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Speaker 1: Welcome back, sir, good to be whoa gosh, good to
Speaker 1: be here, to be good to be back, good to
Speaker 1: be back. We've got Isaiah stand Back, heck My Harrison,
Speaker 1: Chris Beam as always, I'm Kyle Yemen's Rob What was
Speaker 1: it like getting back for you yesterday? Was it a
Speaker 1: just a hassle or was it what happened there? Oh
Speaker 1: we missed our flight Sunday night? Why was that? Just
Speaker 1: keep it simple. We were trying to catch a flight
Speaker 1: out of Baltimore after the game, okay, and we almost
Speaker 1: made it. But you know, that game lasted a little
Speaker 1: longer than we'd hoped. You know, I was hoping they
Speaker 1: could just run the clock out handed to Zeke like
Speaker 1: forty times and get out of there. Didn't happen. Got
Speaker 1: a new flight. Props to the our travel staff, Tiff,
Speaker 1: and he did a great job. Awesome. Yeah, yeah, she's fantastic.
Speaker 1: But it was funny because we were talking about that
Speaker 1: in studios, like, man, this game is taken forever. Even then,
Speaker 1: even before the fourth quarter, you were talking about there
Speaker 1: were twelve minutes left in this game. This is nuts.
Speaker 1: Why is it? Why is this taking so long? And
Speaker 1: then he got into the final parts of the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter where there was an actual comeback and there was
Speaker 1: actually a game. It was dragged one. So no rough riders, No,
Speaker 1: we got fights breaking out. You know, things happen, you know, rivalries. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a clean three hour game. That's okay, not
Speaker 1: at all. We're gonna talk about it today. It was
Speaker 1: no drag on best bars right there. I was like,
Speaker 1: come on, okay, heck, I just gave him in the
Speaker 1: stak face in a good way, in a good way.
Speaker 1: But everybody doing all right today? Peachy bro peachy. We
Speaker 1: get to talk to Cowboys Nation again. Today, always one
Speaker 1: of our favorite days. We win, we win, we won
Speaker 1: the game. How the Cowboy Nation gonna feel? That is
Speaker 1: my question? It's so up and down right now. I'm
Speaker 1: really trying to figure out do you think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be more negative or more POSI I'm waiting to see.
Speaker 1: I really am waiting to see this. I want to
Speaker 1: see after we have this news from from rat Pi. Oh,
Speaker 1: we'll get the news and notes, but I want to hear.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's gonna be positive or negative? I
Speaker 1: think it really depends. Only think it's gonna be Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean with your Twitter notification does get a little negative.
Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and jump into it. News and
Speaker 1: notes were Rob Phillips, what's going on? What did we
Speaker 1: learn yesterday? Cedric Wilson's got COVID. Unfortunately he tested positive.
Speaker 1: Um got a chance to be back this week. I
Speaker 1: guess if you test negative and all that twice in
Speaker 1: a twenty four hour period doesn't have symptoms. So we'll
Speaker 1: see there. Um and Tyrann Smith will not play against
Speaker 1: the Giants tackle So it's just plugging plugging holes on
Speaker 1: the ship man. So they did an MRI yesterday. They
Speaker 1: said everything looked good. Obviously it's the same ankle that
Speaker 1: he's been dealing with the issues on, so it's just
Speaker 1: worse than what was already bad. I'm trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what spread doesn't go away? Is that what it is?
Speaker 1: Or was it? Yeah? Which what's it? I think it's both.
Speaker 1: I think I think he had the high ankle and
Speaker 1: I think he's those spurs like you've been saying, they
Speaker 1: don't they don't go away. So Um, but it looked
Speaker 1: like he got rolled up on right, Yeah it was yeah,
Speaker 1: Now walking he looked like he was walking okay post
Speaker 1: game afterwards, So and Jerry was on the fan just
Speaker 1: now and it didn't sound like they're concerned about him,
Speaker 1: you know, moving forward into the postseason, assuming they can
Speaker 1: get there. Um, I don't know how long this is
Speaker 1: gonna last. Certainly this week he will not play, and
Speaker 1: he indicated that Terrence Steele will be your starting left
Speaker 1: tackle on Sunday. Already gave that information up about sick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who do you replace him with? And you know, it's
Speaker 1: interesting because they started with Niseki right, Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: wonder if that had to do with Hey, Terrence Steele
Speaker 1: had COVID coming off the COVID list. Let's not throw
Speaker 1: too much at him his first week back. And then uh,
Speaker 1: and then when Lyle down, they had no choice but
Speaker 1: to go with both backups. Now, I thought Lyle went
Speaker 1: down prior to he went down the game. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: left the game at one point, and Terren Steele came
Speaker 1: in at right tackle. He did yes early in the game,
Speaker 1: and then at left tackle when Tyrn went down, it
Speaker 1: was automatically seventy nine and seventy eight was on the
Speaker 1: other side. So Tyrn happened after Lyle's ejection. Chris Beam
Speaker 1: fact check it. We're gonna have to go back and
Speaker 1: look at it either way either way. I mean, I
Speaker 1: want to say, before the ejection, there was a time
Speaker 1: where seventy nine was at the left tackle and ty
Speaker 1: and Secky and then you had Terren Steele at the
Speaker 1: right tackle, but I have to go I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to go back and look at it. I didn't chart
Speaker 1: it or okay, so well, that would have been interesting
Speaker 1: obviously if if Tyren Smith goes down and instead of
Speaker 1: coming off with steel, they come up with in ski
Speaker 1: and then you know, in the other orders. So I
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess that that does bring an interesting wrinkle.
Speaker 1: But he could come up if there is some discipline
Speaker 1: handed down by the NFL. Now, I don't think the NFL,
Speaker 1: or excuse me, the Cowboys believe the NFL is going
Speaker 1: to bring down any sort of discipline on Lyle Collins, right,
Speaker 1: they don't anticipate it, or maybe it's just up in
Speaker 1: the air. According to NFL Network, he will not be suspended. Okay,
Speaker 1: now I want to say. NFL Network reported Tristan Hill
Speaker 1: wouldn't be suspended either for the Raiders punch, and he was.
Speaker 1: But oh, I mean this, I think this is a
Speaker 1: little different. I don't know. I didn't I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: only caught like ten minutes of the show driving home. Yes, okay, um,
Speaker 1: but I don't know how much I'll touched him. But
Speaker 1: this was different. This is in the field of play,
Speaker 1: things get heated. I think the thing that got Tristan
Speaker 1: Hill was he waited for Simpson after the game midfield
Speaker 1: bike racks, bro, Yeah, like three o'clock bike racks, And
Speaker 1: that's what got him suspended. He was about that life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was outside of the field of play. No
Speaker 1: whistles were being blown. There's not supposed to be any physicality,
Speaker 1: whereas the heat of the moment really kind of was
Speaker 1: what was Lyle? You respect more both, do you Tristan
Speaker 1: or Lyle? Lyle? For sure? But based off of what
Speaker 1: happened didn't happen last year? Yeah? Yeah, I'm why what
Speaker 1: do you think you think Tristan Hill was warrant Tristan
Speaker 1: about that life. Obviously appreciate the fire, but I don't
Speaker 1: know if I appreciate the waiting for him at the logo,
Speaker 1: I'm stranger things have happened. I love that Isaiah feels
Speaker 1: that way because he told us last week I don't
Speaker 1: let things go easy, you know, so like Tristan didn't
Speaker 1: let it go easy. Tristan was like, you got to
Speaker 1: see me about this, right, You're gonna have to answer
Speaker 1: for what you have said. Okay, uh, it's kind of
Speaker 1: speaking on the same topic of offensive line. We've talked
Speaker 1: about the left tackle and we at least know that
Speaker 1: it is Terrence Steal this week, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that in our previews later in the week. But they're
Speaker 1: also was An alluded to a change with Steven Jones
Speaker 1: on the fan yesterday talking about how basically, and I'm
Speaker 1: paraphrasing here, but the door is open for the coaches
Speaker 1: to have a conversation to make a decision on whether
Speaker 1: or not Connor McGovern or, Connor Williams is the best
Speaker 1: player to play and start and play the majority of
Speaker 1: the snaps at left guard. So I want to open
Speaker 1: that same conversation up here if Talking Cowboys was the
Speaker 1: coaching staff and we're sitting around a room and we've
Speaker 1: got the projectors up on the screen and we're pointing
Speaker 1: at the film based off of what all of us
Speaker 1: have seen to this point, who would you want as
Speaker 1: the starter at left guard, Connor McGovern or, Connor Williams.
Speaker 1: And I think we talked about it so much just
Speaker 1: seeing Connor Williams get abused, I mean it just losing
Speaker 1: battles that we thought that McGovern would be better for
Speaker 1: the left guard position, and honestly, we hadn't seen anything different.
Speaker 1: I've seen McGovern being situations where he's getting owned as well.
Speaker 1: So at this point it's like, you know, open competition.
Speaker 1: I mean, thorow stick in the room. Whichever guy comes
Speaker 1: out is the winner. So it's just really at this
Speaker 1: point trying to figure out where the balance is because
Speaker 1: I think defensive defenses has figured out where the weakness
Speaker 1: is in our offensive line. And you saw to run
Speaker 1: pain you go back and watch that watching Footman d run.
Speaker 1: Payne was just giving McGovern and be honest, the business
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. And Jonathan Allen obviously didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't play the majority of staffs that he would have,
Speaker 1: but even Jonathan Allen was was all of the pressure
Speaker 1: that we were encountering was coming from the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. So it's it's definitely something to look at.
Speaker 1: Neville Gallim, Yeah you want to. I mean we saw
Speaker 1: the physicality from him that some strange I'm with heck
Speaker 1: with Parsons and running back and completely serious on that,
Speaker 1: like I want Parsons, want that to happen. The mail
Speaker 1: bag this morning on the website, I guess let's go.
Speaker 1: That was a question from a fan. Nice. Uh No,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm with you. Heck, it doesn't matter at
Speaker 1: this point. I mean, I think you gave the other
Speaker 1: guy a chance, McGovern, and you know he didn't show
Speaker 1: that he was much better. So you know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter which Connor bro you go with at this point
Speaker 1: in time. I think that they're still going to be
Speaker 1: the weak link on this offensive line. And as a
Speaker 1: even as a coordinator, um, you are excited about that
Speaker 1: because you can pinpoint where they're weekend and if you
Speaker 1: can find a weak link, then you can find a scene.
Speaker 1: So let me just throw it this way to you
Speaker 1: real quickly, since you are going to ride a fence
Speaker 1: like that. Connor Williams in terms of holding penalties way
Speaker 1: more than Connor McGovern. The holding penalties are down since
Speaker 1: McGovern took over. However, Connor McGovern has given up seven
Speaker 1: pressures over the last two games. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: tell you how many sacks he's given up, but seven
Speaker 1: pressures against the Washington football team and against New Orleans wins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which one would you rather go with? You could? You
Speaker 1: can make him stop holding. You can teach Williams to
Speaker 1: not hold. You can find him for every hold he has.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a whole lot of ways you can
Speaker 1: stop somebody from from creating penalties. There's that coaches have
Speaker 1: a lot of power inside this inside of this building,
Speaker 1: so and you can start, you can start handing down
Speaker 1: fines for every time you have a holding penalty. He'll
Speaker 1: stop real quick, in a hurry. Have you been pressures
Speaker 1: that's done that. I've been on a team that's find
Speaker 1: you for being late to meetings for yeah, for executing assignments.
Speaker 1: Absolutely that the New England area you never know. I mean,
Speaker 1: but I mean you can't stop somebody from getting beat, right,
Speaker 1: And I guess you could say that holding is a
Speaker 1: is a product of getting beat as well. That's why
Speaker 1: I say it doesn't really matter which connor Bro you
Speaker 1: go with, So it's really a toss up. I mean,
Speaker 1: the teams are gonna highlight that part of the connor Bro.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter which one, be honest, the least veteran player
Speaker 1: on this office a line. I'm going right at those
Speaker 1: two individuals. I would make the switch. And it's not
Speaker 1: the problems they're having or not just Connor McGovern let
Speaker 1: me just say that I think he's a good young player.
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of talent. They've told us that
Speaker 1: he's probably at this point his career more comfortable with
Speaker 1: right guard than he is left guard. And they decided
Speaker 1: to make that switch because they were, look, they were
Speaker 1: so concerned about these penalties and they felt like, I
Speaker 1: think they felt like the refs are looking for it
Speaker 1: because of what has been on tape, and I think
Speaker 1: maybe they sacrificed overall production at that position to do that.
Speaker 1: You know, I think at this point Connor Williams is
Speaker 1: a more experienced, better left guard, and over the entire
Speaker 1: course of the snaps, I don't think he's been that
Speaker 1: bad of a blocker this year, and I think the
Speaker 1: running game probably is better in terms of his agility
Speaker 1: and mobility to pull and get things going on the
Speaker 1: outside and get some of those edge runs going. I
Speaker 1: would look at making that switch. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they will. When you say a better block, are you
Speaker 1: saying Williams? Are McGovern you say Connor? Oh? Sorry, I
Speaker 1: think Williams is a better I think I think he's
Speaker 1: more he's more equipped to do it right now personally,
Speaker 1: But but the penalties were why he got sat down
Speaker 1: and that will have to be cleaned up if he's
Speaker 1: back in the lineup. In the nine games that Connor
Speaker 1: Williams started, he gave up a total of ten pressures.
Speaker 1: We just mentioned seven over the last two. For Connor
Speaker 1: McGovern he's given up twelve over the four games he's started.
Speaker 1: So it's a significant number of pressures more so on
Speaker 1: a bigger basis with McGovern however, penalties. McGovern vern has
Speaker 1: only allowed two penalties, been called for two penalties and
Speaker 1: Connor Williams at thirteen all year long. Now he was
Speaker 1: on the historic pace. Yeah, well as far as his
Speaker 1: penalties were concerned. But you know, you see if you
Speaker 1: go back just to the Kansas City game, the amount
Speaker 1: of pressure that Dak is getting right up in his face.
Speaker 1: This gave me. He was sacked four times, pressure ten.
Speaker 1: It's a lot going on. It's a and we talk
Speaker 1: about what's what's wrong with Dak. You know what's what's
Speaker 1: happening with Dak? Dad can't find any rhythm. It really
Speaker 1: hard to find that rhythm a lot of times, man,
Speaker 1: when you got guys following around you in your face,
Speaker 1: grabbing on you, and so you go back to the
Speaker 1: Washington game, he was not in the clean pocket a
Speaker 1: lot of times. You're right. When I watched it back,
Speaker 1: I thought the protection is a little better. I don't
Speaker 1: know about that. I thought there were times where he
Speaker 1: had a clean pocket or clean inch pocket and he misthrows.
Speaker 1: But I don't you know, overall it wasn't clean has
Speaker 1: But usually with Dak Prescott, you're able to navigate through
Speaker 1: the muck. You're able to navigate through a not so
Speaker 1: clean pocket. But how much does that limit him and
Speaker 1: what he's able to do as a quarterback. It's just
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. You've seen quarterbacks coming to
Speaker 1: the league that become punch drunk. They get hit too
Speaker 1: many times, and when they get hit too many times
Speaker 1: something exactly, And so are you when you look at
Speaker 1: Dak are you thinking just from this six game sample
Speaker 1: side we were talking about from the beginning whereas QBR
Speaker 1: was this and now with this period, this period where
Speaker 1: we're seeing that we're seeing him decline, are you thinking
Speaker 1: that the pressure has anything to do with Are you
Speaker 1: fully saying mechanics and he's just off? I think think
Speaker 1: he's off. Okay, Yeah, I just think he's off. I
Speaker 1: don't you start talking about quarterbacks being under pressure. There's
Speaker 1: a whole lot of quarterbacks that don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of great protection upfront. Um, you know, things going to
Speaker 1: even go back to my guy in Seattle. He just
Speaker 1: hasn't had a lot of help on alphas a line either.
Speaker 1: But he still has to stand in there and throw
Speaker 1: the ball or buy time, get outside the pocket, use
Speaker 1: your skill set to create create some time. Um. I
Speaker 1: just think that Dak's just been off, and I mean
Speaker 1: that's just three out. That's it. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's it. That's I mean, it could rather that
Speaker 1: be the answer than the punch drunk side of ye.
Speaker 1: I mean, because I mean, is as much as we
Speaker 1: want Dad to be playing the amazingly well and all that,
Speaker 1: how how how do you think Heinek played? Oh he
Speaker 1: was awful, he was trash? Yeah right. Heinek had three
Speaker 1: less LEBR. His TBR rating was three points less than decks.
Speaker 1: He had a zero passer rating until the second half.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's bad. But I'm saying so as
Speaker 1: bad as we think Heinek played, he literally was right
Speaker 1: there neck and neck with Deck. When we start looking
Speaker 1: at statistics right in that regard. So that's how we
Speaker 1: have to You make me sick. Bro, you are the
Speaker 1: one guy that takes statistics off the table. You know,
Speaker 1: I know you guys, I know you, I know you guys.
Speaker 1: Value you just how you go Rompy in my line,
Speaker 1: I thought that it was look at the stats. I
Speaker 1: was like, it was, I know you guys, related stats.
Speaker 1: The touchdown saved him because because I mean the conversation
Speaker 1: we were having. He got beat the hell in that
Speaker 1: game too. They both did. They both got beat up
Speaker 1: in that game. My thing is is that I think
Speaker 1: what yesterday was, what was hard for me is all
Speaker 1: of the DAK hate. Um, it was hard for me
Speaker 1: to kind of understand where it's coming from. One of
Speaker 1: the things that I would never confuse. I would never
Speaker 1: confuse DAK with Aaron Rodgers. You know, different conversation, different quarterback.
Speaker 1: I just think everything about Aaron Rodgers is that, But
Speaker 1: I think there are some other When you talk about
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, that's the guy that I take. It's comparable
Speaker 1: and where I see him going as far as you know,
Speaker 1: the team that he played with, the kind of pressure
Speaker 1: that he was under and now having the defense that
Speaker 1: we think that he has right now backing him up
Speaker 1: and so dan quating this situation and just and not
Speaker 1: having an overglorified bus driver. But I think that Dak,
Speaker 1: in all of our experience of seeing him ball out
Speaker 1: and do these great things, it's really hard for me
Speaker 1: to receive that now all of a sudden, he we
Speaker 1: have don't. And again, Dak is a really good player.
Speaker 1: Really good players going droughts, you know, I mean you hope, yeah, slump, droughts,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. I mean, the reality
Speaker 1: is he's not playing good. It doesn't it doesn't take
Speaker 1: anything away. I'm not hating on Dad. I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there are there plenty of cowboys hates a lot
Speaker 1: of people hate men. You can't prevent that. But the
Speaker 1: reality is, over the last four to six game stretch,
Speaker 1: he hasn't played well, and we don't know the exact reason.
Speaker 1: We just see the result of whatever it is that's
Speaker 1: causing him to not play well. We see him not
Speaker 1: stepping up into those those pockets that that are present
Speaker 1: right and delivering the ball like he has in the past.
Speaker 1: We see him not throwing the ball as efficiently, as
Speaker 1: effectively as he has in the past. Everything that you
Speaker 1: can compare is always going to be it is always
Speaker 1: gonna be a relation to what we've seen him do previously.
Speaker 1: And this is not Dak ball right now. And luckily, luckily,
Speaker 1: the defense is playing lights out right now, which is
Speaker 1: giving them an opportunity to be successful holistically as a team.
Speaker 1: And what you know what makes this sorry, heck go ahead, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Well it makes this so confusing to me, is you
Speaker 1: know they talk about, well, maybe he needs more time
Speaker 1: on task with his receivers and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: He missed all training camp, like the last week, and
Speaker 1: then he bawled out and they hung twenty nine on
Speaker 1: the Bucks. So I don't think it's that, and I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think you can say he's hurt. I
Speaker 1: don't think you can say that. I haven't heard that.
Speaker 1: He's not on the injury report. The league watches out
Speaker 1: for that stuff. Anyway, there's that means there is nothing
Speaker 1: that's keeping him limited to do anything in practice now.
Speaker 1: Is he mindful of, Hey, this is a long season,
Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't take this chance run coming off that
Speaker 1: horrific injury last year and coming off the fact that
Speaker 1: he's I don't know. Now he's about six weeks removed
Speaker 1: from that Calf's train. Maybe, you know, maybe he's mindful
Speaker 1: of that. That doesn't mean he's scared. He's trying to
Speaker 1: get through this season and that maybe that's not why
Speaker 1: he's running as much. I think that might be a
Speaker 1: factor too. All of us just kind of speculation because
Speaker 1: we don't don't we don't know exactly what. He just
Speaker 1: doesn't like. You're right, he looks out of sync. It
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he's got as much confidence back there.
Speaker 1: And I just don't when people try to take the
Speaker 1: responsibility off of players, whether it's Dak or anybody else. Right,
Speaker 1: this is the highest level of competition in this sport,
Speaker 1: the highest These are the best players in the world, right,
Speaker 1: And yes, you're entitled to a bad game. You're you're
Speaker 1: entitled to not being on top of your game. You
Speaker 1: want to get out of that as fast as possible,
Speaker 1: But you have to be able to identify the fact that,
Speaker 1: Hank call a spade to spade, you're not doing well,
Speaker 1: let's figure out how to fix it. And I feel
Speaker 1: like with Dak and even some of the other players
Speaker 1: in the league of that of that status. People like
Speaker 1: to find excuses, People like to put their fears, say no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not that it's this or you know all you know,
Speaker 1: he hasn't had this protection, or he hasn't had the
Speaker 1: receivers or you know. Even mister Jones last week called
Speaker 1: him out and say, oh we always the receivers not
Speaker 1: running arount. No, that is Dak's dad, and it's okay
Speaker 1: to say, hey, dad, you need to figure it out
Speaker 1: just like we just like people get on Zeke. People
Speaker 1: got on Zeke last year with the fumbles. People are
Speaker 1: a quicker point than I. He know he's fumbling it all.
Speaker 1: Zeke's not Zeke no more like, why is it is
Speaker 1: it that you can point out Zeke that he's not
Speaker 1: on his game, But when it comes to Dak, we
Speaker 1: make excuses now, and I don't want to, and I
Speaker 1: don't think that I'm making excuse for Dak. I just
Speaker 1: think that for the sample size that we've had for
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season, we've seen this run that he's
Speaker 1: been on and the offense firing on our cylinders. We
Speaker 1: see exactly how this thing works. When he has his
Speaker 1: full compliment. Now we're noticing this musical chairs of sorts
Speaker 1: at the offensive line position, and I think that has
Speaker 1: a little bit more to do with it than we're
Speaker 1: giving credit to. That's all I'm saying. And I asked,
Speaker 1: and I say, punch drunk. And maybe that's not the
Speaker 1: wrong word. When you get in touch too much, when
Speaker 1: your timing isn't there, when you recognize it, I got
Speaker 1: to get this ball out a little bit quicker than
Speaker 1: I would have before because I don't have the time
Speaker 1: or you don't trust the timing end game. But when
Speaker 1: you but so I hear that, and I think there's
Speaker 1: there is some truth to that. When you put him
Speaker 1: in the conversation with the other quarterbacks that we consider
Speaker 1: to be great in this league, do we utilize that
Speaker 1: as an excuse or do those guys find a way?
Speaker 1: If Tom Brady is getting beat the hill, then we
Speaker 1: can't expect for him to put Aaron Rodgers. I mean,
Speaker 1: what about Patrick Mahomes and the super Patrick Mahomes. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was one game, that's fair, That's what That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like one carried over into the middle of
Speaker 1: the season this year. Those guys had a five new
Speaker 1: office lineman no, no no, no home five new offensive linement.
Speaker 1: We're talking about we're talking about we're talking about we're
Speaker 1: talking about five guys. We're talking about the most, the
Speaker 1: most the position on this field, the group on this
Speaker 1: field that needs to be the most InSync. Five guys
Speaker 1: versus we're talking about one guy. How is that different
Speaker 1: from what the Cowboys are doing one versus five? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a huge difference. One we've had we've had one
Speaker 1: guy out that We've had a tackle left guard one
Speaker 1: at a time, though right one left guard, one tackle guard.
Speaker 1: It's never been we've never had more than two officive
Speaker 1: lineman missing at one time. Yeah, it's been music that
Speaker 1: we want to make decamparison. That's when we're talking about
Speaker 1: five dudes now, And I feel you and I guess
Speaker 1: where I'm going with this. You had a whole training
Speaker 1: camp with those guys when we were talking about we're
Speaker 1: talking about Mahomes Mahomes. Your thing was, Man, he's Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: He gonna get back on track. Not not making two
Speaker 1: of this comparing dak to Patrick Mahomes, but you had
Speaker 1: faith in Patrick Mahomes based off of what you're seeing
Speaker 1: him do in the past. That he could get back
Speaker 1: on track. Do do you feel the same way about that.
Speaker 1: I don't have the evidence to show. I do believe
Speaker 1: that Dak's gonna get back on track, But I don't
Speaker 1: have this this long standing resume of Dak going into
Speaker 1: a slump and coming out of a slump. I don't have. Really,
Speaker 1: it's the first time we've seen that. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: have a question mark around and and I, but I
Speaker 1: still believe that Dak is just in a slump. All
Speaker 1: quarterbacks get there, all quarterbacks have him. It's just like golfers.
Speaker 1: You're going to slump baseball players, right, I love baseball,
Speaker 1: You're going to a slump. As a hitter, It's like,
Speaker 1: oh man, he's he's tripping right now for this for
Speaker 1: this three weeks. But when he see gets that one
Speaker 1: hit bohm, he's out of it. There's nothing, you know,
Speaker 1: to Rob's point, there's nothing that's pointing to evidence, evidence
Speaker 1: wise it saying Dak's injured or Dak is unable to
Speaker 1: do something. He's just not playing well. When you were
Speaker 1: you ever in that position at Washington, and if you were,
Speaker 1: what what was your approach to getting out of a slump?
Speaker 1: If that's what we wanted to studying my butt off,
Speaker 1: studying my butt off to be able to identify it.
Speaker 1: I met with a quarterback last night, figure out what
Speaker 1: you're doing wrong? What are you doing wrong? Is it
Speaker 1: my drop? Am I getting lazy with my feet? Right?
Speaker 1: It was? What's my what's my What are my feet
Speaker 1: look like when I'm when I'm delivering the ball? Isn't
Speaker 1: my elbow? Is my release point? Right? Am I shifting
Speaker 1: my weight like there's so many intricate portion instead of
Speaker 1: being a quarterback and delivering the ball with accuracy, Even
Speaker 1: when you have a completion, you should still be you
Speaker 1: should still be picking apart your your film. Am I
Speaker 1: putting it on the right shoulder? Am I putting it low?
Speaker 1: Watching that um had a great ball last night, Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford through a great ball to Cooper Cup lowing away? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean that was perfect. That's that's how you go
Speaker 1: back and watch. That's the ball that you got to
Speaker 1: have down there in the red down there on the
Speaker 1: goal line. You have to put it right there if
Speaker 1: you would put it anywhere else. As incompletion, So that's
Speaker 1: even on your complete you need to be going back
Speaker 1: and figuring out how can I be better? And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that Dak's not. We don't know what the
Speaker 1: heck they're doing on the other side of the building,
Speaker 1: but I do know that as a competitor, he is
Speaker 1: probably picking apart his film right now trying to figure
Speaker 1: out where is the missing link because he knows he's
Speaker 1: not where he wants to be and where this team
Speaker 1: needs him to be. I don't doubt that either, because yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody works harder than that. I don't doubt it. And
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why I think Cowboys Nation,
Speaker 1: much like how Heckmo was alluding to earlier, you can't
Speaker 1: give up on Dak right now. You know he's going
Speaker 1: to get back to some point playing the football, playing
Speaker 1: that Dak ball that Isaiah was talking about earlier as well.
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Speaker 1: about some more cowboys. How does Cowboys Nation feel right now? Positive? Negative?
Speaker 1: Bob from Nashville is the first one up, Bob. How's
Speaker 1: it going you're on talking cowboys? Good morning, gentlemen. Hey,
Speaker 1: So you know love Dak. You know, as Isaiah said,
Speaker 1: you go through these little times where you're up and down.
Speaker 1: But a couple of things. My observation after watching some
Speaker 1: of the rewatching a bunch of the games, I think
Speaker 1: some teams are pre snapper in one coverage and then
Speaker 1: just as the ball snap, they're changing coverages, which I
Speaker 1: think is maybe confusing Dak. They're also playing two safeties back,
Speaker 1: which taking away any aggressive throws, which requires Dak to
Speaker 1: maybe throw the ball short. And I think the other
Speaker 1: thing is Kellen Morneys. They maybe call some plays where
Speaker 1: we get some receivers doing some crossing routes, get him
Speaker 1: to our playmakers and let them make some plays that
Speaker 1: will take some of the pressure off a Dack and
Speaker 1: allow him to maybe get back into a rhythm. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to see what your guys thoughts were on
Speaker 1: those two things. Thanks, I have a great day. Thanks, Bob,
Speaker 1: appreciate the call. Yeah, great points, Bob, and I'm kind
Speaker 1: of go down the line in terms of what I want.
Speaker 1: I heard you say. In terms of the two high
Speaker 1: state these his ability to throw the ball quickly as
Speaker 1: of two weeks ago, Dak, I don't know where he
Speaker 1: stands today. Dac was in the think top three in
Speaker 1: the league in terms of completion procedage and short short
Speaker 1: short yardist. You know he passes, so that shouldn't be
Speaker 1: an issue. UM. In terms of what was the other part,
Speaker 1: in terms of being able to get the ball in
Speaker 1: the hands of his playmakers, I do agree that the
Speaker 1: killer Morty's to find a way to run more screens.
Speaker 1: I think he needs to go dive into the playbook
Speaker 1: of the enemy and figure out exactly how he's getting
Speaker 1: his guys the ball in their hands within five yards.
Speaker 1: They do a great job of running a screen so
Speaker 1: many different ways, UM, getting CD the ball, get cooped
Speaker 1: the ball, to get these guys the ball in their hands,
Speaker 1: and that will allow him to build his confidence. UM,
Speaker 1: but you know, you know, to your point, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's in, he's in, He's in a slump. But they
Speaker 1: it's up until a lot of people. He has to
Speaker 1: do a deep dive. Killer Moore has to figure out too, right,
Speaker 1: and they have to be on one accord in terms of, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is where you're at right now, and this is
Speaker 1: how we're gonna help try to get you out this whole.
Speaker 1: What do defenses do to slow down screens? What's the
Speaker 1: best way to slow down a screen from a defensive
Speaker 1: tack it? You gotta attack. It's being aggressive, right, You're
Speaker 1: putting pressure up front, you making him get the ball
Speaker 1: out of his hands. That's exactly what these teams that
Speaker 1: have that Dak Prescott hasn't played well against the dune, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think he makes a valid point talking about
Speaker 1: the cover too. And that's the thing that a lot
Speaker 1: of teams would not do versus Dubts because they fear
Speaker 1: the running game so much, right, And so now the
Speaker 1: teams are kind of like, oh, we don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about Zeke, you know, and they're daring Dak to
Speaker 1: kind of beat them over the top. That's what Jack
Speaker 1: del Riel did in this game. Something I'm not what
Speaker 1: you're gonna what you're not gonna do is beat us deep.
Speaker 1: What we're gonna force you to do is try and
Speaker 1: find out everything in the middle of the field. Couldn't
Speaker 1: get that done, you know. And so Dalton shows, I think,
Speaker 1: is really somebody that we got to put it. You know,
Speaker 1: where is Dalton because they haven't seen him. Are you
Speaker 1: saying that they're going too high safety because they're because
Speaker 1: on excuse me, they're going too high safety, not only
Speaker 1: because they don't respect our running game, but also you're
Speaker 1: saying that they're daring Zeke to be more accurate with
Speaker 1: the ball. They don't think that he's as accurate as
Speaker 1: he once was. The yack. Yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 1: they're not. They're saying that we're not going to let
Speaker 1: you get those big plays. We're gonna take the big
Speaker 1: play away. But by saying that, right, you're saying I'm
Speaker 1: taking away a big play and I'm taking away your
Speaker 1: And you said I'm not respecting your run. I'm saying
Speaker 1: that I don't trust that you can pick me apart.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean, That's what you're saying. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm not interpreting that that way. If that is that's
Speaker 1: just that's what. No, No, that's disrespectful. And if if
Speaker 1: that's the case, then Dak has to find And maybe
Speaker 1: that's why he's pressing because he's like, I can't believe
Speaker 1: you you have the audacity to have two says never
Speaker 1: experienced it and leaving the middle of the field wide open,
Speaker 1: and that's where he got caught in the pick six.
Speaker 1: This is the first time in his career and you
Speaker 1: can probably back this up rub that he hasn't had
Speaker 1: an efficient running game. Um, there's yeah, I mean probably
Speaker 1: to this extent. You know, I think when they've think
Speaker 1: last year when Zeke was banged up and they didn't
Speaker 1: have Zach Martin for a stretch, it was it was
Speaker 1: tough in there. But the decline they've had there is
Speaker 1: is wow. And you guys are right, like the shell
Speaker 1: covers that they played is a little bit different than
Speaker 1: I think what we've seen recently because when they were
Speaker 1: teams were doing that early in the season, they were
Speaker 1: running them over in the run game. And I was
Speaker 1: telling you guys in the break, I know it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of a staff, it's flimsy, but there was a
Speaker 1: four game stretch starting with the Chargers game, where they
Speaker 1: were dominant in the run game one hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: plus yards per game. Dak's passer rating in that stretch
Speaker 1: was like one twenty average, one forty three against Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: one thirty against I actually started with the Charger game. Okay,
Speaker 1: so even going back at it's like eighty nine, eighty eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah for passer rating, gets sixteen against the Giants, but
Speaker 1: you get it, yeah, because the New England game, they
Speaker 1: had one hundred and twenty yards, but they didn't run
Speaker 1: it that well. They didn't run it that well. So
Speaker 1: those those four games starting with the Chargers, he was very,
Speaker 1: very efficient. The other games this season nine games, it's
Speaker 1: like a seventy nine passer rating. He needs that balance.
Speaker 1: I think every quarterback does. And again it Yeah, it
Speaker 1: might sound like excuses, but I think that's what Jerry's
Speaker 1: talking about on the fan to day, and Hex kind
Speaker 1: of looting it to it too. It's a I think
Speaker 1: Jerry said, it's a multifaceted reason why it's got to work.
Speaker 1: And I know Dak's making forty million a year, but
Speaker 1: they've got to show up some other things. And on
Speaker 1: offense to help him out as well. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 1: got to play better too, and he's admitted that there.
Speaker 1: It is obvious watching he's not playing as well as
Speaker 1: he kibbles. That's what I love about him, though I do.
Speaker 1: I respect the crap out of him for a standing
Speaker 1: up and not making excuses. Everybody else is making excuses
Speaker 1: for Deck Dack's not making excuses for dead. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: saying he's got to be better. Ye. Love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great call from Bob. And by the way, Chris pointed
Speaker 1: it out in my ears. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: was in y'all's ears either, but Bob sounds strikingly similar
Speaker 1: to Doug nust Meyer. Just go back and listen to
Speaker 1: it if you get a chance, just like the raspy voice.
Speaker 1: I love it, Bob from Nashville. Great job, all right. Now,
Speaker 1: let's see if we can follow it up with a
Speaker 1: little bit of the Land of Enchantment landing from New Mexico.
Speaker 1: You're on Talking Cowboys. Hey, guys, what's it going so good?
Speaker 1: I've been listening to Talking Cowboys in the two thousand
Speaker 1: and six, way back in the day, so I love
Speaker 1: the show. Love all the shows on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Um,
Speaker 1: real quick though, a couple of points about the Dak situation. Um,
Speaker 1: from what I see, it looks like he's overthinking things.
Speaker 1: And I think it's you know, a while ago, Rob
Speaker 1: said something about, I mean this is all speculation, right,
Speaker 1: and then um and Isaiah said that, uh, that it
Speaker 1: could be confidence. Um. I think I think it's a
Speaker 1: confidence thing because of the offensive line. I think that
Speaker 1: that because we had the musical chairs with the offensive line. Um,
Speaker 1: it's gotten into his head a little bit. And and
Speaker 1: we've heard Dak's stay in his pest conferences. You know,
Speaker 1: he's he's thinking. He thinks about when to run and
Speaker 1: when not to run. It looks like he's doing that
Speaker 1: not just when the run and when not to run,
Speaker 1: but when to throw the ball and when not to
Speaker 1: throw the ball. Um. I mean Aaron Rodgers and those guys,
Speaker 1: they know where to go with the ball before or
Speaker 1: the ball or before the ball is snapped. So then guys,
Speaker 1: that's why they're able to handle. The offensive line isn't
Speaker 1: doing good. But I think since Dak has the confidence
Speaker 1: been going on too, because he had so much shaky
Speaker 1: offensive line play. Now he's he's classed in a little
Speaker 1: bit and he's overthinking things. I mean that that that
Speaker 1: interception that he threw on the Dalton Sultz pass. I
Speaker 1: mean Dalton Schultz is open and he at first and
Speaker 1: then he pump picked instead of throwing the ball. If
Speaker 1: he would have threw the ball then and it would
Speaker 1: have been completed. So that's what That's what I think
Speaker 1: about the Dack situation. And the running game is a
Speaker 1: big doctors. I mean, we need to get this running
Speaker 1: running game fixed, and I don't know how we're going
Speaker 1: to do it because the offensive line is in shambles
Speaker 1: and the running back to her and I don't know
Speaker 1: what we're going to do about the other. Oh, thank
Speaker 1: you very much, Landing for the call, and thank you
Speaker 1: for your support of all the shows here on Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com. But what do you think about that?
Speaker 1: Heck moll, Could it be in Dak's head or is
Speaker 1: it just as simple as what he said toward the
Speaker 1: end is it's just this offense is one dimensional at
Speaker 1: the moment. And I look, I partially agree with with
Speaker 1: some of that. I just feel as though some defenses
Speaker 1: made adjustments. They know what you know, if you get
Speaker 1: enough tape on a guy. It's like when the guy
Speaker 1: comes in his first year, you have no idea what
Speaker 1: and who he is as a quarterback. Second year, everybody
Speaker 1: knows that the throws that he's comfortable with. And I
Speaker 1: think defenses have done the same thing to Dak this season.
Speaker 1: They know exactly where Kelly Moore is trying to set
Speaker 1: him up to be successful early in games. And I
Speaker 1: just go back to one drive in that Washington game
Speaker 1: where I believe it started with Dak tripping over the
Speaker 1: feet of the center and trying to hand the ball
Speaker 1: off to Ezekiel Elliott. It was a hole that was massive.
Speaker 1: They missed on that, But then he comes right back
Speaker 1: and he throws and it was an interception. It just
Speaker 1: seems like the rhythm of the offense, if that has
Speaker 1: anything to do with it, just I just felt like
Speaker 1: that was the one time that I watched the offense
Speaker 1: where I was like, these guys are just out of
Speaker 1: rhythm with one another. Yeah, and who knows if it's confidence.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's about its confident guy you'll ever meet.
Speaker 1: He's just not in sync. And that's what's showing on
Speaker 1: the field. They're just not in sync. But to his point,
Speaker 1: and I agree with Hack to his point. That last
Speaker 1: throw he did, he had Scholtz open and he was
Speaker 1: a tick late. So what's what's he's seeing, what's he processing?
Speaker 1: Because I think that's been his biggest jump as a
Speaker 1: quarterback has been his ability to just balls out. He
Speaker 1: knows what he's where. He wants to get to the
Speaker 1: ball with the ball. But if they could run the
Speaker 1: ball better, they wouldn't have had to make that play
Speaker 1: and they would have been able to ice the game.
Speaker 1: That's that's been their calling card and they have not
Speaker 1: been able to get back to it. And he's right,
Speaker 1: we'll see if Tony Potter can get back in the
Speaker 1: lineup this week. Zeke's banged up, he's fighting through it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: offensive line, maybe they make a change somewhere at left guard.
Speaker 1: They got to get something going in the run game.
Speaker 1: Got to the reality is when you're not playing to
Speaker 1: the level that you expect yourself to play, that you
Speaker 1: know that you're cable of playing, and things have gone wrong. Right,
Speaker 1: he's had what five interceptions in the last four games
Speaker 1: or whatever the No. Six sorry or my math? Right?
Speaker 1: Five five in the last four games. You start questioning,
Speaker 1: you question you have a question mark over too over
Speaker 1: your head, and you start second guessing and hesitating on
Speaker 1: decisions that you would have instinctively made. That's the reality
Speaker 1: when you're not confident in your play. Now. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that you're not confident in terms of your capabilities,
Speaker 1: but capabilities and you're actual what actually shows up on
Speaker 1: the field that day's two separate things. So being that
Speaker 1: Dak has tried, I'm sure he's trying his best fifty
Speaker 1: eight rating seventy nine one or six fifty seven, that's
Speaker 1: the last four, I'm sure he's questioning some things that
Speaker 1: he's doing, like what he's trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: And when you're trying to figure it out, you're going
Speaker 1: to try to make sure that you were exact. You're
Speaker 1: gonna try to make sure that you were as precise
Speaker 1: as possible to make sure that you're not making those
Speaker 1: mistakes that you have made previously. So I think that's
Speaker 1: probably where he's at right now. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a lack of confidence. I just think that he's trying
Speaker 1: to be so exact to make sure that he doesn't
Speaker 1: make mistakes that you actually end up making mistakes when
Speaker 1: you do that, stat man. Stat Man, Yeah, that's when
Speaker 1: I grow up. You know what I'm saying. Four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: five interceptions over the last four games. That's not Dak ball.
Speaker 1: That's not that ball. All right, Lance from Wyoming, Lance,
Speaker 1: you're on talking Cowboys. What's up my man? Gentlemen, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: how your dog? How you guys doing great? Look, I
Speaker 1: listen to all the shows that comes on daily. I
Speaker 1: want you guys to stop making excuses for Dak. That's
Speaker 1: that's the problem. I'm sorry. I mean, when he demands
Speaker 1: forty million dollars a year to be the quarterback for
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, we as fans expect him to perform
Speaker 1: regardless what the problem is. You guys are using the
Speaker 1: excuse that our offensive line is the problem. When he
Speaker 1: was healthy, we had offensive mind problems, but he found
Speaker 1: a way of getting around it and throwing the ball
Speaker 1: very I won't say accric because he's never been an
Speaker 1: a throwing quarterback, But you guys need to stop, including
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and the staff, y'all need to stop making
Speaker 1: excuses for da. There's something wrong with that. There's something
Speaker 1: mentally wrong with that. It ain't his it ain't the
Speaker 1: physical thing. There's something wrong in his head. You don't
Speaker 1: stand there and see a lineman come up on you.
Speaker 1: I mean a linebacker come up on you. Get in
Speaker 1: line to the throw that you get throw, throw it
Speaker 1: in the way and get it in something. Please, guys,
Speaker 1: stop making excuses for that. That gets forty million dollars.
Speaker 1: I don't give a thing if he got a running
Speaker 1: he needs, he needs to get his mindset and the
Speaker 1: and the coaching staff needs to stop doing what they're doing.
Speaker 1: They need to be the coaches. They need to take
Speaker 1: the Zeke out the game, period because Zeke is killing
Speaker 1: us too. But don't blame the offensive line because it's
Speaker 1: all that reason why we're saying that as a nation, sir,
Speaker 1: the reason why we're saying that as a nation, we're
Speaker 1: playing that man forty million dollars. I don't care if
Speaker 1: he got to run into a wall and do it
Speaker 1: again for forty million dollars. Lance, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for the call. Appreciate you as always and all your support.
Speaker 1: And if there's anything that we stand for on this show,
Speaker 1: it is saying it with your chest and he absolutely
Speaker 1: did it. It was a chestysty call. Are we related? Guys,
Speaker 1: stop making excuses. I like it. I did too. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean I I don't agree one hundred
Speaker 1: percent with everything, but I mean I'm probably about it
Speaker 1: any percentI with you right there. I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: one two and I've been. My wife calls me unempathetic
Speaker 1: on a lot of things. But one thing I do
Speaker 1: is I look, I do a deep dive by myself.
Speaker 1: If I suck at something, probably I don't have a
Speaker 1: good showing. Right. We've done how many shows have we
Speaker 1: done together, Kyle? We've done film room, Kyle tells me
Speaker 1: film rooms, other sets that we're on. Hey, you know
Speaker 1: you can do this a little better. Thank you, Thanks
Speaker 1: for telling me. Thanks for telling me. Because I need
Speaker 1: to be better. I want to be the best that
Speaker 1: I can be. I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: watch it. I'm gonna pick it apart. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: coaching and I'm gonna figure out how I could come
Speaker 1: back and re address that problem so that we can
Speaker 1: be better. I could be better individually, which helps us
Speaker 1: all be better collectively as as a team. I don't
Speaker 1: not wanting to make excuses. I am not so again.
Speaker 1: I do agree some of the decision. It's not even
Speaker 1: just a delivery, it's some of the decisions, you know,
Speaker 1: some of the decisions. And it's not just Dak. I
Speaker 1: know we're picking on Dak because he's the he's the
Speaker 1: QB one, but there's a lot of pressure that comes
Speaker 1: with that, and there's a big talking about But there
Speaker 1: there are a lot to his point, there are guys
Speaker 1: who just say, there's roster bubble guys if they make
Speaker 1: one mistake, If they make one mistake, you're out of here.
Speaker 1: You're out of here. There is no excuses made for you, right,
Speaker 1: You don't get an excuse because guess what, you don't
Speaker 1: get that leverage. You don't have that, you don't have
Speaker 1: that financial leverage to make a mistake. But as soon
Speaker 1: as guys get big boy paychecks, right, Dak or anybody
Speaker 1: else in this league, there's grace given. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of grace given instead of getting on them the same way,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of grace given with I e excuses
Speaker 1: and I'm with you on every in that regard. Anybody,
Speaker 1: Dak Zeke, I don't care who it is on this roster, right,
Speaker 1: everybody should be getting coached to the same level, wouldn't
Speaker 1: have the same expectations, meaning that sometimes you got you
Speaker 1: gotta dig out, you know, you get on somebody's head.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: do or not, but I'm just saying I said yesterday
Speaker 1: that there's not as many You can't use the same
Speaker 1: excuse as to use a few weeks ago. They got
Speaker 1: he's got his receivers back. All that, I will say
Speaker 1: with the caller, I agree with a lot of what
Speaker 1: he said. It's a great call. We're not saying the
Speaker 1: offensive line is the problem. It's a problem, yes, it's
Speaker 1: they're not playing as well as they need to play.
Speaker 1: This is a team game, this is the ultimate team game.
Speaker 1: He can't do it all by himself. He's got to
Speaker 1: be better, obviously, but there's other factors that are making
Speaker 1: his job probably more difficult than they need to be,
Speaker 1: and he's not playing well on top of it. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, that's my quarterback, and I'm a defendant, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like they're we're not making excuses
Speaker 1: for Dak. We've seen Dak ball and so I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna take anybody's word as saying, oh, he's broken and
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have given him that money. I understand that
Speaker 1: that comes with a territory. Once you get to check,
Speaker 1: everybody now has the opportunity to say what you are
Speaker 1: and what you never were. But he's not an average
Speaker 1: quarterback in this league. And for everybody we won Sunday,
Speaker 1: we won. Yeah, we want We're not a fool, you
Speaker 1: understand it. So there are teams out there that have
Speaker 1: marginal quarterbacks with good defenses that hope to ride that
Speaker 1: momentum into the super Bowl. We ain't one of them
Speaker 1: because we got a guy that we have enough evidence
Speaker 1: to show that this man is a gamer and he's
Speaker 1: a baller. And I want to talk more on that
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Speaker 1: and about Dak and what's going on over the last
Speaker 1: month or so of the season. He did win the game. Heck,
Speaker 1: ma Harrison, there's a game this week. There is a
Speaker 1: game this week, New York Giants on the docket. I
Speaker 1: think the biggest frustration this will be the final kind
Speaker 1: of talking point that we have. I think the biggest
Speaker 1: frustration for Cowboys fans right now isn't the fact that
Speaker 1: you're nine and four and you're winning too the vision.
Speaker 1: None of that should matter at the moment because you
Speaker 1: feel good about where this team is. I think the
Speaker 1: frustration is where you want this team to go. Oh.
Speaker 1: I think it's where you want the expectations to be.
Speaker 1: Because in the past, the expectation is that if you
Speaker 1: have a middle of the road defense and the offense
Speaker 1: is what they're expected to be, you feel really good
Speaker 1: about your chances come playoff time. That's not the case.
Speaker 1: Right now. The defense is exceptional, the defense is continuing
Speaker 1: to peak, and now the offense is lagging. But you
Speaker 1: feel like there's opportunity there. So do you agree disagree?
Speaker 1: Is it more about the expectation of where this team
Speaker 1: needs to go as opposed to the nine and four
Speaker 1: record of where they're at right now? You know, being
Speaker 1: he's the only guy that's ever received the Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 1: I think he knows that the Lombard he always gets
Speaker 1: delivered in February. It never gets delivered in December. So
Speaker 1: we still have everything to play for and everything is
Speaker 1: in front of us. And so you talk about doing
Speaker 1: shows with Kyle and Kyle critiquing what you do and
Speaker 1: you having to come back and be better. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: that Dad can come back and be better. He's had
Speaker 1: to overachieve his whole career, from being picked in the
Speaker 1: fourth round to now being the Crown Prince as a
Speaker 1: quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. He will be better. What
Speaker 1: do you think? I think you're right. I think we're
Speaker 1: watching the game last night, Cardinals, Rams, Rams rise up
Speaker 1: and win that game. Who this has a chance to
Speaker 1: be the most stack NFC playoffs I've seen since the nineties,
Speaker 1: I don't know. So yeah, I think that's a huge
Speaker 1: viewpoint from the fan base of not only like we've
Speaker 1: seen what they can do, what they're capable of. Let's
Speaker 1: get back to that what it's going to take to
Speaker 1: get through the NFC playoffs, because there is it's limitless
Speaker 1: the number of really good teams that they could run
Speaker 1: into in January, so they have to get better they
Speaker 1: do now. Look Kyler Murray through two picks last night. Hello,
Speaker 1: hasn't been the same quarterback as good? Still good, not
Speaker 1: as great as before the injury. This is what happens.
Speaker 1: Team teams make adjustments. They've got a month to figure
Speaker 1: it out and get their things righted before playoff time
Speaker 1: because they're inching closer and closer to clinch in the division.
Speaker 1: Touche touch. That's all you need to talk about, all right,
Speaker 1: that doesn't for us here on Talking Cowboys, Thanks to
Speaker 1: all of our fan callers and Cowboys Nation for chiming in.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow we preview the Giants offense versus the Cowboys defense.
Speaker 1: How does that turn out for the Cowboys? I think
Speaker 1: it looks pretty good for the Plazuka micampartrions for Chris Beef,
Speaker 1: Rob phillipsis as stand back. Heck my Harrison, I'm Kyle
Speaker 1: Yeoman saying so long. We'll see you tomorrow. On Talking Cowboys.
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