1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Non Burgund Ron Bergin talking and say anything rong back 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: and he's not playing any game. Yes it's me Ron Burgundy. 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me for another episode of the 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Ron Burgundy Podcast. Carolina, are you here? I'm right, I'm 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: right next to you. I've been here for like five minutes. 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Have you not even noticed me? What's going on? Well? 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: I pulled my neck and pulled my neck out, so 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: I can only look forward literally and spiritually. I am 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: only looking forward from now on, and I'm not going 10 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: to move until the muscle relaxant has kicked in and 11 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: the pain has completely gone away. So you're going to 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: have to tell me your facial expressions so I know 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: how you're feeling. Do you do you understand? Are you? 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: Are you nodding right now? Nodding? Yes? Understand? What kind 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: of muscle relaxing did you take? You know? It's a 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: little bottle of muscle relaxans I've had for a while. 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: The name is is actually rubbed off from the bottle. 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: My mom passed the bottle down to me years ago 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: when I was a little boy, and she said, take 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: this if your neck hurts. I also have a bottle 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: of aged codeine syrup. It's about seven years old. Do 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: you want something? It's in that the brown bag in 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: my purse. You know, you know what I mean? Yeah, 24 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: I'll take some. Wait's what kind of muscle relaxing did 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: you take? It doesn't have a full name on it. 26 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: It's it's only only has one syllable. It's it's a 27 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: it's a finished name. It was a drug that was 28 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: banned from Finland in the fifties after the Prince of 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: Finland took it. What happened to him? Well, he, uh, 30 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: he has a bad back. He takes a then some 31 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: people in his pal us take it. It gets around, 32 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, then rumor has it, all of the servants 33 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: in his palace turned into pieces of furniture, candlesticks and footstools. Wait, 34 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: did he turn into a beast? Who told you that? 35 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: I think it's from Beauty and the Beast. I think 36 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: you're What you're saying is that the prince and the 37 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: beauty and the beast in his entire castle had a 38 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: bad reaction to a muscle reaccent. So people know about that. Yeah, 39 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: it's actually a children's story. Are you frowning? You think 40 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have taken it? No, I'm smiling. I'm glad 41 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: you're okay, and I hope you feel better. I can 42 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: tell you're rolling your eyes. I'm not. On today's episode, 43 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about the rule of law, those who vow 44 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: to serve and protect, and who better to talk to 45 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: than a dog who has saved twelve lives. That's right, Freda, 46 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: the world famous rescue dog, is in the studio. Okay, 47 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: I wait, I didn't get Frieda. I can't. I can't 48 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: see you, so I can't tell if you're joking. Are 49 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: you joking? Run? She's busy, So Frieda is busy. This 50 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: is just for the people at home. This is a 51 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: real dog. Frieda a beautiful blonde lab. I encourage everyone 52 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: to look her up. She has spent her life helping 53 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: to rescue survivors from natural disasters around the world. She's 54 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: maybe the most real in the World's a hero, and 55 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: she's worked since she was a puppy. She's ten years old. 56 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: Now she's saved twelve I know that. Why Why do 57 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: you think I wanted to book her? Yeah? But what 58 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: was she going to say, roun? What was she gonna 59 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: tell us she's a dog? You did this despite me? 60 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: You can hear it in your voice. You're upset. I 61 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: don't know why, but you are. No, I'm still smiling anyway. 62 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: I booked a human who can speak a former FBI agent. 63 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: Former FBI agent. So, an FBI agent who got fired 64 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: by someone more important. Did Freda the rescue dog fire him? No, 65 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: he's happily retired. He was actually in the bureau for 66 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: like twenty five years. Hey, no, do not take another 67 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: muscle ride that Ron. Please don't handle that Ron. That's 68 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: not yours. Oh my god, the floor. Okay, it's fine, 69 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: I know how many there are. No, I didn't you trust. 70 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to. Yeah, is there a coffee stir? 71 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: I can snort that? That's really ill it? No, No, 72 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: that's what I'll dorading in my guns. That one I saved. 73 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: All right, all right, why did you do? Hey? Ow 74 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: ow ow I mean that owl. I broke the skin. 75 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: I probably broke the skin. We'll be right back with 76 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: an FBI agent Christ. Welcome back to the Ron Burgundy Podcast. 77 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm Ron Burgundy, and I Heart Radio technically has me 78 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: on medical leave. I just want to say that upfront. Um. 79 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: Today we are joined by a former FBI agent Joe Navarro. Joe, 80 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: how are you. I'm good, Ron, good to be here. 81 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: This is Carolina. Nice to meet you. I'm good, Joe. 82 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: How how long were you with the FBI the bureau 83 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: as they say, twenty five years? Twenty five years? Was 84 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: it always a dream of yours? Um? It was the 85 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: only job offer I had. It was not a bad no, no, no, 86 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't a dream. I was very fortunate to have 87 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: been at tendered an offered to to join the bureau. 88 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: And did you did you work all over the country 89 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: or were you based specifically in one one region? Um? 90 00:05:53,120 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: I was all over. I was in Arizona, New York. Uh, Keepsie, No, no, no, 91 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: do you know some No, I just like to say pokeepsie. Um, Joe, 92 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: let me ask you this. In in the field, did 93 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: you ever get a chance to work with any dogs 94 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: and if so, what were they like to work with? Well? 95 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I did, Um. Some of 96 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: them protected us from you know, bomb sniffing dogs, and 97 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: some had a tendency to just use us in the 98 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: absence of fire hydrants. But yes, I know what that means, Joe. 99 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: Any lazy dogs, any dogs, we just weren't. We are 100 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: sharing a laugh. Well, I do, I do. I do 101 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: remember one that was supposed to be a bomb sniffing dog. 102 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: But honestly, I thought it was high most of the 103 00:06:55,040 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: time because his his work ethic um needs to be questioned. 104 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: But but he was. But he was arched to be desired. Yes, 105 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: he was an older dog and there wasn't a foreign posting. 106 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 1: So yeah, when you retire an FBI dog, I'm sure 107 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: you have to give him a fake name and set 108 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: him up in housing, give him a fake identity, things 109 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: like that so they don't squeal. Right. I've never been 110 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: to the witness production program for dogs. Yeah, I haven't 111 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: been to the dog farewell, but I know they're well 112 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 1: taken care of. That's uh, that's moment we get it, okay, 113 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: wink wink uh. Joe, let me ask you this. Were 114 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 1: you always against crime and are you still against crime 115 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: or now that you've retired, to you a little more 116 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: pro crime? I have to say I've always been against crime. Yeah, good, 117 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: thank you. I'm glad you answered it that way. Yeah, no, 118 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: no issue there, good, no issue there. What do you 119 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: think of that? Blowhard? James co me M glad we 120 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: got that bumb out of there. Geez Louise, what mocking 121 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: up the works? Right, Jim Bocomy grabbing the headlines. I 122 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't be laughing, but you know I I knew him 123 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: when when he was the U S attorney in the No, 124 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: not in Pockkeepsie, he wasn't. He was in Virginia, I believe. 125 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: And um, he had a very good reputation then, but 126 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: never really associated with him. So I got you. Um, 127 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: this is random, Joe, because we were talking about Frieda. 128 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: Carolina was bringing up this dog Frieda who rescues people? 129 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: Were you fired from the FBI? Did in fact no 130 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: dog fire? You know? I somehow managed to survive the 131 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: twenty five years? Yeah? Great? Yeah, And and so you're 132 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: a former FBI agent because you just you had done 133 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: your time and you retired game sick of the game. 134 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: Well it was time. I guess. You can only do 135 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: it for so long before you get burnt out. Right 136 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: while you start to slow down. You can't run as fast, 137 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: you can't jump as high, and fast twitch muscle fibers 138 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: go once they go forget it. Yeah yeah, you me 139 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: and Lebron right. Yeah, although I was in a group. 140 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah group, it's Joe, You and Lebron. That's our mini 141 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: rat pack. You know, there's a there's a time for everything, 142 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: and there was a time to move on and years 143 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: is enough. No years, I mean you you you should 144 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: be proud of that service. I've never, god, have I 145 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: ever committed to anything for twenty five years. That's a 146 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: really good question. Well, of course, the faithful reporting of 147 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: the news, that's one thing. And there were those two 148 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: years you said you were going off the grid. I've 149 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: collected rare Saki's for twenty five years, so my socke collection, 150 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: that's something I can feel proud about. So, Joe, I 151 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: am a in Carolina. I think I can speak on 152 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: your behalf. Two. We are true crime junkies and uh 153 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: and we we would love to if you're up for it, 154 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: take your you get your professional opinion on on some 155 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: famous interrogations. And you've probably studied these when you're at 156 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: the academy. But um so maybe it might be redundant, 157 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: but if you wouldn't mind looking over some of these 158 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: clips with us, Okay, great, Yeah, that's okay, And we're 159 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: gonna play this first one. Um, this is an interrogation. 160 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: This is something Ron pulled up. It's one of his 161 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: favorite programs, but he says because of the accuracy, it's 162 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: a powerful interrogation from the show. Colombo telling me where 163 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: you were last night Sunday night at the movies alone? No, 164 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: with Irving? And where did you go after the movie? 165 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: Back to Herb's place? Did you have your Yes? But 166 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: on weekends I usually like to sleep over at Herb's. 167 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: At what time did you get back to my part? 168 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: About ten thirty? And then what you do? We watched 169 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: TV and what did you do with if you watch TV? 170 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: We made love? Okay, then we went to sleep and 171 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: neither you left the apartment between eleven thirty and three am. No, 172 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: I told you first we watched TV and then we 173 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: made love. And Mr Crutch never left the apartment. If 174 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: you were asleep, I would you know, left the apartment 175 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: or not? Well, we didn't actually go to sleep till 176 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: maybe about two thirty. These things take time, now, and 177 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: that's the crunch. Never left the upon No, the letable 178 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: room now? Oh well, once to get me fresh orange juice. 179 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: Very suggestive. She keeps talking about making love. It's a 180 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: little explicit, little crass and and those of you guys 181 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: are listening at home, can't see the clip. But she 182 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: is beautiful. Oh my god. I don't know if that helps. 183 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: She is gorgeous, Joe, I'm sure you had. Did you 184 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: have to hear language like this at work? M hmm yeah, 185 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: but not from the suspects? Um, did that suspect talk 186 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: way too much? Well? You know what was interesting is 187 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: the methodology. You know, you have to account for all 188 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: the behavior and all the time. So m. Colombo was impeccable. There. 189 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: Colombo's very thorough. You want to get that time that 190 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: time frame down. But did you notice the guy never 191 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: said a word. Yeah, she's there with her boyfriend. He's 192 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: not saying a word. But that's women for you. Talk 193 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: talk talk talk zip it up, but not now, no, 194 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: not not then back then Yeah, now, women can talk 195 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: all you want. Yeah. Thanks. Um. I've heard that there's 196 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: a technique that a lot of cops use where they 197 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: just repeat a lot of questions to try to catch 198 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: if your story, to see how consistent your story? Would 199 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: you use that, Joe, I would use a form of that. 200 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: I would uh, you know, I just dig down deeper. 201 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: I just say could I have more details? So if 202 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: they said yeah, if they say I entered the house, 203 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: I want to know, well, which door was it and 204 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: was the light on or not? Right? Yeah, well let's 205 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: take a look and see. But I like that clip. 206 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: Oh well we have, we've We've got a couple more. 207 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: This next one is from the show Chicago p D. 208 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: Y and uh, I know most guys in the forest 209 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: must love coming home relaxing after work and watching Chicago 210 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: p D. It must be so relaxing to go watch 211 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: a show and where you're fighting the same bad guys 212 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: and you you're having the same love triangles. Yeah, that's true, 213 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: you guys are Is there a favorite show in the 214 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: fields besides Chicago p D? Well, I mean, now, the 215 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: big one is mind Hunter. Oh yes, I've read the 216 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: book and watched the show. Very big fan. Yeah, very popular. 217 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: I get more questions about that, like how how close 218 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: to the real thing isn't But but the second most 219 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: questions you get is from Chicago p D. Though, right, 220 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: uh Ron no, uh okay, No, that's good for me too. 221 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: It's good for me too because I've been telling people 222 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: that mo FBI former FBI guys love and talk about 223 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: and get questions about Chicago p D. There's also Chicago Fire. 224 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: There's Chicago, Chicago mad There's Chicago Daycare. There's Chicago Travel Agency. 225 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: There's Chicago Airport, which they should just called O'Hare what 226 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: they should call it, called Chicago Airport. But the list 227 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: goes on and on. It's it's NBC's lineup, and they're 228 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: doing a great job. They're knocking it out of the park. Okay, 229 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: let's play this from Chicago. P d oh wan, lawyer, lawyer, 230 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: He wants a lawyer. H get him a lawyer. This 231 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: is illegal that he needs a lawyer right now. Oh 232 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: my god, if you one chance to tell me where 233 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: the Brasils gets on? Oh my god, I'm scared of him. 234 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: And give me the past words. Saw you twisted websites? Yeah? 235 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: What's in it from me? Yeah? What's good? Okay? Reasonable? 236 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: He also would like a lawyer. Yeah, your ability to live? 237 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, excuse me? You heard him? Well, as 238 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: they say in Poughkeepsie, whoa yeah, yeah, whoa right? Joe? Okay, 239 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: so Joe is that cops voice? What what you guys 240 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: are supposed to sound like? Only if you smoke four 241 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: packs a day? Only if you smoke four packs a day. 242 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: He might just be sexy. He might just be inherently sexy. Well, 243 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: that's that's true too, But Ron I, I gotta go 244 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: with you. When when he said I want my attorney, 245 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: that's it. You gotta walk out of that room. Joe. 246 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: Can you give me your sexiest gravellist voice right now 247 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: as if you were on Chicago p D? Yeah? Ron, 248 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: where were you last night? Yeah? Can you give me 249 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: a little more gravel D? I need to know. I 250 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: need to know what we're worried last night? Were you? 251 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: Because you're not leaving this room until you tell me. God, Joe, 252 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: that is good. Good, that's really good. Watch out Chicago 253 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: p D. Joe Navarro, p D. Jetskmi. I'm James Komi 254 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: and I'm seven ft doll. Punch you in the nuts. 255 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: You don't give me the info? Is that a direct quote? No, 256 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm just riffing as jos and what I think James 257 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: would say. Do I still do? I still have to gravel? Oh? No, No, 258 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: you're good, You're good, Joe. I mean, unless you want 259 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: to know. I don't want to sound like what's his 260 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: name on the Simpsons? So, Joe, are you married? Can 261 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: I ask? I am? Indeed? Because you might want to 262 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: try that voice out in the bedroom tonight. That was free. 263 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: That was free. Okay, let's go to another Chicago p D. 264 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: Is it right, Caroline, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah it 265 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: is um Okay, it's just a knock on the door 266 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: the girls apartment. Girls that she opens the door. What 267 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: are you doing here? This doesn't seem like an interrogation scene. 268 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: He brought her back up. That's where it went. I 269 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: bumped into your desk and and accidentally fell in my pocket. 270 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: I know you didn't parking that I didn't have time. 271 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: You didn't. You took it so you could come and 272 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: show up at her apartment. Come on, I didn't just 273 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: fall off the apple truck. I like this writing though 274 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: a guy has ever used to try to get into 275 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: my apartment, I was expecting it. Thank you. You know 276 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: that actor actually dated Lady Gaga. Fun fact, you're missing 277 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: the best part kissing smooth your rooney kissing? Now? Is 278 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: this what you're watching here, Joe? Pretty common in the 279 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: FBI world amongst colleagues. Only only with our spouses. That 280 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: is not common. That's by the way. Did you did 281 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: you notice her body her body language? Immediately you had 282 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: that head tilt, and of course head tilt means uh 283 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: kind of. I'm I'm interested. I'm curious. I'm curious, I'm interested. Yeah, 284 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: we only know what Joe. We forgot that you. You 285 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: are a expert on body language? Is that is that true? Yes? Yeah, 286 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: I've been studying it for about forty years. How does 287 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: that affect your marriage? Do you? Sometimes you say I 288 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: can tell you're full of it to your wife. Well, 289 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: head tilt, honey, arms, arms folded, I can tell you're 290 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: a set. Yeah. The the your lips are compressed and 291 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: the glabella, the little area between your eyes is furrowed. 292 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: So keep it clean, keep it clean. Sorry, and uh, 293 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: so I know you're stressed, and she'll say knock it off, 294 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: and uh and I will pliantly abide. Um. But you know, 295 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: it's it's funny. You have to sometimes you have to 296 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: turn it off at home because when you can see everything, 297 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: it can be annoying. So you just have to pretend 298 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: you're just seeing somebody stressed. You have to turn that 299 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: part of your brain off. Yeah, I understand that. Yeah, Caroline, 300 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: you had to go to your oh B to have 301 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: your gloat checked out. Yeah, well wait, wait, what about 302 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: your fil trum tum? Is that um? What connects your 303 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: teeth to your mouth because your gum. No, it's a 304 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: little area just below the nose that and and connects 305 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: to your upper lip pilum. That's called the fill trumen. 306 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: That's also an erogenous zone, isn't it. Well, it could be. 307 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: But what's interesting is during interviews when people are stressed, 308 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: how this little area sort of fills up with moisture. Okay, 309 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: so and you can tell that during interrogations that helps you. 310 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it just tells you, well, whatever the questions 311 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm asking, they're stressed. So the question is why it So, 312 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: if you were into crime, it pay to have all 313 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: the sweat pores removed from your fildrum. Yeah, or ever 314 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: be caught. Yeah, and interrogation or botoxed. Botox gets rid 315 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: of the the ability to sweat from there. Yeah. Smart 316 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: poker players do it. Poker players get botox in their filter. 317 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: They get botox and a lot of places because they 318 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: give so much away with their faces called a tell 319 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: A tell, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Should I go back to 320 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: that voice? Well please? The health Yeah, my filterm, my 321 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: filter is sopping with What was the first body part 322 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: you mentioned, Joe, the globella that was the first part. 323 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: Beautiful name for a girl. Um, so, Joe, tell me 324 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: about Quantico. And for for our listeners who don't know 325 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: what Quantico is, what can you explain that? Yeah, Quantico 326 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: is the the the famous Marine Corps base and they 327 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: allowed us to on their property to build the FBI 328 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: Academy and uh and that's where all agents go. I 329 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: will tell you this, and most people don't realize this. 330 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: At Quantico, the dormitory doors never had a lock. And 331 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: that's because the people were so honest that, um, you 332 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: didn't need locks. And I have to say, I've never 333 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: been in an institution where you didn't have to lock 334 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: your door. Did anyone while you were there? To get 335 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: kicked out of? Quantico isn't easy place to get kicked 336 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: out of. Uh, very much, so very much drinking a 337 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: beer or staying out too late. No, it was it 338 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: was usually either because of physical fitness or they didn't 339 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: do well in the academics. Oh, because you're basically you're 340 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: the dummies and the fatties they get the boot. Well, 341 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it that way. It's I mean, we 342 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: had we had some people that just could not for instance, 343 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: the trigger test. They couldn't do the trigger poll test. 344 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: What's the trigger pol test? It's, uh, you know, how 345 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: much strength do you have in that that index finger 346 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: to pull the trigger? Uh, consistently as though you were 347 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: in a firefight. And some people, believe it or not, 348 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: could not pass that test, Caroline. I'm gonna put you 349 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: through the trigger poll test every morning and if you 350 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: don't pass it, what are you serious? We'll just have 351 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: to find someone else. God. Yeah, Ron, it has to 352 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: be job related. I think it has to be job related. Okay, 353 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: all right, good to know. And what did you guys 354 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: do for fun at Quantico? Uh? Was there a lot 355 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: to be had? Not? Really? It was you know, any pranks? Oh? Yes, 356 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: can I lots of pranks? Can I? Can I tell 357 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: you one? Please? Please? Okay, Joe we go. So one 358 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: of the one of the one of the classes could 359 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: be this is gonna be right out of a script 360 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: of Chicago p D. I already feel it. Yeah. One 361 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: of the class counselors was he was a little bit 362 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: too uptight, so um so that everybody we had taken 363 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: a class on crime scene. So we staged that that 364 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: somebody had jumped from the sixth story building and we 365 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: called the class counselor over and said, look, look what 366 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: just happened. And um, I didn't partake him this, I 367 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: only heard about it. But apparently as a result of 368 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: looking down the window and seeing what he thought was 369 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: a somebody that had jumped the class counsel well, he 370 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: developed a nervous tick in his face that three years 371 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: later was apparently still there. So, oh, you guys, you 372 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: that this stunt, it looked, triggered a debilitating tick that 373 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: will haunt him for the rest of his days. But 374 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: now we call that. Now, we call that PTSD. So 375 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: they framed yea yea very serious. Yeah, good stuff that was. 376 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: That was in the seventies. Those things took place in 377 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: the seventies. No, totally, yeah, no. So what is this 378 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: last clip that you pulled up? This is a this 379 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: is a clip We're gonna really it's important to you. 380 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: Here's a clip that I want you to watch. Jim Crocey. 381 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: It's just Jim crowbarator. I'm gonna be honest. The muscle 382 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: relaxing has fully kicked in. And I love this song. Anyway. 383 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: Do I need to keep asking you questions? You don't 384 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: care about that, right, I mean Joe, think about it. 385 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: I've been interrogating you. You're probably like, all right, man, 386 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: lay off, let's just all hang out. Yeah. Yeah, we're 387 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: all friends and we should just be hanging out. I 388 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: love it when we all get to get it like this, 389 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: and no, is there going to be a question, Joe, 390 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: Joe quiet, I've learned to take it well, just not 391 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: the way you rock roun. All right, Ron passed out. Nick, 392 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: Let's just cut to the commercial. Let's cut commercial, and 393 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: we're back with the Ron Burgundy Podcast. I have never 394 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: been more awake, Ron, I'm not kidding. You were a 395 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: stille three hours. Everyone else has had like a whole 396 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: day here. I ran to Errand's. Nick picked up his 397 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: kids from school. Our intern renewed their passport really while 398 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: I was here at work. Wow, welcome to the millennial workforce, 399 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. They're really great employees. Is the FBI 400 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: guys still here, by the way, Joe, No, he left 401 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: right when you start playing Jim Crocey and then you 402 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: asked him to hang out, got it? You know, I 403 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: love Jim, but I've had a few people turn away 404 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: when I put that record on. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. 405 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: It makes people feel things up already, right, It gets vulnerable, emotional. Well, 406 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: this was an episode where we laid down the law 407 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: and I hope everyone at home feels a little safer 408 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: after hearing what our community of law enforcement. Carolina, are 409 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: you still here? I can't look around, so you need to. 410 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: You need to walk me home. You can't leave, Okay, 411 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: do not sneak out. I wouldn't do that. I'm just 412 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: going to stand up now and please help me walk 413 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: out and wrap my scarf around me. Okay, sunglasses, sunglasses, hat, hat, 414 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: purse first. Good night, folks. I'll catch you next time 415 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: on The Ron Burgundy Podcast. Don't fix my hand? Okay, okay. 416 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: The Ron Burgundy Podcast is a production of I Heart Radio. 417 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm Ron Burgundy. The host, writer and executive producer Carolina 418 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: Barlow is my co host, writer and producer. Our producer 419 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: is Nick Stump. Our talent coordinator is Anna Hosny. Writers 420 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: are Andrew Steele and Jake Vobleist. This episode was engineered, mixed, 421 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: and edited by Nick step m