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Speaker 1: We have a very active chat, a great community, and

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Speaker 2: Hurt my feelings. And I didn't even know about it,

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Speaker 1: Okay? Well, Aj, it was another day for Kratz to

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Speaker 1: And I defended you to the death yesterday, not for

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Speaker 2: and the Mets still haven't gotten better since yesterday. You're

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Speaker 1: We just want to get along, that's all. We can

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Speaker 2: He just came out and said, see, I was right.

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Speaker 3: The difference between knowing and saying it right is different,

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Speaker 3: So chras just go with that defense. Just say you

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Stephen A watched some sports, not baseball. He

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Speaker 1: he does bring up our sport. Let's charge.

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Speaker 1: Today. We're going to spend some time going over potential

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Speaker 2: They're ready for arbitration. And AJ Hinch was talking about

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Speaker 3: Like and I think people in Orlando haven't got excited

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Speaker 1: But we'll see, yeah, because the way you read it

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Speaker 2: What do you think now, have you ever been again?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been to a Rais game? Have you

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Speaker 3: They also have some stops along the way that you

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Speaker 3: can there be bad traffic, yes, But it's all about when.

430
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Speaker 3: And there's certain times of the day that you know,

431
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Speaker 3: I don't go to Disney, and there's certain times of

432
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 3: the year when you say, okay, I got to stay

433
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: away from this general area because I know there's a

434
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Speaker 3: million people in town for a convention or something at Disney,

435
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: so you stay away from that area. Other than that,

436
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 3: Disney is a self contained animal, and Universal is now

437
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 3: almost a self contained animal where they are located because

438
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 3: they have this whole area that's Universal and Disney's not

439
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 3: even in the city, so it doesn't even count. But

440
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: I want to go back to what the guy said

441
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 3: about Orlando could and keep the Atlanta Braids at Disney

442
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 3: Spring Training I played for the Braves my last two years. Okay,

443
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 3: we sold out damn near every game. I'm saying, I

444
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 3: don't know how many stat Stadium hold ten twelve fifteen thousand.

445
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 3: It was sold out almost every single game. The Braves

446
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 3: didn't leave Disney because they weren't drawing people and they

447
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 3: weren't getting fans.

448
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 2: They left as the complex fucking sucked. Okay. We had

449
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: to sit in there with no chairs. We had a

450
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 2: locker room with no chairs. I had to bring my

451
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 2: little fulled up tail getting chair and put it in

452
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: my locker because we didn't have room for stools and

453
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: we didn't have room for chairs. That's a big leage clubhouse.

454
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 2: To get to any work done, you had to walk

455
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 2: all the way across the field. The training room was

456
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: had two tables in it because it was so small.

457
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: There was one couch. The food room was smaller than

458
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 2: a closet at Scott's House. Okay, So it wasn't because

459
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: there weren't drawing, and it wasn't because it wasn't popular.

460
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: They moved because the facility sucked and the Disney wouldn't

461
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 2: throw money into it.

462
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 3: It's like, why are we throwing money into this, we

463
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 3: get fifteen thousand fans a game. The Braves were like, hey,

464
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: Northport or Sarasota, Northport, yeah it south Aarrisota whatever they

465
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: call it. Said, hey, we'll build you a brand new complex,

466
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: state of the art. Oh yeah, and we'll build all

467
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 3: the fields and you don't have to pay a dime.

468
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: But the brand, who's gonna say no to that?

469
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Speaker 2: No? Because there were times when I was with the

470
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 2: Braves we couldn't go on the backfields because there was

471
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: a Little League tournament happening, right and it would rain.

472
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 2: We had to go into the Milk Jug Complex whatever

473
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: it's called over there at Disney and throw indoors because

474
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: there was no fields that were available to use, right,

475
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: So that's why, So don't don't throw it like that's

476
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: this is like one of those worst arguments ever, like, oh,

477
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: they left, so I'm gonna use that. It's not true.

478
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: Okay, so before this is one of those county commissioners,

479
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 3: good politicking, but it's not true.

480
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Speaker 1: Thank you. I knew that would fire you up. And

481
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Speaker 1: as someone who has lived in Orlando for a much

482
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: much less portion of their much fewer years in his life,

483
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: I was even pissed reading some of these comments. The

484
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: thing to look at though, that I do believe all

485
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: the bs and the posturing and the debates about which

486
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: cities which right, and I like, we both love Tampa.

487
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: It's not it's not anything against Tampa. I just genuinely

488
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: feel that I can comment on this these days as

489
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: a Florida resident. I think Orlando would be a much

490
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: better spot for a team, and I even think that

491
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: MLB is on board at this point. With Orlando being

492
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: a better spot, it would be much easier government money wise.

493
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Speaker 2: What's the problem you have to You have two problems

494
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: right now.

495
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: One, Ron DeSantis is the governor and he's from the

496
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: Tampa Clearwater area, so he wants to keep the team

497
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: over there, right. The other problem you have to figure

498
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: out is that if they haven't exhausted, you have to

499
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: if it's going to come to Orlando, it almost has

500
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 3: to be turn key right where they say, okay, we're

501
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 3: going to Orlando, and Orlando has to have the infrastructure

502
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: everything already ready to go.

503
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 2: Right like boom, you say, yes, we turn the foss

504
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 2: and all we start building the stadium, we start improving

505
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: the roads, we have the train station ready to go,

506
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 2: and it's done right, because what it gets hung up

507
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 2: is where it's hung up now in Tampa, politicians, bureaucrats, whatever.

508
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: Oh I want my little peace, I want my little piece.

509
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: I want this. I want that. You have to have it.

510
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 3: If you're Orlando, you have to have it turnkey where

511
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 3: they just say, boom, we're turning on the faucet.

512
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: Okay, let's move. Let's make this move.

513
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: Let's start the stadium next month and the Rays are

514
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 3: moving in three years, however long it takes to move

515
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 3: a stadium.

516
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: Will it happen? I don't know. Do I hope it happens.

517
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm from Orlando. I want a team. The

518
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: Magic have done well.

519
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: As long as you get the theme parks involves them. Well,

520
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: I don't know how you do that because most of

521
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 3: them want their people to stay in their theme park area.

522
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: But you gotta get the theme parks involved one way

523
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: or another, and I don't know how you do that.

524
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: I will say this last point. The reason this came

525
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: up with the county commissioner out there for that Hillsbury

526
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 1: County or Hillsboro County, and that's the college, Hillsboro College.

527
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: So they would actually take over parts of the college campus.

528
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: When we've seen that in the by the way, it

529
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: usually ultimately gets rejected when you're trying to get the

530
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: education system involved in all that. So I'm skeptical, but

531
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. DeSantis spoke about this the governor

532
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: of Florida and said, yeah, they're gonna get the first

533
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: crack talking about the Tampa Bay area. But if not,

534
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: He's like, our priority is keeping this team in Florida.

535
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: And I do believe that's the case. So he did say,

536
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean Orlando wants it. Disney would love to put

537
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: out Wilde World of Sports. Universal could put it close

538
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: to their parks. So I believe that's back in the

539
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: conversation here. And I don't know the new ownership group well,

540
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: but I think there's a chance they look at what's

541
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: gone on there for a long period of time and say, okay, enough,

542
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: this is too long. We went through this last time around.

543
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a villain. I want to

544
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: actually see this team thrive and be able to compete

545
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. That's part of the problem too.

546
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: Are they always going to be Moneyball of Florida?

547
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: Thirty years years, thirty years it's ridiculous. I saw I

548
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: saw an NBA game like in nineteen ninety geez one

549
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: at the Trop back in the day. I mean it

550
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: was way back.

551
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: I remember when Vaughan Hayes, Philly's legend Kratz was in

552
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 3: spring training. They brought them over from clear Water and

553
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: they hit them fly balls in the Trup to make

554
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: sure that people could see, so they could prove that

555
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: they could have a team and support a team in

556
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 3: the Trop. So the stadium was built before there was

557
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 3: a team, because Saint Pete actually was forward thinking and said, man,

558
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: if we build a stadium, they will come.

559
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: A team actually came and now we're here, But that

560
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: was in the That was like nineteen ninety when they

561
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 2: built the Trop. And so now we're almost, you know,

562
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: forty years later, and the Rays are still looking for

563
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: a new team in Tampa. Doesn't seem to be helping

564
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: them and every capacity that they can.

565
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: I can't believe it's been that long. It blows my mind.

566
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: There should be some type of deadline that leagues put

567
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: together going forward and say if you don't do this,

568
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: you get fined X amount of money. I mean, if

569
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: you put a deadline in baseball on almost anything, it

570
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: usually leads to a little more action. So we'll say,

571
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: to be continued, Yeah, that's what he said.

572
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: That's what he said. That's what he said.

573
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: That's what we said. Fascinating story over the weekend from

574
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: Dan Hayes and The Athletic covering the Twins and their

575
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: new head honcho, same last name, different first name. Yes,

576
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: it's Tom Pohlad these days who is running the Minnesota Twins,

577
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: and he apparently personally has been calling fans to say, sorry,

578
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: can you come back and buy season tickets again? I

579
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: think they're losing many season ticket holders lately. I don't

580
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 1: think we need to explain why. And he has been

581
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: very candid that the Twins tripped over themselves. He said,

582
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: quote in a lot of things, we tripped over ourselves,

583
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: and we certainly didn't do a good job communicating what

584
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: we were going through and what we were trying to accomplish.

585
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: You take that all together, and it's a recipe for

586
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: a very challenging time. We're trying to hit the reset button,

587
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: bring a new energy, different sets of urgency, accountability, blah

588
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: blah blah. They admitted that they blew it. This is

589
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: the whole thing. This is the whole storyline in one narrative,

590
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: and we were all over them. They blew it when

591
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: they finally made it past a playoff round in twenty

592
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: twenty four, and then after the season they're like, cut

593
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: and payroll, thanks for all the extra money. Minnesota cutt

594
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: and payroll, thanks for the playoff games. They slashed payroll

595
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: by thirty million dollars. And that was the beginning of

596
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: the downfall. Of course, it's going to most likely make

597
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: the team worse. Fans were livid. They were like, cool,

598
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: we finally built up to this moment, and then they

599
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: just got punched in the face. And from then on

600
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: you had eventually the ownership group looking to sell. They

601
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: didn't sell. They said we're keeping the team. We're the

602
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: best people to keep the team. And here we are

603
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: now with one of the most pissed off fan bases

604
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: in all of sports, and they're trying to make up

605
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: for that right now. Paul ad was very good in

606
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: this either interviewer with the Press. He said most of

607
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: the fans didn't pick up his call, some of them

608
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: didn't believe that he was calling. He acknowledged one fan

609
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: hung on up on him. Aja three times convinced the

610
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: phone call was a hoax. It gets better. When he

611
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: finally convinced the fan via text messages he was in

612
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: fact the new Twins head control, owner, chairman, whatever it is.

613
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: He received an unkind response and a refusal to speak.

614
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: So it was I don't believe you. And then finally

615
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: and I believe you, but I still don't want to

616
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 1: talk to you. Your thoughts on the state of the Twins,

617
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: and I'll throw one more thing in there for you.

618
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: They talked about how they need a sustainable winner and

619
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Speaker 1: how twenty twenty six is huge for them. What are

620
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: you doing this offseason? Not much?

621
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, cool? He called fans trying to get him back.

622
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: That's cool.

623
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: He called like thirty or forty fans that had given

624
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: up their season tickets. But then I ask you this question,

625
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: what's the incentive for the fans to come to the

626
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: games in downtown Minneapolis right now? Because the team's just

627
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 3: they traded away what ten guys at the trade deadline

628
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: last year and no offense to Victor Kartini and Rogers,

629
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: but they didn't really bring anybody in. And they're talking

630
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: about trade and Joe Ryan and Pablo Lopez could be

631
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: on the book Byron Buckson's been talked about getting traded.

632
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: Ryan Jeffers has been I mean, I know Royce Lewis

633
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: can be something if he stays healthy, which is the biggest,

634
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: one of the biggest ifs. Ever, what's exciting for the

635
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: Twins fans to be excited about and want to go

636
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: to these games? Target Field's awesome. I get all that,

637
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: but what's the excitement. Where's the Hey, we're help, We're

638
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: trying to show everybody that we're committed. Twenty six is huge,

639
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: but we're slashing payroll.

640
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

641
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: This just seems like a lot. It just seems like

642
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: a lot of I don't even know what to call it.

643
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: Just it's just a lot about nothing. It's just a

644
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: lot about nothing. Right, It's it's cool that he did this,

645
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: but at the same time, you know, put your money

646
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: where your mouth is.

647
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: Whatever it is.

648
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: And we've talked about on the show too many times,

649
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: and Aron Glehamans talked about it.

650
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: It just seems like they're waiting for the right oppertunity

651
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: to sell the team.

652
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: No doubt they're definitely going to sell the team. There's

653
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. That's why they pulled that off.

654
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: They cleared some debt that makes the team more attractive

655
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: to sell. They acted like it was going to make

656
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: them do more. They haven't done anything. So you look

657
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: at a team right now that is going into twenty

658
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: twenty six, almost like a lame duck with an owner,

659
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: right You're just waiting for the team to be sold

660
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: and for a fresh set of decision makers. So I

661
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: want to do this. We haven't done this in a

662
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: really long time, and I feel like it's the perfect

663
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: day for it. A lot of people are cold inside,

664
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: maybe didn't even go to work today. I would like

665
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: to resurrect role play now. Yes, I am allowing either

666
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: of you to pick aside. So whoever wants to participate

667
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: in this, the other person will kind of be with them.

668
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: We're going to have an owner in Tom Polad, who's

669
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: like the new spokesman in the pol Ad family. And

670
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: then you'll have a season ticket holder, and maybe it's

671
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: two season ticket holders. So you guys get to pick

672
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: your roles and I'll decide based on what you guys

673
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: pick who I'm going.

674
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: To be a part ticket holder beause because.

675
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want to be do you want to

676
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: be Tom or do you do? You want to be

677
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: on the Tom side or the season ticket holder side,

678
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: and then I'll decide which side I should be on.

679
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: No, I'm out. I want you to to role play

680
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: and I'll be the I'll be the arbitrator.

681
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: Can you do like play by play? Okay? Cool? So

682
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's get this rolling here because and

683
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: the last thing I'll say before we start this is

684
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: in the article they mentioned how there's too much one

685
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: good year, one bad year, and they want to build

686
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: a sustainable product just like every freaking team in baseball.

687
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: You can't all do that. Not everyone's going to be

688
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: good every year and bad every year. But they essentially

689
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: created their own rebuilt after they finally cracked a postseason series.

690
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: So with all of that being said, here we go.

691
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: I've already gone through multiple calls. Then I texted Krats,

692
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: who was a longtime season ticket holder in Minnesota, and

693
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: he doubled down and bought better seats when they moved

694
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: into target Field because they did a great job with

695
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: that place, and they promised the city and the fans

696
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: that they would spend more because they would make more

697
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: till they rugged everyone. So I finally got a hold

698
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: of Crats and we're on the line right now. Eric,

699
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: this is Tom Poule. Lad thank you for finally picking

700
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: up the call. How were you?

701
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: Oh? Thanks? Thanks for calling, big Minnesota fan, don't you know?

702
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: Wow? This is already off to a nicer start than

703
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: I anticipated. We'd like you to come back. We'd like

704
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: you to buy season tickets again. I saw that you

705
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: canceled last year. Things are going to be different now.

706
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: Payroll's about the same. We're coming off a bad year.

707
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: I know we got rid of a third of the team,

708
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: but Eric, we didn't trade our stars. We're keeping Pablo

709
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: Lopez for now. We're keeping Joe Ryan for now. Carlos

710
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: Kraja moved on, but that's okay. We'll eventually be able

711
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: to reinvest that. Did you know that our debt is

712
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: in better shape than it was?

713
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that you guys had a bag

714
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: of debt because it's just one of those things that

715
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: there's a fan. All I'm really looking for is to

716
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: watch my team win a bunch of games. And right

717
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: now I'm doing a lot of ice fishing up in

718
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: the Upper Uopers and there's just really not a lot

719
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: of baseball in my mind. When it gets sunny. You

720
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 2: know what I want to see. I want to see

721
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: Byron Buxton stay in center field, and I want to

722
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: see nine more relievers that you traded away coming in

723
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: to save the games. Because it's one of the nicest stadiums,

724
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 2: it's a great environment. We probably should have a roof,

725
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 2: but I'm okay with that because Target Field is nice

726
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 2: and we are nice people up here, and we enjoy

727
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: the city when it's in the summertime, don't you know,

728
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: Because there's a lot of mosquitoes up here. But right

729
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: now you feel like a mosquito, and you're biting my

730
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: fandom right out of me. Tom.

731
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: Wow, this is an eloquent and very nice reply from you.

732
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: First off, I want to say that we are keeping

733
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: Buckston for now. We kind of tried to trade him

734
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: but it didn't want to go and he's got this

735
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: no trade class thing, so we actually can't even trade

736
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: him if we want to at the moment. Poor guy,

737
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: why won't you come back? What do you need us

738
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: to do differently to convince you to show up here.

739
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm not like my brother, I'm much more of a

740
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: go for it guy, and I'm trying to build a

741
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: sustainable winner here.

742
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: I actually have a check right here that I would

743
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 2: be willing to write to the team for my season

744
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 2: tickets if you were exactly what you said and actually

745
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: go for it. You've not only lied to the city,

746
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: but you also lied to Carlos Korea, who when he

747
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: signed here was one of my favorite signings of all time.

748
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: And you lied to him and said you would pay

749
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: more money. You haven't been upfront. So I'll keep my

750
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: check right here, and I'll go ahead and hunt mosquitos

751
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: in the summer instead of going to Minnesota Twins games.

752
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Tom.

753
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: Well, mosquitoes don't build a sustainable product. They often die

754
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: out in the wintertime. But whatever. Anyway, Okay, so he

755
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: hung up. All right, I'm going to hang up, and

756
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to turn to my Twins advisor AJ Prisentki

757
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: AJ for the next phone call. What do you think

758
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: I should do differently? How do I convince these season

759
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: ticket holders to actually come back when I have nothing

760
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: to tell them? And this is where I'm coming back

761
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: to real life for a moment. AJ. What are they

762
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: saying on the phone?

763
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: Nothing is changing, That's exactly right, hey, please come back

764
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: because I called you personally, Like what, I don't know. Listen,

765
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 3: the pole IDs have owned the team for a long

766
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: time since like the eighties, I believe, and nothing has

767
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 3: really changed.

768
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 2: Listen.

769
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: I played there in ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand

770
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 3: and two thousand and one thousand, so six years I

771
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: played in the major leagues in Minnesota. We played in

772
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: the Metrodome. Their excuse was, we have the Metrodome. We

773
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: can't spend money the Metrodome, the Metrodome, metro We actually

774
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: drew big crowds of the Metronome when we in two

775
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 3: thousand and two, we won the division.

776
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 2: Two thousand and three, he won the division. The crowds

777
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: are pretty good.

778
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: They got twenty five thirty thousand pretty much every game,

779
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: even on school nights, and the place was rocking.

780
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: And they said what they said, Man, as soon as

781
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 2: we get get into the new stadium, we're really gonna

782
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: go for it. We're gonna throw so much money at

783
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: this team. And they did. They did a little bit,

784
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: you know, they signed Joe Mauer, they signed you know,

785
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: they did some things. They tried, never really got over

786
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: the hump. Twenty two, they finally win the first postseason series,

787
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: and since I was there in two thousand and two,

788
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: and they're like, we're slashing payroll. So if I'm a fan,

789
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, you have told me you're gonna spend money.

790
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: You've told me when they get a new stadium, you

791
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: told me when they finally win the playoff series, we're

792
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: gonna do this, We're.

793
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: Gonna do that, and it hasn't gotten any better. Like

794
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 3: kind of, like krat said in his funny accent, why

795
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: would I spend my hard earned money to go watch

796
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: a product that I know is not gonna get any better.

797
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: You have to do something to prove and that to

798
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: the fans. You have to earn their trust. It's like

799
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates in Oakland, or the Sacramento A's and

800
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: and these other teams, the Miami Marlins. You want to

801
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: you have to prove that more than one year you're

802
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: actually gonna put a good product on the field. And

803
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: if you do that, you can grow the fan base

804
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: back and get them excited again. But if you're not

805
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna try, fans move on. Attention spans

806
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: are short in today's world. You know that Scott Gratch

807
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: you know that you have kids, Like attention SPAN's gone.

808
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: If you don't do it and you don't make me entertain,

809
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: I'm out. I'll find somewhere else to go and spend money.

810
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: Fans complain about ticket prices going up, Well, good news

811
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: is Minnesota Twins fans, your ticket prices are gonna go down.

812
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: And it's not because they cut payroll, slash payroll. It's

813
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: because people don't want to go there. They had an

814
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: influx of season ticket holders purchasing tickets when they signed

815
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 2: Carlos Korea. Why is that because they wanted to come

816
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 2: and see him play. Because they had developed intrigue around

817
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: the fact that Royce Lewis was now coming up, that

818
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: that Byron Buxton was going to stay healthy and there

819
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: was you know he signed his extension. Wow, like this

820
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: is a team I want to watch on the field.

821
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: They didn't have to pay any money for their bullpen.

822
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: They created those dudes like they were a dest that's

823
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: a nation for guys to come, like Correa who missed

824
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: out on two large markets, the Mets and the Giants

825
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: because of a physical and the Twins said, yes, we're

826
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: coming in and part of that contract while it wasn't

827
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: written anywhere. He was told, yes, we're gonna spend money

828
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: to keep putting players around you. That's that creates so

829
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: much of an intrigue for fans, which creates demand, which

830
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: raises ticket prices. When you don't do that, ticket prices

831
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: plummet because nobody wants to go to the games. So

832
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: the best way stop calling people, Stop calling ex fans.

833
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: While it's a cool idea and it's very nice, it's

834
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: a great gesture. Call free agents. Call people that will

835
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: be will bring the fans out to watch them play.

836
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: They just said they messed up two years ago, but

837
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: they're doing the same thing. They just said they messed up,

838
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: and they got an influx of cash. The only thing

839
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: that's gone up is the franchise value. They were bought

840
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four for forty four million dollars. The

841
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: team is at least worth one point five bill. They

842
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: just did a raise, right, so they have new minority

843
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: investors that are part of this group, and the raise,

844
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 1: I believe was valued at one point seventy five billion,

845
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: if we're going off the one point five bill, which

846
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: is a number that a ownership group would give up

847
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: this second for the team. They laughed at them because

848
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: they wanted one point seven to seven five, which they

849
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: think they're going to get when they vote for a

850
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: salary cap and the franchise value goes up thirty four

851
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: x return, not finding thirty four x returns basically anywhere

852
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: else in life thirty four x return. They have done

853
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: very well for themselves, they just haven't treated the city

854
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: that way. Well, you're trying to do some math. If

855
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: you can get thirty four hundred percent on.

856
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: Any investments right now since nineteen eighty what I mean

857
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: thirty four x? No, you you're not finding that unless

858
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: it's crypto year to year. But what year did they

859
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: buy it?

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00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty four?

861
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: So in that time you are going to get, you

862
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: are going to get. Your value of an investment is

863
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: going to go up over forty forty two years, not

864
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Speaker 2: at that rate though not at the times.

865
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Speaker 3: Also, let's not forget to pull out to many other businesses.

866
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember when I was playing there, they

867
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 3: sold like a Pepsi distributorship or something for three hundred

868
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 3: million dollars or some crazy amount four hundred million, and

869
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: they're like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we can't put five million dollars to buy the team. Fleeces,

871
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: you have to buy your own fleece's team because we

872
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: can't afford it. And we're all like, wait what, it's

873
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: true and we are going to be accused of Oh,

874
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: small market players always are looking for more money. It's

875
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: just about bringing it because this conversation is all about

876
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: bringing season ticket holders back. Create intrigue around your team,

877
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: don't create question marks of whether this owner of whether

878
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: your ownership group cares about winning or not.

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00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, and we hang up the phone. Let's lap

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00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: some news. Aaron Sanchez signed a minor league contract. Do

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00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: you guys remember Aaron Sanchez Kratz you do. We're a

882
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: teammate alert. He's going to try to crack camp with

883
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: the Royals and we're going to try to get him

884
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: on the show. I was actually sending messages to him

885
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: back and forth this morning and he says hello and

886
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: he loves you. It's a serious line back from him.

887
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: So he was a little busy. It was actually a

888
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: back and forth today. Clearly he was a little busy.

889
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: He's just signed a minor league contract today with Kansas City.

890
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: But we'll try to get him on the show Man.

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00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: He was good for a minute.

892
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: He was very good. It was he was very good prospect.

893
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: Later pick I want to do more research, but I

894
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: think there's a crazy story about how the blue Jays

895
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: actually got that pick, but I have to confirm it

896
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: before I tell the story. It's nothing about him, it's

897
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: more how the Blue Jays just canoodled this system. But yeah,

898
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: oh great teammate him and Stroman came up right around

899
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: the same time, and I got to see him both

900
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: in the minor league's a together, and you know, we

901
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: had a lot of really really fun conversations when you're

902
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: at the end of your career and someone is just

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00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: starting the new part of their career or their new

904
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: career in the big leagues.

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Speaker 1: Very cool. And then also, Dave Roberts wants to coach

906
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: Team USA, not in the World Baseball Classic. They already

907
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: have a manager. He wants to coach them, manage them

908
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eight at Dodger Stadium at the Olympics.

909
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: So he's already thrown his hat in.

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00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 2: Wait, how's that? How would that happen?

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00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: We're saying they have yet.

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00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, you have big league players, you have a

913
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: big league manager, but no big league players.

914
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: Well, if it happens, I think it's going to happen.

915
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: I think it's good.

916
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: It's going to happen.

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00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: Yes, so good for Dave Kratsats on the way up.

918
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: I mean we had Nolan on. I had to make

919
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: sure he knew new colors he's got to put in

920
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: his cleats. And Nolan, if you're still listening, you're not

921
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: that old. You're not that old. If you keep telling

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00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: yourself you're old, you can put these kinds of colors

923
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: on your cleats. Drip it up, get some get some super.

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00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: Drip Team Poland, if you'd.

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00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: Ever stop drip ever stop dripping, by the way, never have.

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Speaker 1: Told if you want to participate in the Olympics for baseball.

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00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: AJ's phone is tough to reach, but he will do it.

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00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: He will do it right.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I can connect you with the correct people.

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Speaker 2: I'll say that I'm a connector.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the most bottom