1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: And that's what you Really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 3: Welcome to you, and That's what you Really miss podcast. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 3: We have a warbler. 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: Like sort of the og Warbler. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, there's like a few of them, and 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 3: he's he's one of them. We have Kurt Mega here 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: nick Nick the Warbler. It looks like he had a name. 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 4: Yes, And we find out all kinds of things that 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 4: we did not know because, as you learned, the Warblers 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 4: were like very separate from the new directions in US 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 4: in terms of filming, location terms, even like schedules, yeah, everything. 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 4: Kurt is the sweetest, He's so talented and just great 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 4: to catch up with him. So here is Kurt Mega. 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Yoho, Hello, what's up? 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: How are you? 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good man a while? 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: Are the rumors true? Are you still working with Star Kid? 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're in. 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 5: We're like knee deep and we just started a new 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 5: show Monday. And I also do a lot of directing 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 5: and producing for them as well. So we did a 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 5: big old kickstarter for our last show. We just raised 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 5: like six hundred grand, which was, oh my god, amazing. 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 5: It was like our biggest one yet. 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: So it's great, honest, And. 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: Was that thanks to the like you guys meeting on 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: said and doing the Warblers that you got linked up with. 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 5: That first convo I ever had with Darren was like 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: him being like, oh dude, I'm running songs for the 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 5: show and I'm like, they're mad because I haven't finished everything. 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: Uh and yeah he was, he was. 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 5: Uh yeah, he was the one who introduced me to 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 5: all of them, and so yeah, it's kind of become 35 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 5: my like creative fan here in La. 36 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's rad. 37 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 5: And we're also making a first episodic thing that I'm 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 5: I'm co producing and directing. So yeah, it's like there's 39 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 5: so many ties to what I do. How to like 40 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 5: back then, it's it's kind of actually. 41 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 4: That's so good though. Also that was a very good 42 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: impression of Darren. Thank you, thank you. If you haven't 43 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: had a conversation with there, it was like, just do 44 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: this thing, but I didn't do it yet, but every time, 45 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: that's right, let's take it back to the beginning. 46 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: Yes, how did this all start out for you? 47 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys remember this at all, 48 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 5: but they did a MySpace contest. Ye, I don't know 49 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: if you're aware of shout out to Eddie who I know, 50 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: you know, Kevin Eddie Winkler, and he was like, hey, 51 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 5: I know, like it's a weird thing. Obviously I'd rather 52 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 5: you go in for it like regularly, but like why not, 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 5: why not just put yourself on tape for it? So 54 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 5: I did and uh, and then like months went by 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 5: and then I got a call out of the blue 56 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 5: one day and they were like, hey, like Udik wants 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 5: to see you like today, and so I was like, okay, So. 58 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: I went in. 59 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 5: That sounds right, And it was hard to figure out 60 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 5: initially what it was and I realized, Okay, I think 61 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 5: I'm testing for the show, and it was for it 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 5: was for the role that would become. And so that 63 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 5: was a weird week where like I went to Twentyeth 64 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 5: was working with like Brad Ellis on the piano. 65 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we were like doing all kinds of stuff. 66 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 5: Actually, once I once I once you I got the 67 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 5: email about this, I was like going through my voice 68 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 5: memos and I like found my like rehearsals singing like billionaire. 69 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: At like. 70 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then we did this, We did the fin 71 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 5: sides and then at that test there was like court obviously, 72 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 5: but there was like some other people there too. There 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 5: was my uh yeah, there's just a bunch of there's 74 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 5: like four or five of the guys there. And then 75 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 5: Tested was terrified because it was just like every at 76 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 5: the time, this is what's crazy is at the time, 77 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 5: that was like coming out of season one, and so 78 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 5: I mean it was the you know, it was like 79 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 5: I couldn't have matter. 80 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: It was the biggest thing on I. 81 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 5: It was very and I I had only been in 82 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 5: La for like a few months, so it was like, 83 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 5: oh my god, yeah, it's very intimidated. Yeah, and to 84 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 5: walk into a room with like and it was just everybody, 85 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 5: you know, and it went really well. And then and 86 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 5: they went to different direction obviously in Kor got the 87 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 5: part and he was great. At the time, it was 88 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 5: supposed to be it's supposed to be k Kurt's boyfriend. 89 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 5: That was the whole the whole thing they told us 90 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 5: of like this is the love interest or whatever. Anyway, 91 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 5: So then fast forward a few months later and then 92 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 5: I think I can't remember, but I think I also 93 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 5: taped for Blaine. 94 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Didn't get it. 95 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 5: And then and then once again in like November, I 96 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 5: got a call. 97 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: They were like, okay, so they want. 98 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 5: To see you today, and I went in, I read 99 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 5: for you know whatever Warbler, and then the next week 100 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 5: there I was on set. 101 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 3: So that the hustle, it sounds like so familiar to 102 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: a lot of the people that we've talked to. You're 103 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 3: not here for this one, but we'll bring you back 104 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: for this one. But they don't tell you that. 105 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: They knew they wanted you, just didn't know where you 106 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: fit in yet. Yeah, exactly. 107 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: Well what's also so weird is that when I you know, 108 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 5: when I first booked, I mean it was a one episode, 109 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 5: one line co. 110 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: Star, right, which is like, you know, I was stoked. 111 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 5: It's like, hey, I'm this is my it was my 112 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 5: first thing I'd ever done, like on camera at l 113 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 5: So I was just like, I'm just happy to be here. 114 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 5: And then and then that somehow turned into doing I 115 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 5: think it was like fifteen or sixteen episodes, and you know, 116 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 5: I got to sing and became a guest star and 117 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 5: stuff and got to go on tour with you. 118 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: Guys, which is, yeah, the coolest things I've ever done. 119 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 5: And yeah, and so in so many ways, it just 120 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 5: like was this thing that kept opening more and more doors. 121 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 5: It was sort of emotionally strange to never know where 122 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 5: where I was with it. 123 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: So every time you did an episode, it was just 124 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 3: that episode. 125 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we'd always we'd always be like, all right, well, 126 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 5: this has been fun, guys, and then and then you know, 127 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: they call us a few weeks later and you'd be like, 128 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 5: oh shit, we're back, We're back. 129 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: Crazy. 130 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 5: And then I remember at the Glee tour in LA 131 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 5: and Ryan pulled me aside and was like, I'm gonna 132 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 5: you're gonna have a song next season. I'm getting a song, 133 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 5: and I was like what and then and then it 134 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 5: happened and I got to do Uptown Girl. 135 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was just it was always a mystery. 136 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, never knew what I was. 137 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: Doing with the show. Wow. 138 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 5: But at the same time, I think it kind of 139 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 5: kept it kind of kept us sort of grateful and 140 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 5: just like, oh my god, we're back, and it never 141 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 5: felt like there was an expectation. 142 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: So yeah, at some point, like you guys became like 143 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: this your own entity on the show fully. 144 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 2: And like a real band. 145 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then only recently have like with this rewatch, 146 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: have we been like oh wow, like they were awesome 147 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: and I think we were just so wrapped up in 148 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: all of the chaos of it all that like you 149 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 3: was crazy, but you guys did like like talk shows 150 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 3: and like performances and like things out on the road. 151 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 3: Like it's just so crazy how it became this like oh, 152 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: your your own like little thing, it's so cool. 153 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 5: It was always I think that the challenging thing for 154 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 5: us was always we didn't I know, amongst like Riker 155 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 5: Entireis and Domino, those guys, like, we were always like, 156 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 5: we don't want to ever act like we're doing more 157 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 5: than we are. But then people would ask us to 158 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 5: come to things and we'd be like, is that is 159 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 5: that okay? 160 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: Like we're not. We're just we're just guests on the show. 161 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: We're not. And so it was always this strange kind 162 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: of pull and tug. 163 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 5: Of like I don't want to go out there and 164 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 5: be like, oh my god, I'm such It's like no, I'm, I'm, 165 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 5: i am. 166 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: We are in service of this much bigger thing. 167 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 5: But I think going on tour I think kind of 168 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 5: helped solidify a little bit of like, oh my god, 169 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 5: like we kind of feel like we belong a little 170 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: bit totally. Also doing tour, I had such a positive 171 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 5: experience doing that because it felt like the pressure of 172 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 5: you know, just the crazy hours and you know, as 173 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 5: you know, doing doing the show. 174 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys, it was crazy for us. 175 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 5: I can't even imagine what that was like for you 176 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 5: guys for so many years, but. 177 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: To tour felt like a chance to just just hang out. 178 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I had. 179 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 5: I had a blast and a lot of those relationships 180 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 5: for them, and I'm still I'm truly still like best 181 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 5: friends with like Titus and like domb and like those 182 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 5: are like some of my serious friends in the world. 183 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 5: So I think a lot of that chemistry that people 184 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 5: were responding to, even though we didn't have a lot 185 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 5: of a lot of dialogue or whatever. I think it 186 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 5: was just people responding to us actually being friends and 187 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 5: like having a blast together. 188 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: That's what I like to. 189 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: Think fully, and also being around you guys. That was 190 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 4: also the experience of when you were saying, you guys 191 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: were just like grateful to be there. You're like, sure, 192 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: this may be a one and done or maybe a 193 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: two and done, but it always. 194 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: Felt like that. 195 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: I never felt like you guys came in there and 196 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: we're like, we're the shit now, even though the Warblers 197 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 4: did become the shit. Yeah, and everybody wanted you guys 198 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 4: from the first episode, and so the last episode that 199 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 4: you guys were in, it always felt like the energy 200 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 4: from you guys was so wholesome and it was like 201 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: they're the nicest people and they check ourselves like we're 202 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: terrible people. 203 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: They're so nice and they're so good, and that chemistry 204 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: was very real. 205 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 4: And like seeing you guys on tour, you had your 206 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 4: own dressing room, it was very much It just felt 207 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: like the what was your a real band, like our 208 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: own little like cover bands together, Yeah, and were like 209 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 4: love each other and supported each other, and it was 210 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 4: really nice to just see that blossom between all of 211 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: you well. 212 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 5: And I always appreciated it. You know, it was I 213 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 5: think Darren. I I will always say this about Darren. 214 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 5: He would just every step chance he got, he would 215 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 5: go out of his way to like talk us up 216 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 5: to people. I remember, like, you know, we'd be on 217 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 5: set and you know, Ryana walked by and dared to 218 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 5: be like, oh, ry did you know like Rikers like 219 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 5: in his band is like they're they're doing a thing, 220 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 5: or did you know like Kurt's like he would just 221 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 5: like and you know that's and he could do that 222 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 5: for us because we were in this little group together, right, 223 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 5: And I just I remember thinking at the time, like 224 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 5: that really meant a lot to me because you know, 225 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 5: that's an intimidating. 226 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: Set to walk on. 227 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 5: If as a first thing, it's just a lot, you know, 228 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 5: And even now having done a lot of other television work, 229 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 5: nothing has ever come close to that level of like 230 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 5: just the scope and the pressure and the like. Actually, 231 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 5: no I did. I did an episode of nine one 232 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 5: one and it felt the same. 233 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: I was like, Ryan Show is basically we're back. 234 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 2: I've done this before. 235 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 5: I guess, well, it's like that sense of like there's 236 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 5: a lot of ship that has to get done in 237 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 5: a very short period of time like that that pressure 238 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 5: and so having somebody, having somebody there to kind of 239 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 5: just be that voice for us was just a really 240 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 5: really made that It was really it's a gift that 241 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 5: I'll never like, I'll never I'll never be not be 242 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 5: grateful for. 243 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: You know. It really did feel like the leader on 244 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: set and like on the screen totally. Yeah, of the Warblers, Yeah, 245 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: he was like, you're the dad. He took care of 246 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: It's just good energy all the time. 247 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 3: He was like he was actually genuinely happy to be there, 248 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 3: where us fools were like acting like yeah exactly. Darren 249 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: like was genuinely just happy to be there all the time. 250 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: And sometimes it's just so annoying because you're like just 251 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: shut up, like he's you're like too happy right now. 252 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 5: But I tell I'm one of my things that I do, 253 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 5: I just to joby job stuff is I'm I work 254 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 5: with a lot of actors, and I coach and I 255 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 5: teach a lot, and I'm always like, look like it's 256 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: awesome being on set. 257 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: It's it's great. It's great to book the job, but 258 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: it is a. 259 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 5: Grind that you don't know until you're there. I mean, 260 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 5: and it sounds like, oh, I'm just I'm doing it. 261 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 5: It's like yeah, but like cut to three four years 262 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 5: in and yeah, it's awesome, but it is a it's 263 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 5: a grind, man, and so yeah, I mean, and you 264 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 5: guys were just constantly I remember, you know, we were 265 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 5: just there to do our one song, but you guys 266 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 5: would be hopping into learn this choreo and then you're 267 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 5: off to shoot this scene and then you're you know, 268 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 5: just it was it. 269 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: Was a lot, and I don't. 270 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 5: I think a lot of times maybe people don't recognize 271 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 5: how challenging like product a production schedule really is. 272 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really nuts. 273 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: It's a whole different skill set that it's probably also 274 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: really good for you coaching people to have been on 275 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 4: a show with that grueling schedule, because it's like you 276 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: do all the acting prep, you do all that stuff 277 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 4: you know, to get the job, and then and there's 278 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: like how do I mediate my energy levels and all 279 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: of that on twelve hour sixteen hour days repeatedly hopefully 280 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 4: for years, right. 281 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: And it's also like not about being just oh it 282 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: was my take so good. 283 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 5: It's like, dude, just show up picture mark, do the thing, 284 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 5: and we can all go home early, like that's the job. 285 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 5: And a lot of people don't. I think it's it's 286 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 5: it's not indulgent, which which is like I think surprising 287 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 5: for a lot of artists who are like, wait, it's 288 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 5: not about me all the time. 289 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: It's like no challenging. 290 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: For actors to realize. 291 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: Speaking of schedules, like what was the Warblers schedule? Like 292 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: like from the time you would would you get this 293 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 3: full script or would you just get this song, Like 294 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: what was that like for you? 295 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 5: And completely varied, Like the first few episodes, it was 296 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 5: just like, hey, you're showing up at this time, and 297 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 5: here's the song you're doing. 298 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: But then like the first episode, Wow, I think what. 299 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 5: I did when I had when I sang when I 300 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 5: sang Uptown Girl, they like sent someone to my house 301 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 5: with a script and I was like. 302 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, drop them on the doorstep. 303 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 304 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 5: And so then we got a full script for that, 305 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 5: and then I think from then on because from that 306 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 5: point on, I was like contractually a guest star, and 307 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 5: then I started getting. 308 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: Scripts in advance. 309 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I don't know, it varied, but the schedule 310 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 5: was always interesting because I mean it would be often 311 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 5: maybe choreo the day before, maybe sometimes the day of, 312 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 5: and then I. 313 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: Remember long like an hour two hours. 314 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean maybe two three hours tight, And I think, 315 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 5: what too is? You know? I mean, Kevin, I know 316 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 5: you're an awesome dancer, Jenna, I don't know if you're 317 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 5: a dancer. 318 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: I actually don't know this. Are you a dancer? 319 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: I grew up I grew up dancing in the I'm 320 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: a theater dancer, So you know, I can like I 321 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: can pick up my moves. 322 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: That's about it. 323 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, need it. 324 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 5: Well, First that first few seasons, you know, our audition 325 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 5: was like step touch. 326 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: It was like great mine, step touch. 327 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 5: And then at some point they were like what if 328 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 5: they just all danced like full out and it was 329 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 5: like cool. 330 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: Then they started to bring in all these dancers who 331 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: are like so you think along. I remember like being like, uh. 332 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 5: Hey when we auditioned Loki, like we were not doing 333 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 5: this and Riker is an amazing dancer. 334 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: So Ryker was like I'm fine and I was like, okay, cool. 335 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: But the rest of. 336 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 5: Us and I remember like it getting progressively. And there 337 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 5: was one episode that Mandy Moore directed or not directed, choreographed, 338 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 5: and nobody told her this was the I think it 339 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 5: was the Love Songs. 340 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: One or whatever. 341 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 5: Nobody told us that several of us were movers at best, 342 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 5: and so I'll never forget. She got understandably frustrated because 343 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 5: she was like what why because she was just like 344 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 5: choreo and. 345 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: We meet there dancers, it was. 346 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: Like an hour before we were shooting. It was like 347 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: here's the combo. 348 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 5: And I remember like John and I who was like 349 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 5: the beatbox guy, and we're just in the back and 350 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 5: like yo I and uh so. 351 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: I. 352 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: It was so funny. 353 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 5: The more we went on, the less rehearsal we got. 354 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 5: I think at the beginning it was like assumed there'd 355 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 5: be more time. But I think the craziest day was 356 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 5: the Michael Jackson episode. 357 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: I think we did like mm hmmm. 358 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 5: It was like a bad five five six am call 359 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 5: and I think we wrapped it like I don't know, 360 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: it was. 361 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: Like two in the morn. It was. That was crazy. 362 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, in that party, everything on the day. 363 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: We all learned on the day too, so there was 364 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: just a lot of It was a lot of people 365 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: who's all the war wars. 366 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, all the directions. 367 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: It was very scary that one in that part exactly. 368 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, like we're all going to either succeed or fail 369 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: together and it's fine because it's all of us. Yeah. Yeah, 370 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: if I look bad, we all look bad. 371 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 5: But it's it was intense, like just you kind of 372 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 5: have this feeling before you'd roll a take where you'd 373 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 5: be like, I'm just gonna I don't know, I'm just 374 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 5: gonna go for it and and if the camera comes by, 375 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 5: whatever I'm doing, I'll do it strong and wrong, and 376 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 5: we'll hope that it works. 377 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: You know, thats just triggered a flashback in my head. 378 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: I do remember before take, like we were lined up 379 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 4: against you guys and looking at you guys, and we 380 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: all took like that sigh of like. 381 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna be what it's gonna be. 382 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. Hopefully we don't run into each other. 383 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 4: How was it when Grant showed up man over for 384 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, Darren Grants. 385 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 5: I mean I think there was always there was always that, 386 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 5: Like again, it was like we never knew what our 387 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 5: role was in the show, so that was very much 388 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 5: a surprise to a lot of us. We were like, 389 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 5: Grant's awesome. I love Grant, but you know, I think 390 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 5: a lot of us were like. 391 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: Are we going to step up to the plate this season? 392 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 5: And we're like it was a new guy, and it 393 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 5: was like okay, yeah, but dude, Grants, I mean, he's 394 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 5: he had just and he was so trained. He was 395 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 5: coming off the West Side story tour, you know, he 396 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 5: he just stepped into that with such grace and like 397 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 5: just nailed it and obviously he's done very well for himself. 398 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was great. 399 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean he was he also was like 400 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 5: really cool just to be like, hey, what what are 401 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 5: we doing here? Like help you know, what what's the vibe? 402 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 5: And we kind of help show in the ropes and stuff. 403 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 5: So yeah, it was but. 404 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: We never knew. 405 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 5: We never knew what was happening with our with us 406 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 5: or if we were going to do more. 407 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: We never knew. We'd always be like, we get the 408 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: script and we'd be like, do we have lines? 409 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It wasn't much different from me in. 410 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: J That's the weird part about television. 411 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 5: You know, it's like it's being written in a writer's room, 412 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 5: and you know, things change every day, and there would 413 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 5: be I mean there were things that were some people 414 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 5: would say, oh, hey, I think you guys might do this, 415 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 5: and then like it wouldn't happen. 416 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes it wouldn't. That's just the problem in the. 417 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: First draft and then by the time you get the 418 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: shooting draft, it's gone. 419 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just the song was recorded and we never 420 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: get seen. It's crazy. 421 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just that's like TV. 422 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: You know, since you came on so early in the 423 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: show and the Warblers were on pretty early in like 424 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: the height of you know, Glee's success, what was it 425 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 3: like like for you guys and the Warblers aside from 426 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: doing like all the cool you know, special appearances and 427 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: things like were your family and your friends to be 428 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: like and did you get recognized separately from that, like 429 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: especially it. 430 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 4: Was because it was your first thing basically and then 431 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 4: you yeah, got on this gigantic show part and part 432 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 4: of a gigantic part of the gigantic show. 433 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 5: I mean yeah, like Kevin and I are both from Dallas, 434 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 5: and like I was part of the Dallas theater community, 435 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 5: and you know, I mean that was the everyone watched 436 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 5: the show every week, you know, because I think that 437 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 5: what the show came out in eight or the pilot 438 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 5: tape debut and O eight is that yeah. 439 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, show nine we premiered, yeah. 440 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: Oh nine. 441 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 5: I remember like it would be like I mean I 442 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 5: was watching the show at friends places, and it was 443 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 5: like it was a thing that all the all theater 444 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 5: kids were like, you know, and I was like I 445 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 5: was just out of college and or I was I 446 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 5: left college early, so you know, everybody was watching it. 447 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 5: And so then I moved to LA in January of 448 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 5: twenty ten, and by that by that fall is when 449 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 5: I started working on it. 450 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: And yeah, it was. Yeah, I mean it was. It 451 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: was a huge deal. 452 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 5: It was like, wait, the show that we all watched 453 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 5: every week, you're on it, you know, very surreal and yeah, 454 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 5: I mean there was a ton of just a ton 455 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 5: of excitement and yes, but like Dallas, your local makes 456 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 5: it and I was like, well. 457 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: I'm on it. But you know, yeah, it was. It 458 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: was awesome. 459 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 5: And you know, even to this day, I mean I've 460 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 5: done I've done a lot of other things, but I mean, 461 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 5: to this day, truly, it is still a thing that 462 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 5: people are like, oh I love that, or you know, 463 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 5: I will watch it all the time. Right, people were 464 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 5: like I listened to Uptown Grown. I'm like, that's crazy. 465 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 5: It's like this one song I recorded so many years ago. 466 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 5: The fact that something that was a you know, like 467 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 5: I said, we were very small parts of the show, 468 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 5: but the fact that it changed my life basively, I 469 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 5: mean it literally it is the turning turning point, but 470 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 5: it is like the catalyst for so many things that 471 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 5: I'm even doing. So yeah, that that initial reaction back 472 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 5: then was you know, it was like it was cool 473 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 5: because also too, I you know, I'd only been here 474 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 5: for a few months and it was just like a 475 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 5: nice confirmation of like maybe I'm not maybe I'm not 476 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 5: crazy for thinking this is something I should try to do. 477 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: You know I can do this, So yeah, very meaningful. 478 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still pissed we didn't get to go to 479 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: Dallas on tour. 480 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: I know I would. 481 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 4: Before they announced the dates, I was like, please please. 482 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 4: I just envisioned it like we're at the American Airlines Arena. 483 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: Wasn't Airlines being like Redone or something at the time. 484 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: We just didn't go to the South at all. 485 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, do you know Pentatonics? 486 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I grew up with Scott and Mitch from 487 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 5: Pentatonic Theater together. Like our very first play ever was 488 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 5: we did a version of Don Quixote, but it's called 489 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 5: Don Coyote. I was a coyote. Mitchs the rab anyway, 490 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 5: But I remember like did a show a few years 491 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 5: later they played like some show in Dallas, and I was. 492 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: Like, that should have been us. 493 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: I wanted that so badly. It's like, can we just 494 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: do one more tour and then go through the South. 495 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 4: I gotta get them, I will say Dallas the Dallas. 496 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 5: Theater scene, like I I I don't live there anymore, 497 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 5: but Uh. I think the art scene in Dallas is 498 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 5: really cool and there's a real it is like theater 499 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 5: and music are such a vibrant part of of of 500 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 5: the culture there and uh yeah, so. 501 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was. It was pretty cool that. 502 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 5: I was on the show because it was like especially 503 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 5: and people also knew that you were from Dallas, Kevin, 504 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 5: so it was like wow, two people. 505 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 3: So they made it. 506 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 4: There was may time at the end of thee I 507 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 4: was testing for another show and it was me and 508 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 4: another guy and I, like, you know, was getting the 509 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 4: dirt on who it was, and he was also from Plano, 510 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 4: and I was like, what is happening? Yeah, I was 511 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 4: thinking about Yeah, it's like the only other person, like 512 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 4: all the Dallas people just give me the job. I 513 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: read the computer place, come on to town and everybody 514 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 4: else he got it though, so good for him whatever. 515 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: But there's been like growing up there was always such 516 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 4: a huge It's funny because I feel like the South 517 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 4: is you hear a lot of I don't know, negative 518 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 4: things sometimes when it comes to the arts and things 519 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: like that. But Dallas specifically especially downtown, has always had 520 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 4: such a big investment in all forms of art and 521 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: even now when I go back, it's even more than 522 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 4: it was. And it is a really amazing thing that 523 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 4: they've done. 524 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 5: That Dallas like theater kids, man, I mean they are 525 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 5: like trained and it is like, I mean, there is 526 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 5: a high level of there's a lot of opportunities there, 527 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 5: you know. And so I was part of a I 528 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 5: don't know if you know, like there was like Kasamyana 529 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 5: and there was like Dallas Theater Center. I was part 530 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 5: of a theater school called Cats, and so there's just 531 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 5: kind of like where do you belong? 532 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: And that's where like Scott and Mitch from. 533 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 5: And yeah, I consider I sometimes think about how how 534 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 5: lucky I am to have been to have grown up 535 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 5: in an environment because I think people are like Texas, 536 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 5: what was that like? And I'm like, actually, in terms 537 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 5: of having a place, the Foster creatively was pretty awesome. 538 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: A lot of other things about Texas that we don't 539 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: have to go into. 540 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 4: But the art in Dallas and the arts in Dallas 541 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 4: is pretty good. Yes, there's a lot of acting schools. 542 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 4: It's crazy, there's like performing arts schools all over the place. 543 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: You wouldn't think. 544 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: It, but it's great for that. 545 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally specifically. 546 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: So I mentioned earlier that you know, we rewatching it. 547 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: We've had this newfound appreciation for the Warblers and the 548 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 3: songs that you guys did. We just watched My Dark Side. 549 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: What a banger, so good, one of my favorites. It's 550 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: so good. You guys are great. Do you have a favorite? 551 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 3: I would imagine that you know, Uptown Girl is probably 552 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: one of your favorites to have done, because you know 553 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 3: you played such a big part in it. But like, 554 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: are there other songs that like stick out in your 555 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: mind or performances from the Warblers? 556 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say I think I was so nervous 557 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 5: about Uptown Girl that like, in hindsight, I'm proud of it, 558 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 5: but I was so nervous on the day because I 559 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 5: felt like, don't this is your one shot. So I 560 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 5: think my experience on the day was just don't blow it. 561 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 5: I think the one that sticks out was when we 562 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 5: did Raise Your Glass. 563 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: Uh, it was like I was it was at it was. 564 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 5: At that theater we shot it in Glendale and m hm, 565 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 5: I remember it was like the first time that we 566 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 5: had gotten to perform on set where there was like 567 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 5: a bunch of people in the audience. I'm sure that 568 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 5: already happened for you guys, but to just and I 569 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 5: think there was like a contest that day where like 570 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 5: a bunch of fans also got a chance to be 571 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 5: there in the in the upper part. 572 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: Of the balcony. Yeah, and there was like you know. 573 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 5: They were obviously being told to cheer, but to do 574 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 5: that number and to actually feel this kind of energy, 575 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 5: it was definitely like, oh my god, this is really cool. 576 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 5: I think that was the moment it felt like it 577 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 5: was real that we were on the show because prior 578 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 5: to that and it was kind of like what are 579 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 5: we even doing here? And our stuff was at a 580 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 5: different location, so it was kind of. 581 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: Just, yeah, this extra removed. Yeah. 582 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 5: I think I'd only been maybe to the set at 583 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 5: Paramount like once like in the process, and so you know, 584 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 5: because we were at we were at Dalton, and so 585 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 5: that we felt like we were here with you guys 586 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 5: and there was this crowd and yeah, I think that 587 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 5: that kind of solidified like, oh my god, this is awesome. 588 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 5: And we also got to do that on tour and 589 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 5: I love doing that song on tour. So that's the 590 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 5: one that I always think of when I think about 591 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 5: my memory of doing the show. I think about like 592 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 5: being on stage doing that number in front of in 593 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 5: front of the crowd, that's the one that always sticks up. 594 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 4: How surreal was it doing that on tour because you 595 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 4: also came in. I got a point in the show too, 596 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 4: where like we had been out there a while and 597 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 4: you guys come out and just sort of take over 598 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: and do like a three song set and everyone went crazy. 599 00:25:59,359 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 2: Every single night. 600 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: I can't. I still think about it and I go, 601 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: did that happen? 602 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: Like it just. 603 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 5: The concept of a TV show that gets big enough 604 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 5: to do a tour that sold out. 605 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: We were also baffled. 606 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, like you know, I knew it was happening, but 607 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 5: I almost like it was hard to take it in 608 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 5: in the moment because you're just like, what's happened? 609 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: Like this is crazy? 610 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 5: And yeah I remember I remember like opening night in 611 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 5: Vegas just being on our little stage in the back, 612 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 5: you know, and. 613 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: People lost their when I was like, this is nuts. 614 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: I just it really it was so surreal. 615 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 5: Because I just I kept thinking like, wow, I was 616 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 5: supposed to do like one line on this show, and 617 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 5: here like I get to be on stage, you know, 618 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 5: going to London. 619 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: I just when I think about it. Now, I go, 620 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: did that happen? Like, because I don't think any. 621 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 5: I cannot think of another situation where a show will 622 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 5: do that again, like like where the where the stars 623 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 5: will align and where you will have that kind of 624 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 5: fan reaction that like this just took a strange and 625 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 5: cool thing that happened in this. 626 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: Little capsule of time. Yeah, it's amazing. 627 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 4: And there were so many of us, like I think 628 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 4: we were so lucky to travel with, like the whole family. 629 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 4: It was you guys and all the dancers and Alex 630 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: d and then us, and it was. 631 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 5: I feel like I get to I got to know 632 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 5: you guys much more on that because you know, on 633 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 5: set like it, Yeah, I'm very fragmented, and I felt 634 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 5: like they're the pressure of doing I mean we're still 635 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 5: doing a show obviously, but the pressure. 636 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: Of like the crazy it was gone. 637 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 5: I just feel like we all got to get to 638 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 5: know each other in a much more chill way. And Yeah, 639 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 5: I had such such a positive experience throughout that whole thing. 640 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 5: It was just it was so good And and again 641 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 5: I can't I'm also aware of how long ago it 642 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 5: was because whenever I was tagged in some videos recently, 643 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 5: and I like clicked the videos and like all the 644 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 5: videos are like three sixty p and you're like, shit. 645 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: That was like a long time ago. 646 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, the quality of the video reminds you how distant that. 647 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: Yes, it makes you remind you how old you are. 648 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: It's interesting though, because I never thought about it that way. Like, 649 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: you know, as you worked yourself up to a guest star, 650 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: you know, and got to be a part of it, 651 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: you have like recurrs on our show. Also that like 652 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: didn't get to go on tour with us, didn't get 653 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: the extra like I think about like Max Adler and 654 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 3: Josh Sussman and all those like and Lauren Potter, all 655 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: those amazing you know characters on our show that were 656 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: played such an integral part and then like actually didn't 657 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: get to go on tour. And you guys, you know, 658 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 3: had this own you became your own entity and character, right, 659 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: but then got to like do all the fun stuff 660 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: too outside of it. 661 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why we were just like pinching ourselves because 662 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 5: I was like, we shouldn't be here like in terms of. 663 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: The just the arc of the show. 664 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 5: But but for whatever reason, the energy, you know, the 665 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 5: vibe moving forward, it kind of made sense, and yeah, 666 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 5: I just I remember I think Darren said it, like 667 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 5: was like we were like we always tick a shot 668 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 5: backstage before we went on Teenage Dream, and I remember 669 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 5: like having that moment at the last show of like 670 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 5: I don't think anything like this will ever happen again, 671 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 5: so like how cool is this? You know? And I 672 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 5: will say on tour, I always talking about starkt At 673 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 5: the beginning, I remember we were in Chicago and I think, like, 674 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 5: I don't know, everybody went out to some place. It 675 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 5: was some some nightclub or some people were like hanging out, 676 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 5: and I think Darren texted us and was like he 677 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 5: texted the WARBA guys and was like, hey, ditch that 678 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 5: party and come meet my like star kid friends because 679 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 5: they were all in Chicago at the time. And I 680 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 5: remember that night is when I went we like we 681 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 5: left and we went to he was having a party 682 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 5: with like all of his stark kid friends, and that's 683 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 5: where I met literally all the people that I now 684 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 5: I literally see every single day of my life and 685 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 5: I work with creatively. Like that night is when I 686 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 5: like met all these people. So that tour kind of 687 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 5: kind of led to that as well. 688 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, what. 689 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: Talk about that? 690 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 4: What you like getting into Stark kid? What was that 691 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: transition sort of like I guess was that during Glee 692 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 4: or after Glee of because you're also doing multiple things. Yeah, 693 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 4: you're acting and producing and directing. 694 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 5: What what's so funny about the Tarket thing is we 695 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 5: got invited The Warblers got invited to some like fan conventions, 696 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 5: but the fan conventions were Harry Potter themed, which makes 697 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 5: no sense aside from Darren because of a Harry Potter connection. 698 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 5: So it was this weird initial thing where and I 699 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 5: remember like going to these conventions being like what are 700 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 5: we doing here? Like they're gonna hate us. They're not 701 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 5: here to see the war. 702 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: Like, they're here to see Harry Potter people. 703 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 5: And I remember we went to this one convention and 704 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 5: Evana Lynch was there. She played Luna and Harry Potter, 705 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 5: and they like just announced that the Warblers were gonna sing. 706 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 5: We were like, first of all, please don't call us that, 707 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 5: because we're not endorsing that, like we're just here as us. 708 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: Secondly, why like what are we going to sing? And 709 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: so I like I text the guys. 710 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 5: I was like, hey, we got to make this like 711 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 5: Harry Potter theme somehow. So we did like a I 712 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 5: wrote like a stupid version of what makes You Beautiful, 713 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 5: but as like what makes You Magical? Like we were 714 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 5: singing to Luna. We went on stage, we did it 715 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 5: and it was like in that moment everybody went, oh, 716 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 5: you guys are cool and it was like fun and 717 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 5: we were all like we kept getting invited back year 718 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 5: after year. Well every year Star Kid would also be 719 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 5: there doing like panels and shows and stuff, and so 720 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 5: we would always be in the green room together kind 721 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 5: of just hanging out and I Darren and so I'd 722 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 5: be like, oh, hey, I know Darren, and you know, 723 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 5: I'd met a lot of them whatever, and so over 724 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 5: the years we just got to hang out and then 725 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 5: a lot of them started to move to LA And 726 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 5: then in twenty sixteen, some of the guys who worked 727 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 5: with Darren on a show him, Joey, Brian and Corey. 728 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 5: They did actually Joey Joey was in what was that group, 729 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 5: the Adams Apples. Yeah, he was in that one where 730 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 5: they did they did the Big Butt song. So we 731 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 5: did a show called Spiser Forever, which is a like 732 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 5: gig comedy spy musical and it's awesome, it's I love 733 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 5: it amazing. That went on amazing, kind of become a 734 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 5: cult thing on the internet. And then from there, a 735 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 5: few years later, I was asked to audition, and and 736 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 5: then I started to do more stuff and produce and direct, 737 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 5: and now I'm doing my this is my like seventh 738 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 5: project that we're doing right now. 739 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: So wow, kind of. 740 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 5: An organic like you live here, I live here, let's 741 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 5: let's make stuff together. 742 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, why not have you been enjoying doing like 743 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 4: the behind the scenes stuff, the writing and directing and producing. 744 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. 745 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 5: I mean I made I made my first I finished 746 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 5: my first feature as a director last year, and and 747 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 5: then I do a lot of we we also produce 748 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 5: all of our shows we do. We we shoot them 749 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 5: like a pro shot, and we put them on YouTube 750 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 5: later for free, which is cool. And so I got 751 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 5: to direct to the film version of a show last year. 752 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: And I love it. Man, I you know, I think 753 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: I love. 754 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 5: I'm still I still love acting. I wish I wish 755 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 5: I didn't. 756 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: I still there's some of us. I still love it, 757 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 3: some of you out there. 758 00:32:59,200 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: I'm so glad. 759 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 5: But I will say I think being a filmmaker has 760 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 5: become I go, oh my god, I don't have to 761 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 5: wait for anybody to give me permission to do anything. 762 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 763 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 5: So that's and that's the cool thing about like Star 764 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 5: Kit and all these groups that I've gotten to work with, 765 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 5: is it's just a lot of people taking ownership of 766 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 5: their creativity and being like, let's just do a thing 767 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 5: and you know, that's awesome. That's it's that's amazing. Uh So, yeah, 768 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 5: I I love doing it. It's it's it's kind of 769 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 5: my favorite thing that I get to do now. Even 770 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 5: like even when I get to work on shows or whatever, 771 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 5: I'm like, this is fine, I want to go make 772 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 5: stuf with. 773 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: Me like that. 774 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 4: But once you know the freedom of being in control 775 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 4: and getting to do what you want, it's hard to Yeah, 776 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 4: and see that. I love hearing how close you are too, 777 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 4: like like the friendships, the co working relationships, all that through, 778 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 4: because I think that resonates with anyone we've had on 779 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 4: here to talk about working on the show show for 780 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 4: Jenna and myself, like the relationship mine is like the relationships, 781 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 4: and I think it is probably because of the pressure cooker, 782 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 4: the uniqueness of the situation that we all bonded over 783 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 4: this thing, especially you guys getting to go on tour, 784 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 4: which is so hard to explain to people, like the 785 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: gravity of that of how those things feel unless you're 786 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 4: inside of it to really know. And it's just so 787 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: nice to I also think, you know, the people who 788 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,959 Speaker 4: like that show will watch that show. It's a certain 789 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 4: type of person who like understands the creativity or the 790 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 4: musical theater of it and the celebration of the arts 791 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 4: in that way. So it's just nice that you get 792 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: to work with people you met through it and y' 793 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 4: still so close to people from it. 794 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 5: Really, I mean, it really is that. It's the greatest 795 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 5: gift that came from that for me. You know, it's 796 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 5: like I didn't you know. I've always tried to be 797 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 5: very clear with people. I remember, like back in the day, 798 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 5: people like on Twitter and stuff would be like, you're 799 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 5: not really in the show, You're barely in it. I'd 800 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,479 Speaker 5: be like, yeah, I know, I. 801 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 2: Know, that's fine, Twitter, I know, yeah. 802 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: Better. 803 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 5: I always try to be clear that like, yes, I 804 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 5: know that, but the show has still given me. 805 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: It's changed my life. 806 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, the relationships to friendships, the opportunities that the doors 807 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 5: that in many ways, it still continues to open. You know. 808 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 5: It's like a lot of those initial opportunities to do 809 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 5: stuff was because I could say I'm on Glee, people 810 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 5: will go okay, which warranted or not. It opened the 811 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 5: door and allowed me to try stuff and discover new 812 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 5: outlets of creativity. So it's like that gift alone, I'm 813 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 5: like truly life changing. 814 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: You know. 815 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think people don't also understand, like, Okay, sure, 816 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 4: if you weren't speaking every episode, that does not mean 817 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 4: you weren't there crazy hours many hours in doing things. Yeah, 818 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 4: Like people don't understand the work that goes into it. 819 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 4: And it's like even if you're on the show for 820 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 4: one night, you're still on the show. 821 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: The show. 822 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 2: It's a full team effort. 823 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: And I had one nine a lot like all the time. 824 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: I just got paid a lot more. But like, shut up, 825 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, it's just annoying. Yeah, Yeah, everybody deserved 826 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: to be there, So you know, you deserve to be 827 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 3: there as much because you guys. 828 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: Are on it. 829 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. 830 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you guys were so you guys were like 831 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 5: so kind to us to like just to like, you know, 832 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 5: because stepping into that world again, it was an intimidating. 833 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: Proposition of like, oh my god, I've I've. 834 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 5: Seen the show and you know, I've seen these people 835 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 5: win a war, you know, and and then there was 836 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 5: just kind of an instantaneous like oh cool, awesome, yeah, 837 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 5: and I remember it was a very disarming and like 838 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 5: it did not feel like stepping into like oh you 839 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 5: better step up your game. It just felt like, oh, hey, 840 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 5: we're like here doing the same thing. And yeah, yeah, 841 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 5: it was. It was just like a chillness to the 842 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 5: vibe with you guys, despite the pressure of what the circumstances. Yeah, 843 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 5: there was just like an easygoingness that you know that 844 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 5: I experienced with all you guys that just made made 845 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 5: me go, I am. 846 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: On this show. Cool. 847 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I don't have to pretend and like, 848 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 5: I don't know, yeah, it was, it was, it was awesome. 849 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 2: That's excity. 850 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, we never know. We caught us on a bad 851 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 4: day because there's also like there's no point in like 852 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 4: I don't know gate keeping anything. It's like we all 853 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 4: got hired, we're not running the show. We're grateful to 854 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 4: be there. You guys are grateful to be there, and 855 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 4: we know what a slog schedule could be. So it's 856 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 4: like what's the point of ego? Like just everybody just 857 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 4: wanted to work. Everybody earned it, everybody got here. Yeah 858 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 4: because Robert and Ryan and whoever said yes, So like great, Yeah, 859 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 4: who are we to be like like, no, we are. 860 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: Hired just like you did. 861 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 862 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 5: I've definitely worked on shows where sometimes like leads are 863 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 5: are you know, household names like house don't don't speak 864 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 5: to that person, don't look at that person, you know, 865 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 5: and it's like. 866 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: Okay, cool. 867 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 5: It's hard, and you kind of feel like you're always 868 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 5: like I'm always on the and you know, I swear 869 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 5: that my first episode was when we shot at that 870 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 5: that theater in Glindall, which is crazy because I lived 871 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 5: down the street at the time, so I literally walked. 872 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: And I remember just kind of being like we gonna 873 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: fit in. 874 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 5: And then you know, you guys were just like, oh hey, cool, yeah, awesome, 875 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 5: and it was like, oh, all right, this feels like 876 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 5: doing a show or something. So you know, there was 877 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 5: a disarming nous to to the fact that you guys 878 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 5: were like accepting of us, despite again despite the pressure. 879 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: Of like oh god, we have to be on camera 880 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: now and do it. 881 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 4: But right, I mean, we were only a year into 882 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 4: it too, you know, like we it wasn't that long 883 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 4: before that we also were. 884 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, this is crazy. Yeah, and it 885 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 2: still was very much crazy. Yeah, exactly, it is. 886 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 5: It is weird how you could this the craziness is 887 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 5: craziness of it all becomes very normal and surreal at 888 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 5: the same time, where it's like you can in one 889 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 5: hand you're like, this is just my life. I'm just 890 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 5: this is what I do. And then and then you're like, 891 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 5: this is insane. It's it's a strange thing. It's a 892 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 5: strange thing as as. 893 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 4: A and then it feels very surreal that the craziness 894 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 4: feels normal. Yes, yes, you check yourself. You're like, oh yeah, sure, 895 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 4: we're going to go oprah on. 896 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 3: Famous people go crazy, you know what I mean. There's 897 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 3: just it's like a lot of it's a mental load. 898 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: It's like a mind fuck. Yeah, before we let you go, 899 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 3: I want to know the feeling that Glee leaves you with. 900 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 5: I really don't mean this to sound cheesy, but I 901 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 5: really like I would say gratitude, because when I think 902 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 5: about it sometimes I have these feelings of like, oh God, 903 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 5: I wish I you know, did I could I have 904 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 5: done more to impress certain people to get a bigger 905 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 5: role whatever, and then all that goes away when I 906 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 5: go hold on, I got to do this incredible thing, 907 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 5: and I got to meet all these people that I'm 908 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 5: now still getting to make stuff with and often making 909 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 5: this stuff with now that I'm the most proud of. 910 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 5: And so I think that the biggest takeaway I have 911 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 5: is like gratitude. I think at the time it was 912 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 5: in the middle of it, I felt a little anxious 913 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 5: of like, am. 914 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 1: I doing enough? I am? I am I performing whatever? 915 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: And now I'm just like that was awesome. Yeah, wow, 916 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: I believe I did that. 917 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 5: So I'd say gratitude because it, you know, it really 918 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 5: did change my life and continues to in many ways. 919 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 2: That's not cheesy. Oh amen to that. 920 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 3: I like that one. 921 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: That was good. 922 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for taking the time to 923 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: come on and chat with us. And it was so 924 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 3: good to see you again. It's so good to see you, 925 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 3: and like congrats and all the star kits. Yes, thank you, 926 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 3: that's amazing. 927 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It's cool. 928 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 5: I feel really lucky that we get to like make 929 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 5: stuff and pay ourselves. 930 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: It's great. 931 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the dream. 932 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 3: Dream job. 933 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, work with your friends, work at people you love 934 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 4: and trust, and make money to do it well doing 935 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 4: it can't get better than that. Well, thanks, Kurt, thank 936 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 4: you so much. 937 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 938 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 3: I mean and truly, like Kurt was, they really were 939 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 3: so did from us, Like it was really such a 940 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 3: different experience. Like they shot at that beautiful Red Cross 941 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 3: was it the Red Cross? I think so in like Pasadena, 942 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 3: and it was so pretty to visit, but imagine that 943 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 3: being their home, like paramounts our home. It's so so different, 944 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 3: and we really were very separated from them. So it 945 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 3: was very cool to hear from him. 946 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 4: It's it's very much akin to you know, when Chris 947 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 4: and Leah started to go to the New York sets stuff, 948 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 4: but they were at least still on Paramount. Like these 949 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 4: were people we didn't know very well and they never 950 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 4: shot where we shot, so we never saw them. And 951 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 4: then the show comes out and you see how successful 952 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 4: they're being, Like that's crazy, that's still part of. 953 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 2: The same show. And we have little to interaction with them. 954 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 3: Until Darren like really started dating, you know, Layne and 955 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 3: Kurt started really dating, and then he joined the New directions. 956 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 3: We didn't even get like a lot of him, so 957 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 3: like imagine you know these guys not being in the 958 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 3: glee club at all. 959 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're such a wholesome bunch, Like truly, no, they 960 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 4: really are. I remember sometimes being like, they can't be 961 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 4: that happy all the time. 962 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 3: I know, and they were. It's like Darren were You're 963 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 3: like you guys, like are you It felt vake right, 964 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 3: You're like that can't be real. But they really were 965 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 3: so great. 966 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 4: They were so grateful, And it's also one of those 967 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 4: weird things of Darren was like the perfect personality type 968 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 4: to be with them, Like they all fit together. And 969 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 4: I think again the magic of Robert and UdK casting 970 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 4: of like they really put all of them together in 971 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 4: such a smart and sustainable way that makes us set happy, 972 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 4: that makes all those the time you actually spend filming 973 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 4: is so little compared to the time you spend not 974 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 4: filming on set. And to create a happy environment and 975 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 4: happy workplaces I think really hard. And I think Robert, 976 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 4: whether intentionally or not, really did a great job with 977 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 4: all of us of making it a really happy workplace, 978 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 4: balancing those personalities. You know, Yes, Kurt, it was so 979 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 4: good to talk to you. Thank you for coming on. 980 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 2: Everybody. 981 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 4: Look out for all the new Starket projects he's working on, 982 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 4: because that just sounds incredible. 983 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 2: Yes, hope you guys enjoyed this episode. We'll see you 984 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 2: next week and that's what you be they missed. 985 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 4: Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at and 986 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,919 Speaker 4: that's what you really miss pod. 987 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 2: Make sure to write us a review and leave us 988 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 2: five stars. See you next time.