: of like listen, it is what made these stories. But 131 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: also you don't even want to like give lighter energy 132 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: to the pe. 133 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, because he cheated on me and. 134 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: I had a feeling when you gets married Now, I 135 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, that's what you're saying. 136 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, by all means, there was definitely 137 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: a time that I wanted to air it all out 138 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: and didn't. 139 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: How'd you catch him? Which I about cheating a lot 140 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: on this podcast. 141 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Oh have you guys been cheated on too? 142 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: Oh? 143 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: My ex husband? 144 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: Oh god, I like that act a lot? 145 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: Oh he was, yeah, like how many times? 146 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: Oh? 147 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: Ashly? 148 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 1: Actually this podcast is about the same the same people 149 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: or was it different? 150 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: Different loads? 151 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: My god, dude. 152 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: There's a couple of books available if you're interested in that. 153 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: So I'm just hearing a place to start where yeah, 154 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: where you like, how did you find out? And then 155 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: how did you feel when it happen, because a lot 156 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: of times I'm like, oh, what did I do? That 157 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: was just always my mind frame, but then it's now 158 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 2: obviously shifted. 159 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 4: Honestly, So when I first started dating him, this was 160 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 4: the guy that you were closest about. When I firstarted 161 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: dating him, it was one of those things where I 162 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 4: knew the red flags going into it, and I just 163 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 4: kind of convinced myself that it was different and I 164 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: could change him and whatever. 165 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: And I think we all do that just naturally. 166 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: And I've always been somebody in relationships where I feel 167 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: like I try to be a fixer, Like I'm like, okay, 168 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: well I see the best the best in them. I 169 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 4: want to, you know, want to believe the good and 170 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: what they have to offer. And so they dated for 171 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: like about a year, okay, And I knew his ex 172 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: girlfriend before that, and she. 173 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: Had warned me about him, but I was just warnings. 174 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was just like, you know, I I 175 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: just it's different. It's different. It's different. You know, you're 176 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: you're young, and you believe things and whatever. And so 177 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: we started dating. And there was a lot. 178 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 4: Of red flags while we were dating, but I just 179 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: I loved him, so I chose to stick it out. 180 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: And I was on the road playing a show in 181 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 4: New Orleans, like gosh, probably two. 182 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: Years ago, three years ago now, and I came off. 183 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 4: It was like an interesting show, like a lot of 184 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 4: weird stuff happened during the show, and I was already 185 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 4: kind of just like a weird day. And I went 186 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: back to the green room afterwards to a screenshot of 187 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: a picture of him making out with a girl on 188 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: Broadway and he had dropped off at airport that morning, 189 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: so like very much just one of those things. 190 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: And then there was another girl who was. 191 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: Hooking up with him at the same time, and somebody 192 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: that was kind of involved with the industry as well, 193 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: and one of my friends, we you know, hung out 194 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 4: and he told me, Hey, I think that this girl 195 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: is hooking up with your boyfriend. And I was like huh, 196 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: and yeah, it was just this crazy thing and I 197 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: ended up on the phone with her. We became friends 198 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: through it. Now we're friends. Like it just kind of 199 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: happened that way. But yeah, men. 200 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: Will, they'll say some things and they'll do some things. 201 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: Boys usually And where where was like what was it 202 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: for you in that place? 203 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: Like where did you go to first? Was it. 204 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: Known? 205 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: Because I did know? 206 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like I like I knew that that 207 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: was what was going to happen. Like he that's just 208 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: what he did before. But I hope for his sake 209 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: that he has you know, grown up. He is married now, 210 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 4: and so I'm just. 211 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: Like, you know, how many years ago as that so 212 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: we broke up since they got married, since. 213 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: You guys broke up? 214 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: Gosh, when did your place come up? Was that twenty 215 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 4: twenty three three? I think probably around that time frame, 216 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: like right before that? So yeah, I mean we haven't 217 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: spoken since we broke up. He obviously knows the songs 218 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 4: about him and honestly, thank you for sucking because. 219 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: The song. 220 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: Number one song. 221 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: And but yeah, That's what I love about country music, though, 222 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: is because it's real. It's it's real, it's authentic. It's 223 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: even the you know, the the songs about the trucks 224 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: and all, it's it's all. 225 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: It's all very real. 226 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: Thing too, is when I when I was writing the 227 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: song and putting it out to your point, like wasting 228 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: the energy. I didn't want to spend all this time 229 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: talking about this guy that just you know, wasn't clearly 230 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: was struggling with his own stuff and mental health and 231 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 4: things that he needed to work through. And so now, 232 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: of course it's it's my story and I'll always tell it, 233 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 4: but I genuinely completely hope that he is happy and 234 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 4: changed his ways and he's making some girl really happy. 235 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: You know, are you dating anyone right now? 236 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm not. I went through a breakup in October. 237 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: So what is the red flag? What are some of 238 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: the red flags that you'll go, Okay, I'm not going 239 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: to stand for that. 240 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think when people aren't. 241 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: Intentional about no you like, I think that when you 242 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 4: hang out with somebody and it feels like they're just 243 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: in their own world the whole time, and don't ask 244 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: coople questions about you and what you're thinking and how 245 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 4: you're feeling. I think that's a red flag for me 246 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: because it kind of is like narcissism and you can 247 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: just tell. And that's where a lot of that stuff 248 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: stems from the cheating world. 249 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: And all of that. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'm still 250 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: kind of trying to figure it out. 251 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: That's a pretty wise perspective for someone your age, and 252 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: not that you're super young, but I definitely didn't have 253 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: that at twenty eight. 254 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 255 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: I think the guy that I was with and you know, 256 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: broke up with back in October, it was one of 257 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: those relationships where I'd been through a lot of really 258 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 4: shitty relationships like the one I just talked about, and 259 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 4: I didn't really know what it was like to be 260 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: loved by somebody so wonderful and so kind and so 261 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: intentional and he's incredible. It was just one of those 262 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 4: things that we just there were some things that needed 263 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 4: to be fixed and didn't want to settle for something 264 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 4: and he still very much wants to be together. 265 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: But what was it for you? 266 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: Then? 267 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: It was he too nice? Because that's the thing. 268 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: It's like, you've been with a bunch of shitty guys, 269 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: like you said, and then here's this great guy. 270 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: No, I mean he's wonderful. I think that's what's hard. 271 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: And I think why I we're both in this place 272 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: of what's going on, because it works great. 273 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 4: I think it's just one of those things where he's 274 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 4: a little older than me, and I think he still 275 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 4: needs to figure out some stuff with like his life, 276 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: you know, and what he wants to do and who 277 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: he wants to be. And I'm pretty set in who 278 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: I am and my career and you know, a lot 279 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: of those things. And I think he just needs to 280 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 4: figure that out. And yeah, it wasn't that I wasn't 281 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: willing to stick it out with him and figure it 282 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: out with him. I think it was just, yeah, we 283 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 4: just we just needed some time apart. 284 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: If a new guy came in but he had cheated before, 285 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: would you stay with him? 286 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: Would you date him? 287 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a great question, knowing your past with these people. 288 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: I think it depends. 289 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: Probably won't talk all about relationship, so honestly. 290 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm here for it. I feel like a lot of 291 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: a lot of my life right now is that I 292 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I think I it depends. I 293 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: think the guy that I was with before that cheated before. 294 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 4: There were like immediate red flag signs that I should 295 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: have just known right away. And I think that if 296 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 4: I were to talk to somebody new that had cheated 297 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: before and they showed those signs, I'd be out and heartbeat. 298 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: But if they really people. 299 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: I mean, people do stupid they you know, Yeah, not 300 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 4: that that's an excuse for it, but people mess up, 301 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: they do things, and sometimes it's for different reasons. And 302 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: the reasons my ex did it were because he was 303 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 4: just chronically unhappy with himself right first. 304 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: If it was somebody who. 305 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: Was in a tough spot and weird situation and things 306 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 4: just happened that way and it was like complicated. We 307 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 4: kind of weren't together, but we kind of were, And 308 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 4: there's like a lot of a lot of gray in 309 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: those situations. Yeah, would you now you're you're. 310 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: Married, and now I'm married, But a wonderful, wonderful man, 311 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: I that that would be really hard for me to 312 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: given my history with my ex. Now again, I have 313 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: cheated in my past, not on my marriage, but when 314 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: I was dating back in my twenties, I definitely did 315 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: not proudly, not like yeah, just honest. It's just you know, 316 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,359 Speaker 2: I was, you know, on the road and you know, living. 317 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: Meeting people and doing your things. 318 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know I wasn't honest with myself. I 319 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: wasn't true to myself all those things. In a marriage, no, 320 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: absolutely not. But with you know my ax, I just 321 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: I I would really struggle with that. And I I 322 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 2: was kind of talking to someone post divorce and he 323 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: had and it's like, I just it's tough. 324 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: I just want to die. Yeah. 325 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: And I guess coming from a place where you have 326 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: done that before, like you know that you're a great 327 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 4: person to your heart and like why you were in 328 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 4: that moment, So I think that's I've never cheated before. 329 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 4: So I think for me, it's like do I get why? No, 330 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 4: If I wanted to cheat on somebody, I would just 331 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 4: call them and be like, yo, we're done. 332 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, That's what I always wish I could. It was 333 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: always like I know, it was always like the day 334 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: after I'd call and say that, like why can't I 335 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 2: do it the day of? 336 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: It's a little proactive, like it doesn't. 337 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. 338 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 4: To me, it's like, yes, moments are impactful and powerful, 339 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 4: but I just always have been like, Hey, if I'm 340 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: into this person enough to want to hug up with them 341 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 4: while I have a relationship like who, this will be 342 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: something further than just like a one night thing. 343 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: Do you think it's because of your fixing nature that 344 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: you're ending up in these relationships like you said that 345 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: you've had, yeah, relationships. 346 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 3: Is that that is? 347 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: Or is it something from childhood Ashley? That's like this 348 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: is a piece that it's. 349 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean in therapist like I've been talking about all 350 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: this too, and I don't know. 351 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: I think what is little Ashley saying? I love it? Ashley, 352 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: She's a wise one. She made you so. 353 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, I think a lot of it 354 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 4: For a long time was like that was where I 355 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 4: found my worth in it. 356 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: I found my power in it. 357 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 4: Like I was like, all right, well they need me 358 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: because they're a trainmack, so I need to kind of 359 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 4: like be a part of that. Yeah. 360 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: It's like when things are great and healthy and wonderful, 361 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, what the what is there? 362 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: Hello? 363 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 4: Like I'm a Gemini Enneagram seven, So I feel like 364 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: I'm always like needing stimulation and something to do and 365 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 4: something to keep me occupied and do all of that. 366 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 4: So I think when when somebody's needing help, I just 367 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 4: want to step in and nurture. Mix nurture, yeah, yeah, 368 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 4: which I think is just also like a lot of women, 369 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: that's what we do. 370 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is what we do best. I believe it's. 371 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: The nature of it. 372 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: Okay, so tell me what the dream like. I just 373 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 3: I am just really proud of you. 374 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. 375 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: I feel like you write really powerful things. Is is 376 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: writing in our artistry? Which is your favorite? Is my 377 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: first question? These are lighter topics for just a moment. Yeah, 378 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: I'd probably be back in a second with some more. 379 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: I feel like it's get real because I do. I 380 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: feel like you're such a powerful writer. 381 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. I love writing. I've always mean I can 382 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: tell me I was a writer first. 383 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: But I think where are you from? 384 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: It's always a hard question because I've moved around a 385 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: lot growing up. 386 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: Where were you born? 387 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: I was born in Wisconsin, okay, moved to California, then Florida, 388 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: than DC for a second, than Nashville. 389 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: Okay, we kind of But you came here to write first, yes, 390 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: got it. 391 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: Came here when I was thirteen with my sister. We 392 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: were in a duo together for a long time. 393 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: Oh what was it called? 394 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: Well, we had two different names. First it was Jenny 395 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 4: and Ashley. We did like a lot of like Nickelodeon, 396 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: like Disney feels like that. Yeah, and then we went 397 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 4: from that to it's called the Lockett's Cute. It was 398 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 4: like a play on the you know, Annie, the movie. Yeah, 399 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: it was a play on like her lock Its. 400 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: We loved the Lockett's like the movie so much. So, Yeah, 401 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: we did that for a long time, moved to town 402 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: for that. 403 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: And then who's your favorite to write with? Right with? 404 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: Right now? Because you know, there's just there is some 405 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: magic that happens in writing rooms too. I mean, Jane 406 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: is a writer too, married to a writer, So I 407 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: wanted a writer to no, no, I'm married to him. 408 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I was like, wait what. 409 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: I love Alan writing. He has beautiful handwriting. He does 410 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: love it. 411 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: I love it right now. One of my all time 412 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: favorite co writers is Emily wise Band. 413 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: I love her. 414 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 4: She's just excellent, greatest friend and also just I feel 415 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 4: like so much of my project that's coming out soon, 416 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 4: it's it's just like unique and raw and cool, like 417 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 4: even just talking to y'all, like I feel like it's 418 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 4: just like balls get down, like you just hang out 419 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: and talk. 420 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, she's not superpowers. Yeah, she's very much just broad, 421 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: real and cool and has. 422 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: A different way to say things genius. 423 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: Yeah she's pointing. 424 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 4: And so I think when we'd get together, I always 425 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: have kind of like off the wall random ideas and 426 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: she just knows how to make sense of them. 427 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: So is little Ashley living her dream now? Or is 428 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: there a greater dream than this? Because I think anybody 429 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: that can pay their bills with country music is already 430 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: succeeded in a certain way. Like we're talking about that 431 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: a lot in our house, Like we're living in a 432 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: house music built. That's a rarity. One hundred people have 433 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: moved here since we started this conversation, and we'll move 434 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: back in a year because they didn't make it here. 435 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: Yep. 436 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: And you're doing it, and you're doing it well, but 437 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: you're working really hard. I mean, sister, I don't know 438 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: that when you're off the road or not on because 439 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: you're I'm really Brett Young, Joe Jonas, I know I'm 440 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: forgetting somebody else, Roman Alexander, I mean, I mean everybody. 441 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: It's been crazy. 442 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: I think the last about Brantley Gilbert. We want to 443 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: circle back to X relationships. 444 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: This would be a great point to do. Forgot, it's 445 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: not just about your best here at mine down we're 446 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: equal opportunity passing, right. 447 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened with that. 448 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: By the way, we just weren't with the right people. Yep, 449 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 3: you know. She still says he's a wonderful human. He's wonderful. 450 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 3: He's like one of the nicest dudes. And you know 451 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: I was. 452 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: I was not in the best place, makes sense, And 453 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: he was meant for his beautiful wife, and I was 454 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: meant to be the life that I was living. 455 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: No, so I love it. 456 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: Well, that's so much. That's a very mature response. 457 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: She I'm ma, sure and re routing, Okay, but I 458 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: mean that though, like Joe, I know, she's wonderful. 459 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: Of course, I loved y'all song like He's incredible. Yeah, 460 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: so much. 461 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 2: I just feel like you're living so much of what 462 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: I would consider to be your dream if I was 463 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 2: looking in so I'm wondering where is this, Like, do 464 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: we have Taylor's swift momentum in our brains? 465 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: Of course? 466 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that's always the goal. And 467 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 4: I think it's one of those things. 468 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 3: You know. 469 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 4: Honestly, the last couple of months, I've had a hard 470 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 4: time with this because I think when you're starting out 471 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: as an artist, the goal is to go play stadiums, right, 472 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: It's like that's like the goal. 473 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: Why not shoot for it? Why not go for it? 474 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: If you don't have that as your end goal, it's 475 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: kind of like, what's the point I even trying. I mean, 476 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: that's at least my mentality of it, like go for 477 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: go for the gold, and if you settle for silver, 478 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 4: then that's amazing still, you know, but I. 479 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 1: Think I mean turning twenty eight. 480 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 4: I turned twenty eight June twelfth, so I like just 481 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 4: turned twenty eight, and I was like, oh, I want 482 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 4: to like have kids someday and I want to do 483 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: all that stuff. 484 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: And I feel like you can't have stadium. 485 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 4: Level momentum and a matter of a couple of years, 486 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 4: Like and I want to have kids in my early 487 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: thirties is kind of my goal? 488 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: Like what am I? What's the plan here? 489 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 4: And so I think, you know, I'm such a one 490 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 4: track minded driven manifest it. 491 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: Do it get in there? Like work? 492 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 4: Like to your point, I really haven't stopped since like 493 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. 494 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can tell, yeah, like I'm just I mean, 495 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: even if you just pull up your iTunes, you can 496 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: tell you haven't stopped. 497 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just been NonStop. 498 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 4: And even like last year, my family went through a 499 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 4: lot of stuff with like health world and like my 500 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 4: dad had cancer for the fifth time, my mom had 501 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: a heart attack, my sister had that word issues, like 502 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 4: a lot, a lot, We lost both of my grandma's, 503 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 4: Like a lot happened in a year, and I still 504 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 4: was just like, go go go, go, go on their own 505 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 4: tour doing all this stuff. 506 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's therapy in itself sometimes too to be busy. 507 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: And to keep your mind off of it, for sure, But. 508 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: Avoidance therapy, I don't know, TBD. 509 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: That's very avoidable. 510 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: I've been there. That's the only reason. Yeah, Big Machine 511 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: and I had a really like tumultuous relationship because it 512 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: was good for me because I could just they liked 513 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: me to work and I. 514 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: Like to work. 515 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just gonna get busy and put my bland. 516 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: Did you so when did you kind of eventually stop 517 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: doing that. 518 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 3: When I had a baby down. 519 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: You have a different world. Well, let me and let 520 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: me just say this too. So when I was got 521 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: the boy was at the top of charts one ACM 522 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 2: new Female, Well all the same, you know, all the 523 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: stuff I had Jolie like literally on the bus, crib 524 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: on there everything. I had the moment where I was like, 525 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 2: I don't want it bad enough because I started as 526 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: an actress. 527 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: I fell into the music. It was amazing. 528 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: I loved it. I was so happy for it. You 529 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: have a different like, this is your life. You will 530 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: make it work, you know, just as Carrie Underwood did. 531 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: And yes, you might slow down, you might say no 532 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: to things, but you're going to honor yourself. And if 533 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: you can take your baby, yeah, you know on the 534 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: road too. It's the whole thing. But I just think 535 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 2: that when you want it, you can have it all. 536 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: I really do believe that. Like I'm a big believer. 537 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 2: I just remember looking at it going I don't want 538 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: this like this right, you know, I want to have moments, 539 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: but I. 540 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 4: Think it's hard to because to your point, I think 541 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 4: I look at people like for Asion, like Rayln killing it. 542 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, she has a baby, she's killing it. There's 543 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: so many artists that there stud be there exactly like. 544 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 4: People that are killing it, I think, and I don't 545 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 4: know them well enough to know their mentality. I think 546 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 4: for me, I've just always been such a head down 547 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 4: go like what's my goal? 548 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: What am I doing? What's the plan here? 549 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 4: And I think that when I do have kids, I 550 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 4: want to be the kind of mom that puts them first. 551 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: Obviously, and you will, right, But then it's the reason 552 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: I had to say no to a few That shit 553 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: shows that perspective. But it's like if you look at 554 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: you know, I look at people like lindsay Olt they 555 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 2: she's so busy all the time. But it's like you 556 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: might miss out on things too in that you know, 557 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: and I think you can. I think you can do both. 558 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 2: You just might have to say no to a few, 559 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: you know, radio things or whatever it is. I also 560 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: want to speak into taking the pressure off your clock, 561 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: like I'm an old mom. 562 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah I had a kid at forty forty. 563 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: Yeah I had my last one at forty one, my 564 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 2: first one at thirty four. 565 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: Why do we do that? Like why do we care about? 566 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 2: I really want to When I was thirty one, I 567 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I have to have baby now. 568 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: I ignored every red flag him cheating on me before. 569 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: I remember being at a show with it was Joe Nichols. 570 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: I was like, I just got cheated on a boy 571 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: my boyfriend. 572 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: What did I do? 573 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: A couple of months later get back with them? Because 574 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I'm almost thirty or I mean I'm 575 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: thirty and then I'm gonna be thirty one, and. 576 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 4: Well that's what even like the guy I was talking 577 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 4: about that we just broke up recently, Like, I think 578 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: a lot of my he's wonderful, He's literally incredible, and 579 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 4: I think a lot of we. 580 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: Just don't think we're done with him. 581 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: I just can tell. 582 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: I think we are. I think we are though at 583 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 3: the end of the day, okay, because you kind of 584 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: have to be until I feel like you're in your 585 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 3: own way with him. Maybe, but I think it's because 586 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 3: he's not. I also love Gemini so much that I'm like. 587 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: We're always indecisive, and that's the problem when. 588 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: You know, I know, also that could just be history too, 589 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: that's fair, fair, wonder but. 590 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: I think that's so. 591 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 4: I think too is a lot of you know, I 592 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 4: turned twenty six and twenty wait, yeah, twenty six and 593 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 4: twenty seven dating him. I think both of those years, 594 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: because when you sign a record deal, I mean I 595 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: sign my record deal when I was what twenty three? 596 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 1: I want to say? 597 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 4: And so I was just been I've been like head down, grind, grind, grind, 598 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 4: grinine since then. And so I think I just all 599 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 4: of a sudden looked up and was like, wait, I'm 600 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: twenty seven, what's happening? 601 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: What am I doing? Is this the person for me? 602 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 4: Just you start to compile all of these fears. I 603 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 4: think I started doing that and that's why I was like, 604 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: I need a break. Yeah, maybe he's my first one. 605 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. 606 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's alsoday to not know right now. 607 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 4: And I think more than anything, we just need we 608 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 4: need like a minute, Yeah, the group, see other people, 609 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 4: do our thing, see what else is out there? 610 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, I just want you to know you have 611 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: plenty of time. 612 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: Why does it not feel like that? 613 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, but. 614 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: I don't like it because there's something about that twenty 615 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: twenty seven to thirty clock that makes us feel like 616 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: we're running out of time. 617 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: Terrifying. 618 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 619 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 4: And also then you look at you know, I'm not 620 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 4: a very competitive person with other people, but you look 621 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: at people like I don't know Sabrina carbon or Tate 622 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 4: McCrae and grated different genres, but like they're what like 623 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 4: twenty two twenty one like killing it, like playing arenas, 624 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 4: and you're like, damn, that's so sick. And then you 625 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: start to think, okay, well wait, I'm not wait what's 626 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 4: am I too? 627 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: Behind? 628 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 4: Like what you start to do that and it's like 629 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 4: the stupidest game ever because different genres, every artist, every 630 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: creative is so different, has their own path that I 631 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 4: truly believe that, not even just like sugarcoating it, but 632 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: I think you start to get in your head a 633 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: little bit about it. 634 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about competition, because that was one of 635 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: my one of my things with it, sorry, because on 636 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: the country radio charts, it is so limited when it 637 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: comes to females. And I mean I remember going, all right, 638 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: there's there's like a slaughter too for one of us, know, 639 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: but it's it's ridiculous because women aren't they the main 640 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: audience for country mus Yes? And I remember a radio 641 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: program would be like, well, women want to listen to men. 642 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: I was like, I listened, I love nineties women. 643 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? 644 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: Data? Yeah? Men? Right, I'm sure what. 645 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: But it was interesting because when I was in it, 646 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: and again I'm not trying to create like girl drama, 647 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: I really am not, but there was such this like 648 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: we're all friends, but I'm like, behind the scenes, I 649 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: was like nobody was friends. There was all this like competition. 650 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: People that were even doing songs together really truly hated 651 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: each other. And so I'm just curious where the where 652 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 2: it is now because again I'm so out of like 653 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: the game of things that I don't know. Like I 654 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: I remember hearing kind of like comments here if someone 655 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: doesn't get nominated for this or this person's playing an arena, 656 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: but is there It's not I don't want to say jealousy, 657 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: but is there that competition? 658 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 3: It's like there was it? What was it? 659 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: Megan Maroney and Ella Langley some like the un followed 660 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: because of maybe Riley Green, Like I was kind of 661 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: reading that on us weekly. I'm like, oh boy, Like 662 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: and if it's in a sleek we we know but 663 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: should know better. But I just am curious, like where 664 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: do you go in it? Or you're like, I'm out 665 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 2: of this whole. How does it affect you when you 666 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: see people that are on kind of your same level 667 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: maybe playing Yeah, these arenas and stadiums. It's a great 668 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: question because I know how it would. I mean, if 669 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: I didn't, would heart like affect me. I'd get jealous 670 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: of it. I'd be like, damn it, I want that. 671 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 672 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I think it's easy. I mean, just 673 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 4: being fully, fully transparent. I think it's really easy to go, well, damn, 674 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 4: I want that. And maybe I should spend a story 675 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 4: of some kind to make somebody talk and make things, 676 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 4: you know, And I think it's just it's natural to 677 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 4: want to do that. 678 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 679 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 4: I think in terms of the competition thing, I don't 680 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 4: really feel that much from like honestly, I will say 681 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 4: people like Kelsey Ballerini and Carly Peters have really set 682 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 4: the tone for a lot of US females in this 683 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: next era where they genuinely are not bols, like they 684 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 4: are nice people, like genuinely, because I when I first 685 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 4: started coming on see in this whole thing, I was like, 686 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 4: all right, well, maybe like I've heard the rumors, I 687 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 4: know the stories, I know people, you know, I know 688 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 4: that that was how that world was, you know, whatever 689 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 4: that time period was. 690 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: Hm. 691 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 4: But as far as like my experience with it, I 692 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 4: think there are what five slots for nominations. Yeah, so 693 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: naturally in the time of awards, we all kind of 694 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 4: get a little like. 695 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: What's happening here, what's going there? And we need to 696 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: all compete with each other. 697 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 4: But I think the girls like Carly and Kelsey, they 698 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 4: grew up also in that same time period of everybody 699 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 4: hating each other, and so I think and then we've 700 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 4: all talked about it, I think they're like, hey, we 701 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 4: don't want to do that. We don't want to talk. 702 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: We don't want to hate each other. Like we are 703 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: here for you, we are all we all get it. 704 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: We're gonna have those moments where we all go I 705 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: want what she has, but like, let's not be nasty 706 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 4: to each other. 707 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: It's all actually be nice to each other. 708 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 3: That's odd. That's how it should be. 709 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just was not your experience, No, but that's 710 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: how it should be. 711 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 712 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: And I mean maybe that's words that are said but 713 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: not actually meant. I don't know. 714 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 4: But as far as my experience with it, and also 715 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 4: I've stayed as far away from the drama of it 716 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: all as I possibly can, and maybe that's maybe that's 717 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 4: a bad thing. Maybe if I were to be more 718 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 4: involved with it, my music would be doing better, Like 719 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 4: I mean. 720 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: Maybe, And if we had drama, if we were throwing 721 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: chairs off of buildings, like, do we sell better? You know? Yeah? 722 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 4: And I think it's a natural, natural thought just because 723 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 4: of kind of the way that TikTok and Instagram and 724 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 4: all these like kind of click baity things are happening 725 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 4: right now. But who am I to judge somebody for 726 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 4: a real situation that's happening and how they're dealing with 727 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: it and it happening to benefit their music career? Who 728 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 4: am I to judge that? I don't I don't want 729 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: my team and I've talked a lot about this. I 730 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 4: just really don't. It wouldn't be me to create a 731 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 4: story for the sake of, you know, getting people to 732 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 4: talk about a certain song or whatever it is. 733 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: It's just not me. It's just not me. And that's 734 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: that's okay, you know. 735 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 4: I think if if anything like that were to happen, 736 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 4: it would have to be like truly truly real. And 737 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 4: I think a lot of these situations that are happening 738 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 4: that we're seeing maybe probably are real and that are 739 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 4: real yeah, And that's what I'm saying is like I'm 740 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 4: not going to you know, confirm it, deny what I 741 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 4: know or don't know, but I think, like regardless, I 742 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 4: think if it works for your career and it's real, 743 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 4: then what happened? 744 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: You know? Yeah, I think it's interesting because my perspective 745 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: of you, so you hit number one right when I 746 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 3: went into my baby bubble and had my third baby. 747 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: So I knew of you just by like charts and 748 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 3: all the things, but I didn't know no of you. 749 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: And what I know of you now two years in 750 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 3: to me knowing of you is that you aren't the 751 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 3: drama girl. And that's why I am mildly obsessed with 752 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 3: your career going well, because I like that there can 753 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: be headlines swirling. But while headlines are swirling, your nose 754 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 3: is down and you're writing great songs and you're being 755 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: an artist and you're hustling, and you're not sleeping and 756 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: you're potentially breaking up with the wrong guy we don't know, 757 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 3: but because you're working so hard, that's the focus. And 758 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: I just think that, you know, Jan and I are 759 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: raising daughters now, and Taylor Swift is a very big 760 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: deal in our house. Kelsey Ballerini is a very big 761 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: deal in our house. Talented and both extremely people, very 762 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: good people. And I want the Ashley Cooks of the 763 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: world to dominate that for our daughters and for our world. 764 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: And I want your voice to be louder than everybody else. 765 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: And I don't want you to have to throw chairs 766 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: or punches or that's the. 767 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: Tough part, dude. Yeah, I think it really is. 768 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: And I've talked to a lot of friends about this, Like, 769 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 4: you know, like Caitlin Brown and I are really great friends, 770 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 4: and we've talked a lot about this, and she's incredible, 771 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 4: and we've all kind of you know, Kaitlin and I 772 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 4: were just chatting about this a little bit and it's like. 773 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: Should I, like, do I do? Do I make a 774 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: note headline? Do I do something like? That's just not me? 775 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: And she goes, Ashley, you already have a really incredible 776 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 4: fan base that buys your tickets. 777 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: You're building it slowly. 778 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 4: You're doing what you don't need to do if you 779 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 4: were to do something for the sake of a headline 780 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 4: to make somebody, you know, all of a sudden, TikTok 781 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: goes viral with this thing, and this song happens to 782 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 4: be involved. Like, if you were to do that, the 783 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: core fan base that you have, you might sell more 784 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,239 Speaker 4: tickets with new people that would just go in here 785 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 4: to the next thing that's popping up, But your fan 786 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: base would be like, that's not that's not our Ashley, 787 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 4: that's not who they know. And so yeah, I mean 788 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 4: it's it's tough. I want to be in my head 789 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 4: against a wall constantly about this because I'm like, all right, well, 790 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 4: I feel. 791 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: Like I should no do Some things are one of 792 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: the wordy and you know, worse, if you want to 793 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,239 Speaker 2: be clickbaity, you know, get an awesome dance going up 794 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: on TikTok TikTok, you know what I mean? All those things, 795 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: But when it comes to headlines and that nature, there's 796 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: so many negative people that will just out then twist 797 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: your life in circles. And it's you know, I anytime 798 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: I ever see a headline, I hate I hate it, 799 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because there's always going to 800 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: be an opinion about it. So just as long as 801 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: like she said, like you're you're you, you continue to 802 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: be who you are, and that is that it's going 803 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: to be longevity and you're going to have respect. 804 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 3: And the person telling me that is the Browns. I mean, 805 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: Kane Brown is selling out stadiums and he's he's not 806 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: having all these things going on or this, that and 807 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: the other, like his wonderful all these people they're not 808 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: having all these negative or not negative but well, yeah. 809 00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: I mean honiacious. 810 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people have the mentality of like, well, 811 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 4: if it's negative, people are still talking. 812 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: You know. 813 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 4: It's like it's almost like the things that you do 814 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: that get people to have positive or negative opinions, and 815 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 4: it's the things that people have both about that become 816 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 4: the bigger situations. So I think, you know, I've always 817 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 4: been told and I really appreciate it. Throughout the industry. 818 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 4: Whenever people talk about me, it's always like, oh my god, 819 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: we love her. She's she's so great and she's so 820 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 4: nice and she's so talented, and I'm like, hell yeah. 821 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: But then it's like, it. 822 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: Isn't that that clickbaity story everybody's talking thing, And that's okay. 823 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 4: I think that's my thing is everybody's different, everybody's convict 824 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 4: them of different things. But I think for me, if 825 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 4: I were to do something that felt not me for 826 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 4: the sake of having a song go big or whatever 827 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 4: it is. I don't think I could sleep good at night. 828 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: I think I would struggle a lot with that. To know, 829 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: and not saying anybody else is doing that either. I 830 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: just think it's like. 831 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 3: Well, let's get you. 832 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: Let's get you a headline, girl. Okay, what country artists? 833 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: WoT you date? 834 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: Oh god, let's get you. 835 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: A headline right now? 836 00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: Oh god, let's do f Okay, country artists, single males go? 837 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: If you want your headline here it is single country males. 838 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: No one. 839 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 3: Do you want the married? No? So okay, you toss 840 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: in low cash and let's just make this a double one. 841 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I will say too, like I feel like 842 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 4: my type is not typically other artists. 843 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: Right, it's just really well done. I think that's really brilliant. 844 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: All right, So what's not? 845 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 3: Is it? 846 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: More? 847 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 3: Sports players are actors? I don't know. I mean, did 848 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 3: you didn't you do a song with Joe Jonas? Did 849 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 3: is he in a relationship? I can which one would 850 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: you date? Joe Jonahs? 851 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: Oh god, I mean he's cute, that's he says. 852 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, he's cute. 853 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 4: I will say, we will say Joah, I was more 854 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 4: of a net girl growing up. 855 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: Okay, which one's the marriage? Trying to get Kevin? 856 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: We're just trying here. No, I don't know. I mean yeah, 857 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: I think was there chemistry? Yeah, for sure? 858 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: Aoh he's great. I like, did you kiss Joe Jonah? 859 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm not going forward? Oh, I like 860 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: where this is staring. 861 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: Meanwhile is all of the management. 862 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: He's a great partner. 863 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 3: We call him Preston, and we have three babies. Oh 864 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: my gosh, I don't know that it's like a chance. 865 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 4: Honestly, I will say this, since October, this is the 866 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: first time that I have like been on dates. 867 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: Like I've been pretty much in relationships. You No, I'm scared. 868 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to go on und it's not great 869 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 4: this person. 870 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: I meet it. I'm meeting a lot of pigeon, but 871 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: like I meet it, I just care about that stuff. 872 00:33:59,400 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: I really don't. 873 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 4: And that's maybe like stupid to say, but I really don't. Like, No, 874 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 4: it's not stupid, like full transparency. I feel like, so, yeah, 875 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 4: since October. 876 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 3: Whatever happened in your body, go at that. I like, 877 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: we let it all out, let's see. 878 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 4: Okay, So I've pretty much been a serial dater since 879 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 4: I was like fourteen. Like I've literally been in and 880 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 4: out of relationships since I was fourteen, Like I've not stopped. 881 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 4: I've really never been single. And so when we broke 882 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 4: up in October, I was like, all right, I'm gonna 883 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 4: be single. Went on dates, like had a really good 884 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 4: time that a lot of people, different types of people, 885 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 4: people that had yachts or whatever, and I just the 886 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 4: people that I connect with the most of the ones 887 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 4: that we just have like a unique, like soul full 888 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 4: connection and that's great. 889 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: But like, I don't know my type. Does that makes sense? 890 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: I can tell you, like what I look at somebody 891 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: like you're hot. 892 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: But like so right now we're having like hot girl summer, 893 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: trying to figure out what Ashley likes. 894 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, I love that kind of all over this 895 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: is there a dream dude? Like you know, growing up 896 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 3: for us, like Matthew McConaughey was my guy, who's yours. 897 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 3: He's not anymore by the way, he's married and lovely 898 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 3: and I am that's not a thing, but growing up 899 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: we all liked him. How to lose a in ten days, 900 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: I mean like still to be attainable. Yeah, and actually preferred. 901 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 3: If it's not, maybe it is after you say it. 902 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean, like when Powell's cute. 903 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 2: Okay, I like that, I do, Glenn. I wonder if 904 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 2: he's If it's not Sydney, then I'm here for Ashley. 905 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 2: If it is Sydney, I'm here for Ashley. Lenny's he 906 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,919 Speaker 2: is cute. He's really cute. He's funny. Oh, you guys 907 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 2: would be real cute together. 908 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: Never met him? 909 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 3: Oh heyn wondering when and Ashley? I I love that. 910 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 3: So Glenn, if you're listening. 911 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: He seems like a real nice, normal dude. 912 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: He really does. 913 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 4: But I feel like he's also like the heart throb 914 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 4: of the generation right now. 915 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: So you are too, and you kind of you know, 916 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: you got like a little bit of a Sydney like eyes, 917 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you've got the blonde. 918 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're naturally really pretty, thank you. I know you're talented, 919 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 3: but I don't know, I think we're not. Probably this 920 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 3: is in the body count thing, the we're not supposed 921 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 3: to chail that are pretty anymore. I think it's like 922 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 3: the thing, right, but you just are and you're not 923 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: a made up person, which I like to all Right, 924 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 3: So Glenn Powell. 925 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: Have you ever Ashley Powell tried it on DAMS. I 926 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: don't know if he does. Do you've never done it? 927 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: Hold on, Okay, here's all I do it right now. 928 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: My whole life have always. 929 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 4: Been like, oh my god, I'm scared you're gonna decide 930 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 4: to Glenn Powell's DAMS do it? 931 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, good lord, I'm a good wing wing person right now, 932 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: Glenn Powell should also get a garbage. 933 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 3: You gonna say, Glenn. 934 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: Podcasting with the Beautiful Ashley Cook. 935 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if I meet him an event soon and 936 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna be like, you're. 937 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 3: Weird white, he's probably weird too. It's funny you. 938 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: Goanna say you're the class. 939 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: I will see ye your name? We need like a 940 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 3: vote him up. Okay, hey Glenn, I'm sure that's exactly 941 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 3: how I'll read it. 942 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: Hey Glenn, Hey, Glenn podcasting with the Beautiful Ashley Cook. 943 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 3: Your name came up. 944 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 2: I'm just saying cute, Yes, yeah, I'm going to have 945 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: you press. 946 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: I'm scared what if this is just okayed, good good 947 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: at shooting my shot? That's just not I want you 948 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: to you need to get. 949 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 3: You going to tell you you're sitting you're sitting between 950 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 3: your sandwich in this. 951 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: Little youth college friends. But there we go. 952 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 3: We're we are in our forties and all the things 953 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 3: we would have done them different at your age, and 954 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 3: so much I don't regret, but so many things that 955 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, I wish I just would have had the 956 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 3: confidence to just do different things because and. 957 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 2: I did your shot, your shot, live your dream, shoot 958 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: for the stars. 959 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 3: One. Don't you give up? 960 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, obviously we've like literally 961 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: the one life too short. Shoot your shots, girlfriend, Yeah, 962 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 2: shoot for the you know, shoot for it all is 963 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 2: you can. You can literally do it all. And you 964 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: know what's the worst that can happen? He doesn't respond, Okay, yeah, 965 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 2: that is a good point. 966 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: What's going to happen is like he reads it, doesn't respond. 967 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 4: Only we don't event together, And I'm like, Hi, Cret's a. 968 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 3: Great story, because I think we're never going to get 969 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 3: me all right, Actually, dude, the hell you are. 970 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 2: Tell us everything that's coming out, give us your give 971 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: us a whole spiel. 972 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 4: For my second album coming out, and that's I haven't 973 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 4: announced once it's coming out yet. I know. 974 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 3: I was trying to look up where the hell you are. 975 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: I was like, I want to hear it. 976 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, what comes out on Friday this Friday, which is super, 977 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 4: super exciting, And I just feels like a different era. 978 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 4: I think, even just like what we talked about today, 979 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 4: I think a lot of a lot of my first 980 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 4: record was a lot of like chasing what I wanted 981 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 4: to be a hit and a lot of sense, which 982 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 4: is just natural for your first record. But this one 983 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 4: feels a little more. I fought for what I wanted 984 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 4: in the rooms, and I was really intentional about what 985 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 4: I wanted to say, how I wanted to write, the 986 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 4: things that I wanted to do, And I think I'm 987 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 4: just kind of coming into my sureness a little more 988 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: of you know, being I'm a surveyor big time. Like 989 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 4: I love to survey, I love to ask opinions. I 990 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 4: love to I'm very indecisive, which is why I have 991 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 4: a hard time shooting my shot because I'm always just like, 992 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 4: what do I want? 993 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, like I just it's always all over 994 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: the place. 995 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 4: And I think with this next album, with all this 996 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 4: stuff with my family this past year that I told 997 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 4: you he was about, and in general, I just feel 998 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 4: like a little more of like a raw honesty era. 999 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little more blunt and. 1000 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 4: Trying to figure out exactly what it is that I 1001 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 4: want and speaking in my mind when my gut feels right, 1002 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 4: because that's kind. 1003 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: Of rare me. 1004 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 3: That's the thing. 1005 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 2: Women, We always have to listen to our gut because 1006 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 2: our gut knows and our gut tells us everything. 1007 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 3: And again, I mean, look at freaking Taylor and Travis. 1008 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 3: Travis like he shot his shock. 1009 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: He shot his shot, you know what I mean? Yeah, 1010 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 1: how did that go? I don't know? 1011 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 3: Did he asn't really tickets or something? 1012 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: Bracelet he gave his number. Yeah, so it's like he's 1013 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: sho he shot it and he scored, you know what 1014 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 2: I mean. Like Preston Brust did the same. Yeah, Alan, 1015 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: like you know, he shot his shot too. They all scored, 1016 00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 2: so they did. 1017 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 4: Do you guys think there's something about women shooting their 1018 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 4: shot versus man shooting their shot? 1019 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: No? No, I do think that men need to be 1020 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: the ones to be like, oh, I want you to 1021 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: go after you. 1022 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 2: I think they need the effort level. But I don't 1023 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 2: think I think either right ones don't care about that. 1024 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 4: Maybe it's like a maturity level thing and if they don't, 1025 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 4: if they don't like it, then that means that. 1026 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: It's not the right one. 1027 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see, Glenn. 1028 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 4: It is operate playing the operating and I, which will 1029 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 4: be super fun. I guess, like my sixth or. 1030 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: Seventh time playing the Incredible Naire though. 1031 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 4: It's so much fun. And I get to actually play 1032 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 4: that song The Hell You Are for the first time tonight. Yeah, 1033 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 4: the first time ever. 1034 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: We're playing it out. 1035 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 3: That's incredible. Actually, thank you for coming on the show. 1036 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 3: You You are welcome anytime. 1037 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1038 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 3: Guys on the couches for wine in a little chat. 1039 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: Bye girls, Bye,