1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the six DJ and 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: buck with you. 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Buck. How we doing, man, We're good. The weekend is 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: upon us. We got some good games, so I'm excited 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: to talk about You got a playoff game this week? Yeah, 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: we do, got a little playoff game. We got to 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: go down to Huntington Park to take on the Marquez 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: I think the Gladiators. Okay, they got a three star prospect, 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: someone who has DJ. Just thinking about this, like just 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: from an efficiency standpoint, imagine having twenty six catches in 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: seventeen touchdowns, right, that's what we take acount account man 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: really really really good player. 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 3: He's a good player. That's great. 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, my sons, they've got their their playoff game. They 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: play Brawley from out in the desert. They're coming out. 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: Always tough kids, those kids out of the desert, tough man. 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: You don't have to out there. 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: Just don't have to go out there. That's a ride. Yeah, 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: glad we don't have to do that. 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: But anyways, high school fotball playoffs all over the country, 22 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: which fun time of year. We're going to get to 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: preview in some of these games. I would encourage folks, 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: if they haven't done it, go back and listen to 25 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: the episode we just did with Luke Keigley. I think 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: really the last two guests that we've had, between Keith 27 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: Ley and Andrew Luck, they're not long listens under thirty minutes. 28 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Get you a little jog in if you'd like. But 29 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: I was thinking about it, Buck, just with those two guys, 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: that might be the smartest offensive player I've ever scouted. Yeah, 31 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: and that might be the smartest defensive player I've ever scouted. 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: It. 33 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: I don't even know if I need might have I 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: think I would say I would confirm I have that 35 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: those are the two smartest players I've ever evaluated. And 36 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: we just had them on back to back episodes and 37 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 2: back to back weeks. 38 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: I should say, yeah, so interesting to hear both of 39 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: their perspectives, right, and we can talk about offense and defense, 40 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: but just the global perspective of the game and what 41 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: is going on in the game, the trends of the game, 42 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: how teams need to be constructed, all of those things. 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: So I would say that, given they're intelligence, I'm not 44 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: surprised to see Andrew Luck doing what he's doing as Stanford. 45 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm definitely not surprised to see Louke Keithley with his 46 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: hands and a few different things in the football world. Look, 47 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: we've always said this in a team been in process, 48 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: you always have an affinity for smart players, guys that 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: can do it. And just the conversations that we had 50 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: with most of these guys in the last two weeks, 51 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: higher level conversations that take you to a different place 52 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: when it comes to talking about ball. 53 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why to me, you look at where 54 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: they came from, not a surprise, right, Stanford Boston College, 55 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: those are you know, two of the best educations you 56 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: can get in this country, and they produce two of 57 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 2: the smartest football players, not the two smartest that either 58 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: of us have scouted in the last twenty five years. 59 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: So something be said for that. There was a name 60 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: that I wanted to mention to you about a college 61 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: football opportunity that's come up as of late. That's Pa Fitzgerald, 62 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: who was a coach at Northwestern. He's, you know, like 63 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: stuff went on there, it looks like that's all been 64 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: you know, accounted for, and he's going to get another 65 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: opportunity to be a coach. My question is it's only 66 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 2: been a couple of years, with the landscape has changed dramatically, 67 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: you still feel like that's a good hire and a 68 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: good fit because to me, the Stanford job just jumps 69 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: out at me, is like that would be a pretty 70 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 2: good fit there. 71 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 3: Man, that's a great fit for him. 72 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: And I would say that a job that is asking 73 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: the coach to do the most with the least should 74 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: be knocking on his door because having to deal with 75 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: the challenges that he had at Northwestern High academic standards, 76 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: small recruiting pools, all of those things. I want someone 77 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: who understands that and embraces the challenge, doesn't use it 78 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: as an excuse. Pathis Gerald has shown that he can 79 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: win in those environments, and when we talk about a 80 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: school like Stanford or some of the other heavy academic 81 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: schools where they're recruiting from the same pond, a very 82 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: small pond at that, I need someone who embraces that 83 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: and understands a it's a slow. 84 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: Build up to get to those ten. 85 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Win teams and then we may fall back, but then 86 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: I have to build it up. You have to have 87 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: someone that is really committed to the program. And understands 88 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: the cyclical nature of being really good at a school 89 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: like that. 90 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: No doubt. 91 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: The other thing on the on the coaching set of things, 92 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: my padres hired a former player who didn't have any 93 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: managerially experience but has played with some of the guys 94 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: that are currently. 95 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 3: On the team. 96 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: You know, just he was on the team I think 97 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: in twenty two and it got me thinking, you know, 98 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: you know, we see these football coaches and we've got 99 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: former players that are coaching. Obviously, I do the charge games. 100 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: Gim Harball played in the NFL for a long time, 101 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: but then one along the coaching path to get you know, 102 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: where he is. We've seen other guys take different routes 103 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: as former players that maybe have just stayed in the 104 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: NFL haven't gone down to college. But you know, do 105 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: you think that we could see it where a player 106 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: could step off the field and within a few years 107 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: of stepping off the field, could could be a functional 108 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: NFL head coach. 109 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: I think it's really hard, DJ, and I just say 110 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: it just coming from the perspective of just the transition 111 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: even in making like coaching high school ball and being 112 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: able to organize yourself, lead a group, lead a team structure, 113 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: practices and days and a calendar year. 114 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: There's a lot that goes to it. 115 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: Now, if someone was going to take it on, man, 116 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: they have to have a supporting cast that is terrific, 117 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: like former head coach that is there to help him 118 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: negotiate through some of those things experienced position coach, because 119 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: you can't have too much inexperience while leading a group 120 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: of your peers. 121 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: I think it'd be really difficult. 122 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: I would love to say the former player and me 123 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: would love to say yes, they can go do it. 124 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: I think it's hard because I think. 125 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: It's a learned thing, and even with the experience in 126 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: other places, there's still nothing that prepares you for being 127 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: a head coach, even if you've been coaching for a 128 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: long time. 129 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: It's a completely different job description than anything that you're 130 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: asked to do before you take the reins of a franchise. 131 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: You haven't put it in the chat there about Jeff Saturday, 132 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: you know, but Jeff Saturday was brought in right in 133 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: the middle of the fire, like that was not someone 134 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: who was brought in, you know, right after the end 135 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: of the season, having a whole off season to build 136 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: and kind of higher his weaknesses, you know, and surround 137 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: himself with a collective group that could you know, and 138 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: for lack of a better term, just kind of group 139 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: their way as the head covie, you know. And I 140 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: the reason I was saying that is because I was 141 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: thinking about it, maybe just because I'm a kid that's 142 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: from San Diego and I'm seeing a form pottery player 143 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: just going there. And I'm sitting here saying and I 144 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: was around Philip Rivers for his last or you know, 145 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: five of his last years in the league pretty extensively. 146 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: And I know, obviously he's just coaching high school football. 147 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to compare that to the National Football League, 148 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: but a guy that's that smart, they would have that 149 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: much respect inside an organization if he were to get 150 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: a job somewhere. I mean, he'd have to hire the 151 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: right coordinators and assistant head coach and everybody else to 152 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: help him with the organization side of things and laying 153 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: out the calendar. As you said, Man, I don't think 154 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: I could sit here and say, oh, if Philip Rivers 155 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: didn't have a chance, I don't I think he would, 156 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: no look at. 157 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it depends on how he 158 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: approaches it. And who he can bring with him self. 159 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Awareness is critical if you're embarking on that journey as 160 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: a head coach, particularly if you're a year or two 161 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: right off the field. So you have to have enough 162 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: awareness to know what are my strengths, what are my weaknesses? 163 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: Am I a play caller? Am I a visionary? I 164 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: meaning I'm the CEO. Here's what it should look like. 165 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Now go hire the people that can make that vision 166 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: come to life. How do I manage the tough conversations 167 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: with players? How do I manage the tough conversations with 168 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: ownership and the general manager and all those things. 169 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: It can be done, but it's really difficult. 170 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: But it's no more difficult than anybody else who has 171 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: to step into those things. All of these jobs are 172 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: really really hard, and it takes a village to be 173 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: able to help the head coach become the best version 174 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: of himself in the job. 175 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: And I think about Kellen Moore. You know, you have 176 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: an unbelievable college career, winning a quarterback in college with 177 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: ptister I believe at the time when he came into 178 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: the league. And so then he goes and he has 179 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: a career and obviously doesn't play much. But he's you know, 180 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: around Detroit, around Dallas. Yeah, and he comes right off 181 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: of the field and then he goes into the quarterback 182 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: coach role, and then he's a coordinator for a few 183 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: years and then he's a head coach. My thing is, okay, Well, 184 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: that's a longer period of time he had coaching in 185 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: the NFL than someone like Philip Rivers. But Philip Rivers 186 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: played for so much longer than Kela did, so he 187 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: got all that experience with different coaches and different schemes 188 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: and all that, and it's NFL experience. So Kellen last 189 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: played in twenty seventeen. He got hired as the head 190 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: coach this year, So I mean that's not that long 191 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: of him A runway, Okay, So that's fine. 192 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: This used basketball as an example because basketball is more 193 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: likely to follow day route. 194 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: And this thing about the. 195 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: Lakers and JJ re j Reddick, Now JJ Reddick hadn't 196 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: been he had had the Sneakers hung up long before 197 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: the Lakers call and put him right in the mix. 198 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: And he's able to do it. And I think the 199 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: one thing that JJ. 200 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: Reddick has done, if you look at the staff, he 201 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: has either two or three former NBA head coaches on 202 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: the staff, so what they're able to do or be 203 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: the sounding board. 204 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: Hey, here's what you need to think about. 205 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: Hey, what do you know because you need I would 206 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: say that the group of elders to help you. And 207 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: then he has the vision for how he needs this 208 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: team to play. He understands what it's like, he can 209 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: handle the communication in those things. I think it must 210 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: require a patient owner, an owner that is going to 211 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: help nurture the head coach along the way all of 212 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: those things where everyone is on board, and then really 213 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: an experienced general manager. You just can't have too much 214 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: inexperience at these big decision making roles. So if you 215 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: have an inexperienced former player transitioning to a head coach, 216 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: to me, I would want to very experienced personnel man 217 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: to make sure that we're really solid in that and 218 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: then in hiring. 219 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: The other stuff, it's the same deal. 220 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just kind of going through some of these 221 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: other teams here, you know, real quick, and I'm thinking 222 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: of guys like Kevin O'Connell. You know, oh yeah, you 223 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: think we talked about Kellen You think about Demico Ryans 224 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: on the other side. 225 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: Of the ball, does a great job. 226 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: I mean at that time they went into you know, 227 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: being coordinators and Josh McCown. Remember everybody flipped out when 228 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: Josh McCown was up for the head coaching job. But 229 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: I mur if it was Houston, Yeah, it was Houston. Yeah, 230 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 2: one conversation because he had been coaching high school. But 231 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: then now he's now, he's been in the NFL for 232 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 2: a few years as a quarterback coach. He's going to 233 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: get an opportunity before too long to do it as well. 234 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: It just seems like I don't know, like what's the 235 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: difference is it? How would you value three years as 236 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: a coordinator? You know, say you let's say you played 237 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: for Let's say you played for seven years and you 238 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: got three years as a coordinator. So that's ten years 239 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: of experience, three of which are as a coordinator or 240 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: a guy who played quarterback in the NFL for seventeen years. Like, 241 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: I know, you might not have coordinated, but Jimmie Christmas, 242 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: you've seen every offense and understood all that. 243 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 244 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: Because I really don't think coordinating should be a prerequisite 245 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: to being a head coach because I think the jobs 246 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: are completely different. I think about Dan Campbell, and I 247 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: think about what Dan Campbell was able to do, like 248 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: very quickly. He hadn't been off the field long when 249 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: he was the interim head coach in Miami, you know, 250 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: and then he goes and he's with the Saints for 251 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: a little bit before he gets his chance with the Saints. 252 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: I think they are different paths to be able to 253 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: be a head coach and an effective head coach. I 254 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: think what you're betting on, you're betting on the person, 255 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: the character of the person that they'll figure it out. 256 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: They'll find a way to figure it out. They'll put 257 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: themselves in an environment to be able to do it. 258 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: And so I think it's the person more than anything 259 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: that they've done on the field. 260 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just from a timeline standpoint, Yeah, did the 261 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: homework on it. So Vrabel was eight years after playing, 262 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: he's a head coach. Dan Campbell six years when from 263 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 2: being the interim head coach, So like that's that's a 264 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: decent amount of time. These amount years are I'm just 265 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 2: to me. When I when I talked to and I 266 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: know Andrew Luck didn't want to coach, But when we 267 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: talked to Andrew Lucky, listen to that conversation we talked 268 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: to Luke Keigley. I mean, you just have a hard 269 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 2: time telling me that I know he's that ball, but 270 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: he couldn't be it. He couldn't be a head coach 271 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 2: in the NFL. Like I have a hard time saying that. 272 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: In some and some people some would say because I 273 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: sit there on the sideline and a whole lot of difference. 274 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: You're managing personalities, whether it's high school, whether it's pros, 275 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: it's all the same. They're a little older, they have 276 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: money in their pocket, but uh, the same conversations and 277 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: communication and instruction that you have to provide don't change 278 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: much from Friday to Sunday. And so a great coach 279 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: is a great coach at any level. Yeah, I just 280 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: want to have that conversation. 281 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 2: I think it's fascinating, you know when you just look 282 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 2: at experience, and experience is important. Ideally you have it, 283 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 2: but I do think it's comparing what your different experiences 284 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: are and what you value there. And some of these 285 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: guys put a long time in this league, or smart guys, 286 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: I think if they wanted to be really good coaches. 287 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: Let's take quick pause, we'll come back. We'll look at 288 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: a couple of these ball games this weekend. All right, buck, 289 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 2: let's jump in here. First. One is going to be 290 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: in Berlin, Germany, Falcons Colts. Was that a hiccup for 291 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: the Colts or is that an alarm for them? 292 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it was a hiccup. 293 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: I think it is a reminder of how they have 294 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: to play, and it's a reminder of Look, Den Jones 295 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: has been great for them, but he needs to play 296 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: a certain way to make sure that they operate at 297 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: the best level. And I believe he's a high end 298 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: game manager. We can talk about high end trailer like 299 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: when things are around him are good if he just 300 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: operates according to playing they played really well. When they 301 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: are forced to move him outside of their role, that's 302 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: when things can go a right. And I think that 303 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: was just a reminder to them, Hey, we had a 304 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: lot of success. Let's make sure we stay on this path. 305 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: That we're disciplined enough to stay disciplined with how we 306 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: need to approach it. But this team is loaded because 307 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: we can talk about the hiccup. I am excited to 308 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: see what they're gonna do with Salt Carton. Yeah, he 309 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: jumps right in. He's practiced, he's out a concussion protocol. 310 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: I just want to see what new Rumo is going 311 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: to do with them as they I believe they still 312 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: have to repair some of the confidence that has kind 313 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: of been damaged the last year and a half, where 314 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: he say, have some struggles, but man, I just remember 315 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: how good he was and a two time, two time 316 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: All Pro player. 317 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: You love having those guys on island. What can they 318 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: do to allow him to get back to that. 319 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're going to see him re energize. 320 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: You know. 321 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: I think people don't understand when you've just been losing 322 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: and losing and losing. That takes a hole, man, It 323 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: takes it out of you. Went from the freaking outhouse 324 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: to the penthouse. Now you're right in the middle of 325 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: a playoff chase here. I think you'll see the best 326 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: out of him against a good Falcons offense. Talk about 327 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: Jackyl and High. Don't know what we're going to get 328 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: there out of them. To me, my favorite game of 329 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: the weekend, These next two are my two favorites. Ravens 330 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: Vikings as the Ravens Revitalization Tour heads to Minnesota, where 331 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: the Vikings are four and four Ravens are three and five. 332 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: But JJ McCarthy, Look, it wasn't spectacular, but more than 333 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: solid and more than enough. 334 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, more to solid, more enough. And my thing with J. J. 335 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: McCarthy is you can't really quantify what he brings to 336 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: the table because as much as you want to boil 337 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: down the quarterback position to the physical tools to arm, 338 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: the athleticism, accuracy and all those other things, there's a 339 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: dude factor that you have to have. And to me, 340 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: I just get a sense that he has that dude 341 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: factor that makes people believe in him and makes players 342 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: want to follow his lead. And when I look at 343 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: the glare, the steeliac glare that he displays sometimes when 344 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: it's go time, I just believe he has it. But 345 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: if you're the Baltimore Ravens, this is exactly what you want. 346 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: Man. 347 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: Another win puts them right back in the mix. The 348 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: Pitsburgh Steels didn't run away from the division when they 349 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: had an opportunity. I'm looking at the Ravens licking their 350 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: chops saying, man, we get this. We're right where we 351 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: need to be. Even though it didn't start the way 352 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: that we wanted, the way that it should have started. 353 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: For us. 354 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you talk about the Colts mint Ago and 355 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: seeing Saft Gardner, I'm excited to see Draymond Jones. Saw 356 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: him last week. He was great for the Tennessee Titans. 357 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: They need some more push. They hope he can bring it. 358 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: But this is a team. You're going to see the 359 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: defense starting to come around. They've added some key pieces, 360 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: gotten some guys back. Now they don't need to be, 361 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: you know, the Baltimore Ravens of old. They just need 362 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: to get back to, you know, being at least a 363 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: top twelve ish type unit there and playing at a 364 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: little more consistent level. So we'll see what that looks like. 365 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: That was the first one of my favorite games. The 366 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: second one is this next one, the seven and two 367 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: Patriots at the six and two Bucks. This is a okay, 368 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: is this real game for the Patriots. You go down 369 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: there and beat the Bucks. You got everybody's attention. 370 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and man, these are two really good teams. I 371 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: love how the Buccaneers play. 372 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: I love how Baker Mayfield in this offense is able 373 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: to get down. 374 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: They've been able to. 375 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: Do it with or without their top guys in the lineup, 376 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: which speaks volumes to his ability and the adaptability of 377 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: the coach and to have to find a way to 378 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: get it done. But the Patriots, man, the Patriots are 379 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: masters of ugly ball. They it doesn't matter what it 380 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: looks like. They just find a way to have more 381 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: points than their opponent at the end of each game. 382 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: And everyone has been seeing the praise as a Drake mate, 383 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: and rightfully so, because the second you play is playing 384 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: his tail efficient effective. He and Josh McDaniels have found 385 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: that connection. I just think the job that Mike Rabele 386 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: has done with the entire team, the way that they've 387 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: embraced complimentary ball, offense, defense, special teams working together. To me, 388 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: they're hard out whether they're on the road or at home, 389 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: they can find a way to get dubs. 390 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: The most impressive thing to me about Drake is he 391 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 2: has not been sped up. Doesn't matter you know what 392 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: you see defensively, He's been able to play with it, 393 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: you know, with tremendous poise, hasn't got frazzled. Now, this defense, 394 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 2: that's what they major in. They're going to try and 395 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: heat you up and speed you up. So can he 396 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 2: still maintain that poise and calm and delivered dimes like 397 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: he's done all year long. That's my that's my absolute 398 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: favorite game of this weekend. A couple more big, huge 399 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 2: game in the in the NFC West. The Niners have 400 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: held it together. At six and three, they bring in 401 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 2: the Rams at six and two. That's a great rivalry game. 402 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: This is kind of a little bit of a separation 403 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: weekend in the NFC this week. 404 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is is because their rivalry that you speak 405 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: on right there, the Niners in the Rams, bitter rivalry. 406 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: These teams are mirrors, like you see your own reflection 407 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: when you're playing the other team. Their bullies on the block. 408 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: They pride themselves in the physicality and toughness. For me, 409 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: I want to see how the Rams get down because 410 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: the one thing that we know about the Niners, they've 411 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: been beat up, they don't have all their people. This 412 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: should be one where if the Rams are what we 413 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: think they are, this should be their opportunity to separate 414 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: and move away from the Niners with a very very 415 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: strong performance in a bitter rivalry game. 416 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: I want to see their D line against that Rams 417 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: O line, and that to me is going to decide 418 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: this football game is going to be a physical, physical game. 419 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: Cannot wait for that. I'm going to be their Sunday 420 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: night Chargers Steelers, Steelers five and three, Chargers six and 421 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: three Chargers. Man, you got two Pro Bowl tackles gone 422 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 2: for the season. 423 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: Just brutal. 424 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: They make the trade for Penning, We'll see if he 425 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: can get in the lineup and well those slot him in. 426 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: It sounds like they've been working them at both guard 427 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 2: and tackle. So they've had some other entries on that 428 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: offensive line, so they've got to configure out how they can. 429 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: But this is too This is going to be decided 430 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: simply buck. The Steelers pass rush can get home in 431 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: a hurry. Chargers have their issues with the offensive line, 432 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: but the Chargers can get the ball out to their weapons. 433 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: I don't think the Steelers can cover them. So to me, 434 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: it's can you get it to those guys before you 435 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: get hit in the back of the head. 436 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's the thing. 437 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: And as the Steelers are transitioning from all the men 438 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: the man back to morzone with Jayalen Ramsey back deep 439 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: and some of these other things, they're gonna be some 440 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: opportunities for the Chargers to make some plays on catch 441 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: and run concepts and it comes down to tackling and 442 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: tackling in space. The Steelers are a bit of a 443 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: disappointment early because we talked about this being a shut 444 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: them down defense all I mean, like just a defense 445 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: that we're going to celebrate the number of Hall of 446 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: Famers that they had on it. It didn't start out 447 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: like that, but the moves that they're subtly making could 448 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: get them back on track. For the Charges, it's the 449 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: same thing every week. It's about taking care of the ball. 450 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: At some point. We've got to be able to run 451 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: the ball when in the stadium knows that you're running it, 452 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: and can we find enough big plays in the passing 453 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: game to put the points on the board that you're 454 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: gonna need to me the magic number agets the Steelers 455 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: is twenty four. I think they're hard for us to 456 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: get above twenty four. Just charges somehow can get to 457 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: twenty four or more. He has the charges went. 458 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 2: All yeah, Charge gotta a little better. Special teams too. 459 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: Gave a punt return touchdown last week. We've got to 460 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 2: clean that up against the Pittsburgh Steelers. 461 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: Last one. 462 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: We've got a great one between the Eagles and the Packers. Packers. 463 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: I always love the tie there because it just looks 464 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: so weird on the paper. But Eagles six and two, 465 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: Packers five to two and one, what are you looking 466 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: four to in that one? 467 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: To see which version of the Packers is going to 468 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 3: show up? 469 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: Because the Packers to me, are the most perplexing team 470 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: to follow, because you see in one week and they 471 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: looked like they're Super Bowl favorites that should beat in 472 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: the mixed Michael Parsons and that young talented crew on 473 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: defense getting it done, and then the next week they 474 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: drop one. So I'm just curious to see which one 475 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: shows up. This is a huge game, a lot of implications, 476 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: a lot of those things. And if you're the Eagles 477 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: and our friend to show how he wrote Howie Roseman, 478 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: who does a great job of always checking on every 479 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: trade that is possibly available. Man, this is an upgraded 480 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: roster getting ready for a run. And you can feel 481 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: when the Eagles are gearing up because offensively they narrative focus, 482 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: they make to keep the main thing the main thing, 483 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: and they just find ways to get wins. 484 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: This is a tough game for the Green Beer Packers. 485 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: Jalen Phillips uh excited to see what he looks like 486 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: in that in that eagle defense. By the way, just 487 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: as a just as an experiment which I knew was 488 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: going to happen. I called Howie on cutdown day because 489 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: I was like, I know he won't answer, but I 490 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: just want to confirm he didn't send me to voicemail though. 491 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 2: He just let it was. 492 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 3: He was kind. He just let it. 493 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: He just let it run its course and just sent 494 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: me right the voicemail. 495 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean he had he had, he had 496 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: stuff that he was working on. He was trying to 497 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: pud another big trade. It's his time. It's his time, 498 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: all right. This has been a fun one, man. I 499 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed that. Fascinating uh to look into 500 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: former players or even current players and what. 501 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: They would look like as head coach is good idea, 502 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: bad idea. I just think it's fascinating conversation and a 503 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: chance to look at some of these ball games again. 504 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: Would encourage you. If you haven't go back, look up 505 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: the episode with Andrew Luck. Knock that one out, knock 506 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 2: out the one with Luke Keigley. You can knock them 507 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: both out under an hour. I think you'll enjoy those 508 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: two conversations. All right, that'll do us for us. We 509 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: will see you next time, right here on movie sticks.