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Speaker 1: and tie. Welcome back to the Solid Ripple, boys and girls.

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Speaker 1: My name is Ty Hilden Grant. Joining me over there

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Speaker 1: my first mate, Lieutenant Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you

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Speaker 1: You know? Ty?

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Speaker 2: I wore pants today thinking that this cooling trend on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I regret it. I am getting a little bit

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Speaker 2: So if I lose my way, if I'm a little discombobulated,

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Speaker 2: like many a sailor sailing around the world solo, hallucinating

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Speaker 2: a little bit, seeing things that aren't there, it's you're

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Speaker 2: only as comfortable. I mean, I say, you're only as

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Speaker 2: comfortable as your shoes or your your feet, but it's

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Speaker 2: really you're only as comfortable as your lower extremities. So

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Speaker 2: I'm just just fair warning.

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Speaker 1: If you're out there on the open trying to circumnavigate

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Speaker 1: the globe, don't forget you need the sextont. That's the

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Speaker 1: tool you hold it up to the sun and it

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Speaker 2: Correct, Ty, would you say that now that week four

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Speaker 2: is behind us in terms of how we appraise, how

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think that's accurate, Danielle. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So what do we do on the twos cruise? On

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Speaker 1: talk about what happened on the twos cruise, we set

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Speaker 1: sale on a college football journey. Dan. We're searching for meaning,

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Speaker 1: greater context of the college football ecosystem. So Hello, I

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Speaker 1: guess I'm Captain Tye. That is Lieutenant Dan. We are,

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Speaker 1: of course steered by our friend Admiral Tom, who sent

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Speaker 1: us a bunch of you know, actual mariners speak that

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that one.

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Speaker 2: I did, and I really wish. I don't believe the

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Speaker 2: Navy or anything on maybe the coastcard does because Major

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Speaker 2: Tom would be you know, ground control to Major Tom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not sure if there is a seafaring rank

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Speaker 2: of major I don't. Don't think there are. Okay, I'll

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Speaker 2: think there are. I'm content to go ad birrole. I know,

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Speaker 2: but Major Tom just fits like Lieutenant Dan.

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Speaker 1: It sort of does. It rolls off the tongue. I agree. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: and language that goes into this show. But by the large,

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Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, this is all true. I am furiously looking

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Speaker 2: up because the first thing we're going to discuss, because

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Speaker 2: some seafaring themed games. Yes, correct, correct, So I'm currently

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Speaker 2: I can please. Derek King is.

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Speaker 1: It's unusual.

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Speaker 2: Last year we saw the Kelly Bryant thing when he

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. But he was recruited by Tom Herman. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I think sam Ellinger is going to stay in Austin.

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Speaker 1: So I would agree. I would agree with that. We'll

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Speaker 2: Right, So we've got the Navigator deck, the Columbus Deck,

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Speaker 1: This is very confusing, Dan, do we have We're not

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Speaker 1: Has a chance to win a national championship? Yeah? Who

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Speaker 2: And when you look forward as well? So a combination

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Speaker 1: Until proven otherwise. The top tier is two teams in

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. It's not to say LSU hasn't

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Speaker 1: say that Ohio State and Oklahoma should be taken lightly either.

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Speaker 1: But for me, it is clear that Clemson in Alabama

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Speaker 1: There are a bunch of others nipping at their heels,

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Speaker 1: But for me, it's it's a two horse race. Still.

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Speaker 2: See that seems almost entirely based on what we thought

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Speaker 2: the way you're leaning. Yeah, I understand the reason that

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Speaker 2: the National Championship as a Heisman caliber quarterback, and of

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Speaker 2: course what Clemson accomplished. But when I combine it with

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Speaker 2: Georgia with their win over Notre Dame, LSU with their

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Speaker 1: I just am.

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Speaker 2: I have to include what we've seen thus far, not

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Speaker 2: And if we're going to be real here ty throwing

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Speaker 1: Wake for it. This is a come on, This is

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Speaker 1: why cal show now Cashtag, consider Wake, consider Wake. I guess.

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Speaker 1: previous years and what I know of Clemson, what I

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Speaker 1: I'm still Clemson and Alabama in that top tier and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. I understand the separation. Maybe it's a

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Speaker 1: Well, let me put it to you within context, then

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Speaker 1: within college football. So I listed off six teams Clemson, Alabama, Georgia, LSU,

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Speaker 1: the top fifteen. Fair to say, a distinct cut after

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Speaker 2: So I have Ohio State and Oklahoma a tier below Georgia,

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Speaker 2: LSU with Clemson, Alabama. Why, I just we haven't seen

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Speaker 2: it's it's just a wait and see to me. They

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Speaker 2: So the cut I think is you're right, there's a

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Speaker 2: definite cut after the Sooners because for both of those teams,

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Speaker 1: So below that kind, I have five teams I have

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Speaker 1: They're a cut above the rest, but they are either

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Auburn, Texas, Oregon are those five teams. And

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Speaker 1: I know Florida is ranked somewhere in there, but I

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Speaker 1: So I have docked Florida a little bit. Do you

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Speaker 1: go in that specific order that you listed, So.

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Speaker 1: Cal's defense is solid. I think that they can be

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Speaker 2: I love this defense and it goes a long way.

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Speaker 2: It's a good matchup against Oregon, who actually again succeeded

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Speaker 2: I still have some questions about how effective Oregon's offense

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Speaker 2: This year, I think they're in a really good position.

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Speaker 1: not quite there, not because of anything Wisconsin has or

432
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Speaker 1: hasn't done, but I'm holding out fully committing to this

433
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: siren song of the Badgers beagers siren sang because Michigan

434
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: might be a mess, right, and we might look back

435
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: on this Wisconsin Michigan game is saying yeah, well they

436
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: should have. Michigan's a total, complete mess. And so it's

437
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 1: not downgrading Wisconsin, but it's reevaluating the context of this win.

438
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: I don't know it's pulling a Texas yeh, right, because

439
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 1: we've used Texas as a measuring stick in Week one

440
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: a couple times and in pretty much every case that

441
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: I can remember, they have not been a good measuring.

442
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: Stick, right, And there are teams like this every season

443
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 2: where we're like, oh, yeah, it's a top eight team

444
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 2: in the country, and then by the end of the

445
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: year they go seven to five. You're like, well, thanks

446
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 2: for that.

447
00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 1: Auburn. I think a good test will come in a

448
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: couple of weeks when they are home against Michigan State.

449
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: And that's not to say that I think a whole

450
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: lot of Michigan State. I think they've been better. For sure,

451
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: they're getting better, but the defense is very good. I

452
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: want to see what Wisconsin can do against a really

453
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Speaker 1: good defense before I commit to anything that heads up

454
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Speaker 1: against Ohio State. But suffice to say, the early returns

455
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 1: have been there and have been really impressive.

456
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: USC as a PAC twelve South contender with either Matt

457
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 2: Fink or Keten Slovas.

458
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Speaker 1: Which one that's important. So I don't know.

459
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: That the Slovis injury will keep him out more than

460
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 2: a week or two. But if Matt Fink continues to

461
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 2: make big plays, I don't think the body of work

462
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: for Keten Slovas is such that you're saying, well, he

463
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Speaker 2: can't give away the job because Matt Finke just beat Utah. Matt,

464
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Speaker 2: you you told me, Matt Fink's not good. I don't

465
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Speaker 2: think he's very good. But I'm just saying I don't

466
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: know whose job it'll be right if Matt Fink continues

467
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: to make big plays but is uneven.

468
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Speaker 1: Can Jack Sears come back? Is it too late? I

469
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: don't know that the body of work from Jack Sears,

470
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: as you know, decent, as he looked against as last year,

471
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: is a big difference maker. Are you seduced by USC

472
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Speaker 1: now that they have a tiebreaker over Utah? I think

473
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Speaker 1: they host Oregon and the rest of the PAC twelve

474
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: South looks pretty beatable. Colorado Arizona School's UCLA. I am seduced.

475
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: I am seduced as well. Yeah, yeah, I think I'm in.

476
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: I am apprehensively unbuttoning my shirt is what I'm doing.

477
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: I just like I'm not.

478
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Speaker 1: It doesn't feel fully, but I guess like, let's, you know.

479
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: Let's cuddle. Let's not really dive fully into this, but

480
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: I just I'm just going with the moment right now.

481
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Speaker 1: This is like Ben Stiller in Meet the Parents, where

482
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: he's forced to wear the speedo and he knows there's

483
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Speaker 1: no way out, so he's hiding behind a plant for

484
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: a little bit, just until he gets a little more

485
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Speaker 1: comfortable with it. I don't feel it in my heart,

486
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: but you know, the night is the night. That's right

487
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: all right? Now? Else, we got here.

488
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: Georgia as a team that can beat Alabama. Yes, yes,

489
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 2: what what has you convinced from Notre Dame? It's not

490
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: from Notre Dame. I mean it is, I think from

491
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Speaker 2: a little bit of what we saw against Notre Dame.

492
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Speaker 2: But I am mostly convinced because I think Jake from

493
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: is really good and I think unfortunately for him, the

494
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: stats will never really reflect how good he is because

495
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: that's just not the way that Georgia plays. But the

496
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: way that he showed his accuracy against Notre Dame big spots,

497
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: It had an incredible big throw in the run which

498
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: I couldn't describe here in a million years on the podcast,

499
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: but on the run to is right back corner. Yeah,

500
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: I mean, he's incredible, And I think to have that

501
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: kind of leadership on your offense along with a really

502
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 2: high level running back in DeAndre Swift. The defense is solid.

503
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: You saw what did when they clamped down against Notre Dame. Sure,

504
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: if anyone's gonna do it, it's either Clemson or a

505
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: team like a Georgia that is built very similar to

506
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: the way that Alabama used to be built.

507
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: So I yeah, I'm on board.

508
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: I mean, Georgia is a perfect pass and a bad

509
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: fake punt away from being right there with Alabama. Sure,

510
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: these past couple of years, I have circled Auburn November

511
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: sixteenth because the two new coordinators, the inability to really

512
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: get things going on offense till the end of the

513
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: Notre Dame game. I'm there. I need to be wooed

514
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: a little more. I need Georgia to sort of fuel

515
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: my shoulders and say, ooh do you lift? Is that

516
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: something like? Oh you big strong boy? I need a

517
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: little bit of that from Georgia. I need some wooing.

518
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty much there that they can hang with

519
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: Alabama for sure. All right, next last one, We've got

520
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: Texas as a Big twelve contender.

521
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 2: Texas a Big twelve contender. They're down three or four

522
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: pretty key defensive backs right now. But but when you

523
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: look at their schedule, Texas was probably always going to

524
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: struggle with Oklahoma, which is what a couple weeks away.

525
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: Yep. So outside of that, Texas's schedule is actually not bad.

526
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: Quarterback wise Austin Kendall, Carter Stanley, Max Duggan, Skyler Thompson

527
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: until Brock, Purdy and Brewer in late November. I think

528
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: the dbs will be back by then. See here's the

529
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: thing with the way that this question is phrased as

530
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: a contender. Who else would be a contender outside of

531
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma if you look at the Big Twelve, Well, by contender,

532
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean they're making the Big Twelve championship game. Again,

533
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: who else would it be outside Texas? So they have

534
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: the tiebreaker over the Pokes. It's Iowa State to me,

535
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: I mean it's always Iowa state to you, It's always

536
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: Iowa state to me. I think Texas is a Big

537
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: twelve contender. I don't think they're going to beat Oklahoma.

538
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 1: But if they lose to Oklahoma and weird to TCU,

539
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: TCU runs all over for them.

540
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: Darius Anderson, they lose twenty to nineteen to give you

541
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: a nineteen or that's two losses in the Big Twelve.

542
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: Always say to only loses once. That's their out, I guess.

543
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: But sure, I'm signed up here for Texas as a

544
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 2: Big twelve contender, But I think Oklahoma is the cream

545
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: of the crop.

546
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: In the Big twelve. I don't think Texas has beating Oklahoma.

547
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm listening to the Sirens song. I'm still there, all right?

548
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: Next game, Dan, we got two left here, We're running

549
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: short on time. Where are we going next? Let's go,

550
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Love Boat. I watched clips of

551
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: the Love Boat for the first time in researching this game,

552
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: and that sound you just heard, and the premise is ridiculous.

553
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: The premise is ridiculous. It's a bunch of people getting

554
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: on a boat falling in and out of love. I'm

555
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: all about it, and I say ridiculous in a great way.

556
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: We are going to judge the marital statuses stat TASI

557
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: of the following college football team and coach marriages. Okay,

558
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna judge off of these terms. Marriage is great.

559
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: They can't keep their hands off each other, their eyes

560
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: will never roam, can't keep hands to myself. Yeah, okay,

561
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: next level. Things are comfortable.

562
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: Not a ton of sparks flying, But there's a pleasant

563
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: understanding between the two. Right next level, go either way.

564
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: They need they need help. This couple needs help, and

565
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: on both sides a dedication to improving the relationship and

566
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: then the final level, writing's on the wall. This ship

567
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: has sailed.

568
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's start off with the obvious one tie.

569
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: You've Michigan and Jim Harbor. Michigan and Jim Harbaugh here. Yeah,

570
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: I wow, this is so difficult. It's something between things

571
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: being comfortable but they're not being sparks and possibly going

572
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: either way with the direction of the offense as a

573
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: new development here and perhaps me saying this is the

574
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: biggest Jim Harbaugh apologist in college football podcasting media. Only

575
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: three games, then I'm inclined to say could go either way,

576
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: and it's going to take some help or dedication to

577
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 1: improve the relationship. The regression of the offense, and it

578
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: has felt like a regression on offense is really alarming.

579
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: It might take, and when it takes, it could really

580
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: click and be really good because there's a ton of talent.

581
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, the way they got dominated by Wisconsin, particularly

582
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: their offensive line, one of the better, supposedly one of

583
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,239
Speaker 1: the better in all of college football, got dominated by Wisconsin. Right,

584
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it could go either way. So

585
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: I think the writing is on the wall. Actually, I

586
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: think the ship has sailed in the context of Michigan

587
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: as a team that will ever compete in the College

588
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: Football Playoff with Jim Harbaugh. I think it's just I

589
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: think that is I am writing that off. I think

590
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: it could go either way in terms of Michigan revert

591
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: back to what they were as a very tough ten

592
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: and two team who's playing in a New Year's Day game.

593
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: I think there is certain obstacles right now, whether it's

594
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: offensive identity, whether it's Jim Harbaugh reaching that sort of

595
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: time limit that we talked about when he was hired,

596
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: that he had at Stanford, that he had with the

597
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, that it only really works for so

598
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: long that he's you know, he might be somebody who

599
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: brings your program up, but then he doesn't make it

600
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: ascend to the skies kind of thing, brings him up

601
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: up to the clouds, but not to space. Virginia Tech

602
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: and justin Fuentee.

603
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: So I am the Michigan's in a rough spot. So

604
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to say I think it'd go either way,

605
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: and it's gotten progressively worse.

606
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: I think the ship is sailed dog.

607
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, tie, If the ship is hailed,

608
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: it's going to take a long time to abandon shift

609
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: because his buyout is wild. It's double digch millions tie.

610
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to have to figure out a way

611
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: to bail out the flent a situation sooner rather than

612
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: later if it's going to be bailed out, because they're

613
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: they're in for it. So I don't think.

614
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech's in a terrible situation. But in the context

615
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: of Virginia Tech returning to the point where they have

616
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: a good defense, a pretty good offense, and an elite

617
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: special teams unit, it's been a long time since that

618
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: was the case, threatening nine or ten wins, talking about

619
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: almost six seven years now, and there's very little in

620
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: the way of evidence after what we've seen from Virginia

621
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: Tech this year schematically on offense, talent wise, on defense

622
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: to say Virginia Tech is anything but a stone cold

623
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: middle of the pack ACC team. And that's not where

624
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: they were. That's one hundred percent not where they were.

625
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: Uh South Carolina and Will must Champ, I think the

626
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: writing is probably on the wall. I could go either

627
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: way on this one.

628
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what and I understand the quarter. You know,

629
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: Jake Penley going down, But what is it that we've

630
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: seen from South Carolina where it doesn't have to be

631
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: couched with an excuse. Oh that's the problem. That's the problem,

632
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: that's couched. That's part of why I say it could

633
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: go either way, because there has been that excuse this year.

634
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: Jake Bentley goes down. The schedule has been brutal. You

635
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: could you could definitely point to that last year had

636
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: a ton of injuries as well. But is there anything

637
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: from will must champs pass where you say, no, not

638
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: from his past. The only way that South Carolina is

639
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: winning nine games is if they have an amazing defense

640
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: and an okay offense. And I just don't see that

641
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: happening at South Carolina.

642
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: No. I just I think the writing's on the wall.

643
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: I say, could go either way, but I'm inching ever

644
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: so close to writing being on the wall. Mike Gon

645
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma State, I think things are comfortable there. I

646
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: have comfy as well. Yeah, comfy there.

647
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: I the only way Oklahoma State really breaks through is

648
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: winning every shootout, having an opportunistic defense and still and

649
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: this has always been the case, it seems because he

650
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: and his coaching staff have had such a great eye

651
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 2: for skill talent, they always seem to have a back

652
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: they always seem to have two or three pretty great receivers.

653
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: It's winning all of the fifty to fifty games and

654
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: having a defense that turned teams over. So I think

655
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 2: they're comfortably in that eight nine zone for the rest

656
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: of time.

657
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: And finally, Stanford and David Shaw, this is.

658
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: His first real worrisome year. Every other year they when

659
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: they've been down, you can point to something specific. I

660
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: understand the injuries along the offensive line. I think across

661
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: the board that the talent just isn't there. There's a

662
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: couple guys here, a couple guys there, but top to

663
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: bottom for as well as they've recruited, I think you

664
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: go either way. I just I would definitely give him

665
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: the opportunity to say, Okay, David Shaw, one point zero

666
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 2: is over, here's two point zero at Stanford.

667
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they can keep their hands off each other.

668
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't think, oh for sure, I'm never going to

669
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: be wandering eye between these two. David Shaw gets Stanford.

670
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is almost can Stanford get back

671
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: to you know, winning or being right there for the

672
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 2: Pac twelve every season?

673
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I think they can.

674
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know I'm willing to give David Shaw

675
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: a chance. I'm less inclined, but what he's done speaks

676
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: for itself. Final game tie. You know it, you love it,

677
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: America loves it. Donzell Dunzo, Donzo or not don soo

678
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 2: or not don so.

679
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: So here's what we do. We list off five teams

680
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: very quickly. You and I will make a snap judgment.

681
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: Is this team Dunzo or not Dunzo in the true

682
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: spirit of Kristin Cavalieri Cavalieri, I think it's just Cavalary.

683
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: I went Spanish el there.

684
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it personally. So what we

685
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: mean by Dunzo is can we write them off in

686
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: terms of hitting anywhere near their season ceiling. We had

687
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: a conversation about this first team, North Carolina being an

688
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: eight win conversation type team. I to round out this

689
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: game explanation, find North Carolina to be done so in

690
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: that context, I think they are going to It's going

691
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: to come down to the wire for Bowl eligibility.

692
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: For North Carolina. Now, I don't think they're done so yet. No,

693
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: so you think the eight win conversation is still worth having? Yeah?

694
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: After this, because the acc is such Demolition Derby. Okay, yeah,

695
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not there yet. I still like Sam

696
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: how awful lot. I like Sam Howell. Take the good,

697
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: you take the bad, and that you have Sam Howell.

698
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: TCU done so, Donze, I have them as done so,

699
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: they've done so. I had so much, so much hope

700
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: for this team going into twenty nineteen.

701
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: And Andy Staples bullied you online. He did cyber bullied you.

702
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: He cyber bullied me. I'm off Day Staples podcast.

703
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: Everybody. It's very good. Yeah, go listen to it. It's fine. Yeah,

704
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm off the TCU training. Is it the Max dug

705
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: In thing? True freshman quarterbacks struggling or so losing to

706
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: SMU thing? Dan? I mean, I like SMU, SMUs having

707
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: a good year, great uniforms, but tc you shouldn't be

708
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: losing that game. It could be early season freshman quarterback lumps.

709
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: But they gave up forty one points Dan, Well, I

710
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: mean it's an alley oop thing as well. But yeah,

711
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: TCU's defense used to be its calling card. Yeah, so

712
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: now I'm done, done Ze, So what type of team

713
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: do you see then? When we talk about them in

714
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: late November. In late November seven and five, eight and four,

715
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: six and six, seven and a half wins over under.

716
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: So what are you gonna take? Oh, I probably take

717
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: the under.

718
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: They can't finish with seven and a half. I'm aware

719
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: of that. I probably go se.

720
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: But just just a few minutes ago, you weren't super

721
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: high on the Big twelve, Like you said, who's gonna

722
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: hold Texas back? I don't have to be super high

723
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: on the Big twelve to be super low on t

724
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: see you, that is true.

725
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: So when you look at their schedule, your your very

726
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: special special horn frogs on the road at Iowa State.

727
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 2: They go to Manhattan, go to Stillwater, go to Norman.

728
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: It's tough sledding without a good quarterback.

729
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Dog.

730
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: I know I'm agreeing with you as I as I

731
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: see the schedule, I think, yeah, I think we're a

732
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: Dunzo and Dunzo agreement. Next team, let's stay in the state,

733
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: Mighty aggies Texas A and m U.

734
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: Swort A Dunzo. What does that mean? This is a

735
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: binary game here. It means that I'll say Dunzo. And

736
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: here's why I say Dunzo. I like A and M.

737
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm not rooting against A and M. But right, hater,

738
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm not a hater. As we talked about on the

739
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: Sunday Show, it feels like all too often each week

740
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a question of what kind of stats

741
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: did Kellen Mond put up and why wasn't it good

742
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: enough to win? Yeah, just seems like we're trending in

743
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: that direction with A. We already know they play an

744
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: SEC West schedule, so it's gonna be tough every week.

745
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: And if Mond isn't getting hard disagree. One of the

746
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: teams just lost to San Jose State fair fair point.

747
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: The other teams, though, are still pretty good, and it

748
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: just seems like it's all on Kellen Mond. I don't

749
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: like that.

750
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something about Texas A and M where I

751
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: can't look at this team and maybe this is a

752
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: deficiency on my part, and I say, you know what,

753
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: they might be up and down, but at least they've

754
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: got this, Yeah, and that's going to serve them well.

755
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: They know they're pretty good against the run against Clemson.

756
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: I just don't think there's anything that pops enough, especially

757
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: with ending their season on the road Georgia LSU. I

758
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: think Mississippi State, especially by the time we get to

759
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: that Halloween time with Garrett Trader could look pretty interesting.

760
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: Garrett Trader and that defense. I'm done so on A

761
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: and M.

762
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: I just want someone to pop, That's all I want.

763
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: I want someone to pop for A and M. And

764
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm not there. I like Mike Alco, I like Jimbo

765
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: as a play caller. Usually I'm not there. Next team,

766
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: next team. Youve got Notre Dame here.

767
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: I'm not done though on Notre Dame. And it's within

768
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: the context of Notre Dame as a potential playoff contender.

769
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: I am not donezo on Notre Dame either. And here's

770
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: why Virginia this week is a ranked team.

771
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: If you're a betting man or woman, take Virginia plus

772
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: eleven please buy a seat. Yeah, yeah, whoever take Virginia

773
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: plus the points. But Notre Dame should beat Virginia. They've

774
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: also got USC. Who knows where USC is going to

775
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: be by the time October twelfth rolls around Michigan after

776
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: a bye week at the end of October, who knows

777
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: where Michigan will be. Maybe they'll get their act together.

778
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: Right now, they're a ranked team. After that Michigan game,

779
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: it looks like it's pretty smooth sailing. Doesn't mean someone

780
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: won't jump up and challenge Notre Dame. But Virginia Tech

781
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: at home at Duke, We've got Navy at home. We've

782
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: got Boston College at home. Close out the year on

783
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: the road at Stanford. This might be the first year

784
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: that I could ever remember where I feel pretty good

785
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: about that Stanford game. End of the year. So my

786
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: point is they get past October unscathed. Yeah, you got

787
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: to like their chances a lot. I think they can

788
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: do it. Nobody's truly scary these last nine games. No,

789
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: not at all, but one. We haven't seen the Notre

790
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: Dame offense pop against a pretty good team. No, right,

791
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: no yet, I haven't seen that. And I will only

792
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: speak for myself. A little bit worried about Ian Book

793
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: after seeing what he was like against Clemston, seeing what

794
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: he was like against Georgia. Certainly was good against pretty

795
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: good teams last year during the regular season. I am

796
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: terrified of getting an eleven to one Notre Dame team

797
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: back in the playoff and losing by thirty four points.

798
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: For you, Yeah, I'm terrified for you that. It just

799
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: feels like we've seen this. We've seen this movie before.

800
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: Paul Finbaum would spontaneously combust if that happened again.

801
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: In order, if you were to give me a top

802
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: three teams that scare you the most with the remainder

803
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: of Notre Dame schedule, what would it be?

804
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: Well, I still think I still think Michigan has one

805
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: for me because it's on the road. Yep, they've got

806
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: a pretty good defense. They didn't quite show it against Wisconsin,

807
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: but I'm not ready to totally bail on the idea

808
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: that they've got a pretty good defense, and I would

809
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 1: think a burgeoning offense by that point, but I could

810
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: be wrong. Number two, I probably say USC. The game

811
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: is at home, but I like USC's talent level a

812
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: lot more than I like Virginia. Virginia's defense is interesting

813
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: to me, and Bryce Perkins hopefully has a better game

814
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: than he did last week in that ODU contest. They're

815
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: also catching Notre Dame after a huge road game at Georgia,

816
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 1: so potentially a little bit of a let down there.

817
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: But I still don't fear them, I think as much

818
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: as I do that higher level talent from USC. So

819
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: for me at Michigan home against the USC home against

820
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: Virginia in that order.

821
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: Do you see a scenario in which Notre Dame finishes

822
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: eleven one, say Texas eleven to one, Orgon eleven and one.

823
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: Coming from conferences that aren't necessarily super deep, they take

824
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: on somebody in a conference championship that isn't the most

825
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: impressive team to beat in early December whenever the conference

826
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: championship weekend.

827
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: Is where in the minds of voters. And I don't

828
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: think this would ever be public, but it might be

829
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: clear the way people vote that we've seen the Notre

830
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: Dame and Ian book in the playoff story before. Yeah,

831
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: and I think we're just gonna we're gonna opt out.

832
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: Does that worry me? Yeah? That absolutely worries me.

833
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, just that, like we we don't want to

834
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 2: rehash thirty to three in a semi final game because

835
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: we've had some pretty lopsided semi games.

836
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. And hey, look Dan, Yeah, we played a game

837
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: at the very start of this show where he told

838
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: me to remove anything that I thought preseason and I

839
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. Sure, it's harder than it sounds, So

840
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: it absolutely is. I get it. I totally understand that

841
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 1: that train of thinking, excuse you that that steamliner of thinking,

842
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Final team here, The final team

843
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: we have here is Nebraska. A tight win over Illinois

844
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: on the road in which they were heavily penalized. They

845
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: didn't really have any kicking game to speak of, a

846
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: lot of turnovers. I think they lost a turnover battle

847
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: Ford and nothing to Illinois. The rushed events looked pretty suspect,

848
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: but it is an important thing for when you're not

849
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: playing well to pull out a win, which Nebraska did.

850
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: Is Nebraska? Is Nebraska? Nebraska to you with? I think

851
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: Ohio State and game day on deck Dunzo Dunzo in

852
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: what respect Dunzo a bowl team, Dunzo as Big Ten

853
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: West contender? Is Nebraska Dunzo as a team that when

854
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: they have their act together, they can beat the best

855
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: of the Big Ten? Yes? Are they done so in

856
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: challenging for the Big Ten West in mid November? Yes?

857
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, I think so because by

858
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Speaker 1: the time mid November rolls around, they will have played

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, They've got a road game at Minnesota. Who

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Speaker 1: knows what happens there. Right, There's a bye week before Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: which is actually in mid November. But Indiana Purdue like

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Speaker 1: they didn't play defense against Illinois. Illinois much improved, but

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Speaker 1: they didn't play any defense. They gave up thirty eight points.

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Speaker 1: The past defense was pretty good. The past defense was

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Speaker 1: they held Brandon Peters down significantly. My point is thirty

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Speaker 1: eight points? Yeah? Can Indiana score? Can Purdue score? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: They can probably find a way to score. Northwestern is

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Speaker 1: not going to score. We don't have to worry about that. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: But otherwise could a team jump up and get them? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm out on that concept. I don't even

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Speaker 2: know what to think. I mean, I have them done though,

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Speaker 2: just because a team making a jump generally needs to

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Speaker 2: start doing more of the little things well. And Nebraska

874
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: has been undisciplined this year penalty wise. They were one

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Speaker 2: of the most penalized teams in the country last season.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't love Minnesota, I don't love Northwestern.

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in Indiana. I don't love Purdue. Maryland now

878
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Speaker 2: has some deficiencies. It looks like upfront I was going

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Speaker 2: to be very good. I assume they just feel like

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Speaker 2: a quintessential seven.

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Speaker 1: And five team.

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Speaker 2: Dangerous seven and five team is where I have them,

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Speaker 2: which is a nice jump from last season with the

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Speaker 2: way twenty eighteen started, but I think hope should be done.

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Speaker 2: So as for a dramatic improvement, yeah, I'm not done.

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Speaker 2: So on Nebraska long term, I think they'll be fine.

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00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: I think they're headed in the right direction. But you know,

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Speaker 2: the defense so far this year has left me underwhelmed and.

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Speaker 1: Could have been a look ahead spot. Last week could

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Speaker 1: have been a look ahead spot. But let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: here's some whirlpools. I don't know if that works on

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Speaker 1: the schedule.

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Speaker 2: No, that's fine, that totally works. Yeah, I have Nebraska

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Speaker 2: has done so we hope they're not done. So hope

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Speaker 2: we get a fun season from Adrian Martinez. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just it's hard to get going. It's hard to

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Speaker 2: get going about the Huskers right now.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, with that being said, thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us on another two's cruise. We hope you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the voyage.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I do have one more segment to It's a

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Speaker 2: ten second segment. Yes, I would like. I went through

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Speaker 2: all of the nicknames on the FBS and FCS level.

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Speaker 2: We'll go deeper even subsequent weeks. But our seafaring Team

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Speaker 2: of the week tie. Yes, the Stonybrooks Sea Wolves Sea Wolves. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Sea Wolves of Stonybrook three and one with wins

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Speaker 2: over Bryant Wagner Fordham. They lost to Utah State Stout

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Speaker 2: Rush Defense tie and they have a tackle for lost

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Speaker 2: machine in a guy named Augie Coontresa, which I love

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Speaker 2: saying out loud. Stonybrooks Sea Wolves, you are our seafaring

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Speaker 2: team of the week.

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