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Speaker 1: Part of the reason I love the game of football

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Speaker 1: is like the brotherhood you build between your teammates. Like

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Speaker 1: I never had a brother growing up, so it was

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Speaker 1: always like kind of searching for that connection, and the

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Speaker 1: I got like this kind of connection with these running

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Speaker 1: backs is like it's like I'm their big brother, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm their protector. Like You're not going to get to

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Speaker 1: me until you go through him. Like it gives me

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Speaker 1: chills just thinking about it. Protector. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to go run through a wall. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler,

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Speaker 2: and we're on a mission to find the greatest game

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Speaker 2: of all time. And on today's episode, we are covering

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl fifty two Eagles versus Patriots with former IVY

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Speaker 2: League defensive lineman, legendary fullback and one of the toughest

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Speaker 2: dudes I've ever played with, James Devlin, and we get

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Speaker 2: into talking what makes the fullback position so special?

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Speaker 1: Lord of the rings that orc that they send in

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Speaker 1: there with a bomb. He's like, what my role was?

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Speaker 1: Wilball orders, But I like to just go with like

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Speaker 1: what they've made, their bread and butter, pretzels and hokies.

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Speaker 2: His thoughts on the Philly Special.

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Speaker 1: It's just one of those things. Man. It's like the

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Speaker 1: thorn that you can never get out of your side.

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Speaker 1: And then we hit the chill line.

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Speaker 2: In this week's Chill Zone presented by cors Light, you

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Speaker 2: gotta stick around to the very end. Let's go Games

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Speaker 2: with Names, a production of iHeartRadio February for twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: US Bank Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Patriots are a game away from back to back Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl championships.

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Speaker 2: But Nick Fooles and the Philadelphia Eagles have a few

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Speaker 2: tricks up their sleeve. This is a Philly Special.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: You we ready, Hayley, keep this thing six inches. You

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Speaker 2: can move, but keep this six.

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Speaker 1: Inches all right? That's six inches perfect? How do you

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Speaker 1: know half it?

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Speaker 2: You know? Roughly? Today we are looking at Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: fifty two Eagles versus the Patriots with old James Devlin James,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the nuthouse. In one sentence, why did you

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Speaker 2: pick this game?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Being a Philly boy, this is just something that's never

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Speaker 1: really sat well with me. And I'm also a glutton

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Speaker 1: for punishment. So I'd like to just watch fucking misery.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think that's that's one sentence. I'll

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Speaker 1: leave it there, brown Man. Yeah, that's a pro. That's

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Speaker 1: a pro. Is this the greatest game of all time?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 1: No, but it's close. Okay, it's up there. What is

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Speaker 1: the greatest game of allth AFC Championship twenty eighteen. But

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Speaker 1: you've done it twice already. Yes, that was my favorite

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Speaker 1: game I've ever I've ever participated in. Yeah, I mean shit,

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Speaker 1: it had everything. Why when we were running the ball, toughness, cold,

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Speaker 1: everyone was against us in that stadium, and then just

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Speaker 1: a resiliency for us to make the plays when we

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Speaker 1: needed to, their attempt at coming back, the back and

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Speaker 1: forth and back and forth, and then the overtime drive

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Speaker 1: I think was just you know, all the third downs

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Speaker 1: but the week before against the Chargers a few times,

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Speaker 1: thirty five goal line lead, and then we fucking won

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Speaker 1: the game against the Rams on the same play. That's

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Speaker 2: Is thirty five full back lead.

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Speaker 1: Goal line lead? You don't know you were?

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Speaker 2: Now, when you had when you just said insertion point,

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Speaker 1: and you know, let the better man win. But there's

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Speaker 2: Is that what coach Scar says by resetting the line

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Speaker 1: We're gonna move this fucking wall, but then you got

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Speaker 2: Now, if linemen are like F three fifty pickup trucks,

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Speaker 1: Well, you fucking address that with Dave a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: I know, but what are you? I believe in F

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Speaker 1: getting into like you know that that sweet spot right now.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like you getting into the league. Talk

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Speaker 1: You went to the re explain this journey. Sure, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: So coming out of Brown University, being like the definition

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Speaker 1: d I mean I wasn't big enough to play defensive line.

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Speaker 2: You know who else went? You know, Ryan Fitzpatrick went

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Speaker 1: Year is this twenty ten? So day Ball was a

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Speaker 5: Don't sleep on the twenty ten Tousters. Man, they got

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Speaker 2: You're not are you You're you're a Sheets guy?

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding? How could you even ask that thing?

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Speaker 2: What is this? What's our smooth show called soulberry.

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Speaker 1: they're perfectly seasoned, and every once in a while I'll

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Speaker 4: These are just the salts, it's not the These can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have some ten year old smelling salts. And

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now touss that back to me. Actually wouldn't mind it.

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Speaker 2: Man, she's a fucking Jenny Lill Jenny. Jimmy always talking

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Speaker 1: Hey, you know Jenny, Jenny, Jenny the best, absolutely love.

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Speaker 1: her in probably five plus years. And she since like

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Speaker 1: high school, went to Temple, cheered for the Sixers, did

434
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. She was working at marketing down

435
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: at the casinos in ac and living living in Brigantine,

436
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: and I remember seeing her on the beach for the

437
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: first time and I was like, God, damn, Jenny, Jenny,

438
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: Jenny grew up. And then I drove those to her

439
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: two friends home and I was at my neighbor's house

440
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: and he just passed away. Rest in peace, Kevin case

441
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: but uh he. I was just talking to him and

442
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: I said, hey, you know, if I had to marry

443
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: someone right now, it would be Jenny Waddington. That was

444
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: her maiden name. And then fucking manifested that shit again. Man,

445
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: it made it happen. This got me thirteen years, four kids. Man,

446
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: it's fucking beautiful.

447
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful. They're a beautiful couple American loves. We

448
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: got to make that a movie. Honestly, I think we're

449
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: gonna make that a Philly Philly movie. Like, yeah, how

450
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: much football we still watching these days?

451
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: I mean youth football at time?

452
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 2: You watching Pros?

453
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still watch the Pros as much as I can.

454
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: I mean my kids will play on Sundays, which sometimes

455
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: gets a little tricky, but definitely watching. I mean, the

456
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: Eagles are are in prime condition right now to watch them,

457
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: and my kids are big time fans at the Eagles.

458
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: I think they're still loyal. They're like Patriots one A,

459
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: Eagles one B. Right now. You guys are in af

460
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: Phillies exactly, so they can't not be they can't like

461
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 1: buck that trend. But they'll still wear like Patriots jerseys

462
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: and shit today year and stuff. Yeah, but it is

463
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: a fun time to grow up an Eagles fan, which

464
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: is like one of the reasons I wanted to bring

465
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: up this game was like I was die hard Eagles

466
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: for twenty one years growing up until I kind of

467
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: made that jump to the NFL, right, and so like

468
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: now seeing and I also grew up in a great

469
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: time of Eagles football, you know, when they were making it,

470
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: making it to the NFC Ship Championship four years in

471
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Speaker 1: a row, mcnaw Westbrook trot or like that whole kind

472
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: of old school style football. Brian Dawkins. Yeah, I mean

473
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: that motherfucker dude. Yeah he was.

474
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 2: I saw a floater for like three weeks after that.

475
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah he would, man. But yeah, so I'm just I'm

476
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: I'm happy that my kids get to experience that just

477
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: like I did.

478
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you watching the Pats at all, what are our thoughts?

479
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're they're like young, They're just

480
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: trying to kind of build their identity. But I think

481
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: in time we just need a little bit more time,

482
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: like to build the consistency time on task we need.

483
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: We need some continuity, you know. I think the leaders

484
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: like when we were in New England, there was such

485
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: a like passing of the of the torch from year

486
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: after year after year, we had like the core group,

487
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: and that core group has all kind of been dismantled.

488
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: But they're starting to build a new core now. So

489
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: you just need time. You need like shared experience so

490
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 1: you can like look in people's eyes and know what

491
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: the fuck to expect from them and in these like

492
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: hard moments, and I think that'll come over time, and

493
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: you just right now, you're just kind of in that

494
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: building phase, right. So I got full confidence in uh

495
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Speaker 1: in coach Frable and what he's doing. I think he's

496
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: a he's an intelligent guy that brings good energy, good intensity,

497
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: expects a lot and so I'm I'm excited for him. Man,

498
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: we just need to give him the time that they deserve.

499
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: They had one brock Lampy, but he got hurt in camp.

500
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: I think he broke his foot finished practice though, so

501
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: he got got a little got a little grit to him.

502
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: But now yeah, they're using like a tight end Jack

503
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: west Over and he's a good dude. He's a he's

504
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: he's a good kid. But yeah, they're bringing it back.

505
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: Josh always likes to use it. It's it's a nice

506
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: piece to play this chess game that we call football,

507
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, And so I think, is it a nice piece?

508
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: Well funny u ass. I just think that it allows

509
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: for a lot of It allows for a lot of

510
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: versatility as an offense. I think it kind of like

511
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: draws the line in the sand, like we're going to

512
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: be a tough team. And I think football is a

513
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: very sick with game, right, and when offenses got real,

514
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: like past dominant defenses obviously have to morph and and

515
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: to try to defend the pass. Right, So linebackers get

516
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: a little smaller, safeties get a little more you know,

517
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: athletic and be able to have range and not so

518
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: much coming downhill like Sean Taylor, Brian Dawkins, all these guys,

519
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: Ed Reid, I mean I read a range, but he

520
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: also would come down and crack guys. So as these

521
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: defenses changed, like, well what does the offense do? Then

522
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: its cyclically kind of like starts to morph, to play

523
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: to their weaknesses. And now if they have two hundred

524
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: and thirty pounds linebackers, and you can put a two

525
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: fifty to fucking three hundred and ten pounds. Now we're

526
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: seeing like the Charters and the Ravens, they got these

527
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: bohemoths at full back just paving away for Derrick Henry

528
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: and like, god damn, you put five hundred and fifty

529
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: pounds in the backfield and just run these dudes. Let's

530
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: do it right. So, I think the game of football

531
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: as it kind of sickly comes around. I think full backs,

532
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: bigger tight ends like road graders are starting to come

533
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: back a little bit, and I'm here for it, bro, Yeah,

534
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: I love it.

535
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Speaker 2: It's I mean, all the winning teams always usually have

536
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: like a fullback of some sort or a run game.

537
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: And usually if you have a run game, you have

538
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: a full back. Yeah you know, but what kind of

539
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: football that are you? I know your boys are playing

540
00:28:59,400 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: ball now.

541
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's yeah, it's it's a I've thought a

542
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: lot about this. I've thought a lot about it. I

543
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: didn't want to add any pressure to my boys, right because, like,

544
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: coming from a football family, there's gonna be that like

545
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: just inherent see a last name, and they like, now

546
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 1: there's expectations, right, So I was My boys played flag

547
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: when they were young. My oldest Jimmy, came to me

548
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: after his first his first flag season and goes like that,

549
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: and I like flag, but I want to play real football,

550
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: like put pads on. And I was like, all right,

551
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: let's do it. So the followings fall we signed them

552
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: up for real football and I was gonna I was

553
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: going to coach. And then they had a practice. I

554
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: did the fingerprint whole process and ship. It was a

555
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: couple of days away from getting my clearance to go

556
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: out there and help. I like that.

557
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that process for Yeah, let's fingerprint these absolutely.

558
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: And so I tell you right now, I had an

559
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: old coach that dude definitely was at the bar doing

560
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: some crazy shit before. Yeah, should have been a coach.

561
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I, uh, yeah, I had a moment where

562
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: like I wasn't yet coaching, and I pulled Jimmy off

563
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: and I was getting like real technical on some shit

564
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: and like kind of just overly like in his face

565
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: about it. And I watched like the joy drain off

566
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: his face in that moment, and I was like, you

567
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: know what, like what I got to give, I don't

568
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: think they're ready for it, right, So let me give

569
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: them a couple of years just have fun, like play

570
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: the game, learn the game, do their thing. And then

571
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: if they continue to play, when they get a little

572
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: bit more mature and they can take the coaching and

573
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: all that shit, because we were coached hard, right, like

574
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: like you said, Like I remember my first youth football coach.

575
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: Dude never wore shoes, yeah, and he always had like long,

576
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: kind of raggedy hair. But I love that dude. I'd

577
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: play ball for him. He was a football coach. And

578
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: so you know, like there's sometimes you got to have

579
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: those experiences, you got to have those tough moments. I mean,

580
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: football is a hard game, you know, and if anyone

581
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: gives themselves to it, you gotta give it the respect

582
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: that it deserves. And so I'm right now, I'm just

583
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: playing on the sideline. I get to watch everything. I

584
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: get to see every single play, every move they make.

585
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: And when the time is right, I will I will

586
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: move in and try to shepherd those guys in the

587
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: way that I, you know, know football.

588
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 2: Shepherd them using biblical terms.

589
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: And the kids, we're all growing up a little bit.

590
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: Man.

591
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: Look at this ship. Dude, you're fucking growing up. What

592
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: are you talking about, bro? Yeah, you're growing up.

593
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: We're all growing We're all growing up. We're all growing up.

594
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: Now, Hold up, before I go any further, I'd be

595
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: remiss if I don't say congratulations on the red Jack bro.

596
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: I can't believe it took me this long to fucking

597
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: get out of here to bring that to recall, man,

598
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: but fucking well deserved. Wish I would have been there,

599
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: watched the whole ceremony on YouTube, but uh yeah, I

600
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: mean it was it was great and and Slate brought

601
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: it up. And I've told you this to your face

602
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: several times in the past. Is it's been like one

603
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: of the highlights of my career, like being annoyingly from

604
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: twenty twelve to twenty nineteen, I kind of saw the

605
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: full spectrum of Julian Edelman, right Like, when I got there,

606
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: Wes was still the man. You were like waiting in

607
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: the wings, but you were still doing your thing. And

608
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: then I just saw the fucking full like climb to

609
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: the top. And then let's say that, you know, the

610
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: peak was that the Super Bowl MVP, right, So I

611
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: got to witness that whole thing, and that was just

612
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: like the work ethic. You showed, the amount of work

613
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: and attention to detail and all that shit that you

614
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: put in and this is the example that you set

615
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: for young guys. I mean it was. It was remarkable, man.

616
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: So I think it's just it's special and I should

617
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: recognize that the greatness that's in this room would make

618
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: you get out of here.

619
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: Man.

620
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah.

621
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: You think I apologize apologized enough for being an asshole

622
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: to to certain guys. I don't think I did. I

623
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: don't need to apologize.

624
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 5: Man.

625
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: What was done is done. Do businesses. Business is being done.

626
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: There was assholes in that in that locker room is

627
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: so fuck it, man, was done.

628
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: I always wanted, you know, I always felt like, if

629
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: I'm working this hard, yeah, if you you should be

630
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: working this hard too. Yeah, if you're a young guy, yeah,

631
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: it's sometimes sometimes fuck it hey, but that's how I

632
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: was taught. That's what guys were doing to me when

633
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: I was young. Just like what you say in passing

634
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: to the torch, Uh.

635
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: It worked well, young Conporse coming up, you can always

636
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to atone for all those in Texas.

637
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna yes, great great throwback right there.

638
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 6: Call.

639
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, Billy Madison people to kill us college.

640
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: Right at the time to say that right now, Pennsylvania

641
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: the best state for high school football.

642
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: It's up there. I think Florida, Georgia, California. I don't know.

643
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: I don't really know much about California, so I just

644
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: threw that in because you're sitting here. But I know, like,

645
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: I know, what is it? The Mission something, the.

646
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: Daily Sau, Mission, Vio Long Beach Paul. I mean, the

647
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: list goes.

648
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: On not Redwood City, though, wood Side we're pretty good.

649
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went thirteen to oh, but we weren't like

650
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: we did that like once, like the big powerhouse schools.

651
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: You go to the like PPSL and Norcoo, which is

652
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: like the Saint Francis Is, the Sarah's, the Bellerman's, and

653
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: you have the I think the NCS or something, which

654
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: is daylya Sau and then you come down south. I'm

655
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: learning all the southern California.

656
00:34:59,640 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: Fornia.

657
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: It's such a big state that like we have we

658
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: have great high school football. Yeah yeah, I mean you

659
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: got like but Pennsylvania, Bro, you guys have Joe Montana,

660
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: Dan Marino, you got Revis, you have James Devlin. There's

661
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 2: countless one of the I played a lot with about

662
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh kids because I went to Kent State, and

663
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: like some of the we would always get like the

664
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: guys that weren't big enough for you know, the big,

665
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: badass dudes are going to penn State.

666
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: They're going everywhere, you know.

667
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: But like I always thought Pittsburgh had elite football.

668
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: Oh man, Aaron Donald.

669
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania, Robbie g Robbie, he's a Buffalo guy. Yeah he

670
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: got I mean he said to a teacher he went

671
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: to public school in Pittsburgh for one year.

672
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: Michael Parsonskuon Barkley, like I mean, Lashawn McCoy, dude.

673
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: Like Lashawn McCoy. They had some They have elite people

674
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania.

675
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: They do, but it's kind of spread out between like

676
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: Philly Pittsburgh. What I will say, if it's not the best,

677
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: it's definitely the grittiest between Pittsburgh and Philly. Like name too,

678
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: grittier city.

679
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: Off the top that you know, Like I love that

680
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: little park and Brentwood, gritty Silicon Valley.

681
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: You know what.

682
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: Everyone always tried to talk that shit about California. I

683
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: just say want two words, one name, Logan Mankins. Okay,

684
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: that's all. That's all I gotta say.

685
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: That is Fresno State boys are different. They're growing up

686
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: on farms and shit. Lorenzo Neil, Lorenzo Neil.

687
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: We had them in here, dude, he's a Fresno guy,

688
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: or Central Valley they call it.

689
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: Uh huh. Is there an East West rivalry in Pennsylvania. No,

690
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: there's more of like a pa Ohio rival Yeah.

691
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: There's that's there's the Super Game, right, Big thirty three,

692
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: thirty three, But now I think it's called difference.

693
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: It might be Super thirty three or something like that,

694
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: but now I think they incorporate Maryland too. I actually

695
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: don't know that for a fact and just kind of

696
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: threw that in. But yeah, it used to be the

697
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: Big thirty three, and now that was a big, big,

698
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: big game. It was the thirty three best prospects from

699
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: pa Versus Ohio. I was not selected. I'm still kind

700
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: of salty about that, but you know, at the time,

701
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: I just didn't didn't fucking earn it yet. Yeah, so no,

702
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: it's it's the Big thirty three. That was huge.

703
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 4: Well, I want to know, decision to go to Brown, Well,

704
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: you recruited anywhere else, So what did that process?

705
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: So I was like a bigger kid when I was young,

706
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: So you're full grown at twelve. Yeah, Like sophomore year

707
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: high school, I was like chest hair when you're thirteen

708
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: sixty three now, but I probably had facial hair. But like,

709
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: so sophomore year high school was.

710
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: Fourteen, he was a fucking fourteen, and a sophomore year

711
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: I was six three, like two thirty five, and so

712
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: I was like playing and just like defeating guys off

713
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: my size.

714
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: And then I think, you know, colleges saw that and

715
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: were like, all right, let's give this kid a look.

716
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 1: Then I never really grew past that, and I never

717
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: really got much faster or like athletically gifted. I mean,

718
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: the fact that I played ten years in the NFL

719
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: with the athleticism that I have is a fucking mystery.

720
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: I am right, I'm not that athletic dude. I ran

721
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: a five o three forty the one going I mean that, yeah,

722
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: and twenty is good. It's all matters. Twenty is good.

723
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: My five ten five was always good. Yeah. But the

724
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: one thing that I have was like football IQ or

725
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: like we were talking about earlier on thirty five insertion

726
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: points and shit, like I learned how to how to

727
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: expect things and how to like analyze what was happening

728
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: in real time. Spatial awareness was always super strong for me,

729
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: like coming from the defensive side of the ball and

730
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: like feeling things, you know how you can like feel

731
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: like out of your pariffs. So at fullback it kind

732
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: of all like culminated and worked because I think about

733
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: all the time, like the guys that I was blocking

734
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: for were like like probably a full half a second

735
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: faster in the forty but I'm still like leading them. Yeah,

736
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: so how the fuck did they not run up my

737
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: back all the time. It was like I was able

738
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: to process information real fast and make decisions real fast,

739
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: and then it made up for that so that like football, IQ, Shit,

740
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: where the fuck were we going? You asked about Browne?

741
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: So early in my high school career, started getting like

742
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: recruited by some bigger names. Took visit. My first ever

743
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: collegiate visit was to Michigan. I went to the Big

744
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: House on their junior day and I was like, fuck, dude,

745
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a Wolverine, Like I know.

746
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: It was the coolest home. It's too especial at our time.

747
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: We're kind of the same age. Yeah, Like Michigan was

748
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 2: had Charles Wison won the fucking heights in there. Yeah,

749
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: they were Michigan big house.

750
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Chad Henny was from one town over essentially from me

751
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: and I. The game that I went to their junior

752
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: day was his first start versus Miami of Ohio and

753
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, and I remember like Braylan Edwards had a

754
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: one hander in the back of the end zone and

755
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: it was just incredible, right, And so I was like,

756
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to Michigan, like sign me up.

757
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: But offers never came. And so then I started going

758
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: like kind of kip going down their ranks. And then

759
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: it was just like, all right, well, if I'm not

760
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: going to go to a big football school, let me

761
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: go to let me get the best education I can

762
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: and kind of leverage football to get me in there.

763
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: So I had good grades, had good SAT scores, like

764
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: always super strong in math, and then I just fucking said,

765
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: all right, it's IVY League or nothing. And then Brown.

766
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: It came down to Brown in Princeton. I took visits

767
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: to both, just felt like I connected more with the

768
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: Brown like football team. I didn't really know anything about

769
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: the school, like embarrassingly enough, like I didn't really like

770
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: do that research but I was, you know, a seventeen

771
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: year old kid, like and then I just I just

772
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: like the feel when I was in Providence on my

773
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: official visit, like I had the time of my life.

774
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: And then I went to Princeton the next week and

775
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: it just it was fun. It was Princeton, so it's like, oh,

776
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: like everyone's buttoned up, like, but I just didn't feel

777
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: that like comfort.

778
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: So then I just went to Brown and fucking Princeton. Yeah, man, yeah,

779
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: the sam Acon used to take me to Shark.

780
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's there's some spots on their street, east

781
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: side Pockets Meeting Street, which is like right behind there.

782
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: I probably eating there more than I've eaten anywhere in

783
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: my entire life. Just a great little DELI.

784
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: What's up with what's up with IVY League guys becoming fullbacks?

785
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: You an US check?

786
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

787
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: Is he your favorite fullback right now? Who's your favorite

788
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: fullback in the league right now?

789
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: Recard Record? I think he's doing great things. I mean

790
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: he's a little banged up right now. But then this

791
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: Matt Lock, dude, I just meant yesterday with the Chargers,

792
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: he's doing great things as well. That whole heart hardball

793
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: loves loves them some fullbacks, man, which I I appreciate that.

794
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: It's because they want to have drawn the line in

795
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: the sand for be in a tough football right now,

796
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: they're slinging too, Yeah, they're slinging.

797
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 4: So when you transitioned from defensive line to full back,

798
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: was there like you're watching a lot of tape like

799
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 4: who are some of the fullbacks that were doing their

800
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: stuff that they were like maybe modeling your game after.

801
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Vante Leach, I'd say it was like he was

802
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: the kind of pinnacle when I got in and I

803
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: thought that that dude was he was a bad dude.

804
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: I think the best blocking fullback of all time You've

805
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: you've had on low Neil So but I remember watching

806
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: a lot of Leach tape and like just seeing the

807
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: way he like approached guys and then and then I

808
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: was just trying to like fully learned offense, the lingo,

809
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And when I was in the UFL,

810
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: like those those running backs that I mentioned earlier, they

811
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: kind of show me, like, you know what it took

812
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: to just read out runs because I had never done

813
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: that before, like on the move.

814
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: So he yea, they are problem solvers a lot of

815
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: the fullbacks, the good ones, Like sometimes the line, if

816
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: they fuck it up, they have to make it right.

817
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: A lot of the times for a fullback, the line

818
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: will do something and may get a different look and

819
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: he's got to blow it up like that and not

820
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So there's a lot of

821
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: like what he's saying, processing. He has to be able

822
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: to process where that guy's going that tackle that whatever,

823
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: if it's a wham or something, if they're going to

824
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 2: go in, he's got to be able to process on

825
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: a dot on who to hit, when to hit, because

826
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 2: then you got to launch into it and get your

827
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 2: pad level.

828
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: It's like it's like not just it's not just like

829
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: go hit the guy. Yeah, I mean let's not let's

830
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: not get this twisted. It's not rocket science. But the problem,

831
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: the problem solving thing is a big piece of it.

832
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: And like that's one thing I was studied engineering at

833
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: Brown and like that's a big time component of engineering.

834
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: It's problem solving. Like, yeah, you got to know the math,

835
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: you got to know the science, you got to know

836
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: all that shit. But then like when shit goes wrong,

837
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: how are you gonna like modify your thinking?

838
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: So you're engineering helped your fullback in.

839
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: I think so. I think so it allows.

840
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: Go get your engineering degree.

841
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: Now.

842
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 4: The Patriots, like running back room, had a lot of

843
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 4: different styles of running back from Sony, Michelle, James White,

844
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: Rexburg at the Garapont they all brought something different to

845
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: the table. Now, if you're blocking for them, how does

846
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 4: that affect like your craft and your technique you.

847
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: Block differently for each each guy.

848
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: I would like to believe that I didn't, but I

849
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: definitely felt who I was blocking for. So like I

850
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: think it's probably between LG and Dion Lewis who are

851
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: my favorite backs were to block for? Because LG you

852
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: could like you could kind of like get a glance

853
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: and blow on it on a guy and he's going

854
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: to be like He'll fucking finish that that off for you.

855
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: But then Dion was so slippery that it was like,

856
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: you know what I will say, like there's an element

857
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: of the true the amount of trust you have behind

858
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: that guy, like to set up your block to like

859
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: predict how I'm gonna take this dude on so that

860
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: he can cut off of it. Like Shane was real

861
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: good of that. Shane Veren like very good at like

862
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: the patience to like let it and let me make

863
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: contacts so then he can like boom and go the

864
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: other way right, versus like guys that don't have that

865
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: patience or they're just like they're predicting it. And he

866
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: almost can't fucking wait to get into that hole. It

867
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: fucks me up.

868
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's not setting up this block. He's gotta

869
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: go widen so he can widen if he doesn't. If

870
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: he doesn't widen and he goes, then this guy can

871
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: overplay James and go inside. Yeah, so he's got to

872
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: wait till the very last minute. They always say step

873
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: on the heel, step on the outside the heels of

874
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: the guy so he can get the right and then

875
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: then he can cut off.

876
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 4: So it would be a time where like you read

877
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 4: a plus situation and you and you block in a

878
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 4: certain way and then a guy just doesn't help you

879
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 4: out with it's like just piss you off, and like

880
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 4: what does that?

881
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, it pisses you off.

882
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: That's why the line of the guy matters, because if

883
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 2: he goes like this and this guy and and James

884
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 2: has got to get around him and set the edge.

885
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: If he's not setting it up wide or you know

886
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, or if it's supposed to go everything.

887
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: I think like outside zone plays were always kind of

888
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: tricky because like you're you got to let the whole

889
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: play develop while you're running, and then the running back

890
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: he might see something early before, like I've already passed it,

891
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: and then he sees it and then it's like he's

892
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: cutting up and I'm expecting the linebacker to flow completely

893
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: over the top. Then it's like I don't have a

894
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: chance to get into yeah. But then like you know,

895
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: inside or like inside zone plays a lot more like

896
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: downhill where there's just less room to go, So you

897
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: know that's I like, I like the inside zone plays

898
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: because there's just kind of like line up and go

899
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: get them, you know. But yeah, there's there's a the

900
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: trust factor. Like I always I always appreciated the relationship

901
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: between the running back and the full back. I remember

902
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: when I was first kind of making that transition. Like

903
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: you mentioned about who you watched, I remember watching the

904
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: thing on I think it was like a thirty for

905
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: thirty or something on ESPN about Mike Carney, the running

906
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: back for the or the fullback for the Rams, and

907
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: his relationship with Steven Jackson. Yeah, and how they were

908
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: like buddy buddy, and they would like do shit together,

909
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: to have dinners together, got their families together. And I

910
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: remember just like loving that because I like part of

911
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: the reason I love the game of football is like

912
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: the brotherhood you build between your teammates. Like I never

913
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: had a brother growing up, so it was always like

914
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: kind of searching for that connection. And then football gave

915
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: me that connection. And then it's like now I got

916
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: like this kind of connection with these running backs is

917
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: like it's like I'm their big brother, Like I'm their protector.

918
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: Like you're not going to get to me until you

919
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: go through him, you know. And I fucking love that,

920
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: Like it gives me chills just thinking about it. Protector

921
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: I fucking love yeah, And like and damn, and now

922
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: I got that relationship with Jenny, Like I'm her protector.

923
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm my kids protector, you know, so you gotta kind

924
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: of you got to go through me before you get

925
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: to them. Fucking you know you want to go run.

926
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: Should full backs be eligible for the Protector of the

927
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: Year Award?

928
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: They should?

929
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: They should. That's what we do. Hey, nfl p A,

930
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: maybe you can put a word there. We go quick

931
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: before we move on Mount Rushmore. Oh, man quick, Vante Leach,

932
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: Tom Rathman, Yeah, I know you would. Uh who did

933
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: I say first? Neil so Lorenzo, Neil, Vante Leach, Tom Rathman.

934
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: I mean I chry Slessinger was good up in Detroit.

935
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: You know, we had Max Strong was a fucking man

936
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: amongst men. Best full back name ever. Yeah, oh my god, yeah,

937
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: jeez Born. Yeah, I'd say that's that's five. This one

938
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: more than than is the Mount rush Morris. I like that.

939
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: I like that.

940
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break.

941
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: Let's move on and let's go back into time around

942
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: where the game took place. This game took place on

943
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: February fourth, twenty eighteen, which is now starting to be

944
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: that's almost ten years away.

945
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: That's crazy to think.

946
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: It's getting kind We usually do these games and they're

947
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: fucking like, oh, this is like two years ago. But

948
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 2: the number one movie Jamanji, Welcome to the Jungle, number

949
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: one song God's Planned by Drake, remember all that. That

950
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 2: new Gumanji was pretty good.

951
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: I liked it. I liked you. That was with the Rock, right,

952
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: the Rock and Chris. Yeah, that was a funny one.

953
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, n.

954
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: Heart, Kevin Hart, Walking Dead, Games of Thrones vit means

955
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: Stranger Things were all popping off TV.

956
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: Did you watch any of these during this time? Yeah?

957
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: Game of Throne, Well, I didn't watch Game of Thrones

958
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: when it first came out, but I went back circle

959
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: back and we watched that. Stranger Things. I've always been into.

960
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of starting to lose it, losing

961
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: its steam for sure, time in between forgetting. It's getting

962
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: to like complex. I don't know what's going on in

963
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: what dimension. I'm like, yeah, just let's wrap this up,

964
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: let's put a bow on it.

965
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: January one, California legalizes cannabis for recreational use. Wow, that

966
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 2: just that long ago?

967
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: Every first one.

968
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: They were first, there was the first big Yes, Denver was.

969
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: The recreational confused.

970
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: Well, this is like you could go just get get

971
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: Super Bowl Champions Philadelphia Eagles, m VP, Tom Brady, uh,

972
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: Natty Champs Alabama. Baker Mayfield was the Heisman.

973
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

974
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: What was the pregame playlist before a game?

975
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: For me? Yeah? Uh, kind of a little bit of everything.

976
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 1: As I got later into my career, I went more

977
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: into like like hardcore metal, and I just wanted that

978
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: like slaughter to of ail as where people are gonna

979
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: think I'm fucking crazy for even saying that shit, But

980
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: for there's something that like the like the choppiness of

981
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: the guitar and the drums just get me going, man,

982
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: And like that mentality that I get in when listen.

983
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: I still listen to that when I train, just because

984
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta get it. You got to get

985
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: into like a dark place, and I think that stuff

986
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: puts me there. So but yeah, I dabble with like

987
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: I kind of came up in like the the late nineties.

988
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: I didn't come up in it, but like I when

989
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: I was going through high school and college, like I

990
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: really got into like the late nineties early two thousands

991
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: New York hip hop. So I was Mob Deep, Yeah,

992
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: Wu Tang Clan all kind of stuff, and so shook

993
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: Ones was always on the playlist. Survival of the Fittest

994
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: by Mob Deep was always on the playlist. Yeah, I

995
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: had a feel no what's twenty eighteen James, Like, well

996
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: at that point I had two boys, hadn't quite had

997
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: my daughter yet that was a year later. But just

998
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: kind of like learning how to be a dad, learning

999
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: how to be like a family man but also NFL fullback.

1000
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: And this particular game was real odd for me because

1001
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: I had so much family in Minnesota for this one,

1002
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: because my wife's cousin worked for the Eagles, so she

1003
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: had her connection to tickets. We had ours obviously, and

1004
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: we had like thirty maybe touching forty people in town jeez,

1005
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: And it was I mean, takets they give you, well

1006
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: what do they get? Gave me like eleven twelve. But

1007
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: then I was able to get more, which I didn't

1008
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: know about when I was like when we were going

1009
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: to Super Bowls I was younger. I just thought like

1010
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: you got what you got, yeah, and like, don't fucking

1011
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: make a fuss. But then I started realizing, like as

1012
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: we went back a couple of times, like you could

1013
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: just go and get as many as you fucking need. Really,

1014
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't that. I remember Slate telling me like, hey,

1015
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: just just go ask I get the guy's name now,

1016
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: but Stacy, no, I could like draw them, yeah, glasses,

1017
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: but anyways, that's that's neither here nor there. But yeah,

1018
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 1: like you could just go the week of the super

1019
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: Bowl when you're in town, yeah, and just like, hey,

1020
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: I need five six more tickets, and I just know

1021
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: how far removed from your nuclear family, do they start

1022
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: rooting for the Eagles pretty immediately, like my dad even

1023
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: but then yeah, like your dad was rooting for the

1024
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: Eagles then, I mean I think he I think he

1025
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: was obviously rooting for me and the Patriots, but I

1026
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: think he was definitely like happy. I mean, he grew up.

1027
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: The Eagles are all he ever knew. It's all I

1028
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: ever knew while I was a kid, you know, and

1029
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: so and it's their first one, this was their first.

1030
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: Let's jump into this game, Jackie. No matter what, your

1031
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: dad's leaving that stadium happy. Yeah. Yeah, win, win for

1032
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: mister Devlin.

1033
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 5: Let's go, hu we run through the Eagles, the Eagles,

1034
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 5: all right, these guys were thirteen and three. They're winning

1035
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 5: his season since O four. Coincidentally, that season also ended

1036
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 5: with a meeting of the Patriots and the Super Bowl.

1037
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 5: That was the to Andy Reid era. Don he had

1038
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 5: a broken beam or something, seriously, and he's still played

1039
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 5: a little bit.

1040
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like one hundred and thirtys or something, fred

1041
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: X all that. That was a good era.

1042
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, this was the second year with Doug Peterson era

1043
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 5: in Philly coming off a year and went to went

1044
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 5: seven and nine, had some notable coordinators Frank Greg Jim Schwartz.

1045
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: Uh. And then the biggest scoring one. Remember what Bill

1046
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: used to call Schwartz short. Yeah, now Schwartz, he's gonna

1047
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: crash crunch Chase.

1048
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, just kept this simple, man.

1049
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 5: And then the big storyline late in the season was

1050
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 5: Week fourteen, Carson Wentz tears his ACL in a forty

1051
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 5: five to thirty five win over the Rams.

1052
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: Uh. This was also a team that brought in some

1053
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: veteran free agents.

1054
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 5: You bring in Tory Smith, you bring in al Sean Jeffrey,

1055
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 5: you bring in Chris Long, Nick Foles, LG. Who we've

1056
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 5: been talking about today. Of course, great guys on the line.

1057
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 5: You got Jason Kelsey, you got Lane Johnson, Jesus Malcolm Jenkins.

1058
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 5: I mean these guys, Jalen Mills another guy that went

1059
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 5: on to the Patriots.

1060
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: So I was for this.

1061
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 1: I was hurt.

1062
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the keys to beating this team? What

1063
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: was the era of this Philly team? What were they

1064
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: preaching about this team? So they were off to like such.

1065
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: A fucking hot start this year, and Wentz like had

1066
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: he finished this season. I mean he would have been.

1067
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 2: Up for the nah, he was like god tyr season.

1068
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: Then and then when it when it when he got hurt,

1069
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: and then like Nick Foles took over and there they

1070
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: were still kind of went in right, but three losses yeah,

1071
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: and I've but they may have been undefeated underwentz or like.

1072
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 5: Maybe only one loss under wins that was Week two

1073
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 5: with Kansas City.

1074
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so they were real yeah, and so you were like,

1075
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: all right, so like they still got a little bit

1076
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: of life in them with Foles, but you were kind

1077
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: of always waiting for for the wheels to fall off, right,

1078
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: and then they go through that playoff run and they

1079
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: take on this identity as like we're the underdogs, like

1080
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: nobody fucking believes in the masks, the dog masks, and

1081
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: it was like, man, we just gotta we gotta, we

1082
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: gotta like be able to outlast these guys, you know,

1083
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: like they got fight, but we're the Patriots, Like this

1084
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: is what we do. We play in the February, and

1085
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: so like we just gotta we gotta outlast them. And

1086
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: I mean their defense was always real aggressive. Their d

1087
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: line was real good. You know, they have Fletcher Cox

1088
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 1: holding it down. They have Brandon Graham on the edge,

1089
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: and like, you know, so if we just handled them,

1090
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, we could we could just take care of business.

1091
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: I mean, and our offense did did a phenomenal job.

1092
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: Like the game itself. I know, we'll get into it

1093
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: more detail later, but like we were ready to go,

1094
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: and we you know, we did our five hundred yards. Yeah,

1095
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's still is the the the

1096
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: game with the most offensive yards. Yeah.

1097
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 5: Get into this Patriots team. Let's here unbelievable. Let's get

1098
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 5: into these twenty seventeen Patriots. We're looking to repeat.

1099
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: Thirteen and three.

1100
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 5: Also best team in the AFC, eighteenth year of the

1101
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick era. Josh running the offense, McDaniels, that is,

1102
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 5: Maddy p running the defense, coming off the Super Bowl

1103
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 5: WINMI year prior we all remember twenty eight to three.

1104
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 5: Jeweles was out this season. The freaking turf in Detroit

1105
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 5: prior to the season in the preseason took.

1106
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: My boy out. Hated that that was sad man.

1107
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 5: And then we got to get in some of these dudes.

1108
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 5: We got James of course, Brandon Bolden, Rex Burkehead, Dion Lewis,

1109
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 5: James White, Dola one that I forgot. Kenny Britt is

1110
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 5: a huge part of this, Tanny Cooks, Philip dor set Rob.

1111
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 5: I mean you got big, Allen Branch, David Andrews at center,

1112
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 5: Teddy Kara's friend of the show, Jack Mason, eight, Solder

1113
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 5: Stephen Sevon Gilmour. I mean, this was the heck with

1114
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 5: Patriots team looking to go back to back.

1115
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, how would you sum up this twenty seventeen

1116
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 2: Pats team.

1117
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean we were we just had a lot of talent, man,

1118
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: and we were like we were cooking. And I remember

1119
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: like despite losing you like we were the offense or

1120
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: the wide receiver room was able to like kind of

1121
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: galvanize around Danny Hogan like these guys that were kind

1122
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: of just scrappy dudes as well, you know, and so

1123
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 1: you just kind of like kept kept riding the wave.

1124
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 5: Man.

1125
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean we we were decimated with some injuries like

1126
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: you of course, but then you know, was Dante out

1127
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: all year? How I go out all year? Yeah, looks

1128
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of banged up. I mean that's

1129
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: when we brought in bad most, Like, yeah, what's it like?

1130
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 1: Like At this time, Jewels was kind of a core

1131
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: member of the team. What's it like losing a player

1132
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: like that so early is in the season. From like

1133
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: a cultural locker room standpoint, it's it's real tough, man,

1134
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: because like he just leaves such a hole, like not

1135
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: only in his gameplay, but also his personality is leadership

1136
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: like you know, and when you when you missed that,

1137
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: everyone else has to like kind of bring that those

1138
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: elements in their game or they like look to other guys.

1139
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean losing like even when we didn't

1140
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: have Tom for four weeks that one year, like and

1141
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: then we all kind of rally around it almost because

1142
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, well we got to take on

1143
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: that that load, you know, collectively, like no one person

1144
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: can do what Jewels did, you know, so but all

1145
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: of us together working together doing our thing and making

1146
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: up for that, like we might come close to it

1147
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: with the moneyball philosophy.

1148
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob always talks about you being in the tight

1149
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: end meetings. How are those meetings?

1150
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean, well, it's a Dave Ball left Forbama this year, right,

1151
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: and then we got Nick Kyley and.

1152
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: Whose offensive coordinator Houston?

1153
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: Houston, Yeah, just gotta get this guy's up front the

1154
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: block a little bit, you know. But yeah, now, but

1155
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: between those two, I was very blessed to be in

1156
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: that tight end room. Dave's taught us how to like

1157
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: how to process information. He taught us how to think quickly.

1158
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: He was a great coach man. I love Daves. And

1159
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: then Nick Keyley came in and he just coached with

1160
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: his fucking heart. Man like that dude cares. He cares

1161
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: about his guys, He cares about his performance. So I

1162
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: know he's probably going through it right now down to Houston.

1163
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, like sometimes you got to take those lumps

1164
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: as as a young OC.

1165
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, you and Gronk do like math battles in

1166
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: the room or something. You like numbers, He likes numbers.

1167
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he didn't do numbers like I do numbers. Yeah,

1168
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: are you numbers guy? Yeah? Yeah. I heard him say

1169
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: what his SAT score was. I got him by like

1170
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: fifty points oh seven eighties seven eighty. I'd be like

1171
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: perfect five eighty. And with the words though, I don't

1172
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: do well with the words. Do you know that's only

1173
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: missing like one or two questions?

1174
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 5: You know what you missed now, James, We also in

1175
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 5: the running back rooms.

1176
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm like in the meeting. The first year. Okay, my

1177
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: first year, I was with Ives in the running back room,

1178
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: and I mean.

1179
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: I don't what's the difference between the running back room

1180
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: and the tight end room. Let's hear this one.

1181
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean a lot more like liveliness in the running

1182
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: back room. There's a lot more like joking. Tight end

1183
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: room was like very professional, you know, like even though

1184
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: we had I had Robin there, like in a you know, man,

1185
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: a man like Rob isn't like the party boyfriend, like yeah,

1186
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: pro yeah, and he he's very intelligent, We're very diligent

1187
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: about the way he approached his game. And then like

1188
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: between me and then we had we always had like

1189
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: the third guy, right, Like it was either Marty or

1190
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: who man Early or Duyanne Allen and like so we

1191
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: had like that third guy and then usually like a

1192
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: younger dude that was coming up, Jake Hollister or something

1193
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: like that. Right, So just a lot more like professional,

1194
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: i'd say, in the in the in the tight end room.

1195
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: But I learned a lot. I learned a lot from

1196
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: of how to like how to behave as a running

1197
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: back with IVES in that room, Like we had wood

1198
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: Woody at the time when I first got there in

1199
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. He was like he was a whiz when

1200
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: it came to like processing information and like being able

1201
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: to see things. I mean he had motherfucker like he

1202
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: could run the ball he was.

1203
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: People think he was like like he was like a

1204
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: two meter champion and shit, he's like a track star.

1205
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah what he was fast as balls and he was

1206
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: like he was short, but he wasn't small. He was

1207
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 2: a thick little motherfucker.

1208
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just like so shifty, like could stop on

1209
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: dimond like then his acceleration to like get back going.

1210
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: Was I was asking anyone who played Woody, do you

1211
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: remember what he would be in his locker and he'd

1212
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: come over and he'd give you that like do your

1213
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: calves feel like they're running in quicksand with little mosquitos

1214
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: biting them?

1215
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: Like he would go the craziest like is.

1216
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: Your are your glues holding on by little strings that

1217
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: would snap a baby's head off? And then you have

1218
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 2: his best practice, you go practice his nuts off, you

1219
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

1220
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: That was Woody. Yeah, No, we had some characters in there. Man.

1221
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: When I when I first got in that running back room,

1222
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: it was Woody Shane. Uh fucking uh red, Oh my god. Yeah, man,

1223
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: we had we had some times. And then but then

1224
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: going to the tight end room my first year going

1225
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: with tight Ends, George Gatzi was tight end coach.

1226
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1227
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: We had an absolute like revolving door at that at

1228
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: that like fourth tight end spot. I mean it was

1229
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:06,479
Speaker 1: like start out, Kronko obviously always the mainstay. Who man

1230
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: was the may stay like as the two or three guy, right,

1231
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: and then like that other guy was like Aaron. Then

1232
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: that whole shit happened, and then it was Visanti Shanko,

1233
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: and then it was Kellen Winslow Junior, and then it

1234
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: was who else did we have? Matt Mulligan, We did.

1235
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: You played with us for a little while. Malli dude

1236
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: Mally like kind of lit the fire under me to

1237
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: be like a weight room. He's a meathead. Oh yeah,

1238
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: Like he used to challenge me. Remember we used to

1239
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: deadlift like set like seven hundred pounds. And I had

1240
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: never been a deadlifter, like being like a longer torso guy,

1241
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: Like body mechanics just doesn't really like make for a

1242
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: good deadlifter for me. But I started like chalking up

1243
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: and fucking pulling weight and I swear that posterior chain

1244
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: like that twenty thirteen fourteen era of me. I felt

1245
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: like invincible running through guys, like just that amount of

1246
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: like strength you have in your glutes, your lower back,

1247
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: like you know, just I'm I was like very ready

1248
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: to take on make and make contact crime right there.

1249
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 2: Those errors, Yeah, that's when I felt like I was

1250
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. Twenty eight was like my athletic peak.

1251
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: And after that you're not You're not going up anymore,

1252
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 2: but you're getting smarter, and yeah you're declining, you know

1253
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: what I mean. But twenty eight fucking I felt like

1254
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 2: I was flying to Yeah, it's probably you were twenty six,

1255
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 2: twenty seven, twenty.

1256
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: Eight, Yeah, summer for years. Yeah, I was like twenty

1257
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: six in sixteen.

1258
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: Now, how was Bill with the fullback? So what's your

1259
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: best Bill story? Do you ever give you anything good?

1260
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: I mean not really no, And I was he loved

1261
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: jim Yeah, he loved Jimmy and I. But I was

1262
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: also like kind of just like like when it came

1263
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: to Bill, I I was, I guess I could say

1264
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: like intimidated everyone. I was. So I just like wanted

1265
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: to I never wanted to say the wrong thing. So

1266
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: I would like say just as little as possible, you know,

1267
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: and just be like okay, yep, okay, got it. And

1268
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: he never really like went out of his way to

1269
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: coach me up real hard, because I always got it

1270
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: from either like tight end coach or or Josh or Scar.

1271
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: Scar was never like shy about like correcting me. But

1272
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: I do remember like Scar giving me love when I

1273
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: was first kind of trying to get my foot in

1274
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: the doors being like the fullback for the Patriots. Like

1275
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: I remember him like, hey, man, like you're you're going

1276
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: to be like a heartbeat to this run game, Like

1277
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: if you can, if you can keep this going, like

1278
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: you'll have a spot here and like that those kind

1279
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: of like little personal touches. Yeah, in that building, man,

1280
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: Like that shit goes a long way. Yeah, because you

1281
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: always feel like you got eyes on you and then

1282
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: when someone like props you up a little bit, you.

1283
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 2: Know, especially from Scar. Yeah, what's the wildest thing you

1284
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 2: ever heard?

1285
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: Scars? Oh? Man, there's a lot, I mean, just his

1286
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: little like one one liners like I don't I don't remember.

1287
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Speaker 2: I wasn't in the line meetings.

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01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't in meetings either, but like run game

1289
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: meeting you'd hear some ship. I don't have a.

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Speaker 2: Particular same same cars, different license places.

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01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: One thing that I use often is when I talk

1292
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: about like ball from even when we were playing, right.

1293
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 2: You always say inertia.

1294
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: Well that's when that's when men were men and women

1295
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: were damn proud of it or something like that. I

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01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: always use that, like bat that was when men were

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01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: men and women were proud of it. Yeah.

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01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,479
Speaker 2: He would get into like some science too, all right,

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01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: he would We got six hundred pounds here, you had

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01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 2: got three d and forty pounds here, Jim, you're another

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01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: three two fifty.

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01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: You guys just rided it. That's called inertia. Yeah you

1303
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: remember that.

1304
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd always say inertia. Yeah, what's the one coaching

1305
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 2: point out of any of the coaches you've never forgotten.

1306
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: My first running back coach in Cincinnati was big on

1307
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: hitting through not too so like when you get to

1308
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: the guy and you make contact, like you're not like

1309
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: your job's not done then, like you got to run

1310
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: your feet and like run through him. So don't pitter

1311
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: powder before you make that contact and like you know,

1312
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: like you just gotta fucking go and act as if

1313
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: he's like a yard behind him and just continue fucking

1314
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,560
Speaker 1: running because the worst thing you can do is hesitate

1315
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: and and fuck the whole flow of the playoff, Right,

1316
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: So like you just gotta you just gotta like to

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01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:42,839
Speaker 1: go through.

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01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,879
Speaker 2: That lily unconditioning. Hey, I'll stop on the fucking line. Yeah,

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01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: you run through the lad damn line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of like that might like the

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01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: man that loves walking will walk further than the man

1322
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: that loves the destination. Like I love that ship with

1323
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: the process, and it's all about the process, even even

1324
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: in like this little microcosm of like blocking, Like you

1325
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: gotta love that that more than you want to make

1326
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,759
Speaker 1: this block. Like you just got to go through your

1327
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: progression of it and love that and then you'll be

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01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: a good blocker. I agree.

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01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 4: Before we move on to the lead up, as we

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Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, Jewels wasn't really around this season. I think

1331
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 4: fun stories from this team that you that you can

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01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 4: tell Jewels that happened this year.

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Speaker 1: To Air Force, didn't you guys for the Mexico game? Yeah, man,

1334
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: we we did do the whole Denver to Colorado Springs visit.

1335
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: That was cool. We get to like tour the Olympic

1336
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: village there or whatever they call it. I think it's

1337
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: the Olympic Village. Having having debot James Harrison on the

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01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: team was an experience. We talked about that. Yeah, so

1339
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I saw them as a Patriot,

1340
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: Like we had played against him and the Steelers several times,

1341
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: and I still remember to play. We were running like

1342
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: twenty five flash and I had to like go and

1343
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: kind of like kick him out on the backside, but

1344
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: I cut him just to a throw at him, just

1345
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: give him something a little different. And the first thing

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01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: he said when we were like walking out the practice

1347
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: one day, I like went and introduced myself and he's like,

1348
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: you the motherfucker to cut me. I was like, yeah, man,

1349
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: I mean you're fucking James Harrison, Like, you know, I

1350
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: just didn't feel like taking you on up top that day.

1351
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: And he's like, man. But then we like learned to

1352
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: work together and you know, did a whole thing. But

1353
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: that that dude, he was a man. He was a

1354
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 1: man amongst men all there. I mean, he was an

1355
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: early early morning workout guy. I would always get it

1356
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: in the in the middle of the day and I

1357
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: still kind of like that like, if need be, I'll

1358
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: do cardio in the morning, but I need my body,

1359
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: Like wait a little bit, but yeah, he's he's put

1360
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: on some absolute exit exhibitions in the weight room.

1361
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, jump into the game, Jackie. Let's get into the

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01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 2: quick lead up here. We touched on a lot of

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01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 2: this earlier.

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01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 5: Both teams came in as the number one seed, yet

1365
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,839
Speaker 5: Philly took on this underdog mentality wearing the dog masks.

1366
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 5: They were underdogs from the betting perspective in the Atlanta

1367
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 5: game and they ran with that, put that chip on

1368
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 5: their shoulder. The Pats, meanwhile, won eleven of their last twelve,

1369
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 5: hot overcoming the big injuries down to High Tower. Just

1370
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 5: to recap that one ended up on IRA after week

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01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 5: seven toward the peck banged up a little bit with

1372
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 5: a knee after week too, missed a couple of games.

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01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: So that was huge.

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01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 5: Jewels out obviously, but came in We beat Tennessee, blew

1375
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 5: him out in the division round. Then't that memorable championship

1376
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 5: game against the Jags. Blake Bortles and the guys came

1377
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 5: into Foxborough playoff Dolaoff Dola Gilly with the Yeah, man,

1378
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 5: what a game that was. And then meanwhile over in

1379
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 5: the NFC, Philly took down Atlanta.

1380
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: Fifteen phantom call this year that year that was the.

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01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 5: Next one, and then smoked Minnesota in the championship round.

1382
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: So this was Minnesota's miracle in Minnapolis. No, it was

1383
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: the week before.

1384
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the divisional round where they beat Yeah.

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01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah this year yeah yeah.

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01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 5: Insert the tag right here so we can send viewers

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Speaker 5: to that episode whatever it's called.

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Speaker 1: Clip.

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01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 5: And this was we mentioned a little bit earlier a

1390
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 5: Super Bowl thirty nine rematch down in Jacksonville. Remember that one.

1391
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 5: Rodney Harrison and the Boys New England won that one.

1392
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 5: Remember where I was watching that?

1393
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: Tell him my uh my best friend Sewan's basement. He

1394
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: had the whole neighborhood over and watching that game. I

1395
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: was a big Eagles fan at the time. I remember

1396
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: like just fucking despising the Patriots and like Tom and like,

1397
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: oh Tom, such a such a little cry baby. That

1398
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: that kind of salt. All right?

1399
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 2: How did talk like going into meeting Tom for the

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01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: first time, like thinking like that after being a Philly

1401
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 2: guy hating him? Yeah, what was your thought after meeting him? Like?

1402
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Change? I mean, and I tell I tell this

1403
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: a lot because people often ask me like, oh, what's

1404
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: Tom like? Because I'll like when people are jealous and

1405
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: people see that kind of greatness. I think a lot

1406
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: of times, like you know, you just pick on anything,

1407
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: And every once in a while they'd show Tom yelling

1408
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: at his receivers, like you know, yelling at fucking Billy

1409
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 1: l on a sideline, and so like all of a sudden,

1410
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: like now you're seeing this out of context, and it's like, oh, well,

1411
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: he's like a fucking he's like a cray baby, right,

1412
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: So I would just I just was like, yeah, that's

1413
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: what I'll talk about too, right. And so then going

1414
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 1: to school up in the New England area and then

1415
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: witnessing all the greatness my whole four years at Brown,

1416
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: and just the jealousy that I that I got for

1417
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: not only the Pats, but also like the Bruins. At

1418
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: that time, the Celtics were winning, the Socks won a Cup.

1419
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: It was like every year a different, a different Boston

1420
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 1: team was winning something, and so I just got more

1421
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 1: and more disdain towards that ship. And then lo and behold,

1422
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 1: two years later, I'm I'm up in Foxborough and it's

1423
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: like man. Then I meet the guy, and just like

1424
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 1: everyone else that tells his story, it's like he comes

1425
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: up and approaches you as if you were like like

1426
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: as if he is like anybody else, right, And so

1427
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: I always appreciated that, like his his personability to just

1428
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: kind of be one of the guys and be like, hey,

1429
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: nice to meet you. I'm Tom Brady. We're happy to

1430
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: have you here. You know. It's like he doesn't need

1431
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: to say that shit, but he does. And so yeah,

1432
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 1: I just I think it kind of humanizes him in

1433
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: a very very nice way. Yeah, he's a human.

1434
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 2: I guess he's hum Yeah, playing fucking Minneapolis. How is

1435
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 2: this as a host town for when you guys went

1436
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: out there in practice?

1437
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think. I don't think they'll do

1438
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 1: it again.

1439
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: You know.

1440
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: It was it was tough, man. When we were in

1441
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: that mall, Like I didn't do anything but stay in

1442
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 1: that mall because our hotel was connected to it. Then

1443
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles were also in the mall, but like on

1444
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,879
Speaker 1: the other side, and so that's all I even saw.

1445
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: And then I went out one time because my oldest

1446
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 1: his birthday's February fifth, So whenever we would go to

1447
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. I'd always like make it a point to

1448
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: have whatever family came in, we'd have a birthday party

1449
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: for him. And so I went out to get a

1450
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: cake one time for my son's birthday. And then we

1451
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: had like the party in that fucking mall again and everything,

1452
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: Like if not for that mall, I don't think they

1453
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: could have done that shit. But then I mean, and

1454
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: then the postgame party was like was people that were

1455
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: at the game, like not us, and we took the bus,

1456
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: but like everybody else, they had to walk outside. And

1457
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: so I remember my my wife's cousin got a beer

1458
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: like knocked over on him at the game, and so

1459
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: his jacket was by the time he got to the

1460
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: after party, it's fucking frozen, solid freezing. Yeah, there's a

1461
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: negative seventeen or something. Yeah, something like that. And so yeah,

1462
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, like we didn't even really witness what Minnesota

1463
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: was because we were just inside the whole time. It

1464
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: was And I like, there's like warm weather when you

1465
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 1: can get outside a little bit in February. Yeah, I

1466
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: appreciate that. So I don't think they'll be going back

1467
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: up there anytime. So let me trace back real quick.

1468
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,560
Speaker 4: I'm talking about those early two thousand Eagle teams and

1469
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 4: playing the Patriots during that time frame, there was kind

1470
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 4: of a rivalry with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Huh, what

1471
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 4: were your thoughts with about my Mike Alstatt in that

1472
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 4: time frame?

1473
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, oh my god, when I missed him on

1474
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: the fucking the mount rushmore a full back? Can you

1475
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: count him as a full back? Oh that's a great question, man,

1476
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 1: because like he was much more of a running back

1477
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: he was. Yeah, he looked like a fullback, but he

1478
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: still let lead blocked every once in a while. But

1479
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: when you also have Lorenzo O'Neil on that team, it's like, well,

1480
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 1: clearly the full back because someone's a Neil, But Mike alstop. Man,

1481
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: that motherfucker dude. Like putting the two of m in

1482
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: the backfield is that was fun? That I So every

1483
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: every game of my career, I watched two highlight tapes

1484
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: before every game, and when I was in college, I

1485
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: watched Ray Lewis and Brian Dawkins where there's a particular

1486
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: Brian Dawkins video called Weapon X where there's a little

1487
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: bit of like editing, and remember he comes out of

1488
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: the smoke at the link and they make his eyes

1489
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 1: red and I'm like, oh, it's me going right. So

1490
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: then I would. But then when I got to the

1491
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: NFL started playing fullback, I'll still watch weapon X. Then

1492
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: I'd also watch the A Train highlights and like when

1493
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: he's running through like the I think he had a

1494
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: crazy run against the Vikings or some shit all on

1495
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: the goal line where he's kind of bouncing around and

1496
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: then like I've seen that, and then like my first

1497
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: touchdown against the Texans in twenty thirteen, where I like

1498
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: got a bounce around all the way to the left stick,

1499
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: Like it's very similar, and I'm like, ah, man, But

1500
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: Mike Alstart's a fucking man, dude. He and I got

1501
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: a chance to meet him, got a chance to like

1502
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: share a couple of texts with that guy. And that's

1503
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: like a cherished connection I have because that he is

1504
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: like when everyone talks about fullbacks, it's like Michael, that's.

1505
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 2: That's so every fullback's dream is to be yeah, yeah, yeah,

1506
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 2: get the carries, get he blows up, he gets a

1507
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 2: lead blocker sometimes.

1508
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: God yeah, I mean the way he'd get his pads

1509
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: so goddamn low. He'd be running, but then his pads

1510
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: are like like eighteen inches off the ground, Like, yeah,

1511
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: there's one particular clip like I'll never I think he

1512
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: was against the Falcons and he just his like head

1513
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: is damn near touching the ground and he bucks like

1514
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 1: the safety and then like you know, recovers and runs

1515
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: it in for the rest of it. Like, yeah, he

1516
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: was just a crazy athlete, man, and just tough as

1517
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: nails and playing in that era of football when men

1518
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: were men, yeah.

1519
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 5: And women drag a jeep for a workout.

1520
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Yeah, let's get into this game. Did you

1521
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: ever did you ever block Dawkins or Ara Lewis?

1522
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 2: No?

1523
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 1: Never, No, got knocked up. Yeah, I've been in the

1524
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: building though when like when I was in Cincy, we

1525
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: played them obviously twice a year. So watching him come

1526
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: out in Baltimore, like that was a whole that was

1527
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 1: a whole thing.

1528
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 2: Was gonna be doing war dances, yeah ship.

1529
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. The Sugs was too good too, man like that sizzle. Yeah,

1530
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: they had they had a crew just wrecked. We didn't

1531
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: talk about read. Yeah, we used to play them twice

1532
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, all right, let's get into this thing.

1533
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 5: As painful as this might be for me, Uh we

1534
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 5: start this thing off. It's gonna be an offensive day.

1535
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 5: Philly gets going with a fourteen play, seven plus minute

1536
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 5: drive ends in three. We respond with three. Philly gets

1537
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 5: on the board first with the touchdown. A big LG

1538
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 5: run sets up on alshon Jeffrey TV. These are chunk plays, Babe,

1539
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 5: we got a we got a thirty something yard LG run.

1540
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 5: We had a thirty something yard alshon Jeffrey touchdown. Chunk

1541
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 5: plays takes us not in LG's running wild, takes us

1542
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 5: to the start of the second quarter. Bad operation Steve

1543
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 5: o missfield goal not good. Then that takes us to

1544
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 5: the next second drive of.

1545
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 1: The second quarter.

1546
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 5: Two notable moments here Brandon Cooks knocked out bad bad

1547
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 5: and then to pass back to Tom Dola, pass back

1548
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 5: to Tom off the fingertips that drive ins in the

1549
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 5: three n A four and now we go for it

1550
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 5: on fourth.

1551
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: Don't pick it up? That great now?

1552
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 4: To you guys as players, when like Josh is dialing

1553
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 4: up these like gadget plays, does that make you feel

1554
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 4: a certain way, like, oh, he feels like we need

1555
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 4: to do this to move the ball. Is it like

1556
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 4: sort of pride or anything like when a gadget players

1557
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 4: are getting called like this in a game, I know

1558
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 4: what I think, Yeah, legit means for first I mean

1559
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 4: I would say like I was never really involved with

1560
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 4: it when I was in the field, Like it was

1561
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 4: pretty much fucking basic plays, right, So, but I do

1562
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 4: feel like the excitement got ramped up, you know, like.

1563
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: Like butthole gets a little bit tighter because it's like

1564
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 1: we only got one shot at this, Like we can

1565
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: we can run on every other play multiple times, but

1566
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, this is like a once in

1567
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: a season type of opportunity. We've run it a couple

1568
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: times of practice, like it's worked, but let's see how

1569
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: this unfolds. And yeah, I mean, if you hit it,

1570
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: it's fucking great. But if you don't, then it's on

1571
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: this list.

1572
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 5: I think, especially early on in a game like this too.

1573
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,799
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, but I think that these types

1574
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 2: of games, especially the Super Bowl, you're emptying. You're emptying

1575
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 2: the clip. Yeah, so whenever you've had in all year long,

1576
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: that play could have been installed week three. Yeah, you know,

1577
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 2: just you know, like the double pass was installed week one,

1578
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 2: we had it called week three. We never ran it

1579
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 2: the way until we went to Baltimore. We needed it.

1580
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 2: When you go to these types of games, they're unloading

1581
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 2: the clip. There's anything you have in the playbook that

1582
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 2: you haven't used that may be a new wrinkle that

1583
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 2: they've never seen, you're probably gonna use.

1584
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 1: So it's almost telling that you can throw those kind

1585
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: of plays in.

1586
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 4: A Super Bowl that you didn't need it all year,

1587
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 4: that you were never in like such a situation.

1588
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,799
Speaker 1: Where we had to call those Okay, cool, that's interesting.

1589
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 5: No, I like that, And I mean I think Jeles

1590
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 5: made the throw.

1591
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: Those actually got good arms. He's got good arms. It

1592
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: looked good. It looked good.

1593
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 2: But uh, then that leads.

1594
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 5: Us to our next big moment of the half, which

1595
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 5: is the Philly Special.

1596
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: The situation, Philly's up.

1597
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 5: Fifteen to twelve at this point A James White TV

1598
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 5: has cut it to a three point game, thirty eight

1599
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 5: seconds left in the half, fourth and goal from the one.

1600
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 5: Philly lines up, calls a timeout after getting out there,

1601
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 5: seeing what the look looks like, and then you get

1602
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 5: Corey Clement direct snap Burton Burton to Foles twenty two

1603
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 5: to twelve going into the half.

1604
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 1: No thoughts on the Philly Special, It's just it's one

1605
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: of those plays that I've never been able to get

1606
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: away from, man, like going back home and the amount

1607
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 1: of fucking HOGI shops that have a HOGI called the

1608
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: Philly Special, Oh my god, always reminded of it. Man, Like,

1609
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, we got t shirts with the whole play

1610
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 1: on the back and with all this, Like it's just

1611
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: one of those fucking things. Man, It's like the thorn

1612
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: that you can never get out of your side. And uh,

1613
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 1: I mean, hey tip the cap to like them having

1614
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: the balls in that moment to do it. And you know,

1615
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 1: now you see that Foles kind of like called it

1616
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: himself and like that's you know, you have to pay

1617
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: your respects, but fucking name, man, Like if not for that, like,

1618
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: what what could have happened?

1619
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 2: Did that play? And going into half steel momentum? You

1620
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 2: think that may have I think accepted. I think rest

1621
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 2: of the outcome.

1622
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: I think so, I mean we all know that, like

1623
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: it's a game of two halves, right, you know, it's

1624
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: really like playing two games. And so that momentum, while

1625
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: it was created in that moment, I don't know how

1626
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: we came like if it affected us what coming back

1627
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 1: in the second half. I mean, obviously we we strike

1628
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 1: first and we score a touchdown right out right out

1629
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: of the second half kickoffs. So but it was tough,

1630
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: man that like that second quarter kind of did us

1631
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: in man, and like they're just the circumstantial nature of

1632
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: the game of football, Like how how does that? It's

1633
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: just it's not a it's not a good feeling going into.

1634
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 2: Half with that did what was the what was the

1635
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:43,719
Speaker 2: halftime speech?

1636
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't remember.

1637
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,919
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a pretty standard you were so standard,

1638
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 2: like all right, five minutes to yourselves, coaches go do

1639
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:56,679
Speaker 2: their thing, Yeah, three minutes, six minutes or whatever, five

1640
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 2: more minutes together O D. And then you come in

1641
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 2: as a team. You get like one minute and then

1642
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 2: you're back. Yeah, but it's a little longer than halftime.

1643
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna say the there was there

1644
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: was definitely like a difference in this game. I felt

1645
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: like of like obviously the excitement of this playing in

1646
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl is like pretty fucking intense. Like I

1647
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,440
Speaker 1: remember the first one I played in and against Seattle,

1648
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 1: Like when you go out the warm ups, you can

1649
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 1: just feel that like electricity in you, but you gotta

1650
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: like tamper it because if you know it's not a sprint,

1651
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 1: but at this time, at this time, and like my

1652
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 1: experience in this game was like this was the third

1653
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: one I played in, so like that kind of started

1654
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: the wane and it was almost like, oh, it's it's

1655
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 1: expected for us to be here. But these guys I

1656
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 1: felt like they were fucking capitalizing on that energy. Like

1657
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: I'll never forget first quarter, our first drive that ended

1658
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: in a field goal. We got we got going like

1659
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 1: pretty good and we were in three wide. It was

1660
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 1: me and James White on the field and we go like,

1661
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: hurry up after like a I think we had like

1662
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: a nine yard catch. I forget who caught it, but

1663
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: a nine yard and we got into the red zone

1664
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 1: second in one and we go like, no huddle, We'll

1665
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: go glass right. So it was in a way block

1666
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 1: Nigel Bradham, who I'd blocked in Buffalo for years, like

1667
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 1: good quality player, but I was like, I can make

1668
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: this block right. That motherfucker off the snap was like

1669
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: it was like he was moving at a different speed

1670
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 1: and he my job on that play is to either

1671
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: like cut him off seiling to the backside or push

1672
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: him past. Well, he like beat me across my face

1673
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: and tackled James right behind me for no gain, and

1674
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: it was second and one, and then with third and

1675
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 1: one and we didn't convert. We ended up kicking the

1676
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 1: field goal. And I think about that play so often

1677
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: because it's like, had I made that block, had we

1678
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: got that first down? Do we score go up seven

1679
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: to three? And how does that change the dynamic of that?

1680
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 1: And then and then you want to fucking butterfly effect it,

1681
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 1: and it's like, do we win this game? Does does

1682
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 1: Jason Kelcey? Does the Philly Special never happen?

1683
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 6: Do?

1684
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't have to go home and fucking order sandwiches

1685
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: with turkey and projuto on it. That's called the Philly

1686
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: Special at my favorite HOGI shop. Erniston songs down to

1687
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 1: Brigantine or like? Or like? Does Kelsey not do the

1688
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: Mummers speech? Does Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey? Then it

1689
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 1: gets together if I make this a whole different universe.

1690
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 2: No, that isn't that the mind? Isn't that the worst

1691
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 2: thing about being an like mentality mentality wise as being

1692
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 2: an athlete. I think of the plays I didn't make more, yeah,

1693
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 2: I think of the plays I.

1694
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: Made, Oh absolutely, because yeah, that's the ship that like

1695
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 1: just sticks with chick free.

1696
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 2: Are we greedy?

1697
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, but it's the mentality that

1698
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 1: you need to have to become a three time super

1699
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 1: Bowl champion. Right. If you're falling in love with the outcome,

1700
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: you'll never get there, you know, right, Yeah, that's right.

1701
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 1: You gotta love the process, man, And we loved the

1702
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 1: process of like trying to continuously get better. And this

1703
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: game was such a low point in my career, like

1704
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: because I was so lucky I came in when I

1705
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: started playing. We got to the Super Bowl, we wont

1706
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: it miraculously on Malcolm's catch or interception, I mean, and

1707
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: then we go back we like pull the fucking twenty

1708
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: eight to three out of our ass. And then it's

1709
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: just like I never knew like what the feeling was

1710
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: to lose one of these and then to finally have

1711
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: it happen to my hometown team going home in the

1712
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: offseason and just witness it, like couldn't get away from

1713
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: the parade. I went home on that Tuesday, and the

1714
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: parade's on Thursday, and now all of a sudden, like

1715
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: I can't get away from it. I can't fucking shake it.

1716
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 1: Every every block corner had like a different you know,

1717
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: merch sir Bowl fifty two chant merch shit, and I

1718
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: just couldn't get away from I still can't now that

1719
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: they wont l I X Like the fifty two is

1720
01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: like a little bit deafened.

1721
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 4: So that's not I but uh yeah, there's also all

1722
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 4: that like news stories afterwards about like, oh, we can

1723
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:05,759
Speaker 4: win super Bowls.

1724
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: And be fun and have the time. It was like

1725
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: so like pointed at you guys.

1726
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I came in remember that.

1727
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to ask on the board is fun? Yeah?

1728
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: We stayed there for like two years.

1729
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all the bitching about, oh you got Chris

1730
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 2: long Over.

1731
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so much fun.

1732
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:36,600
Speaker 4: But you can't sustain you can't sustain that.

1733
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 5: They had two touchdowns in this game, that we're fucking bullshit.

1734
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: Let's get into that. Yeah, I've always saw that Corey Clement. Yes,

1735
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 1: the back of the end lodges.

1736
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's on the form, but it moves to the risk.

1737
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 5: Didn't just just move like it's moving. It's being bobbled

1738
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 5: in its foots out of hounds.

1739
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 1: And then and then the ERTs play. So you want

1740
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: we beat Pittsburgh like a year later on the same

1741
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 1: exactly ship. Yes, but you know, like see James right

1742
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 1: and get the inconsistently, but it bounces up and it's like,

1743
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's like we caught it right,

1744
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 1: so this momentum and then to be fair for our

1745
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: non Patriots fans, like you can make that talk about

1746
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 1: Butterfly that you can make the same play our conversation

1747
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: about the Jacksonville.

1748
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 4: Afybe there's some stuff here and you get some, you

1749
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 4: lose some.

1750
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 2: So like even just the Snowbowl games, yes, right, you

1751
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 2: know if Tom doesn't get the just all butterfly hat.

1752
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: Are we even here? We're not even here. We're not

1753
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 1: here a.

1754
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 2: Little hovey shop in fucking Philly. I'm over at my

1755
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 2: dad's mechanics shop, washing windows.

1756
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 5: You can be with three in one game? Like what

1757
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 5: are we doing, Philly special?

1758
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: Illegal formation? Throw the flag?

1759
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 5: I'm going on, I'm just gonna cook here. What legacy game?

1760
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 5: Legacy game? This guy comes out of nowhere, out of bounds?

1761
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 5: Also er not a football move in complete pass? Three

1762
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 5: in one game?

1763
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 1: Come on, man, And I don't want to be sour great.

1764
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know, but I like, you know, because

1765
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: I got to go back to Phillip Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1766
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 1: Like I know, all my family go to see this

1767
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: and they're like, what are you talking so much shit?

1768
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 1: But it's a I mean, you got a tip the cap.

1769
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 1: Like they the underdog mentality. They just had a different

1770
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: a different fucking speed. I felt like we were it

1771
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 1: was kind of becoming old hat for us, and like

1772
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: the just the amount of intensity that they had and

1773
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 1: they were playing like they're just being aggressive and then

1774
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: like in the end of the game, Man like to

1775
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 1: seal it defensively with Graham coming off off the edge

1776
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: and like getting getting Tom for forcing that fumble. Man

1777
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 1: Like they just they had that like that like underdog

1778
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,719
Speaker 1: mentality where they're just gonna leave it all in the field.

1779
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 1: And we kind of were like we were there a

1780
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: bunch of times and it was becoming like a little

1781
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 1: bit less intense for us. So what did you know

1782
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 1: it was gonna be a shootout? I didn't know it.

1783
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: I just I kept thinking watching the Eagles go through

1784
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: the the Super Bowl, like this Nick Foles magic has

1785
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 1: to eventually wear off, right, Like he's not he wasn't

1786
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback at that time, and it was just

1787
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: like like you see you see backups like they'll have

1788
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: their runs and then all of a sudden it's like, oh,

1789
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: you get reminded why he's not a starter. But Foles,

1790
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: man like, he just took advantage of every opportunity and

1791
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 1: even in this game, like you kind of were always

1792
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: expecting like Tomil tom Will at the upper hand and

1793
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: but combined like Foles and just his consistency in that

1794
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 1: run with the intensity of the defense, it was it

1795
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 1: was a respectful game.

1796
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 4: So you think that, like usually the conversations with Super

1797
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 4: Bowls is like teams who have been there before, like

1798
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 4: you know, the lights aren't as bright and they's it's

1799
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 4: a you know, a value to have experience it. But

1800
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 4: you think you guys were watch three Super Bowls in

1801
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 4: four years and they were had that jewice that actually

1802
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 4: affected the outcome of the game.

1803
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean it seemed it man like, it just felt

1804
01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 1: like their defense was fucking like and on another level,

1805
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 1: man like, it it was. Uh it was it was

1806
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 1: something I mean like Cook's getting knocked out, like I remember, Uh,

1807
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: Malcolm was covering me on that play. It was hasty juke.

1808
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: I ran the hitch on the outside and Malcolm came

1809
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 1: off to hit the juke and it just oh man,

1810
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 1: like that that knocks the way in that ear. What's

1811
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: your mulligan play there? It is the block, Okay, it's

1812
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: I mean, there was nothing I could do on Cooks

1813
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 1: getting knocked out, Like I followed Jenkins to the play

1814
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 1: and like, but at that point he was already down.

1815
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, And like you said, I mean that defense was

1816
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 5: made the big play at the biggest moment when couldn't

1817
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 5: really get pressure on Brady all day. And then on

1818
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,600
Speaker 5: that last drive the strip sack which sets up the

1819
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 5: field goal, which pushes it to forty one thirty three,

1820
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 5: and then we come back and have a chance at

1821
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 5: the end with that Hail Mary to Robbie G at

1822
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 5: the end.

1823
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: That was close this game. It does.

1824
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 2: He almost had two Hail Mary's Super Bowls. Yes, Giants

1825
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 2: wof he didn't have the Giant if he didn't have

1826
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 2: his sprained ankle in that Giants one.

1827
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 1: Butterfly fuc Yeah, he would have caught that. I am one.

1828
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 2: Thousand percent sure rob would have caught that.

1829
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,640
Speaker 1: And we got to give our flowers to Robbi g

1830
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 1: for this second half. He put on here one catch

1831
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:15,759
Speaker 1: in the first half.

1832
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 5: Second half two touchdowns, one hundred and six into the

1833
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 5: game with nine catches one hundred and sixteen yards, two

1834
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 5: tuddies first half, one catch for nine yards.

1835
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: So I mean Robbie glad.

1836
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 5: Man, Holy smokes, he putting up junior rice numbers.

1837
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 1: And Tom had five hundred yards five yards.

1838
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 5: I mean, just incredible. Over a eleven hundred total yards

1839
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 5: offense in this game. Speaking of crazy offensive performances, no

1840
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 5: one can stop anything on defense. It's worth noting Malcolm

1841
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 5: Butler did not play in this game. Not going to

1842
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 5: any sort of conspiracy theories.

1843
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 1: But we don't have to get into it, but it

1844
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: needs to be said. He said he didn't play, not playing,

1845
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 1: and I were We wasn't there, so I don't I

1846
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: just you hang out, got in the booth. I mean,

1847
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,679
Speaker 1: I remember the realization that he wasn't on the field,

1848
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:09,799
Speaker 1: like and asking around like, hey, why is Malcolm not playing?

1849
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 1: No one, no one knew. And then we had the

1850
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty nine reunion was the last year and

1851
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: he was in house and I had like a moment

1852
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 1: with him or it was just me and him. I

1853
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: was like, no, just tell me, Like I won't say anything,

1854
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 1: but like, tell me why you didn't play, And he's like, dude,

1855
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I wish I could tell you,

1856
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 1: but I don't know. And yeah, I mean no one

1857
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 1: finally knows. Crazier is he just deny until he dies?

1858
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 1: Maybe left to buy the book.

1859
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 5: To buy the book, see the movie, See the movie, man,

1860
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 5: I just got to say. Final score forty one thirty three.

1861
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 5: The Eagles win their first Super Bowl or it was

1862
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:55,839
Speaker 5: their first title since.

1863
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 2: The night.

1864
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: There for that one about three in a row? How

1865
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,600
Speaker 1: much did how much did this game lead into the

1866
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: next season? I think a lot. Yeah, personally, I took

1867
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: this one. I took this one like and wore it

1868
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 1: for a while and let it like stew and fucking

1869
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,680
Speaker 1: motivate me. And I came back and I think I

1870
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 1: was playing some of the best football that next year.

1871
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 1: And then we went back and won it. Man, And

1872
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 1: like the Eagles kind of they weren't able to like

1873
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 1: pick themselves up after this one, and so I I

1874
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 1: kind of hang my hat on that when I go

1875
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 1: back around and people start talking about the Super Bowl

1876
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: fifty two and like like, yeah, well what happened the

1877
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 1: next year? You know? But that's all I got, because

1878
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 1: they got us in this one. So you got to

1879
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 1: pay your respect where respect is due. But and this

1880
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: is their first super Bowl win. Yeah, that's pretty big.

1881
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 5: It is the last one was nineteen sixty the NFL

1882
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:55,719
Speaker 5: Championship games. They took down another legendary quarterback, head coach

1883
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:57,879
Speaker 5: duo Bart Starr and Vince Lombardi.

1884
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:00,559
Speaker 1: See no, that was.

1885
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 5: For Super Bowl its correct, yea after man, and this

1886
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:12,440
Speaker 5: was forty one to thirty three. As we mentioned the aftermath,

1887
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 5: offensive performance like we've never seen before.

1888
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 1: Philly wins our first super Bowl in franchise history.

1889
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 5: Nick Foles goes from backup to Super Bowl MVP insane,

1890
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 5: a recordat who's got a statue man, unbelievable and fifty

1891
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 5: one yards of offense most in any NFL game ever

1892
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, and then the Patriots set the record

1893
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:40,639
Speaker 5: for most yards in a Super Bowl six hundred and thirteen,

1894
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 5: most points scored by a losing team thirty three.

1895
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 1: We talked about Dola.

1896
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 5: In this amazing game he had this this super Bowl,

1897
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 5: awesome AFC Championship game. He would leave to go to

1898
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 5: Miami in the offseason, get that check, Dola, and then

1899
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 5: the Patriots would come back next year wipe that sour

1900
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,639
Speaker 5: taste out of their mouth and beat the Rams thirteen

1901
01:37:59,640 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 5: to three.

1902
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty three.

1903
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 5: Flash forward to twenty twenty four, Philly would get their

1904
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 5: second Super Bowl, beating the Chiefs forty to twenty two.

1905
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 1: In cleaning house too, new coach, new quarterbacks. I mean

1906
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 1: they know more impressively. Yeah yeah, and that's then they're yeah,

1907
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,639
Speaker 1: that's been a little bit of solid. Yeah, going back

1908
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: there now and like living in Philly, yeah, is that

1909
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 1: like there's no more signs of that team anymore? Because

1910
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 1: I got Super Salty. I was like, fuck these Yeah,

1911
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 1: it's like got it. I don't like any of them.

1912
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: And now they got a whole new team and it's

1913
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:34,639
Speaker 1: like now I can roof for you guys, like thank you.

1914
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: It's Barkley sick Penn State, Like yeah, yeah yeah, and

1915
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 1: they got like they got guys that are it's fun

1916
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: to root for them now, you know, And like my boys,

1917
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 1: they they're fucking wearing Jalen Hurts and Sikwon Barkley AJ

1918
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 1: Brown jerseys and shit, and I'm like, hey, you know,

1919
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 1: have fun, have fun because this is a good Like

1920
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 1: if you're going to be a football guy growing up,

1921
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 1: like you want to have fandom where it's like your

1922
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 1: team's out there winning games. So you know what, if

1923
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 1: it was the Path, so be it. If it's the Eagles,

1924
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 1: so be it. Like it's football, man, I still like

1925
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: to see so Like I'm a Niners fan, I like

1926
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 1: to see nine Ers do absolutely great a bowl. Yeah,

1927
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 1: it's funny. AG.

1928
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 2: I don't think you gotta be the same way though, Like, yeah,

1929
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 2: once you get here, your fandom you kind of lose that. Yeah,

1930
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 2: But then once you retire, you kind of gravitate because

1931
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 2: you're in the group text with all your fucking friends

1932
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 2: back home. So then you're like, all right, but I'm

1933
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 2: not gonna sit here and go buy a fucking.

1934
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: Jersey exactly, wear a hat, yeah, or a Niners hat.

1935
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:35,720
Speaker 1: You can't wear another man's jersey. Yeah. Yeah. Once you're there, now,

1936
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 1: let's creat this game. Let's let's put it on. Can

1937
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 1: I get one last one in?

1938
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 5: For guess I'd be remiss a man that knows how

1939
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 5: to block his ass off.

1940
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on the toush push? Oh man, that's

1941
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 1: that's the hot button topic now. I mean, I just

1942
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 1: think right now, the Eagles are so fucking good at

1943
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 1: running in it, and there's a lot of like sour grapes,

1944
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 1: talk about sar grapes, just people that can't stop it.

1945
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 1: Like the rules. Yes, it's a tough it's a tough

1946
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: play to officiate, but like I mean, you got the

1947
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:10,679
Speaker 1: chance to officiate it, like I mean, fucking then do it. Yeah,

1948
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 1: starts call them like you got to do businesses. Business

1949
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 1: is being done, and so like you either stop it

1950
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 1: while it's still illegal play or you don't and you

1951
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 1: get beat on it. But like let's fucking move it

1952
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 1: down the road. Like let's stop talking about it. If

1953
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,759
Speaker 1: you want to make decisions after this season. I didn't

1954
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: have it. It's in this year. Learn how to stop it.

1955
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:37,759
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break.

1956
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,839
Speaker 2: Let's name the game. It's called the Philly Special. Phillies

1957
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 2: first defense, defense optional, somebody get a stop or something else.

1958
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 2: What do you think of it?

1959
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 1: As, oh, man, I mean like the Philly Special. Obviously

1960
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 1: that's the moniker that you always hear about that one

1961
01:40:56,320 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 1: particular play. But like I think, like the city the

1962
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 1: city of Philadelphia is the city of brother they love, right,

1963
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 1: and like at that point, it was like it was

1964
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 1: like a little brother beaten, like the big Brother where

1965
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 1: it's like you still kind of got to tip your

1966
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: cap tome, but like if you fucking it hurts you,

1967
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:17,640
Speaker 1: it's a thorn in your side, Like you want your

1968
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 1: little brother beating you, you know, So like something along

1969
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 1: those lines where it's like, I don't know, like little

1970
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 1: brother beat everybody. I mean, not to like veto or

1971
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 1: step in. It's got to be the Philly Special. Like

1972
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 1: that's what it's like called. Like, yeah, if you say

1973
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 1: the Philly Special, anyone's special, you're right, Yeah, You're right,

1974
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 1: the Philly I was trying to get. I was trying

1975
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: to get cute Jews loves a pun around.

1976
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but score the game is just the greatest game

1977
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 2: of all time. Let's score its decimals. Encourage Jimmy Steaks

1978
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 2: zero to ten.

1979
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's the super Bowl, It's it's the big one, right,

1980
01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 1: so Steaks, let's go. Let's go nine point zero. I

1981
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 1: think it's like a nine to three game.

1982
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 4: Because you got back to backs on the back for

1983
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 4: the other.

1984
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I went nine to one. I went nine to two.

1985
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:15,440
Speaker 1: Star power, I mean between between like our two teams.

1986
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 1: Obviously like Wentz going down, but they had a lot

1987
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 1: of they had a lot of star power, especially now

1988
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 1: like as guys transition into like their post playing career.

1989
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you weren't there, but we still had

1990
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go eight six. That's a great score.

1991
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 1: I mean Brady like Nick Fole, I.

1992
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 2: Mean, and look at what he's done now, Nick Folk.

1993
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 2: Is that like, yes, you got some Hall of Fame lineman. Yeah,

1994
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 2: you got Kelsey's probably Lane Johnson. Lane Johnson's gonna go

1995
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 2: in there. Yeah they had, I mean, I'm sure like

1996
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 2: gonna go Phillie. Celebrities were probably eight point two point two.

1997
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 1: That's a little low over.

1998
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 5: The nine to zero four.

1999
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: I wasn't in it.

2000
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't game play the game this. I mean, this

2001
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 2: is a fucking game to watch.

2002
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember in the at the the postgame party

2003
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: saying like, hey, I know we lost this, but this

2004
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 1: was a good game for the game of football. Like,

2005
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 1: what a fucking entertaining game to watch, right, So I'm

2006
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 1: gonna give that like a like a nine to four,

2007
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 1: nine to five. Actually, it doesn't get much better, man,

2008
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 1: I'll give it a nine flat. I mean, no defense nine.

2009
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,599
Speaker 4: I will say the strip sack happened a little too early.

2010
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 4: And the you know, like that was like on the

2011
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 4: twenty yard lines.

2012
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:43,679
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, on the seven nine, I went a point

2013
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 5: nine hour grapes our grapes.

2014
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: Some of the controversial calls I think takes away a

2015
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 1: little bit the name of the game. Cultural reverence. I

2016
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:56,679
Speaker 1: mean this is for everyone. Reverance. No, I can't say relevant,

2017
01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 1: irrelevant relevance. Not a brown guy, Yeah, we're hey Kent State. Man,

2018
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,679
Speaker 1: didn't you there? No, I dated a girl from Kent State. Yeah.

2019
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 1: Men aand spring Break spent some some time out in

2020
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 1: like Northeast Ohio. Yeah yeah, yeah.

2021
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 2: Man, welcome, get you a Rockneys go to Rockney's now.

2022
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:21,759
Speaker 1: We went up to uh, what's that? What's that amusement

2023
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 1: park up on the later Yeah, and then put In Bay.

2024
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 1: I particularly remember that where they don't have cars or

2025
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 1: some ship. You gotta like drive golf carts everywhere. We

2026
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: went up to put In Bay, like either before or

2027
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:37,600
Speaker 1: after Cedar Point or Cedar Point was Yeah, name of

2028
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:40,639
Speaker 1: the game. Got a statue for it, Yeah, I got

2029
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 1: a statue. I mean it's as much as it pains me,

2030
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:47,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it eight five.

2031
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 2: I mean it's more like an eight nine. People know

2032
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:55,639
Speaker 2: this people. And I know it's only fucking nine years ago,

2033
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 2: eight years ago. These people know this game.

2034
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 1: They know it. Yeah, I think you little, I think

2035
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 1: he's your soul.

2036
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 5: At a touch, James said, this is a field day

2037
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 5: for every every jack. This is I had a nine

2038
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 5: point zero.

2039
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 4: At a nine point three, so total it is an

2040
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:14,759
Speaker 4: eight point eighty six.

2041
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 1: That is our new twelfth game. Twelfth overall.

2042
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 4: See just behind up sorry, just behind Choke at the

2043
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 4: Doke and just ahead of superow eighteen Raiders versus Redskins

2044
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 4: our new twelfth game.

2045
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 1: Tom Brady twelfth. It's a loss.

2046
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 4: And also if you're like a choking the dough is

2047
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 4: tied with the two thousand and four ali Alcs game

2048
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 4: four Yankees Red Sox.

2049
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: This is our highest Patriots loss, I believe. Yeah, wow, wow.

2050
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 4: I mean it should be because yeah, honestly it should

2051
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 4: be a touch higher to it could be even higher.

2052
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,720
Speaker 2: I hate this game, yeah yeah, I mean for the

2053
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 2: relevance of football. This is because Philadelphia is a cornerstone team.

2054
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 2: They're like one of the original team. Yeah, you've been

2055
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 2: there since the forties or something, right, Yeah, I don't

2056
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 2: know exactly before sixty Yeah, before the Patriots Grease, Jimmy,

2057
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:11,679
Speaker 2: we missed anything from this game?

2058
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 1: No, man, I think we got it. I think it's

2059
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:17,800
Speaker 1: it's time to go to put it to bed. That

2060
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: ax is around like they can cheer about that. Man,

2061
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, but I don't think we missed anything.

2062
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:29,719
Speaker 1: You don't have one last question? Sure? What does football

2063
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:33,560
Speaker 1: mean to you? Oh? Man? Football's Football's given me a

2064
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 1: lot in my life. Man, I am very very thankful

2065
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 1: and just appreciative for the game. It's putting me in

2066
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:45,640
Speaker 1: the room with a lot of special individuals, yourself included,

2067
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 1: just kind of like being able to sponge up and

2068
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 1: learn not only how to be a better football player,

2069
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 1: but how to be a better man, how to take

2070
01:46:54,600 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 1: accountability for things, you know, and just the accountabil it

2071
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 1: that it requires, man like when you're fucking sore and

2072
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:06,759
Speaker 1: tired and you still got to fucking put the pads

2073
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 1: on and go back out there for a too a

2074
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: day Like when we first started. Man Like, that was

2075
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 1: like the that was the era of football that that

2076
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:16,600
Speaker 1: I just will always cherish and the fact that we

2077
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 1: got to experience that. I feel like it's just we

2078
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 1: were the last of like that old guard where we

2079
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, like my first year in the UFL, we

2080
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 1: were doing to a days down in Orlando, and I

2081
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 1: remember sweating through fucking everything I had twice a day,

2082
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, man, like how much do I love

2083
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 1: the game of football? Well, I'm willing to do it

2084
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: for damn near free at that point, because I wasn't

2085
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 1: getting paid for training camp and I'm out there like

2086
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 1: just slamming my face in the people, trying to make

2087
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:44,000
Speaker 1: a name for myself, like who knows where this is

2088
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 1: gonna go? And then thankfully football line shit up where

2089
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 1: I was in the right spot at the right time

2090
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 1: and circumstantial nature at a game of football, and like

2091
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots were looking for a fullback they Josh previously

2092
01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 1: had had one in his in his offenses, and I

2093
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 1: was available at the right time, man, And so like god,

2094
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 1: fuck it, I love the game of football, man, like

2095
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 1: I I really one of my thought was my first

2096
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 1: retire was I wanted to write a book and just

2097
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:16,599
Speaker 1: call it like thank you football, and just and they

2098
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 1: collect the stories like I mean, this guy in the

2099
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 1: game of football myself, There's there's thousands of other stories

2100
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,600
Speaker 1: just like us where it's like that underdog, you know,

2101
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 1: like the Rocky story. I grew up in Philly. I

2102
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:31,760
Speaker 1: fucking Rocky Rocky is my favorite. I named my daughter Adrian, right,

2103
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 1: And it's like and I just like that underdog. That's

2104
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 1: what football's all about. And I feel like Philly had

2105
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 1: it in that game, which was unfortunate. I kind of

2106
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 1: stole that from us. But then we went back the

2107
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:46,599
Speaker 1: next week year we were like the underdogs again, you know,

2108
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 1: and we were the old team. We were the team

2109
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 1: that still didn't have but tom see, old Joles was

2110
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 1: fucking coming off of injury and all that. Like it was,

2111
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 1: but we that that we did it. That humanization of

2112
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 1: the game of football that I think oftentimes gets missed,

2113
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,320
Speaker 1: that is like the beautiful thing about it, man. And

2114
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 1: I think we gotta, like, we gotta we gotta feel

2115
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 1: that like that you said like that. I think he's

2116
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 1: a receiver quarterback and in Chicago that just got emotional

2117
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 1: when he's talking about how he got his contract and

2118
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 1: he's like about his dad or something like that type

2119
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 1: of like love. I mean, I fucking like loved you guys.

2120
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 1: That my team loves you too. I told I told

2121
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 1: before every game. I told the whole offense and damn

2122
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 1: near pretty much the entire team that I love them,

2123
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 1: like from face to face, Manda Man, I just to

2124
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 1: say like, yo, I love you, and then we go

2125
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:43,120
Speaker 1: out and do our thing, man, because like that's what

2126
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 1: it requires is love for the game, love of your teammates. Yeah.

2127
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 1: So I love the game of football. Man. It's it's

2128
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 1: a real football guy.

2129
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 4: Moved to pick this game too, Like that is you're

2130
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 4: so emotionally charged then you pick it's a loss, but

2131
01:49:57,479 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 4: you know what, it's a character move to pick this game. So,

2132
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 4: and I got one question for my fullback in high school,

2133
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 4: John the Cask, who grew up loved you. What goes

2134
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:10,879
Speaker 4: into your like fullback accoutremont selection, like the bull.

2135
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 1: Ring, the cowboy call, Like, what's what's the thought process

2136
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 1: behind it? Simple? I kept bending the top of my

2137
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 1: face mask on contact, and I have a collection of

2138
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 1: bent face masks. I still kept him. Mikey Redman in

2139
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 1: the equipment room used to always save it for me

2140
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 1: and put in my locker afterwards. So the bull ring

2141
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 1: just kind of helped stabilize that part, even though I

2142
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:33,439
Speaker 1: would continue to bend them in every once in a while.

2143
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 1: And then the cowboy collar slash brace that I wore.

2144
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:41,600
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people have like different perspectives on

2145
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 1: what to wear. I had like a stinger issue when

2146
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 1: I was in the UFL actually, and we had this

2147
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 1: this tight end that had played with the Jets and

2148
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:53,719
Speaker 1: he got this brace made when he got stingers gets.

2149
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 1: The Jets made it and he gave it to me

2150
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 1: and he was like, here, you have to screw it

2151
01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 1: into the top of your pads. And it's just like

2152
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 1: this little like three D printed looking thing and it

2153
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 1: just had like enough of a ridge where I could

2154
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 1: like lock my helmet on it, so then like when

2155
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm in my stance, I could like fucking put my

2156
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 1: base and my helmet on that thing, and then I

2157
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 1: couldn't go past that like on contact, so I would

2158
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 1: literally like run kind of like like my head and

2159
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 1: my shoulder pads were like connected, and then yeah, I can.

2160
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 1: I continued to have stinger problems. Then I got the

2161
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 1: Cowboy collar. Then that last year when I was dealing

2162
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 1: with the next stuff, like I've told you before, like

2163
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 1: I felt, I knew I was like slightly broken, and

2164
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:39,720
Speaker 1: so I was just trying to hide it as best

2165
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:42,720
Speaker 1: I could. I was stuffing like towels in there, like

2166
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 1: just trying to make it so my head like would

2167
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 1: not move back so I couldn't like turn to catch

2168
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 1: a pass, but I could still block every once in

2169
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 1: a while. But yeah, I mean it just it was

2170
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 1: like out of necessity, like I just continued to add

2171
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 1: more and more shit back there so I didn't have

2172
01:51:58,040 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 1: to do that anymore.

2173
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 2: And now everyone knows. This is just a little sneak

2174
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 2: peek why we were so good. Not everyone knows James

2175
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 2: Devlin in New England, but like it's pieces and it's

2176
01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:16,679
Speaker 2: people like him. Everyone was a leader in their own

2177
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 2: special way. Jimmy was an energy igniter. He was also

2178
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 2: a guy that didn't say much, but when he talked,

2179
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:29,799
Speaker 2: everyone listened. Like that's why we were who we were

2180
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 2: playing in our second Super Bowl in a row that

2181
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 2: we lost and going back and winning another one, winning

2182
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:38,639
Speaker 2: one three years before that. All the success is because

2183
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:41,880
Speaker 2: the guys like Jimmy, you know, And that's something. He

2184
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 2: was one of the best teammates I've ever had. He

2185
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 2: always he could always read you, and like he'd always

2186
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 2: pump me up if I if I was like down

2187
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 2: or out, you know what I mean. You could read

2188
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:54,919
Speaker 2: my energy, real well shared experience.

2189
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:58,679
Speaker 1: Man. I think that's just the human nature of this game. Dude.

2190
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 1: We're all guy going through life together, like in the

2191
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 1: same young men like I I young guy. I recently

2192
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 1: heard this thing about like how it's hard to make

2193
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 1: friends as an adult, right, like our whole childhood you're

2194
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:14,679
Speaker 1: with like people that are your age kind of going

2195
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:16,960
Speaker 1: through the same things in life, right, and then when

2196
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 1: you're an adult, like you lose that because then you're working,

2197
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 1: you're in like this corporate structure on the game of football.

2198
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 1: We're all the same age, we're all going through life

2199
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 1: at the same time. We're all going through the same

2200
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 1: experience and on the field in our job, and so

2201
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 1: it's just it's a special fucking community that it builds, right,

2202
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:38,479
Speaker 1: and then like we get to see you got to

2203
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:40,760
Speaker 1: see me start a family, Like I got to see

2204
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 1: you have have Lily, and then like we then bond

2205
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 1: even deeper on those kinds of things, and like, well,

2206
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 1: she's what like eight now, then I got an eight

2207
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 1: year old at home, Like he's I'm grooming them. Man,

2208
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 1: He's a handsome old dude. You know. He just had

2209
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 1: a nice little catch in his game on Sunday shout out.

2210
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 1: He was pumped the first time I ever saw him

2211
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 1: line up outside go Yeah, they got will out lined

2212
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 1: up out on the edge. He runs a go quarterback

2213
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 1: dimes the other nine years old. I'm like, dimes it

2214
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 1: to him. He catches it over his shoulder, runs and

2215
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 1: then hits like a first down like Can Newton. I'm like,

2216
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:20,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, this swag. This he's like, he's he's

2217
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 1: kind of got that Danny coolness, you know what. It

2218
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 1: doesn't even like a gold chain. He can't teach cool.

2219
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm not like a gold chain guy, but he wears

2220
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:31,679
Speaker 1: a gold chain. I put like a little I cut

2221
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 1: his hair, so I put like a little lightning bolt

2222
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 1: in the side. And but then Jimmy's like, Jimmy's like

2223
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 1: a little man. I mean, I could go on and

2224
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 1: on about my kids. I don't want ways start trying here.

2225
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, bro, Thanks for having coming. Everyone.

2226
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 1: Go check out Soulberry in Ocean City and briging teenaw

2227
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 1: Jersey down to Jersey shore man.

2228
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 2: Jersey freaking short laundry. That's right, don't get you one.

2229
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 2: Thanks Jimmy for.

2230
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 1: Coming on with Thanks trapping man, I love you too.

2231
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 1: Brother man.

2232
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 2: That was an awesome episode with James Devlan and we're

2233
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 2: we're sitting here, we're arguing, how like one of the

2234
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 2: dumbest smart guys I've ever met. Seriously, you're going to

2235
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 2: say that no, because Jimmy he's so intell. He's like

2236
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 2: the smartest guy, but he's dumb enough to try to

2237
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 2: put towels in his neck when like doctor's basically saying, hey, dude,

2238
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 2: you if you do this, you're you're not gonna be

2239
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 2: able to walk, and he's like trying to maneuver a

2240
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 2: way to be able to go still knock his head

2241
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 2: into someone else. Like that's what a fullback is. Just

2242
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 2: it's still a fullback when we have new fullbacks. When

2243
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 2: he retired, I had to keep on. I say, hey, man,

2244
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 2: I said, if you ain't knocking yourself out every goddamn play,

2245
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 2: and you don't got little mechanisms to make your neck

2246
01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:57,200
Speaker 2: not snap back, this ain't your job.

2247
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 4: This isn't for you getting something three HE printed to

2248
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 4: prevent like long term like neck and headergy is the.

2249
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 1: Perfect example of dumb smart.

2250
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 4: Right, you're smart enough to get something three D printed

2251
01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 4: that you can lock in, but like to bash your

2252
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 4: head against them.

2253
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 2: No, he's he's the best human being. Man, He's awesome.

2254
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 2: He really was an unbelievable teammate. Just a fucking he's

2255
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 2: a foxhole guy. He's you know, anytime anything, any situation

2256
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 2: all Jimmy was there ready.

2257
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 5: Honestly, Bro loves football, knows football.

2258
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 1: What a guy.

2259
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 2: And he's just he's a movie care he loves really family,

2260
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 2: loves his wife, he loves it. I just love him.

2261
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 2: He's great people energy. Like, at what point do you

2262
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 2: are you born a fullback? Do you become like he

2263
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 2: is just Oozer's fullback?

2264
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:46,720
Speaker 5: To me, it's kind of like those people that like

2265
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 5: you start looking like your dog after you buy the doll,

2266
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like which one is it

2267
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 5: a chicken or the egg thing?

2268
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 2: It's incredible. I don't know that's a fullback right there.

2269
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 1: Give him a long time to get there.

2270
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Lorenzo and Neill looks like a full back.

2271
01:56:57,640 --> 01:57:01,960
Speaker 1: He kind of jamis Wressell? Is he wrestler?

2272
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 2: We didn't even ask.

2273
01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that was.

2274
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 2: He was track Like what a terrible journalist? I am

2275
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 2: terrible journalist.

2276
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

2277
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 2: I just know I think if he tried, he box.

2278
01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:15,960
Speaker 2: He boxes the guy like he just loves feeling. He

2279
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 2: loves brothers. Did you see that? Like he he looked

2280
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 2: at me when he said that. I almost started crying.

2281
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:24,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, bro, he's on some four brothers Mark Wahlberg type.

2282
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:30,040
Speaker 2: Wahlberg type. He I think he loved that movie because

2283
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:33,560
Speaker 2: we were in the leg. He loved that movie. He

2284
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:36,880
Speaker 2: loved All Timer. Dude, dude, I want to talk some more.

2285
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:41,600
Speaker 2: Florida tusters Man and WIGGI down. Then that's crazy, ufl

2286
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:43,800
Speaker 2: is Man. What a what a journey, what a story?

2287
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 1: Wow? Playing for free in Orlando Soulberry, Everyone go check

2288
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:47,960
Speaker 1: it out.

2289
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 5: But he said in the preseason and Invaders out there

2290
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 5: just clanging and banging for the.

2291
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 2: Playing in and banging. We need to chill out, guys

2292
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:55,440
Speaker 2: before we do that.

2293
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 4: I just want to say, just because for our non

2294
01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:01,600
Speaker 4: Patriots fans, this is a while the Patriots played in

2295
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 4: this game super Bowl fifty two. They were not the winners, right,

2296
01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 4: so we didn't fully give this game the full games

2297
01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:11,840
Speaker 4: with the name experiences it deserves. So let's take this

2298
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:13,920
Speaker 4: be an opportunity to get Nick Foles in the show.

2299
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 4: So just let's get Nick Foles to tell his side

2300
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 4: for this game. I suspect it'll go higher up in

2301
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 4: our rankings. Twelve is too low. But yeah, all right,

2302
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 4: we're not We're doing more episodes with more people in

2303
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 4: just different perspective.

2304
01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 1: So we have to get the Eagle.

2305
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 2: I know we needed pretty Jason Kelsey, Doug Peterson or

2306
01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:35,840
Speaker 2: he was from He was already first one he had

2307
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:36,440
Speaker 2: one before.

2308
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 1: No, no, he wasn't.

2309
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 2: Jason Kelsey was here and then yeah, but then they lost.

2310
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:44,120
Speaker 1: He missed this last he lost in the Kelsey ball. Yeah.

2311
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:45,879
Speaker 1: I wonder if you'ld do that one anyways, though.

2312
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 4: So we do need to get the Eagles perspective on this,

2313
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 4: so we should also, I will say, put a bow

2314
01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 4: on this.

2315
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 5: Use our publishing arm of Nuthouse to help him publish

2316
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 5: Thank you Football, thank you. That sounds like our kind

2317
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 5: of book. We got it House Publishing, an imprint of

2318
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 5: Simon and Schuster. We gotta thanks for our first ball

2319
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 5: sick coffee table book. Imagine you walk into someone's cribnts

2320
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:10,560
Speaker 5: on their coffee table ball noer, immediate ballnoer ball noer.

2321
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:16,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah man, insertion point. He got really excited question.

2322
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm all about some insertion point. Man, it's time.

2323
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:23,839
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Speaker 2: w N and celebrate responsibly.

2326
01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, cheers, tay guy. What do we doing? Taste

2327
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:38,880
Speaker 1: so good?

2328
01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 2: Would it hit your what we got right now?

2329
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 5: Sit this old chill line, hot line, whatever you want

2330
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 5: to call it. Let's get let's hear from the people.

2331
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 5: We haven't answered any of these in a while. The

2332
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 5: answering machine was filling up.

2333
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:55,040
Speaker 3: Duel Jackie Tyler, Eric from Detroit. I got a question

2334
01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 3: before done more.

2335
01:59:57,040 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 2: Weight, Dan Campbell, oh M C D C or Vrabes

2336
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 2: pushing more away. See, I don't know Dan Campbell, no

2337
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 2: like you know, he looks the part. He was a

2338
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:17,280
Speaker 2: tight end. You know he played in the league.

2339
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:20,839
Speaker 1: I know Rabel. I know the lore of Rabel.

2340
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 2: I've seen Rabel, and I know the medical staff that

2341
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:30,000
Speaker 2: treated verybel like he.

2342
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:30,560
Speaker 1: Was supposed to.

2343
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:33,520
Speaker 2: He's like iron, He's supposed to be like a wolverine.

2344
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:38,280
Speaker 2: This guy he had like unreal wind. He never got tired.

2345
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:42,640
Speaker 2: That's what always the lore of Rabel. In the locker room,

2346
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 2: he had long ass arms, he's set an edge. And

2347
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:51,600
Speaker 2: so if you think about it, defensive ends or like

2348
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 2: outside linebackers, when they have a tight end on them,

2349
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 2: they think it's a mismatch. They usually toss those guys

2350
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:03,440
Speaker 2: around them. There's only a select few guys that are untossable.

2351
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:06,080
Speaker 2: Was Dan Campbell one of those guys? I don't know.

2352
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:08,960
Speaker 2: I didn't know, but I'm just telling you. Rabes made

2353
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:10,560
Speaker 2: a lot of plays and set a lot of edges.

2354
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 2: So my answer, I have the answer.

2355
02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:19,520
Speaker 1: The answer is Campbell bench, Rabes, deadlift.

2356
02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:24,720
Speaker 2: Low man wins, legs win. Let's speak.

2357
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:27,080
Speaker 1: Next question, take your own inference from you.

2358
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:33,960
Speaker 3: If there's any tips you for give me your husband,

2359
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:37,520
Speaker 3: Sam linebacker, wide.

2360
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:45,520
Speaker 2: Receiver, Thank you, Sam linebacker, wide receiver. Combo. How do

2361
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:49,520
Speaker 2: you make varsity? Don't make any mistakes when you get

2362
02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:52,920
Speaker 2: your opportunities. Make plays when you have your opportunities, But

2363
02:01:53,040 --> 02:01:55,520
Speaker 2: don't go out of your life to try to make

2364
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:57,640
Speaker 2: a play. Make a play when it's there to be made.

2365
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:00,680
Speaker 2: So you have to, even though you're just doing your

2366
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:03,400
Speaker 2: job on your assignment or scheme and a certain play,

2367
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:10,920
Speaker 2: always do that and then sometimes a big play will

2368
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:14,160
Speaker 2: come out of that. But always doing what your assignment scheme.

2369
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 2: This that you know, and if you're gonna make if

2370
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:20,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna make a gamble or guest, or you're gonna

2371
02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:23,800
Speaker 2: make sure that fucking shit's right because they can't tell

2372
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:25,440
Speaker 2: you nothing if you do it right, if you if

2373
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:30,240
Speaker 2: you make the play doing it wrong. But just don't

2374
02:02:30,280 --> 02:02:34,360
Speaker 2: make mistakes, man, don't make the same mistake twice. Know

2375
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 2: your ship made. Varsity. Heck, yeah, varsity.

2376
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 1: We're rooting for you, Luke, and.

2377
02:02:40,280 --> 02:02:41,920
Speaker 2: You gotta win all. If you're gonna be young dog,

2378
02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 2: you gotta be the rabbit and marditioning varsity down there

2379
02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:47,600
Speaker 2: in Frisco is no joke, man, and the conditioning. You

2380
02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:49,360
Speaker 2: gotta be the rabbit, meaning you gotta be the You

2381
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:52,440
Speaker 2: gotta be leading the way. You gotta you gotta earn

2382
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:53,560
Speaker 2: the respect of the varsity.

2383
02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:56,040
Speaker 1: Let's go, Luke Schomau's doumb baby. You go to class.

2384
02:02:56,200 --> 02:02:58,800
Speaker 1: Keep those grades up before we go to the next one.

2385
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:00,520
Speaker 1: You've got some stuff in the bottom of your shoe.

2386
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:01,600
Speaker 2: Oh that's tar.

2387
02:03:02,080 --> 02:03:04,560
Speaker 1: That's tar. Yeah, keep your foot down.

2388
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:07,800
Speaker 2: It looks like that's tar from the beaches of California.

2389
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:11,480
Speaker 2: I was walking my dog. These are my feet hurt, right,

2390
02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:12,800
Speaker 2: now and these are comfy.

2391
02:03:12,920 --> 02:03:14,920
Speaker 1: Maybe just like angle it in such ways we can't

2392
02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:16,160
Speaker 1: see it, but you see, I.

2393
02:03:16,240 --> 02:03:16,840
Speaker 2: Just want to show you.

2394
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:19,160
Speaker 1: Just say, it's tar. There, it is, it's tar. We'll

2395
02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:21,560
Speaker 1: keep it. Uh, it's the secret to get tar when

2396
02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:27,760
Speaker 1: you step on on the beach sunscreen off. Yeah? Wow yeah.

2397
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 2: Isn't that so stupid that we have to talk about

2398
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:34,400
Speaker 2: the tricks of walking on these beautiful beaches of getting

2399
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:37,160
Speaker 2: the tar off your fucking feet. How we have tar

2400
02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:39,080
Speaker 2: on our goddamn beaches in California?

2401
02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you want do you want the answer?

2402
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 2: I don't want the answer, especially not from you. Next

2403
02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 2: question youah, some Texas boys represent.

2404
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:58,560
Speaker 3: I want you guys to cover the Cowboys pat at

2405
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:02,200
Speaker 3: at and T Stadium. That was my first time watching

2406
02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 3: the Cowboys play born Abya clicked that.

2407
02:04:06,160 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 6: Newspaper articles and posted them to my courtboard growing up.

2408
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:13,120
Speaker 6: Jules think you had one hundred and twenty yards for

2409
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:19,560
Speaker 6: ceving four receptions and one hundy. I just I appreciate

2410
02:04:19,720 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 6: having a chance to watch Dynasty two.

2411
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:24,760
Speaker 3: Point zero in Persian. If y'all ben covered hand, that'd

2412
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:25,160
Speaker 3: be sweet.

2413
02:04:26,720 --> 02:04:27,040
Speaker 1: You know what.

2414
02:04:28,760 --> 02:04:31,600
Speaker 2: Speaking of Texas, you know Dola, we had Hall of

2415
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:36,280
Speaker 2: Fame weekend. Hell yeah, and Dola's got ah. Some of

2416
02:04:36,400 --> 02:04:38,920
Speaker 2: his his friends that are we are all mutual friends

2417
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:42,920
Speaker 2: Texas people. And one of his friends is wearing a

2418
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:45,400
Speaker 2: cowboy hat and one of his wife is wearing a

2419
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:49,360
Speaker 2: cowboy hat. She's a professional writer and like, my daughter

2420
02:04:49,440 --> 02:04:55,520
Speaker 2: loves horses. And so we're flying back after the weekend's over,

2421
02:04:56,080 --> 02:04:58,200
Speaker 2: and she like looks over and she goes, Dad, why

2422
02:04:58,240 --> 02:04:59,960
Speaker 2: are everyone at Texas so cool?

2423
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:02,480
Speaker 1: I was like, what why?

2424
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:04,240
Speaker 2: She's like, do you see how cool they were? They

2425
02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:07,400
Speaker 2: have a cowboy hat? And it's It's true, the Texas

2426
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:08,600
Speaker 2: people are fucking cool.

2427
02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:09,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.

2428
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:11,440
Speaker 2: Lily's right as usual, you know what?

2429
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:13,520
Speaker 7: On this game?

2430
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:16,400
Speaker 1: To cover this game, I mean, we could cover this game.

2431
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:19,160
Speaker 2: That was a fun game, just because it was for

2432
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:23,880
Speaker 2: a kid who grew up rooting against the Cowboys, being

2433
02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:28,720
Speaker 2: a forty nine er fan but still always understanding the

2434
02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:34,560
Speaker 2: grandness of the Cowboys. Cowboys are a cornerstone franchise in

2435
02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:37,480
Speaker 2: this league, and I wanted to play my best game

2436
02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:41,160
Speaker 2: against them in Jerry World in the Big Stadium. It

2437
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:43,600
Speaker 2: was still fairly pretty new when that thing came or

2438
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:47,640
Speaker 2: when we played there, so like that was such a

2439
02:05:47,720 --> 02:05:49,440
Speaker 2: fun experience. Just because of that.

2440
02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:52,080
Speaker 1: I got a question for you about this game that

2441
02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: you probably have no idea on. This is one of

2442
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:56,720
Speaker 1: the prettiest visuals games.

2443
02:05:56,840 --> 02:05:58,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I seen never like some of the best picks

2444
02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:01,800
Speaker 4: lighting the coming through and just like the light like

2445
02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:05,080
Speaker 4: Tom walking looks like a superhero. It's incredible, It's pretty

2446
02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:09,520
Speaker 4: Did you see that like that? The lighting was weird

2447
02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:11,720
Speaker 4: when you were playing in that game, like shadows or.

2448
02:06:11,800 --> 02:06:12,200
Speaker 1: Like, you know what.

2449
02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:16,080
Speaker 2: I I don't remember necessarily that. I remember them coach

2450
02:06:16,160 --> 02:06:18,280
Speaker 2: bringing that up, and I don't think it was that bad.

2451
02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:23,280
Speaker 2: But the one thing you did have to practice was

2452
02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:28,600
Speaker 2: the punts because the score the Jumbo Tron is low

2453
02:06:29,240 --> 02:06:31,640
Speaker 2: and so it could bounce off that. So we were,

2454
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:34,320
Speaker 2: you know, trying to judge the punts in their pregame

2455
02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:38,440
Speaker 2: just to get a look at that. But I mean

2456
02:06:38,480 --> 02:06:40,520
Speaker 2: that thing is a spectacle. That stadium. I mean you

2457
02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:43,240
Speaker 2: walk through, you're walking through a bar to get into

2458
02:06:43,320 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 2: your locker room. There's like people going crazy, just freaking,

2459
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:53,280
Speaker 2: like dancers, like hoovering everywhere and stuff. It was I mean,

2460
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:56,600
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's the big boys.

2461
02:06:57,040 --> 02:06:59,360
Speaker 5: We took that one thirty to six in a classic

2462
02:06:59,720 --> 02:07:01,800
Speaker 5: Tom Brady versus Brandon Whedon matchup.

2463
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:07,880
Speaker 2: I do remember, I do remember one thing I was around.

2464
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:13,480
Speaker 2: We didn't who was it. Romo wasn't playing that game.

2465
02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 2: He was banged up or something, right. I remember him

2466
02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:20,080
Speaker 2: saying something like, we'll see you guys, We'll see you

2467
02:07:20,160 --> 02:07:30,440
Speaker 2: guys again. Yeah right, Romo, Yeah right, dude. I don't

2468
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:32,320
Speaker 2: know if that's real. I don't know if I just

2469
02:07:32,480 --> 02:07:35,120
Speaker 2: made that up, but there could have been something. I

2470
02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:41,520
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, right, bro, oh, let's do one more.

2471
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 2: It was a spectacle.

2472
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:47,560
Speaker 1: Let's do This is from our Canadian at shit, Hey.

2473
02:07:47,400 --> 02:07:49,640
Speaker 7: Guys, I'm calling it from Canada. I wish I was

2474
02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:52,480
Speaker 7: taught with some better news, but I don't know how

2475
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:55,960
Speaker 7: much filters down south. But uh, there's some new real

2476
02:07:56,040 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 7: changes in the CFL that are completely turned this country

2477
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:03,680
Speaker 7: upside down. I just want to get your reaction to

2478
02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:09,800
Speaker 7: the erotication of our great game up here. To summarize,

2479
02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 7: we're losing the length of the field. We always used

2480
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:14,600
Speaker 7: to be one hundred and ten yards, We're now going

2481
02:08:14,640 --> 02:08:17,640
Speaker 7: to be one hundred yards. We're also taking away most

2482
02:08:17,680 --> 02:08:21,040
Speaker 7: of the rouge implementations, which is one of the most

2483
02:08:21,120 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 7: unique things about the Canadian game. There's still still one

2484
02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:28,720
Speaker 7: still remaining, but most of the fun roof stuff is gone.

2485
02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 7: They're also reducing the size of the end zone, so anyway,

2486
02:08:32,160 --> 02:08:34,240
Speaker 7: it's there's a great.

2487
02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:37,000
Speaker 1: Veil over the Canadian.

2488
02:08:36,640 --> 02:08:41,080
Speaker 7: North right now, and we need your voice away in

2489
02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:42,800
Speaker 7: in the strong times, thank you so much.

2490
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:48,000
Speaker 8: So they're cutting the field. They make it a regular

2491
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:51,040
Speaker 8: so some jack has more information. But they're moving the goalpost.

2492
02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:54,040
Speaker 8: The goalpost from being on the goal line to back

2493
02:08:54,080 --> 02:08:56,160
Speaker 8: of the end zone now at the NFL. And because

2494
02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:58,800
Speaker 8: they're doing that, they're making the twenty yard end zone

2495
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:03,440
Speaker 8: now fifteen yards. What else, there's a both the teams

2496
02:09:03,480 --> 02:09:05,760
Speaker 8: are going to be on opposite sidelines now they used

2497
02:09:05,800 --> 02:09:06,959
Speaker 8: to be on the same sideline.

2498
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:09,680
Speaker 1: They're also the ruge.

2499
02:09:09,480 --> 02:09:12,320
Speaker 4: Is like the little like weird one points for like

2500
02:09:12,400 --> 02:09:14,000
Speaker 4: a missfield goal, if you kick it out of the

2501
02:09:14,080 --> 02:09:14,760
Speaker 4: end zone, you get.

2502
02:09:14,680 --> 02:09:17,000
Speaker 1: A point that a lot of that stuff is going away.

2503
02:09:17,120 --> 02:09:19,200
Speaker 5: Yes, so a ruse a misfield goal that sails through

2504
02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:21,800
Speaker 5: the end zone or a punt or kickoff that goes

2505
02:09:21,840 --> 02:09:23,760
Speaker 5: through the end zone no more. You can't have a

2506
02:09:23,800 --> 02:09:28,000
Speaker 5: walk off on those anymore. But Tyler mentioned the big one.

2507
02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:30,120
Speaker 5: The shortening of the field used.

2508
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:32,600
Speaker 1: To be one ten now down to one hundred. Do

2509
02:09:32,680 --> 02:09:33,760
Speaker 1: they still in Jones will.

2510
02:09:33,640 --> 02:09:35,919
Speaker 2: Now motions there and go towards the line of scrimmage?

2511
02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:40,400
Speaker 1: Motions are still Yeah, there's no we're on that. Yeah.

2512
02:09:40,760 --> 02:09:43,560
Speaker 2: With if you still got motion going forward, you still

2513
02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:44,400
Speaker 2: got your little niche.

2514
02:09:44,480 --> 02:09:46,080
Speaker 4: So some of the controversy, because me and Jack we're

2515
02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:48,120
Speaker 4: looking it up, some of the controversy is none of

2516
02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:50,960
Speaker 4: the players or coaches were consulted with this.

2517
02:09:51,440 --> 02:09:53,200
Speaker 2: It was none of those players or coaches want to

2518
02:09:53,240 --> 02:09:55,760
Speaker 2: be there. All those players and coaches want to be

2519
02:09:55,800 --> 02:09:58,520
Speaker 2: in a league up every year.

2520
02:09:58,560 --> 02:09:59,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true.

2521
02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:00,320
Speaker 2: We want to cup.

2522
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's entirely true.

2523
02:10:02,360 --> 02:10:03,400
Speaker 2: Actually, Doug did more.

2524
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:05,600
Speaker 1: Doug cut that we should call Dug up.

2525
02:10:05,880 --> 02:10:06,560
Speaker 2: We're appropriate.

2526
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:11,000
Speaker 4: I think the Canadian people are a little bit taken

2527
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:14,160
Speaker 4: aback because what makes the KFL the CFL is not

2528
02:10:14,360 --> 02:10:16,320
Speaker 4: the NFL, Right, it's just not a It's a somewhat

2529
02:10:16,360 --> 02:10:18,320
Speaker 4: different product, and they're not really even trying to be.

2530
02:10:18,440 --> 02:10:23,160
Speaker 1: Are they maybe changing due to flag football it's more

2531
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:25,280
Speaker 1: touchdowns and more entertainment value.

2532
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:29,440
Speaker 4: And for better sight lines, right, So removing the goalpost

2533
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:32,360
Speaker 4: from in play to out back now makes the like

2534
02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:34,000
Speaker 4: the middle of the field in the end zone. They

2535
02:10:34,040 --> 02:10:35,360
Speaker 4: don't really throw in the middle of the field in

2536
02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:37,040
Speaker 4: the end zone. They would only throw in the sides.

2537
02:10:37,240 --> 02:10:39,920
Speaker 4: So it's gonna increase scoring big time. It's probably go

2538
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 4: an decrease injuries. So this guy's probably running into that

2539
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:44,920
Speaker 4: all the time. No, yeah, we saw that in some

2540
02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:45,920
Speaker 4: of these clips we were watching.

2541
02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:48,720
Speaker 5: But just like, you're stripping away so much of the

2542
02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:51,080
Speaker 5: Canadian uniqueness that is the CFL.

2543
02:10:51,600 --> 02:10:53,160
Speaker 2: It's its own game, and I mean it's just still

2544
02:10:53,200 --> 02:10:55,680
Speaker 2: got a little more depth, right, I mean, I think

2545
02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:58,560
Speaker 2: they haven't fully neutered it, but like I don't know what,

2546
02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:01,320
Speaker 2: like kind I'm in a point are like, what's the

2547
02:11:01,440 --> 02:11:01,920
Speaker 2: end game here?

2548
02:11:02,040 --> 02:11:03,440
Speaker 1: You want to be more like what are you trying

2549
02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:03,600
Speaker 1: to be?

2550
02:11:03,760 --> 02:11:03,880
Speaker 5: Right?

2551
02:11:03,880 --> 02:11:05,360
Speaker 1: You're trying to compute the NFL because you're not.

2552
02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:07,360
Speaker 5: And then you got to think about in the trickle

2553
02:11:07,400 --> 02:11:10,840
Speaker 5: down effect, these young Canadian boys and girls growing up

2554
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:13,640
Speaker 5: learning this game on fields all across Canada.

2555
02:11:13,880 --> 02:11:15,120
Speaker 1: You gotta redo all these fields.

2556
02:11:15,640 --> 02:11:16,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, we can figure everything.

2557
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:18,320
Speaker 2: Do they have Canadian football fields?

2558
02:11:18,360 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 7: And they do?

2559
02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:21,560
Speaker 2: They do, and they don't even have they have Canadian

2560
02:11:21,560 --> 02:11:22,360
Speaker 2: football high school.

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02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they have college.

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02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:25,560
Speaker 5: It's eight hundred thousand to a million to change, like

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02:11:25,600 --> 02:11:27,400
Speaker 5: each fielder's in. It's gonna be in crazy.

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02:11:27,400 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 4: It's a me insane bro And there's some speculation too

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02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:32,880
Speaker 4: with a lot of the NFL international talk that maybe

2566
02:11:32,920 --> 02:11:34,880
Speaker 4: this is a play from CFL to make their games

2567
02:11:34,920 --> 02:11:38,960
Speaker 4: more similar to potentially merger maybe not fully, or create

2568
02:11:39,040 --> 02:11:40,800
Speaker 4: sub leagues or whatever, just to be more part of

2569
02:11:40,880 --> 02:11:42,360
Speaker 4: the NFL ecosystem.

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02:11:42,440 --> 02:11:45,480
Speaker 1: So well, I don't like it.

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02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:48,400
Speaker 2: Maybe they're trying to recruit like Germany and because there's

2572
02:11:48,400 --> 02:11:52,840
Speaker 2: a big German population playing football American football.

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02:11:53,400 --> 02:11:55,240
Speaker 5: They've come down here. They've had teams in America.

2574
02:11:55,520 --> 02:11:58,280
Speaker 1: It worked. We have Street don't.

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02:11:58,080 --> 02:12:01,440
Speaker 2: Forget about the Street Port but three straight Germans, yeah,

2576
02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:07,040
Speaker 2: kun Sebastian Volmer and Johnson Johnson.

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02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:11,320
Speaker 4: I guess there's this is there's two phases of CFO

2578
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:13,640
Speaker 4: oral changes, and there's gonna be more drastic changes that

2579
02:12:13,680 --> 02:12:14,080
Speaker 4: come into that.

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02:12:14,480 --> 02:12:17,720
Speaker 2: Are they still doing the kickoff though they do kick off?

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02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's modified like the NFL's kickoff, No,

2582
02:12:20,120 --> 02:12:21,360
Speaker 1: but I mean I think the rusee part of it.

2583
02:12:21,400 --> 02:12:23,160
Speaker 1: If they do take it out of the zone.

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02:12:23,560 --> 02:12:27,000
Speaker 5: That's a big thing from everything, the sweeping changes that

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02:12:27,160 --> 02:12:29,840
Speaker 5: that I've read about. I mean, I see some people

2586
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:32,240
Speaker 5: singing old Stuart Johnson, it's the commission up there.

2587
02:12:32,360 --> 02:12:34,320
Speaker 1: Half of me phrases, but I don't. I don't like it.

2588
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't like it.

2589
02:12:35,680 --> 02:12:37,600
Speaker 2: He's liking it, and half of me he's not liking it.

2590
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:41,240
Speaker 2: It feels like it's probably gonna be that's my mom's

2591
02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:45,560
Speaker 2: half that's likeing not liking it. The Canadian, Yeah, my

2592
02:12:45,640 --> 02:12:49,560
Speaker 2: dad's side, like it's becoming more American. Yeah, it's visually

2593
02:12:49,680 --> 02:12:50,480
Speaker 2: like what we're used to.

2594
02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2595
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:55,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to shoot on their game media.

2596
02:12:55,120 --> 02:12:55,720
Speaker 1: That's why I liked.

2597
02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:58,800
Speaker 5: I like it being unique and having having its own

2598
02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:00,320
Speaker 5: personality and a little bit of you know.

2599
02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:01,320
Speaker 1: A person.

2600
02:13:03,400 --> 02:13:04,919
Speaker 2: Had a CFL contract.

2601
02:13:05,000 --> 02:13:08,320
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, you, you're more qualified to speak

2602
02:13:08,320 --> 02:13:09,320
Speaker 5: than any of us right ever signed it.

2603
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the question they do? I think it's just

2604
02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:16,120
Speaker 1: the conversation starter.

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02:13:16,360 --> 02:13:19,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, how do we make our guy, our Canadian

2606
02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:21,600
Speaker 4: ash tape that share feel better?

2607
02:13:21,680 --> 02:13:23,440
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, man, Like I think you're gonna

2608
02:13:23,480 --> 02:13:26,760
Speaker 2: get better, like because maybe because guys don't throw across

2609
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:30,080
Speaker 2: the middle in the red area in CFL, they're like,

2610
02:13:30,160 --> 02:13:31,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to go play in that league because

2611
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:33,680
Speaker 2: it's not going to prepare me forever. I really want

2612
02:13:33,720 --> 02:13:35,960
Speaker 2: to go and that's an NFL. Okay, we'd all be

2613
02:13:36,040 --> 02:13:38,879
Speaker 2: lying if we're not. If we're gonna say the CFL

2614
02:13:38,920 --> 02:13:40,880
Speaker 2: guys don't want to play in the NFL, we would

2615
02:13:40,880 --> 02:13:43,120
Speaker 2: be lying to ourselves. We love the game, we love

2616
02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:46,240
Speaker 2: what it is, but this could be a better thing

2617
02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:48,080
Speaker 2: for them to get guys that. Oh maybe we could

2618
02:13:48,120 --> 02:13:50,080
Speaker 2: do that now it's becoming a little more.

2619
02:13:51,200 --> 02:13:52,320
Speaker 1: Uniform, so to speak.

2620
02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2621
02:13:53,760 --> 02:13:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go in a different direction. I think

2622
02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:57,800
Speaker 1: the silver lining for our Canadian friends here is that

2623
02:13:57,880 --> 02:14:02,120
Speaker 1: hockey season starts in Yeah, it's a hockey town.

2624
02:14:02,200 --> 02:14:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah we shouldn't. Yeah, get honestly, I like I like

2625
02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:06,440
Speaker 2: guys that like their sport.

2626
02:14:06,640 --> 02:14:08,840
Speaker 5: Me too. I'm with your Fraser were we stand in

2627
02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:10,120
Speaker 5: support with your brother, We stand.

2628
02:14:10,160 --> 02:14:11,800
Speaker 1: In support of our Canadian football fame.

2629
02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:13,800
Speaker 5: Well, senior Nutou's hat and a s Lotty piping T shirt.

2630
02:14:14,480 --> 02:14:18,160
Speaker 5: We got make up for things. Yeah, that was awesome

2631
02:14:18,400 --> 02:14:22,240
Speaker 5: And I do have a ordered a bunch of the

2632
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:27,200
Speaker 5: what is it maple nougat from Kenabella. You're a big

2633
02:14:27,280 --> 02:14:29,720
Speaker 5: nugat guy, Big nugat guy. Are we Hamilton Tiger Cat

2634
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:30,120
Speaker 5: guys here?

2635
02:14:30,600 --> 02:14:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm a Montreal hollow I'm a BC Lion. I'm a

2636
02:14:32,840 --> 02:14:36,760
Speaker 1: BC Lion guy. Yeah. Or the rough Riders the rough Riders,

2637
02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:38,839
Speaker 1: which one you might ask, Yeah, wait.

2638
02:14:38,720 --> 02:14:42,680
Speaker 2: The rough Riders. So they changed the rough Riders back

2639
02:14:42,720 --> 02:14:43,440
Speaker 2: in California.

2640
02:14:43,640 --> 02:14:45,000
Speaker 5: One was like with a Z and one was like

2641
02:14:45,080 --> 02:14:47,640
Speaker 5: going on the Razorbacks, the Oak Grove Razorbacks and Oak

2642
02:14:47,720 --> 02:14:48,960
Speaker 5: Rove rough Riders.

2643
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:52,640
Speaker 2: That was such a sick Pop Warner name. That is, dude,

2644
02:14:53,320 --> 02:14:56,040
Speaker 2: red and black they were. They were red and blue

2645
02:14:56,160 --> 02:14:59,760
Speaker 2: and white. I like like Patriots ish nah, but more

2646
02:14:59,880 --> 02:15:10,680
Speaker 2: like more like technobol like looking red with little like

2647
02:15:11,200 --> 02:15:14,920
Speaker 2: royal blue. Okay, and rather than like a navy Yeah,

2648
02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:18,720
Speaker 2: more red. Yeah, I don't know. I like forget.

2649
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:22,280
Speaker 4: We should pick we should each pick a CFL TfL

2650
02:15:22,360 --> 02:15:26,200
Speaker 4: team and then bet on BC Lions. Okay, the Hamilton

2651
02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:26,760
Speaker 4: Tiger Cats.

2652
02:15:26,800 --> 02:15:27,800
Speaker 2: Oh, Hamilton's pretty good.

2653
02:15:27,840 --> 02:15:32,280
Speaker 1: Montreal Aloettes. I'll go to Montreal Alottes Giants. I'm gonna

2654
02:15:32,280 --> 02:15:33,680
Speaker 1: be a Hamilton guy. I'm a Hamilton guy.

2655
02:15:33,800 --> 02:15:38,000
Speaker 4: Calgary Stampeters, Edmonton Elks, Saskatchewan rough Riders, and then the

2656
02:15:38,040 --> 02:15:39,080
Speaker 4: Winnipeg Blue Bomber.

2657
02:15:39,080 --> 02:15:40,720
Speaker 1: Whoever Drake roots for is who I root for?

2658
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:44,240
Speaker 5: An Argonauts guy Toronto aka Nuts all right, I'll be

2659
02:15:44,240 --> 02:15:44,840
Speaker 5: an Argonauts, but.

2660
02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean Hamilton is also close. If you gotta look

2661
02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:49,480
Speaker 1: at the gear. Yeah, I gotta look at the Yeah,

2662
02:15:49,480 --> 02:15:50,160
Speaker 1: who has the best gear?

2663
02:15:54,320 --> 02:15:56,720
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2667
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Speaker 5: What a guy?

2668
02:16:14,200 --> 02:16:16,640
Speaker 1: That's a football man? Three? Give me Jimmy, thank you,

2669
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Devil Jimmys and Joe James Devlin. What a man?

2670
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