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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one on one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers

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Speaker 1: at Law. We are the world's number one podcast for

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Speaker 1: everything cannabis. Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one.

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Speaker 1: My name is Blue. Alongside of me is Joe Grande

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Speaker 1: and the world famous Pot Brothers at Law. And you

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Speaker 1: are now tuned into the greatest cannabis show in the country,

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Speaker 1: in the world. It's definitely on my block, the most

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Speaker 1: famous across all I pot say it again across the

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Speaker 1: all What you spoke another maybe the podcast? Did you lose?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? Spoken before we came on right now?

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Speaker 1: This is why smoke sweed before you always quarantine. I

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Speaker 1: haven't forgot enough today is the problem. He doesn't smoke

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Speaker 1: hit just now. So yeah, but remember the best are

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Speaker 1: the best podcast in the galaxy for sure. You know

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Speaker 1: what you know what's funny, Craig yesterday it was you

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Speaker 1: forgot the script? I did the script? How to say

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Speaker 1: I did not? I was given a coronavirus twist to

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Speaker 1: the script. My friend, there it is guys, We've got

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Speaker 1: an amazing show for you guys today, it's Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 1: one on one. Thanks for joining us, Craig and let

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Speaker 1: me say this, Joe, let us know what's going on

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Speaker 1: with the shop. Thank you guys all for listening to

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Speaker 1: the podcast Cannabis Talk one on one on the I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: But before we started the show, I gotta tell you

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Speaker 1: guys about some new science regarding cannabis, and it's saying

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Speaker 1: it's making you less constipated. If you're struggling with constant

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Speaker 1: succording to research published in the American Journal of Gastriel,

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Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I'm far from a doctor

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Speaker 1: recently smoked weed were less likely to suffer from constipation. Now,

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Speaker 1: this study lasted about six years, which is dope. But

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Speaker 1: scientists still don't completely understand how the cannabis affects the

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Speaker 1: gas shrow system and the digestive process all this, but

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering with you guys, especially you Mark and Craig.

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Speaker 1: Does it really help you? I mean, Craig, I understand

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Speaker 1: now why you work depends all the time. I'm just wondering.

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Speaker 1: Not even sixty yet, Joe, I'm not even sixty yet,

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Speaker 1: So what a poop? Does it help you? Because I

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Speaker 1: Wasserban has stories from when cannabis goes bad, and he

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Speaker 1: with who's making waves out there in the cannabis industry? Brother,

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Speaker 1: what's going down? So Dan Ballzarian, owner of cannabis brand Ignite,

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Speaker 1: charging the customers that come in to do this. A

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Speaker 1: lot of these places, you guys, were actually charging customers

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Speaker 1: and other three dollars and fifty cents to use your card. Really,

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Speaker 1: I mean really, it's just a It's like it's like

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Speaker 1: cashing a check. Um, it's like cashing a check. Bottom

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Speaker 1: line is you get an app. I was just explicit

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Speaker 1: card no CARDRD. You're not using a bank. You get

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Speaker 1: the app, you guys, It's kind of like you know PayPal.

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Speaker 1: You connect the app to your bank account, so that's

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Speaker 1: how you do it. But it's only through the A

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Speaker 1: C eight you can't do a credit card. And then

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Speaker 1: when you do that. The other good part that Hyper

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Speaker 1: is doing they're only charging the merchants about three percent.

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Speaker 1: So that's good for the merchants. And I'm all about

437
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Speaker 1: companies saving money because these other companies that were doing them,

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Speaker 1: they're hitting them for like five six percent and then

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Speaker 1: a three dollar service d and all this stuff. As

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Speaker 1: I said, I hope a lot of businesses do this.

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Speaker 1: I love they're doing. I love the people that I

442
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: were talking to aut Hyper And the only problem is

443
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Speaker 1: not a lot of dispensaries have it. So it's a

444
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: beautiful app that people can use. If you can do it,

445
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: especially during this COVID nineteen time, you're gonna say from

446
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Speaker 1: touching your money, who knows where that money is going

447
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Speaker 1: in there and getting money back, you just use the app.

448
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: And I'm really happy to say that Dennis O'Malley, the

449
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Speaker 1: CEO of of that company out there, Khaliva, he hooked

450
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Speaker 1: up with them to say we're gonna try to be

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Speaker 1: a little safer, so more dispenses trying to be a

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Speaker 1: little safer real quick. Speaking of Kaleva, man, they carry

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Speaker 1: a lot of products, you know, like vabes, flowers, edibles,

454
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Speaker 1: wellness products, cb D and things like that. They have

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Speaker 1: some very very fantastic gummies and just awesome products and

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Speaker 1: you know, I, you know, I really think that they're

457
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Speaker 1: a huge brand that's gonna be integrated. They have all

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Speaker 1: grows and everything else. And the way they do there grows.

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Speaker 1: If you go to Khaliva dot com and watch how

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Speaker 1: they're do there goes. They're in white suits, they're in

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Speaker 1: shoe marks is they're not allowing tend's shoes to walk

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00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: into their grow areas. They treat it like a straight

463
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: medicine lab, like crazy over the top and it's just

464
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Speaker 1: for recreational you. So, I just think that more companies

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Speaker 1: don't use adult use medical use to thank you, But

466
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Speaker 1: don't you guys agree that it's great for somebody to

467
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Speaker 1: look out and say, you know what, why come out

468
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Speaker 1: with cash when you could do something that's still using

469
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Speaker 1: your own cash to buy it? But I think more

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Speaker 1: dispensaries should do this, your guys thoughts on it, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they wouldn't. Would be another option

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Speaker 1: to you know, for selling geez especially. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of dispensaries still like the cash, you know, um,

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Speaker 1: just to be honest with you, people, people enjoy cash,

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Speaker 1: you know, whatever reason reason why getting charge percent to

476
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Speaker 1: use this, but it's not that much. It's part cost

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Speaker 1: of doing business. But I hear you well, safety to

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Speaker 1: safety because people delivery. That's the key thing right there,

479
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Speaker 1: mark for safety of delivery services. Why now when you

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Speaker 1: deliver it to me, I don't have to worry about

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Speaker 1: somebody following you and robbing both of us, you or

482
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: and and bonus, you're not touching other people's money right now,

483
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: right now. That makes the most sense and and I

484
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Speaker 1: see it as the future. It's gonna be difficult for

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Speaker 1: the world to change. You know, We're just so used

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Speaker 1: to paying cash for cannabis. It's it's kind of like

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00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: a traditional thing. Um. But and it's federally illegal to

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Speaker 1: use a credit card. So that's why I'm giving props

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Speaker 1: out to these two companies Khaliva and hyper and not

490
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: only that, to do it for a good cause of

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Speaker 1: like trying to save people's lives. I'm Joe Grande and

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Speaker 1: that's your go green Moments, Mark Washerman, he k Little

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Speaker 1: Brother the world famous pop brothers at law. What's going

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Speaker 1: on with when cannabis goes bad? Thank you Joe. But

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Speaker 1: before I get into that, I would like to give

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Speaker 1: a very special thanks to our producer Elvis, working hirelessly

497
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Speaker 1: at home even and he just tested testing positive after

498
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Speaker 1: being positive and going through it all for a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. Elvis, we love you, Thank you for all

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00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: you do. And we also want to thank our social

501
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: media director Jennifer Dan at the Hollywood I Heart Building

502
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: for helping us get this podcast up and out to

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Speaker 1: the world. Sophie, Jack and Will and a huge shout

504
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: out to Big Boy and everyone else who supported cannabis

505
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Speaker 1: talk one on one. We truly appreciate you all. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, I like to rip these stories from out

507
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Speaker 1: of the headlines wherever I can get them all over

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Speaker 1: the world. But today we're going back to a consultation

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00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: call for when cannabis goes bad because we received these

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Speaker 1: calls almost daily. So can we record them? Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: we need their permission to do that, so and we

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Speaker 1: have Actually, we've we we've we've clip of them. We've

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Speaker 1: done it in the past, so we can. We can

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Speaker 1: certainly listen in on some of them who don't mind.

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Speaker 1: But this woman called she was pulled over at one

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Speaker 1: am in Del Norte, California, out after twelve o'clock. Like

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Speaker 1: my mama used to say, nothing good happens after midnight.

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Speaker 1: Right there you go. That's one note. It's it's about

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Speaker 1: to go bad. So the officer started the conversation by

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Speaker 1: letting her know the reason why she was pulled over, now,

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Speaker 1: which was not for swerving or any other indication of

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Speaker 1: impaired driving, was she was white occasion, Kay, she was,

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Speaker 1: she was Caucasian, and this is what she got pulled

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Speaker 1: over for. And we've been saying this for a while now,

525
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: and it's been going on across the country. We hear

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Speaker 1: getting pulled over for the illuminating light on your rear

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Speaker 1: driver's license plate being out. Now I know you know,

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00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: I've done other stories from Cannabis goes bad and it

529
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: starts like this a lot that that lights out, they

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00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: pull you over. Now, now getting back to what this

531
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: officer was doing is really good teaching moment because you

532
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: never know which officer you are going to. The officer,

533
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: the officer that truly truly wants to keep people safe.

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Speaker 1: He intends on giving you the traffic citation you were

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Speaker 1: pulled over for unless something jumps out of his face,

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Speaker 1: or the officer who is looking to turn that traffic

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Speaker 1: stop into a d U I or some felony or misdemeanor.

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00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: So now when they immediate of them, well, well when

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00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: when they immediately tell you why they pulled you over,

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Speaker 1: which is what they're supposed to do, it's either the

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Speaker 1: officer who really wants to just give you that ticket

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00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: and let you be on your way, or he's taking

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00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,239
Speaker 1: that friendly approach, which is to get you comfortable so

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Speaker 1: you will answer questions later on. And so this officer

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00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: then asked this one compound question. He Joe, do you

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Speaker 1: know what a compound question is? I know, but I

547
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Speaker 1: know what a compound is. Where I used to live

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Speaker 1: at when I was locked up in this basement. I well,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure. So a compound question is

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00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: when somebody asked a question that's full of other questions.

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Speaker 1: So what did you say? I said, all right, have you?

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00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: And so here was here was the question, have you

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Speaker 1: had any alcohol, drugs or marijuana this evening? I'm not discussing?

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00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: She said, what you know what? Joe? Hold on, Now

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00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: you're a little ahead of me, because I was going

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Speaker 1: to ask you what's the first thing? She should say?

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Speaker 1: You were close, But I'll give you one more chance.

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Speaker 1: Now she just got pulled over. Why am I being

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Speaker 1: pulled over? Officer? But that's okay. But that's okay. I

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Speaker 1: would you repeat it? And even though he just said it,

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Speaker 1: say it back to him. Why did you pull me over?

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Speaker 1: And make him repeat? Asked me a question if I've

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Speaker 1: had anything today? What's I'm not discussing my day? And

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00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: that was and that's and that's coming. And so she

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00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: said instead of that, I smoked about an hour I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean I smoked about two hours ago, waited an

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Speaker 1: hour and then I left, and she was taking a

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Speaker 1: ten minute drive from her friend's house. Can I just

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Speaker 1: tell people that it's not lying if you don't say it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's why I'm not discussing my days. I know want

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Speaker 1: to live. That shut the funk up, right, You never lie,

572
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: never lied. So so she then made another bad move

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Speaker 1: when she did all of the requested field sobriety tests.

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Speaker 1: Now Here in California those are voluntary and in some

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Speaker 1: in other states too. You gotta google it in your state,

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00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: but a lot of a lot of states it's voluntary.

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Speaker 1: Tests are geared to get you to fail, and so

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Speaker 1: in California will speak to that. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: do the field sobriety test. Side note, if you get

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Speaker 1: arrested and taken into custody, then you have to do

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Speaker 1: a blood breath or urine test or the DMV will

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Speaker 1: take your license for a year under what's called the

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Speaker 1: implied consent law. So you don't want to do those

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Speaker 1: here in California. Then she did all those and they're

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00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna say she failed, and they they they always do that,

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00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: and then the officer asked her another question, which you know,

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Speaker 1: I've been doing criminal defense for twenty four years and

588
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: reading police reports and surveillance reports, seen a lot of

589
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: crazy things, heard a lot of crazy things. But this question,

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00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: I've this question. He asked her, on a scale of

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Speaker 1: one to ten, how affected are you by the cannabis

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Speaker 1: you smoked two hours ago? Now? What should have been

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Speaker 1: her response if we're sticking to the script, But she

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Speaker 1: already messed up by saying that, so she can't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm my day or or or if you're on your toes,

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Speaker 1: you're like, nothing doesn't affect me at all. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not discussing my day. But we we can't get so

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Speaker 1: lucky here, because this is when cannabis goes bad. And

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00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: she said four. You know, it's like picking an arbitrary

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Speaker 1: number out of the air. But just say one nothing.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel nothing. And that's even more surprising. Better

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Speaker 1: to say I'm not discussing my day, because that's what

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00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: you can't screw up. You've already you've already just incriminate yourself,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because you know, police officer like, well,

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Speaker 1: how drunk are you? Because I wanted to and see

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Speaker 1: and this is this is this is a lot of

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00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: people a good example of why what we say about

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Speaker 1: the script and doing what we say is is important

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Speaker 1: to defending cases because in a case like this, if

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Speaker 1: she did not talk, if she followed the script and

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00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: stf you and everything we say, it's a completely defendable case.

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Speaker 1: A lot of these cannabis, du wise will be completely

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Speaker 1: defendable if you don't say anything. Her statement I smoked

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Speaker 1: about an hour ago, I mean I smoked about two

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Speaker 1: hours and waited and then I left, and then answering

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Speaker 1: the scale, that's horrible. What what are you tell her?

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Speaker 1: Besides you know your your consultation feast four grand and no, no,

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Speaker 1: no it's not four grands. We have very reasonable Actually

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Speaker 1: we just started doing zoom uh consultations for drastically discounted rates.

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Speaker 1: So you know, wash law. If cannabis goes bad for you,

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Speaker 1: you can you can give us a call and we

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00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: can talk about it. But I tell you the truth,

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Speaker 1: as you know from from our videos, as you know

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Speaker 1: from us being you know me and my brother who

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Speaker 1: we are. We tell it like it is and we're

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Speaker 1: not going to sugarcoat it. And with my criminal defense

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Speaker 1: attorney had on a statement like that is just killer

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Speaker 1: if a jury here's a statement like that, there's so

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Speaker 1: many reefor madness out there, people out there that are

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00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: just so worried that they'll, oh, no, she spoke two

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Speaker 1: hours and she to make a case like that and

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Speaker 1: let her know, look at your chances of really getting

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Speaker 1: off for very slim because you open your mouth and

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Speaker 1: it's just now we have to try these other angles

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Speaker 1: of what are you saying? Well, so it's like it's

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Speaker 1: like it's like this, you know, you're you, You've you've

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Speaker 1: got yourself in a bad spot. And when they first

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Speaker 1: come like this likely now I need to wait and

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Speaker 1: see when we go in all criminal defense case, whether

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Speaker 1: it's jaywalking or attempted murder, we're going in we're pleading

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Speaker 1: not guilty because I need to see the evidence. I

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Speaker 1: need to see what they're portraying as the evidence that's

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Speaker 1: going to persuade a jury at the end of the

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Speaker 1: day to convict my client. Where's the where's your path?

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe the cop messes up on the report.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. All I know is that we have

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Speaker 1: to look at the police report, look at surveillance evidence,

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Speaker 1: if there's audio video and put it all together and

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Speaker 1: see where we could put entially poke holes. And you know,

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Speaker 1: because her statement alone while damaging, with proper experts for

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Speaker 1: these marijuana cannabis d u E s, you can get

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Speaker 1: in there and so look, there was no driving that

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Speaker 1: was impaired, she wasn't swerving, there was just what oh,

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Speaker 1: and then these arbitrary touch your nose and do this.

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Speaker 1: We can get our own experts to come in and

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Speaker 1: then breaking down the blood that's the major factor because

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Speaker 1: of what's called the active THHC and carboxy th h

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Speaker 1: which is non to carboxy th HC which is non psychoactive,

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Speaker 1: and that gets ready in it. So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of different factors. But we as criminal defense attorneys cannot

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Speaker 1: help you to the best of our abilities if you

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Speaker 1: talk and you say things like that. So the moral

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Speaker 1: of a story like this is to just shut the

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Speaker 1: funk up. When cops asked questions, stick to our twenty

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Speaker 1: five words script. Let's run through it just one time

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Speaker 1: really quick. With the COVID nineteen twist, Big brother, what

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Speaker 1: do you say when the cops first pull you over?

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Speaker 1: Why did you pull me over? And when they start

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Speaker 1: asking you questions politely. I'm not discussing my day or evening, sir,

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Speaker 1: And they keep asking and they start asking more questions

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Speaker 1: and getting your face. Am I being detained? Am I

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Speaker 1: free to go? And then he says, hey, there's a

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Speaker 1: stay at home order? Why are you out? I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go get my cannabis, which has been denk essential. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're probably gonna go get some trannies too. You're getting

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Speaker 1: some transvestites being detained? Are free to go? You know what?

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Speaker 1: You're being detained. Get out of the car, sir. I'm

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Speaker 1: invoking my fifth moment rights. And then what do you do?

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Speaker 1: I shut the funk up, Shut the funk up, And

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Speaker 1: that that's the story of the day. Right. I would

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Speaker 1: just say I'm not discussing, and I want to sell

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Speaker 1: everybody out there because Blue and I have argued this

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Speaker 1: to death with them, meaning does this work for minorities

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Speaker 1: like Blue and I are Latin and we think of

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Speaker 1: our black folks, And you know what, because Blue and

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Speaker 1: I have been harassed so many times when thinking I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it would work like at Blue could

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Speaker 1: have test firsthand it has worked for him. And then

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Speaker 1: bottom bottom line is what I say, when we talk

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Speaker 1: it all out, no matter what, And I love how

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Speaker 1: Mark put it this way. If the cop is gonna

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Speaker 1: beat your ass, is gonna beat your ass no matter what,

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Speaker 1: just shut the funk up, follow the script, and we

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Speaker 1: have a better chance of getting you out of it

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Speaker 1: and helping you sue them and win everything back for you.

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Speaker 1: So it's not a guarantee that you're not gonna get harrassed,

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Speaker 1: not gonna get cupped or to jail or arrested or

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Speaker 1: beat up. Right, it's not about it's the best opportunity

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Speaker 1: to get everything taken away from the police officer that

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Speaker 1: does do that to you. So I just want to

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Speaker 1: be clear on that. So one other more, what one

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Speaker 1: other moral I wanted to point out because you you

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Speaker 1: heard I smoked two hours and I smoked that and

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Speaker 1: we just said, don't lie. And a very common response

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Speaker 1: for people who are drinking. I had one drink, I

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Speaker 1: had two drinks, and then applies admitting your drinking or driving.

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Speaker 1: Never tell the cops what, when, where you smoke, how

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Speaker 1: much you had to drink, nothing, don't lie. Stick to

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Speaker 1: those words we just went over because with this lady,

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Speaker 1: that's how cannabis go is bad. I'm Mark Washerman, little

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Speaker 1: brother of the Pop Brothers at Law. Well there it is, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's Cannabis Talk one oh one. Remember this if no

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