WEBVTT - Mitchell Jones & Karl Reid 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:05.000 R and B Money. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.080 Honey, we are. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:16.080 Thanks take valoti. We are the authorities R and B 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:21.480 ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank. This is the 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.320 R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all things 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:26.520 R and B. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:32.240 Yeah, it starts somewhere. Come on, Bishop bad There is 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:32.879 an origin. 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:38.199 Yeah, the Bible says in the beginning, that's what we 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:42.040 have here on today. Yes, I'm talking about my beginning 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.599 where the love, just where the love began for this 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.480 thing right here. We got some guys in the building. 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:49.479 That's what I want to get straight to him. Man, 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.760 come on Mitchel Jones and call red of commission. 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:55.520 Thank you. 0:00:55.560 --> 0:01:00.600 Listen the reasons, the reason for nineties R and B. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:04.759 Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have foundational building blocks. 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.600 Sean Stockman says his regards. Yes he does. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:14.959 John's got off the phone with him. Sit there here 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:24.000 since it's love. Wow, excellent, excellent, Like okay, you know 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.399 I get it. You were you were commissioned, you were 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.120 called to do what you do, and you accepted that 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:33.720 call and you move, You moved in such a way 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:38.960 that you know that lives were changed, you know what 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.800 I mean, Like lives literally lives were changed without you 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.759 even being there. Like like, I am one of those 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:52.320 kids who in ninth grade discovered Commission. I joined this 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.800 this gospel group called Brotherhood. And I've been in church, 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.360 you know, all my life. But you know, I moved 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:02.680 to Maryland, new surroundings, new everything, new school, and I 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.880 meet these two guys in inquired class and they sing. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:07.360 I'm like, well, I say we should be a group. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:08.040 Let's be a group. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.120 It's like, we got two other guys in a group 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.080 with or whatever at the church down the way. So 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:16.160 I joined the group with them, their Brotherhood, and you know, 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.919 they're heavy whinings, love the wine and shout out to 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:25.360 the ones, love the ones right and and they're like, 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.400 have you heard Commission. I was like, no, I have 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:35.680 not heard commission. And they put on Commission. It's a rap. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:42.240 I had found somebody I wanted to be and his 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:49.000 name was Mitchell Jones. Wow. We would argue, like you 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:50.919 know how you like when you be a superhero from 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.240 a cartoon, when you go outside the play it's Marvel characters. 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.760 I was like, I'm Mitchell, you can't be you were 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:01.440 Mitchell yesterday. It doesn't matter. I'm better at me. That's 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:06.280 what we were doing. Wow, we're fighting to be Mitchell Jones. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.880 Man, I just want to say I appreciate all the 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.200 love that you've showing us over the last few years, man, 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.480 and all the people that came on and you know 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.320 and said some of about Commission. Is just good to 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:22.040 know that Commission Music is still blessing people. Man, and 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:26.440 you know, these gifts that God has given us. You know, 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.560 all we did was yielded back to God. Because it's 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.960 one thing to use your gift for God, use your 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.880 gift for them. See you get performance, but when you 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.760 yielded to him, you get presents. And we just thank 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.720 God for how we just yielded to Him. And we 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.400 just want to love people with our gifts. That's all 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:43.760 we did. 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:44.000 Man. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.040 We love people with our gifts, and that's that's what 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.400 it's all about, man, still sharing the love of God. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.720 We were commissioned to do this, you know, we were 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.280 sent by God, and we just thank God. I want 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.400 to thank God for you guys again, and for all 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.120 the guys in Commission that answered the call, because if 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.000 they didn't answer the call, it wouldn't be no commission. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.240 I wouldn't be here, you know, So I thank God 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:08.560 for Fred Michael Brooks, Keith Staates, Uh, Carl Reed, Jones, 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:15.200 Park Stuart, Yeah, phenomenal songwriter singer. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.200 Yeah, and uh who else we got here? 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.120 Yeah, you forgot Michael. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:28.400 Williams, Michael Williams, all those guys as the call man, 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:29.560 and I just thank God for that. 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.240 Like I said, we wouldn't be here if it wasn't 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:31.839 for those guys. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.960 Man, Just thank God for like I said, all the 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.120 people that showed love to us, man, you, Jamie and 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:37.640 all the other people that came on. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:39.360 And it's been a blessing to know. Man. 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.799 Like I said again that our music is still blessing people, 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:43.080 still still blessing. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:43.360 Still. 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.680 I still play it. I thank you in my car. Period. 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:51.960 It was my introduction to church music, to the gospel. Really, yeah, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.280 I never I didn't grow up on it, obviously, I'm 0:04:54.320 --> 0:05:03.680 sure you guys the podcast. But the first gospel artist 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.480 I had ever heard was commissioned ever like before, I mean, 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.960 like you know, i'd heard names, but to actually listen 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:12.280 to it, and I think I might have been like 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:16.800 maybe fourteen or fifteen, and it just and my whole life. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.760 Actually I grew up on as I would call it, 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:20.200 not even just r and B music. I grew up 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.040 on Cadillac music, you know what I mean. 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.920 It was just pimps playing music they listened to. So 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:26.880 that's what I grew up on. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:32.839 And for me, the first time hearing Commission, it wasn't 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.120 a shock because I felt like it was R and B. 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.320 Saying to God for me personally. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.479 You know, it was love songs to God more so 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:48.360 than it was I guess worship. It was more like 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.160 if you close your eyes. In my opinion, they felt 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.000 like R and B records to God. 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:55.960 For me, just me personally. 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.440 So I think it was an easy It was an 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.280 easy transition for me to just go from you know, 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.400 the R and B music that I was listening to, 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:07.080 to listening to Commission as well, especially with the harmonies right. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:13.960 And by this point Jodysy was already going, so I'm like, oh, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:16.160 this is where it comes from. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.960 Yeah, I didn't grow up in the gospel per se. 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:20.200 You know. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:26.920 My father he introduced me to Niking Cole and through 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:32.200 the early the late sixties, there was a contest who 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.880 can sound like Niking Cole and they paid five hundred 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.360 dollars and my father won that. He introduced me to 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.160 Na King Cole and night. King Cole was the kind 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:43.320 of guy that very technical, smooth, you know, you learn 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.760 how to when to use vibrada, when not to use vibrada, 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:51.400 Very melodic you know what I'm saying. Just phenomenal singer. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.400 So that's where it started for me. Then my brother 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.359 who used to sing with dramatics, he introduced me to 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:04.880 Stevie Wonder, Donnie Hathaway, Michael Jackson and see, doub you 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.360 don't see that, I don't know see that. 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.880 No, come on, man, you know see that man, Charlie 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:18.360 Wilson that I had to do that you're doing to 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.600 see out there like you know, this is really you 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.000 did that like he did. 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:24.800 And that's you know, that's that's that's the guy. I 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.840 just did a show with Charlie. So yeah, yeah, he 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:28.840 called me into the office. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:34.040 Yeah, and we say we got on the stage together 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:35.160 and and and and thank. 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.760 God together with with the crowd crowds going crazy, really dope. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.360 I think there was such a like as he spoke 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.560 on and I know, normally we like to go all 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.760 the way back to the beginning, like origin, and then 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:50.720 you went there, you started going in that King Cole 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.840 and all of that, and then you got the smooth 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:58.080 criminal sitting next to you, who just this is a 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:05.600 smooth criminal, silky school, silky and smooth, don't miss, just 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:18.440 right in there. And it was such an amazing balance 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:25.960 because everything was placement, like you guys were in you 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.480 guys were in the right places, doing the right things 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.120 on every song. 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:34.320 Yeah, that's hard. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.360 We tried. We all of the musical backgrounds from all 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:44.040 the guys, Fred Michael Books, Mitchell, myself, Keith singing in choirs, 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.839 singing in carls and gospel choirs in high school. A 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:51.120 month for high school. We all went there and we 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.760 had some amazing teachers and our background in Detroit. I 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.040 mean I lived like maybe seven blocks away from Stevie 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:01.200 Wondon in Detroit, and that was one of my first concerts. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:05.079 He came to Badley like in sixty nine. It's like, 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.400 it's gonna be Stevie Wonder. I said, man, oh crazy, 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.360 Stevie Wonder ain't gonna come to know Bagley Elementary. And 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.440 the curtain opened and he's sitting there with the world 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.400 is too and he's singing. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.679 You're like, it is, Stevie, that's your elementary school. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:19.319 At elementary school, that's correct. 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:20.600 And how old is he at this point? 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:25.559 Though, man, Stevie probably was around twenty twenty two somewhere 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:29.120 right in there. I'm like, Stevie came to school, Well 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:30.880 he was right up the street on Rose Line, so 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.920 because it was from saconof but he came to school, 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.120 and You're like, everything went through your mind about singing. 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.400 That was perfect because it was Stevie And then. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:40.760 Who was it? 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.719 And Motown? And you know Motown is in the same 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.440 time we went, so we just you know, grew up 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.719 listening to all the Motown sound, I mean listening to 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.520 all of the gospel sounds. You know. We had a 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:58.400 radio station called wor gpr DFQ that played a collose 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.280 of music that was from soft rock to hard to 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.959 regular gospel to whatever it was. And we learned and 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.959 gleaned from people, because everybody learns from everybody. Nobody just 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:10.520 shows up and said this is who I am. It 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.319 doesn't happen that way. You listening to somebody. And I 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.720 think we have a collection of stuff. Fred's background, Mitchell's 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.679 hearing and learning and listening and being in groups. And 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.120 I started singing when I was in elementary school, you know, 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.840 Hollywood's Singers was one of my first tunes. And they 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:29.520 wasn't singing it right, and I got a masked sayd man, 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.439 y'all ain't singing this. I got to get this right. 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.199 And so from that point to middle school, joining the 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.520 glee club, and then only is the high school, and 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:43.280 then singing in the choir, doing solos and stuff like that, 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:47.280 playing drums and you just the music stuff started coming 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.480 out of you, man. So I think our experience brought 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:51.800 us to where we are now. And then all that 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.480 stuff we learned. Because when you hear stuff, it's inside you. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.640 It's getting in there, and you take it and you 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.760 use yourself to interpret what you're hearing. It helps mold 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.319 you in shape you. So that's when we came. That's 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:03.480 why we came to what we were doing. 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:07.400 So how does it get from you know, the beginnings 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.560 of you know, Nat King Cole and and Hollywood Hollywood 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.200 Swingers and all of this to commission? 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.320 How does that even business? In high school? 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.160 School together? We went in high school. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.720 You tell me, tell what my little part, you can 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:27.319 tell you you got the biggest part. Fred and I 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.480 was in high school together. So I remember meeting him. 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.959 He came to my church one day and he was 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.680 playing the bass, and uh, I didn't know. I didn't 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.720 talk to him at that time, but I saw him 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.560 in school again. I said, man, you played the bass 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:39.640 with grace. He said yeah. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.520 So you know, he said you you go to that church? 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.400 I said, yeah, I go to I started the Church 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.800 of God in Christ And so one day a friend 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.000 of a friend of mine named Tony Clarkston said, have you. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:54.200 Heard Fred sing? He said, come here, Fred, come here. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.960 So when Fred sang, I said, wow, Man, you played 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.920 the bass and you sing, I said, man, you should 0:11:59.920 --> 0:12:00.559 be singing. Man. 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.240 He said, Fred don't sing much, but he's because he 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.559 was playing the bass. A lot said you should be singing, 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.839 and so Fred and he told Freddy, say Fred, you 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:09.679 need to listen to Mitchell. 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:11.120 So I sang something. 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.480 He sang, I think one of the Donnie song and 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.959 I sang on the Dney song and I said wow. 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.439 I said, man, we need to do we need to 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.640 do something. So we singing in talent show and it 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.920 went pretty good. Did you sing a gospel record in 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:28.000 town show? Everything was changed okay and it went well. 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.319 So we said, man, we gotta do something. So from 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.800 that point, I knew Fred and I was going to 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.520 be together, you know, no matter what. And I just 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:40.920 feel like at that time we were probably answering the 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.040 call but didn't know it yet, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.119 And so later on we had another group called Apostles, 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:51.360 me Tony Harn, Tony Claxton and Fred, and we didn't 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.080 sing much around the city, but we sing in church 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.200 in our church. Then we started singing a group called Saved, 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:01.319 and that we did our first forty five and that 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.520 was a phenomenal experience to hear yourself, you know, when 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.599 you sing and you get a chance to see what 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.000 see what it sounds like on table, and that was 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:10.040 a phenomenal experience. 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.040 And we was excited about that forty five we did. 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.439 But then that group broke up. So Fred started playing 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:16.080 with the Winings. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:17.800 I didn't know that. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:19.400 Oh yeah, he started playing bass with the one and 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.320 he was singing with him a little bit too right, 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.280 and so he said, hey, man, listen, just hold up, man. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.280 You know we're gonna do We know we're gonna do something. 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.319 So Keith and Carr was singing in the group and 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.080 they did something in high school as well. I'm gonna 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:36.040 let him tell that. But I started singing with them, okay, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.200 And I said, when I started singing with them, guys, 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:39.800 I was like, we started singing around the city. 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.079 I was like, oh man, they're gonna be like the 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.040 New Winings, or they're gonna be like the Winings. I said, man, 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.200 I can't wake to Fred. I can't wait to Fred 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.120 get in this. Yeah, And they was like, who is Fred? 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.640 I said, you know Fred, you know she's singing with 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.040 me and safe, he said, And I knew it. I 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:54.960 didn't even ask him could he be in it? Because 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.040 I knew you know what I'm saying. Because because I 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.120 knew and Fred was gonna be together, we got God 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:01.000 was gonna be together. 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.160 So when I said, you know, man, I can't wait 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:04.920 till Fred getting this, they said, oh yeah. So when 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.920 Creid came and he heard the band, the band wasn't 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:08.360 real good. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:09.640 It was okay. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:14.240 But Fred had a group called the Unit Michael Brooks, 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:19.000 Michael Williams, Wow, Mike Right, and Fred and they used 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:19.440 to play. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.400 Around the city, you know, weddings and things like that. 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.920 So Fred kind of connected the band together. And I 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.200 remember the first time we sang Michael Brooks came and 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.280 played the song called the City, and we learned it. Man, 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.520 when we sang it's a city in the distance, we 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.440 couldn't even finish. Man, we ran out of there, like 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.320 right in the world, right in the world. So we 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.520 knew it was something that God put together. You know 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:46.560 what I'm saying. We all That's why I say at 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.400 the beginning, I'm glad everybody answered the call, because if 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.560 everybody didn't answer the call wouldn't be no commission. 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.400 So even in the word commission. I remember when Fred 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.320 we was talking one day and he said, Man, we 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.520 got to think of a name. I said, He said, uh, 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.160 you know, we commission office. You cause we went to 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.800 the service together. He said, you like commission offices. I said, hmm, 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.480 that sounded like a good name right there. And then 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:13.200 the name it says right there. God chosen us and 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.360 he sent us. He's the one put it together. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.240 And man, we from then on, Man, we just went 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.640 around the city, went around the world, and just began 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:24.200 to share the love of God. Man, it was been 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.840 a blessing ever since. I'm let Carl finish that. 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:31.160 Yeah, I don't know what else. No, my experience was 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.240 the same church, singing to church. Keith and I went 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.560 to the same church. I mean we were friends as 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.080 as almost like toddlers of Bethlehem Temple. And so when 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.320 his dad started the church, my family means to help 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:45.200 start the church with him. But uh, in high school, 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.040 you know, I was in the glee club, singing and stuff, 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.680 and then we were singing church. So one day after service, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.160 we stood around the piano and started singing, and I'm like, 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.560 kid man, we should start a crew. You know, let's 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.240 do that. Cause my cousin played like classic piano, so 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.600 he was playing and so we started singing songs. So 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.200 we would sing Andrew Kraut songs, stuff like that. And 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.600 the next thing, you know, we started the group Sounds 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.880 of Joy, and we were trying to get his brother joined, 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:12.720 but his brother wanted to do preaching, so he didn't. 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.120 You know, preaches either got to sing or they got 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.440 to preach, and so he preached, Oh, you can't do both. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:19.720 You can do both, but it's not gonna work for you. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.440 You gotta go a whole hog one way or another. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.040 And so he went preaching. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:29.400 So Keith was auditioning for a group called Blessed and 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.080 Mitchell went to the rehearsal, and when he went to 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.080 the rehearsal, he was hearing Keith singing. He's like like, man, 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.240 you can really sing. And he's like, man, we got 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.160 a group called Sounds. Joey should come check us out. 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.480 And so Mitchell came over. Now, mind you, I knew 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.160 Mitchell from high school and seeing him at church. So 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:49.040 it was high school and church for us. Fred, Michael Williams, 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.800 all those guys, and so he invited him to warn 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.080 our rehearsals. So Mitchell came in, he listened to us 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:58.120 and then everybody's noble. Mitchell plays and writes songs, so 0:16:58.200 --> 0:16:59.640 he sat on the panther to sing this. So he 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.800 started playing and me and Keith started singing. The party 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.159 gave us and we was like, oh my god, Mitchell, 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:08.600 do you want to be with us? And he's like, 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:13.520 oh yeah, playing And they said, man, I can't wait 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.440 to Fred get in here. We're like, Fred, yeah, that'd 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.480 be the fourth got cool. Cool. So from that point 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.560 Mitchell was a liaison to get us connected with Fred. 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.760 Fred hooks us up with the unit, and that's what 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.480 what commission was. Those seven guys started the group Commission 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.920 back in nineteen eighty two, eighty two. Now, I know 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:34.840 some of y'all probably wasn't born in but that's how 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:39.520 long it was we saw doing what were doing. I 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:45.560 was I was six, but that's how long ago it was. 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:49.680 And so we started pursuing to get a manager right, 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.240 and we had some crazy experiences getting the managers and 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:57.159 working doing gigs, putting money together and get in the 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:58.960 studio because that was the goal. We got to get 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:00.760 in the studio and do a record. We got to 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:01.400 get a manager. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:02.199 And so. 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:08.119 Fred knew the Winings manager, Derrick Dirkson, and so he 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.040 went to say, man, would you like the manager? He's like, 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.960 I'm managing the winers, Why would I manage y'all? So 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.160 he said, he gave him a note, but we kept going. 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.040 We met some other managers. Didn't turn out to be that. 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.680 It was probably maybe two months later he was dismissed 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:25.600 from the Winings and he put that phone call in said, hey, 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.359 listen you guys, STI elevate on. He's like, yeah, I 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.280 guarantee you. I'll get you a record deal, just give 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.919 me two weeks. Sure enough, two weeks later he had 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.880 a record deal with Light Records, went through Larry Strauss, 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:43.040 and they gave us a lease agreement, right, which ain't 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.760 a record deal. It's just if this one works, y'all 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.160 get some more on. So we put that one out. 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:53.160 I'm Going On came out July thirteenth, nineteen eighty five, 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.400 hit on the radio like were on the radio, were 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.960 on the radio. Plan I'm going on next thing, you know, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.840 But that's three years. That's three years. It took us 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:06.040 three years to get from meeting, rehearsing together, getting to 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.840 know everybody, meeting the manager, and getting a record deal. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:12.880 That was three years July thirteenth, you know, you don't 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.200 forget those dates, and then we the rest is history, 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.040 man song after song. So they came back maybe six 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:20.680 months later and said, listen, we want to sign y'all 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.760 to a real contract. Can we get four more options? 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:25.840 And we was like four more? 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.440 Oh yeah, So we signed for four more with that 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:33.760 Light Records. So we did actually just six with the 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:34.760 Light Records. 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:37.399 They put they gave six options, they gave us. 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.000 We did the one and it gave us five more. Yeah. 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:46.280 In the in the gospel world, yes, the business side 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:50.080 of it, How different is it from the R and 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.080 B side? I mean, I mean, obviously you guys have 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:53.960 always done gospel. But I'm saying as far as just 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:57.480 the points structure, the money structure is. 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:58.080 Like, is it. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.720 Better? Is it worse? Is it like? Did y'all make 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.119 some real money off of you know, these first deals 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:06.240 or how does that go? 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:07.639 Absolutely? No? 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.520 Right, okay, okay, so doing it for the Lord, doing 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:12.960 it for the Lord. 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:13.840 Absolutely. 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:18.840 It's a world of difference in the gospel than it is. 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.720 The budgets are a lot bigger, even how they do radio. 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:25.080 Everything is different in gospel than when they do it 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:25.880 in the secular radio. 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.480 As far as so it's bigger in gospel, you said 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:31.760 it's bigger in R and B always way bigger than RB. 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:35.439 You know everybody's once we got going, we really want, man, 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.600