1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Revere Revee. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: Donks look at this now, tip to tip. This is 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: It's the last day of February and I don't know 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: what that means other than it's the last day of February. 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: What a terrible intro. Hi, everyone, it is time for 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: Morning Combat. My name is Luke Thomas. That's Brian Campbell, 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: and we do have a busy assortment of topics to 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: get do. We have so much UFC, so much Bellator, 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: so much boxing, so much crow eating, which we have 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: to do as well, so that'll be a part of 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: the agenda. I'm excited to get it going. As I mentioned, 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: my partner in crime, the boss of Connecticut, my friend 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: and yours. It's Brian Campbell. Hello, Brian, how's how's your 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: eighty year old man's back? Is it better? 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: Look? I'm happy to report that I have done yoga, 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 3: some stretching push ups this morning. You know, operation turned 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: my back at least into the level of a forty 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 3: three year old. And you know, nothing worse is in 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: full effect. Luke, you know, I can't go back to 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: where I was a week ago, crawling on the floor, 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: so happy to be alive and moving. Well, it's cold 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: as balls, Luke, but we're getting there. We're almost there. 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: Thanks. It's warming up a little bit this side of 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: the country. I guess yours is lagging a little bit, 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: but we were. I think got like forty something degree 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: weather today, which is not great but better, but better. 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: I would say, you know, Luke, would you admit what 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: a what a full fun ass weekend of fights? 32 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: I gotta say, we knew that it was going to 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: be busy, but the way things turned out, I think 34 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: as part of the story with everything that happened that 35 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: there was a lot of good, a lot of bad, 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: and honestly, you see, true or false, a lot of 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: crazy that happened over the weekend, tons of upsets and 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: dispute decisions. 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: There's a lot happening, absolutely, and we're here on this 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 3: Monday morning to give you the total package. 41 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: What was Lex Luger's special move for I used to 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: watch as a kid, but I forgot. 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: The torture rack. He'd get them up there and just 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: you know, bend their body backwards, you know, and then 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: you know he he also fed Miss Elizabeth enough cocaine 46 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: to eventually kill her. 47 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: So that's it. 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: You know, it's a it's a downgrade on his resume, 49 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: but you know, outside of that, a true legend. 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, aside of aside from that unspeakable moral evil, 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: he's a great guy. I mean, I don't know, he 52 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: might be great. I'm just teasing, all right, BC thumbs 53 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: up in the video. If you're watching on YouTube hits. 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: You're not gonna You're not gonna tell people that you 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 3: used to work out at his gym and Marietta Luke. 56 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: I was not high school. When I was in high school, 57 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: lex Luca's gym was just up not not too far, 58 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: about a mile or two from where I went went 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: where I lived, and uh, for a little while, we 60 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: used to go to his gym. Yeah, he had a 61 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: gym over there in Cobb County. I don't know if 62 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: it still exists or not, but back in the late 63 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: nineties it did. Okay, what else we have going on 64 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: Morning Combat at gmail dot com is the email shoot 65 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: us those emails for Wednesday's fan submissions for Friday's dead Wrong. 66 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna retool some of those, but we still want 67 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: them just the same. What else we have. Let's see 68 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: Showtime dot com. You get a thirty day free trial. 69 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: If you'll like it, you can keep it. If not, 70 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: you can bounce. And on Showtime this weekend there was 71 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: a lot that happened, including on the Showtime Championship Boxing 72 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: end of things, a ton of upsets, but what a 73 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: crazy thoket. 74 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: Is You indicated you want action in a triple header. 75 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: Showtime Championship Boxing gave that to you. And then you 76 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: had the Friday afternoon bellatur card in front of that 77 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: sick crowd in Dublin. It was a great weekend for 78 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: Showtime and Luke I finished off the bill cosby Doc 79 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: So shout out to our boy w Camile Bell for 80 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: that one. Wow, that's a think piece right there. 81 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: You did a good job with that, really good job 82 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: with that. So if you want Showtime, you can get 83 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: that for free for thirty days. Just give it a try. 84 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: And then, oh, Sports Podcast Awards, we got to keep 85 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: on hammering that Sports Podcast Awards. Want to let the 86 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: folks know they can go and vote for that as 87 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: soon as they want, please go do it. And BC 88 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: we should also mention at the top of the show. 89 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: Our pregame preview for UFC two seventy two is out. 90 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: It is BC yours truly, Chuck minden Hall. It is up. 91 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: It is ready for viewing, and honestly, BC, I watched 92 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: it last night. It's a it's a return to form. 93 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: I think. 94 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there wasn't enough bitch that. I guess 95 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: that's what the people wanted from BC, some some sloppy bitches, 96 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: but uh, we didn't have that on the cold rooftop. 97 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: Excuse me, but I do want to apologize, Luke. Apparently, 98 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: you know, when I get a little intoxicated, I tend 99 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: to cut Chuck Mindenhall off every single sentence, you know. 100 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's a it's a character flaw, Luke, Okay, 101 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: all I can do. You know, I apologize to that man. 102 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 3: I mean sure he's going to cash that check regardless. 103 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: But Chuck, we love you. We did preview this Saturday's 104 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: pay per view like men do, and we'll have plenty 105 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: more bonus content this week. UFC two seven two Interviews. 106 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: We got a resume review. 107 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: This week, Luke, right right, Yes we do, Yes, we do, Okay, Broka, 108 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: So it should be a lot of fun. Be on 109 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: the lookout for that. But right now pregame preview UFC 110 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: two seventy two Chuckman and he'llbce me on the roof, 111 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: drinking and a lot of other things. So a lot 112 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: of fun. Go check that out. Uh okay, BC, without 113 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: further do you ready get this party started? 114 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm I was. I was born ready like Big 115 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: Red Canelo, who's no longer on showtime, Luke, we had 116 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: a good run though. 117 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: You know, we had an one out. You know what, 118 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: We covered the shit out of that Caleb Plant fight. 119 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: Can't take that from us. I'll tell you what. Okay, 120 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: we start then with topic number one. We will go 121 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: to the UFC first, Islam Makachev makes very short work 122 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: of Bobby Green, you know, and listen, here's the DEALBC, 123 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Bobby Green came into this fight on short notice, unranked. 124 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: We all knew that it was going to be a 125 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: tough assignment, potentially duable least in theory, but not going 126 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: to be that easy, and instead Makachev just rolls right 127 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: over him. So let's start with this one, BC, A, 128 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: what did you make of the fight? And b are 129 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: we now at the point with Islam Makachev where his 130 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: next fight should be for the winner of the gay 131 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: Chee versus olivera fight, namely for a title. 132 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: I mean, Luke, you could argue that we'd already been 133 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: at that point. You could argue that his nine fight 134 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: win streak put him in the conversation it was him 135 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: or gae Chee. I was happy that the UFC went 136 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: in the direction of Justin Getchee, who I believe deserves 137 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: it still, but they couldn't have gone wrong if they'd 138 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: gone Mahachev. He had, of course to do one more hurdle. 139 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: We thought it was going to be benil Derriush. We 140 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: know how we got here with Bobby Green, and what 141 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: can we say, Luke, did it go how we expected 142 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: in the end? Yeah, but this just reconfirmed, you know, cemented, solidified. 143 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: He's I mean, he might be the most dangerous mixed 144 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: martial artists in the world at the moment, not wearing 145 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 3: a UFC title. I mean, this guy is so ready 146 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: to find out how great he could be. It's alarming, 147 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: it's scary. I mean, Luke, just looking at how cut 148 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: he is, how physically prepared and ready the mental focus, 149 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: and then when he goes out there and executes. You know, Luke, 150 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 3: sometimes people get mad when BC sits in front of 151 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: a microphone because I can be all or nothing. You know, 152 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: my therapist will tell you, or my wife either or Luke. 153 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: They're not the same person, by the way, but they'll 154 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: both tell you that, you know, I could be a 155 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: little all or nothing for some time. 156 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: They both told you that it is all your fault. 157 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah all Most of the women in 158 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: my life historically have told me that, Luke. But the 159 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: point of this is, you know, look, we're podcasters. We're 160 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: filling time. If somebody's got a bad performance, god, they're washed. 161 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: If somebody's got a great performance, they're the next big thing, Luke, 162 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: be honest with me. Mahachev, and again, it's not about 163 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: Bobby Green. It's about the performance and the wind streak. 164 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Dude. 165 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: He he doesn't just look like he's ready to like 166 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: go in there and grab the lightweight title next, no 167 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: matter who's wearing it when he finally gets his chance. 168 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: For all the talk that there's no Habib two point zero, 169 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: there'll never be another Habib, but you know, Mahachev is 170 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 3: the closest, and he's got Uncle Habib in the corner, 171 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: and he comes from the abdulmen app rip you know, 172 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: can't and all that, Luke, he might be even closer 173 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: to Habib than I think we even give him credit sometimes. 174 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: Is that an emotional reaction there, Luke, I mean he's 175 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: he's he's not only complete, he's not only intimidating and destructive. 176 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: But Luke, his intangibles are like a forget a ten 177 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: out of ten, they're like a fifty out of ten. 178 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: I mean, this guy is a tank ready to go 179 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: in there and just run over people. Luke, answer that 180 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: question for me specifically, Habib might be the greatest fighter 181 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 3: of all time. I mean, he's actually in that discussion. 182 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: So I'm not trying to say Mahachev is knocking on 183 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: that door. He hasn't even fought for a tuntle yet. 184 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: But are you feeling what I'm feeling when you watch him? 185 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: That like will allow him to tell us how good 186 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: he can be once he finally steps up to the 187 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: highest level. But as of right now, I have no 188 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 3: frickin idea where his feeling is. And I like that. 189 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 3: I like that feeling, Luke. 190 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: I love that feeling. And got you mentioned about where 191 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: he is relative to Habib in certain ways, it seems 192 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: like he's rely on upon Habib to get the kind 193 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: of support and general awareness about the stage of his 194 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: career that he otherwise wouldn't have, and that's a real benefit. 195 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: On the other hand, I think you're right we should 196 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: consider it, including what he can do in the striking department. 197 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: That obviously the similarities are going to be there, probably 198 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: always going to be there. Not only is he his 199 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: own unique fighter, though, but that he might have some 200 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: portions of his game that could well exceed what Habib 201 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: was able to do in terms of the maximization of 202 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: some of his overall pieces there. Dude, he is Listen. 203 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: If you wanted to argue that he doesn't have enough 204 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: elite wins to merit one, that probably is something to that. 205 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: But that wasn't his fault, right. He was supposed to 206 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: get Bannil Daryush, which would have been a very elite 207 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: win had he been able to capture it, but of 208 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: course it fell out. So you look at a rap here. 209 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: Now what's left. Banil Dariush might have a longer timeline 210 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: for return. I did see some people say he could 211 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: fight Mike Chandler b see Listen, here's the deal. Would 212 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: I hate an Islam Makachev Michael Chandler fight. No, No, 213 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: I would not hate it. It'd be a great fight. 214 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: But do I really need to see that to know 215 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: that Makachev is a worthy time? No, I really don't. 216 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: It seems almost I won't say a waste, because that'd 217 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: be an amazing fight, but it seems I'll put your 218 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: right back to you. It seems to me bc a 219 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: little unnecessary. We could get a fresh contender in there, 220 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: with a fresh set of potential matchups if he becomes 221 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: the champion. I think that really should be looked at 222 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: more closely. 223 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: And the thing about what you just said there, you said, 224 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: you said what we all feel. God, if he had 225 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: to wait one more fight with this ten fight win streak, 226 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: would we hate Chandler? No? But look, if he ends 227 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: up fighting Chandler, doesn't that mean barring the need for 228 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: an immediate olivera Gaichie rematch, which obviously, look if there's 229 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: a no contest, if there's a corrupt decision, you never know. 230 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: But doesn't that tell you if Mahachev is fighting Chandler next, 231 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: then Connor McGregor sliding in to fight the winner of 232 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 3: the Gaichie Olivera fight, and nobody wants that, dude, nobody, 233 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: that's you know, just as much as like, you know, 234 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: they asked Mahachev, do you do you still have interest 235 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: in fighting day Ushen. He's like, well, you know, no, oh, 236 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: Let's wait until I win the title and then I'll 237 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 3: defend it against him. You know, he gave him respect. 238 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: He said, der Use is great and that's what it 239 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 3: should be. Luke, do not pass go dude. He arguably 240 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: had a better case than Gateshee to be fighting for 241 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: the title already, So if he's got to fight anybody else, 242 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: there's something completely wrong with the system right here. But 243 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 3: I think this is a moot point because you heard 244 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 3: Dana after the fight. It's Islam's time to show us, 245 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: you know, whether we're overreacting and how good he is. 246 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 3: And let me just say one more thing about this 247 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: ten fight win streak and whether he has beaten enough 248 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 3: elite guys tour false Luke, even up to the point 249 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: that Habib stepped up at UFC two twenty three and 250 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 3: fought for the title for the first time, we were 251 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: kind of questioning the same thing because although he destroyed Barbosa. 252 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 3: The RDA fight had come three years earlier before his 253 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: knee injury. Because of circumstances, Habib at that point also 254 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: didn't get the full chance to show us how great 255 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: he could be. But once he won that title, he 256 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: showed us how great he actually So. 257 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also one thing to keep in mind here 258 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: is we should not repeat the mistakes of the Tony 259 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: Ferguson experience, where a guy had to go on these 260 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: insanely long run because some of the preferred matchups to 261 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: really get him where we wanted to go, either it 262 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: didn't materialize the Habib fighter or fell out for whatever reason. 263 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: He obviously thought a ton of elite guys. I don't 264 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: want to say he didn't, but there was this waiting 265 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: period where he was winning and winning and winning, and 266 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: we just decided, well, he's been winning a long time, 267 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: but has he beaten the guys to get a title shot. 268 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: And it's like, dude, you missed out on a bit 269 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: of an opportunity to just plug him to the front 270 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: and see how it all would have gone. We knew 271 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: he was an elite fighter, that would have been a 272 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: better way to go about it than kind of denying 273 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: him some of these opportunities Makachev Again, I'll grant is 274 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: it the most meritocratic slam dunk contest for a title shot? No, 275 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: in that sense it's not. But with the state of 276 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: the division and then the state of the performances, it 277 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: just seems silly to be like, well, I guess I 278 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: still don't know. We don't know how these fights play out, BC, 279 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: but this guy is a very worthy adversary of the 280 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: top five and might just be the very best lightweight 281 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: on earth. 282 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: Look, what did he show you in the very very 283 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: brief window we had there? And we're not even showing 284 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: pictures of this Bobby Green fight because it was so quick. 285 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: We're looking back here at the ten fight win streak 286 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: in the run that he's had. But what did Islam 287 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,359 Speaker 3: show you in this fight outside of just straight domination 288 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 3: in the manner in which he finished it, I. 289 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: Would say urgency. You know, if you go back to 290 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: the Thiciago Moises fight, he really took his time with 291 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: that one. I think he could have finished him a 292 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: little bit earlier if he was kind of invested in 293 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: that way here against Bobby Green, he knew he had 294 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: to win, and he also knew, can't look at this 295 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: guy is unranked and coming on a short notice, and 296 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be the next big thing. You should 297 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: put this guy away very quickly. That's exactly what he did. 298 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: He didn't make any mistakes. Again, this guy has what 299 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: eleven twelve UFC fights, and his strikes absorb per minute. 300 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: It was point seventy nine on Friday. It's still just 301 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: point eight four point eight four. I don't think I've 302 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: ever seen a main event fighter with that low of 303 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: a number in terms of what his opponents can do 304 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: to him. So it shows you he's still not making 305 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: mistakes and he's getting to the finish even quicker. Now, 306 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: there was an urgency, a pace he was putting on 307 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: Bobby Green in terms of the speed which the offense 308 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: was just overwhelming him. I won't say that's new exactly BC, 309 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: but he definitely seemed to turn up the intensity to 310 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: get there in a very concerted way. It tells you 311 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: this guy's motivated and he's ready. 312 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: You know, as American MMA fans, which you know, there's 313 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: a slant there. You know, people always said, oh, ESPN 314 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: is East Coast bias, and that's true. I think our 315 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: whole country's east coast bias Luke right, I mean, the 316 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: majority of this country lives in this armpit of the 317 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: northeast here. Okay, but are we missing out on the 318 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: late Abdomen app normalga Metov being you know, he he 319 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: you know, he's died and God bless him, you know, 320 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: rest in peace. But the coaching tree and legacy, and 321 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: you know, Habib's picking up where his father left off. 322 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: And for all we know, Habib can go on to 323 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: a hall of fame coaching career on the level of 324 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: his fighting career. But just this style, this temperament, this 325 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: this camp that the late Abduloman app has started. Do 326 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: we give him enough credit in this modern era among 327 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: the greatest coaches in the sport. 328 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard to know exactly the influence 329 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: because we weren't there to see all of it, but 330 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: suffice to say he clearly provided an extraordinarily important role 331 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: in guidance and game development. And then also you just 332 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: go back to these guys who are coming out of 333 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: Russia with the sambo or. I think there's also the 334 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: system that Korreeshkov uses, AARB, which is like a Russian 335 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: military offshoot. They're just so game ready, They're so game 336 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: ready for the modern style of fighting. I think obviously 337 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: abduom Napp had a large hand in rearing them to 338 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: this position. But you know, I'd be just lying if 339 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: I said I knew exactly what kind of leadership be provided. 340 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: But to your point, you know, what these guys have 341 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: produced is pretty remarkable. 342 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: And shout out to Haavier Mendez right aka, who's who 343 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: sort of teamed up with with team and Dermaga Metov 344 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: to pull this whole lot, whole thing off. 345 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk quickly about the co main event from this 346 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: card if we can. Misha Serkanov losing obviously to Wellington 347 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: term and we had talked about Misha a little bit 348 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: on Friday. Didn't really know exactly what the weight cut 349 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: from two to five or the way drop I should 350 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: say from two a five to one five would do 351 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: him in terms of good. You see, he looked pretty 352 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: good and certain spots bought out of the choke and 353 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: then nearly applied one, but then at the end just 354 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: ran into another mistake. Is do you think this might 355 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: be the end of the circle off UFC partnership. 356 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: How many in a row? I know, that's two losses 357 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: in a row since since changing weight divisions. How many 358 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: losses in a row in general? 359 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: I have to look that up for just a second. 360 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm pulling it up as we speak. 361 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: I mean, look, you know, God, Cirkanov looks like his 362 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: body is a wonderling. 363 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: Out of his last five he's lost, yeah, you know, 364 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: and then and then he had and then he went 365 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: to it went one for three, and the three prior 366 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: to that one for two. Excuse me, one and two 367 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: in this previous three. 368 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if he's outright cut, but he but 369 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: he's right there, Luke, where he's got to make some changes. 370 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: I think you know in this fight he was, you know, 371 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: seemingly in control and doing well well until he wasn't 372 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: and he lost. And what I loved about Wellington termin there, Luke, 373 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: is that you know they kept talking about and you 374 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: saw a little video package that had the subtitles because 375 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: he was speaking in Portuguese where he said, you know, 376 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 3: moving to Connecticut completely changed his life. Luke, you know 377 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: you don't hear that. You don't hear that too often, Okay. 378 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: Shout out to both Glover, to Shera and Chuck Mindenhall, 379 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: who moved their lives to Connecticut and their careers just flourished. 380 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: So let's add Wellington. And also let's put respect on 381 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: that camp that Glover to Shera has started. That that 382 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 3: has of course Alex Padda, who's made the transition to UFC. 383 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: And look who's that boxing coach. You know that guy 384 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 3: that's always with Glover. That guy's pretty damn smart too 385 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 3: as well. 386 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure of his name either, but yes, certainly 387 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: they're doing something pretty good over there. 388 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah they are. And this was a very strong victory. 389 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: And look, Wellington himself, Luke job security wise, if I'm 390 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't necessarily in the strongest spot. 391 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 3: But this is the type of win that shows you 392 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: he's turning things around. And he's only twenty five. Good lord, Okay, 393 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: look he's two and two in his last four. But 394 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: he had the split decision went over Sam Alvi, which 395 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: doesn't look tremendous on paper, but this is a big 396 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: win for Urnament Luke to kind of turn himself in 397 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 3: the right direction. 398 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: Also in the fight with Alvi there was I think 399 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: he had points deducted for multiple Ipokes, so he should 400 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: have won. Well, he did win that one, but it 401 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: should have been a little bit closer than it was. 402 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: To your point, he needs to get you know, he's 403 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: in good, good space. Two wins in a row is 404 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: obviously a great thing, but there's a lot further room 405 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: to grow. It's just interesting that Serkonoff came to UFC 406 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: three wins in a row. He beat Daniel Jolly, he 407 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: finished off Alex Nicholson breaking his jaw, Then he beat 408 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: Ion kute Lava, then he beat Nikita krolov Do he 409 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: was often running and since then it has just been 410 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: the only two wins where Jimmy Cruit which was a 411 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: good one, and then Patrick Cummins, but that was in 412 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. It just hasn't been a consistent ability to 413 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: get his hand raised, no matter the way. Class. Frankly, 414 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: all different kinds of opponents too, it's not the same 415 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: kind of an opponent. So I don't know what this 416 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: might mean, but it's probably not great long term. Luke. 417 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: Remember when the U tried to tell us that that 418 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 3: barista turned elite fighter Patrick Cummins. Yeah, like had one 419 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 3: up to DC on the wrestling Matt back in the 420 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: day and he was gonna come in there and uh, 421 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'm not here to disrespect Patrick Cummins. 422 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 3: He fought hard in his UFC run, Luke, but uh, 423 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 3: they tried to sell us something that I don't think 424 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 3: was there, So. 425 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't. It didn't work out for him too well. 426 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: Uh okay, so let's get people. 427 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: Say by the way, Luke, I wanted to shout out 428 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: MK real quick. People say with our merch sometimes that 429 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: we're getting too aggressive and selling people things that might 430 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: not be there they don't want. But did you hear 431 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: when we were back in Jersey City this past week 432 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: churning out content like like like butter Luke that the 433 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: damn drug rug is the best selling item in the 434 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: history of Morningcombat Dot store like by far? 435 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: Did hear that? Yes? Yes, I did hear that it 436 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: sold a ton a ton? What is that believe? Those 437 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: ugly things are being worn by January six ers out there, 438 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: but they I mean to. 439 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: Be fair, What do you think that says either about 440 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: our audience about our show? 441 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: What do you think I think most of our audience 442 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: lives in the no fucking section. That's what I think. 443 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: I would have been fine with most of our audiences 444 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: a bunch of mouth breathing vapors, Luke, But that's you know, 445 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 3: it's probably so that's me. 446 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm the mouth breathing va of vapis. 447 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: Sorry, I gotta. I'm trying to roll up my heating path, Luke. 448 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 3: I'm trying not to get become a senior citizen too early. 449 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: You are truly pathetic. All right, let's get to some 450 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: crow eating. We'll get to a bunch of the other 451 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: UFC stuff on today's extra credit, which will be out today. 452 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: All right, point number two, Holy Bud Jesus, go to Belator, 453 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: you go to Ireland. How about Moose gay gard Musasi 454 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: didn't just beat Austin Vanderfert, he just bulldozed him, I 455 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: mean right past him now, b C. I want to 456 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: get to Habib's tweet about him, because I do think 457 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: it's an important conversation to have. But the first thing 458 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: is first your boy has to eat a ton of crow, 459 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: just L after L. So I want to ask you 460 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: BC about this. I think when I got if you 461 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: get it wrong this bad, you probably got it wrong 462 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: both ways? Right You? Not only when I say you, 463 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: I mean me, I not only got it wrong on 464 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: the Musac side. I got it wrong on the Vanderford side. 465 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: Let's start with the Mussaci side. Right, If you get 466 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: it wrong this bad, there's an anatomy, a little bit 467 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: of come to Jesus, you gotta do so let's do it. 468 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: How did I get this wrong? Clearly the part you 469 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: had said all last week about musase, you know, maybe 470 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: not being in like the peak of his prime or something, 471 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: but certainly being capable, maybe full of competitive spirit, obviously 472 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: got a ton of experience and whatnot. In other words, 473 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: what you were trying to make was he still got 474 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: a lot left in the tank. I didn't believe it. 475 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: Clearly you were right. Clearly I was wrong, totally true. 476 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: Let's start there now. Vanderford did implode in ways that 477 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: I think is a little bit surprising. I don't think 478 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: that like that's in any way his best showing. But 479 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: Musac was in complete command and b C. Here's what 480 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. When he was asked about 481 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: it afterwards, he said, I didn't always believe I was 482 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: the best middle way. Now you better believe it, dude. 483 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: There might actually be something to the idea that he 484 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: wasn't properly in a right competitive mind frame to get 485 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: the best out of him. But when he is, and 486 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: I know it's a meme, but when he is, look 487 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: at the result. 488 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I love to see that type of humility 489 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: and honesty, because Luke, let's be fair, you and I 490 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: are successful people in our own field and craft. 491 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: Mostly a loser, but okay, go ahead. 492 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 3: I mean elite self confidence is I mean, are some 493 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 3: people just born with it? Maybe maybe you're raised in 494 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: an uplifting environment. But sometimes, Luke, I think we're natural skeptics. 495 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: We have to see ourselves accomplish something too often before 496 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 3: we believe it. Look, Musasi's been one of the best 497 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: in the world for a long time in multiple promotions, 498 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: but to his point, he's never felt the confidence to 499 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 3: come out and just say in front of everybody, Look, 500 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: I'm the best in the world that what I do 501 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: at my weight class. And to be fair, Luke, there 502 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 3: was never a point where he really was. He was close, 503 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: he was in the conversation. But to see him sort 504 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 3: of come full bloom into that, it's inspiring. It's great 505 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: to see. I mean, he was almost doing a one 506 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 3: man show on the microphone. We didn't even need big 507 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 3: John McCarthy. He's just like giddy and coming out of 508 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: his personality in ways I haven't seen before. He's happy, 509 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: he's he's as well rounded. I mean, look, he's thirty six, 510 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: so you're thinking physically a little past prime. But sometimes, Luke, 511 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: you everything just comes together for a fighter at different points. 512 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 3: You know, typically it's early thirties, but right now everything 513 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: has come together. Now, is Austin Vanderford gonna go down 514 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: historically as the same class of opponent as some of 515 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 3: the guys you know that gay guard Beata closes ufc run. 516 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 3: I don't know, the jury is still out, but Vanderfer 517 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: was eleven and zero full of confidence, had shown that 518 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 3: at least you could talk yourself into the ideas if 519 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 3: he took Musasi down, this was gonna be an interesting fight. 520 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 3: And you know, Musasi punched a hole right through the 521 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 3: dude's necktat Luke right through the throat basically, and I 522 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: just loved seeing that, Like, you know what, I might 523 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 3: be the best in my entire career. Right now, I'm 524 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 3: the happiest, healthiest, most well rounded. He didn't say all 525 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: that stuff, but you can feel it coming out of him. Luke, 526 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 3: and you know, tell me the truth about you, Luke, 527 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 3: I don't think I developed full adult man elite self 528 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: confidence until like later this morning or last year or whatever. 529 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 3: Like I mean, you know, fake it until you make 530 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: it can be a thing. But just buying in with 531 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: no doubt, that's a hill that every single person in 532 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 3: their own life and field has to eventually climb to 533 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: see that joy come out of him. It was a 534 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 3: kind of touching moment that was as surprising to me 535 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: as how easily he ended up handling Vanderford and Luke. 536 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: While I think you may have overlooked during that during 537 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: that recent run, the four fight win streat the eight 538 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: of nine, how steady he actually was, despite the Schlamenco hiccup, 539 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 3: despite you know, was the machieta fight closer than it 540 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 3: should have been, all that stuff. But at the same time, 541 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: is there's something wrong with Vanderford, because I mean everything 542 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: Musasi touched just just hurt him and got him the 543 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: hell out of there. So great moment for the Moose 544 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 3: for us to you know, stand on the mountaintops and say, 545 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 3: good lord, he's one of the best of all time. 546 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 3: But I don't even think it should have been this easy. 547 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: Look right, yeah, I mean even this. So this is 548 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: this is the part where it's like, okay, if you 549 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: get it wrong this bad. You got to get it 550 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: wrong both ways. You couldn't. You can't be right about 551 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: one guy and then wrong about the other. You got 552 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: it wrong about both. So clear and I will accop 553 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: to something. And this is this is gonna sound like an excuse. 554 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: It's not dide. You put your name on something, you're 555 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: responsible for it. But like during the middle of the week, 556 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: we have to constantly look up all of these boxers 557 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: and then then these are MMA fighters and now these cards, 558 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: and we're previewing and sometimes you know, you skimp on 559 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: some certain parts of your preview to make spots for 560 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: other ones, and it costs you in the And I 561 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: probably didn't do a fair enough amount of I was 562 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: going off a lot of memory on what Vanderford had done. 563 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: Big mistake. I should not have done that. I clearly 564 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: got over in front of my skis doing that. I 565 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: apologize to you. I apologize to the viewers for doing that. 566 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: I don't care about wrong on hold on, I don't 567 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: care about being wrong. We'll be wrong, we'll be right. 568 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: Things happened. 569 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: I was just going to reject to say, we're going 570 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: to do the same thing about Jack Catterall in about 571 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 3: three minutes. What happens. 572 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well he got robbed like a motherfucker. So 573 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that in a second. But you know, 574 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: when you just don't do enough of the homework and 575 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: it costs you, that's no one's fault but your own. 576 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: And I recognize that here completely. I should have done 577 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: a better job, so I take the fault there. But 578 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: to your point about Vanderford, you know, listen, Musac is 579 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: clearly better than I gave him credit. It's fair enough, 580 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: but that knee was shaky, he was buckling. I'm not 581 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: saying he would have beaten Moose. In fact, in retrospect, 582 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: I should not have picked him, no matter what the circumstance. 583 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: But I got a feeling that's not going to be 584 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: your best showing a Vanderford against the elite opponent. I 585 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: feel like he's got still some upside worth taking seriously. 586 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: And who the hell knows exactly what happened BC, But 587 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: I just would say, I would say, because I did 588 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: go back and watch some Vanderferd fights, maybe the moment 589 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: got to him too. He just seemed overwhelmed. I just 590 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: don't think that was a fair representation of him either. 591 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: That's it. 592 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 3: So while I enjoyed everybody crapping on you and tweeting 593 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 3: at me that BCEs this, you know, no, she donk 594 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: miss once again, Look, I predicted a fourth round stoppage, 595 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: and I thought it would be a much different fight. 596 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 3: I thought Vanderfer would take Musasi down at times, but 597 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: eventually the experience and maybe some of the moment that 598 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 3: you're talking about would just lead to Musasi stopping him. 599 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: Credit to gay Gardy put him away, but also credit 600 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 3: to Hakeem Dermish, our colleague at CBS Sports HQ. I 601 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 3: was on there after this fight breaking it down, and 602 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: you know, he told me off cameras like did you 603 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 3: see that leg buckle before the big strikes even hit? 604 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 3: And when you do rewatch the tape, I do wonder 605 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: if there was some type of injury that happened in 606 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: the moment or was reaggravated that that sped up his exit. 607 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: But again, the the level of competition that that PVC's husband, 608 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Austin Vanderford had had up to this point 609 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: really didn't properly prepare him and and sometimes guys just 610 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: make that leap regardless. But that was ultimately while I 611 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 3: stuck to my guns on Musas, I just want to know, 612 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 3: Luke As you're being this humble and straddling the L. 613 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 3: Is this the worst L you've taken since well since 614 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 3: since for me, since the Risen debacle, but you since 615 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 3: your thirtieth birthday. Look, with much due respect, don't turn 616 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: on me. 617 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, I mean listen, you know I always 618 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: say this too. When you get them right, my dms 619 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: are never full. When I get them wrong, my dms 620 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: are full. So you fucking frauds out there who only 621 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: want to bash me when I lose it when I 622 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: when I get when wrong like this. Granted this was 623 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: an egregious one. It's an egregious one, but no, I 624 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: mean I've had worse. I've had worse you know l's 625 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: than this one. But this, this was, in terms of 626 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: fight analysis, a complete failure. So let that be part 627 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: of the record. Now that'd be said, I do want 628 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 1: to talk about Nemrika Madoff's tweet because okay, you had 629 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: a point. Did you want to get to that? 630 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 3: Well, I wanted to talk about the whole idea of 631 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: like Musasi's the middlewaight champion, but we've seen him in 632 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: the past operate at different weight classes. I think there's 633 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: a lot of fun fights given where he's at. I mean, look, 634 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: what is he going to prove at this point defending 635 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: the belt or middleweight title another four or five times. 636 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: I think he should look at the field. You know, 637 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: I talked about the idea of like a fad Or 638 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: fighter and bringing Anderson silver or whatever. But are you 639 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: looking at the field too and going maybe the best 640 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: thing he can do while he's still in such a 641 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: you know, secondary prime mode right now is is stockpile 642 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 3: as many accomplishments as he can. Would you love to 643 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: see him making a run at the winner of the 644 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 3: light heavyweight World Grand Prix between them Cough and Corey Anderson. 645 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: I'll say this, I don't really know what is right 646 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: for him, because I think your analysis is quite fair 647 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: that at middleweight he could keep he could probably keep 648 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: doing this, and maybe he wants to. I guess we'll see. 649 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: Or you go to two a five where this guy 650 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: did great work at two of five. Used to be 651 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: a two fiver for for some time in certain cases. 652 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't dislike the idea, and I 653 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: don't want to get right back to well, I don't 654 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: know if gig Guard can win that. Here's what I 655 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: would say. I only want him to compete when in 656 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: the space, whether it's two five, one eighty five, whoever 657 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: may be, if he's going to have the attitude that 658 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: he had on the mic afterwards with Big John, so 659 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: whatever puts him in the proper motivated space to get 660 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 1: the best out of himself or however he views that, 661 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: I'd prefer that because I would be honest, even if 662 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: you think Musasi is on the level of those top 663 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: two O fivers, and he may well be, you see, 664 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: you would agree a fight against them kov That's that's 665 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: a very difficult fight, even for big ass two ozho fivers. 666 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: Musasi is talented, but that that's a tough fight, right. 667 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: But I don't think Musasi would lose much if he 668 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: went up there and lost that, especially if he was 669 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: still the middleweight champion. He was the strikeforced light heavyweight champion. 670 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 3: We've seen him get big wins in that weight class. 671 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: I just think that that could be a fun direction 672 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: for him to go to continue to stockpile, you know, 673 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: the you know sort of he's had. 674 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: Is this. 675 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's rude to say, but I 676 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: like that term I use sometimes that people can backdoor 677 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: their way to the Hall of Fame without having the 678 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 3: big moment. Dustin Poier never won that that full championship 679 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: in the UFC yet, But you know, has he accomplished 680 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: enough if he walked away tomorrow to backdoor his way? 681 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: They probably? Yeah, Gay Guard, despite being a Belator Strikeforce champion, 682 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 3: never really had that big moment. I do think he's 683 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: got enough time left though to just pick and choose, 684 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: make fun fights, try to you know, I was surprised, 685 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 3: to be fair, Luke, that he didn't enter the two 686 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: of five Grand Prix to begin with. And as you 687 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: transition to Habeeb's tweet, I want to shout out Belatour 688 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 3: for something that video package they had about Page van 689 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 3: Zant and Austin Vanderford that led into the main event, 690 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: that showed, you know, their their spontaneity on social media 691 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 3: as a couple in the fact that Austin has always 692 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: embraced the mister pvz. That was very well done, Luke. 693 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: I mean, we can hate on PVZ. Sometimes it happens. 694 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: We can, it happens. I felt like that was like 695 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 3: the best representation of like who they are, what they're about, 696 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 3: and you know, so shout out to belt on that one. 697 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: Fair enough. Now let's get to that Habib tweet. He 698 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: tweets that Musas is the most underrated fighter in MMA. 699 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: He didn't say the most underrated middleweight. He didn't say 700 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: the most underrated you know guy that I like, he 701 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: said straight up, this dude is the most underrated. Let 702 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: me ask you why, assuming that is true, why is 703 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,239 Speaker 1: Musase not just by me? Because what if what have 704 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: you been saying? It's a lot of people. Why is 705 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: Musas so underrated in your mind relative to how he 706 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: should be viewed. 707 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 3: One would be the lack of that monster major moment, 708 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: like I'm talking about, having never actually fought for a 709 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 3: UFC title, let alone win one. It can keep him 710 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: out of not saying that that we're underrating him because 711 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: some of us are casuals. I just mean, like it 712 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: can prevent us, Like, I mean, look, you look at 713 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 3: the you know, you go to the Wikipedia page, You're like, 714 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 3: holy shit, he has one what now ten of eleven 715 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 3: going back to twenty fifteen, and you know there's finishes 716 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 3: of belfour in you're Iah Hall and Chris Widman. I mean, 717 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: you know, not to mention the guys he's beaten since 718 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: coming to Bellatour. His personality has never been one that 719 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 3: has commanded center stage by any means. It's always been understated. 720 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: And I think, Luke, you could argue that he left 721 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen to go to Bellatour, which is now 722 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: five years ago, at age thirty one, at the peak 723 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: of his physical prime. So had he stayed with the 724 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: UFC and plied his craft eventually gotten a John Jones 725 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 3: title shot or eventually got in a you know, Robert 726 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 3: Whittaker title shot at that point, whatever the circumstance was, 727 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 3: I think that lack of being in the number one 728 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 3: promotion in the most important fight, it's subdued. It's kept 729 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 3: him on the back, Luke, back of our minds. 730 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: I gonna remember he won, he won initially in Bellatour, 731 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: but the Schlamenko fight again, you can say what you 732 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: want about it. Maybe he wasn't motivated. He should have 733 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: lost that fight, you know what I mean, he didn't 734 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: just transition he had an immediate like sort of bumpy 735 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: period there. 736 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: I mean, look, he went he went four and I'm 737 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 3: trying to add up quickly here. He ultimately went five 738 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 3: and three in the UFC. 739 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: No one of those was the Hall loss, which was 740 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: you know. 741 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 3: I'm way off there. He he had three losses in 742 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 3: a span of like six fights upon arrival to the UFC. 743 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 3: And I think again, I think there was never a 744 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 3: point where fans took him super, super super serious outside 745 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 3: of us realizing that, you know, he's one of the best. 746 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 3: And I told you, you know, during the pandemic, when 747 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 3: we're starting to do that little project we did on 748 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: CBS Sports to sort of give the top ten in 749 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 3: the history of every division, you start to go, damn, dude, 750 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 3: he's got a lot of really good wins. And we 751 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 3: never talk about him as being one of the three 752 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: or four best middleweights of all time or whatever or 753 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 3: what have you. And I know some of that means 754 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: because he had, you know, he campaigned a light heavyweight. 755 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 3: But I don't know if that fully sums it up. Luke. 756 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 3: Sometimes just a person's personality if they're quiet and subdued, 757 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: and that's certainly him, doesn't allow them to make that leap. 758 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 3: But multiple promotions elite everywhere he's been. I love that 759 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 3: not only is he still getting not only is he 760 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: finally getting the love he deserves now people tweeting, you know, 761 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 3: hashtag legend, but that he's still got a window left 762 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 3: to do some to do whatever he wants with it. 763 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 1: Luke. So if he looks like that and he competes 764 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: like that, he's got time. He's got time. For sure. 765 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: He looked good. So there you go. That's the anatomy 766 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: of a failure. But the failures continue, BC, And now 767 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: you can join me, although not as bad, but we 768 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: still have to eat a little bit of crow. On 769 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: topic number three, Dude, this was unfreaking believable. I sat 770 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: there and watched this after the postfight show, and I 771 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: could not believe my eyes. Chris Colbert, who was I'm 772 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: not making this up a twenty two to one favorite, Yes, 773 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: twenty two to one. He didn't have anything for Hector 774 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: Luis Garcia, who was taking that fight on super short notice. BC. 775 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: Now you gave cold excuse me, you gave uh Gar 776 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more credit than I did, which you 777 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 1: should be acknowledged. But in the end, we both thought 778 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: Colbert was gonna basically kind of get this done in 779 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: spectacular fashion. Did we overestimate Colbert, did we underestimate Garcia? 780 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: Or both? 781 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Both, both everything. So, first of all, this is 782 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 3: a monster implosion from Chris Colbert. Monster And while I 783 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 3: you know, when you and I hosted the lead Into 784 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 3: the Way In on Friday, you know I gave our 785 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 3: Garcia on paper a little bit more credit. Say, look, 786 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 3: he was, you know, twenty sixteen Olympian southpaw. You know, 787 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 3: has never lost, although he hasn't beaten killers. You know, 788 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: this is the biggest fight of his career by far. 789 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 3: Filling in last minute? Can you still hear me, Luke, 790 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 3: I gotta froze. 791 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: I think it's I think I can see you just fine. 792 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: I think it's just the the zoom stream that froze. 793 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: You're fine. 794 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 3: But even I didn't believe that Garcia could come out 795 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 3: and land the combinations Press Forward have that high level 796 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 3: of IQ and technique and a little bit of pop 797 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 3: to set the foundation to do what he ultimately did. Now, look, 798 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 3: in order for him to do what he did, he 799 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 3: needed Colbert to implode. So is Colbert as good as 800 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 3: we thought? He was. I don't know, Luke. He looked 801 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 3: damn good climbing the ladder on paper. But I can't 802 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 3: overestimate or underestimate. I can't estimate anything right now, are 803 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 3: you hearing me? 804 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: I just keep going, just keep going, all right? 805 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: I mean, Luke. So here's what went wrong for Colbert. 806 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 3: I think he believed in himself. He believed in his 807 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: own headlines way too much. He's the flashy guy with 808 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 3: the haircut every fighter you know put. He brings awareness 809 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 3: to different charities, which is great. He's he can fight 810 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 3: and he can box. He's calling himself the next day 811 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: on Sanders. He's got celebrities tweet and you know he's 812 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 3: got everything to set up. I think he went in 813 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: there maybe not too dissimilar to Josh Taylor, by the way, 814 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 3: is just thinking late replacement. I don't get my title opportunity. 815 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 3: At the very least, I'm gonna put on a time 816 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 3: show on showtime and blow this guy away. And what 817 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 3: that ultimately met, Luke was no fundamentals, no jab, no 818 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 3: game plan. He walked in there thinking he's gonna get 819 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,959 Speaker 3: an easy knockout, and once this became a fight, Luke, 820 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 3: we didn't see any adjustment. We didn't see any spirited 821 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 3: rally outside of a couple counter shots, and I think 822 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 3: most damaging and like you could, you could say, BC, 823 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 3: you're being on fair hair, but I want to be 824 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 3: really clear, you're being last the last two rounds when 825 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 3: he circled away from action and chose not to fight 826 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 3: on even terms with Garcia, with his unbeaten streak on 827 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 3: the line and maybe maybe his star potential on the line, 828 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 3: he circled away and avoided contact. And then after the fight, 829 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 3: when asked about it, in which you're almost waiting, was 830 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 3: there an injury? Did he break his right hand? You 831 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 3: know what? What is the major malfunction here, whether it's 832 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 3: an excuse or not. And while I respect that he 833 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 3: came out and said the better guy beat me, the 834 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 3: fact that he answered Jim Gray's question of why did 835 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 3: you avoid contact by saying, oh, I didn't want to 836 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 3: get caught, Luke, that's a monster, monster warning sign. And 837 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 3: I don't want to ride that train that says in 838 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 3: boxing when you finally take your first loss, you're done 839 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,720 Speaker 3: and you'll never be the same because we've been proven 840 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 3: wrong too many times, and I don't want to live 841 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 3: in that world. But I also need Chris Colbert to 842 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 3: go back to the basics and prove me right right, 843 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 3: meaning to be that excited about his potential coming into 844 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: this fight, not just once, Luke, multiple times, because you 845 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 3: know how boxing fans, they're not always fair. No, they 846 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 3: hold they hold what Chris Colbert did in rounds eleven 847 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 3: and twelve, They hold that against you like a like 848 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 3: a sin that you don't come back from, lily, you know. 849 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: True of false. PC eleventh and twelfth round came around 850 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: and he was not trying to win. He was not 851 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: trying to win. 852 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 3: And he admitted it afterwards. He said, I was not 853 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 3: trying to win because I didn't want to get caught. 854 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 3: This was in my night. I wasn't gonna take a chance. 855 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. If you're calling yourself primetime, you're undefeated, you're 856 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 3: getting a main events slot, you're being primed for a 857 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 3: title shot, and the fight is not going your way. 858 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 3: This is no different than no Moss. This is no 859 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 3: different than rigging down walking out of the ring against 860 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 3: Lomachenko and being like f y'all. He did it a 861 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 3: different way, Luke, But it's no more respected, especially not 862 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 3: among the boxing hardcores this was Hector Garcia's night. I 863 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 3: want to see him fight Gutierrez for the world title. 864 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 3: I want to see him get rewarded for this. But 865 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 3: Chris Colbert's got a lot of explaining to do moving forward. 866 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: Dude. I'm so glad you brought one thing up, because 867 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: there was one thing I said on Friday which I 868 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: will stand by has been true in his career, although 869 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: was utterly absent in this fight, which was shocking to me. 870 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: The adjustments, Dude, Chris Colbert can make adjustments. I've seen 871 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: it numerous times and they were nowhere to be seen. 872 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,479 Speaker 1: I was floored after the sixth round. And it should 873 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: also be noted BC. Dude, it wasn't like Colbert's corner 874 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: wasn't telling him the right things, both in terms of 875 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: tactical switching and also like, dude, you are losing this fight. 876 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: They were very very clear to him what the score was, 877 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: both metaphorically and then probably you know, they had a 878 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: clear sense that he was way down on the rounds. 879 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: They were not giving him bad info. They were giving 880 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: him exactly what. I don't know exactly what he needed 881 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,479 Speaker 1: because it didn't change, but they were doing their damn 882 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: their level best to impart to him the urgency of it, 883 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: and it had no effect. And also you start watching 884 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: him BC go back. He had a decent second round, 885 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: if I recall, and then not much after that, right 886 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: around the fourth or fifth round, he goes back to 887 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: the corner. He's still in pretty good shape because at 888 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: this point he is still standing and he has his 889 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: arms under ropes and he has this look on his 890 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: face like, Okay, I punted the first third of this fight. 891 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: To you, I'm terribly unconcerned with it. And you could 892 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: see the look on his trainers being like, are you 893 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: listening to me? Do you hear what I'm saying to you? Dude? 894 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: This was a super super off performance with him. I'm 895 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: with you. It is foolish to take a twenty five 896 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: year old guy and look at this and say this 897 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: is the best he can do and anytime he levels up, 898 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: he's going to do this. We have no idea if 899 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: that's true, but it is shocking that a guy this 900 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: good turned into performance this uninspired. Now, I also want 901 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: to say something though. One of the reasons why he 902 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: was uninspired was I think he took his opponent lightly 903 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: and then more to that point. We got to give 904 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: credit to Garcia. Dude. He was all business from the 905 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: first round on. He was jabbing up the face of Colbert, 906 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: and dude, he had good, smart, intelligent boxing for the 907 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: duration of that contest. He never bought into the traps. 908 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 1: He never bought into the complicating things that sometimes Colbert 909 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 1: was trying. He had a lunch pail, but a highly 910 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: intelligent boxing game as well, and he put Colbert in 911 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: spaces He did not think he was going to be 912 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: You gotta give Garcia credit for that, you know. 913 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 3: And it's the same thing that we're gonna talk about 914 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 3: Jack Catterall in a second. You know, Garcia's record up 915 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 3: to this point didn't suggest that this was possible, but 916 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 3: he raised his game in the moment. He had the 917 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 3: amateur credentials. And again, I want to see Hector Garcia again. 918 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 3: I want to see my showtime again. I want to 919 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 3: see him get a big opportunities. But Luke, you know, 920 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 3: I tweeted that, you know, short of getting starched in 921 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 3: round one and ko, this was worst case scenario for Colbert, 922 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 3: and I think some people in the no tweeted me 923 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 3: back rightfully so and they're like, nah, BC. It would 924 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 3: have been better if he got Ko one here and 925 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 3: didn't show us, you know, didn't show us all the cards, 926 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 3: you know, and the cards this time they were not there. 927 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 3: I don't want to. It's tough to make a comparison 928 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 3: here because Tayo Fimo Lopez just imploded big time against 929 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 3: Cambosas and we don't know what's gonna happen with Tao. 930 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 3: But do you remember when before Tayo Femo beat Lomachenko, 931 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 3: he had that fight against Masa Yoshi Nakatani in twenty nineteen. 932 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: Yes, and he came out to MGM and DC. 933 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 3: He came out flat as can be, and you know 934 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 3: what we found out later. Of course, I've told the 935 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 3: story before that his parent, his mother and his sister 936 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 3: was like verbally attacking Tao's new wife backstage, and he 937 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 3: thought there was going to be a physical like his 938 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 3: whole world was blown up. And he came out there 939 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 3: against a determined, technically strong opponent, and he was down early, 940 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 3: and he looked like shit, to be fair, but look, 941 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 3: he gutted it out. He rallied, and he pulled off 942 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 3: a decision, and ultimately he was better for having done that. 943 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 3: He came back against Limachenko proved us all wrong that 944 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 3: he is the goods Well, Tayo, you're gonna have to 945 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 3: prove us all wrong again of course against Cambosa's. But 946 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 3: Colbert had that same opportunity in the second half to 947 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 3: have that Masioshi nik Knakatani type fight, and look, he 948 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 3: didn't try. That's that's that's the problem. You didn't see 949 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 3: the the the want, the will, and that's again something 950 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 3: that he's gonna have to go back to the to 951 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 3: the lab and ask himself, did I freeze in my moment? 952 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 3: Am I ready to for this much smoke to willingly 953 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,439 Speaker 3: tell everybody that I'm the next big thing on this night? 954 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 3: He wasn't. 955 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 1: Luke so. 956 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 3: High drama, high theater and a triple header on Saturday 957 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 3: that that gave us. I mean, look, we're we don't 958 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 3: really have room in this show to break it down. 959 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 3: But did you see that opener, the. 960 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: On Cajas Jerwin on Cajas fight. Yeah, yeah, almost it 961 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: was the opener. We barely even talked about it last week, 962 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: and it's arguably already in contention for fight of the 963 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 1: year for boxing. 964 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 3: I mean, what you know, folks, if you want to 965 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 3: go back and get your thirty days free of showtime 966 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 3: and check that fight out. Good lord, what a fight, 967 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,439 Speaker 3: So great night for boxing and Luke. Just to double down, 968 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 3: I know there's got to be MMA fans going, Are 969 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 3: you serious? You guys aren't going to talk about Armin 970 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 3: Saryukin Like, what the what the f is wrong with you? 971 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: Guys? Oh we are. He's gonna lead extra credit. We're 972 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: gonna go into it. And I did a post and 973 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: I did a post fight show where we got it. 974 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so why don't you shut up? MMA fans? 975 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: All right, we're getting to the stuff we haven't gotten 976 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 1: to yet. This was bad. This was a This was 977 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, the Vanderford one. I can look in the 978 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: face and be like, yeah, I could have done some 979 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: things differently to get at least, even if we're wrong, 980 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: still a better prediction. This one shocked me, truly truly 981 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 1: shocked me. Did not see it coming. But credit to Garcia. 982 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: You're right, he has earned every piece of what comes next. 983 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 1: He is a very good boxer and I honestly cannot 984 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: wait to see what he does. Also, I should say, BC, 985 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: we have to stand by where we are. Chris Colbert 986 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: does appear to be a smart boxer. We're going to 987 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: see if he's a smart competitor by how he rebounds 988 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: from this, if he really sort of dials down and 989 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: takes a focus, a much more focused approach. I think 990 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: he can look at this and honestly raise his game 991 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: from it. But if he doesn't take the right questions 992 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 1: from this and look himself in the mirror, this will 993 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: rear its head again. So we'll have to see how 994 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: it goes. Now, BC, let's get to the one that 995 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: what turned out to be the oh you know what 996 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: real quickly. I want to make note of this Victor Postall, 997 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: who is a Ukrainian national who after the fight reportedly 998 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: flew back to Poland to go sneak into Ukraine to 999 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: go be with his wife and twin sons who are 1000 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: in Kiev. He loses to Gary Antoine Russell. And now 1001 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Russell I thought did a great job. 1002 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: He earned this one. The stoppage sucked. Post All should 1003 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: not have been stopped. I completely hated the stoppage, But BC, 1004 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: Gary Antoine Russell did a great job. He leveled up 1005 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: in this fight. He was the fair winner, even if 1006 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: it shouldn't have been a TKO. My heart goes out 1007 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: for post All, but Russell showed class in victory. It 1008 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,439 Speaker 1: was what it was right. 1009 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 3: There was a big opportunity here for Gary Antoine Russell 1010 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 3: to show us he's legit. And even though postal was 1011 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 3: thirty eight, look at that resume, look at the guys 1012 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 3: that he either beat or fought incredible against, and Russell 1013 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 3: beat him, and look he was on his way to 1014 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,240 Speaker 3: winning decision. The stoppages, you know, from a good referee 1015 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 3: and Michael Ortega out of Connecticut by the way, but 1016 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 3: you know you can't defend the stoppage. But look we 1017 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 3: had said coming in that Russell, you know he's not 1018 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 3: the slickster of his brother, Gary Russell Junior, who was 1019 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 3: in his corner. Of course, he's a little bit more 1020 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 3: of a heavier puncher and he goes after it. This 1021 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 3: was a veteran performance. I mean, like I can't pick 1022 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 3: up like one thing that tells you. Russell, you know, 1023 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 3: jumped through the screen. It was just solid across the board. 1024 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 3: He navigated distance well, he used heavy jabs and countershots. 1025 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 3: He fought like a veteran and he is ready for 1026 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 3: the big names. At one point after this win, a 1027 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 3: great win for him. And that quote, by the way, 1028 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 3: that I think Mauro Ronaldo relayed about postal that not 1029 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 3: only Luke is he flying to Poland to try to 1030 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 3: sneak into the Ukraine. But he's you know, he's prepared 1031 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 3: to walk if he has to, like walk across the 1032 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 3: country to get to his wife and twin five year 1033 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 3: old sons. And you know, obviously in that situation, you know, 1034 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,760 Speaker 3: you and I would would cratch, scratch, crawl and scratch 1035 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 3: and do whatever it took to defend our family. But 1036 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 3: my heart goes out to him, to the Klitschko brothers, 1037 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 3: to Lomachenko and Usik, who have now you know, come 1038 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 3: back to the country and and taken up arms. I mean, Luke, 1039 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 3: the I mean the Pat Tillman story was rightfully applauded 1040 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 3: for his bravery and his his pride in his country. 1041 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 3: But but these guys, you know, I mean Tillman included. 1042 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 3: You know, they have millions of reasons to take a 1043 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 3: desk job here, and and they're they're willing to risk 1044 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 3: it all. I don't even know how to analyze that 1045 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 3: as a fight analyst. Luke, that's you know it's crazy 1046 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 3: times and and and desperate measures, but uh, these guys 1047 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 3: are all in and I couldn't support them more. 1048 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: No, I couldn't support them more either. It's obviously a 1049 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: horrendous and adg nobly difficult situation. I was talking about 1050 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,439 Speaker 1: this with my wife, like, why would post All take 1051 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: this fight given the circumstances. My only read would be 1052 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: probably for economic necessity. They probably probably wanted to get 1053 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: as big a check as he could before in going 1054 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: on this dude, I'll be honest, deadly I'm not gonna 1055 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: call him adventure because that sounds frivolous, but this deadly 1056 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,919 Speaker 1: cause that he is on, or at least this dangerous cause, 1057 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: I should say that he's on to go back to 1058 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 1: and I'll blame him for it. Of course, what would 1059 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: you do? What would any of us do? We'd probably 1060 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:28,839 Speaker 1: do the exact same thing, at least we would hope 1061 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: we would do something even approximating the bravery of this man. 1062 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 1: But that was my only thought, was that he's probably 1063 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: just trying to get as much of a nest egg 1064 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: as he could given the circumstances. But to the last 1065 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,840 Speaker 1: thing I'll say is we didn't quite see it here, 1066 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,359 Speaker 1: but Antoine Russell Junior, Gary Antoine Russell or Gary Antwine Russell. 1067 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: Excuse me now, Russell Junior. But we see I will 1068 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: say this. At first of the fight was kind of 1069 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: up and down. He took over late. He took over late. 1070 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: The last like four or five rounds were pretty clearly his. 1071 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: It was a nice performance from Russell. You wanted to 1072 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: see something nice for post all given the circumstances. But 1073 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean not flash Russell did what he was supposed 1074 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: to do, his. 1075 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 3: Brother's flashy Gary Antoine. I saw a solid lose and 1076 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 3: that was a strong victory. 1077 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's talk about this now. We have 1078 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: some some I won't call it breaking news, but news 1079 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 1: that broke since the fight before today's show, So let's 1080 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: talk about it. Josh Taylor, who we had all considered, 1081 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: I think the boxing world had considered a top ten 1082 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: pounds four pound guy, one of the few to ever 1083 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,959 Speaker 1: have an undisputed hold over a weight class, currently holds 1084 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: all the belts he fought, mandatory WBO challenger, Jack Catterall 1085 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: and BC. I don't say this very often. In fact, 1086 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 1: I make it a point not to say it because 1087 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 1: fight fans, boxing or MMA. They go to this all 1088 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: the time, and I really disagree with it because he 1089 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 1: usually signals poor understanding of the scoring criteria. I'm gonna 1090 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: call this a robbery. This is a robbery, dude, Jack Caterall, 1091 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: he beat Taylor. I know Dan Rafael had a score 1092 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 1: that was a little bit more inclined towards Taylor. I 1093 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: understand that, but I'm sorry, I just don't, especially with 1094 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: the with the fouls canceling each other out and the 1095 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: knockdown he got outlanded nearly two to one by Jack Catterall. 1096 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't understand this. Here's what I'm gonna say. BBC, 1097 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: the British Board excuse me, the British Boxing Board of 1098 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: Control has confirmed, according to Sky Sports, they're going to 1099 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: investigate the scoring of this fight. BC. Was it a robbery? 1100 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 3: It's just clu You know, I hate that too, right, 1101 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 3: because there's so many times we scream robbery, And why 1102 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 3: do we scream robbery every time? Because boxing is Boxing's 1103 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 3: full of shad at times, Luke, I, that's supposed to 1104 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 3: be absolutely upfront and fair. You know, it's it's it's 1105 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 3: an addiction in the US hardcore as we stand by 1106 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 3: it man, we love it, but it'll break your heart 1107 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 3: and it's not always fair to the to the B side. 1108 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 3: I want to avoid robbery because you know, this is 1109 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 3: a homecoming fight for Josh Taylor and he's the bigger fighter. 1110 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 3: So are the judges hearing the crowd And every time 1111 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 3: Taylor lands, are they thinking it's landing harder? And you know, 1112 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 3: to be fair, Luke, there were four, maybe even five 1113 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 3: close ish rounds. Now, I'll we watched this fight a 1114 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 3: second time to make sure I didn't miss it. But 1115 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 3: you know, upon second watch and really close scoring, you know, 1116 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 3: I still had it eight rounds to four for Jack Eederall. 1117 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 3: So you know, even if a couple of those close rounds, 1118 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 3: you go in the fairly like I thought, andre Ward 1119 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 3: scorecard giving Taylor's worri talking about that dude, what the 1120 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 3: fuck was he just missed it? It just you know, 1121 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 3: I mean, he's calling the fight remotely from his house 1122 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 3: and I and I and first of all, I think 1123 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 3: andre Ward's actually he might be the best fight analyst 1124 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 3: in the game today, so you know, so certainly no disrespect, 1125 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 3: but no, he got this wrong and he missed it. 1126 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 3: Caterall was unlucky. He was unfortunate. But a robbery implies 1127 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 3: that there was shenanigans behind the scenes. And we see 1128 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 3: a lot of scorecards, Luke. Sometimes the scorecards don't even 1129 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 3: affect who won, but that third score card will be 1130 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 3: so weird, or it'll be like one eighteen one ten 1131 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 3: in the other direction, and you're like, tell me that 1132 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 3: wasn't a paid for scorecard. Tell me either that judge 1133 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 3: has no idea what the sport means, or they got 1134 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 3: paid off. I don't think anybody got paid off here, Luke, 1135 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 3: but they straight up got it wrong. So it's as 1136 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 3: close to a robbery if you want to call it that, 1137 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 3: that's fine. But there's a reason why we thought Josh 1138 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 3: Taylor was going to roll over him, not only being 1139 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 3: unbeat and they underspeeded champion a pound for pound top ten. Look, 1140 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 3: did you see the combined record of Josh Taylor's last 1141 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 3: seven opponents coming in was one hundred and sixty two 1142 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 3: to one. He could not have been more battle tested. 1143 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 3: I think like thirteen of his previous fourteen opponents had 1144 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 3: been unbeat in some like ridiculous stat I mean, it's 1145 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 3: just crazy, and like Hector Luis Garcia, Jack Caterall's previous 1146 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 3: resume did not suggest that this was possible. But now 1147 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 3: that I've watched it twice, now that we've all watched it, 1148 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 3: there's a couple of ways people tend to figure out 1149 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 3: who won. And they're not all scientific, right, because it's 1150 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 3: a ten point must system ten to nine. But if 1151 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 3: you watch us without scoring, you definitely thought Caterall won. 1152 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 3: He dropped the champ, he bloodied him up, he landed 1153 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 3: the bigger shots. If you followed the CompuBox stat and 1154 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 3: thought that was the story. As you mentioned, Caterall landed 1155 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,959 Speaker 3: twice as many punches. But even if you actually scored it, Luke, 1156 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 3: I don't get it. I don't get that third score 1157 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,840 Speaker 3: card fourteen one to eleven for Taylor, which with the 1158 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 3: point deductions, means somebody gave Josh Taylor eight rounds. That's 1159 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 3: just not the case. Oh how, that's just not the case. 1160 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 1: You see, When I say robbery, I want to be 1161 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: clear about something. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just 1162 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 1: I can only speak for myself when I say robbery. 1163 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if there was corruption, I don't know 1164 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: if it's incompetence. I can't I don't have the information 1165 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: to tell you exactly at how those scorecards were arrived. 1166 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,280 Speaker 1: What I can tell you is eight rounds for Taylor 1167 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: is impossible. It is impossible. How can you find eight 1168 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,879 Speaker 1: rounds for him? I don't understand that. 1169 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,320 Speaker 3: And upon examination of the scoring, you know the judges 1170 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 3: were heavily favored Taylor in the second half. And here's 1171 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 3: what I'll say. Taylor did quote unquote come on in 1172 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 3: the second half, but he wasn't landing clean shots. He 1173 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 3: was leaning all over Caterall. In fact, he took him 1174 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 3: down on like a double leg in round ten. But 1175 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, he wasn't landing. So why did Josh Taylor 1176 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,320 Speaker 3: lose this fight? One? I think he overlooked Jack Caterall. 1177 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,879 Speaker 3: We all did. Caterall had been the mandatory for two 1178 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 3: full years and had kept taking step aside money to 1179 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 3: allow Josh Taylor to fight all of these big names 1180 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 3: to unify the titles. So did he overlook him? Yes, 1181 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 3: Taylor allside a knee injury and COVID during training camp. 1182 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 3: So a lot of people do. But Luke, Josh Taylor 1183 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 3: never committed to his jab. He's pawing with it. He's 1184 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 3: looking for that one big shot knockout the whole time. 1185 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 3: And to be fair, he's the big star having a 1186 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 3: homecoming fight that's being broadcast live on ESPN, So you know, 1187 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 3: for whatever it took for him to overlook Caterall, Caterall 1188 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 3: also leaped through the screen with a camboso slight performance, 1189 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 3: not as aggressive, but in his own manner. The counter shots, 1190 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 3: how sharp, dude, Jack Carroll. 1191 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 1: That left was it the left froom Caterall that just 1192 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: constantly gave Taylor problems. 1193 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 3: But it was his jab consistently scoring, and I think 1194 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 3: that's what the judges missed. And you know, across the 1195 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 3: board finding out that Jack Catterall at age nineteen, had 1196 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 3: moved to the States, didn't have a big amateur career, 1197 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 3: and was a sparring partner for Floyd Mayweather who kept 1198 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 3: getting called back in. Was then a sparring partner for 1199 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 3: Canelo back in twenty sixteen, then became a warm up 1200 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,439 Speaker 3: guy for Amir Khan and kel Brooks. So he's put 1201 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 3: in the time, Luke, and he sort of backdoored his 1202 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 3: own experience to get to this point. But again, like Cambosis, 1203 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 3: like Hector Garcia, this is the performance of his lifetime. 1204 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 3: He deserved better. When he tweets afterwards or IG's afterwards, 1205 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 3: how heartbroken he is because financially they took him. That 1206 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 3: to me is the robbery, Luke. I think the judges 1207 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 3: got it wrong in the end. I don't think there 1208 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 3: was corruption involved, but they robbed him of the financial 1209 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 3: payday and rewards that should come from this, because what 1210 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 3: Taylor said afterwards was, you know, I don't think there 1211 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,240 Speaker 3: should be a rematch. I thought I'd beat him clearly. 1212 00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, I'm probably moving up to 1213 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 3: welterway next. Anyway, what a brilliant, brilliant, heady performance from Caterall, 1214 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 3: who never buckled with sharp as hell, had a great 1215 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 3: strategic game plan. This was Josh Taylor's worst night at 1216 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 3: the office, Luke, and he got beyond lucky to uh 1217 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 3: to not have this their you know, not have this 1218 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 3: one on his win loss record. I do want to say, Luke, 1219 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 3: maybe it's because I'm jaded. Maybe it's because I've been 1220 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 3: through this so often. Maybe it's because I've smelt corruption 1221 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 3: so many times in boxing. I didn't like all the 1222 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 3: people tweeting this was what's wrong with boxing. This is 1223 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:40,919 Speaker 3: why I'll never get ahead. This wasn't that bad, Luke, Okay, kay, Luke, 1224 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 3: it's pretty bad. I mean it's bad. It's bad. The 1225 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 3: judge got it wrong. But have you ever swam in 1226 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 3: this poast? 1227 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: This is a this is I understand your point that 1228 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 1: you're making, but we should say something here. When Cambosis 1229 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: beat Lopez, it wasn't just big because an unheralded guy 1230 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: are previously on heralded came in and took all the 1231 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 1: belts from the guy who had all this acclaim and 1232 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: that's a big story, upsetting the apple card and surprising everyone. 1233 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 1: That's not the story. The story is that he was 1234 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: a mandatory for one of the belts. That's how the 1235 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: system is supposed to work. It's supposed to work that 1236 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 1: a guy who puts himself in a position enough to 1237 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: merit a title shot for whatever the belt is doesn't 1238 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: have to get put to the side all the time. Anyway. 1239 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 1: I know they take step aside money down again, but 1240 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: the point is you've earned your shot, you get it 1241 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what kind of commercial acclaim may or may 1242 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: not be there. And it worked for Campboses. The system 1243 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: worked for him, dude. The system failed Jack Catterall. He 1244 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: got to his spot totally fairly. He was a mandatory 1245 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: title challenger. He did exactly what he was supposed to do, 1246 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: and he gets none of the rewards financial or otherwise. Dude, 1247 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: they fucked him hardcore. I understand not just being disappointed, 1248 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 1: but losing faith in a boxing system where this is 1249 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 1: supposed to be the cases where these skies finally get 1250 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 1: a chance to break through and they fucking robbed him 1251 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 1: from it. That is bad, dude, That's very, very bad. 1252 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 3: I mean, what am I doing right now? Am I 1253 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 3: unnecessarily protecting this sport that's unprotectable. I just think you 1254 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 3: know the rounds were I think you can watch them 1255 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 3: back and go, Okay, Ketederall won that round, but I 1256 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 3: think they're close Ish Looke. 1257 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: We've seen eight rounds, dude. For Taylor, we've. 1258 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 3: Seen way worse. 1259 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, c j les existed, Yes, I understand. 1260 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 1: I see. This is why I think it's a critical distinction. 1261 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: It'd be one distinction if you just like, oh, the 1262 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 1: judges aren't good at their job, which maybe that's just 1263 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 1: the best explanation. The judges just weren't very good. I 1264 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 1: don't know, right, but it's another one to be like 1265 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: the system of boxing, let a guy down who was 1266 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: supposed to be protected in this case, that will engender 1267 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: a greater level of cynicism than just the ordinary I'm 1268 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 1: putting ordinary quotes here. Judges getting it wrong. 1269 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,680 Speaker 3: I could be too far gone, Luke in a lot 1270 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 3: of areas my life. Okay, be honest with me, Just 1271 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 3: be straight up about it. 1272 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Again, Dude. I don't use the word very often, but 1273 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 1: when you put yourself in that kind of a position, 1274 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 1: you turn in that kind of an effort, the system 1275 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 1: shouldn't fuck you like with that? All right? What do 1276 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 1: you think? 1277 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 3: Well, quick, quickly, quickly about scoring Jake Paul? What do 1278 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 3: you think about this tweet from Jake Paul? I think 1279 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 3: there should be terrible idea six boxing judges for title 1280 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 3: fights three pairs of two, and each pair have to 1281 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 3: agree on the same score or they are They are 1282 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 3: allowed to briefly debate it with reasoning No, that's the 1283 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 3: wrong way. 1284 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 1: But like our regular terrible idea, like our. 1285 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 3: Regular debates whenever there's a bad mma scoring situation because 1286 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 3: not of corruption, but maybe the criteria can be you know, 1287 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 3: confusing or whatever. Is it just time to go to 1288 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 3: five judges and count only the three middle scores and 1289 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 3: cut out the outliers. I mean that, like, what, how 1290 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 3: is that not happening already? Luke? We you know what 1291 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 3: I'm saying? 1292 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 1: Like that because no one is actively lobbying for commissions 1293 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 1: to do that. 1294 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 3: Okay, what about open scoring? Something I hate? But I 1295 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 3: saw combat tweet that they're going to open scoring next, 1296 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 3: and you know we've had a lot of people do that. 1297 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 3: Would that have changed anything in this fight for you? 1298 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 1: Again, I'm one of these people who believes that we 1299 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: need to see more data if i'm open scoring. But like, 1300 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: here's the point about it. If they had, let's say 1301 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 1: they had done open scoring and by round ten you 1302 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 1: got what you got with the scores, like, oh, Catterall 1303 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 1: would have Like what would You're now making him do 1304 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,479 Speaker 1: even more work and take more risk than he would 1305 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: have ordered he did? He already turned in a winning performance. 1306 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 1: Why is it incomment upon him to do more because 1307 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,919 Speaker 1: the judges can't do their job. 1308 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,479 Speaker 3: Well, that's part of why I don't want open scoring 1309 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 3: in boxing, because I think it changes that. But I 1310 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 3: will say, look, dude, you're gonna get a bad scorecard 1311 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 3: now and then just because again you're not on Twitter. 1312 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 3: You're sitting there, you're scoring, you're handing in your ten 1313 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 3: to nine whatever, and the crowd's going sick behind you. 1314 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 3: Maybe you're blocked by the referee. So if that can happen, 1315 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 3: go five judges, cut out the highs and lows and 1316 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 3: you get a more accurate depiction you would. 1317 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: You know, let's see what the British Board of Control 1318 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 1: does the boxing, essentially sanctioning body. Let's see what they 1319 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 1: do here. I'd be very curious to see if anything 1320 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 1: comes from this BC. What fight was? It was that 1321 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 1: the Paul Williams fight in Jersey where the scores were 1322 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: so bad they actually pulled all the judges from future work. 1323 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 1: And did they overturn the result as well? 1324 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 3: They didn't. I don't think no, they didn't overturn it. 1325 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 3: But that was the Arislandi Lara fight where everyone saw 1326 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 3: him just counter Williams to death and then not get 1327 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 3: credit for it. 1328 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, last point on this point number five. 1329 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 1: In today's rundown, Canelo Alvarez has signed a two possibly 1330 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 1: three fight deal with his own for sure, we know 1331 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 1: about two. He'll take on Dmitri bivell I think at 1332 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 1: one to seventy five and take on Triple G. I 1333 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,000 Speaker 1: think around one to six year I double check. I'm 1334 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 1: not sure he might end up fighting a third fight. 1335 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 1: We don't know yet BC. There was a chance he 1336 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 1: was going to stay at PBC and fight Charlo and 1337 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 1: maybe David Benavidez. That was the rumored offer out there. 1338 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 1: We're not entirely sure because Chotan doesn't tell us anything, 1339 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 1: but that was at least what was reported out there. 1340 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: He went this direction. I want to talk about his 1341 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 1: own punting on pay per view in just a second, 1342 01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 1: but in terms of what this opponent choices might mean, 1343 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 1: whther that's the two or the three on his own 1344 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: or the two he would have faced on PBC. What 1345 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 1: does this say about the next chapter of Canelo's career. 1346 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 3: Well, look, he has the control. We all know that 1347 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 3: coming in and for the for the most part, almost perfectly. 1348 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 3: Canello has made decisions up to this point that have 1349 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 3: benefited him financially for sure, but he's been responsible as 1350 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,439 Speaker 3: the face of the sport, still challenging himself constantly. So look, 1351 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard for us to come out here 1352 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 3: and go well. Collectively, Charlo and Benavidez are more dangerous 1353 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 3: than Beval and maybe Triple G in the fall. I mean, 1354 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 3: is that true? I think so. I think they would 1355 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 3: have been more challenging fights. But up front, Canello can 1356 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 3: do what he wants. Floyd did what he wants, but 1357 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 3: we can't go overboard in being upset. Look, take out 1358 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 3: the showtime part of it, in the PBC part of 1359 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 3: it altogether for entertainment purposes. What I've rather seen Jamal 1360 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 3: Charlow and David Benavitez at one sixty eight hundred percent, 1361 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 3: no question. I love Dabitri Bevall, by the way, but 1362 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 3: that fight's not screaming entertainment action. Most people don't even 1363 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 3: know who Bevall is. But I can't sit here and 1364 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 3: crap on Canelo because Bevall's an unbeaten champion at one 1365 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five pounds who has quick feet and 1366 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 3: as technical as shit. That could be a trap fight. 1367 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 3: That's not something you know. That's not Avney yielderam or 1368 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 3: Callum Smith even you know what I mean. This is 1369 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 3: potentially a tough fight in a division one seventy five 1370 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 3: where Canelo has only been once and yeah, he knocked 1371 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 3: out old Kovalev, but he was arguably down on the 1372 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,160 Speaker 3: scorecards when he did that late entering the championship rounds. 1373 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 3: So what does this say about Canelo? It says that 1374 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 3: financially he's gonna look for the biggest option, And there 1375 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 3: were reports that the PBC even came back to him 1376 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 3: and kicked in more money. And I think what got 1377 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 3: confusing in all this, Luke, was you know, my coppinger 1378 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 3: of ESPN was reporting every nugget in whisper and I 1379 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 3: thought sometimes maybe they were using him for leverage to 1380 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 3: put certain things out there. Yeah, at the end of 1381 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 3: the day, Canello chose, you know, he he he loves 1382 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 3: working with Eddie Herne and Matchroom Sport, and I think 1383 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 3: they're been enough people getting on him over the years 1384 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 3: to say, look, Canelo, we can't say a lot of 1385 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 3: We really can't say many bad things against you. But 1386 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 3: one of the things people don't love is that he 1387 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 3: waited out Triple G two years to finally fight him, 1388 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 3: and then had two close fights in Canelo got the 1389 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 3: benefit of everything, even though Luke, it's not insane to 1390 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,760 Speaker 3: say Canelo won the second fight. Second fight's great and 1391 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 3: I scored both for a triple G. I did, but 1392 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 3: he's always said I don't care about a third triple 1393 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 3: G fight, but the fans want it. In fact, Luke 1394 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 3: disowned built their whole freaking platform on the idea that 1395 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 3: they were gonna get Triple G Canelo three. So if 1396 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 3: he's doing this as part of like, look, I'm gonna 1397 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 3: fight Beval, which is no easy task, but I'm also 1398 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,920 Speaker 3: gonna give the fans what they really wanted. And Luke, 1399 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 3: while less hardcorees have fear that glovekin, who has been 1400 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 3: in a few action fights. He's won them, but he's 1401 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 3: been in a few action fights in which he didn't 1402 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,800 Speaker 3: look all that money, as you would say, since those 1403 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,040 Speaker 3: Canelo fights, as he's getting close to forty, we think 1404 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 3: that's a potential one side of fight. Well, mainstream fans, 1405 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 3: they love that rivalry. They want to see that. It's 1406 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 3: big business. He's the face of the sport. So am 1407 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 3: I disappointed that after winning all four titles at one 1408 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 3: sixty eight, he's not now challenging himself against two guys 1409 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 3: with very interesting styles, including David David Benavidez, who most people, 1410 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 3: including you, Luke, believe maybe is the toughest challenge available. Yeah, 1411 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 3: as a fan, I'm a little disappointed, but as much 1412 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:26,960 Speaker 3: as I want to jump the fence and be like, 1413 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 3: you know what, Cano, you fucked us over this time, bro, 1414 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 3: you pussy No dude, come on, Canelo has done nothing 1415 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,760 Speaker 3: but challenge himself and dare to be great. This Dmitri 1416 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,840 Speaker 3: Bevall fight is like a possible trap fight. I don't 1417 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 3: care if you know MMA fans don't think it's a 1418 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 3: fun fight and don't get into it. It's a big 1419 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 3: ass fight. And if he's going to package that with 1420 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 3: a third one to close the year, which Eddie Hearn 1421 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,919 Speaker 3: was saying, could be either who are they saying? 1422 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 1: Luke, John Rabo Micabo was one. 1423 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 3: Micabo was one moving up to Cruiserwey and again are 1424 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 3: you gonna criticize that? And the other one was Englishman 1425 01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 3: John Ryder who just beat Danny Jacobs. I don't love 1426 01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 3: that fight. But if he's gonna fight three times in 1427 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 3: a year, Luke, you can fight whoever you want. 1428 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's active, Just as a general rule, it's 1429 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 1: hard to be too upset. 1430 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1431 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 3: And if they did that in the UK in a 1432 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 3: soccer stadium and he got the full Anthony Joshua treatment 1433 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,840 Speaker 3: look Canello like Floyd. When you get to this point, 1434 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 3: you could do ever whatever the hell you want as 1435 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,480 Speaker 3: a fan. Not my favorite choice in the end, but 1436 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 3: you gotta respect the bev All challenge. 1437 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 1: I'll say this. I mean, I'm like half in the bag, 1438 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 1: and yes, we worked for Showtime. Did we want him 1439 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: to sign with PBC so we could go and cover 1440 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,360 Speaker 1: his fights for Showtime? Of course we did. I'll tell 1441 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 1: you this, Here's how I feel about it. 1442 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 3: One. 1443 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 1: I love the Bivall fight. I think that's part to me, 1444 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 1: that's just part of what Canelo has been doing in 1445 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 1: the last few years, really trying to challenge himself. I 1446 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,280 Speaker 1: think that's a very very difficult fight. He probably should 1447 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,880 Speaker 1: maybe can win it, but that one could easily go 1448 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 1: the other way. I really respect it. The Triple G fight. 1449 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't hate for the reasons that big fights like 1450 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 1: this get made, but I don't love it either, dude. 1451 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't do anything for me. A Triple G probably 1452 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,640 Speaker 1: won the first time. I don't think he won the 1453 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 1: second time, and I definitely don't think he's gonna win 1454 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 1: the third time. Although we know those predictions don't mean 1455 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,720 Speaker 1: jack shit. But I'm just saying from a personal level, 1456 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't do much for me. This is the one 1457 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 1: thing I wanted to ask you about. So I spend 1458 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 1: some time looking at like what we're boxing fans saying 1459 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 1: online about this choice, given the reported PBC versus his 1460 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: own potential opportunities, and what they had said was something 1461 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,360 Speaker 1: I thought was kind of interesting. BC. You and I 1462 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 1: have been of the belief that, you know, David Benavidez 1463 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,639 Speaker 1: has been the architect of his own problems more than once, 1464 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 1: but seems to have kind of figured that out more recently. 1465 01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 1: And just you look at the style contrast that might 1466 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,639 Speaker 1: give Canelo some real problems. But what I saw from 1467 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 1: folks was Charlo wouldn't so that would cancel out the 1468 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 1: triple G fight. And so if you had to ask 1469 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 1: what was tougher for let me just say what they said. 1470 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 1: Let me just say what they said. So what they 1471 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 1: said was if those two cancel each other out as 1472 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,680 Speaker 1: like the weaker fights of the two, then you have 1473 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 1: Benavidez versus Bivoll, Right, those are the two tougher fights 1474 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 1: he could have had. I see a lot of fans 1475 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,840 Speaker 1: saying Bivoll would be the much harder fight of the two. 1476 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,000 Speaker 1: How do you respond to that? 1477 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that part of it. I 1478 01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,000 Speaker 3: don't like the overwhelming negative against the idea of a 1479 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,680 Speaker 3: Canelo Charlo fight. Look, is Jamal Charlo coming off a 1480 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 3: maybe the worst performance you know of his big run here, 1481 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 3: winning against Mantielle but not looking great. Yes, he's also 1482 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 3: coming off trep big time troubles with the law, and 1483 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 3: I get he's moving up in wait that Canelo would 1484 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,920 Speaker 3: be you know, favored, you know, fairly firmly. But look, 1485 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,679 Speaker 3: Jamal Charlo is bring certain into you know, physical things 1486 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 3: to the table, a mixture of speed and power that 1487 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 3: we just don't typically see Canelo opponents. So you know 1488 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,280 Speaker 3: this ain't Caleb plan even. I mean, Jamal Charlo has 1489 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 3: a has a plus side to him that others don't. 1490 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,800 Speaker 3: I get what you're saying. It's all part of the 1491 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,439 Speaker 3: reason why at the end of the day, we can't 1492 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 3: hate on what Canelo is doing. But when you look 1493 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 3: at the fighters available to him in this era, and boy, 1494 01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 3: has he already stamped his Hall of Fame resume two 1495 01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:53,519 Speaker 3: or three times. If he never fights Benevitez meaning next year, 1496 01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 3: then we got issues all right, then that's telling you 1497 01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,799 Speaker 3: he's sort of going out of his way to avoid 1498 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 3: a contemporary in his weight class, you know, Mexican American. 1499 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 3: That's gonna bring that fan base and it's gonna bring 1500 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 3: that pressure to him. If we don't see that fight 1501 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 3: next year, Luke, you're gonna see that. You're gonna see 1502 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,439 Speaker 3: the the public rightfully, in the in the critics take 1503 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,720 Speaker 3: a turn on him, like we did at Floyd at times. 1504 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,680 Speaker 3: Let's be fair. Look looking back the My Donna two 1505 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,599 Speaker 3: fight series, Like the first one's a great fight, it 1506 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,639 Speaker 3: was close, but even both times Floyd chose My Donna, 1507 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 3: We're like, really, you're gonna wait out Manny another year again? 1508 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,559 Speaker 3: Like you know, so, I don't know, man, It's it's tough. 1509 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,800 Speaker 3: But Canelo's track record speaks for itself. And if you 1510 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,800 Speaker 3: don't know about Dmitri Beeval, look him up. 1511 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,160 Speaker 1: This does have potential. 1512 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,759 Speaker 3: This does have potential to be a slow, not overly 1513 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,400 Speaker 3: entertaining fight. But this is as tough of a challenge 1514 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 3: is Canelo confined right now? So I like that Dmitri 1515 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 3: Beval is getting this opportunity, And uh, Luke, how much 1516 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 3: do you think I mean if you're to Zone. You 1517 01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 3: gotta be happy. You know, you launched with the idea 1518 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 3: that you're going to be a disruptor. You paid I mean, Luke, 1519 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,479 Speaker 3: they paid Triple G one hundred million just just just 1520 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,280 Speaker 3: to put him in there a third time against Canelo, 1521 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 3: which hasn't happened yet. They also came out and said 1522 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 3: they're killing pay per view when they launched, and it 1523 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 3: was a big deal. Well, not only have they had 1524 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,679 Speaker 3: pay per view the last few Canelo fights on his own. 1525 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 3: The difference was if you already subscribed to the Zone, 1526 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:25,880 Speaker 3: you don't have to pay for the pay per view. 1527 01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 3: That is changing with this new Canelo deal. What is 1528 01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 3: it You're gonna have to pay eighty bucks on top 1529 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 3: of your bucks? 1530 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 1: No, no, no, So here's how it works. If you 1531 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 1: have no connection to his zone whatsoever, it'll be eighty 1532 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,840 Speaker 1: on pay per view. If you are a subscriber to 1533 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,360 Speaker 1: the Zone, it'll be sixty or fifty nine, seventy nine, 1534 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,519 Speaker 1: nine nine whatever sixty. So they'll they'll cut you basically 1535 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 1: one months off of the Zone's normal cost or something 1536 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,719 Speaker 1: like that, which to me is just fucking insane. If 1537 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,759 Speaker 1: folks don't remember they did these this full court Press 1538 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,240 Speaker 1: when they launched with Michael Buffer Canelo. Remember Canelo had 1539 01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:01,240 Speaker 1: that three hundred Morgan Tracy Morgan, and they were explicit. 1540 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,920 Speaker 1: And I had Oscar de la Hooya in studio because 1541 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,679 Speaker 1: he was part of that whole thing as well, saying 1542 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 1: the exact same thing. Pay per view is dead. Pay 1543 01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,000 Speaker 1: per view is dead, pay per view is dead. And 1544 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,360 Speaker 1: now they're in fully at least, I'll say fully, but 1545 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 1: they're in at least halfway the pay per view business. 1546 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,719 Speaker 1: It's not that I think that de Zone was wrong 1547 01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 1: to pivot to this if this is the best way 1548 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,960 Speaker 1: for them to make money, but it vastly undercuts their 1549 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,559 Speaker 1: initial pitch about what is possible in today's pay per 1550 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 1: view market. Says something different about paper view all together. Also, 1551 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 1: it should be noted Eddie heard who I Do like 1552 01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:32,960 Speaker 1: a lot was like Showtime will be out of the 1553 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,680 Speaker 1: business in a year, and now I think was in 1554 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 1: like what twenty eighteen something like that. Yeah, and here 1555 01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 1: they are four or five years later, and actually Showtime's 1556 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 1: doing just as well as they have ever. 1557 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,640 Speaker 3: So, I mean, look, price gouging. Price gouging is a 1558 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 3: survival tactic. It's also historically consistent we paid one hundred 1559 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 3: bucks for Mayweather Pakiao. God Thurman just fought Burios on 1560 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 3: Fox pay per view for seventy four to ninety five 1561 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,040 Speaker 3: for a fight, Luke, that probably should have been on showtime, 1562 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,000 Speaker 3: to be fair. But although you know, fun fight, I 1563 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:05,080 Speaker 3: enjoyed it. But I guess it's not surprising. But you know, 1564 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 3: to see de Oonne, whoever's running their Twitter account keep 1565 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 3: responding to all the fans that are ripping them by 1566 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,640 Speaker 3: saying no, no, Our original statement stands clear, but pay 1567 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,640 Speaker 3: per view is not the future of boxing, but for 1568 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,600 Speaker 3: select premium events like this, and I think you know, 1569 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 3: even Ryan Garcia's comeback fight, it's not going to be 1570 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,000 Speaker 3: a pay per view on his own in the States, 1571 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,280 Speaker 3: but it will be for Canada and other nations. So, Luke, 1572 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 3: it looks like they're trying to make back all that 1573 01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,960 Speaker 3: money they threw at everyone in the beginning. And you know, 1574 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 3: I guess it is what it is. 1575 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,679 Speaker 1: You know, that's it. That's it for the top five 1576 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 1: topics BC. We are done with him, so let's keep 1577 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,479 Speaker 1: the show moving if we can. Let's get right to 1578 01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:47,080 Speaker 1: dms from donks, where the donks get to ask us 1579 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:56,479 Speaker 1: some questionnes let's do that now, yhaw phuthographic all right, BC, 1580 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:58,720 Speaker 1: I think I've seen this. Some of these names are 1581 01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 1: repeats from Nate the Great lux after the bell to 1582 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,600 Speaker 1: r event. BC's question, more for you, is Musase in 1583 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,840 Speaker 1: the top three middleweights of all time? Okay, so hold on, 1584 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 1: let's take a break on this one. One would be 1585 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 1: Anderson yeahs fair two. I'm gonna put Autosnya. His record 1586 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:16,360 Speaker 1: at middleweight is better. 1587 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 3: Uh. 1588 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:22,799 Speaker 1: After that, though, it's a much harder conversation. Who goes next? 1589 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,640 Speaker 3: Yes? So again we did this exercise, I think just 1590 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,760 Speaker 3: UFC wise, you know, during the pandemic, and that was 1591 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,559 Speaker 3: the most difficult thing at that time. Anderson Silva number 1592 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,680 Speaker 3: one with a bullet. But then you're like, okay, wi, 1593 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 3: Evin's got a couple pretty damn good defenses there, rock 1594 01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 3: Hold's got a couple of pretty damn good elite wins, 1595 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,599 Speaker 3: you know, Bizzes being's around there with the total resume. 1596 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,720 Speaker 3: You know, Vitor Belford, although he split between middle and 1597 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,640 Speaker 3: light heavy and even heavyweight, had some moments there. But 1598 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,080 Speaker 3: if you want it, and obviously out of Sonya's rising, 1599 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,439 Speaker 3: Robert Whittaker's what I thought, Robert Whittakers just beat out 1600 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 3: of Sni. Nobody cares anymore that I think that, Luke, 1601 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,120 Speaker 3: But I'll keep saying it, right, yeah, if you want 1602 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 3: to put musas see as the third greatest, I and 1603 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,519 Speaker 3: I do agree with you that Attusani is starting to 1604 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 3: separate himself as I. You know, look a be rising 1605 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,160 Speaker 3: right there, Luke. Let's look at the resume. Can we 1606 01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,840 Speaker 3: call up the gay guard Musasi? Resume here? And also 1607 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,200 Speaker 3: before we do that, is there anybody we're missing? Because 1608 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,679 Speaker 3: you know somebody's gonna come back and say, how could 1609 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,640 Speaker 3: you guys forget the guy from Pride? 1610 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,599 Speaker 1: Uh? Well, you did have Dan Henderson as a pretty 1611 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 1: successful middleweight as well for a long time. 1612 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 3: But the yeast he also split time between so many 1613 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 3: weight divisions. 1614 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 1: Right yeah, but he captured he was he was the 1615 01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:37,160 Speaker 1: first real champ champ in all of MMA out of Pride. 1616 01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,519 Speaker 1: When he beat Vanderley, he became the champ champ there. So, 1617 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:40,960 Speaker 1: so are you. 1618 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,439 Speaker 3: Saying it could be it could be Dan Hendo versus 1619 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,960 Speaker 3: Musasi right now in this, in this straight up debate. 1620 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying one and two are pretty clear. After that, 1621 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,280 Speaker 1: we would need to establish some criteria about what constitutes 1622 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:57,360 Speaker 1: because obviously Musasi beat Wideman, but he doesn't have any 1623 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,680 Speaker 1: Musasi does any UFC title fights. He never fought for 1624 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 1: a title, so we're kind of short. And he did 1625 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 1: have a Strikeforce title which he lost to King Mo, 1626 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:05,720 Speaker 1: but that was. 1627 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,400 Speaker 3: It in a different division, yeah. 1628 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,679 Speaker 1: Division, Right, So there's just a lot of like, dude, 1629 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:14,000 Speaker 1: Mustasi has a ton of accolades, but the resumes are 1630 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 1: so different, they're they're a little hard. I would say 1631 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:17,599 Speaker 1: he's in the running. He's in the runner. 1632 01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,200 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, yeah, he subbed out Mark Hunt 1633 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 3: at heavyweight, right, you know, he did be good. He 1634 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,040 Speaker 3: did be Jock Array for the Dream title, and then 1635 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 3: I think he also got Jockaray again, right, and yeah, 1636 01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:27,800 Speaker 3: he stopped. 1637 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 1: Him the first time with that upkick that was just 1638 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,519 Speaker 1: fucking insane, you know. So he's done good work, so 1639 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:33,480 Speaker 1: he's probably. 1640 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 3: Let me tell you, let me tell you some some 1641 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:41,720 Speaker 3: middleweight wins for Gay Guard. You ready you like this game? Right? 1642 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 1: Okay? 1643 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 3: Does the Hector Lombard win for the Pride Welterweight Grand Prix? 1644 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:47,240 Speaker 3: Does that count as a middleweight win? 1645 01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 1: If it's Pride and it's welterweight, that means it's middleweight. 1646 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,160 Speaker 1: They called their middleweight division welterweight. 1647 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 3: Okay, uh, he subbed out Melvin man hoof. He's got 1648 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,880 Speaker 3: two middleweight wins over Jockaray, both by pretty good. He's 1649 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 3: he's uh. Then he came back down the middle again, 1650 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,559 Speaker 3: and we've got what do we got here? 1651 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 1: Scintillating for you to relay this? 1652 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark Munio's stops Dan Hendo in twenty fifteen. That 1653 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 3: doesn't suck. Luke Okay, stops Thiago Santos, stops Old Belfort, 1654 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,679 Speaker 3: stops your eye, Hall stops Wideman. 1655 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,839 Speaker 1: Pretty good, that's a that's a sick. 1656 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,679 Speaker 3: Run stops Carvall, Rafield, cavl Halfield, Carvallo or Rafae, whatever 1657 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 3: one you want to call him. Luke hafa yo, sorry, Petro, 1658 01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 3: Roy McDonald moving up, Edges Leoto Machidah stops Douglas Lima 1659 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:44,440 Speaker 3: moving up. Compare that to Dan Henderson at middleweight. 1660 01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,840 Speaker 1: For me, Luke okay. So if we're gonna look at 1661 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,479 Speaker 1: Dan Henderson's resume, let's pull that up real quickly. Now 1662 01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,479 Speaker 1: he's gonna have a bunch of losses. Like it's not 1663 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,840 Speaker 1: like it's the perfect resume. But so here's what we 1664 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,479 Speaker 1: have early on, so you know, he's got wins over 1665 01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,759 Speaker 1: Nogera Sobral, which folks don't realize is a extremely good fighter, 1666 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,360 Speaker 1: Henzo Graziakira, Shoji Marilla Ninjaho. That's the brother of Shogun 1667 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,479 Speaker 1: Marilla Bustamante, a previous UFC champion. He stopped him via 1668 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,519 Speaker 1: Tko by the way, Yuki Kondo, a legend gon. He 1669 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:17,360 Speaker 1: beat Bustamante again, Masaki again, Vitor belfor Vanderli Silva, Hussamor Palharas, 1670 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:22,600 Speaker 1: Rish Franklin, Michael Bisping, Hanato Sibral again, Feijo Fador, Showgun, 1671 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 1: Shogun again, Tim Bouch and then Hector Lombard. I don't know, dude, 1672 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,439 Speaker 1: that's a pretty fucking good resume. 1673 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,839 Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, that's pretty damn good with a pretty good resume. 1674 01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,720 Speaker 3: Would you say that that both of those guys are 1675 01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 3: firmly ahead of Widman and rock Hold? Would you say that, Luke? 1676 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably would. I probably would. 1677 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you also have to take into consideration that 1678 01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 3: Wideman didn't beat Anderson Silva twice. Silva lost both times. 1679 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,320 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, we're doing that all right? Uh from 1680 01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,720 Speaker 1: at Milo Underscore Kodiak. 1681 01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 3: I mean the truth hurts Luke. 1682 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,519 Speaker 1: Now in the hell did the judges score that fight 1683 01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,640 Speaker 1: for armand Petrosian? And how far back would you have 1684 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,280 Speaker 1: to go to find the worst robbery in the UFC. 1685 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,880 Speaker 1: CBC thought this was a bad scoring call, But I 1686 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:09,760 Speaker 1: didn't think it was a robbery, did you? 1687 01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,960 Speaker 3: No? I mean, do you think the fight two fights later, 1688 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:19,120 Speaker 3: the Priscilla Cachiuera against giong Kim that that produced a 1689 01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 3: great celebration, But that was just as equally questionable. I 1690 01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,519 Speaker 3: don't know about robbery for either, Luke. So he's talking 1691 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,519 Speaker 3: about armand Petrosian against Gregory Rodriguez, which was a hell 1692 01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:33,000 Speaker 3: of a fight, split decision. I don't remember feeling robbery coming. 1693 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,920 Speaker 1: Out of that. No, I don't either. I thought I 1694 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 1: it was a wild fight too. It was not a 1695 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:42,879 Speaker 1: great call, but hardly, like hardly some kind of evidence 1696 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:46,520 Speaker 1: of the judges being either deeply incompetent or otherwise corrupted. 1697 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,240 Speaker 1: Just not a great call. I see that. That to me 1698 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,480 Speaker 1: is a big difference than what happened to Catererall. 1699 01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,519 Speaker 3: What is on what do you think is on the 1700 01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 3: short list for worst UFC elite decisions? 1701 01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a great call. 1702 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 3: I mean there's always ones that could go either way. 1703 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 3: But is there like a straight up you know, like boxing, 1704 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:09,840 Speaker 3: I could fill you know, pages of him. 1705 01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, straight up. I don't know what I would say. 1706 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,280 Speaker 1: Is I still think Johnny Hendricks beat GSP That one 1707 01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:20,000 Speaker 1: is a little I agree with that. I'd have to 1708 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 1: go back and look there there, there, there are. There 1709 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 1: are plenty of controversial and disputed ones, but. 1710 01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,600 Speaker 3: Like, but even that's not a right like there. 1711 01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:28,920 Speaker 1: I can't think of one off the top of my 1712 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,720 Speaker 1: head where it was like c J Ross level. We 1713 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,280 Speaker 1: were like, I'm sorry, what the fuck was the score? 1714 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,720 Speaker 1: You know, I don't have to go look, I don't 1715 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:40,519 Speaker 1: know all right at Jack Underscore Matt Cool opening. Odds 1716 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,280 Speaker 1: BC have Islam as a minus four hundred favorite against 1717 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,439 Speaker 1: Ola Air. According to a postm Aaron Broster, I saw it. 1718 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 1: I got the same email from the odds makers. It's 1719 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,880 Speaker 1: well that I'm not saying it's accurate affair, but well 1720 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,519 Speaker 1: it is accurate. Fair is a different question, BC. Are 1721 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,280 Speaker 1: the odds justified? Are the odds justified? Dude? 1722 01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:00,679 Speaker 3: That's aggressive, but it's super aggressive. You know it's hard 1723 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,000 Speaker 3: because you know we've counted. I mean, Charles Olivera has 1724 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,920 Speaker 3: been counted out, right every I mean, so wait, is 1725 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 3: that against wait so I'm sorry say that again. Is 1726 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 3: that against Olivera? Is against the whoever the winner is. 1727 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 3: So the problem here is that we've counted out Olivera 1728 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 3: or I have, you know, at a bunch of these 1729 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:20,960 Speaker 3: step ups, and what does he do? He just keeps 1730 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,880 Speaker 3: coming out and finishing people in record numbers. But Luke, 1731 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,920 Speaker 3: he's accruing a lot of damage to do that, and 1732 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,800 Speaker 3: he's got to go through this warhorse named Justin Gaichee. 1733 01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:35,840 Speaker 3: And right now, Isla Mahchev has such a stupid amount 1734 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 3: of money in the bank from our eye test, although 1735 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,840 Speaker 3: not against you know, equal level of competition, but just 1736 01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,439 Speaker 3: of he's so fricking dominant that you're like, yeah, I 1737 01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 3: could see that happening against anyone. I'm I'm a little surprised. 1738 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,439 Speaker 3: I would have gone more in the direction of like 1739 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:56,519 Speaker 3: minus two fifty, Luke, and been like still aggressive, But 1740 01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,439 Speaker 3: I get it to me, minus four hundred is like 1741 01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,880 Speaker 3: maybe you know, cause Vegas looked. They don't they don't 1742 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:05,800 Speaker 3: they I mean, they get it wrong here and there, 1743 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,400 Speaker 3: they don't massively get it wrong a lot, right, you know, 1744 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:09,120 Speaker 3: I mean. 1745 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 1: It's the old line. It's the opening line, which, by 1746 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,040 Speaker 1: the way, the fight may not happen because Olivera could lose, 1747 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 1: but let's say he wins, I expect that line to shift. 1748 01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,360 Speaker 1: Now how much hard to say. He would still probably 1749 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,720 Speaker 1: be a minus three hundred favorite, which I would still 1750 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:24,960 Speaker 1: consider high. The question you have to ask yourself is 1751 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,920 Speaker 1: do you think that him being the favorite at all 1752 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,639 Speaker 1: is misplaced? I don't know that I think it's all 1753 01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,320 Speaker 1: that misplaced, but I grant you're still working with some 1754 01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,759 Speaker 1: unknown so it's a little bit pushy. 1755 01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,519 Speaker 3: Vegas is usually up on the the hotter fighter of 1756 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,160 Speaker 3: the moment, the younger fighter of the moment, the you 1757 01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,360 Speaker 3: know what I mean, the guy that we haven't seen solved, 1758 01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,760 Speaker 3: and in that regard, like, look, would you agree this 1759 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 3: Charles Olivera run which is spec freaking tacular. It's going 1760 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,679 Speaker 3: to end spectacularly sooner than later. I mean, he's he's 1761 01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 3: all in in every situation to spectacular win these fights. 1762 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:02,599 Speaker 3: You can't keep that up, dude. 1763 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:04,720 Speaker 1: Well, and also, dude, this is the other part, like 1764 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:09,200 Speaker 1: holding a UFC title for very long is really difficult. 1765 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,040 Speaker 1: Like you've seen a couple of examples of it if 1766 01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,960 Speaker 1: you Obviously we have some elite champions who've done incredible things, 1767 01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,720 Speaker 1: but for most people who touch that title, it's not 1768 01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,439 Speaker 1: there a whole long because you have not just with 1769 01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,759 Speaker 1: monsters constantly the rare. 1770 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,680 Speaker 3: People who have done it. And I agree with you that, 1771 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,439 Speaker 3: like we don't talk about enough how insane whether it's GSP, 1772 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,280 Speaker 3: John Jones, Anders and Silva Manda Newness, those runs they 1773 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,720 Speaker 3: went on at the top with the title, but Luke, 1774 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,160 Speaker 3: a lot of those they're dominating, they're not taking much 1775 01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 3: in return. Charles Lavera is going in there and risking 1776 01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,240 Speaker 3: it all and coming out on top and in highlight, 1777 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 3: real ways after walking through hell. That's gonna be hard 1778 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,840 Speaker 3: to keep up. Can you do it against kache He 1779 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,200 Speaker 3: certainly can. Can he end up on his back for 1780 01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,560 Speaker 3: five rounds? Could are we look at is is Olivera 1781 01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:01,680 Speaker 3: versus versus Uh? It's have the potential to look like 1782 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,840 Speaker 3: Usman Woodley did where we were just like okay, I 1783 01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,320 Speaker 3: could see Usman winning, but I couldn't see him just 1784 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,880 Speaker 3: just dropping a douce on Tyron Woodley like he did. 1785 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 3: That's what these odds are telling us. It's telling us 1786 01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,679 Speaker 3: that Vegas is looking at this guy and saying he's 1787 01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,800 Speaker 3: coming and he's not going anywhere for a long freaking time. 1788 01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,320 Speaker 1: That and they want betting, They want betting on him. 1789 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,040 Speaker 1: So there's that as well. It's why he's as high 1790 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,040 Speaker 1: as he is. But you're right, minus four hundred is 1791 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:29,639 Speaker 1: like shockingly high. It's high to a degree where you're like, okay, 1792 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:33,760 Speaker 1: that's significant. But dude, to the point you raised at 1793 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:35,800 Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, he might just be that 1794 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,760 Speaker 1: dude too, He might just be that guy. 1795 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,040 Speaker 3: Did you see that funny little exchange between Islam and 1796 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,599 Speaker 3: Kamara Usman on the desk. Gusman was course sitting with 1797 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,920 Speaker 3: Karon Bryant and Rashad Evans for the ESPN coverage, and 1798 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,639 Speaker 3: they were talking about Abb and you know how he's 1799 01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,280 Speaker 3: buff now he looks like he could make two o 1800 01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:55,320 Speaker 3: five or heavyweight, and Islam they were joking this, I'm like, oh, Camorrow, 1801 01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,400 Speaker 3: you know, if a Beab does come back, you know 1802 01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,160 Speaker 3: he's gonna move up to welterweight and and he's not 1803 01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:01,720 Speaker 3: going to be a lightweight anymore. And you know, he 1804 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,280 Speaker 3: was almost like Islam's way of saying, you know, if 1805 01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,400 Speaker 3: my brother ever did decide to come back, he'd be 1806 01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,760 Speaker 3: taking your belt from you. You know, it was it was, 1807 01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,400 Speaker 3: it was, It was funny, Luke. I mean you would 1808 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,840 Speaker 3: you ever favor Let's okay, let's say to much, Bib tell. 1809 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,040 Speaker 1: You can we move the show along? 1810 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,080 Speaker 3: Well? Luke? Do you like doing a great show or 1811 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:20,599 Speaker 3: do you just like getting to the finish line? That's 1812 01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:21,959 Speaker 3: really what I got to ask you, because. 1813 01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,439 Speaker 1: I think doing a great show is one where you 1814 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,360 Speaker 1: get to the finish line efficiently. 1815 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,840 Speaker 3: I mean, short of your bowels exploding. Do you have 1816 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:28,759 Speaker 3: another job. 1817 01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:30,920 Speaker 1: Today that don't I don't know, I don't. 1818 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,160 Speaker 3: Okay, I want to ask you a question. If Abib 1819 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,200 Speaker 3: got in sick shape and announced he was coming back 1820 01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,599 Speaker 3: next year and he was challenging Kamorrow Usman for the title, 1821 01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,519 Speaker 3: could you talk yourself and him into winning that at all? 1822 01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,679 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, I don't know if it would be likely, 1823 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:51,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah I could. I could. I could imagine that. 1824 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,040 Speaker 3: It's all I wanted to do, Luke. Okay, I've made 1825 01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:54,320 Speaker 3: a lot, I've had a lot of you know, I've 1826 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,160 Speaker 3: committed a lot of sins in this show as your 1827 01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,120 Speaker 3: co host. But I needed to get that one out. 1828 01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:01,280 Speaker 1: Okay, all right? At Tyler Curtis one BC question directly 1829 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,559 Speaker 1: for you, a hardcore boxing fan. Julius and Dongo won 1830 01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:06,719 Speaker 1: this weekend on the local circuit, and it got me thinking, 1831 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,800 Speaker 1: is he the worst unified champ ever? He literally came 1832 01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,040 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, had two OK wins to win two 1833 01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,799 Speaker 1: titles before losing the Crawford and pro Gray and falling 1834 01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,720 Speaker 1: back into obscurity. Five people who are watching care about this, But. 1835 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I won't go I won't be labor. But yes, 1836 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,559 Speaker 3: he goes down as how in the damn hell did 1837 01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,680 Speaker 3: that guy ever win two titles in a division? And 1838 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,720 Speaker 3: and it almost takes away from what Terrence Crawford did 1839 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:32,040 Speaker 3: becoming the first four belt undisputed one to forty champion 1840 01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,800 Speaker 3: that now Josh Taylor is, of course, and he knocked 1841 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,400 Speaker 3: out in Dongo easy with like a second round body 1842 01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,280 Speaker 3: shot Luke and Dongo not only has lost a lot 1843 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,960 Speaker 3: since then, he just lost in like Tanzania against somebody 1844 01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,439 Speaker 3: you never heard of. It was a hen and Burrow 1845 01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,880 Speaker 3: like fall off the side of the earth for Indongo, 1846 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,600 Speaker 3: only he was never hen and Barrow to begin with. 1847 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,360 Speaker 3: He upset washed Ricky Burns, and he beats some other 1848 01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,759 Speaker 3: dude you never heard of for his original title. Yeah, 1849 01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,080 Speaker 3: he's gonna go down in history as Oh that guy 1850 01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,280 Speaker 3: had a cup of coffee. The big moment I mean 1851 01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,759 Speaker 3: is Buster Douglas also in this conversation, maybe, but even probably, 1852 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,000 Speaker 3: you know, the best of Buster Douglas was way better 1853 01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,720 Speaker 3: than the best of Julius and Dongo. So he's a 1854 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,040 Speaker 3: historical footnote, Luke. 1855 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,240 Speaker 1: All right, last, but not least, keV j Math. How 1856 01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,880 Speaker 1: happy were Chuck's beers on the pregame preview? Pretty happy? 1857 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,920 Speaker 1: He had a beer called I don't know how to 1858 01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,439 Speaker 1: pronounce it correctly, Highli or jili, the old game with 1859 01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:24,400 Speaker 1: the hooks that people used to. 1860 01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,400 Speaker 3: Play well Highli, Luke, it's from that of betting dog tracks. 1861 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,320 Speaker 3: It's from that well respected brewery out of Florida that 1862 01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:31,640 Speaker 3: I can't think of at the moment. And people are 1863 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,720 Speaker 3: gonna kill me, but yeah, you know, that's a good 1864 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,759 Speaker 3: ass Ipa. It's not, you know, insanely through the roof hoppy. 1865 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,160 Speaker 3: But Chuck, Chuck's a good beer drinker, Luke. He's who 1866 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 3: he's who I used to be before my body failed me. 1867 01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,240 Speaker 3: And also he can handle his things, you know, way 1868 01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,519 Speaker 3: way way more conservatively than you and I can. 1869 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,760 Speaker 1: Life hasn't whipped his ass in the same way that 1870 01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,519 Speaker 1: it has whipped ours, so he is still able to 1871 01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,160 Speaker 1: tolerate beers like a normal human being. And you and I, 1872 01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,240 Speaker 1: on the other hand, we are a little little tiny chills. 1873 01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,519 Speaker 3: I'm a little turned off. Maybe it's because I do 1874 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,760 Speaker 3: have a history with Highlight. Connecticut had three frontons when 1875 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,240 Speaker 3: I was a kid, including one Milford. Highlight was one 1876 01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,200 Speaker 3: of the last in the country, not in Florida, in 1877 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,200 Speaker 3: the world even to be running. And I used to 1878 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,200 Speaker 3: sneak bear into there and as a commuter student in 1879 01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,200 Speaker 3: college and yell at the and bet all my you 1880 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,080 Speaker 3: know McDonald's stop and chop salary on Highlight like a 1881 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:25,679 Speaker 3: decrepit loser. You are such a pronunciation head, especially when 1882 01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,640 Speaker 3: as it pertains to other languages and stuff. For you 1883 01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:30,599 Speaker 3: to look at that and go j la. 1884 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,800 Speaker 1: No I said highlight or Jili because someone else told me. 1885 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,040 Speaker 1: After I said it was highly they called they corrected 1886 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,760 Speaker 1: me and told me it was Gili. Is that wrong? 1887 01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 3: Not in this country. It's not jili. And that's that's 1888 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 3: Cigar City Brewing that puts that out. You know, very 1889 01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,320 Speaker 3: good beer there. But look, you never go into high 1890 01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:47,760 Speaker 3: live there was you never had a chance, right. 1891 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,960 Speaker 1: No, dude, I used to go with my dad, but 1892 01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't I was a kid because dude, I don't 1893 01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:53,760 Speaker 1: even know if it's still around. But when I was 1894 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,880 Speaker 1: a kid, you could definitely go to like places to 1895 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,000 Speaker 1: watch and bet on it for sure, and my dad 1896 01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,479 Speaker 1: and his infinite wisdom would take me to those. 1897 01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,240 Speaker 3: There's one left. There's one left in South Florida. It's 1898 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,280 Speaker 3: out of casino because the rule is there you have 1899 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,160 Speaker 3: to have something to bet on live in order to 1900 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,439 Speaker 3: have all of those other things. So instead of a 1901 01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:15,040 Speaker 3: dog track, they have the highlight. And some of the players, Luke, 1902 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,080 Speaker 3: that that you know you talk about me talking to 1903 01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,599 Speaker 3: four people right now. Some of the players like Tevin 1904 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,880 Speaker 3: who used to light it up at Milford High Lie 1905 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,719 Speaker 3: in the nineties are still playing in South Florida today 1906 01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,200 Speaker 3: as pros. Luke, look that sports rigged his shit, and 1907 01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,519 Speaker 3: I'll go to my grave saying it, Okay, dude, thank you. 1908 01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,160 Speaker 1: That's what makes it exciting. That and the giant little 1909 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:34,800 Speaker 1: hooks they used to sling the ball at the wall. 1910 01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,760 Speaker 3: I love, yeah, the safe stuff. I love that, Like 1911 01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,320 Speaker 3: there'll be this important game point and like you got 1912 01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:41,920 Speaker 3: all your money on it. And then one of the 1913 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,920 Speaker 3: guys who's been dominating all day just like haphazardly drops 1914 01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,400 Speaker 3: the ball. You're like, yeah, get out of here. Bro okay, 1915 01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,080 Speaker 3: get out of here with that bullshit. 1916 01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,320 Speaker 1: All right, That is it for the top five, That 1917 01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,800 Speaker 1: is it for DMS with donks. You see, it's time 1918 01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,160 Speaker 1: for your feces. 1919 01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. We scour the globe 1920 01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:01,080 Speaker 3: for all that that stuff you love watching. 1921 01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:03,559 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I used to like when they 1922 01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,200 Speaker 1: first introduced the idea to me. I remember I got 1923 01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,040 Speaker 1: a call from our producer from Showtime. He was like, 1924 01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:08,960 Speaker 1: so BC wants to do blah blahlah blah blah. I 1925 01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,840 Speaker 1: remember thinking to myself, all right, let's try it. I mean, 1926 01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta let BC do his thing, So 1927 01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:13,840 Speaker 1: let's just. 1928 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,880 Speaker 3: Don't soft don't soft show it. I texted you my 1929 01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:20,200 Speaker 3: idea and you were like, absolutely not. Maybe like once 1930 01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,639 Speaker 3: a month or once in a while, but like viral 1931 01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:24,639 Speaker 3: video segment. Absolutely not, Luke. 1932 01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:26,280 Speaker 1: Because I didn't understand what the hell you were trying 1933 01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:27,880 Speaker 1: to do. And then when I got a sense of it, 1934 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, that makes much more sense now, BC, 1935 01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,880 Speaker 1: this is the point trying to make. I actively look 1936 01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:34,679 Speaker 1: forward to these. I cannot wait to see what you've 1937 01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:35,360 Speaker 1: pulled up today. 1938 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,000 Speaker 3: Thank you. Jeffney Pierre on the ones and twos has 1939 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,920 Speaker 3: put all this shit together. Here it is. Have you 1940 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:41,519 Speaker 3: seen it or not? Let's go to it. 1941 01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,080 Speaker 1: As I die from inhaling. 1942 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:54,599 Speaker 3: All right, Luke, Well do you need to vape anymore 1943 01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,519 Speaker 3: before we continue? 1944 01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,599 Speaker 1: I don't need your permission to do this in my office. Yeah. 1945 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolute dirtball, Luke. YOUFC fight night in Vegas. Did 1946 01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,240 Speaker 3: you see Bobby Green before the biggest fight of his 1947 01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,679 Speaker 3: life cleaning out the pipes at the prep point? 1948 01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,240 Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, Now that he's putting he's not cleaning the 1949 01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,920 Speaker 1: pipes out, He's putting a vasoline in the inside of 1950 01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:14,360 Speaker 1: his nose. 1951 01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,280 Speaker 3: Oh are you kidding me? I completely thought he was 1952 01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,599 Speaker 3: picking a winner. Oh wow, Okay, he's not. 1953 01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,000 Speaker 1: The cutman is not putting his finger in the nose. 1954 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:27,080 Speaker 1: So he offers up the petroleum whatever the hell it is, 1955 01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,080 Speaker 1: the vasoline, and then he puts it in. Some people 1956 01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,400 Speaker 1: think it makes him breathe better. It's just the preference thing. 1957 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,400 Speaker 3: Okay, Luke, I was wrong. I saw this video, and 1958 01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, look at him, dude, He's like, I ain't 1959 01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:39,040 Speaker 3: going in that cage with a bougar sticking halfway out. 1960 01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,880 Speaker 3: So I respected his game on that, Luke Okay, Yeah, 1961 01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,719 Speaker 3: all right, let's keep it going. Priscilla Cachauera, as I mentioned, 1962 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:51,320 Speaker 3: insanely emotional as she gets purple belted after a wild 1963 01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:55,759 Speaker 3: as shit fight a somewhat questionable decision. Luke, I only 1964 01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:59,240 Speaker 3: knew this about her, that she got the shit kicked 1965 01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:01,560 Speaker 3: out of her in her day view against Valentina Chefchenko. 1966 01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,280 Speaker 3: And remember that ref tried to allow her to be 1967 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:08,720 Speaker 3: a warsak. Yes, I had no idea that just a 1968 01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,080 Speaker 3: few years back she was addicted to drugs and was 1969 01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,599 Speaker 3: down on her luck. I have to say the emotion 1970 01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,880 Speaker 3: she showed and pulling this off, whether she you know, 1971 01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:20,040 Speaker 3: deserved the win or not, between her screaming when they 1972 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,720 Speaker 3: announced her name to this, I was touched by it, 1973 01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 3: Luke Okay. 1974 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of fans upset by it because 1975 01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,599 Speaker 1: they you know, look at her face. It's a mess 1976 01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,240 Speaker 1: and the other person probably had a better case for winning. 1977 01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,160 Speaker 1: But you know, these fighters go through so much. I 1978 01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,840 Speaker 1: try not to release their happiness. 1979 01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:39,599 Speaker 3: I mean, should we police the fact that she tried 1980 01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,320 Speaker 3: to take out Gillian Robertson's eyeball. 1981 01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:45,479 Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, she could have been bounced 1982 01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,519 Speaker 1: from the UFC for that. I mean that washigious. You know. 1983 01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,719 Speaker 3: Either way, she had her moment, Luke, and I felt something. Okay, 1984 01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,719 Speaker 3: thank you, Let's keep it going here, Luke, China's wrong. 1985 01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,400 Speaker 3: Z you the first UFC fighter to compete after being 1986 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,840 Speaker 3: born in the two thousands, good lord, showing off some 1987 01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:08,200 Speaker 3: plumber crack before before getting babo choked by uh bahamones. 1988 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,200 Speaker 3: Let their rhythm take you over here. 1989 01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:11,000 Speaker 1: What choke was it? 1990 01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,960 Speaker 3: Babo bobo bobo choke? 1991 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a famous choke, the babo choke? 1992 01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:18,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, real famous. 1993 01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, you mean brabo choke. 1994 01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,320 Speaker 3: It's it was Wikipedia had it. Let me let me 1995 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:24,880 Speaker 3: let me check. 1996 01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,679 Speaker 1: Actually, I would actually argue it's not a Bravo choke either. 1997 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,400 Speaker 1: It's actually a modified breadcutter, which is a long explanation. 1998 01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:31,840 Speaker 1: I had a tweet out about it with the video. 1999 01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:33,720 Speaker 1: Long story. Shorts have nothing to do with it. I 2000 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,240 Speaker 1: just want to point out I send BC photos of 2001 01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:40,680 Speaker 1: people getting like Japanese style like body suits for tattoos, 2002 01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:42,639 Speaker 1: and he's like, I don't want to see man ass, 2003 01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,439 Speaker 1: And then here he is making a point to show 2004 01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:46,960 Speaker 1: the world man ass. 2005 01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,320 Speaker 3: Well, sorry he was a brabo choke. Sorry I thought 2006 01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:51,800 Speaker 3: it was like a bobo choke. Look do you think 2007 01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:54,160 Speaker 3: I care about that shit? No? Okay, just look at that. 2008 01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:56,760 Speaker 3: Look at Gap. GAP's like, hey, I'll just leave that 2009 01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:00,400 Speaker 3: ass up there while we continue this discussion. Okay, Uh, 2010 01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:01,120 Speaker 3: you're gonna lo. 2011 01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,080 Speaker 1: The new logo should not be the fist and the sun, 2012 01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,000 Speaker 1: just be two butt cheeks on a hairy ass. 2013 01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:12,240 Speaker 3: For Luke more Armine Sarukian pro Armenia takes coming on 2014 01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,160 Speaker 3: extra credit. But look at what he did? Did Joel Alpers, 2015 01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,839 Speaker 3: I don't want your analysis. Is this the worst Crimson 2016 01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:19,760 Speaker 3: mask you've seen a long ass time, Luke? 2017 01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is up there with this is Penn versus Stevenson. 2018 01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,600 Speaker 1: Bad a different situation because Penn was choking from the 2019 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,200 Speaker 1: back and then forcing the pressure to shoot a geyser 2020 01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:33,160 Speaker 1: out of the forehead of Joe Stevenson. But uh, this 2021 01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:36,280 Speaker 1: is a crime scene, BC. This is a fucking crime scene. Yeah. 2022 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,960 Speaker 3: This was Carrie van Eric against Jerry the King Lawler 2023 01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,840 Speaker 3: at Super Clash three for those that know, Wow, wow, 2024 01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,040 Speaker 3: that's a deep cas Hey. Let's go to Belatoor two 2025 01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:47,479 Speaker 3: seven to five in Dublin. Connor McGregor Luke, he was 2026 01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,639 Speaker 3: there and he didn't fight Mark Godnard this time. 2027 01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:50,759 Speaker 1: Take it seems sober. 2028 01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:53,439 Speaker 3: Taking in the sights. What do you think of the 2029 01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:58,000 Speaker 3: all Gray McGregor fast workout outfit he's got going on. 2030 01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:02,080 Speaker 1: Listen, he is not the worst dressed person at an 2031 01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,320 Speaker 1: MMA fight. Let me explain that to you right now. Okay, 2032 01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:05,120 Speaker 1: just put it that way. 2033 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:07,680 Speaker 3: He did go in the cage afterwards, by the way, 2034 01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,000 Speaker 3: to celebrate, but not in the. 2035 01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,080 Speaker 1: Way of He was on his best behavior and Shousta 2036 01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:14,920 Speaker 1: shan Sheen over at severe MMA he got McGregor interview Cogregor. 2037 01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,519 Speaker 1: McGregor told him he was looking at mate he could 2038 01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:21,439 Speaker 1: start like light sparring end of April and so was 2039 01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:24,839 Speaker 1: looking for like a July ish come back to the octagons. 2040 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:26,479 Speaker 1: So shoust de shan Sheen forgetting that well. 2041 01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,400 Speaker 3: He was there to cheer on his SPG teammates, including 2042 01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:32,200 Speaker 3: shaneid Kavanaugh who will get into later. But Luky he 2043 01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:36,519 Speaker 3: joined John Cavanaugh no relation uh in helping carry her 2044 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:40,240 Speaker 3: out after such an insane performance. And then also if 2045 01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,720 Speaker 3: we advanced to the next slide, McGregor cheasing it up 2046 01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:47,479 Speaker 3: with one Scott Koker. Luke, what do you think Dana 2047 01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:48,439 Speaker 3: thought when he looked at this. 2048 01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:53,439 Speaker 1: Probably hates that ship, probably drives him fucking crazy. But uh, listen, 2049 01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:57,120 Speaker 1: he's a VIP, he's a guest. You know, Bellatore got 2050 01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:58,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a rub out of it. It's 2051 01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:00,400 Speaker 1: not the end of the world. I mean, you know, 2052 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:01,759 Speaker 1: tour falls. 2053 01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,479 Speaker 3: Connor McGregor will have at least one fight under the 2054 01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:05,760 Speaker 3: Bellator MMA band. 2055 01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:13,640 Speaker 1: Oh oh wow, that is a funny question. Wow, I'll say. 2056 01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:15,160 Speaker 3: No. 2057 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:17,040 Speaker 1: I'll say no, but I tell you what that's not. 2058 01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:18,240 Speaker 1: That's an interesting question. 2059 01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:25,040 Speaker 3: Actually, dude, here's the deal. Okay, that crowd on Friday insane, insane, 2060 01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:27,679 Speaker 3: And I know that I'm not telling Scott Cooker anything 2061 01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:29,599 Speaker 3: new because he goes to Europe a lot and he's 2062 01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,320 Speaker 3: been finding these places where they are well, they are 2063 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,080 Speaker 3: as well received there, and I get it local fighters 2064 01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:40,800 Speaker 3: on the crowd, big fight culture. But Bellatour's like, I mean, 2065 01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,640 Speaker 3: it's like the super Bowl there. So would you be 2066 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,240 Speaker 3: upset business wise if they're like, you know what, Thackerville Oklahoma. 2067 01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:51,240 Speaker 3: We had a good run, but we're pretty much gonna 2068 01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,519 Speaker 3: operate full time out of Dublin if I can get 2069 01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:55,599 Speaker 3: that crowd every show, Luke, I'm staying there. 2070 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,920 Speaker 1: If I'm Coke, No, Yeah, Thackerville is the place that 2071 01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:04,880 Speaker 1: time forgot. Dublin is a wonderful, amazing city full of 2072 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:09,120 Speaker 1: wonderful fight fans. If they switched Dublin for Thackerville, or 2073 01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,800 Speaker 1: I should say the yeah, Dublin fourth Thackerville, that'd be 2074 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:13,280 Speaker 1: that'd be an upgrade. 2075 01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:16,760 Speaker 3: I mean, but could you see Belator making this a 2076 01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,720 Speaker 3: more permanent stop, you know, three four times a year, 2077 01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,040 Speaker 3: making it the new Houston for the UFC. 2078 01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,360 Speaker 1: I'll say, I'm gonna say this, They're going to go 2079 01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,439 Speaker 1: there as often as they can. I'll put it that way, 2080 01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:30,120 Speaker 1: as often as they can, Luke. 2081 01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,720 Speaker 3: Joe Rogan back on the interwebs hyping up the new 2082 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:36,640 Speaker 3: Tesla cyber truck. I can't talk, Luke. What do you 2083 01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:37,679 Speaker 3: think of this machine? 2084 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I know there have been some design specialists 2085 01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,000 Speaker 1: who have said that there's a certain amount of sophisticated 2086 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:48,439 Speaker 1: wisdom and sort of a paradigm changing design elements. This 2087 01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,400 Speaker 1: to me, it looks like a fucking idiotic piece of 2088 01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:52,040 Speaker 1: shit truck. 2089 01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:53,880 Speaker 3: Ah take that, Joe. 2090 01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:58,400 Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing. I like trucks. I like electric 2091 01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:03,760 Speaker 1: vehicles like Lit's. If this results in by itself not 2092 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,360 Speaker 1: being the thing that is interesting, but sets in motion 2093 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,960 Speaker 1: new designs, new ways to think about vehicles, then that 2094 01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:11,960 Speaker 1: would be great. But like, what do I think of 2095 01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:13,960 Speaker 1: this design? I think it looks like something a fucking 2096 01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:18,000 Speaker 1: third grader drew an autocab. It looks it looks idiotic. 2097 01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,240 Speaker 3: I may or may not be directly related to somebody 2098 01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:24,600 Speaker 3: Luke who built a bunker in their backyard ahead of 2099 01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:26,720 Speaker 3: Y two K thinking the world would shut down, and 2100 01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,240 Speaker 3: bought a tank. This looks like the type of vehicle 2101 01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:33,040 Speaker 3: that like Uncle mad Max would be driving, right yeah. 2102 01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And also the other part too, is like 2103 01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:37,200 Speaker 1: people are always like in awe of Humby's military humbies. 2104 01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:38,560 Speaker 1: Let me explain to you those things are pieces of 2105 01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,120 Speaker 1: shit too. They're not that money. They're not you can 2106 01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,080 Speaker 1: you have to get to get them to do what 2107 01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:44,479 Speaker 1: you want them to do. You have to put all 2108 01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,280 Speaker 1: kinds of add ons to them, like a scuba kit 2109 01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,840 Speaker 1: and all kinds of stuff. They're not that money. So 2110 01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:50,680 Speaker 1: just just get a fucking ordinary car. 2111 01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,160 Speaker 3: People, Look, what do you drive? I have no idea. 2112 01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:56,120 Speaker 3: I know we always rip my brand new SUPERU cross track, 2113 01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:57,160 Speaker 3: But what do you drive? 2114 01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:01,479 Speaker 1: Black Mazda twenty fifteen, twenty fifteen Black Mas the c 2115 01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,320 Speaker 1: X five. That's it? 2116 01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:07,240 Speaker 3: Sports like Dan Oh, it's an suv Okay, Yeah. 2117 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:08,840 Speaker 1: A little small one for city living because I can 2118 01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:10,479 Speaker 1: get into some of the tighter spaces. But it's got 2119 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,120 Speaker 1: enough where I can carry the dogs and the fan, 2120 01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:14,519 Speaker 1: so it's it's good for me. But we are in 2121 01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,040 Speaker 1: the market for a new one. And actually I do 2122 01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:19,240 Speaker 1: like Tesla's. I like normal Tesla's, but that cyber truck 2123 01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:20,000 Speaker 1: just looks like. 2124 01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:21,400 Speaker 3: So does Jay Aaron. 2125 01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, see what Jay Aaron likes is to get 2126 01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,960 Speaker 1: drunk at bars and then have the Tesla drive him home. 2127 01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,880 Speaker 3: No, he likes to sleep and then put the weight 2128 01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,599 Speaker 3: on the wheel. Don't We can't out him that badly? Luke, 2129 01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:37,040 Speaker 3: big weekend for Israel Atisania in the UK. How about 2130 01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:41,200 Speaker 3: a little real recognizing real as is he meets MVP 2131 01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:42,240 Speaker 3: for the first time. 2132 01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,400 Speaker 1: Your thought, yes, I had said I thought that MVP 2133 01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,559 Speaker 1: was of Nigerian ancestry as well. I think that might 2134 01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,400 Speaker 1: be wrong. I think he might be of Jamaican and 2135 01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:52,120 Speaker 1: then something else as well. But the fact that they're 2136 01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,599 Speaker 1: showing love to each other is cool. I love seeing it. 2137 01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:58,320 Speaker 3: At Asanya on Sunday yesterday went on to join Anthony 2138 01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:03,639 Speaker 3: Joshua to walk out WBO cruiserweight champion, Lawrence o'coli and Luke. 2139 01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:05,839 Speaker 3: It almost looked like they were forming their all Nigerian 2140 01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:07,640 Speaker 3: faction here. It was cool to see them with the 2141 01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:11,120 Speaker 3: flag walking out together. It was like, you know, all 2142 01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:15,000 Speaker 3: the sports coming together like a pol Imagine if if 2143 01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:19,160 Speaker 3: Luke Rockhold's vision of Enganu Usman and at Asanya doing 2144 01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:23,400 Speaker 3: this next contract signing time at the UFCA offices, that'd 2145 01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:24,240 Speaker 3: be interesting. 2146 01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:26,280 Speaker 1: Right, That'd be pretty cool. So, Lawrence Okoley is a 2147 01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:29,600 Speaker 1: cruiserweight out of the UK, but obviously of Nigerian heritage. 2148 01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:33,160 Speaker 1: All these guys are Nigerian but obviously have additional nationalities 2149 01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:37,000 Speaker 1: as well, Kiwi and British and everything else. But this 2150 01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,200 Speaker 1: was amazing to see. BC. You've been covering boxing a 2151 01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:41,880 Speaker 1: long time and MMA for me a long time as well. 2152 01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:42,519 Speaker 3: Dude. 2153 01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:45,639 Speaker 1: When after the Ultimate Fighter, even around UFC one hundreds, 2154 01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:47,759 Speaker 1: let's say two thousand and nine, So only like thirteen 2155 01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:51,960 Speaker 1: years ago, this was impossible to imagine a UFC champion 2156 01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:54,840 Speaker 1: walking out with I realized Joshua doesn't have the belts, 2157 01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:56,519 Speaker 1: but let's call him a champion or you know, it 2158 01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,800 Speaker 1: was one with the existing weight class champion of a 2159 01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:03,280 Speaker 1: boxing fight. They're all together. I understand they have the 2160 01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:05,120 Speaker 1: Nigerian heritage and that maybe they would have done this 2161 01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:06,960 Speaker 1: no matter what, but it does seem like b see. 2162 01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:08,840 Speaker 1: One thing to think about is, again, these guys may 2163 01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,000 Speaker 1: have done this no matter what because of their backgrounds. 2164 01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,439 Speaker 1: But I think part of the legacy of Meywether McGregor 2165 01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,600 Speaker 1: is not so much the fight itself, but how it 2166 01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:21,000 Speaker 1: just introduced mma in boxing to each other and opened 2167 01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:24,559 Speaker 1: up lines of communication in ways that never existed all 2168 01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:25,720 Speaker 1: that much before. 2169 01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,439 Speaker 3: In ways that James, Tony and Boston could not do. 2170 01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,400 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, wasn't and that was just a you know, hey, 2171 01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,080 Speaker 1: let's find a way to beat this guy's ass kind 2172 01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:36,719 Speaker 1: of thing. Ocy This is different. 2173 01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:39,640 Speaker 3: Lawrence Oakley Akoli, however you want to say, is he's 2174 01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:42,400 Speaker 3: big for the division. He won a decision yesterday against 2175 01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:47,040 Speaker 3: a dirty opponent and Luke Myris Brdis the other on 2176 01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,719 Speaker 3: cruiseweight champion whose only loss was to Usik, was there 2177 01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,800 Speaker 3: on the DEWN broadcast to talk up a future fight. 2178 01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:57,960 Speaker 3: But Luke, he also went back to the bullshit of 2179 01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:01,519 Speaker 3: calling on Jake Paul. So we were in remember the Raisin 2180 01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:05,800 Speaker 3: Ball's theme song that Myris Brtis did after getting the 2181 01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:09,280 Speaker 3: Jake tattoo, Well, Luke, Jake came back and said, I 2182 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,960 Speaker 3: have no idea who this Mario guy is, so brightis 2183 01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:19,479 Speaker 3: dressed up like super Mario and did analysis like this 2184 01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,200 Speaker 3: and then got in the ring dressed as super Mario 2185 01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:26,760 Speaker 3: and gave Lawrence Oakley a bag of McDonald's because he 2186 01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:30,799 Speaker 3: heard that Oakley likes to eat that. Luke, I can't 2187 01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:34,679 Speaker 3: tell you how before this whole Jake Paul saga started virus. 2188 01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,840 Speaker 3: Brtis from Latvia was one of the most like badass 2189 01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:41,760 Speaker 3: respected cruiserweight champions, only lost to Usick and it was 2190 01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:46,960 Speaker 3: a war. What the hell's going on with this dude? 2191 01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:52,400 Speaker 1: He doesn't have good stick? He has really bad stick. 2192 01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:56,200 Speaker 3: Really, I mean, who is advising this guy? I mean, 2193 01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,640 Speaker 3: I guess it's getting him known outside of boxing, but 2194 01:42:58,720 --> 01:42:59,759 Speaker 3: not for anything good. 2195 01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:02,599 Speaker 1: Luke, and it's not going to get it, dude, Jake Paul. 2196 01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:04,559 Speaker 1: I don't understand this, dude. Jake Paul's not going to 2197 01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:06,080 Speaker 1: fight good fighters. 2198 01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,040 Speaker 3: He's not gonna fight the best cruiserweight in the world. 2199 01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:12,160 Speaker 1: Like stop, dude, well you could you you can do 2200 01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:15,680 Speaker 1: this until you're eighty. He's not gonna fight you. It 2201 01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,960 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense, Like why it's like okay, all right, 2202 01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:20,879 Speaker 1: all right, dressing up like Halloween. 2203 01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,760 Speaker 3: Eddie Hearn in the boxing world is going nuts on 2204 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:28,840 Speaker 3: this undercard. Yesterday, Jordan Gil took on Kareem Gurfye. Jordan 2205 01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:31,160 Speaker 3: Gill was getting the ship beat out of him and 2206 01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,840 Speaker 3: then he got DDT Jake the snake style. Good Lord 2207 01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:40,200 Speaker 3: Luke I saw this, I mean, I mean that's like 2208 01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,679 Speaker 3: it's over, the fight's over, only it wasn't over. Luke 2209 01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,720 Speaker 3: Gil would get up, shake off the CTE and look 2210 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:52,439 Speaker 3: at this comeback finish down on the scorecards knocking out. 2211 01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:54,679 Speaker 3: I believe it's pronounced gurfy gurfy. 2212 01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:57,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. So my understanding is the gentleman who wins here 2213 01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:02,280 Speaker 1: as he landed that punch head both ear drums perforated wow. 2214 01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:05,200 Speaker 1: Probably if he landed this knockout shot as like a 2215 01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:08,559 Speaker 1: basic hail Mary, even after both ear drums were perforated. 2216 01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,720 Speaker 1: In fact, when he walks back to his corner, he 2217 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,760 Speaker 1: walks back mostly normal, but a little bit wobbly because 2218 01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:17,120 Speaker 1: I bet his balance was fucked from having that happen 2219 01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:17,519 Speaker 1: to him. 2220 01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:19,679 Speaker 3: What Jordan the thrill? Gil? 2221 01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:20,160 Speaker 1: What? 2222 01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,439 Speaker 3: What a what a comeback? All right? What a fight? 2223 01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:24,960 Speaker 3: Love it. Let's go to the Aussie rugby pitch. Luke. 2224 01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,080 Speaker 3: Here's the hit of the week, brought to you by 2225 01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:28,280 Speaker 3: Declan Cases. 2226 01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:37,519 Speaker 1: Oh oh god, he got he puts the shoulder into 2227 01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:39,960 Speaker 1: the I'm telling you what these these Aussie rules are 2228 01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:44,400 Speaker 1: these rugby bubbas, the good ones. They're fucking their their units. Bro. 2229 01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,240 Speaker 1: There are they are terminators? 2230 01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? They don't wear pads either. Wow, Luke. 2231 01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,360 Speaker 1: Right by the way, look at he he called. I'm 2232 01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:52,600 Speaker 1: not sure what the term is in rugby, but he 2233 01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:53,719 Speaker 1: basically causes his fumble. 2234 01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:56,840 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'm sure our Aussie fans will tell us 2235 01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,360 Speaker 3: what the hell just happened. But that looks like violence. 2236 01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:03,200 Speaker 3: That looks wow, Yeah, Luke. Tyson Fury took over the 2237 01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:15,320 Speaker 3: social channels. Let's hear what he had to say this week. 2238 01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:14,639 Speaker 4: On a regular basis. Why am I in boxing? It's simple, 2239 01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,760 Speaker 4: I've been boxing for two reasons. I've been boxing for 2240 01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:20,559 Speaker 4: the money for the pussy that. 2241 01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:31,320 Speaker 3: Come, Luke. I often get asked why I'm in the 2242 01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,160 Speaker 3: combat journalism game, and you know I have to say 2243 01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,120 Speaker 3: at least half of that is true, Luke. 2244 01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:39,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, Yeah, we just can't stop with all the 2245 01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:41,360 Speaker 1: pussy that gets flung at us. You know what I'm saying. 2246 01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:43,519 Speaker 1: It's just it never ends. BC. It never ends. 2247 01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:45,960 Speaker 3: By the way, Tyson is happily married. But you know, 2248 01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:49,080 Speaker 3: who knows, Luke. Maybe maybe he's taking taking a walk 2249 01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:53,040 Speaker 3: a few times. Upset City Luke in Dubai as forty 2250 01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:56,679 Speaker 3: one year old Germo Riggandah gets dropped in the eighth 2251 01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:01,679 Speaker 3: round of a unanimous decision loss to Vincent Estro Lobbio 2252 01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:04,760 Speaker 3: of the Philippines. Luke, we always assumed it would end 2253 01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:08,599 Speaker 3: sadly for Rego. Uh yeah, this is about it. I think. 2254 01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,200 Speaker 1: Damn dude, he lost, and so he took this fight 2255 01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:14,880 Speaker 1: to get what a big ass check, right because there 2256 01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,360 Speaker 1: was just no money behind it. I hope it was 2257 01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:17,920 Speaker 1: worth it. Bro. 2258 01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:20,800 Speaker 3: I love him, but you know he was his own 2259 01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,479 Speaker 3: worst enemy. He got screwed by the promoters at times, 2260 01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:25,320 Speaker 3: and then he screwed himself. I hate to see it 2261 01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,519 Speaker 3: because damn what a talent. I love me some Rego, 2262 01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:31,000 Speaker 3: but it's over, Luke. Wow, Hey, this guy doing it 2263 01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,439 Speaker 3: all for the Gram on the BMX. Check it out. 2264 01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:39,680 Speaker 1: Look Yeo, I'm gonna get road rash for the GRAM. Blah, 2265 01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get I'm trying to get impaled by 2266 01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:43,400 Speaker 1: bicycle gears for the GRAM. 2267 01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:47,440 Speaker 3: Luke, I got to introduce you to a new superhero. 2268 01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:52,600 Speaker 3: On Saturday and the Scottish heavyweight title in boxing was 2269 01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:57,320 Speaker 3: contested for for the first time since nineteen fifty one 2270 01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:02,200 Speaker 3: between Nick Campbell and this screen heired freak show named 2271 01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:03,560 Speaker 3: j McFarlane. 2272 01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:07,120 Speaker 1: Luke, I love Scotland. God bless these people. 2273 01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:11,800 Speaker 3: McFarlane is twenty three, he's got a record. 2274 01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:13,960 Speaker 1: Are they both wearing kilts or just the guy on 2275 01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:14,479 Speaker 1: the right. 2276 01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:16,960 Speaker 3: Just the guy in the right who would go on 2277 01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:21,000 Speaker 3: to fight in the In the kill McFarlane is twelve 2278 01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:24,200 Speaker 3: and six. He's twenty three. His nickname is Ghost and 2279 01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:26,920 Speaker 3: he would go on to lose by TKO seven. Here's 2280 01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,000 Speaker 3: a little bit of the action. I don't know how 2281 01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:31,880 Speaker 3: this became a televised fight, Luke, but I was all 2282 01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:35,640 Speaker 3: for it. What kind of sloppy shit? Is this? 2283 01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:37,960 Speaker 1: This is you and me only these guys are more 2284 01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:40,559 Speaker 1: athletic and less fat. 2285 01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,040 Speaker 3: We might have to get that guy on Morning Combat there. 2286 01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:46,360 Speaker 3: J McFarland, that is wow. 2287 01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:49,480 Speaker 1: How is that guy not boxing Big Tuna on CBS 2288 01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:51,679 Speaker 1: with Bellator promoting it? How is that? Great? Point? 2289 01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:54,639 Speaker 3: Gray Parr Hey, BKFC Triller. Can you guys get together 2290 01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:56,640 Speaker 3: and sign this guy up because he's probably gonna do 2291 01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:58,000 Speaker 3: it anyway in the streets if you don't, you know, 2292 01:47:58,080 --> 01:47:59,280 Speaker 3: in the pubs, if you don't let him. 2293 01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but this guy, he's definitely seen a few pub 2294 01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:02,160 Speaker 1: fights for sure. 2295 01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,759 Speaker 3: Best chugs of the week, Luke, who did it better? First? 2296 01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:12,040 Speaker 3: Pvez at an Ireland pub taken down? This pint? 2297 01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:14,720 Speaker 1: That's not even I mean, what is that cider. 2298 01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:16,360 Speaker 3: That looks like a lagger? Right? 2299 01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:18,160 Speaker 1: What kind of logger? Is that? 2300 01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:19,679 Speaker 3: A pilsner? A pissner? 2301 01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:22,320 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, it's more of a pilsner if anything, pilsner 2302 01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:23,679 Speaker 1: or a cider. 2303 01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:25,519 Speaker 3: Okay, what about the skills here, Luke? 2304 01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,519 Speaker 1: Um, you know she listened, she committed to the bit, 2305 01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:33,479 Speaker 1: She got the whole thing down, but it wasn't exactly 2306 01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,639 Speaker 1: who's our guy who drinks it like he's gonna die. 2307 01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:38,720 Speaker 3: Oh, you're talking about Ronnie Deutsch on his. 2308 01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:40,240 Speaker 1: Ronnie Deutsch, Yes. 2309 01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,320 Speaker 3: From New Hampshire. Let's go to Ronnie Deutsch. Let's have 2310 01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:46,080 Speaker 3: Ronnie show us how it's done, Lick. Now, granted, this 2311 01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:47,600 Speaker 3: guy will probably drop dead in. 2312 01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,840 Speaker 1: A few years, but sorry, is that an ak forty seven? 2313 01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:52,200 Speaker 3: Yes? 2314 01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:57,920 Speaker 1: Beer glass? Yes, somewhat awesome. 2315 01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:02,200 Speaker 3: He's about to turn it on himself, Luke. 2316 01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:05,720 Speaker 1: I was gonna make a joke here, but I'm not 2317 01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:07,160 Speaker 1: going out because it could get curious. 2318 01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:13,320 Speaker 3: But don't do it, Luke, don't do it. I mean, 2319 01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:16,000 Speaker 3: this guy is the best in the world at what 2320 01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:16,360 Speaker 3: he does. 2321 01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:19,439 Speaker 1: Luke. This is the most American thing I've ever seen. 2322 01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:21,720 Speaker 3: And by the way, he's got one more for you 2323 01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:22,240 Speaker 3: on the way out. 2324 01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:22,479 Speaker 1: Luke. 2325 01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:29,679 Speaker 3: Okay, this is He's Stone. Grenade's Luke, He's Stone, always 2326 01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:30,360 Speaker 3: got another one. 2327 01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,760 Speaker 1: The only thing more American than this would be if 2328 01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,000 Speaker 1: this guy was like twice as fat. Otherwise, this is 2329 01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:37,679 Speaker 1: about the most American thing I've ever seen. 2330 01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:42,559 Speaker 3: So that's five beers plus the gun, plus this corona, 2331 01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:43,120 Speaker 3: the clothes. 2332 01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:47,000 Speaker 1: Oh, he does the swirly method. Wow, and he probably 2333 01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:48,000 Speaker 1: spoke to Jay beforehand. 2334 01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:51,960 Speaker 3: Look at this yeah, and he's still jacked and con dunk. Luke. 2335 01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, why has he not run for office 2336 01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:56,559 Speaker 1: because I'm voting for him. Right. 2337 01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:06,240 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll have them on January sixth of our anniversary show, Luke. Okay, yeah, 2338 01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:07,920 Speaker 3: By the way, I'm really trying to get that jan 2339 01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:11,719 Speaker 3: six MK merchandise line going. It's I'm in some hurdles, 2340 01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:14,760 Speaker 3: but we'll see what happens, all right, Luke. Some men 2341 01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:17,599 Speaker 3: are in love with bbls like yourself and have a 2342 01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:21,639 Speaker 3: passion for it. Other men they like balloons. 2343 01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:24,240 Speaker 1: Okay, let me see. 2344 01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:25,040 Speaker 5: Take it to balloons. 2345 01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:28,800 Speaker 1: My love for balloons it's also sexual love. 2346 01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:32,800 Speaker 5: When I see a beautiful balloon, my heart starts a 2347 01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:37,040 Speaker 5: flutter and I get aroused. I'll take a twelve inch 2348 01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:39,800 Speaker 5: and I'll inflate it to eleven inch. That way, you 2349 01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:41,040 Speaker 5: can take a lot of abuse. 2350 01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:58,479 Speaker 3: I mean, it can't be worse than like like Hoarders 2351 01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,439 Speaker 3: that TV show, or I'm eight hundred pound person that 2352 01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:04,040 Speaker 3: other TV show. I mean, this is what is going 2353 01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:15,400 Speaker 3: on here, Luke. Okay, Hey, let's go over to Eastern Europe, Luke. 2354 01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:21,360 Speaker 3: They know how to have fun with bow and arrows, right, Okay, Okay, 2355 01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:25,160 Speaker 3: I'm still here to Luke, all right, all right, you 2356 01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:27,240 Speaker 3: know what, Jeff, maybe we'll skip this next one due 2357 01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:29,240 Speaker 3: to the war going on. It's a little bit insensitive. 2358 01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:31,840 Speaker 3: How about that? How about that, Luke gaff Are we 2359 01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:35,960 Speaker 3: still here? Yeah, let's have a little restraight, Geff, can 2360 01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:39,639 Speaker 3: we advance to rate that ta please? Please? Luke, It's 2361 01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:45,599 Speaker 3: time for everyone's favorite game show. It's called all Right. 2362 01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:47,760 Speaker 3: All right, Luke has dropped out. If we can get 2363 01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,840 Speaker 3: him back in finish the shit. This episode off the 2364 01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:54,640 Speaker 3: Rails one of the worst, probably our worst episode of 2365 01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:57,360 Speaker 3: all time. Luke, I had a very interesting bow and 2366 01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,000 Speaker 3: arrow that was gonna blow up a car. But the 2367 01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,519 Speaker 3: guy looked Russian. Not play that game. But let's go 2368 01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:05,439 Speaker 3: over to let's go over to rate that tat Luke. Okay, oh, 2369 01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:08,080 Speaker 3: here it is anyway, I guess we'll see it anyway. Okay, 2370 01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:12,000 Speaker 3: thanks for your thanks for your restraint. 2371 01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy sucks at holding an arrow. Yeah, but 2372 01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:25,200 Speaker 1: the impact, Luke, Oh that's pretty good. 2373 01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,519 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, there we go. 2374 01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:30,759 Speaker 1: You know what, people, people who live in the woods, 2375 01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:32,920 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what language they speak, they're all kind of 2376 01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:33,320 Speaker 1: the same. 2377 01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is fair. All right, it's time Luke rate 2378 01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:40,080 Speaker 3: that tat. Let's go to this UFC super fan who 2379 01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:43,080 Speaker 3: got Bruce Buffer on his leg? Luke, can you rate this? 2380 01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:51,720 Speaker 1: That's a mess yike, Bruce looks like he has been 2381 01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:54,920 Speaker 1: eating his way through these nonce This is not a 2382 01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:55,400 Speaker 1: great one. 2383 01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:57,800 Speaker 3: Look at the hair too. Look, I think it's time 2384 01:52:57,840 --> 01:52:59,719 Speaker 3: to get that covered up. What do you think, Luke? 2385 01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is all kinds of He looks 2386 01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:06,040 Speaker 1: like sloth from the Goonies in this picture. This is 2387 01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:07,519 Speaker 1: not great, and I mean I will say this in 2388 01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:09,560 Speaker 1: defense of it. It will lighten up. This looks like 2389 01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:12,320 Speaker 1: a fresh tattoo. It will get less dark over time, 2390 01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:14,040 Speaker 1: so you'll be able to see some of the contrasts 2391 01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:17,759 Speaker 1: a little bit more. But that thing is something is busted. 2392 01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:20,960 Speaker 3: All right, Let's go to this common McGregor superfan is 2393 01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,639 Speaker 3: all in. These are the front of his legs. Luke, 2394 01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:25,480 Speaker 3: your thoughts on the detail? 2395 01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:31,760 Speaker 1: Now? That is good? That is extremely good. Wow, that 2396 01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:33,880 Speaker 1: looks like a Steve Butcher tattoo. I'm not sure who 2397 01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,479 Speaker 1: did that, but that is and it's not finished yet either. 2398 01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:40,920 Speaker 3: What do you feel about you having the same tattoo 2399 01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:42,719 Speaker 3: on both legs? So that when you put them together, 2400 01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:43,800 Speaker 3: it's kind of becomes one. 2401 01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:45,960 Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah, I don't care for that. 2402 01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:48,160 Speaker 1: That's a little crazy. But if you're asking about the 2403 01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:51,280 Speaker 1: quality of the tattoo, it's extremely high. That's a very 2404 01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:51,960 Speaker 1: good tattoo. 2405 01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:54,720 Speaker 3: All right. We got one more UFC related one. Check 2406 01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:58,439 Speaker 3: out this Nate Diaz weed tribute tattoo two nine in 2407 01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:01,120 Speaker 3: the house. I think you should get this one. 2408 01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:05,519 Speaker 1: Oh, so this is dealing with a lot of negative 2409 01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:12,640 Speaker 1: space obviously. Now, that is a superb tattoo. That is Harry. 2410 01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:16,200 Speaker 1: You can see the different shades underneath his neck, right, 2411 01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:18,920 Speaker 1: that's good. The face looks lifelike. The parts of the 2412 01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:21,320 Speaker 1: skin that sag or have other features you can see 2413 01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:26,360 Speaker 1: quite clearly. That is a remarkably good tattoo. 2414 01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:29,160 Speaker 3: Wow, you got to be a real fan to get 2415 01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:30,760 Speaker 3: your favorite fighter on you like that, Luke. 2416 01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:34,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is hardcore and painful too. That shading is 2417 01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:35,800 Speaker 1: not easy to get. 2418 01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:39,600 Speaker 3: But like Luke, I'm a huge Montana de la Rosa fan. 2419 01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:41,640 Speaker 3: I don't think I could do that though, you know, 2420 01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:45,920 Speaker 3: all right? 2421 01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,520 Speaker 1: Also, also, where would you get that tattoo? 2422 01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:52,680 Speaker 3: Huh? Somewhere? The people of my family couldn't see it, Luke, 2423 01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:53,960 Speaker 3: let's go over the last tattoo. 2424 01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:56,560 Speaker 1: Look, would there would there be three needles on that tattoo? 2425 01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:59,760 Speaker 3: Oh? Come on, come on, come on, come on. 2426 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm just asking a question, Geph. 2427 01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:03,560 Speaker 3: Can we speed this up a little here, there's one 2428 01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,600 Speaker 3: of our worst episodes ever. Please, let's go to the 2429 01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:08,400 Speaker 3: final tattoo. Here we go, There we go. 2430 01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:17,200 Speaker 1: I can't read cheeseburger. Yes, that's actually a great tattoo. 2431 01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:29,240 Speaker 1: I think we lost you? Are we losing everyone? 2432 01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:29,360 Speaker 4: Here? 2433 01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:35,000 Speaker 1: Gaff? What's happening? We lost BC? So hold on, BC, 2434 01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:36,560 Speaker 1: we gotta wait for you to come back. I'm gonna 2435 01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:39,200 Speaker 1: smoke a vape on here while we wait for BC 2436 01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:46,040 Speaker 1: to get back. Yeah, you can play the video gap 2437 01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:52,080 Speaker 1: there go. Oh oh jesus, BC, where's this from? Because 2438 01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:58,480 Speaker 1: I can hear you? Yeah, dude, see that's actually not 2439 01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:01,800 Speaker 1: testifying in church because there's all arms. Don't flail, they 2440 01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:04,000 Speaker 1: just he just is handing people like a cup of 2441 01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:07,360 Speaker 1: coffee or something. That is yikes, Bro, that is a 2442 01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:16,000 Speaker 1: super yikes. All right, who would I rather be? Let's 2443 01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:25,480 Speaker 1: see let me see this is me after taco bell 2444 01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:31,360 Speaker 1: the opposite way, Bro looks like to me like they're 2445 01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:33,240 Speaker 1: trying to build something and I don't know what it is. 2446 01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,120 Speaker 1: This is me on the side. No, no, this is 2447 01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:39,080 Speaker 1: me on the subways in New York City when when 2448 01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:46,000 Speaker 1: the train's rattling, I'm just like, all right, would I 2449 01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:50,360 Speaker 1: rather be this guy? Let's see? Oh fuck me, this 2450 01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:53,000 Speaker 1: dude is about to just get it in the bozak. Right, 2451 01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:56,800 Speaker 1: He's got a hockey stick. You sure that's long enough, 2452 01:56:56,840 --> 01:57:05,320 Speaker 1: you fucking moron, Eat a fucking dick. The only thing 2453 01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:06,880 Speaker 1: that would make this better is if this was a 2454 01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:11,360 Speaker 1: gender reveal. Fuck everyone in this picture. Hey, hold on, 2455 01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:13,080 Speaker 1: hold on, go go hand hold on, Hey, guy with 2456 01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:15,200 Speaker 1: the stick, could you choke up more on the bat, 2457 01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:22,040 Speaker 1: you fucking idiot. But look how choked up he is 2458 01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:26,240 Speaker 1: on the fucking on the stick. Jesus, all right, let 2459 01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:39,520 Speaker 1: me see what's sex? So wait, wait, wait, wait, there's 2460 01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:47,040 Speaker 1: a there's a there's a joint on the side. Bong, 2461 01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:50,360 Speaker 1: Holy shit balls, And then you can just straight on 2462 01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:55,720 Speaker 1: he drinks the bong water. Okay, that is okay. My 2463 01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:58,360 Speaker 1: man is gross as fuck, and we got a party together. 2464 01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:03,720 Speaker 1: Bet b C, b C. Okay, let's just state this outright. 2465 01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:07,120 Speaker 1: The next time he comes to the States, we gotta 2466 01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:09,520 Speaker 1: get him in studio, and now long will we do 2467 01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:11,760 Speaker 1: a shoey. We got to drink some bong water with 2468 01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:18,720 Speaker 1: this fucking guy. I can hear you. I can hear you. 2469 01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:21,200 Speaker 1: They say you need to check your setup. Nobody can 2470 01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:26,960 Speaker 1: hear you. I can hear you. They can't hear you. 2471 01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:28,760 Speaker 1: Nobody can hear you. Bec what you have to tell me? 2472 01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:34,680 Speaker 1: What to tell the audience? Oh, said Kavanaugh. So BC 2473 01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:36,920 Speaker 1: wants everyone to know Shanade Kavanaugh. Her ability to deal 2474 01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:39,560 Speaker 1: with injury through odds and Ends with what we're doing 2475 01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:41,840 Speaker 1: here was incredible. BC. We should just close because we 2476 01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:44,640 Speaker 1: can't get you back. You can ask me a question. 2477 01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why she didn't take her dead leg out, 2478 01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:55,360 Speaker 1: and we'll do it buy Odds and Ends at a 2479 01:58:55,400 --> 01:58:58,120 Speaker 1: different time. We'll do it for Wednesday or whatever. All right, BC, 2480 01:58:58,200 --> 01:58:59,960 Speaker 1: we should probably close from here. This is a really 2481 01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:02,520 Speaker 1: ignoble into the show, but probably the one we deserve, right, 2482 01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:06,200 Speaker 1: This is what you get. This is what you get. 2483 01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:09,600 Speaker 1: Cinderella turns into a pumpkin after two hours, motherfucker. This 2484 01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:11,360 Speaker 1: is what you get for dragging the show out. So 2485 01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:14,560 Speaker 1: I'll put it that way. He's laughing everyone, all right, 2486 01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:17,120 Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone who watched thumbs up on 2487 01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:20,520 Speaker 1: the video hit subscribe. We appreciate you guys watching. Vote 2488 01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:24,840 Speaker 1: for US Sports Podcast Awards. You can do that, it 2489 01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:28,600 Speaker 1: would be appreciated. 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For everyone's patience, I'm Luke Thomas. 2500 01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:58,840 Speaker 1: Until next time, May all of your gains be loyal