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Speaker 1: former Army intelligence officer who has served in Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 1: He's also been in combat with the Huthis, one of

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Speaker 1: about this. He's running for congress now in Arizona's eighth

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Speaker 1: A lot of it came down to the disruption that

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Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Lisa, going to be with you.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, we just lost three US soldiers and

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Speaker 1: we also go back to that disaster's withdrawal from Afghanistan,

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's tragic what happened with those three soldiers,

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Speaker 3: But when you saw, you know, we don't know, it's

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Speaker 3: too early to tell where the attacks originated from, where

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Speaker 3: this drone originated from. But you know, I actually served

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Speaker 3: I'm very concerned, though, Lisa, that this administration is not

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Speaker 3: So this was inevitable. Inevitable because if Biden administration right

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Speaker 3: Right? And if you look at the foreign policy disastrous

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this scary thing about where we are

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think if you look at what

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Speaker 3: Who's incapable of it too. I mean, he was out

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Speaker 3: So this is all going to be a margins game.

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Speaker 3: And that's why the Republicans, You're right, they need to

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Speaker 3: wake up very quickly. We need to be united heading

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Speaker 3: into twenty twenty four. In so many ways, this is

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Speaker 3: this is a do or dielection. How could our country

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Speaker 3: survive with the weaponization of the rule of law when

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Speaker 3: they try to take take out candidates running for office.

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Speaker 3: It is so scary, and I really I implore on

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Speaker 3: so all Republicans to stand united for what we believe

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Speaker 3: with this America First movement that we've built, and you know,

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Speaker 3: we have to stop fighting with amongst ourselves. But it

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Speaker 3: goes both ways. It's not just you know, the MAGA side,

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Speaker 3: but it's also the establishment too, who are refusing to

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Speaker 3: recognize the reality. Who knows if Biden's going to be

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Speaker 3: on the ballot in twenty twenty four. I mean that's

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Speaker 3: a very I mean people say it's a very realistic

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Speaker 3: possibility he's not going to be on the ballot. We

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Speaker 3: don't know, but you know, everything's at stake. I do

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Speaker 3: have a lot more confidence that you know it. Really

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Speaker 3: so many people are waking up, Lisa, because the mainstream

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Speaker 3: media has really discredited themselves so significantly in the past

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Speaker 3: four years, whether it's COVID or the elections of twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty or in twenty twenty two, and before we didn't

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Speaker 3: have really an outlet. And isn't it crazy that it

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Speaker 3: took a South African immigrant to save American free speech

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Speaker 3: with Elon Musk purchasing Twitter. So I think now people

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Speaker 3: have a lot more news sources that they didn't have before.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I'm a little bit more optimistic heading

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Speaker 3: into it. We just need to make sure we actually

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Speaker 3: motivate our people to go out there, because you're right,

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Speaker 3: the Democrat machine is very very good at at collecting

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Speaker 3: these mail in ballots making sure their side goes to vote,

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Speaker 3: So we have to we have to start getting smart.

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Speaker 3: But it's all a margins game, and I think the

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Speaker 3: Democrats why you're seeing them trying to unpretzel themselves with

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Speaker 3: this Israel Hamas wars because there is a good of

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Speaker 3: the Democrats that are totally Marxist, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: they're going to be voting for Biden even so they

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Speaker 3: might go for Jill Stein or RFK Junior or whoever.

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Speaker 3: But it's going to be a margins game. In twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Man, I didn't have a problem with a crowded primary

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Speaker 1: just because we don't have an incumbent. But I think

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Speaker 1: at this point, you know, Trump has demonstrated that he's

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Speaker 1: the strongest one in the race, and Nicki Haley has

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Speaker 1: no Uh. I mean, there's just she's not going to

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Speaker 1: win a state and she's not even going for Republicans.

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Speaker 1: She's trying to win independence and undeclared and maybe Democrats

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Speaker 1: in open primary. So it's like, you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: like realize, you know, like DeSantis realized he didn't have

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Speaker 1: a path forward, he did the noble thing and dropped out.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I don't know when Nicky Hilly

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Speaker 1: is going to realize that she's not going to win

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Speaker 1: it's time to bow out. You know, your election for

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Speaker 1: Attorney general me you almost won.

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 1: First of all, that's got to be really frustrating and

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Speaker 1: a tough race to lose, just being so close. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: a lot of it came down to just so much

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Speaker 1: disruption in Kopa County on election day.

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Speaker 2: Would you, after having.

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Speaker 1: Gone through that, encourage Republicans to get out earlier, to

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Speaker 1: early vote, to mail in ballot and really, you know,

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Speaker 1: utilize some of these things that Democrats have done well.

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Speaker 3: Of course, and we know, Lisa, we're still fighting our

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Speaker 3: election lawsuits, believe it or not, from twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: What we discovered we don't Last time I was on

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Speaker 3: your program, you know, we were down five hundred and

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Speaker 3: eleven votes and actually now it's down to eighty votes

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Speaker 3: because of our recount, and there's still nine thousand uncounted ballots,

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Speaker 3: all of them are election day votes, which went seventy

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Speaker 3: five percent Republicans. We know we won that race. You

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Speaker 3: mean my this you know what's so crazy about my race?

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Speaker 3: It was actually one instance where we have definitive proof

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Speaker 3: of so many of election shenanigans, where we actually have

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Speaker 3: an election where we have an an office holder who

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Speaker 3: did not win that race. But you know, I would

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Speaker 3: encourage people to vote early in person. I think is

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Speaker 3: you know, especially the ones who have a problem with

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Speaker 3: mail in ballots, which there is a lot of problems

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Speaker 3: with mail and ballas Lisa, But we have to play

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Speaker 3: the game that we're given, you know, until we get

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Speaker 3: into a position of power to change, to change and

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Speaker 3: to restore election integrity, we have to play within the

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Speaker 3: confines that we're given. So of course we have to

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Speaker 3: do early voting. We have to, we have to try to.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't care by any means you have

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Speaker 3: to go out and vote. I somebody who had a

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Speaker 3: race taken away from them by two hundred and eighty votes,

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Speaker 3: you know, and especially with all the election dationanigans, which

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Speaker 3: you know, I suspect it was intentional, especially now all

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Speaker 3: the stuff coming out, you know, we have to get

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Speaker 3: smarter at this. And Democrats that you know, they're street fighters. Republicans,

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Speaker 3: you know, we have to get we have to get

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Speaker 3: a lot tougher on it. So I would encourage early

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Speaker 3: voting by any means whatever is available, you know, But

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Speaker 3: I do worry when you have election day voting, which

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Speaker 3: I'm in favor of, but it needs to be done

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Speaker 3: in a way that it's the rules are set in place,

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Speaker 3: so that's why, you know, But I worry what happened

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Speaker 3: to Americopa County, could happen again on election day sabotage,

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Speaker 3: right or yet fifty percent of the machines go down,

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Speaker 3: and what happens It suppresses our votes. Again, we were

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Speaker 3: winning seventy five percent of election day votes, so you know,

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Speaker 3: it only takes one instance for that to suppress the vote,

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Speaker 3: especially in these close, close races. My race was to

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Speaker 3: eighty out a two point five million, the closest race

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Speaker 3: in the country, the closest race in arison a history.

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Speaker 3: But President Trump's margin in twenty twenty was ten thousand votes,

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Speaker 3: which is very very narrow. I mean that was you

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Speaker 3: know it was. It was one of the last races

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Speaker 3: to be called officially. So we have to really understand

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Speaker 3: in order to change, in order to change, you know,

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Speaker 3: how we vote in the future, we have to take

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Speaker 3: back power. And you know what I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 3: is when I go to Congress. You know, one of

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Speaker 3: the first legislations I want to introduce is to ban

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Speaker 3: rank choice voting at the federal level. It's something that

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Speaker 3: really confuses the voters. I think it's an attack on democracy.

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Speaker 3: I think it's attack on election integrity. So we have

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Speaker 3: to think like the enemy because they're always thinking of

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Speaker 3: ways and we have to get a lot tougher with that.

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's the right way to put it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't like the game, but you know,

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Speaker 1: we've got to play it how it is until we

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Speaker 1: can change it. Abe Homaday, appreciate you taking the time

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Speaker 1: to you know, get into all these different issues and

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Speaker 1: making time for us. I know you're you're busy on

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Speaker 1: the campaign, trill. I know how that goes. So I've

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Speaker 1: worked on race. Has never been a candidate myself, but

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Speaker 1: I know it's a lot of work and you're working hard.

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Speaker 2: So we appreciate you making the time.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Lisa, and I'm proud to be endorsed

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Speaker 3: by President Trump. And if anybody wants to go to

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Speaker 3: my website to help contribute, they can go to Abe

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Speaker 3: before az dot com.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a appreciate it, Thank you, Lisa. That was Abe Homaday.

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Speaker 1: He is running for Congress in Arizona, Arizona's eighth congressional district.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate him making the time to join the show. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday.

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Speaker 1: But you can listen throughout the week to think John

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Speaker 1: Cassio and my producer for putting the show together.

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Speaker 2: Until next time,