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Speaker 1: What is up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. We've got some rumors to

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Speaker 1: talk about today. Luis Castillo, Alex Bregman, A bunch of

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Speaker 1: trades happened in Major League Baseball over the last few

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Speaker 1: days since we dropped an episode for you guys. David

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Speaker 1: Nutt wrt's getting his number retired. Juan Soto press conference shockingly.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how, but we have so much to

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Speaker 1: talk about. That's what happens when we take a few

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Speaker 1: days off. But we're back better than ever, ready to

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Speaker 1: out there. As always, James, a couple of days off

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Speaker 1: from talking to you. What's going on in your head?

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Speaker 1: What's happening over there?

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Speaker 2: Nothing in Baseball has been crazy. I think the last

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Speaker 2: week was one of the most wild Winter meetings we've

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Speaker 2: ever experienced, at least as baseball fans in our lifetime.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is how it used to be,

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Speaker 2: but all those guys got together at the Hilton Wherever

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Speaker 2: in Dallas, and they made moves that put shockwaves around

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Speaker 2: the league. Like we started with Wan so other in

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Speaker 2: the Mets, and then the Yankees went kind of crazy,

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Speaker 2: and then freaking Kyle Tucker gets traded for like an

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Speaker 2: objectively fair package. But you have a baseball team that's

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Speaker 2: the second or third best team in their respective league,

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Speaker 2: and like, let's get rid of our best players.

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Speaker 1: It's terrible.

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Speaker 2: It's loser mentality from one of the winningest franchises in

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Speaker 2: the last ten years of baseball.

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Speaker 1: But it now.

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Speaker 2: Affects us, It affects the Mets, effects the market kind

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Speaker 2: of does ripple effects from all these little tiny moves

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Speaker 2: through the whole league and as the Mets, as we

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Speaker 2: said last episode, trying to build a World Series team

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, now we have to deal with the

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Speaker 2: repercussions of that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's bizarre. The National League is absolutely loaded right now.

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Speaker 1: The Cubs getting Kyle Tucker makes them a significantly better team.

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Speaker 1: Their team you have to keep anyfore. We know about

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers, you know about the Braves, the Phillies. All

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Speaker 1: these teams in the National League are great, while the

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Speaker 1: American League is gonna be a cakewalk for the Yankees

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Speaker 1: once again, which is a real shame. And it might

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Speaker 1: get even easier because Louise Castillo trade rumors are legit

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of the teams that are interested are

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Speaker 1: in the National League, the Mets being one of them.

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Speaker 1: The Mets, Cubs, White Sox, and Orioles have all inquired

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Speaker 1: Red Sox, Red Sox, my bad Red Sox. I misread

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Speaker 1: that inquired on I was about to say White Sox.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. I don't know how I did that. But

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Speaker 1: they've all inquired about Louis Castillo, and I mean, we've

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Speaker 1: been talking about it all off season that he's a

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Speaker 1: guy that we thought would be a great fit with

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Speaker 1: the Mets. He's a guy that we knew the Mariners

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Speaker 1: going to be interested in moving. And we got some

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Speaker 1: comments from Jerry Depoto from the winter meetings, from you

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Speaker 1: just different articles and writers talking about how Louis Castillo

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Speaker 1: will be moved if they think the return makes the

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Speaker 1: team better, and I think that is super important. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: when you make trades usually that's what happens. Usually you're

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Speaker 1: trying to get better when you make trades, you're not

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Speaker 1: trying to get worse most of the time. And there's

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Speaker 1: as we said in the last episode with the comps

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Speaker 1: for Louis Castillo, trades really hard to figure out what

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Speaker 1: his value is on the trade market, because no one

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Speaker 1: trades contracts like these for good pictures, and that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what Louis Castillo is. What do you think is gonna

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Speaker 1: go on with this Louis Castillo stuff. I think it

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Speaker 1: was interesting.

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Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal broke the story late last week, and later

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Speaker 2: on the article he said the Mariners are not interested

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Speaker 2: in simply dumping his contract with the goal of applying

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Speaker 2: the savings elsewhere. Castillo's full full no trade clause complicates

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Speaker 2: further complicates matters, enabling him to effectually pick his next team.

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Speaker 2: So I think that I was all saying that it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be very hard to trade for Louis Castile. You

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Speaker 2: have to give them something that will make the team better.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's not like we kind of thought at

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Speaker 2: the beginning of this offseason, I guess wrongfully that you

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Speaker 2: can make a trade with the Mariners, you can give

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Speaker 2: them something, they lose to twenty million, then they reapply

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Speaker 2: to twenty million. That's just not guarantee. I know Ken

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Speaker 2: Rosnall also linked them to Christian Walker, but it's just

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Speaker 2: not It's not the one to one, So it makes

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Speaker 2: it really difficult. I think it makes it even more

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Speaker 2: difficult again because of that no trade clause. It seems

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Speaker 2: like a guy with Louis Castillo, if he's waving that

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Speaker 2: no trade clause, I'm sure all four of those teams

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Speaker 2: that were linked to him, the Mets, the Cubs, the

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Speaker 2: Red Sox to Oriels, we're all teams he would like

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Speaker 2: would waive it for. I think the Mets probably coming

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Speaker 2: first with that. I think the Mets probably have the

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Speaker 2: best infrastructure and the best group they're around, the best,

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Speaker 2: the best chance, you know, run out the rest of

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Speaker 2: that contract. With it that we just saw the Oils

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Speaker 2: make a trade for a rental picture. I know Castio's

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Speaker 2: not the rental. Then they seem to have no interest

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Speaker 2: at all in resounding. Corbin Burns which is super interesting.

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Speaker 2: But this makes me think that Luis Castillo trades less

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Speaker 2: likely than I thought it was two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's that's simply how I read it. That we had

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Speaker 2: Peter Gammons of all people report on Twitter that the

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Speaker 2: Red Sox offered Tristan Causas to the Mariners and the

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Speaker 2: Mariner said no, which is crazy. I think it is crazy,

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Speaker 2: but I think it also could be a case of

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe sometimes we and some people on Twitter were

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Speaker 2: over at Tristan Causas. We talked ad nauseam all year

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Speaker 2: about how little value First Basement has in trades. True,

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Speaker 2: and then just the fact that that that Seattle ballpark

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Speaker 2: just swallows every single hitler up, swallows them up and

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Speaker 2: can't do anything. Someone put up the home road splits

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Speaker 2: the other day on Twitter for all of the Seattle pictures.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of astounding. Castillo is about a run and

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Speaker 2: half better at home than on the road. You aready

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Speaker 2: four and a half on the road, your home was

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Speaker 2: under three. Go every single picture like, well, there's actually

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Speaker 2: real thing. So I think maybe Seattle's picture park factor

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Speaker 2: is not as pronounced as they are. But all these

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Speaker 2: things together and then Ken Roast also an article made

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Speaker 2: a good point that I feel like we don't think

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Speaker 2: rotation is amazing. After that glump of five guys, five

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Speaker 2: great pictures, there's nothing, damn major. They don't really have

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Speaker 2: a six. They don't really have a seven, they don't

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Speaker 2: really have an eight. They're waiting for some more prospects

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Speaker 2: have that yet. All this stuff, I know, it seems

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Speaker 2: now like, oh, Cassi was definitely going to get traded

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Speaker 2: for me. It was like, I don't think he's getting

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Speaker 1: The one thing I will say is it the thing

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Speaker 1: that makes it feel difficult for the Mets. And where

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Speaker 1: we thought we had the advantage was that we could

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Speaker 1: take the money. And that's where we have the advantage

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Speaker 1: over every team in Major League Baseball right now, is

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Speaker 1: we will take the money. We will pay. But with

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Speaker 1: the Mariner saying they will only do that trade if

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Speaker 1: the return makes the team better, there's a really it's

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Speaker 1: really hard to find the puzzle pieces for the Mets

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Speaker 1: that makes sense to trade for Luis Castillo, that makes

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Speaker 1: the Mariners better along with the Mets. Like, I can

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Speaker 1: tell you how we can make the Mariners better, but

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make us any better by getting Louise Castillo.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it's fair for both sides, just

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Speaker 1: because like as much as we love Ronnie Mauricio and

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Speaker 1: Luisan Helicunya, and we think Brett Baty could have a

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Speaker 1: turnaround and those kind of players, that doesn't necessarily make

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Speaker 1: the Parners better than having Louis Castillo by any means.

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Speaker 1: They're all still relatively unproven. Yeah, they're unproven. Also, we

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Speaker 1: talked about a couple of epis ago. The Mariners infield

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Speaker 1: is atrocious. It's horrible.

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Speaker 2: It's Ryan Blisz, It's Dylan Moore, like though, it's even J. P.

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Speaker 2: Those are the guys starting in the infield right now.

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Speaker 2: So those guys probably do objectively make them better, but

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Speaker 2: I don't think it makes them better. Opportunity costs wise

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Speaker 2: to losing Louis Castilla, which again, like this kind of

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Speaker 2: this is the issue sometimes with these trades, Like you

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Speaker 2: have a team like the Cubs that just pulled off

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Speaker 2: his trade for Kyle Tucker where they were able to trade.

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Speaker 2: Isaac Perees, who is a fine player alive, is going

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Speaker 2: to depend on the ballpark he's playing it. Luckily, he's

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Speaker 2: play to his strengths. Hayden Weis Newski, how do you

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Speaker 2: say his last name, Hayden Weis Nesky. He's had an

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Speaker 2: up and down run. He's probably gonna be reliever. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure the Astros will get more out of him than

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Speaker 2: the Cubs did. And then camp Smith, who you liked

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Speaker 2: it is a good trade package, but it just kind

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Speaker 2: of goes to show how how much some teams are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you look at the Astros outf here, like

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Speaker 1: who the hell is going to play the outfield for them?

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Speaker 1: Like they got they base out there right now or

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Speaker 1: bizarre too, because they're they're a team that was pretty

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Speaker 1: much dominating the AO West, And is that a combination

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Speaker 1: of they still think they're going to be able to

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Speaker 1: without Kyle Tucker. Do they think that with the additions

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Speaker 1: still run through the AOST like they have or are

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Speaker 1: they just kind of packing it up this year and say, well,

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Speaker 1: we refigure it out. I don't know. It's so weird.

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Speaker 1: And that also then brings up the question of if

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Speaker 1: the Astros are kind of like whatever, this is a

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Speaker 1: retooling year. Is Fraan Ervaldez available, because that should be

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Speaker 1: the guy that I should be circling dotting all the eyes.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see him in Cityfield.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were going in the other direction. I

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Speaker 2: was going to say. These Casti rumors came out later

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Speaker 2: in the day last Friday, when when the Tucker trade

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Speaker 2: happened earlier in the day, I think that Topola was like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, the Astros are going to start selling

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Speaker 2: now the one now. I really, I'm telling the world now,

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Speaker 2: if you will make me better, I'm not giving you

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Speaker 2: Luis Castille. I need a absolute square reason why I'm

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Speaker 2: going to be better if I trade this guy, because

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Speaker 2: suddenly the managers who are only as they as they

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Speaker 2: said before, their only goal is win fifty four percent.

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Speaker 1: In the games.

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Speaker 2: Every year they always seem to hang right around that

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Speaker 1: I mean keeping in the al Wes. We got some

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Speaker 2: So I know there's a lot of Mets fans who

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Speaker 1: And like you said, I think the Mets know that

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers don't go willy nilly signing these players in

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Speaker 2: the middle tier. The Dodgers don't give players twenty five

434
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Speaker 2: million dollars a year for six years. They just don't

435
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Speaker 2: sign those deals because they wait for the moment to strike.

436
00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:06,640
Speaker 2: And when Betts, Freeman, Otani Glass, now Yamamodo become available,

437
00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:07,959
Speaker 2: but he ask for one year deal. I'm saying when

438
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Speaker 2: those players who are market market breakers, like market market

439
00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,000
Speaker 2: inefficiency guys, guys who are not players of this caliber,

440
00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,159
Speaker 2: this age, this this level of prime left do not

441
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Speaker 2: come on the open market. That's when they pounced, That's

442
00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,639
Speaker 2: when they jump. That's kind of the goal here. You yeah, exact,

443
00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,359
Speaker 2: you want to be able to keep yourself open for

444
00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,760
Speaker 2: all of these marquee players. It's not really just about

445
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Speaker 2: peppering and giving out like a fair contract to a

446
00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,960
Speaker 2: fair free agent now, because you want to be able

447
00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,360
Speaker 2: to have as many superstars on your team as one time.

448
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Speaker 2: Which is the whole new world's for us Mets fans

449
00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,720
Speaker 2: is though there's a new galaxy we're living in.

450
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Speaker 1: And then also it gets complicated in the same world

451
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Speaker 1: we say that, and then we're like, give us all

452
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Speaker 1: the garbage pictures. Let's h Griffin can and come on down.

453
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Speaker 1: Can't wait for that one.

454
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Speaker 2: But it's also where this corner market isn't really as

455
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Speaker 2: dead as the other hitter market's definitely not relatively, Like

456
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Speaker 2: if you want a middle infielder right now, you want

457
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Speaker 2: anyone that plays up the middle lall, it's kind of

458
00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,080
Speaker 2: a mess, like we talked about it last week, Like

459
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Speaker 2: Cody Bellinger seems somewhat attainable. The Mets haven't been linked at all,

460
00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,760
Speaker 2: but it definitely seems attainable. Josh Naylor seems very attainable.

461
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,040
Speaker 2: The Antidas seems very attainable. Nathaniel Low with the addition

462
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Speaker 2: of Jake Berker, Like I just said in Texas. These

463
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Speaker 2: guys feel very attainable on one or two year commitments

464
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Speaker 2: for not very much money. It seems like there's a

465
00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,520
Speaker 2: lot more creativity that can happen on this corner infield

466
00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,359
Speaker 2: market that can set the Mets up for possibly getting

467
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Speaker 2: their next megastar possibly. But again again, we also to

468
00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,160
Speaker 2: want to compee for World Series twenty twenty five. That's

469
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Speaker 2: that's top of mind all the time. But it's about

470
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Speaker 2: modeling what the astros the Dodgers have done with their payroll,

471
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Speaker 2: where you're flexible and you're ready for the for the

472
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,040
Speaker 2: freaks the superstars have become available, and don't just keep

473
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Speaker 2: feeding into the middle class of free agents.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think to echo what Juan Soto said

475
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Speaker 1: in this press conference when he was talking about one

476
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Speaker 1: of the reason why I picked the Mets. He loved

477
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Speaker 1: what Steve Cohen said for the plan for this team

478
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Speaker 1: that they're not just satisfied with signing Wan Soto. They're

479
00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,000
Speaker 1: going to continue to improve this team. So I know

480
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Speaker 1: everybody gets so nervous because it's been three days since

481
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Speaker 1: the Mets signed someone for eight hundred million dollars and

482
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Speaker 1: it's like, what are we doing? David Stern's is sleeping.

483
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Speaker 2: It's been seven actually, so get your shit straight.

484
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Speaker 1: Officially, officially it has. He signed the paper the other

485
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Speaker 1: day and he's there at the table that we did

486
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Speaker 1: a lot of interviews at, which pretty cool to think about.

487
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Speaker 1: We were there first, that's our table. But they're going

488
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Speaker 1: to make moves just like patience. This market is so

489
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Speaker 1: jammed right now. Our fault too, our fault major. But

490
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Speaker 1: that's also great. That's a huge advantage to us that

491
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Speaker 1: we jammed the.

492
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Speaker 2: Market because as days and days go by, Pete Alonso

493
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Speaker 2: is gonna get more and more nervous, and maybe we

494
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Speaker 2: sign him for one year proven deal and then we

495
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Speaker 2: signed Lad Junior.

496
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Speaker 1: The next season. Like I'd love Pete back, but his market, like,

497
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Speaker 1: why the fuck would you pay him right now? There

498
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Speaker 1: is no reason to pay Pete Alonzo before February, truthfully, no.

499
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Speaker 2: Literally, And again, Christian Walker is still out there. He's

500
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Speaker 2: not very good. But Paul Goldsmith is still out there,

501
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,639
Speaker 2: he is pretty good. Carlson Tannis still out there. And

502
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Speaker 2: we just gave you three three guys. Yeah, yes, we

503
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Speaker 2: just said three or four guys were very available via trade.

504
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,479
Speaker 2: Like there's just a lot of options, right now. And

505
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 2: also this is not even close to the most pressing

506
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Speaker 2: concern in this Mets ross. It's still by far as pitching.

507
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Speaker 2: And I think that I think that David Serion is

508
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 2: probably thinking about talking to teams and players that we

509
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 2: are don't even have close to our because they have

510
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 2: to figure this pitching out. And it's not going to

511
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 2: be Corbyn Burns because he's his market is also dead

512
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 2: right now. There's no one linked to Corbyn Burns outside

513
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 2: of the Giants, and seems like they're probably playing a

514
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,719
Speaker 2: game of chickens, see how little money they can get

515
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Speaker 2: them for. But it doesn't seem like it feel I

516
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Speaker 2: feel like we had the huge flurry and we had

517
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Speaker 2: massive things happened. Literally two of the eleven seven best

518
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 2: hitters in baseball changed teams last week. Yeah, and now

519
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 2: it seems like we're going to back into back in

520
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Speaker 2: the molasses offseason.

521
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Speaker 1: And we're approaching Christmas in the new year, and we

522
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Speaker 1: know how baseball goes into complete hibernation during that time.

523
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: So besides Dylan Patansas, besides Patanas, never forget that Christmas Eve,

524
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 1: Dylan Patanta signed with the Mets, and me being like

525
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Speaker 1: in the car, what the fuck are we doing, like

526
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 1: what we signed this guy? But I think that I

527
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Speaker 1: think a lot of Mets fans are anty and understandably

528
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Speaker 1: so we just signed one of the best players in

529
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Speaker 1: the universe.

530
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Speaker 2: I'm playing to earth, that's sports that they play. But

531
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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot more time left in this

532
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Speaker 2: Offsee at this time last year, we had just signed

533
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Speaker 2: Luis s Evo. We had not signed yet signed Sean

534
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Speaker 2: and Aya, we hadn't yet signed Harrison Bailey, like, we

535
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Speaker 2: hadn't done most of the things we did. Yeah, we

536
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 2: still worked for the Mets a year ago. Today, we

537
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: still hadn't done most of the off season yet. I

538
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: think that Davis Serrens is gonna make his money and

539
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 2: going to make his impact on this roster. January February,

540
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 2: Minor league deals, Griff Canning one year, six million, bullshit

541
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Speaker 2: like that, Like that's how we're.

542
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Speaker 1: Gonna do this.

543
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: That's we're gonna make this team a winner, and we

544
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 2: still have a lot of time to do that.

545
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Speaker 1: We've got to be like the most frustrating podcast for

546
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: like new listeners, because like we come on and we're

547
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: like all the things that got you excited. Take it easy,

548
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: not happening. It's not real. We can be like, how

549
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 1: about this trip for Louis Castillo? How did they say no,

550
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Speaker 1: we'll give you Jeff McNeil, Brett Batty and you know what,

551
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: you could have Tyler McGill, who says no to that, Like.

552
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,719
Speaker 2: The Seattle Mariners say no, that's also we're gonna put

553
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 2: those guys into Tyler. We're gonna put those guys probably

554
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Speaker 2: on the thumb. Now it's like, ah, there's almost no

555
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Speaker 2: way the Mets get either.

556
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Speaker 1: Of these two players. No, Okay, who do you think,

557
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Speaker 1: all right, out of the three players that we've talked

558
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Speaker 1: about the most today, Bregman, Alonzo, Castillo, rank them from

559
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Speaker 1: one to three? Who is the most likely that the

560
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 1: Mets signed Alonzo? Okay, you think Alonzo won? Then who.

561
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Speaker 2: Castillo?

562
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 1: Castillo too? You think Bregman's the least likely?

563
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Speaker 2: Okay, I think Bregman there is almost no chance. I

564
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Speaker 2: think that was gonna flip him in Castillo. I think

565
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: we keep getting linked to these guys because we're in

566
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 2: the Mets and people can just link us to these guys,

567
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 2: and Scott Boris every single age is like, let's link

568
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 2: the Mets because the Mets have money. People know the

569
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Speaker 2: Mets are going to buy another baseball player in this offseason.

570
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Speaker 2: But Castio just is too good of a fit. I

571
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Speaker 2: just don't know if we can make that deal. Probably

572
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 2: need to loop in the third team. And I don't

573
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Speaker 2: know why the third team and help the Mets get better.

574
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Like, I don't know who if we

575
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: can trade, let's try.

576
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Speaker 1: And think about it. Actually for a second. Who's the

577
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Speaker 1: third team? Who would really want Jet Williams? Who would

578
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Speaker 1: want Jet Williams? Yeah, I think a lot of bad

579
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Speaker 1: teams who were competing for the future. I don't know

580
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 1: the A's want Jet Williams. I don't know.

581
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Speaker 2: But who's a bad team who can give a good

582
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Speaker 2: hitter to the Mariners?

583
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Speaker 1: A bad team that could give a good hitter to

584
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Speaker 1: the Maritors. That's tough. They usually these bad teams don't

585
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Speaker 1: have good hitters. I guess the Rockies could give Ryan

586
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Speaker 1: McMahon to the Mariners.

587
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Speaker 2: Why Ryan McMahon's going is going to retire, Remember the

588
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 2: colirad the Rockets. His number is gonna go up in

589
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Speaker 2: the wall some day.

590
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Speaker 1: Give him Chris Bryant. Oh my god, we've lost the plot.

591
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Speaker 2: I just don't think that what we have, which is

592
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Speaker 2: prospects to trade and money to spend, help the managers anyway.

593
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Speaker 2: So I guess that twenty one minutes back to the top.

594
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Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna least to see you. I

595
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 2: think is much less likely we get Alex Bregman. All right,

596
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 2: all right, I respect it, I respect it. Some other

597
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: little housekeeping things here, just to put a little bow

598
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: on it. For the Mets, David Wright number retirement, big

599
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: deal July nineteenth. As a season ticket holder, can't wait

600
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Speaker 2: to sell those tickets.

601
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Speaker 1: No, I'm just godding. I have no idea whether or

602
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: not I'm going to be there, but those tickets are

603
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: gonna be expensive. I mean, everybody's been waiting for the

604
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Speaker 1: David right one, and that has definitely been I think

605
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Speaker 1: the most anticipated Jersey retirement. Truthfully, did not think it

606
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Speaker 1: was gonna happen this soon. I thought we were we

607
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Speaker 1: were looking at a couple more years. But I guess

608
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Speaker 1: David's he's cool now with it, He's comes to terms.

609
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, that or it's also weird because this is

610
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Speaker 2: the last number in the roll of dex. The Mets

611
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Speaker 2: hatters have a while after this this is we got

612
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Speaker 2: them all, Like I don't think, I mean, yeah, I

613
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Speaker 2: think Lendor's probably next thing. We still have a long

614
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: way to go before he even gets his number retired,

615
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Speaker 2: like Jacob de Grom's not gonna have his nomber retired.

616
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: This is really it. No one else from that generation

617
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: is getting their number retired. That seven is not gonna

618
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: hang from the rafters. We're just I'm so happy for

619
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Speaker 2: David Wright grew growing up like my early adolescent years,

620
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Speaker 2: like he was my favorite player by far. I wish

621
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Speaker 2: I had a time machine to tell him not to

622
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Speaker 2: not to try and tag out Carlosly at their base

623
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Speaker 2: in twenty eleven.

624
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Speaker 1: But Jesus, well, I mean.

625
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: We'll always remember well like he's the biggest one could

626
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: have been in Mets history, Like I think his numbers

627
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: deserve to be retired, like he growing up as a

628
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: Met fan that era. Think it's hard to describe people

629
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Speaker 2: who weren't where It's like this was such a beam

630
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 2: of light that you never ever thought was ever going

631
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Speaker 2: to happen in that way. And he was like perfect

632
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: everything about the way he acted, the way he played,

633
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: like his leadership ability, like power, speed, defense, batting average,

634
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: like a true five tool player who was the complete package,

635
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Speaker 2: would have would.

636
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Speaker 1: Have grown up to be.

637
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Speaker 2: And he was also like ridiculously famous. He was like

638
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: covering on me the show, Captain American in the World

639
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: Baseball Classic, like he was the Lady, he was the superstar.

640
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: Like everything.

641
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,239
Speaker 2: It feels like what Bobby Wood is now is kind

642
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: of like what he was then. It's fair yeah, I

643
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: mean right, but in New York. In New York, yeah,

644
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: I was gonna say there's a little bit of difference there.

645
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Speaker 1: I love that on Twitter because a lot of Yankee

646
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: fans have been, you know, all over like Soto's actually

647
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: not that good now that we don't have him, which

648
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Speaker 1: is a really fun conversation. And they've been comparing like

649
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Speaker 1: first five seasons or first six seasons from like Soto

650
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: to a Rod, which is so fucking funny for Yankee

651
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Speaker 1: fans to just be and children cover your ears, but

652
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: to just be sucking that guy dry, a guy that

653
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: they hated and booed and just vilified for years to

654
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Speaker 1: now be like, well, he's not a Rod. A Rod's ours,

655
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Speaker 1: not Juan Soto, who cares like It's very funny. But

656
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: then with the David right, stuff. Mets fans have replied

657
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: back and be like, here's David Wright's like first seven

658
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Speaker 1: years vers Derek Jeter, and David Wright was way better,

659
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Speaker 1: which is a great It's a great job Mets Twitter

660
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Speaker 1: love you there.

661
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: I mean, Derekjither could have gone his war up, so

662
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Speaker 2: David Wrights if he would have done the right thing

663
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Speaker 2: and moved to third base. When the Yankees signed a

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Speaker 2: Rod who is the superior shortstop and every single fast

665
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Speaker 2: of the game. Best one from Yankee Twitter, though, shout

666
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Speaker 2: out a guy, Meek Milfer from putting this one out

667
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Speaker 2: there for not putting it out there, quote tweeting and

668
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Speaker 2: amplifying it. Want So the first Mickey Mantle, Like a shit,

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Speaker 2: I wish we signed Mickey Mantle.

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Speaker 1: Guy.

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Speaker 2: You guys are right, Mickey Mantele's better than want So though,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't believe the best players of

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Speaker 2: all times better than want So.

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Speaker 1: You're right about that one. Put Barry Bombs too. He's

675
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Speaker 1: not Barry Bonds. How about that? Not yet? But yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's fun to watch Yankee fans, but happy

678
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Speaker 2: for David Right to get this. Then there were some

679
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Speaker 2: other funny news and notes. We want to talk to

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Speaker 2: you guys about quickly about the want so, the press conference,

681
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: about more things trickling out about the want so the

682
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: contract that are objectively kind of insane and pretty funny.

683
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Speaker 2: But I think if we're saying first of all the

684
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Speaker 2: fat rumors, everyone just shut up, not tures like I mean,

685
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Speaker 2: it's the pinstripe. They ate the meal before literally want

686
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Speaker 2: those younger brother posted the video of him shirtless sprang

687
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Speaker 2: Abotle of champagne the night he broke the deal that

688
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: our boy was yoked. He's like, he's like an ox,

689
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: he's a bull. So the people calling him fat. It

690
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: went crazy on Twitter that day, just everyone everyone piped

691
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Speaker 2: down a little bit. Get really get ready for April

692
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: when you want to see some crazy happens.

693
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Speaker 1: Though, Authentic jerseys are meant to be warn tucked in

694
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Speaker 1: when you wear them out. They fan towards the bottom,

695
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Speaker 1: They're super tight around the hips. It's a bad look

696
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Speaker 1: if you wear it untucked. Put it on anybody besides

697
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Speaker 1: probably like maybe Luis Robert doesn't have a belly, and

698
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Speaker 1: that's like one of the most jackedans on the plane

699
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: where a Doulas Garcio would just burst through it. But

700
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: it's not a not a very flattering jersey to wear untucked.

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Speaker 2: I will say letting that picture at that exact angle

702
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: get out probably wasn't the best idea, sure, but you know,

703
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: yeah maybe some yeah, absolutely who cares. But I think

704
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: it's I'm sure like someone in that room is like,

705
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: damn it, he does look like as Belly, but again

706
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Speaker 2: he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: He simply does not.

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Speaker 2: And also so much shade throw by wan So in

709
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Speaker 2: that press, which was so beautiful. We put out a

710
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Speaker 2: couple tweeks. Anthony Dicomo put out a bunch, but it's

711
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: just basically like, yeah, whats going on? Like I haven't

712
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: talked to those guys ever, and it was like, why'd

713
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: you leave? He was like, A, you know, these Mets

714
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: teams seems like they just work really hard.

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Speaker 1: My favorite thing was that he talked about how he

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Speaker 1: didn't reach out to any Yankee players after the season

717
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: ended and nobody reached out to him, which I thought

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Speaker 1: was super funny. And then Bob Nightingale put out the

719
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Speaker 1: the rumor that he changed his cell phone number, but

720
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: then Brandy Miller was like, his cell phone numbers the same.

721
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: I have multiple people who are like he was answering

722
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: text and calls on the same number he's had forever.

723
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Speaker 1: So it was a it was a rumor off. And

724
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Speaker 1: then the best part is brandon Nimo comes out of nowhere,

725
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: comes out of left field literally and goes, yeah, I

726
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: wanted one Soto. I asked everybody for his number. I

727
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 1: got it. I reached out to him saying how much

728
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: we'd love him on the Mets. He's like, so brandon

729
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: Nimo reached out and fucking Aaron Judge didn't like, what

730
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: the hell is that all about. That's so still so bizarre,

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Speaker 1: And I know we talked to Dsha about it, and

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Speaker 1: she also agree with us that it was bizarre that

733
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Speaker 1: they didn't talk to each other. I mean, he must

734
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Speaker 1: have hated it.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: I now see like all the clips that are going around,

737
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Speaker 1: and like you see him on the dugout when things

738
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Speaker 1: going on, and he's just like, what the fuck man,

739
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: Like he looks like he's not having fun.

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00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, watching Aaron jone drop up pop up probably probably

741
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: didn't help that either, but uh, it was just it's

742
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: beautiful to see that he's asked first all and also

743
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: so cool to see all the sodas there. Everyone was

744
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 2: so excited that Fay twitches during it. Yeah, twenty two

745
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: solos were there. It's just it's amazing that this is

746
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: going to be this is going to be our life now,

747
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: which is very cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's super cool. And the contract, by the way, guys,

749
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: is way bigger than we even thought it was because

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Speaker 1: all the stuff that the Mets gave him, all the

751
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Speaker 1: extras like the sweet and you said, the charter playing

752
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: for the family for road games, which is insane charge

753
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: for your family, and the security the problem family security

754
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have that actually all technically goes towards

755
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: the luxury tax and the stipend for clothes for his mom. Yeah,

756
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: and whatever extras that we honestly might not even know about.

757
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some crazy things in there. It looks

758
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: like they were like, can we get this? Sure? Can

759
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: we get this? Sure? Makes the contract before the opt

760
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: out worth way more than eight hundred million dollars. Yeah.

761
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: I forget who wrote the article, but the line the

762
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: article was, I guarantee that that Rob Manford has a

763
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: salary police looking at every single detail of this contract.

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Speaker 1: No, it's very good, but you know what broke money,

765
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Speaker 1: don't make money. Let's go mass love that and then

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Speaker 1: two more things here before we wrap up. Francisco Indoor.

767
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Speaker 1: Third baby. So there will be a time in the

768
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Speaker 1: summer where he's going to miss a game possible. We

769
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: know he'll be back and ready to play on the

770
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Speaker 1: next one. At the absolute worst, that's that baby has

771
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Speaker 1: had to come after the Grand Slam against Carlos Esteves.

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Speaker 2: Right, we're gonna we're gonna keep an eye out, but

773
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: that if that baby is born in anywhere from the

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Speaker 2: first the third week of July. It seems like that

775
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: line that baby lines up at the end of the NLDS,

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Speaker 2: So take that as it will, But congratulations to the Lindor.

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Speaker 2: It's also just to remind fansy'd be like, I can't

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Speaker 2: believe he's going to have a baby in the season.

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Speaker 1: The last time for the.

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Speaker 2: Schoolndor had a baby in season, he played the game before,

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Speaker 2: he pinch hit later that afternoon, and he hit a

782
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Speaker 2: home run the next day. So whatever franciscool Endor does,

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00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: I trust entirely with this. Yeah, you know he'll he'll

784
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: be a stun as always. And then we got our

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Speaker 2: our first of many amazing Jose Sirie clips. Did you

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Speaker 2: see what Jose Siri did in the lead?

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Speaker 1: Dom?

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00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: I really did.

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00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: He guys, he got thrown out trying to steal third base,

791
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: slid around the tag, and then he jumps around the

792
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Speaker 2: third baseman who mind you is Jonathan VR for a

793
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: second crazy catch? Right there goes a home plate, does

794
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: a stuther step coming around home, and then there's a

795
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: hook slide safe at home.

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00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it's an absolute chaos play. I think

797
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna see a lot of that from Jose Siri's

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Speaker 1: He's my I love him. He's already becoming one of

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00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: my favorite, like random players that's gonna be on the Mets,

800
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of a folk hero because he is

801
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: going to do some absolutely insane shit on this team.

802
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: And we got a little preview of what the Mets

803
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: effect is going to be like on social media this

804
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: year because that plague got posted on twether. A couple

805
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: of Mets outlets reposted that, and then suddenly the Major

806
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: League Baseball Maine account is like, oh, this clip has

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00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: team Mets fans around twether bang Jose Siri in the lead,

808
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: dumb getting thrown out there wind up being safe and

809
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: then basically stealing home off that in a rundown winds

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Speaker 2: up on the Major League Baseball main account on Tweather.

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Speaker 1: He's an agent of chaos. I can't wait to see

812
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: what he does out of that nine hole. I don't

813
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: think I've ever said that before. I can't wait to

814
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: watch the nine hit or play baseball on the Mets.

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00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: Also kind of fun because everyone's still all the yankie

816
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: fans talking about one of those defense want so those

817
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: defense I think it's gonna be a lot better to

818
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: have wan So the standing next to an elite, elite,

819
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: elite defensive center fielder with some of the best range

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00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: of baseball like Jose Siri compared to Aaron Judges. Who's

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00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: the future for his basement?

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00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: Yes?

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00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: Ooh last thing? Uh, And this is gonna be a

824
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: quick conversation. The Mets apparently are looking to move Starling Morte,

825
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: which was a rumor.

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00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: I don't believe that either.

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00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: You don't believe that. I don't believe it. Why why

828
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: don't you believe it?

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00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 2: It just seems like, first of all, he was part

830
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: of the recruiting package to one so though I'm sure

831
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: they're not gonna py some off like you just keep

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00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: Starring Marte here for one year because also who is

833
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: taking that? You have to give them all of you

834
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: have to take take all the money on to get

835
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: the start.

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00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: The problem with this yeah.

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00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm if I'm gonna pay Starring Marte twenty

838
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: dollars to pay against me, just be on the team.

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00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: Get four hundred the bats.

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00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 1: I do not care fair all right?

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00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: Well, and you did say he is uh, he's forgiven

842
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: for all of his transgressions. Oh, I mean no transgression.

843
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: Storring Marte was an all times one of the greatest

844
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: Mets have ever watched play in my life. I can't

845
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: wait when I popcorn ready an opening day to watch

846
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: Starling Marte run down a ball in the out.

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Speaker 1: This is a Starling Marte podcast, always has been. I'm

848
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: glad James finally around to you guys. Thank you so

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00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: much for listening and watching this episode. Remember drop a

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Speaker 1: lke on the YouTube video and subscribe to the metsup

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Speaker 1: Podcast YouTube channel, as well as on the audio feed,

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, drop us a rating, drop us

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Speaker 1: a review, download and subscribe. You can follow James on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at James Underscore Shiana. I'm draftnick Mark with the

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Speaker 1: c Thank you, guess for listening and watching it, and

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00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: we'll catch you later this week to talk about whatever

857
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: the hell else happens in the Mets world, because seemingly

858
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: something's gonna happen. Peace Out, peace out. See you guys

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Speaker 1: next time. Let's go Mets.