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Speaker 1: I think it's funny if you would have told someone

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Speaker 1: So if I was a Cleveland Brown fan, my first

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Speaker 1: reaction to this guy would be like, fuck you excuse

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Speaker 1: my language. Their children, and last, but not at least,

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Speaker 1: Brock party. I saw a headline today, Oh it's not

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Speaker 1: a headlines as a story that Marvin Harrison Junior is

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Speaker 1: a penaciitis. He's out this week. He's gonna be gone

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Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, and they have I saw

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Speaker 1: a headline today that the Arizona Cardinals had to do

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Speaker 1: a walk through a practice on Wednesday afternoon because they

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Speaker 1: have so many injuries. Clearly there in shambles. They just

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Speaker 1: got their just doors blown off by the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: and there they got problems. They play the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers this week in Glendale. It'll be I would guess

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Speaker 1: eighty percent forty nine er fans. I mean, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's always the majority forty nine er fans, but now

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Speaker 1: that the Cardinals suck it. If you told me it

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Speaker 1: was close to ninety percent, I believe you. I was

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Speaker 1: of the opinion if Brock perty unless he is one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent and can't get reinjured, I'm just rolling with

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Now, I'm not naive. I'm not dumb. My

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Speaker 1: decision is I didn't just give him two hundred million dollars. Literally,

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Speaker 1: Jed York guaranteed him a hundred and eighty eight million dollars.

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Speaker 1: The way pro sports work, I'll never forget it. When

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Speaker 1: I was a kid, the Sacramento Kings had Chris Weber,

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Speaker 1: and we were so awesome. We had Mike Bibbie, we

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Speaker 1: had Peigio, we had Vlattie, we had Bobby Jackson, we

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Speaker 1: had Hiito Turklu.

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Speaker 2: Team was bad ass.

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Speaker 1: And then Chris Weber tore his knee and then the

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Speaker 1: next season he couldn't play for like eighty percent of it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure the Sacramento Kings had the best

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Speaker 1: record in the NBA. Well, they had just give him

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Speaker 1: like one hundred million dollars, And this was twenty five

468
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Speaker 1: years ago. He was gonna start the moment he could

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Speaker 1: quote unquote play, and that's what he did. And then

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Speaker 1: the team fell apart and it was never the same

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Speaker 1: and Chris Weber's career basically ended. It was the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the end, and it was also the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the end of the Sacramento Kinks. But there is pressure

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Speaker 1: when you pay a guy a lot of money and

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Speaker 1: you know you can't lose your job to injury. Is

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Speaker 1: the old adage, and there's some truth to that, But

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Speaker 1: when you get paid a premium, there is no not

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Speaker 1: only not losing your job, which he never was going

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Speaker 1: to do, but the moment you can play, the coach

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Speaker 1: and the organizations going to put you back in. I

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Speaker 1: just believe this that Mac Jones has played really well

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Speaker 1: this season, and he has a couple of games just

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Speaker 1: like last week against the I mean, he's played the

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Speaker 1: Rams twice and he lit him up like Christy, He's

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Speaker 1: looked fantastic. Now, if Brock Purty is healthy, I would

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Speaker 1: take Brock Purdy over Mac Jones. And I like Mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: but Rock Purty's proven he's a better player. I do

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Speaker 1: think there's a lot of pressure on him this week

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Speaker 1: because let's face it, when Brock plays, he's one of

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Speaker 1: the most polarizing guys in the league. That's not going

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Speaker 1: to change this week. If it doesn't go well. They're

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Speaker 1: going to be favored in this game. They are favored

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Speaker 1: in this game, and the Cardinals are viewed as a

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Speaker 1: team that's about to completely unravel. So to me, I

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Speaker 1: just hope, for everyone's sake so we don't have to

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Speaker 1: talk about it all week, Brocking to show up, assuming

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Speaker 1: he plays, and just play well, because if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: and they were to lose, then I think we got

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do a mailbag at John Middlecoff. At John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those DMS questions answered

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Speaker 1: DMS wide open and we will start with uh, We'll

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Speaker 1: start with Ben huge fan of the show and the Packers.

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Speaker 1: When looking at the NFC North, who is the best

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Speaker 1: position for success over the next two or three years.

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Speaker 1: I feel like our options are limited now with so

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Speaker 1: much money tied up in Parsons in Love, and I

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Speaker 1: feel like we went from the best young team in

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Speaker 1: the league to dog shit in the blink of I

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Speaker 1: would you're not that bad. I would say the Lions

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Speaker 1: are the only team with a quarterback who's proven, Like

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jared gos been playing at a high level

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Speaker 1: for a long time. Caleb's They're about to play a

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Speaker 1: lot of big games. You know, it's one thing to

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Speaker 1: light up the Bengals, the Cowboys or the Giants. Let's

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Speaker 1: see how he plays against Packers. Hes got two games

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Speaker 1: against the Packers defense. I don't know, We'll see, right.

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy is not only a major wild card. I

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Speaker 1: mean it looked like Justin Jefferson was quitting on him

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Speaker 1: in his fourth start, And I would say, you guys,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a lot of pressure right now

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Speaker 1: on the floor. Even the people that cover the Packers

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Speaker 1: are like, this guy's fighting for his job now. So

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell not only is not fighting for his job,

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Speaker 1: he's the best coach the Lions I've ever had, and

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Speaker 1: obviously Jared Goff, which is a solid quarterback. But the

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Speaker 1: other thing is they're well positioned because like Aiden Hudson

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Speaker 1: is a star, like Brian branch is a high end player,

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Speaker 1: Right Laporta, Amen raw Sewel Gibbs, Montgomery, Jamison Williams, like

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Speaker 1: these guys are all young and under contract. So I

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Speaker 1: would still lean the Lions. We're gonna learn a lot

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Speaker 1: about the Lions this week. I think the other night

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Speaker 1: on Monday Night, I said that Philly was going back

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Speaker 1: to back road games. Was wrong on that one. My bad,

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Speaker 1: And as I say, my bads, get your ass kicked podcasts,

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Speaker 1: they don't. They just mistakes and we move on. The

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles are hosting the Lions, so it's that's that's

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Speaker 1: a big game for the Lions.

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Speaker 2: More it's actually a bigger game for the Lions than

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Speaker 2: the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: I think as a defensive coordinator today's league, is it

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Speaker 3: tougher to defend the run or the pass?

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Speaker 2: Love the show?

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Speaker 1: I think it depends on your personnel. I would say

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Speaker 1: for most guys, given their personnels, if you have a

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Speaker 1: good running game, it's harder to stop the run. Right,

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Speaker 1: twenty thirty years ago, you had a bunch of big

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Speaker 1: run stuffing guys in your front seven, linebackers included. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how many guys in the league would he be? Like,

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Speaker 1: this guy's a downhill run stuffer. Like I love Fred Warner.

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Speaker 1: He's a Hall of Fame player. Fred Warner is a

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Speaker 1: sideline to sideline, beats guys on angles. He's not like

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Speaker 1: meeting Lorenzo O'Neill or Mike Alstott in the hole and

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Speaker 1: shedding him and making the tat. It's not really how

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Speaker 1: he plays, you know. So I just think that the

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Speaker 1: style of player is a lot different now at linebacker,

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Speaker 1: and just a lot of teams don't employ like three

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty pound defensive lineman because they have no

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Speaker 1: pass rush and a lot of times you just got

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Speaker 1: to beat passers. And even if you're playing like a

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Speaker 1: rushing team, if they got a good quarterback like Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: like having a three hundred and forty pound guy there,

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, what's he gonna do chase down Lamar Jackson?

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Speaker 1: You know So it's I just think the personnel has

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Speaker 1: changed a lot. I definitely think it is stopping the

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Speaker 1: run again, if you're facing a good run team. Whenever

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Speaker 1: I see a lot of people going, you know, this

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Speaker 1: team's terrible against the run, it's like, well, yeah, they

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Speaker 1: don't have the players, and.

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Speaker 2: What are they gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Draft a bunch of two hundred and sixty pound linebackers

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Speaker 1: watch college.

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Speaker 2: That guy does not exist.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot more I saw the clip of.

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Speaker 1: I honestly, I haven't watched much Ohio State this year

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Speaker 1: just because they are beating the shit out of everybody.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they're elite, but whoever their best player

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Speaker 1: is that pass rusher. I saw some clips I was like,

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Speaker 1: got this guy? I think Dame Brugler. I was reading

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Speaker 1: an article. I forget the kid's name, but he's a baller.

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Speaker 1: It looks like Michah Parsons. There's just a lot of

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Speaker 1: Micah Parsons. Look at the best defensive lineman, and Abdul

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Speaker 1: Carter was like, Michah Parts's two point zero the Ohio

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Speaker 1: State guy. There are a lot of guys like that.

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Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of like this guy's an all

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Speaker 1: around pass rushing, defensive, run stuffing edge guy, So it's

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Speaker 1: you get paid to rush the passer college too?

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Speaker 2: Really a good question.

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Speaker 1: My question for the pod is do you share the

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Speaker 1: same optimism as me when it comes to the Chargers

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Speaker 1: chance of winning the Super Bowl in the next year.

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Speaker 1: I think we have a major advantage with Jim having

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Speaker 1: familiarity with the players in the draft and having a

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Speaker 1: top five quarterback, two great tackles, some young studs, and

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Speaker 1: some young weapons. Thanks and advantage, I would buy Charger stock. Right,

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Speaker 1: Let's just let's just say this the Chargers were on

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Speaker 1: the stock market, and let's just say they are currently

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Speaker 1: a one hundred dollars stock. I'd be like, I easily

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Speaker 1: could see this thing going to three fifty in the

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Speaker 1: next three years.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I'm here's what I do know with Jim Harbaugh that

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Speaker 1: one hundred dollars is not going to be fifty, right,

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Speaker 1: So now is it going to go to one seventy

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Speaker 1: five or is it going to go to four hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty. I do think it has a huge upside.

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Speaker 1: So I was telling someone this the other day. Though

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Speaker 1: the Slater injury, like he had a devastating the injury,

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Speaker 1: there is a chance that he's never the same but

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Speaker 1: you got joeled, so it's it wouldn't be as crippling,

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Speaker 1: but you just gave him a lot of money so

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Speaker 1: that that could impact financially the salary cap a little

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Speaker 1: bit if he's never the same, which I'm rooting for

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Speaker 1: him to get it right. But it was bad, and

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Speaker 1: I think it was like iyuk right, ligaments, knee. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's anytime, the patella, the ligaments, the acl. It's

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Speaker 1: a problem question for the show. Do you think Lafleur

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Speaker 1: is that bad of a coach?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I've never said that. This might be confirmation by it.

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Speaker 1: I've never been high on Love, but I personally think

651
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Speaker 1: j low, Oh, that's Jordan Love. I get thrown off

652
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: sometimes when I see that. I started thinking about Jennifer,

653
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: who still looks fantastic at fifty five. Isn't as good

654
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: as people think. No one complained about Lafleur when he

655
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: revolutionized Roger's career, or when Love was on a heater

656
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: going into the Dallas game. I don't think he forgot

657
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: out of coach. Love's inconsistency and bad turnovers make him

658
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: an average quarterback and he needs a good run game

659
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: to put up points. I just don't think generally it's

660
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: good business to fire a coach who instantly became a

661
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: top candidate available every other team looking. Would every other

662
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,239
Speaker 1: team looking, But hey, maybe I'm wrong. I don't think

663
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: he'd be a lock to get a job if he

664
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Speaker 1: got fired, but I do think he'd.

665
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: Have a pretty good chance.

666
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Speaker 1: I think someone mentioned this the other day with Atlanta.

667
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm with you on Love. I mean, sometimes you get

668
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: in business with a quarterback who is valued because his

669
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: stock's a little higher. But that's this highs he's ever

670
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: gonna reach. But he's not that bad. Your standard is

671
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: so high. So like Jordan Love is held to that

672
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: standard of the heater and the way he played against Dallas.

673
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: We're clearly the last couple of years. Like he's solid.

674
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: Like if you do a good job, you got good

675
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: personnel round him, you're gonna win ten to twelve games, right,

676
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: they won eleven last year? Want one to five in

677
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: the division?

678
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: They what are they?

679
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: Five to three and one? So that's nine games. So

680
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: if they went I guess if they won eight, it

681
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: got eight games left four and four, you'd probably want

682
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: to go like five and three, you get ten wins

683
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: it's ten eleven win quarterback with an awesome defense. Yeah,

684
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: it's not great. I mean you'd want a little bit

685
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: more for the money. Yeah, I think you might be

686
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Speaker 1: on I would say Lafloor. If I get pick one,

687
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Speaker 1: I'd probably take Jordan Love. Like I think what Jordan

688
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: Love is. He's somewhere like ten to fifteen and it's

689
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: on you as a team builder to build the right team.

690
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: But he's better than a lot of quarterbacks. A lot

691
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: of people talk about Jordan Love. I love the next

692
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. He has elite traits like Lawrence, and they

693
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: both have high ceiling playoff moments. However, they don't process well.

694
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: Both pick up injuries and have some wild brain fade

695
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: and accuracy moments. Are they actually good quarterbacks beyond the traits?

696
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: I would take Jordan Love over Trevor Lawrence. I would,

697
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: But I'm not a Trevor Lawrence guy at all. Most

698
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are gonna have massive brain farts, right, and that

699
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: includes the top guys. But you can live with it

700
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: because the top guys are so elite. If we go

701
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: with the crew like after five or six, right, So

702
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: you're talking the daks, the Purdies, the Jordan loves like

703
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: in that world. Right, I wouldn't even.

704
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: Put Trevor Lawrence in that world.

705
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: CJ. Stroud, Like, you gotta live with the good in

706
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: the bat and that's most people. Like most people are

707
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: not Michael Jordan or Lebron James, but like you can

708
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: compete for a championship with the high level all star.

709
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: Right, most people are.

710
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: Not show Hao Time or Aaron Judge, but you can

711
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: win a ton of games with like the Dude Seattle

712
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: and the Twins half. So I just think it's easy

713
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: to see all the negative and just write the guy off.

714
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: But also there was a law of averages, Like you

715
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: went from Farv to Rogers. Farv, who is a won

716
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: three straight MVPs, won a Super Bowl, went back to

717
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: another is widely considered one of the greatest quarterbacks of

718
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: all time. You upgraded. Think about that, you upgraded. It

719
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: was now Montana is better than young But same deal.

720
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: Anytime you go back to back Hall of Famers at

721
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: quarterback for twenty plus years, it's unheard of the third guy.

722
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: It's like the forty nine ers third guy was Jeff Garcia.

723
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: He was going to Pro Bowls. They were going to

724
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs.

725
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: Like, that's that's pretty good. It's actually pretty impressive that

726
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: you were able to transition to a guy.

727
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: That you drafted too. I just think he's kind of

728
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: held to his own standard in the Dallas playoff game

729
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: what Packer fans are used to with Rogers.

730
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 2: And also, like their.

731
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: Defense is sweet, So it's like, you got a sweet defense.

732
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 3: We need more wins. Shit, Bo Knicks skips balls half

733
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: the game and.

734
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: They still find ways to win. No, granted they have

735
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: like I think they have like fifty sacks through like

736
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: early November. How come velocity isn't the thing. I'd love

737
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: to know how hard Kleb Williams throws the ball.

738
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: That's a good question.

739
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: I never hear any of my buddies in the league

740
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: bring it up. I'm pretty sure it's tracked because they

741
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: definitely track speed, like speed we know fast guys are running,

742
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: which is Bill Simmons is a funny rant, like, so

743
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: what the guy's running twenty two miles? Now, what does

744
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: that even mean? Like there's no context. Right if I say, hey,

745
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: Jordan Love threw seven touchdowns in the game, we would

746
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: all know, like that's incredible, right, or so and so

747
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: through four interceptions in the game, you're like, oh, that's

748
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: that's like historically bad.

749
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: Right, two pick sixes.

750
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: But you give me these miles an hour compared to what, like,

751
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: compared to a golf cart, compared to like, did Deshaun

752
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: Jackson run thirty miles an hour? Do you run twenty? Like?

753
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, So I'm with you on the velocity

754
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: they do the they do it at the combine. I'm

755
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: not sure it's a great question. I could text someone

756
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: in the NFL and find that out. Do you guys

757
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: see stats on how hard guys are throwing? Caleb is

758
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: Caleb has a fucking cannon. Which sport has the widest

759
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: and narrowest gap between college and professional levels? Football, basketball,

760
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: or golf? Appreciate all you do in congrats on becoming

761
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: a father.

762
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 2: I love this question.

763
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Speaker 1: I would say, like, there are a lot of guys

764
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: on the Alabama LSU field. When I say a lot,

765
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: like there's a percentage of people, I would say fifty

766
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: percent of the players. So if there's twenty two guys

767
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: Alabama LSU, but there's more than that because you got

768
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: rotating guys in the out Let's just say thirty guys,

769
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: give or take, are consistently playing for both teams. So

770
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: it's sixty players. You know, probably thirty to thirty five

771
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: of those guys are gonna be NFL draft picks.

772
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: Right.

773
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: Same thing with Alabama, Georgia or you know, Oklahoma, Georgia,

774
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: like the big time Ohio State, Oregon. You got a

775
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: ton of draftable guys. But even the guys that don't

776
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: get drafted, like they wouldn't be a good player by

777
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: any means. They could just play a game at right guard. Now,

778
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: if you're like a right guard and you're not, maybe

779
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: you go to a rookie mini camp. Maybe you don't,

780
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: Maybe you just your career ends as a three year

781
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: starter at LSU at right guard, you could go to

782
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 1: the NFL and play a game. Now you might be terrible, right.

783
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: I think in basketball there is a pretty big difference

784
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: between because we see it all the time, like in

785
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: the tournament, smaller schools.

786
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 2: Beat bigger schools.

787
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: I actually think there's a smaller gap between just the

788
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: dude playing points guard at Alabama that won't be an

789
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: NBA player but could play a game with NBA players

790
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: and kind of fit in for a game. Now, could

791
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: he make a career of it.

792
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: Obviously not.

793
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: I think the gap in golf.

794
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: Is pretty wide.

795
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: I think as someone that watched and I've played with

796
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: a lot of college golfers, there's a pretty big difference,

797
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: which was being like on the golf team at UCLA

798
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 1: and playing on the PGA Tour, right, I think it's easy.

799
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: It's by far the easiest if you are a Division one,

800
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: especially a power for player, to make it to OTAs

801
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: or even make it to like a week of training

802
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: camp doesn't mean you're going to play in the NFL,

803
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you'll ever sniff a practice squad. I think

804
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: it's easier to do that than it is just I

805
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: played at UCLA and I played in a couple of

806
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: tour events. That is way more difficult to do. To

807
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: make an NBA roster unless your dad's Lebron is very hard.

808
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: So I would say football, the GAP's probably the smallest.

809
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: Golf.

810
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: For basketball, i'd lean is the widest.

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00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: Great question.

812
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: In baseball, I would say baseball is a little like golf.

813
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: It's just so hard to get there. I saw a

814
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: headline like, could Kyler Murray go play baseball? You think

815
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, who's been making was he making forty forty

816
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year, who was the number one

817
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: overall draft pick, who signed a thirty five million dollar contract,

818
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: is gonna get on a fucking bus even if they're like, hey,

819
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: we'll let you go to Double A. You think he's

820
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: gonna go to Double A. I think I have a

821
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: better chance of teeing it up at the Masters or

822
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: coaching the New York Football Giants. Then Kyler Murray does

823
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: playing minor league baseball games on buses for six months

824
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: a year, because you don't just go to the bigs hell,

825
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: you're not even close to the bigs If he tran

826
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: when's the last time you think he played baseball?

827
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Speaker 2: So I just laughed.

828
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, these are like unnamed NFL executives saying this.

829
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: You think he's gonna go to the minor leagues? I

830
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: think he'd be more likely to just retire and just

831
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: go chill then play minor league baseball after experience what

832
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: he's experienced, I would be I'd fall out of my chair.

833
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: I'd be that stunted. I'd be shell shocked.

834
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: Why does the NFL allow super slow motion to review

835
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: catches and fumbles but refuse it for false starts and

836
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: push push plays. Keep hearing real time it's too hard

837
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: to officiate. Well, it has something to do with like

838
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: dead ball fouls, right, I can't review. There was a

839
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: play I think it was in the Niner Rams game.

840
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: It was like fourth and two and Kittle came in

841
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: motion and before they can snap the ball, he has

842
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: to become set. Well, they threw the flag saying he

843
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: wasn't set. He ended up getting a completion, was a

844
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: first down, but they said it was you know, he

845
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: wasn't set. So the play did in and they got

846
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: a five yard penalty. Even though they replayed and Tom

847
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: Brady was like, he's definitely set.

848
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: They screwed up.

849
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: But you can't you can't challenge that, right, just like

850
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: I can't challenge if they don't call it on the

851
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: field my guard tackle jumping early, But I can I

852
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: can challenge in the once the ball is snapped. I

853
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: can challenge a lot of those plays. Now. I don't

854
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: think you can challenge like past interference anymore. But you

855
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: can't challenge like defensive holding. But I don't know. I

856
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: I you'd have to ask like Andy Reid and the

857
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: guys on the on the competition committee, how they pick

858
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: and choose that. Belichick's whole thing always was, you should

859
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: be able to challenge any given play. I have two challenges,

860
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: and if I get it right, I get it back

861
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. And if I get it wrong, I lose

862
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: the timeout or whatever the rule is. We know, do

863
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: I know the rules? You get two challenges. If you

864
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: get a challenge wrong, you lose a challenge and you

865
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: lose the time out. Pretty sure that's right. But his

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00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: whole thing was, you should be able to challenge any play.

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Speaker 1: I should be a challenged if you're off sides, if

868
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: they're whatever. But they are just unchallengeable plays. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. They tried the past interference thing. It

870
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: clearly didn't work. Love the show. I would like your

871
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: thoughts on firing real life people versus firing of NFL

872
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: players and head coaches. Thanks, well, I think a major difference.

873
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: Why you know? For example, I mean I literally talk

874
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: about this stuff for a living. When you get fired

875
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: at a regular person job, typically you're an at will employee,

876
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: and most human beings don't have contracts, right, so when

877
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: you have a contract, as Brian Dball does, I don't

878
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: even know the details of his contract. Let's just make

879
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: him up. Let's say he still had next year on

880
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: his contract as well, they would owe him. Let's just

881
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: pick a number seven and a half million dollars for

882
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: next year in twenty twenty six. So does anyone ge

883
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: to feel even Mi Kafka, who will probably get fired at.

884
00:43:59,280 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: The end of the year.

885
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: Let's just I hope he doesn't, but it's probably making

886
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: two million dollars.

887
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: So when NFL.

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Speaker 1: Players, like, if you're a guy whoever, it's one thing.

889
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: If you're like an undrafted free agent, you get fired,

890
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: you didn't make any money, so you have a lot

891
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: in colm with the regular person.

892
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: But like when an.

893
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: Older veteran guy gets fired one, they owe him any

894
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: of the guaranteed money that they haven't paid him in

895
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: two Like he has money, so like part of the

896
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: reason we all work is to provide for our families. Right,

897
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Speaker 1: the reason I'm doing this podcast is to generate money

898
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: to pay the bills here, right, Obviously I enjoy doing this,

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Speaker 1: but if it didn't pay, I couldn't. I'd have to

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Speaker 1: find something else to do, like the mortgage. Just do

901
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: every month, right, My my air conditioning bill is really

902
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: high because I like it cold, but I mean that

903
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: doesn't pay itself. So a huge part why we feel

904
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: sympathy for a normal human being who gets fired from

905
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: his job.

906
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: I have as well.

907
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: When I did not get my contract renewed in Philadelphia,

908
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: I didn't have any money coming in. My contract ended,

909
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, we're not renewing it. It's like it

910
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: just over. Like a lot of people, you just you

911
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: just end. Now you can get unemployment or whatever. But

912
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: most the average income in America is what like sixty grand.

913
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: Now it depends where you live, Like in California it's higher,

914
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: in North Dakota it's lower. But like I feel like

915
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly just they owe n fifty three million dollars

916
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: James Franklin, but it's not even just him, Like the

917
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: position coaches now in the NFL make five hundred to

918
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: nine hundred thousand dollars. They're they're the top like one

919
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: and a half percenters in America. So they just have

920
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: more now. Listen, their life's hard and their public figures

921
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: and people talk shit about him coaches, you know, and players.

922
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: But as Don Draper said, that's what the money's for.

923
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: You know, I think the dude that gets fired with

924
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: no money and no contract would gladly have some people

925
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: talking about him for ten million dollars. I know that,

926
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: so I would say the big difference is just the

927
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Speaker 1: money now obviously, like if you're a CEO of a company,

928
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: you actually have more in common with players and coaches.

929
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Niner fan, and my buddies a Vikings fan.

930
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: With both of the teams looking like a wash, we're

931
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: debating which team, the Vikings with the Niners can get

932
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: back to competing quicker the Niners. If they win this week,

933
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: they would be seven and four with the Panthers, the Browns,

934
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: and the Titans. So like the Niners probably get ten wins,

935
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: there's a decent chance depending on how the Bears go. Obviously,

936
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: the Niners and Bears play each other, but the Bear

937
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: schedule gets really hard that if the Niners got the

938
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: ten and the Bears only got the nine, even if

939
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: the Bears beat them, the Niners would be the seventh seed.

940
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: The Niners will make the playoffs, so regardless of how

941
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: many guys they've lost with injury, which is a lot,

942
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: they still could make the le even if they're one

943
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 1: and done, like that's a I think that's a pretty

944
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: impressive accomplishment given that their backup quarterback, you know, won

945
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: them five games potentially, and we'll see if perty's how

946
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: many games he's able to play if he goes back.

947
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: If I was a.

948
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Speaker 1: Head coach with the newly drafted quarterback, I think there

949
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: are three main things I would want to see from

950
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: him in this first year. Every game, I'd want him

951
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: to make at least two or three high level NFL

952
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: throws every game. I'd want him to learn from and

953
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: correct at least one mistake made in the previous game.

954
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: By the end of the season. I'd want him to

955
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: just simply look better than he looked in the beginning,

956
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: even if his stats don't change much. And if I

957
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: knew I was guaranteed to not get fired, I wouldn't

958
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: care at all about how many games we won as

959
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: long as the quarterback looks like our guy. Is there

960
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: anything you would add to this, Well, usually the guys

961
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Speaker 1: are playing on bad teams. You're going to be throwing

962
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: twenty five thirty forty times a game, so I'm going

963
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: to need more than two or three throws I would need.

964
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: I would need like specific examples of we'd need improvement

965
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: in the red zone throughout the season. We would need

966
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: improvement on third down throughout the season. Situations of understanding

967
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: like I'm getting nitty gritty football here, but how to

968
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: handle different pressures, the understanding of the offense in relation

969
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: to pressures and coverages, and knowing where to go when

970
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: I need to go there obviously rapport with my skill.

971
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Speaker 2: Guys.

972
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Speaker 1: I think there's a naturally like the learn from one mistake.

973
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's just football one on one. You know,

974
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: you play a game, the coaches go over the film

975
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: and then they correct it with you. It's like Kyle

976
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: Shanahan's big thing is most coaches, you know, like in

977
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: a locker room, when you win a game, they're like,

978
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: see you Wednesday. He they work every Monday because he

979
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: believes that you know, by Wednesday, you've already forgotten a

980
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: lot of the game. So when you go over the

981
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: corrections with the coach, like it's you have like a

982
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: two and a half day gap where he automatically I

983
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what time it is, maybe it's like noon,

984
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: but they just do film correction even if they're not

985
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: gonna practice. And I mean that's that's you started doing

986
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: that stuff in high school. So to me that the

987
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: correction stuff is natural. But I think it's more you

988
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: would like to see if there's a certain defense or

989
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: pressure that he struggles with. The more and more he

990
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: sees that, the more and more he adapts to it.

991
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: Obviously you would naturally Probably it's the NFL, so you're

992
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: gonna be in some close games. How he handles two minute,

993
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: four minute situations? How he handles can he get us,

994
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, in a game winning field goal situation? Can

995
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: he run out the clock if we have a ten

996
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: point lead with six minutes left? Can he lead a

997
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: drive that you know helps get five six minutes off

998
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: the clock? Obviously some of that it's on the running back.

999
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: But and then there's the stuff that it's hard to quantify,

1000
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: like what's he like his practice habits, what times he

1001
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: get into the facility, how's he you know, his film

1002
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 1: study ability of the opponents, working with the backup quarterback,

1003
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: working with a quarterback coach, you know, approaching recovery. Right football,

1004
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: the seasons a lot longer in the pros that like

1005
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: even Ohio State or Notre Dame, if they play fifteen

1006
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: games like you're automatically playing seventeen right, so you just

1007
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: playing more games. And even in the college situation, you

1008
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: play the twelve Like if you're Notre Dame, you play

1009
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: twelve games. And then let's say you make it to

1010
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: the national championship. Well, you got a two week break

1011
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: before the first playoff game, then you got a ten

1012
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: day break, like there aren't you get one bye? You're

1013
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 1: playing Thursday games. You just it's the NFL season.

1014
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: Is a marathon.

1015
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: So how you handle that improve on you know, the

1016
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: way you go about it to make it easier on yourself.

1017
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: Obviously it's a learning experience, but I think there are

1018
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: a lot of intangible stuff that a guy can improve on.

1019
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: Well is experience. I mean, I'm a huge believer and

1020
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: the more you do something, the naturally better you get

1021
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: at it. A lot of people are hitting me up.

1022
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: I got asked the question, would I'd rather have one guy?

1023
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: I got two running backs. One running back guarantees me

1024
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: one hundred yards every single game, no more, no less,

1025
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: or one running back that guarantees me two yard to carry,

1026
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: no more, no less. And a lot of people said, well,

1027
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: you can use that running back in two point situations.

1028
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: Basically every two pointer or you would get in every

1029
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: short yard of situation you would get as well. It's like, yeah,

1030
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: maybe I didn't think of that. I do believe if

1031
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm an offensive coach, especially if we have a good offense,

1032
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: I should be pretty good in short yardage. I might

1033
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: not have the push push, but I the one hundred

1034
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1035
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: good team, because I can run up the clock in

1036
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Speaker 1: the third and fourth quarter. So I hear a lot

1037
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Speaker 1: of people pushing back on that. But maybe I'm a

1038
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1039
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Speaker 1: in between YouTube and Disney. Since the NFL owns the

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Speaker 1: rights to their games, would it be possible for the

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Speaker 1: Seems fair to the consumer, and I'm sure the NFL

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want to lose ratings. I saw the ratings college

1065
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,080
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Speaker 1: makes sense. I mean, there's a lot of us that

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Speaker 1: just don't have access to it. I would imagine this

1069
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1070
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1071
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Speaker 1: Because you have to remember, too, who's the NFL in

1072
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1073
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Speaker 1: just want all their games on TV for everyone to consume.

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Speaker 1: But this is I would imagine they've probably already made

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00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: some just quiet, preliminary kind of overtures like hey, guys,

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00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: what's going on? You give it like a month of

1081
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: no Monday Night football for YouTube TV consumers. People are

1082
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: gonna get antsy. And I'm talking rog I'm talking the

1083
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: owners like this this is their bread and butter. This

1084
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: is where they make their money. What if I told

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00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: you the ESPN and YouTube will collude against them trying

1086
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: to screw them, You never know. You can convince me.

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Speaker 1: I saw some funny conspiracies about Nico Harrison in the

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Speaker 1: NBA and Luca. I mean, I've always had some too.

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00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: I've never known exactly how to connect it all. I

1090
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: just always thought something was shady it's crazy, you know,

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00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: you make a big trade in the NFL or just

1092
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: sports in general, like it can go wrong, right the

1093
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons thing, there's risk involved in that. For the Packers,

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00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: you're giving them a ton of money. You're giving up

1095
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: two first round picks, Sas Gardner, Like all these trades,

1096
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: there is no guarantee. Even when the Eagles traded for

1097
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: aj Brown, it's like, he better be an elite player.

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00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: We're given him a ton of money, and a lot

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00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: of times when we're trading for a great player, you

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00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about it. I don't think the Luca

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00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: trade in the middle of the night with Nico Harrison

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00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: is just It's just one of those. The most NBA

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00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: story of all time was Sham's reporting that Nico was

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00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: going to be fired in two more he scheduled to

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00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: meet in two hours. That's where like conspiracy me who

1106
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: just falls sports for a long time, goes, did Nico

1107
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: leak two shams that? Like, I got a meeting. I

1108
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: know they're gonna fire me because that's what I'd probably

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Speaker 1: put my money on. But pains me. I hate the Lakers,

1110
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Speaker 1: But skinny Luca, I think he's averaging like seventy five

1111
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: points a game and just dominating the league. It's just

1112
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: one of those that I think it's the worst one

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Speaker 1: of all time. I really do like we have some

1114
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Speaker 1: of those going on right now in the NFL. It's

1115
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones is playing great for the Coles. I

1116
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: think all Giants fans go, listen, he never was gonna

1117
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 1: do that for us, Or like Christian McCaffery gets traded

1118
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: from the Panthers and then a year later he has

1119
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: like one of the great seasons of all times, Like

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00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: that wasn't gonna happen here. But if you're like a

1121
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: MAVs fan, like Luca was doing that here. He was

1122
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: All NBA every single year. He took us to the finals.

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Speaker 1: What the bleep is going on? And he goes like, sweet,

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00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm out have fun.

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Speaker 2: Here's Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 1: I just I that one man all timer.

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Speaker 2: Have a great day.

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Speaker 1: The volume m HM