1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Swine Down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast. 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: I got pulled over this morning and I was having 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of the morning. I was that time 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: of the month. Okay, you know, so like you're already 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: like do you get on edge? Yeah? I get on 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: edge like a couple of days before, and so then 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: I know it's coming. But then I don't like to 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: like anyone to know that I'm then on my period 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: because then oh, that that's why he were such a 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: bit three days ago. Do you know how many times 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: in my marriage that I actually would roll up the 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: stuff and literally put it in a bin in my 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: cupboard so that he wouldn't see it in the trash, 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: far so that he wouldn't blame my rational behavior, because 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: that's the worst the word for them to be like, oh, 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: that's why you're I'm like, no, that's not why, because 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: you did this as why Granted I'm I'm a little 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: more represensitive, yeah for sure, but like that's when they 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: call that out. Why did they do that? Because their men? 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: That's a good enough reason. It's just annoying, But I 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: don't know why I'm trying to hide it now, Like 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm not nobody to hide it from. But I think 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: it was just I was rushing. I was I wasn't 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: supposed to have the kids had a little change in 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: the schedule, so I was trying to figure stuff out. 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: Luckily the preschool have let us back in. I got 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: an email that the preschool will allow goodness, so I 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna bring flowers. Did she for She's like, well, 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: we'll allow it. She basically was like, it's fine if 30 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: you want to bring him back in Tuesday Thursdays. I 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: was like, wonderful, thank you so much, have a have 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: a blessed day, flowers whatever. I'll figure it out. But 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: and then also, I know we gotta start thinking about 34 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: menopause already my mom went through. I'm gonna be thirty eight. 35 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind menopause. Why why don't want my period anymore? Yeah, 36 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: but like there's like so many other issues that go 37 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: along with it. I'm gonna get to when I get 38 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: pulled over apart. But the whole point was, I was 39 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: just like feeling crampy, and I feel like I feel 40 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: like I'm pre menopausal because my periods or having said that, 41 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: I think it's just because I had kids. And it's 42 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: changed my period. And then that vaccine changed my period. 43 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: So that's just been like annoying because it's been all 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: over the freaking place. But um, I just felt like hot, 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like they were going through menopause. So I 46 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: was like texting my mom asking her, like what were 47 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: her pre menopausal symptoms, because I just because my periods 48 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: have just been so weird. So like, into my car, 49 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: I had to change around the schedule to get the kids, 50 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: and I'm on my phone texting my mom about menopause. 51 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: And then like then, I'm like I'm old and I'm 52 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: washed up. I see this cop right in front of 53 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: me and I don't even stop, like there was a 54 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: stop sign, and I just like rolled right through it. 55 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: I'm on my phone, but it was like I saw 56 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: him after I rolled through it. You know. It was 57 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: like one of those where it's like I thought, I 58 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: thought you just rolled No. No, I like went right 59 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: through it. Okay, I'm just trying to help you out. Yeah, 60 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: because I was talking about menopause to my mom because 61 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: I was like massively on my period and freaking out 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: and it was weird. And so then he started following 63 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: me and I was like, I might as well just 64 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: put my linker on and just I'm just literally and 65 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: I pretty much did. Like at the same I saw 66 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: that there was a subdivision coming up, so I was like, 67 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna pull me over. I feel it like he's 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: right on my tail. He's looking up my license plate 69 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: right now, see if I'm a felon. And then in 70 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: my head this is I'm like, what do I do? 71 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: Do I play the menopause card? I just wanted and 72 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm only thirty eight years old, actual 73 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: idea or I'm bleeding and so I don't know or um. 74 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: So this all went through my head and then I 75 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: was like I don't even know wh my registration card 76 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: is or like I have no like all and I'm like, well, 77 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: I don't have cream around my thing, and it's like, 78 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: what is it going to show up cream around there? 79 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: Because my license anyways, So then about the same time 80 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: I put my blinker on, the lights go on and 81 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, there of ever. So I pulled into 82 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: this neighborhood pre menopausal and just bleeding just defeated. I 83 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: rolled on my window and I was like, I know 84 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: I was on my phone and I rolled through it. 85 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: You can just give me a ticket, and he kind 86 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: of like laughed, and I was like, I'm sorry, like 87 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: and normally and I just I was texting a friend 88 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, I just got pulled over. And 89 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: he was like, are you apologizing profusely and just being 90 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: so nice? And I was like, actually no, I was like, 91 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: I did it. Arrest me, officer like just handcuffs. No, 92 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: arrest me to take me to jail, give me deal 93 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: with the rest. Take me to jail. You think that 94 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: might be kind. I'm the thing of my kids. Figure 95 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: it out, you know what, you figure out my life 96 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: for me. It's fine, but can I have a tampon? Please? 97 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: It's not going to be pretty in jail. But he 98 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: kind of like laughed at me because I don't think 99 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: he was expecting me to be like, yeah, no, I know. 100 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: I was totally on my phone and I I went 101 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 1: through the thing, and you can give me a ticket. 102 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: It's fine. I don't know where my registration is, give 103 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: me a second. And he kind of laughing, kind of chuckled, 104 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: and he was he was like an older he's probably 105 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: in his fifties. He probably has a menopausal wife. Prob 106 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: he recognized the scientists. I'm gonna let this one goal. 107 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: He did. You can see like the sweat he knows, 108 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: like I'm having a hot flash, sir, please just let me. 109 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: He's so he came back and he was like, and 110 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: I know, put the phone down and stop, and he 111 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: goes pretty much, Oh go, You're awesome, dude. That's funny. 112 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: And then I called you because you were texting me, 113 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: So do your symptoms fall in line with pre menopause 114 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: changes in period? Me? My mom she was thirty four 115 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: and she went to the doctors because she thought she 116 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: was having another baby. But like, how do how how 117 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: would I date pre menopausele pre menopause or boast? I 118 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: mean all the above, Like can you imagine being like, Hi, 119 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm in menopause, I'm super sexy. Let's start there. I 120 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: don't think it would be any different. No, I just 121 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: heard that, like megmenopause scares me, and like the fact 122 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: that we've even are getting onto that level. It's usually 123 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: like fifty though, right. Do you know what my doctor 124 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: asked me the other day. We were talking about like 125 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: mammograms and colon stuff, colot whatever, and I'm like he's like, 126 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: we gotta start thinking about that. He's like, but that's 127 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: like in your fifties, and I was like, oh my god, 128 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: that's like twelve years away. Well you started mammograms at forty. 129 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: I know that because you're I just started. Just did 130 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: my first one. Did they smash your booby? Yeah? Plant pops? 131 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: Can it pop? It won't pop, but I mean it 132 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: might feel like it's kind of stop. Yeah, that's fine. 133 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: I love doing it. Why did I am like give 134 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: me all the preventative crap, like test me for everything? 135 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: I want test for everything, and they won't do it. 136 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: Probably because of like radiation, Well yeah, probably, I know. 137 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. You like, I don't want cancer, so 138 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: radiate me to like show me that I don't give me. Um, yeah, no, 139 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've always just like, wasn't your mom 140 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: kind of I mean, I don't know. I don't remember 141 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: with my mom going through I'm just gonna need to 142 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: start doing research. I think the heart flashes and stuff 143 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: like that, and then obviously like, I mean, yes, there's 144 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: a lot of negatives to it. But honestly, though a 145 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: hot flash sounds great, I'm always freezing. Yes, we can 146 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: turn the air down in your house. Is it really 147 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: that bad? I mean it's okay right now, but it's 148 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: usually about sevent and it's roasting. I like a warmhouse. 149 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: What can I say, warm heart, a warmhouse, warm heart. 150 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: M I don't think that works. No, you know, I excape. Thanks. Um, 151 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: so there was that. That was my morning and UM 152 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: really excited to get Jace back into school. That's going 153 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: to be good. He's Um, what age do you think 154 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: you should bring a kid to therapy? Oh that's a 155 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: good question. I could see myself putting my twelve year 156 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: old in therapy. I think it depends. I think it 157 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: depends on trauma. I think it depends. He seems a little. 158 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: I know he's having a hard time. That seems a little. 159 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: I feel like at this age it would just be someone. 160 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how how that would work at this stage. Yeah, 161 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,599 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what's transition and what's divorced 162 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: with him so hard with his age. Yeah. The only 163 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: time I ever get angry at my ex now is 164 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: when the kid screams for him. It was Jason, when 165 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: Jay screams for him because I'm like, I don't want 166 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: look he's upset like that breaks my heart because you know, 167 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: my kids are like triggers life. Yeah, so I'm like, God, 168 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: I hate you for doing this. Um. That was not 169 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: nice to say, though, I mean, I think it's only 170 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: human and I think he would understand that. Um. But 171 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: I also think that as he gets older, I mean, 172 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: he's still young, He's not going to keep screaming for 173 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: his dad. I wouldn't think as he gets older. You know, 174 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: it worries me too, is other kids, Like what if 175 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: I start hanging out with some of that has kids, 176 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: That'll be interesting because like the kids would be attached. 177 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: It's like when do you introduce the kids at the kid? 178 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: That is a big Yeah. I would wait a while 179 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: because like I mean, of course I would get attached 180 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: to the kids, but like my kids would get attached 181 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: to the kids. And I saw like my brother's divorce 182 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: and play out secondhand with that because it's like they 183 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: were all and then it's just then they don't see 184 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: the kids anymore. It's like, well, how unfair is that 185 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: for the kids? I think unless you're able to be 186 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: like absolute adults about it and allow them to still 187 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: have a relationship. And I feel like I know somebody 188 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: in that situation, um where they just you know, they 189 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: were like brothers and sisters for a while, so you 190 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: kind of have to allow them to still have that 191 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: relationship if you introduce it. If I would never force it, 192 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: but if it's something they wanted, because you're ripping something 193 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: from them, you know. I you know what I started 194 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: thinking there day too, is I'm the holidays. I started 195 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: working on the calendar because I in charge of doing 196 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: our co parenting calendar. And it's just that I'm like, 197 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, things change weekly daily, yes, 198 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: with my life, and I'm like, I just I hope 199 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: that I'm not if I please help me not be 200 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: sad like I came and talked about during the holidays. Yeah, 201 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: it'll be hard for you. Yeah, it'll be hard. I 202 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: can think about. Okay, next topics, give that one some time. 203 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: Next topic, Um, what's funny right now in the world? 204 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: What's funny? Talking my kids? I just get upset. I 205 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: know that's me in therapy. Oh, speaking of therapy, Canna 206 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: say what the other day? Please? That was hilarious, which 207 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: but I just want to say, though, I need you 208 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: to affirm yourself that you are making that choice for 209 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: yourself not anybody else. Oh yes, And honestly, I'm going 210 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: to be honest. I think this podcast was that a 211 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: lot to do with it. Talking to cal the other 212 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: day a couple weeks ago, like that was that was good? Um, 213 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: And obviously you're always helpful with that. But yes, I 214 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: mean I think with me, it's like I'm like, yes, 215 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: I but I can only push you so far. I 216 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: can you just like help with You're very helpful with yeah. Um. 217 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: Which I've seen a therapist before, years ago. It's been 218 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: a long time. So I decided that I was going 219 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: to call a therapist and sit down, you know whatever. Um. 220 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: So I asked Janna for hers, which we had talked 221 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: to her on the podcast before. Um, Amy Alexander over 222 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: at a refuge center in Nashville or Franklin. They're incredible. Yes. 223 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: So loved her, loved talking to her that day. So 224 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: I was like, I'll reach out to Amy. So I 225 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: amail Amy and I'm like new client and I'm like, hey, 226 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: it's Katherine, you know blah blah blah. Um, I would 227 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: love if you have time to sit down with you 228 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And she was like, um, do you 229 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: have time today? For a quick five minute call, and 230 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: I was like, she's not gonna take me, Like what 231 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: do I need to say to make sure that she 232 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: takes me? Janna blah blah blah. So she calls me 233 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: and she's like, what would you say your main concern is? 234 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: And then I go into like, well, you know whatever, 235 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: my main concern um and then she's like, would you 236 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: like to share your main concern or no? Sure? I mean, 237 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: I like, of course, this is a five minute phone call. 238 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, let's see, like I've been married 239 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: for fourteen years, we have wraps and downs and then 240 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: like I've got family trauma and blah blah blah. Say, 241 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: I go through the whole and trying to figure out 242 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: when I'm unhappy in our marriage, like why I'm unhappy, 243 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: not just like what he's doing wrong or you know, 244 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm very aware that it's a lot of times is 245 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: me and me being unhappy and just kind of trying 246 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: to figure me out more, I guess, and then obviously 247 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: going back to the childhood traumas and stuff like that. 248 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: So I go into the whole spiel and clearly I 249 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: figure out that's like really not what she wanted and 250 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: she's like okay. She's like, well, she's like beating around 251 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: the bush a little bit. But you know, she was like, 252 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: usually I don't see like family members or good friends 253 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: of other clients. And I was like, oh no, no, no, no, 254 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm not coming to talk about Janna. She's great. She's like, okay, 255 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: as long as that's not part of your concern. I 256 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: was like, no, that's pretty funny. I love it. She 257 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: was just like, you can't come in here and like 258 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: like Janna, she's just like the worst boss ever. Like 259 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: and so then I told Janna, I was like, you're 260 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: gonna know when I go get another therapist, it's because 261 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm not happy with you. Oh my god, that would 262 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: be the worst anymore. Oh what am I doing wrong? 263 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: Wait wait await, but I mean vice versa. You can't 264 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: talk about me either, but I talk about you all 265 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: the time, but not in a way of like negative. 266 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: I'll just be like, oh, Catherine brought this up to 267 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: me and she made a really good write or like 268 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: Catherine noticed this and me and because it's like those again, 269 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: like you are the one that kind of um sees 270 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: me or you see me every day, so you're the 271 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: ones that you hold you pay them, especially hold me accountable. 272 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: So when you say something to me, then I usually 273 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: write it down and then bring that to therapy and 274 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: be like, hey, they brought this up, like why do 275 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: I do that right? Or like how how come? Or 276 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: which I'm sure I'll do that too because you point 277 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: out all that you know, yeah, like I know, just 278 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: talk about each other. But no, no, it's just that 279 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: we just can't say like like you can't be my problem. 280 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: I can't problem would suck. I feel like we're good though, right, Yeah, 281 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: everything's great, everything, everything is fine. But I'm really really 282 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: proud of you because I think it's I think, if 283 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: I can speak openly, I feel like you, um, I 284 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: make up that you think there has to be an 285 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: issue wrong with the marriage, like Nick cheats or he 286 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: drinks or he is and for for why, like you 287 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: might be unhappy, and it's like there, there doesn't need 288 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: to be a reason, it's just but figuring out why 289 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: you're unhappy is you know the goal? I guess right 290 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: for sure? Well, I think it all goes back to 291 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, my pa, it's getting divorced and my mom leaving, 292 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: and they're not being a real reason. But also the 293 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: mom leaving, So I have this whole and I've always 294 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: told him. I've told him from the very beginning of 295 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: our marriage, like I will never stay in a marriage 296 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: just for the kids, because my parents tried to, Like 297 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: my mom tried to stay until I was eighteen, but 298 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: she ended up leaving a sixteen. And I was like, 299 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: if you're unhappy, you should have left a long time ago. 300 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: But I think that trauma. It's like I don't want 301 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: to be not that we're getting divorced, but like I 302 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: don't want to be the one to leave or unless 303 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: I have a reason, I guess well, And unfortunately you 304 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: have said to me a lot like I mean, like 305 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: it's not like Mike, like he didn't didn't nicked and cheat, 306 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: and like Kavine, he doesn't have to cheat for me 307 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: to be unhappy. Like there's things and like again, you 308 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: guys have been married for so long, and I'm so 309 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: proud that like you're going to figure out like because 310 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: it might have nothing to do. It might be little 311 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: things that like y'all can figure out together. But also 312 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: fourteen years is a long time, Like you know, those 313 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: we've had people on and you just might have missed 314 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: that one season of growing back together, you know, when 315 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: Pastor cal Had says something that was so helpful because 316 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: it was like, you know a lot of the time, 317 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily like it's something going on in you, 318 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: and that's what kind of prompted it. Like I feel 319 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: that way, Like I don't feel like, I mean, it's 320 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: a great guy, you know, I mean it's not like 321 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: but is it? You know, I find myself in these 322 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: moments when I'm upset with him where I'm ad. I'm 323 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: just like, I feel like this is more just my feeling. 324 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really honestly feel like there's really 325 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: something specific he's doing that it's more me. So I 326 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: just have to kind of is that where the emotion 327 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: comes from? Then when you going to therapy? Is that 328 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: really emotion? Like when you because when you because I 329 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: you rarely cry, Oh I do in therapy, right, So 330 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: that's that's where I'm like, what's feel like, Oh, it's 331 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: either talking about my kids, just like I mean if 332 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: I talk if I go in therapy and I talk 333 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: about like how it's going to affect my kids, I 334 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: mean that makes me cry every time. Um or when 335 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: I do get because I can be vulnerable. I do 336 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: not like to be vulnerable, but I can. I just 337 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: don't think I was taught to. I think I grew 338 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: up in a family where you don't talk about feelings, 339 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: you don't show affection, you don't I don't know how 340 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: to do that in like a healthy way, and just 341 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: literally was not shown how to do that. So I 342 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: just automatically put up a wall. If something happens, wall 343 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: goes up, you know. Um. But in therapy, I can 344 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: be vulnerable. I can talk about it. So that's usually 345 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: where the emotion will come too, because I'm addressing the 346 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: things in me that are not like I could be like, well, 347 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 1: I know I did this and this was wrong in 348 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: our marriage, and that will make me upset, you know. 349 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: So Yeah, and you've suppressed these feelings for probably years 350 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: and years, so it's like it's all just like bottles. 351 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't like to talk about it, Yeah, Or if 352 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: we start to talk about whatever it is, then I'll 353 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: usually just it'll just be a blow up because I 354 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it. He's better at talking 355 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: about things than I am, for sure, But I'm so 356 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: out of you appreciate that. I'm really proud um. All right, Well, 357 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: on that note, we have Mel Robbins coming on, who 358 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: is an incredible emotional UM speaker, motivational, emotional. She was 359 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: very emotional, No, incredible motivational speaker. She's um. We had 360 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: her on last January. It was last January, last January, 361 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: no mom, January, mom mom before that. Yeah, oh yeah, wow, 362 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: m yep. So I'm gonna have her on and I've 363 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: do you remember her five three two one? Remember she 364 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: was five four three two one? Get up and do 365 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 1: like I've used that in since the divorce because there 366 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: were so many times where I would just like lay 367 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: there staring at a wall and I'm like, okay, I 368 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: no joke, have to count myself down to get up, 369 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: and it's fascinating how it does work. So I'm gonna 370 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: bring yourself to her again and um take a break 371 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: and have her. What up everybody? Hi? How are you? 372 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: I miss you? Oh? Well, it's so nice to see you. Boy. 373 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: You've had a hell of a year. Girlfriend, talk about 374 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: it now right we can? And you know what's so 375 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: crazy is I referenced that the Momuary back in last January, 376 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: and I obviously couldn't tell people at the time, what 377 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: was going on last January? UM, And I honestly didn't 378 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: even know the full extent of it until a few 379 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: months ago. But UM, I just remember I always remembered 380 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: your words, I always remembered what you said, and it 381 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: was just I have such a and since that day 382 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: and since that podcast with you, I've just had such 383 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: a connection to you in your words, because you're just 384 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: so right. Well, I mean, I don't want to be 385 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: right honestly, I feel like, Um, having talked to so 386 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: many people, reaching so many people, and also studying and 387 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: digging so deep into the research around human behavior and 388 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: habits and all this stuff, and also having like kind 389 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: of screwed up my own life. I've been on both 390 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: the receiving end of heartbreak and I've been on the 391 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: delivering end of it and struggling with childhood drama and 392 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: really only fully starting to understand it. They're just patterns 393 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: of behavior, there are patterns of thinking that trip us 394 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: all up. And you know, the one thing that I 395 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: want you to know is that you are really really 396 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: well known. But I think in in it's important for 397 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: you to also understand I didn't even know what was 398 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: going on in your life. Recently until we sat down 399 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: to UM, you know, do this interview and I and 400 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: I basically was like, well, let me see what's been 401 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: going on since I talked to her last time. And 402 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. And so I want you 403 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: to know that it can feel like the whole world 404 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: knows everything that's happening, and don't allow yourself to magnify 405 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: this because I want you to know your friend Mel 406 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: Robbins didn't have a clue about any of the details 407 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: of anything. And so I think understanding that not everybody 408 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: knows and that life will go on, and don't magnify 409 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: the stuff that's happening in your life to something bigger 410 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: than it is, because the stuff that you're going through 411 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: so many people go through and most people aren't even 412 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: paying attention. And so I don't want you to feel 413 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: self conscious. I actually think that your story and the 414 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: things that you're going through and your willingness to talk 415 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: about what you will or what you won't UM, it 416 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: helps everybody. Well, I mean, thank you for saying that. 417 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: And I think I think I struggled with UM because 418 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: you are such like the comeback like you're the comeback relationship. 419 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: You're the comeback, you know, and like all of that 420 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: was like, you know, your marriage was about to fall apart. 421 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: You were depressed, and so I looked at you and 422 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,239 Speaker 1: I understood the words that you were saying a year 423 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: and a half ago. But at the same time, I'm like, 424 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: well if if that, if they can change, then we can. 425 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: Well what exactly did I say to you? So let's 426 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: go there. Um, when you you mentioned something about repeated 427 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: patterns or something to be to take notice of. Yeah, like, 428 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: don't listen to what somebody says, watch what they do, 429 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: and then pattern to see the pattern to continue to repeat. 430 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: It's kind of like you basically said, he's not gonna 431 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: not cheat. Yes, correct, and you were right like you 432 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's and and it was And I think 433 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: that was so hard because I wanted to look at 434 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: other people's lives that have made at work and being like, 435 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: well maybe this is the Maybe now they'll eventually change. 436 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: Maybe now we can actually do what we say we're doing. Well, 437 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question, Sure, when did 438 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: you know that he was going to cheat again? Because 439 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: my suspicion is that your issue is that you're not 440 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: listening to yourself and if you look back on the 441 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: patterns in your life. And I don't even know the 442 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: patterns in your life, but if you look back on 443 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: the patterns in your own life, I guarantee you what 444 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: you will see when you're taking a very hard and 445 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: honest look as a pattern of behavior. Are you know 446 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: what is true? And you betray yourself for the sake 447 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: of somebody else. And it is probably a pattern that 448 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: has been going on since you were a little girl. 449 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 1: And the reason why I say this is because in 450 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: my own life, the biggest heartbreaks, the biggest punches in 451 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: the face, the most horrible things that I've ever had 452 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: to go through. When I really stop and I take 453 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: a look at myself, I realized, holy shot, this is 454 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: a pattern that has been present in my life, typically 455 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: due to trauma from childhood that life has been trying 456 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: to wake me up to. And it's just gotten bigger 457 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger until life 458 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: hands me a sledgehammer and I finally wake up and 459 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: pay attention. So, for example, I'm going to share a story, 460 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: um so I um you know, I think I can 461 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: remember if we talked about this when I was when 462 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: I had a conversation with you last time, but we 463 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: I shared you know this story is public. When I 464 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: was in the fourth grade, I was molested and we 465 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: were on a skeep vacation with a bunch of other 466 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: families and all the kids were in a bunk room 467 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: and I woke up, as a fourth grader in the 468 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: middle of the night. I was dead asleep. I woke 469 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: up and there was an older kid on top of me. 470 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: And the fact is, in terms of the span of 471 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: things that can happen in somebody's life, in terms of 472 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: sexual abuse, this was really mild. It was a one off. 473 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: It was not scary. It was confusing, and I literally 474 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: disassociated in the moment as this kid was on top 475 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: of me. And I don't even know how it ended. 476 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: I just woke up the next morning and I felt 477 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: that something was wrong, and I felt that I had 478 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: done something wrong. And then I walked downstairs and my 479 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: mom is there cooking breakfast with the other moms, and 480 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: she turns and just says, hi, honey, how to sleep? 481 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: And I immediately wanted to tell her, but there was 482 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: this kid right at the corner of my eye. Now, 483 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: my mom's amazing. My mom grew up on a cattle farm. 484 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: She would have taken that spatchel and knocked that kid 485 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: into next week. Like there was no question how my 486 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: mother was going to respond to this. I could not 487 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: predict how he was going to and so in that moment, 488 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: I betrayed myself and I did not tell the truth. 489 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: And I did it in order to keep the peace. 490 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: And what's interesting, and look, here's the thing about human beings. 491 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: We are unbelievably designed. There's so much intelligence in our 492 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: DNA and her body and her soul, in her mind 493 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: and her spirit, and all of it is amazing. There 494 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: is one profound, fundamental flaw in human design, and that 495 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: is when you're a little kid and something happens to you, 496 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: you do not have the life experience most of us 497 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: don't have the support system, and you do not have 498 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: the internal wirling to go, well, this is screwed up. 499 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: That kid probably did that because somebody's doing it to him. 500 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: These adults should be arrested, Like no kid does that. 501 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: We all go there's something wrong with me, and we 502 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: stop listening and we silence that wisdom and that intuition, 503 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: and then for the rest of your life you're like, 504 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: what happens. In order to heal, you can take a 505 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: look at where are the patterns that developed in your 506 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: life where you were just trying to survive the stuff 507 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: that happened to you as a kid. You're just doing 508 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: the best that you could. And for me, the pattern 509 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: that I can now see is that I was always 510 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: drawn towards really big personalities, really unpredictable people, because they 511 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: felt fun and sexy and amazing. And then when I 512 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: would get close to that person that has a big personality, 513 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: I would realize, oh, God, like this person is dangerous, 514 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: they're a narcissist, or they are unpredictable, or through this 515 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: or that. And then, just like I was in the 516 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: fourth grade, worried about somebody's reaction, I would go right 517 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: into that trauma pattern, but staying silent, I would know 518 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: that I needed to not be a friend with this 519 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: person or doing a business with this person, you know, 520 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: in terms of conducting business that I shouldn't be, you know, 521 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: having this person in my life in whatever capacity. Like 522 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: it's over, and like the pattern is as clear as day. 523 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm drawn to a certain type of personality because it 524 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: matches an old pattern, and then I go right into 525 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: the coping mechanism of allowing stuff to happen and staying 526 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: silent about it, and then I'm the one that gets hurt. 527 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: And so the breakthrough for me is in seeing that 528 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: it's connected to trauma, doing the work to heal my 529 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: nervous system so I don't get triggered, and being very 530 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: mindful about the kinds of situations and the people that 531 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm around. And so I believe if you are being 532 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: honest with yourself, there was a moment where you knew 533 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: in your heart this this guy's gonna cheat again, and 534 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: I know it, but for the sake of keeping the 535 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: peace or being the good one or staying silent or whatever, 536 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: you didn't listen to it. Mhm, No, I mean you're 537 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: one thousand percent right. And when you said that, I 538 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: started to just get like, you know, um, kind of 539 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: a heavy chest and emotion emotional, just because yeah, I mean, 540 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: if I if I really really truly we're being you know, 541 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: being honest. I mean, yeah, I probably I always knew 542 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: he had cheat. I just never wanted to believe that, yes, 543 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: but you know, seeing the repeated patterns, and even when 544 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: I spoke to you during that momuary, I mean knowing 545 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: now what I know what was actually going on, then, 546 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: um I I knew, like I there was that piece 547 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: of me that that knew, just like my best friend 548 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: Katherine was like I always knew, and I you know 549 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: I had. And but also what's sad too is kind 550 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: of what you were saying from my childhood, from traumas 551 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: and stuff, that's I've always picked the abuser. And so 552 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: there was something that happened when we first started dating 553 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: that I've don't think I'll ever actually share, but um 554 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: in and in that moment, I was like, it was 555 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: that sign like I have have to leave this, but 556 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: I then that was that was that was that was 557 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: the moment that I betrayed myself was because I didn't 558 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: want to see his reaction or know what his reaction 559 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: would be, so I allowed it to happen for the 560 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: rest of our marriage. Well, so here's the thing I 561 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: want you to understand. So first things first, Um, especially 562 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: as somebody that was a trained crisis intervention counselor and 563 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: I volunteered on a domestic violence hotline for four years, 564 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: and being somebody that was a public defender from legal aid, 565 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that you don't ever hear 566 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: this as you're to blame for anything. What I want 567 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: you to understand is that inside every breakdown of your life, 568 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: inside every heartbreak, every trauma, every horrendous thing that you've 569 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: ever survived, if you look closely, you will find the 570 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: keys that will unlock the cage that you've been trapped in. 571 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: And I believe the cage that you're probably trapped in. 572 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: And I'm just going to throw things at you and 573 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: they're either going to feel like, oh that rings true 574 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: or not. Almost like if we were shopping, I would throw, hey, 575 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: try this. I know you don't like this color bridges. 576 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: Try it on um and you're the one has to 577 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: see if it fits. You're the one who has to 578 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: unpack it with your therapist. But I think it's really 579 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: important for you two take this incredible thing that's happened 580 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: in your life and see it as a dot on 581 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: the map of your life, like everything that's ever happened 582 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: to you has led you to this moment, and this 583 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: moment is going to lead you just like a dot, 584 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: another dot on the map of your life to somewhere extraordinary. 585 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: If you take the time to unpack the lesson that's 586 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: meant for you in this and what's meant for you 587 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: in this is not to blame yourself. It's not to 588 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: excuse the behavior that you endured from somebody else. It's 589 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: to understand what happened to you that made you equate 590 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: this kind of treatment with love. And so it probably 591 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: started with something you witnessed in childhood or experienced in 592 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: the home that you were growing up with. You don't 593 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: have to talk about it, but what I want you 594 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: to realize is somewhere along the line, in your your 595 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: baby or your toddler or your young brain, the experience 596 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 1: of being loved got fused with being treated poorly. And 597 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: so what you need to do, in addition to healing 598 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: your nervous system, which we can talk about, we can 599 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: talk about high five in your heart, which I definitely 600 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: want you to start doing, yes to talk about that, yep. 601 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: And in addition to high fiving yourself in the mirror, 602 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: which is so deep and which you need because what 603 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: you've been doing, and what all of us do in 604 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: various ways in our lives, is we look outside of 605 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: ourselves for love and validation. And the best way to 606 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: heal yourself is to start working on and building an 607 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: incredible partnership with yourself to learn how to love yourself, 608 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: accept yourself, forgive yourself for exactly where you are right 609 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: now and exactly where you're not. Because the relationship you 610 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: have with yourself is the foundation of every relation and 611 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: ship that you have in life. So if you are 612 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 1: insecure with yourself, you will be insecure in other relationships. 613 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: If you don't truly love yourself and treat yourself with love, 614 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: you will not even be able to accept that somebody 615 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: else truly loves you. And so we need to and 616 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: you have a huge opportunity to go. Okay, I get it, 617 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: I get it. I need to truly empower myself and 618 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: listen to all of those instincts and the wisdom that 619 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: comes up, because the fact is I knew I just 620 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: didn't listen to myself. That's all that happened. I was 621 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: too scared to listen to myself. And I'm not even 622 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: gonna blame myself for that. I'm I I'm just gonna 623 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: learn the lesson and I'm gonna forgive myself for not 624 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: listening to myself, and then I'm gonna practice rebuilding a 625 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: connection and a trust with myself. And you can do 626 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: it you can. Yeah, it's actually really awesome. No, I mean, 627 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: it's definitely been fun to to do that because I 628 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: think I have not listen to my gut for so 629 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: many years in my life, and that's just been the 630 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: like the biggest, like you said, betrayal. But I also 631 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: it's you know, obviously working through some trauma pieces in 632 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: childhood and early relationships with like M d R with 633 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: my therapist, and it's been it's been really good. But yeah, 634 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: finding that worthiness that I am okay. I don't need 635 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: a validation from a man, I don't need um that 636 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm okay alone, Like all those things have been a 637 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: true um blessing that has come out of this, like 638 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: the divorce um. And I'm still working on it, like 639 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: it's it's still I still have moments of um of 640 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: self doubt and the voices and all those things Like God, 641 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: of course who does it for It will be a 642 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: lifelong journey. And because what you're talking about is repairing 643 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: your nervous system from past trauma. And when your nervous 644 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: system is hardwired to react, it reacts before your brain does. 645 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: And one of the things that I write about in 646 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: this new book that I want you to start practicing 647 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: as this high five to your heart, and we can 648 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: get into this because I think that when I unpack 649 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: everything for you, you're going to have a moment where 650 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: you go, oh my god, like this is it. This 651 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: is foundational what Miles talking about. Before we get into 652 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: the high five thing, I just want to say one 653 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: thing that I the last and I was telling Catherine 654 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: this UM before you came on the last UM four 655 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: or five months post divorce. I have used five two 656 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 1: one almost daily because when I get into those moments 657 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: where I'm literally just staring at a wall, or I'm depressed, 658 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: or I'm missing my kids and because they're at their 659 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: dads or UM or I just don't even want to 660 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: get up, I have used three to one and it 661 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: it's been incredible how much it actually works and just 662 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: it gets you up, and I'm like, okay, and I 663 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: just thank you for that because we I know, we 664 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: talked about that, and you guys can listen to the 665 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: podcast where you know she she goes into one. But 666 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: it's incredible change of mindset that is so helpful when 667 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: you are just at your lowest. So I appreciate you 668 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: for that. Well, thank you for that, and thank you 669 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: for using it. And I want to tell you something 670 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: really exciting. So the five second rule, I mean, it's extraordinary. 671 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 1: It's it's so dumb, it's so simple, it's so easy. 672 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: It works, it's like weird. Um. The science behind it's crazy, 673 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: and um, you know, we know millions of people's lives 674 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: who have changed, including a hundred and eleven people who 675 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: have stopped themselves from attempting suicide by counting backwards five, 676 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: three to one and asking for help. And it is 677 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: a tool that will push you to interrupt thoughts that 678 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: are torturing you. It's a tool that will push you 679 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: to take action, push you to do the work to 680 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: change life. It's it's extraordinary as a tool that way. 681 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: But I need I need some more tools though, So 682 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: I want to hear. I want to I want to 683 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: tell you something. Even knowing all of that, I cannot 684 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: wait for you to truly understand and learn the high 685 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: five habit because I think it is even more profound, 686 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: it works even more deeply, and there is no mistake 687 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: in why we're talking today because it is exactly what 688 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: you need. And so let me tell you the story 689 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: of how this got created. Because again, you know, like 690 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: my brand of personal development is screw up my own life, 691 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: find myself at a hole? Word can ladder Like, like, 692 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 1: how do I get out of this? Yes? I can? 693 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: I just please be like somebody who reads this stuff 694 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: in a book and applies it. Why do I have 695 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: to pick up my life? Like I don't understand why 696 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: I have to make things so difficult? Thank you for doing? 697 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: Like I said. Situation where I'm like, Okay, it's been 698 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: five years since I have had a book out. I 699 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: guess I need to write a book about five you know. 700 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: But that's not what happened. Like I literally find myself 701 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: and this is not a pandemic book, but here's what 702 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: happens in my in my life, So I find myself. 703 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: We all have a quarantine story, right, We all know 704 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: the moment that your life imploded because of COVID and 705 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, this is actually a thing, and my 706 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: whole life just changed. And for me, when was it that? 707 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: When was it that you knew? Oh, like COVID is 708 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: for real and my whole life just changed. When I 709 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: got sent home from the movie, yeah, production shutdown, and 710 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: I was like, well here we are, like we're all 711 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: locked down. Nanny went away. Never got one back, like yes, yes, yeah, 712 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: like whether it was an email from work that no 713 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: one's going to the office or you can't visit your grandparents. Uh, 714 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, for me, it was very similar to yours. 715 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: We were filming my daytime talk show. Somebody walks in 716 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: the studio at CBS Broadcast Center and says, COVID is 717 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: in the building. You need to evacuate immediately, and like 718 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: that show canceled. I'm fired from my dream job. Don't 719 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: get to say goodbye to the hundred and thirty people 720 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: I've been working with for a year. I'm driving home. 721 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, my daughter's calling from Spain, where 722 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: she's studying abroad during college. Oh my god, they're closing 723 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: the borders. How am I going to get out of here? 724 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: And then my daughter calls from usc where she's a 725 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: music student. Oh my mom, they're shutting the door. What's 726 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: a all? Next thing, you know, the next three weeks 727 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 1: are a blur. I'm in my pajamas for three weeks straight. 728 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 1: I'm drinking bloody marries at eleven o'clock in the morning, Like, 729 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: I just have no idea. What's happening. Every speech is canceled, 730 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: a book contract gets canceled. I'm fired from and I'm thinking, 731 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? After working this hard? I have 732 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: to reinvent myself again? Haven't we been through this? Come on? God? Like, 733 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm literally so angry, and I'm also beaten down like 734 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: everybody else, Like I'm worried about the people that work 735 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: for me. I'm worried about making payroll. I'm worried about 736 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: my parents. I'm worried about frontline workers. I'm worried about 737 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: my kids who are anxiety stricken and angry and full 738 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: of grief. And college is imploded, and just the world 739 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: is upside down, and and I know everybody can relate 740 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: to this. So I wake up one morning and I 741 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 1: just feel the way of the world on my shoulders. 742 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: I am overwhelmed by the amount I have to do, 743 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: by the problems that I'm facing, by the stress that 744 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: I feel, by the loneliness that I feel. I use 745 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 1: the five second or five or three to one, even 746 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: thirteen years later, I don't like getting out of bed, 747 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: and I still use it every morning. And it's important 748 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: for everybody to know that, because I know we all 749 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: hear that. You know, if you practice something twenty one 750 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: days in a row, it's a habit. Well, that's true 751 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: if you like it. If you don't like what you 752 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: have to do, you gotta keep on pushing yourself. And 753 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: so five or three to one, I pushed myself out 754 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: of bed. I always make my bed. On that morning, 755 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: I made the bed so I wouldn't crawl back into it. 756 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: I dragged myself to the bathroom and there I am 757 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: standing in my underwear and I feel you'll exhausted, and 758 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm brushing my teeth, and all of a sudden, I 759 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: catch a glimpse of my reflection in the mirror, and 760 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: I think, oh my god, you look like hell. And 761 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: the woman I saw in the mirror had dark circles 762 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: under her eyes, and a saggy neck, and one boobs 763 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: hanging lower than the other, and gray hair is coming in. 764 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: She looked tired, overwhelmed, beaten down. I actually felt sad 765 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: for her, and I started picking her apart. And then, 766 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: of course, once you start thinking a negative thought, your 767 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: thoughts just spiral even lower. I started like beating myself up. 768 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: Why to get up so late? I've got a zoom 769 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: call in eight minutes. How I'm gonna pull myself together? 770 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: I see the dog at my feet. I haven't even 771 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: walked the damn dog yet. And here's the interesting thing. 772 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: If you had walked into the bathroom at that moment, 773 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: I could have pivoted on a dime. I would have 774 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: been like, honey, oh come on, I know this isn't fair, 775 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: I know this sucks. I know you don't deserve it, 776 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,959 Speaker 1: but if anybody can handle it, it's you. I would 777 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: have picked you up. I would have sent you on 778 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: your way. But standing there with myself, I couldn't think 779 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 1: of a damn thing to say. And you know what, 780 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't have believed it anyway. That's how beaten 781 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: down I felt. And I don't know what came over me, 782 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: but I literally raised my hand, as cheesy as it sounds, 783 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: and I high five the woman I saw in the 784 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: mirror because I knew she needed it. And here's the thing. 785 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: It's not like lightning stroke and I suddenly, oh, like 786 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,720 Speaker 1: changed my life. That's not what happened. But something shifted 787 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: like my I felt my shoulders drop, I felt my 788 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: chin lift. I laughed because it's so dumb, like I'm 789 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: standing there in my underwearth a dog and I'm never 790 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: brawn and I'm high fiving, like how pathetic is this? 791 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: But I laugh and all of a sudden, I just 792 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: feel a little better and I go on with my day. Now. 793 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: It was the second morning that something really clicked for me. 794 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: I woke up, same overwhelmed, same problems. I used the 795 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: five second or five or three too, want to get 796 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: out of bed. I make my bed, I start walking 797 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: to the bathroom, and as I'm about to round the 798 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: corner and step into the bathroom, I feel something I 799 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: have never ever felt before. And this is what I felt. 800 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 1: You know how when you go and you're going to 801 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: meet a friend for a cup of coffee, somebody you 802 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: really like, and you're about to walk into the coffee 803 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: shop to see this person you really like, What is 804 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: it that you feel happy a friend just to see 805 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: a friend? Yeah, Like you're like, oh friend, Yeah, you're 806 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: excited looking forward to it. I felt that way about 807 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: the idea of seeing myself. You're being a friend here, 808 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm gonna be fifty three years old this year. 809 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: I have never felt that before. In my entire life, 810 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,240 Speaker 1: I have looked forward to seeing my outfit, we're seeing 811 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: my hairstyle or how the new eye shadow looks. I 812 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: have never experienced the feeling of looking forward to seeing 813 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,240 Speaker 1: the human being. Mel Robbins. Do you think it's because 814 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: we always carry our shame or we carry our past 815 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, we're not worthy enough, we're not 816 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: good enough, we're not like it's all the negative voices 817 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,919 Speaker 1: that we've put on us that like, why why would 818 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: I want to be me friend? Catherine wants to be 819 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: my friend, but I don't want to be my friend. Yeah, why, 820 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: I think it's those so deep? I think it is 821 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: so deep. I think we have a habit that we 822 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: don't realize. Everybody talks about morning routines. Will you have one? 823 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,720 Speaker 1: You stand in front of yourself and you either ignore 824 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 1: yourself or you beat the out of yourself. That's your habit, 825 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: that's your relationship with yourself. That's what everybody on the 826 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 1: planet does. And so as I walked into the bathroom 827 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: that morning, this whole idea of the high five felt 828 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: a little bit more profound. And so I finished brushing 829 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: my teeth and I and I want you know, when 830 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: you practice this, do it right after you brush your teeth, 831 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,280 Speaker 1: because based on the research, when you stack a habit 832 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: with some a new habit with something you're already doing, 833 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: it's way easier for your brain to remember it, to 834 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: encode it in your neural pathways, and to make it 835 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: something you always do. And so I put the toothbrush 836 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: down and I take a minute, and I'm just staring 837 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: at myself and I'm not even seeing my face or 838 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: my body. I'm just seeing the human being the woman 839 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: that is re flected back in the mirror. And it's 840 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: a very intimate moment. And what I've found in researching 841 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: now this book is how startling it is how many 842 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: people don't even and can't even look at themselves. And 843 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: so I thought to myself, and this is the first 844 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: thing that you're going to do when you practice this, 845 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: is look at the human being that's staring back at you, 846 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: because that's the person you go through life with. There's 847 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: only one human being you spend your whole life with, 848 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 1: and they're with you every morning in the mirror, and 849 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 1: they need you. They need your support, they need your encouragement, 850 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: they need you to cheer for them. They need to 851 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: be seen, they need to be felt, they need to 852 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: be heard, and you have spent almost your whole life 853 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: ignoring them. And so I want you to think, for 854 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 1: just a second, what does the woman in the mirror 855 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: need for me today? How do I need to show 856 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: up for her? And it's an interesting way to set 857 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: an intention because normally, as you think about the day ahead, 858 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: you're thinking about all the things you need to do, 859 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 1: which are typically for everybody else. I want you to 860 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 1: take an intentional moment of reflection with you, and research 861 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 1: from Harvard shows that simply reflecting on how you're going 862 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: to show up today for less than a minute, it 863 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: changes your level of focus and productivity, and it changes 864 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 1: how you show up and your ability to impact people 865 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: around you, including yourself. So ask yourself, how can you 866 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 1: show up for the person that you see in the 867 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: mirror today? And then secondly, ask yourself, what game are 868 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: we going to play today? Like what matters to me 869 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: that I can make a little progress on? And then 870 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: once you kind of think about that, just raise your 871 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: hand and seal it with a high five. Now here's 872 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: the interesting thing about this. The science on this is crazy, absolutely, 873 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: Like you cannot believe how incredible of an idea this is. 874 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,720 Speaker 1: Because I'm about to prove to you that you don't 875 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: have to do anything other than raise your hand in 876 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: high five yourself. You don't have to didn't anything, say anything, 877 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: You don't have to do anything. Your entire nervous system, 878 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: your heart, and your brain are already programmed to receive 879 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: this new like programming. I'm gonna give you. It's incredible. 880 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: So here's what's gonna here's what's gonna happen. First of all, 881 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 1: when you first do this tomorrow morning, you gotta give 882 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: me five days of doing this in a row. You 883 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: cannot do this for one day and then roll your eyes. 884 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be with you so because we're going away, 885 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: so we're like, I'm gonna I want to watch you 886 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: in the mirror and do it too. Okay, you gotta 887 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: do this five days in a row. Because number one, 888 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna feel weird. And let me explain to you, 889 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 1: based on using neuroscience, why it will feel weird. Your 890 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: brain is not wired to do new things. Your brain 891 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 1: loves patterns. This is why you and I were talking 892 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 1: about patterns last time. And so I write, I'm a 893 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: right hander. I don't even think when I'm writing with 894 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: my right hand because it's already a pattern. I could 895 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 1: write with my left hand, but how would it feel 896 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: weird because I've never done it before. But if I 897 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: kept writing with my right hand, Let's say I lost 898 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 1: my arm in an accident, I could learn how to 899 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: write with my left hand, and over time, by repeating it, 900 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: it would become the second nature and wouldn't feel weird. 901 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: So the high five is going to feel weird in 902 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 1: your body because you've never done it before, and in fact, 903 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: you're breaking a habit. That's the opposite of high fiving yourself. 904 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: You are literally breaking the habit of criticizing yourself. So 905 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: the cool thing is that when you go to raise 906 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: your hand and high five your own reflection, your brain 907 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: will kick into a subconscious mode. So let's talk about 908 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 1: a high five. When you give somebody a high five. 909 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 1: When you're like high five and your kids or a 910 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: friend high fives you, what is a high five? The 911 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: gesture alone communicate to you, good job, you're awesome. You 912 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 1: do that to me every time. I so, so when 913 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 1: she high fives you, what does it feel? I know 914 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: you do, I know, It's like I don't know. It 915 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: feels very validating. It feels very like you know, it 916 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: feels good. Yeah, it's I believe in you, I see 917 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: you keep going. I love you. If somebody's going down 918 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 1: and our attitude or energy is low and you high five, 919 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: somebody's like, shug it off, come on, we got this. 920 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: It's celebratory, it's empowering. It's it's positive, it is supportive, 921 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: it's validating. You said the word. It validates your most 922 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 1: foundational needs of being seen, of being loved, being celebrated. 923 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: It feels so good. All of that positive programming associated 924 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: with a high five that you've given to other people, 925 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 1: it's already in your brain. So when you raise your 926 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,280 Speaker 1: hand to your own reflection, your brain recognizes the gesturing 927 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: and you cannot think, I suck, I screwed up my marriage, 928 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,280 Speaker 1: my kids are ruined. You can't even think it because 929 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: your brain won't allow it because forever it has associated 930 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: that positive stuff with the gesture. So the more you 931 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,240 Speaker 1: do it, you silence the stuff you say to yourself, 932 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: and you override it and program in all the positive 933 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 1: stuff associated with a high five with the person in 934 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: the mirror. And that's not all. You get a boost 935 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 1: in your mood. Now. Dr Daniel Aiman, who is the 936 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: world's leading expert on the brain. I talked to him 937 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: for two hours about the high five habit. He went bananas. 938 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: He's like, mel l, do you know why you get 939 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: a boost in your mood? I said no. He said, well, 940 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: because when somebody high fives you in life, you get 941 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: a drip of dopamine, the chemical in your brain that 942 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: makes you feel good. When you high five yourself, your 943 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: brain does the same thing because the action is already programmed, 944 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: is something that you know and do in your brain. 945 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 1: The other thing that happens when you keep doing this 946 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: for more than five days is you will start to 947 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: feel a little jolt of energy. And Dr Daniel Aiman 948 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: explained why to me too. He said, because when you 949 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 1: raise your hand and wave at somebody, it's a positive celebration. 950 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: When you raise your arms to hug somebody, it's a 951 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: positive celebration. When you raise your arm when you cross 952 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: the finish line, it's a positive celebration. When you go 953 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 1: to high five somebody and raise your arm, it's a 954 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 1: positive celebration. When you start to do this every single morning, 955 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: you're nervous system, it's like, oh, of course, it's a 956 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 1: positive celebration of self, and so your nervous system gives 957 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 1: you that feel good, energizing jolt. That's why it immediately 958 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 1: makes you feel like you're leaving the bathroom with a 959 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,720 Speaker 1: little bit of momentum to go face the day instead 960 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: of dragging all your problems with you. It's incredible. Yeah, 961 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,439 Speaker 1: And I like where you say to um, because if 962 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: I was to ask myself what I need, Like if 963 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 1: I was to look in the mirror and be like, 964 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: what do you need today, Like, I'd like, just like 965 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 1: love me, like just like be kind to me, be 966 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 1: nice to me, like love me. And it's like when 967 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,720 Speaker 1: you start to like be like, all right, I got you, 968 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,399 Speaker 1: you know, it's like you're actually being your friend. You're 969 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: you're being you know how I am for my friends 970 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,359 Speaker 1: are like and it's crazy that we don't. We're where 971 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: the we're the worse with ourselves. Let me just let 972 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: me just say that, Like she is so good at 973 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,919 Speaker 1: doing that for other people, of course, I mean by 974 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 1: far the best. I think it's now, like she said, 975 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: you can do it for other people, but then doing 976 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: it for yourself is so important. Nobody has trained you have, 977 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 1: no one, nobody on the planet knows how to do 978 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:27,359 Speaker 1: this for themselves. See, we were born celebrating ourselves. You know, 979 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: if you think about when your kids were really little 980 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 1: and they saw a mirror, they'd crawl right up to 981 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 1: it and kissed themselves. They wouldn't roll backwards and be like, 982 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: look at those size, there's so bad. And my son 983 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 1: Jay's just like he learned how to like climb up 984 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 1: this wall, and he got up from this little wall 985 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: climb and he starts clapping at himself, and I was like, yeah, buddy, 986 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: you did it. Yeah, exactly Exactly what happens is is 987 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 1: that for many people, you grew up in a household 988 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 1: where you're not safe, or where there's a tremendous chaos, 989 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 1: or where you have to like start to cope in 990 00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: ways that make you go silent, or what happens with 991 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 1: everybody as we've all had the experience of taking a 992 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: tray and walking into a Cafeterian elementary school and seeing 993 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of kids you want to go sit with, 994 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: and then what happens is you become your own sorting hat, 995 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 1: and as a means to protect yourself from rejection, you 996 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 1: basically start the negative self talk. You start to tell 997 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 1: yourself where you belong and where you don't. You start 998 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 1: to pick yourself apart and then say, so, go over 999 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 1: here because you don't have the genes that they're wearing. 1000 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 1: Or go over there because your skin color isn't the same, 1001 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: or go here because you don't belong there. And so 1002 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,720 Speaker 1: that's how it begins, through self rejection, and it happens 1003 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,759 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. And that's why there 1004 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 1: are only two reactions that people have to this. You 1005 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: either start doing it and you'll start crying because you'll 1006 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 1: realize how much you've longed to feel this way, or 1007 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: more likely, you're going to resist it. And this is 1008 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: the sad part, and this is what you were talking 1009 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: about just a second ago. The resistance is something that's horrible. 1010 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 1: The resistance is the fact that when you stand in 1011 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 1: front of yourself every morning in the mirror, you drag 1012 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,720 Speaker 1: with you everything from your past. You believe that because 1013 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: of all the things that you've survived, the abuse, the trauma, 1014 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: the heartbreak, the neglect, whatever it is that you've faced, 1015 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 1: that somehow that's evidence that you're unworthy or damaged or 1016 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: broken or whatever you say. Or you take all the 1017 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 1: things that you've done that, you regret that. You can't 1018 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: forgive yourself for that you just did because you were 1019 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: trying to survive all those things you would forgive other 1020 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,439 Speaker 1: people for. But you can't look yourself in the mirror 1021 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: and forgive yourself because you see that as evidence that 1022 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 1: you're a bad person. And then you stand there in judgment, 1023 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 1: which is why you're going to resist this. And what 1024 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm here to say, and what I want every human 1025 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 1: being on this planet to know, is that if you 1026 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: can drag yourself out of bed, if you can stand 1027 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 1: before the mirror and you're still breathing in spite of 1028 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and you're still here trying another day 1029 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 1: to do just a little bit better, you not only 1030 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: deserve a high five, you've earned one. You need one. 1031 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 1: You know, life is a marathon. And if you ever 1032 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: watch a marathon, the spectators don't cross their arms and 1033 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 1: stand at mile eight and go, I'm not clapping for 1034 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 1: you till you get to the finish line. You look terrible. 1035 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 1: You see how lame that timing was for mile five. 1036 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,960 Speaker 1: I think you're a runner. You shouldn't even be in 1037 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 1: this race. We don't do that. We clap and cheer 1038 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 1: just like your son, and we high five them every 1039 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 1: step of the way. Why because the most motivating force 1040 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: on the planet is feeling seen, celebrated and supported, and 1041 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 1: that's what we all need every single step of the way. 1042 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 1: And there's another reason why we don't resist we resist this, 1043 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: and the reason is sad. It's because we've been trained. 1044 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 1: You believe that our worth is measured by whether or 1045 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: not somebody else loves us. Are worth is measured by 1046 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: whether or not we have the followers, or the right car, 1047 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: or the right number on the scale, or the right 1048 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: money in the bank, or you know, if you're not 1049 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: where you think you should be, that you don't deserve 1050 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:22,200 Speaker 1: a high five. And so part of your healing and 1051 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 1: part of you finding your power again is going to 1052 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 1: happen when you can stand in front of that mirror 1053 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: and you can raise your hand and you can celebrate 1054 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 1: and support yourself exactly where you are right now. You 1055 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 1: can see a human being who's trying to heal, you 1056 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: can support her every step of the way. You can 1057 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 1: forgive yourself for the times that you didn't listen to 1058 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,439 Speaker 1: yourself because you didn't know any better, and you can 1059 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: celebrate yourself as you wake up every day and you 1060 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: try to do just a little bit better. You start 1061 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 1: to do that, your relationship with your self changes. The 1062 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,920 Speaker 1: power that you're seeing can the validation that you deserve 1063 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 1: and need. It gets located back inside you. And let 1064 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 1: me tell you something I don't give you. When you're 1065 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 1: ready to start dating, when you are able to feel 1066 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 1: loved and seen and validated by yourself, you're not gonna 1067 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: let any motherfucker screw around with you because you will 1068 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: have your own back. You will be able to listen 1069 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 1: when that wisdom rises up. You are not going to 1070 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: tolerate being treated with disrespect because you are respecting yourself 1071 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 1: every morning. It begins with you. And so I am 1072 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 1: so excited for you to start doing this for real 1073 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 1: because it sounds cheesy, but I am telling you this 1074 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 1: cuts down to the deepest, most foundational thing that everybody needs. 1075 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,160 Speaker 1: And where can everybody? Is out now on Amazon? Or 1076 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 1: is it coming out? Oh it's you can get it. 1077 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 1: It's in twenty two languages. You can I don't know 1078 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 1: when this is airing, but yes, you can order it 1079 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 1: right now. You can order it in multiple format. Um. 1080 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 1: It's it's super exciting and I don't know if we 1081 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 1: have time to, but I want to teach you that 1082 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 1: this other thing of high five in your hearts. This now, 1083 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 1: you put your hands on the center of your chest. 1084 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm right there on top of each other. You're gonna 1085 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 1: take a deep breath, and then you're going to repeat 1086 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 1: these three sentences. Okay, I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm safe, 1087 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm safe, I'm loved, I'm I'm loved. Why don't you 1088 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 1: say those three again? I started crying. Go ahead, take 1089 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 1: a deep breath and do it again. I'm okay, I'm safe, 1090 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm loved. Now. The reason why I want you to 1091 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 1: do this right after you get out of bed is 1092 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 1: because after the last eighteen months, every human being on 1093 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: the planet has a stressed out, on edge nervous system. 1094 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Your sympathetic nervous system is running on overdrive. It is 1095 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: impossible to learn new behavior. It is impossible to get 1096 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 1: your prefrontal cortex to be able to focus on anything 1097 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: when your nervous system is on edge. When your nervous 1098 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 1: system is on edge, you are also very prone to 1099 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 1: being hijacked by trauma patterns because those trauma patterns are 1100 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 1: stored in your nervous system. So by saying I'm okay, 1101 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm safe, I'm loved, which is if you can hear 1102 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 1: it and you can say it, it's true in that moment, 1103 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: and by putting your hands on your heart, you're stimulating 1104 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: something called your vegas nerve. Now, your vegas nerve is 1105 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: a treasure inside of you that you need to discover. 1106 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,440 Speaker 1: It is the on off switch for your on edge, disregulated, traumatic, 1107 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 1: stressed out nervous system. When you simply put your hands 1108 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 1: on your heart, because the vegas nerve runs from the 1109 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: seat all the way through every major organ, through your 1110 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 1: vocal cords, and through your head to the top of it. 1111 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 1: When you simply put your hands here and you press 1112 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 1: against the vegas nerve and you say I'm okay, I'm safe, 1113 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm loved, you will come back into your body. You're 1114 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 1: stressed out nervous system will turn off, and you'll turn 1115 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: on your calm, cool, parasympathetic nervous system, and you will 1116 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: start your day grounded in your body. You will start 1117 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 1: your day with a nervous system that is calm, that 1118 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: is regulated, that is able to then go and receive 1119 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: the love and the encouragement and the support that you're 1120 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 1: going to feel when you raise your hand in celebration 1121 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 1: to the woman that you see in the mirror, who 1122 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 1: is showing up for yet another day on the marathon 1123 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: of this life, knowing that no matter what happens today, 1124 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 1: she can handle it. She can have her own back, 1125 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 1: and she's going to take this moment in her life 1126 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 1: and she's going to use it because she knows it 1127 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 1: is preparing her for something extraordinary that's coming. I mean, 1128 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go to bed because i want to 1129 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 1: wake up high five the shout of myself in the morning. 1130 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 1: So if my hands are in my heart, I cannot 1131 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 1: thank you enough for these tools. This I mean not. 1132 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to just listen to the last five minutes 1133 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 1: to that you just I mean just just thank you 1134 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 1: for for your light, for your light, for your your motivation, 1135 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,919 Speaker 1: for your tools, for your heart. It means so much. 1136 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 1: So thank you, seriously. You're welcome. You're welcome, and you 1137 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,520 Speaker 1: know I want you to know. I want to invite 1138 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 1: you to do something with us. So we're doing this 1139 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 1: free high five Challenge. It's five days where I'm going 1140 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 1: to give you the tools, the coaching, the community that 1141 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,280 Speaker 1: you need to practice this stuff. Just go to high 1142 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 1: five Challenge dot com. Great, it's free. I got you, 1143 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 1: I want you in there for you and I believe 1144 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 1: in you. I thank you so much. I appreciate it. Okay, 1145 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 1: we'll talk soon. Thanks changing absolutely. Yes, I love you, baby, 1146 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 1: Hi five, I love her. I'm gonna high five you. 1147 01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,040 Speaker 1: I love how we went in too, like childhood traumas 1148 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: to Yeah, that was good. I'm going to re listen 1149 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 1: to this episode was steep. It was good. It was 1150 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 1: very deep and good. And now I'm gonna go to 1151 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,920 Speaker 1: bed and high five myself in the morning. Let's I'll 1152 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: try it though. I'm gonna try. Yeah, I'm just afraid 1153 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna like break my mirror because I'm gonna 1154 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 1: be like overly excited about it, like I'm gonna be 1155 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 1: like by you, and then it just like breaks. I'll 1156 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 1: figure it out, alright, guys, go high five Okay. Bye,