WEBVTT - What's the difference between deodorant and antiperspirant?

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know

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<v Speaker 1>from House Stuff Works dot com Audi, Welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant, Josh Clark Here, This is Josh. That's Chuck. Hi, Hi, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing? I'm doing well, Josh. But something

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<v Speaker 1>something stinks. That's not me, Chuck, that's actually Michael Wax.

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<v Speaker 1>You played poker occasionally, but not really. Are you familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with Michael Wax? Now? He is a professional poker player.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a big guy, four forty pounds, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>recently ejected from the Borgottic casino in Atlantic City for

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<v Speaker 1>um an unpleasant smell. Basically, he uh, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a big guy. He'd been playing seventeen hours straight,

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<v Speaker 1>so apparently he was on a roll. But I guess

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<v Speaker 1>he'd also failed to shower him between I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they didn't comp a room for him or

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<v Speaker 1>anything for you know, a half hour or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Mr Wax was ejected. No no word on

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<v Speaker 1>his winnings or anything like that. Well, I hope it

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<v Speaker 1>was enough to buy some soap in the odor and

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine so, I imagine so. And you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you were close enough to Mr Wax, you'd probably think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know, it's body odor. It smells like

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<v Speaker 1>anybody odor I've ever smelt. But were you to really

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<v Speaker 1>get up under there and you had a really good scent,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe you're a professional sniffer for a perfume company

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, you would notice that he has a very

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<v Speaker 1>distinct what is called an odor type. And all of

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<v Speaker 1>us apparently have a unique odor type. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>much about oder types? Uh? Well, I know that we

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<v Speaker 1>we do all have one. And uh it's genetically based

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<v Speaker 1>and it can be also environmental to write like what

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<v Speaker 1>you eat. Yeah, so, so basically, there was one study

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand six that found that vegetarians emit a

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<v Speaker 1>more pleasant body odor than meat eater. They smell like broccoli,

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<v Speaker 1>and we smell like steak. That's gross. I would rather

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<v Speaker 1>smell like steak any day of the week too. There

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<v Speaker 1>was there's another study in ninety five that found that

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<v Speaker 1>a pregnant woman's body odor was actually a combination of

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<v Speaker 1>the mothers and the fetus's um body odor smell. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fascinating and based on my own personal observations, as

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<v Speaker 1>unscientific as it maybe, I've concluded, Chuck that your body

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<v Speaker 1>odor is based on your love of hot rod racing

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<v Speaker 1>and those delicious morning smoothies you make. Yeah, well, you know, Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>based on my findings, I've I found that you smell

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<v Speaker 1>like a mix of circus peanuts and old footballs and

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<v Speaker 1>desperation and desperation, so strange combinations. Yeah, so it works.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is is, um, we do have our own

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<v Speaker 1>specific odor types. We don't know precisely what makes what

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<v Speaker 1>and and I don't think any has really been catalogued yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Look for that in the future when somebody ends up

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of excessive funding. Um. But we do

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple of theories of why we smell. There's

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<v Speaker 1>this anthropologist named Leu's Leaky and he postulated that we

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<v Speaker 1>actually smell um evolutionarily speaking to ward off predators, which

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<v Speaker 1>is something we had to deal with before. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>so much anymore unless you're like a lion tamer or

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<v Speaker 1>a hill billy that kind of thing. Um, So now

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<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of offensive to to a degree, right right, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you do? Well, I would use deodorant

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<v Speaker 1>or cold or I would use antipersprint. Aren't they the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing? Why would you even go so far as

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<v Speaker 1>to say both, I mean it's the same thing, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not the same thing, And I think anyone that

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<v Speaker 1>pays attention in the supermarket of the pharmacy knows there's

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<v Speaker 1>antipersprint and there's deodorant. That is true. I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were different spellings. Well what's the difference. Well, one

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<v Speaker 1>keeps you from sweating and actually, uh stops you from sweating,

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<v Speaker 1>and one is just a perfume to mask odor. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well it was very sustained that that's the easy answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that your body odor doesn't actually emanate

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<v Speaker 1>from your from your your glands, from your sweat? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you do? You know where your smell actually comes from,

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<v Speaker 1>something with bacteria, And it does. It does. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>got two kinds of sweat glands. Um. One is the

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<v Speaker 1>ecrine gland, and it just excretes salt and water and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no smell to that. The other is the apocrine gland,

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<v Speaker 1>and this one actually is in charge of carrying um,

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<v Speaker 1>fat and protein secretions from your cells. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know myself secreted fats and Approacheinus gross um. But it

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<v Speaker 1>carries it through these glands or these ducks to the

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<v Speaker 1>glands and then out onto your skin, where there's plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of native flora, which is another name for bacteria. And

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<v Speaker 1>your smell is actually your the bacteria chowing down on

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<v Speaker 1>these fats and proteins. That is so gnarly I can't

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<v Speaker 1>get to this podcast. But yeah, and of course you've

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<v Speaker 1>got um, you know the most the most both of

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<v Speaker 1>these types of gland sweat glands under your arm an

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<v Speaker 1>exact axillary area. The armpit, as everyone knows, is generally

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<v Speaker 1>where the stink comes from, right, which is why we

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<v Speaker 1>very infrequently put deodorant, or as Chuck calls it, antiperspirant,

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<v Speaker 1>on the back of your neck. Um. That'd just be weird,

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<v Speaker 1>although it would have a similar effect, I imagine, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just nobody's you know, next smells all that bad. Um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know much of the history of deodorance and

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<v Speaker 1>anti Well, I know that it kind of started in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties in the United States, at least, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it became a social taboo to smell in the fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>right and watch Madman. Well, I was just gonna bring

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<v Speaker 1>that up here because I don't want it. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of my favorite new shows. I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>late to it, but I've been watching it on the

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<v Speaker 1>on demand feature and uh, there was an episode that

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<v Speaker 1>dealt with anti pershmint spray and this is when the

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<v Speaker 1>show is set and how they sold it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they said, uh, you're not afraid to get

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<v Speaker 1>close or don't be afraid to get close, which recalls

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<v Speaker 1>get a little closer from I think Arid Extra Dry

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<v Speaker 1>was Oodorant that use that. So it's it's interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>what they're implying is with a lot of advertising is

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<v Speaker 1>is sex, get a little closer, don't be afraid to

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<v Speaker 1>get close to your husband, and uh, I just think,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the show in general is really neat. That

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen fifties and sixties when add the advertising

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<v Speaker 1>boom really started is where I mean a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we we have today and social taboos

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<v Speaker 1>like they were told to us by these admin in

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<v Speaker 1>New York in the nineteen fifties and sixties and people

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<v Speaker 1>bought into it, and all these years later, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to stink because you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>a little closer exactly. And conversely, if you do stink,

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<v Speaker 1>you should be afraid to get closer, right, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>that it's really paid off. In two thousands six, just

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<v Speaker 1>any pursh prints and deodorants accounted for two point five

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars in sales, and me, think about it, what

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<v Speaker 1>their four bucks tops for you? Anything you find at

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<v Speaker 1>the grocery store right, Um, and uh, it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>I have a I've developed a theory about deodor and

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<v Speaker 1>any perspirant sales. So there are three big things on

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<v Speaker 1>the horizon that I think are going to cause the

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<v Speaker 1>deodorant and any persprint market to fluctuate. You want to hear,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to, Okay. So the first is baby boomers.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out that in in your fifties, right in

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties to the sixties, range um, deodorant use kind

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<v Speaker 1>of falls off. You don't need it quite as much.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need it or you don't you're not bothered

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<v Speaker 1>by your smell. Either way, People in their fifties start

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<v Speaker 1>to use less deodorant than they did when they were younger.

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<v Speaker 1>That actually affects the market. And we've got a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of baby boomers we're hitting fifties, sixties, seventy now just

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<v Speaker 1>walking around stinking pretty much? Have you smelled your parents lately?

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<v Speaker 1>To try to keep my nose away from precisely precisely right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>with all of this, this this huge aging population going

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<v Speaker 1>on right now, I predict that the deodorant in any

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<v Speaker 1>persprint market will decline because of that. But but you're ready.

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<v Speaker 1>I also predict that they that market will be helped

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<v Speaker 1>by global warming because summer sales for are just the biggest,

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<v Speaker 1>bulkiest season for deodorants and nanty purse prints. With climate change,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to have longer, hotter summers, right, And hence

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<v Speaker 1>the deodorant nanny purseprint market will soldier on. They'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to bounce back from that discrepancy. And the third

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<v Speaker 1>thing I think will bump it up even further, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>bovine growth hormones. It's all over the place. It's in milk,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in beef, it's i I believe, in chickens, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's causing early onset puberty in children. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know that your your glands that that make you stink.

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<v Speaker 1>For lack of a bitter word, they don't come around

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<v Speaker 1>so you're like eleven to eleven twelve until about the

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<v Speaker 1>time you hit puberty. Right, if puberty starts at age

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<v Speaker 1>eight all of a sudden, now thanks to drinking regular milk, um,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're going to need deodorant soon. So that will

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<v Speaker 1>expand the market, the younger market for deodorant nanty perspart companies.

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<v Speaker 1>These are just some theories for amblings that come up

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<v Speaker 1>with They come to me in my sleep, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. But I wake up thinking about deodorant all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, so do I. It's more market stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>that I think of. But in this case, it was

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<v Speaker 1>applied to deodorant, so chuck, Maybe we should get a

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<v Speaker 1>little more specific, like how does deodorant work versus how

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<v Speaker 1>does this any persport you keep talking about work? Well, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, deodorants don't keep you from sweating, so all

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<v Speaker 1>they can do is, uh, you apply it to your excella,

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<v Speaker 1>your armpit, Yeah, your armpit, and that that just masks

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<v Speaker 1>the smell. It's a perfume to an extent, fill me

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<v Speaker 1>in So basically it also most deodorants today include a

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<v Speaker 1>um and an ingredient that actually kills the bacteria, triclosan. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've got that that native flora on your under arms,

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<v Speaker 1>on the skin, and that your cells are still carrying

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<v Speaker 1>the fats and proteins, or the the facts and proteins

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<v Speaker 1>from yourselves are still being carried to your skin. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no bacteria there to eat them, hence no smell, right right,

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<v Speaker 1>And they also include perfumes too. But what about andy pursprints. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the antie pershprint actually plugs the glands with things like

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<v Speaker 1>aluminum and zirconium, which is kind of scary if you

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, and that keeps the sweat from ever

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<v Speaker 1>being produced in theory. In theory, yes, so any perspants

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<v Speaker 1>don't let you sweat at all, well if if they're effective.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was doing a little research, a little extra

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<v Speaker 1>research for this article, and there's this New York Times

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<v Speaker 1>article by a guy named Anthony Ramirez that it came across.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awesome, um, and he was talking about a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about the history of andy pershprint's. The first patented

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<v Speaker 1>one ever was called ever Dry and it came onto

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<v Speaker 1>the market in nineteen o three. You had to apply

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<v Speaker 1>it using a swab to the armpit and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so acidic that it actually ate through clothing and people

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<v Speaker 1>were putting this on their under arm. It's progressed quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit so far. Yeah, and and know that it's

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<v Speaker 1>still there's a lot of controversy over the use of

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<v Speaker 1>aluminum in products. It could post some health benefits, and actually,

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<v Speaker 1>UM deodorance and Annie purse prints are considered over the

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<v Speaker 1>counter drugs and are regulated by the FDA. Right, that's crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly in part because of the health the health hazards,

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<v Speaker 1>potential health hazards like what well, potentially could be linked

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<v Speaker 1>to cancer. I think most people have heard that aluminum

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<v Speaker 1>deodorance can be linked to cancer by by causing DNA mutation, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's another one that's a little a little weirder,

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<v Speaker 1>right with the kidney disease. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So, like

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<v Speaker 1>I think two thousand to two thousand five something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, this warning label pops up on

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<v Speaker 1>deodorance and it says, uh, ask your doctor about kidney

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<v Speaker 1>disease or something like that. Um. And it just came

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<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere, and there was never any really good

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<v Speaker 1>explanation for it. Um. But it turns out that aluminium

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<v Speaker 1>can also cause kidney poisoning, right, right, or if you

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<v Speaker 1>have impaired kidney functioning, it can sinum out of the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's possible all sorts of bad things could happen

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<v Speaker 1>to you, which is why, for my understanding, eleven of

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<v Speaker 1>the population doesn't use of the American population, I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't use deodorant or uses an off brand, which leads

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<v Speaker 1>me to wonder, what is an off brand deodorant? And

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<v Speaker 1>why would you use it? Like, do you have like

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<v Speaker 1>a friend down the street who whips it up for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not just go get it? At this story? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe what they mean bof brand it might

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<v Speaker 1>be wrong, is maybe some of these all natural deodorants, No,

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<v Speaker 1>those are included. They have made such headway into this

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<v Speaker 1>market that the niche market like Tom's of Maine you mean,

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<v Speaker 1>has actually expanded their huge players. So what they mean

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<v Speaker 1>literally are these hippies that make up I guess although

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<v Speaker 1>hippies aren't necessarily known to use deodorant, let alone go

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<v Speaker 1>to the trouble to make their own. Now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the question for another day. The question for today,

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<v Speaker 1>which I advise you to go check out on how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff Works dot com, is what's the difference between deodorant

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<v Speaker 1>and anti persporant and stick around to find out which

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<v Speaker 1>articles homepage are really cracks chucking me up after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for hanging around, Chuck. You want to tell him,

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<v Speaker 1>I will. It's actually an article called how ativism works

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<v Speaker 1>or ativism and that's when humans have can grow little

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<v Speaker 1>tails or little nubbins on their body and the for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you don't know, we have a homepage art

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<v Speaker 1>that the writers themselves are in charge of finding a

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<v Speaker 1>are a little harder than others. And I guess ativism

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<v Speaker 1>is hard because writer Katie Lambert Clambert, Yeah Clambert. She

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<v Speaker 1>she her homepage art is a a little baby kind

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<v Speaker 1>the waist down with a with a cat's tail photoshops

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<v Speaker 1>onto it and it's it really just cracks me up

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<v Speaker 1>every time I see it. And Katie did a great

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<v Speaker 1>chop with it. You definitely did. Way to go, Katie.

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<v Speaker 1>You could check out this homepage art when you look

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