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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know

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Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot com Audi, Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant, Josh Clark Here, This is Josh. That's Chuck. Hi, Hi, Chuck.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? I'm doing well, Josh. But something

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Speaker 1: something stinks. That's not me, Chuck, that's actually Michael Wax.

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Speaker 1: You played poker occasionally, but not really. Are you familiar

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Speaker 1: with Michael Wax? Now? He is a professional poker player.

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Speaker 1: He's a big guy, four forty pounds, and he was

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Speaker 1: recently ejected from the Borgottic casino in Atlantic City for

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Speaker 1: um an unpleasant smell. Basically, he uh, like I said,

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Speaker 1: he's a big guy. He'd been playing seventeen hours straight,

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Speaker 1: so apparently he was on a roll. But I guess

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Speaker 1: he'd also failed to shower him between I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I guess they didn't comp a room for him or

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Speaker 1: anything for you know, a half hour or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Mr Wax was ejected. No no word on

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Speaker 1: his winnings or anything like that. Well, I hope it

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Speaker 1: was enough to buy some soap in the odor and

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Speaker 1: I imagine so, I imagine so. And you know, if

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Speaker 1: you were close enough to Mr Wax, you'd probably think, well,

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Speaker 1: this is you know, it's body odor. It smells like

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Speaker 1: anybody odor I've ever smelt. But were you to really

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Speaker 1: get up under there and you had a really good scent,

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Speaker 1: like maybe you're a professional sniffer for a perfume company

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Speaker 1: or whatever, you would notice that he has a very

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Speaker 1: distinct what is called an odor type. And all of

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Speaker 1: us apparently have a unique odor type. Do you know

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Speaker 1: much about oder types? Uh? Well, I know that we

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Speaker 1: we do all have one. And uh it's genetically based

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Speaker 1: and it can be also environmental to write like what

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Speaker 1: you eat. Yeah, so, so basically, there was one study

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Speaker 1: in two thousand six that found that vegetarians emit a

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Speaker 1: more pleasant body odor than meat eater. They smell like broccoli,

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Speaker 1: and we smell like steak. That's gross. I would rather

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Speaker 1: smell like steak any day of the week too. There

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Speaker 1: was there's another study in ninety five that found that

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Speaker 1: a pregnant woman's body odor was actually a combination of

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Speaker 1: the mothers and the fetus's um body odor smell. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fascinating and based on my own personal observations, as

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Speaker 1: unscientific as it maybe, I've concluded, Chuck that your body

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Speaker 1: odor is based on your love of hot rod racing

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Speaker 1: and those delicious morning smoothies you make. Yeah, well, you know, Josh,

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Speaker 1: based on my findings, I've I found that you smell

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Speaker 1: like a mix of circus peanuts and old footballs and

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Speaker 1: desperation and desperation, so strange combinations. Yeah, so it works.

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Speaker 1: The thing is is, um, we do have our own

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Speaker 1: specific odor types. We don't know precisely what makes what

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Speaker 1: and and I don't think any has really been catalogued yet.

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Speaker 1: Look for that in the future when somebody ends up

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Speaker 1: with a lot of excessive funding. Um. But we do

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Speaker 1: have a couple of theories of why we smell. There's

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Speaker 1: this anthropologist named Leu's Leaky and he postulated that we

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Speaker 1: actually smell um evolutionarily speaking to ward off predators, which

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Speaker 1: is something we had to deal with before. You don't

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Speaker 1: a hill billy that kind of thing. Um, So now

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Speaker 1: it's just kind of offensive to to a degree, right right, Um,

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Speaker 1: So what do you do? Well, I would use deodorant

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Speaker 1: or cold or I would use antipersprint. Aren't they the

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Speaker 1: same thing? Why would you even go so far as

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Speaker 1: to say both, I mean it's the same thing, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: antipersprint and there's deodorant. That is true. I just thought

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Speaker 1: and one is just a perfume to mask odor. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Did you know that your body odor doesn't actually emanate

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Speaker 1: you do? You know where your smell actually comes from,

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Speaker 1: something with bacteria, And it does. It does. So you've

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Speaker 1: got two kinds of sweat glands. Um. One is the

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Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties in the United States, at least, Well,

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Speaker 1: it became a social taboo to smell in the fifties,

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Speaker 1: right and watch Madman. Well, I was just gonna bring

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Speaker 1: that it's really paid off. In two thousands six, just

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Speaker 1: walking around stinking pretty much? Have you smelled your parents lately?

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Speaker 1: And they also include perfumes too. But what about andy pursprints. Well,

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