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Speaker 1: What is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to the season

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Speaker 1: preview episode of the Mets Up Podcast. We are super

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Speaker 1: excited real baseball is being played this Thursday against the

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Speaker 1: Miami Marlins in Florida, which is something that I've said,

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Speaker 1: I think like ten times now throughout spring training. But

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Speaker 1: we're keeping it on brand, on point to talk about

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Speaker 1: the Mets. We're going to preview everything with this team,

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Speaker 1: from decisions of guys being sent up and down, who's

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Speaker 1: gonna be at every position, the bullpen, the starting rotation,

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Speaker 1: and we're also gonna give you a season preview of

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Speaker 1: the opening day series against the Marlins. So we hope

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Speaker 1: you guys enjoy it, hope you stick around, give it

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Speaker 1: first episode in a while back at Cityfield. How we

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Speaker 1: feeling Yeah, very long time. Also a new location. We're

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Speaker 1: on site at Caesars Club. You guys can see. No.

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Speaker 2: As we go through the year, we're gonna be recording

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Speaker 2: in many different locations, as you guys Knowice, So just

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Speaker 2: another notching the bell for us.

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Speaker 1: Of course, So we're gonna we're gonna mark them all

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Speaker 1: off by the end of the twenty twenty three season hopefully.

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Speaker 1: I feel like to start this episode, we have to

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Speaker 1: talk about the big decision that was made, which was

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Speaker 1: sending Brett Bady and Mark Viento's down to Triple A.

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Speaker 1: This is a decision that is, I guess we could

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Speaker 1: say caused outrage maybe amongst some Mets fans blah yeah, hoopla.

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Speaker 1: I think coopla has a much better word. People weren't happy,

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Speaker 1: especially seeing guys like Jordan Walker and Anthony Volpi get

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Speaker 1: called up oscar co loss as well with the Chicago

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Speaker 1: White Sox. I don't know, what do you feel about

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Speaker 1: the decision about Baby and Vientos starting the year down.

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Speaker 2: I think this was kind of a broader conversation because

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Speaker 2: when this happened a couple of days ago, the final

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Speaker 2: roster spot had not really to come into view yet.

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Speaker 1: And I guess technically, when we're recording, we don't know

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Speaker 1: the official final spots. We've seen some moves that happen.

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Speaker 2: We know the final position player spot, and we'll go

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Speaker 2: to Tim Lacastro. And I think there was a lot

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Speaker 2: of outrage because one player who has now been defaded

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Speaker 2: by the Mets, Darren Ruff, kind of became this image,

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Speaker 2: this scapegoat for a lot of Mets fans, for the

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Speaker 2: way a second half win last year, the trade deadline,

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Speaker 2: the way the season ended itself, just the fact that

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Speaker 2: there was a player brought in the hit who wasn't

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Speaker 2: hitting one hundred percent. So I think the fact that

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Speaker 2: the Mets saw two guys in the spring training who

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Speaker 2: for a while hit very well, who have a lot

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Speaker 2: of potential, who've been champions by us, the organization, by everybody,

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Speaker 2: by prospect junkies, seeing them go down for players who

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Speaker 2: they thought were lesser to stay up, I think that

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Speaker 2: did make a lot of people upset when it did

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Speaker 2: happen that moment.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I think if the rough DFA had

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Speaker 1: been announced before, I think people would still be upset

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Speaker 1: because everyone it comes from a good spot. I feel

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Speaker 1: like if everybody likes Brett Bady at Mark Fienzos and

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Speaker 1: wants to see these young players play because they think

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Speaker 1: they're very capable and very good, I think it probably

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Speaker 1: would have calmed it down a little bit. I think

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Speaker 1: people would still be upset, and to be fair, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I really wanted to see Beaty on this roster. Vieno's

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Speaker 1: I still think needs a little bit more seasoning. But

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Speaker 1: I got with Bret Baty. I know towards the end

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Speaker 1: of spring, he kind of slowed down a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but the way he started to spring, the way he

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Speaker 1: came out of camp, I mean, the dude was blazing hot.

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Speaker 1: We've seen him play already at the major league level.

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Speaker 1: He's just a professional hitter, super super good. His time

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Speaker 1: will come. It's just the Mets are saying not not yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that is part of it too,

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Speaker 2: Like we have the exposure that Brett Bay Brebley was

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Speaker 2: the first round pick, and this conversation I think is

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Speaker 2: more about Brett Bay than Mark Vento's. Bay got the

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Speaker 2: caller Vanto's last year baby has some better numbers, some

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Speaker 2: better pedigree from the minor league.

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Speaker 1: So I think this was the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Bay is also a much more I'd say Bay's probably

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Speaker 2: better at their basement overall, too, and that's the place

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Speaker 2: where it seemed like there could be a fit. But

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Speaker 2: spring training for prospects is about forcing hands. And while

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Speaker 2: Bay and Vano's came out blazing hot in the spring,

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Speaker 2: we did see each of them social baby like tail

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Speaker 2: off a little bit as the weeks kept rolling on.

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Speaker 2: Brett Bailey was two for his last seventeen in spring training.

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Speaker 2: Bet Bay's ground ball problem came back a little bit

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Speaker 2: less couple weeks of spring training. It's and Brett Bay

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Speaker 2: came up last year. He had that home run first

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Speaker 2: and he kind of really tiled off. He struggled against

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Speaker 2: major league pitching. He was hitting the ball in the

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Speaker 2: ground a lot. These are the things that are like

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Speaker 2: the nippicky problems for a top prospect trying to make

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Speaker 2: that one last jump. And everyone will tell you that

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Speaker 2: the biggest jump in all sports is getting from the

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Speaker 2: minor leagues to the major league.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna see much more of loss, You're gonna see

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Speaker 2: a better curveball your first day in the major leagues.

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Speaker 2: And you've ever seen the minor leagues, Yes, unless you

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Speaker 2: saw one freak pitcher one stop here or another. So

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Speaker 2: I don't really think it's that crazy, especially when you

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Speaker 2: look at the last couple weeks of ret bathing and

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Speaker 2: you saw of all the games the Mets played in

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Speaker 2: front of cameras, he only had two hard hit balls

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Speaker 2: after hitting the cover off the ball for the first

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Speaker 2: three weeks of camp. So it's not that crazy when

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Speaker 2: you really look at this from the whole purview. A

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Speaker 2: lot of Mets fans kind of like stuck to this

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Speaker 2: narrative that they held on from last week February, first

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Speaker 2: pick of March and now are very upset just because

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Speaker 2: you know we're getting too the season.

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Speaker 1: We gotta upset about something hundred percent. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: we're Mets fans too. We know that we're still gonna

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Speaker 1: be upset about it a ton of things throughout the year.

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Speaker 1: That's just how baseball goes, especially as a Mets fan.

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Speaker 1: But I think initial reaction understandable. I think from the

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Speaker 1: outside perspective, like you said, when you think about it

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Speaker 1: more you see the numbers, you can start to see

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Speaker 1: the reasoning behind it. And one thing you told me too,

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Speaker 1: was about first round picks out of high school who

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Speaker 1: have played third base, the amount of innings that they

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Speaker 1: have in the minor leagues before they made it to

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Speaker 1: the majors. So what Nolan Ernado, Manny Machado, just to

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Speaker 1: name a couple guys, his numbers aren't even necessarily I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say aren't close, but he's catching up

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Speaker 2: But Brett Bay had played less games in the minor

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Speaker 2: league as a player who was signed out of high

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling up right here.

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Speaker 2: I sent it to you last night and I said,

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Speaker 2: let's not send any more dms to each other right now,

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Speaker 2: because I want to hand you for the episode.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it will be towards the top of our dms

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: And this is the exact reason the last thing was

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Speaker 2: an Ethan Solas.

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Speaker 1: I was there. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, And this is also quote from Billy Eepler saying, like,

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Speaker 2: why Brepe is going to be in the minor leagues right

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Speaker 2: than the major leagues? And he said, you look back

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Speaker 2: a little bit of players like Nolan Arnado. Nolan was

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Speaker 2: a high school draft pick just like Brett, and you

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Speaker 2: played over four hundred games at third base in the minors,

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Speaker 2: Raphael Devers three hundred and ten, Austin Riley four hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty, just continuing to get tested different game situations,

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Speaker 2: learning the speed, learning when to give ground, went to

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Speaker 2: take ground, just being put in different type of situations, circumstances,

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Speaker 1: And I like that he said the speed too, because

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Speaker 1: I think that's something that gets underappreciated, is a difference

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Speaker 1: in speed as well, from the Triple A game to

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Speaker 1: the major league game. That's why you see some of

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Speaker 1: these prospects who just crush at the Triple A level

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Speaker 1: or dominate at whatever at Double A. It is that

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Speaker 1: there is an adjustment period. And for a guy like

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Speaker 1: Brett Bady, who has played a Triple A but doesn't

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Speaker 1: have that much experienperience there. He had a lot of,

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Speaker 1: you know, good experience last year at third base, but

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Speaker 1: you could see sometimes the game moved a little bit quick.

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Speaker 1: So I think this is an acclamation period as well

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Speaker 1: as the fact that like it's not a necessity just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and those like microseconds when you're handling a ball

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Speaker 2: the first. That is a lot of times the major

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Speaker 2: league's difference between a fight percent out and the minor

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Speaker 2: hitting as hard, so it's much easier to get in

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Speaker 2: a more favorful part of your glove, transfers more calm,

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Speaker 2: maybe the player is now as good of an athlete. Besides,

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Speaker 2: for the very few minor leaguers that come through, you

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Speaker 2: think of like the top prospects were the freak athletes,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest. When the decision came out, I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't like this. I want him here. We also

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Speaker 1: thought that Darren Roff was going to be on the

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Speaker 1: major league roster opening day. That spot didn't necessarily make

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Speaker 1: as much sense to give to him as a guy

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Speaker 1: like Brett Baidy. In my opinion, at least now that

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Speaker 1: we know Darren Ruff got dedfade, I feel a little

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Speaker 1: bit calmer, I would say about this entire thing. And

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Speaker 1: I can see the vision. I don't think there's much

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Speaker 1: else that we can really talk about here with this,

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Speaker 1: because you're either on one side of the coin or

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Speaker 1: the other. You either think that he should be here

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Speaker 1: right now playing third base every single day or at

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Speaker 1: least making the open day roster, or you're okay with

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Speaker 1: the decision. I think right now, I'm okay with it,

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Speaker 1: but I want him up soon because I think he's close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when we played roster Bingo a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: and we looked at who was gonna be on this bench.

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Speaker 2: Every team, when you're gonnaok at the rosters, what prospects

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Speaker 2: gonna make opening day rosters, you have to build a bench. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's part of it. And you saw the way the

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Speaker 2: bench was lining up. Garman is the backup infielder. Tom

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Speaker 2: Most major league benches now only have four guys yep,

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Speaker 2: sat least one spot.

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Speaker 1: You have Brett Baby, who, while he.

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Speaker 2: Was really good at the beginning of the spring, tailed

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Speaker 2: off the end and has options. Mark Viento had options,

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Speaker 2: And you were looking at two players, Tim Lecastro and

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Speaker 2: Darren Roff. Those were guys where they didn't have options.

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Speaker 2: If you were to lose them, you would lose them forever.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I think a little bit of this

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Speaker 2: is game theory as well. And we had to end

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Speaker 2: up taking Lacastro, who showed that in the spring, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: limits of all rules and all thing all ways to

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Speaker 2: get edges in baseball. So it seemed like they were

434
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Speaker 2: just not listening to the shifts rule. Like they had

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Speaker 2: their short stop directly over the second base bag, like

436
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Speaker 2: with a foot on the other side, playing straight up

437
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Speaker 2: up the middle, which is technically not allowed anymore. And

438
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Speaker 2: as this was happening, Francisco Lindor pointed out and he

439
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Speaker 2: stood in the exact same spot, and that like it yea,

440
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Speaker 2: I like it might not even been a plan for

441
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Speaker 2: the Mets all, just him basically showing that someone's gonna

442
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Speaker 2: cheat work.

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Speaker 1: Going cheat as well. Listen, I respect it, I respect

444
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Speaker 1: the games of a ship, like you said, And I

445
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Speaker 1: think his defense without the shift is going to be

446
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Speaker 1: even more valuable this year because he's got such good range.

447
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Speaker 1: And we've also heard about him being super excited to

448
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Speaker 1: show that off again, just being like I'm excited to

449
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Speaker 1: make plays everywhere. And he's got some of the best

450
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Speaker 1: range of baseball. So we have on our other guys

451
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Speaker 1: in the line. We didn't get to mention Mark Canna.

452
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Speaker 1: Dude just gets on base. It's his job. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: get by thirty five pitches again this year, whatever it

454
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Speaker 1: is multiple in spring. Mark Hanna's boring, we know it,

455
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Speaker 1: but boy does he get on base. He has plays

456
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Speaker 1: good defense, gonna hit you a couple home runs. He

457
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Speaker 1: just does the little things that this team kind of needs,

458
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Speaker 1: sort of the bottom of the order. Same thing with

459
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Speaker 1: a guy like Eduardo Escobar, cultivator of vibes, his right

460
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Speaker 1: handed swing. Absolutely love it. I'd love to see him

461
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Speaker 1: only swing right handed if it was possible. But he's

462
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Speaker 1: just he's smacking the ball around as always, and when

463
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Speaker 1: he's hot, he is scalding hot. We saw what he

464
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Speaker 1: did towards the end of the year last year. He

465
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Speaker 1: really did help us out in that last month.

466
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Speaker 2: It is kind of funny you think about Escobar like that,

467
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Speaker 2: and we said this nauseum last year and people were

468
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Speaker 2: kind of on you not used the bar experience, yes,

469
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Speaker 2: being just.

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Speaker 1: People watching all basesco bombs. Fantasy baseball player, you know

471
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Speaker 1: that when the Westcbar hits it, he hits him. He's

472
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Speaker 1: not he just won't. Yeah, So just understanding that they

473
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Speaker 1: had Wardo west Cobar path to a one oh five

474
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Speaker 1: WRC plus is not linear. You're not just hanging out

475
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Speaker 1: of the one spot the whole year. You go up

476
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Speaker 1: and you go down down. Yeah, And I kind of

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Speaker 1: like that more as a guy who's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna have one month as an electric one seventy WRC

479
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Speaker 2: plus hit one of the best there's in the whole sport,

480
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Speaker 2: and then six weeks not really gonna do much. Sorry,

481
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Speaker 2: that's okay, take that time off, relax, recede, and then

482
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Speaker 2: come back power fault, because that is going to be

483
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Speaker 2: trying to just look at this Mets roster right now,

484
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Speaker 2: like where are going to be the points of like

485
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Speaker 2: people are going to talk about, people are gonna think

486
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Speaker 2: about their bases.

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Speaker 1: One thing, yes, one hundred percent. I mean we talked

488
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Speaker 1: about Betty for the first ten minutes on the podcast,

489
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Speaker 1: so I think everybody knows that. Another one that people

490
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Speaker 1: like to talk about to is Vogue. But I mean

491
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Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is Voguey's a dog. The

492
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Speaker 1: dude absolutely mashes, especially against right hand and pitching. I

493
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Speaker 1: don't understand the negativity necessarily around him, sometimes from some

494
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Speaker 1: Mets fans, not all. I think a lot of people

495
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Speaker 1: who are baseball fans understand that the dude is a

496
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Speaker 1: lead against right hand and pitching. Yeah, he's like got

497
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Speaker 1: like the top ten wrc plus against righty since twenty

498
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Speaker 1: nineteen among all major league hitters. I mean, I'm talking

499
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Speaker 1: like Mookie Betsy had a better WRC plus then, like

500
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Speaker 1: some of the best hitters in baseball against righty's gounda

501
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Speaker 1: crush against leftist. We still have to figure that out

502
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Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe an improvement, but at d H

503
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Speaker 1: there's not. There's not really many better options the Mets

504
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Speaker 1: could have had, and a lot of that is fueled

505
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Speaker 1: by just his incredible eye. Like there's so few people

506
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Speaker 1: in baseball who just are as selective as Daniel wolgeback

507
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Speaker 1: at the plate, like he will not expand the strike zone,

508
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Speaker 1: he will not swing and pitch. He can't hit, so

509
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Speaker 1: he just he likes to make pictures.

510
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Speaker 2: Pitchers work anyway, we should know how valuable it is

511
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Speaker 2: in a baseball season over the course of one hundred

512
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Speaker 2: sixty two and even the three game series. Just get

513
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Speaker 2: into the sixth, seventh, eight guys in teams, bullpen by

514
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Speaker 2: Sunday and boggle Beck does that well. And I do

515
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Speaker 2: think now with Darren rough News that his platoon mate

516
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Speaker 2: at designated hither is now officially Tommy Fam.

517
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Speaker 1: Probably.

518
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Tommy Fam showed them as something in the spring.

519
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Speaker 2: Batting average wasn't that good, but he wasn't in the

520
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Speaker 2: ball hard, and that that is that is how you

521
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Speaker 2: hit well. Like you keep hitting the ball hard, then

522
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Speaker 2: good things are going to happen. You know, Tommy FAM's

523
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Speaker 2: only a few years of move from having a very

524
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Speaker 2: good season. He's a guy who's again he still hits

525
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Speaker 2: the ball hard, He's still physically he's still physically pretty good.

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Speaker 2: And this is going to be a situation where now

527
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Speaker 2: almost pretty much against every single lefty, he is going

528
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Speaker 2: to be in the lineup, oh, without a doubt.

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Speaker 1: And I think so.

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Speaker 2: And that's gonna be a situation also because he's still

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Speaker 2: a fine fielder in the corner outfield. So we're gonna

532
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Speaker 2: have a little probably rotation. Get Candi, some DA reps,

533
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Speaker 2: get Martes, some.

534
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Speaker 1: DA traps, ci Alonso, some d reps give him a

535
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Speaker 1: day off to dou plays one hundred and sixty every

536
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Speaker 1: year San Francisco Indoor. Probably he just doesn't like taking

537
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Speaker 1: days off, but maybe'd be nice to take one or two.

538
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Speaker 1: Of course, it's no days off. Bill Belichick, the Goat,

539
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Speaker 1: Jeffy Neale, get a couple days. Get your army out

540
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Speaker 1: there second base. Geck your army over there at their base. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 1: we have a lot of manoeuvering with this roster that

542
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Speaker 1: we have the ability to do. Now. I think the offense,

543
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Speaker 1: it was one of the best offenses in baseball last year.

544
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Speaker 1: I expect nothing less than being an elite offense again.

545
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Speaker 1: The lineup's just fantastic. And then on the pitching side,

546
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Speaker 1: which and this is really what we start to get

547
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Speaker 1: into the DP study here. Yeah, you guys know we

548
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Speaker 1: love to talk pitching here, especially James. I mean, a

549
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Speaker 1: rotation of Justin Verlander, Max Schurzer, David Peterson, Code I Sanga,

550
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Speaker 1: Carlos Carrasco is pretty good one through five and that

551
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Speaker 1: came with an injury too, and it still looks great,

552
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 1: which goes back again to our just what we like

553
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 1: to bang the drum on all year long depth depth, depth, depth,

554
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Speaker 1: and the Mets got it. It is amazing with this five,

555
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Speaker 1: like how it actually looks on paper, that's a great season,

556
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Speaker 1: Like as far as like a one through five rating,

557
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Speaker 1: Like it's kind of hard to look at a team

558
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Speaker 1: baseball and say, oh, yeah, that team is better than

559
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Speaker 1: this one. Really yeah, Like the Yankees were probably the

560
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Speaker 1: closest team and they had like three guys go down

561
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Speaker 1: with injury recently, so it's like and like McGill's and

562
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Speaker 1: the miners waiting stretching out Definitely, that's probably why he's

563
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,920
Speaker 1: down there, is just wretch out and get more innings

564
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Speaker 1: underneath his belt and not even stretch out just like

565
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Speaker 1: maintain a star's workload. Like, yeah, that's clearly made decision.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of that did have to do

567
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Speaker 2: also with those like ton of injury that sure we

568
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Speaker 2: need you with star of their depth right now. Yes,

569
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Speaker 2: perhaps there's the situation later in the season postseason where

570
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Speaker 2: maybe he is more valuable as a reliever, that's possible,

571
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Speaker 2: but right now he seems like he is the sixth

572
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Speaker 2: starred percent and we all know based on how last

573
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Speaker 2: season went how important your six star there is in

574
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Speaker 2: any baseball team. You look around, you're seven starters important,

575
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Speaker 2: seven stars incredibly important. Your astar is pretty important. Like

576
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Speaker 2: you look around the division right now talking about six starters.

577
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Speaker 2: Who's the Philly six stars? What Christopher Sanchez?

578
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the only six starter I might be

579
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Speaker 1: able to name is on the Marlins. Yeah, I think

580
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Speaker 1: that might be the only six starter I can Bley

581
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Speaker 1: Braxon Garrett or Trevor Rodgers tomorrow and series preview in

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Speaker 1: a second, as we start to get ready for the

583
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Speaker 1: you know, the regular season cadence of the show. But

584
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Speaker 1: we're even looking at the Alanta Braves or direct rival

585
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Speaker 1: seem is gonna be our highest competition for the division.

586
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Speaker 1: They're rolling two rookies down their oping derotation in there,

587
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Speaker 1: five between Dylan Dodd and Jared Schuster. You know who

588
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Speaker 1: the Phillies five is right now? I think I saw

589
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Speaker 1: in fanographs as Michael Plasmyer. I don't, I legitimately don't

590
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Speaker 1: know who that guy is. That's a great and play

591
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Speaker 1: day Falter's the four. Yeah, Like they lost Kyle Gibson,

592
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Speaker 1: huge loss. It was a huge loss for those innings.

593
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Speaker 1: Like the Mets really do have such a good starting rotation.

594
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: It starts with the big names up top in Verlander

595
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Speaker 1: and Sures. We need to tell you about them, you

596
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 1: know how good they are. Sures are looks sick in

597
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Speaker 1: his last start. Code I Sang is obviously like kind

598
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 1: of the question mark, but not for necessarily bad reasons.

599
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Speaker 1: Just he's a little bit unknown. But from what we've seen,

600
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Speaker 1: the stuff is there for sure, and I'm really excited

601
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Speaker 1: to see him like actually pitching meaningful games.

602
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Speaker 2: The stuff is super there. But I also do want

603
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 2: Mets fans have to get ready. For sure, there's gonna

604
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 2: be a major learning curve for Code Sang. Japan used

605
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 2: a different ball. It's smaller, there mounds, a different height.

606
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 2: They pitch on different days of rest, Like this is

607
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Speaker 2: all gonna be very different. He also Japanese says aren't

608
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Speaker 2: as useful lots.

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Speaker 1: He's major like kickers.

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Speaker 2: So how he was able to get away with certain

611
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Speaker 2: things with his fastball in Japan probably will not be

612
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Speaker 2: happening in America. So I think this first like six

613
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Speaker 2: seven starts of core that Sanger, We're gonna see very

614
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Speaker 2: high highs and very low lows. We're gonna see maybe

615
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Speaker 2: some games where his control is not there's maybe some

616
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Speaker 2: games where it's perfect. Command isn't something that's really sticky,

617
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Speaker 2: starts to start even week to week, month a month,

618
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Speaker 2: So that's something that's gonna be a little more variable

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Speaker 2: for Code Sang. And I do want to caution Mets fans.

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Speaker 2: Give him, give him rope. He's gonna be He's learning

621
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Speaker 2: a new language, learning a new.

622
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Speaker 1: Culture, a new playing in a new country, new ball,

623
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Speaker 1: new mound, new days of real family, like seemingly around

624
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Speaker 1: like it's it's gonna be tough. He's here for the

625
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 1: long haul. Yeah, five years of Code ice Anga year one.

626
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Speaker 1: If he's awesome, that'd be really that'd be, I mean

627
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Speaker 1: even better, just amazing. But we take things slowly with

628
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Speaker 1: the Code ICEINGA. We're not putting all this pressure on

629
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Speaker 1: him from the start. I don't think the Mets are either.

630
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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be very smart about it. Just

631
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Speaker 1: just keep an eye and everything with a grain of salt.

632
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Speaker 1: Literally every single thing that he does is s you're

633
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Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. Although you'll probably hear us

634
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Speaker 1: at some point after he throws like seven and strikes

635
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Speaker 1: out twelve, where I'm like this is the best picture

636
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Speaker 1: in baseball? What are we talking about?

637
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Speaker 2: The upside is there, but just this is gonna be

638
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Speaker 2: a situation where I like, it's just there's gonna be

639
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: high highs and lo lows. Sure, so does everyone be

640
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Speaker 2: ready for that? He's gonna be a very various a

641
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Speaker 2: lot of variance. Yes, that's gonna be the word for

642
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Speaker 2: kais aga. Various variance, high variance picture. Yes, mercurial, mercurial, Yeah,

643
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Speaker 2: that too, he's a mercurial guy.

644
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just from like talking him a little bit. And

645
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Speaker 1: then in the bullpen, obviously we have to fill the

646
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Speaker 1: edwin Chs sized hole, which is unfortunate because it was

647
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Speaker 1: really nice in the ninth inning every game that we

648
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: were winning that it was over and know about it,

649
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: no one even put the ball in play. It was

650
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: you walk there, you shruck out. That was kind of

651
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: what it was. That being said, though we did make moves,

652
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: we did make improvements bullpen, getting a guy like David

653
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: Robertson who has that New York closer experience and just nineth.

654
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: Thenning experience in general. Yeah, having ninth thening experience is

655
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: really important. Again, we always say things like you can

656
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 2: pitch any in and get the three houts, but there

657
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: is something in the mental aspect of pitching a nine

658
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: percent and the.

659
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: Report has happen. Asking David Robinson a lot about that.

660
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: Everyone's been asking David Robertson. He's like, I had the experience.

661
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: They they're gonna Pittu whever they needed me. It does

662
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: feel like there is momentum towards him having maybe a

663
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: possibly larger share of the ninth inning role heading into

664
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Speaker 1: the season. Fantasy Baseball, the first fab run ran this weekend,

665
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: the you know, some of the High Stakes League and NFDC,

666
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: the main event. David Robinson was going for twenty five

667
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: thirty percent of Peach people's full season budgets just to

668
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: get those saves on deck.

669
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: So it does seem like there are there is a

670
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: thought out there that he is going to be more

671
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: more of a closer. I can call anyone a closer.

672
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 2: These are all weapons.

673
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I mean in a perfect bullpen, you have

674
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: no closers. No, that's really how you you know, I

675
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: kind of operate here. Adam out of Vino as well,

676
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: be getting some of those innings too late in the game. Yeah, Mark,

677
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: Mark's uh, Adam out of Vino late in the games

678
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: as well. We saw him last year get some saves

679
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: just in days when Edward he has needed a day off.

680
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: So long he's coming into kid Cuddy again. Yeah, I mean,

681
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that it isn't a year. Yeah, they

682
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: can change all that. Well, that's that's an old school

683
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: kid cutty. That's a deep cut of kid cutty. That's

684
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: not even one of the popular ones. So when we

685
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: asked them last year, it's fare of music. I think

686
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: he said low five. So, yeah, you can't walk in

687
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: with that high pressures to joys. You know what, I

688
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: guess I probably should just never expect anything to like,

689
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: never expect the same from Adam Onnovino. He's a funky dude.

690
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: And we put out that Drew Smith interview, Who's another

691
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: guy W's gonna be in the bullpen? And you talked

692
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: about how much Adam Outavino has helped him out with

693
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: his slider, and just like how Ottavino's a veteran, he's

694
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: got the experience and that's something that this bullpen for

695
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: sure has, which is something that usually a lot of

696
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: bullpens don't in major League Baseball. You don't have the experience.

697
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: And I think that's a huge, huge plus for the Mets.

698
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: Adam Ounavino. Drew Smith even is now a veteran, which

699
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: feels crazy to say that Drew Chains is, but he's

700
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 1: like thirty years old. Brooks Raley's got the experience. Tommy

701
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: Hunter our boy, so super happy that made it. Tommy Tommy,

702
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: He's just one of the nicest guys ever, and he

703
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: had a great spring. He's a beast. Uh Like, there's

704
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: a lot of experience in this bullpen. So while you

705
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: can feel shaky that Edwin dis isn't here, I think

706
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: that's completely fair and justified. They're gonna be okay. Yes,

707
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: it's still baseball at the end of the day. I

708
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: mean it is real, Like you lost the best closer

709
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: in baseball. Yes, this bullpen went from being one of

710
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: the five best in baseballs now middle of the road.

711
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: You know what, if a Mets fan is gonna blow

712
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: their top over middle of the road bullpen, that just

713
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: shows how far we've come as an organizations. I mean,

714
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: Jerry Simili in twenty fifteen, did he start the year

715
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: as a closer like the carlock on the first save

716
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: that year? He came out of nowhere like just John's

717
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,239
Speaker 1: favorite stat Yeah literally, but like again, so much more

718
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: can developed by this bullpen. Brooks rarely could walk out

719
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: and just be completely lights out. Yeah, like he can

720
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: wind up being like one of the most high levelge believers.

721
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: Get a dozen saves, bmd O, Bryce Montes Steoca whenever

722
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: he comes back. I mean that dude's got fireball stuff.

723
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: Your boy bade, But we're getting already got sent down. No,

724
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: It's okay, had the options. We knew this was this

725
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: was the potential. He was also being stretched out a

726
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: little bit towards the end of Spring talked about that

727
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: last episode. So we already know that roll. Jeff Bergen's

728
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: gonna and honestly not really that important right now and important.

729
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: Stephen Riding's picked up injuries. Sam Kunrod like, we have

730
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: a lot of guys we're gonna filter into his bullpen.

731
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: Say it with us, guys, depth depth, depth, depth. We

732
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: absolutely love it. And I feel like this is a

733
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: perfect way for us to segue right into the games

734
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: that do matter. Oh, you got something, I think before

735
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: we segue, and we should just talk about you know,

736
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: we'll get people preview for the contents and can be

737
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: rolling out.

738
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Speaker 1: Sure, hit us hit us. We we've spent the entire

739
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: days to the field.

740
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: Today we recorded the estimate culmination, the final We can't

741
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: reveal you guys who won yet, but one of us

742
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: between Mark and I, is going to be wearing a

743
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 2: tuxedo on opening day. So make sure you find whoever

744
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: it is and you take lots of pictures and post

745
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: on social media because and it's gonna be It's gonna

746
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: be awesome. It's also gonna be potential for possibly some

747
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, episode of that we remember recording

748
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: on opening day at the stadium. Maybe some content, maybe

749
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: some stuff with the seven line, maybe some special guests.

750
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 2: We're not really sure exactly. Yeah, we're gonna work those

751
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: kinks out after this episode today, but that's gonna be

752
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: a big content. We're also today helping us with the

753
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: estimate was Matt Ravola USC fither Long Island Legend, massive

754
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: Mets fan fighting in the octagon at the Prudential Center

755
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: May six, or May I may say, Mix sixth UFC

756
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: two eighty eight, May six, UFC two eighty eight, So

757
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: keep an eye off for that great interview with him

758
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: is gonna be coming out soon. We just we're just

759
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: friends with him now, so we're gonna see him in

760
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 2: the ballpark. Hopefully cool will kind of we're gonna we're

761
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: gonna be rolling around with somebody who can, you know.

762
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: Have our backs. Let's let's get ready to roll off,

763
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: break off the rust. It's the first series preview of

764
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: the season. Opening days here Mets versus Marlins in Miami.

765
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: Shout out to Florida.

766
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: Mark, We miss a Florida. Mar spent like a month

767
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: in Florida, which is kind of crazy. You can see

768
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: if Florida Mark was born. Just this year, between him

769
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: going hanging out with family, us going to spring training

770
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: and him spending two full.

771
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: Weeks at WBC, Mark is officially a Florida man. Yeah.

772
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm gonna be a Florida man

773
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: for sure. I think I'm gonna be a snowbird next January.

774
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: I think we spending probably all my time somewhere warm.

775
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: I love the warmth, and you know what, I'm glad

776
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: the Mets are starting in the warmth, to in an

777
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: indoor controlled place, Lone Depot Park. My review, it's fine,

778
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: It's completely fine. I don't know. It's whatever there rob

779
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: baseball class it can be very different vibe. They had

780
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: some cool food. It's got to suck for Marlins games.

781
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: If it's fine for like the the most exciting games

782
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: they're ever gonna have. It's gonna suck for Marlins games.

783
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: But you know what, that's fine. Don't care because I

784
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: care about what's going on on the field. Max Scherzer

785
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: for Sandy a contra contra contra. We're trying to really

786
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: pronounce his name right uh for opening Day? Love that matchup.

787
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be you know, I don't want to say, like,

788
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what the right word is, but you're

789
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: having like clash of the Titans. Yeah, future, a future

790
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer versus a guy who's like won the

791
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: sty Young Award last year, is on a path to

792
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: get to a spot.

793
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: Two of the best pitchures on a baseball clearly know that,

794
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: and the fact we're gonna be down there first game

795
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: of the year. Just the opportunity sometimes when you play

796
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: not as good as a team an opening day and

797
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: the Marlins are okay team right now that they're gonna

798
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: be We're gonna walk to a roster and.

799
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna think, but they're gonna be pesty there.

800
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: There's there's something that you lose some of the luster

801
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: of opening day when there's a picture on the mound

802
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: that's you know, not an ace, yes, but the fact

803
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: that we're getting that, we're getting an asof right there.

804
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: It's really exciting. And Sandy Alkintar's contra contra Contra's uh

805
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: first like coming out of like being a great starting

806
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: pitcher was against the Mets in that all the way

807
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: back September nineteen. That was, yeah, I don't really want it.

808
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: That was when I graduated. I was actually coming back

809
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: from the Universus South Carolina after I graduated, and I

810
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: was listening to on the radio and I I was

811
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: screaming a little bit, a little upset about that one.

812
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: So it's funny my when I was leaving Ohio State

813
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: I stayed last year, but when I was driving back,

814
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: it was you'll hate this. It was the ROMs of

815
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: Cano through home run out. Gosh, that was the game

816
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: that was going on. When I was driving home, I

817
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: had a car full of stuff coming straight down the

818
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania Turnpike and how we Howie Rose was freaking out and.

819
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: Have disdained for him yet That's when he was still played. Yeah,

820
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: that was we had to try. That was the first

821
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: year we're giving it a shot. Yeah whatever, Then we

822
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: got Peterson. Game two was he going up against for

823
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: the Marlins. It was Hazel's bizarre Jesus Wizzardo. It's got

824
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: some really cool stuff, but he just doesn't really find

825
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: the strike zone often. You got anything else on.

826
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: Him, it's because that curveball slide. There's gonna be nuts.

827
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: He goes high velocity.

828
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: Hazelos Wizzar.

829
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: That was like the perfect guy that possibly break out

830
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: this year because he was set the break out of

831
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty and he got he got COVID pretty bad

832
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: and that sucked. And then he got traded right that

833
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: was in That was twenty twenty one. Yeah, when he

834
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: got for Starling Marte for sorry Marte. Interesting and then

835
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: he got it's kind of HARKing, you know, get your

836
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: footing the new team. He's battles some injuries here and there,

837
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: but like everything is kind of lining up for Hazelos

838
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 2: Cizzar though to have to have a real season this year.

839
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: Hopefully we derail that a little bit.

840
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: For sure, first start in terms of a limp that

841
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: has a chance to get him to see a lot

842
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 2: of pitches, make a lot of contacts, kind of opposite

843
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: the way Hazel Czzar that wants to go about a game.

844
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: So sure, happy about that. Justin Verlander going in Game

845
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 1: three up against Edward Edward Cabrera. Edward Cabrera, Oh, it's

846
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: Edward Edward. Really he wants that to be known. Yes, okay,

847
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: Edward Cabrera did not know that. I'm not a huge

848
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: Edward Edward Cabrera guy. I It's like he he has like.

849
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: The foundation being a really tremendous starting pitcher. He has

850
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: high lossity. He has one of the most unique pitches

851
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: in baseball. His change up that is like ninety three miles.

852
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's kind of like one of these

853
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: like in between things where it's not really a pitch

854
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: that has a thing that we know to say about,

855
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: but it's like it is technically a change up. He's

856
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: kind of Lozardo esque in that, like you don't really

857
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get, but it could be good.

858
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: But he doesn't have the breaking balls.

859
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: I would say Edward Cabrera has much better command than

860
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: Hazlosizzar though, but Hazelozzaro has that breaking ball that puts

861
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: him over the top. Okay, if wark O Brera just

862
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: walks out with Sly there, then yeah, then then we're scared. Yeah,

863
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: then we're looking at the guy who can really get

864
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: some people out MLB. The show players are terrified. So

865
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: he's also gonna make as frstrated against Justin Vorlander. Yeah,

866
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: that's that's that's the crassy place to start the year.

867
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: But we're okay with that, and and we got we

868
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: got a lot to watch this series. There's gonna be

869
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: four games series as well. We're starting Thursday ending Sunday,

870
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: planning every day in between, so good. Last game is

871
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: gonna be QoD I Sango Marles have not announced yet

872
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: based on the spring cadence, either gonna be Trevor Rodgers

873
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: or Braxton Garrett from what Johnny Guado maybe or Johnnyquado.

874
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: They're all in the rotation. We all know who's gonna

875
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: be yet, so that's gonna be someone there. But lots

876
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: lots to watch with these guys. Opening weekend, we're gonna

877
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: have David Pearson's gonna be very interesting to me. The

878
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 2: all mess fans should be very aware Peterson, how he's

879
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: mixing his pitches sinkers and fastballs, sliders and change ups,

880
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: and then just how many curveballs he's throwing, based on

881
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: how many's throwing in the spring, how many he goes

882
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: feels comfortable with once the regular season starts.

883
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: Every single every single fantasy thing that I'm doing the year,

884
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm grabbing David Peterson. Just this is this is the

885
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: big year for David. We got the Senga sweeper. What's

886
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: the fastball look like in a game with a little

887
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: bit more, you know, time underneath his belt? Sawing Marte's

888
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: health is obviously something that is super important. We saw

889
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: how good they were with him in the lineup. He's

890
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: a spark plug. Dude. Just gives you a lot of

891
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: energy at the top of the order. Aggressive. The base running,

892
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: of course, is really important, and the bullpen too. That's

893
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: a big thing to keep an eye out for. It's

894
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: gonna be very cool in this opening weekend.

895
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: We're gonna learn so much about every team baseball, and

896
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: now we're talking about the Mets, like who is gonna

897
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: be used when and why? Like the first big crazy

898
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: situation two men on seventh inning, who comes in.

899
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: Bucks management of the bullpen too, like even like who

900
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: he goes to maybe he changes it up, maybe it's

901
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: more of a fluid thing. That's absolutely like the whether

902
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: or not Brooks Raley's used as a guy to get

903
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: left he's out or is a guy who was like

904
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: a high leverage option. Just these little tiny little points

905
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: of things we love. Yeah, this is We're gonna learn

906
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: so much this weekend about how the Mets are gonna

907
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: run this basically this bullpen for months on end. Like

908
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: this is gonna be so cool to get this information.

909
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: Some new Marlins for you guys to keep an eye

910
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: out for, because of course it's the first time we're

911
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: playing this year. They got some new names in that

912
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: pesky I won't curse, so Vito doesn't have to bleep it.

913
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: But that rat Jean Sigura has found his way to

914
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: stay in the National League East. The Marlins signs like

915
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: seven second basement Jean Sigur is one of them. He's

916
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: gonna be in the lineup. Luis Arises another. He's gonna

917
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: be a rat for sure. He already kind of was

918
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: definitely bittersweet because he was traded for Pabe Lopez. The

919
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: Mets made a habit of the rush and he's a

920
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: good pitchers otherwise, and we crushed them. But Pablo Opens

921
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: had like a three two e RA if he didn't

922
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: play the Mets, but his career ARA it is.

923
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: Like around three four if you never played the Mets. Also,

924
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: Luis Rise coming in as the batting champs. We're gonna

925
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: have two bating champs face.

926
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: Off the American League. No one cares about fake League.

927
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: He also had a weird word, but World Baseball Classic

928
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: for a lot of power, struck out a lot, which

929
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: is very bizarre for Luis Rise. Be kind of cool.

930
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: If that was just an adjustment he can make. I guess,

931
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I live to just be bad. I'm

932
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: talking about for literally his own sake of a player.

933
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Because we it's gonna be funny thing with the Marlins. Here.

934
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: We're playing the Marlins seven times in a week and

935
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: a half and then you guys can say goodbye to

936
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: the Marlins until the end of the summer until football season.

937
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: So the schedules are so weird. Juli Guriel might make

938
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: the team. I don't think that's been announced yet, but

939
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: he would also be another guy who's a rat. Yeah,

940
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: if you guys knows in a trend of all the

941
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: players the Marlins acquired this year, a lot of contact,

942
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: high contact, not a lot of power. Just gonna be pesky.

943
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be the the word we use

944
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: for the Marlins all year there, pesky, pesky, pesky. And

945
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: then AJ Puck and John Yeah.

946
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: It's crazy, weird, weird off season for the Marlins. Johnny,

947
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any more two different pictures in

948
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: baseball than Johnny Quay.

949
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: Very different, although like J. Puck's like a six foot

950
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: seven string bean who just those crazy stuff, never gets hurt.

951
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: Johnny Qayer just lobs him in. He never never gets hurt,

952
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: never gets hurt. A buck never gets hurt. He always

953
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: gets hurt. Can't say healthy. And jas Chimps was back

954
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: to I think that's also been playing outfield. Didn't play

955
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: center field. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. He never played

956
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: center field in his life before premier of an athlete.

957
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: You just walk out there in center field. Yeah, he

958
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: he's definitely a fun player. He's a fan of my

959
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: YouTube channel apparently as well. Yeah, he called me out

960
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: for ranking him too low. We'll see how that mar Yeah,

961
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: my DMS. So maybe get to meet Jazz at some

962
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: point this year or just next week because afterwards Johnson, true, yeah,

963
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: can make that connection. God, that's so crazy. The schedules,

964
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, guys. We got the Marlin series coming

965
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: up here, Opening Day, Baseball is back. Let me get

966
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: one more time before. Actually, I'll probably say in the

967
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: next episode two, I'll be like, Baseball's back. Guys, How

968
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: great is this? But baseball is back? Opening days here?

969
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 1: Thursday night, right, Thursday night, No four oh four o'clock.

970
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: Really good, that's amazing. Now get some dinner afterwards. Well

971
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: imagine people have to work. How great that is. Gotta

972
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: be amazing that you can watch that entire game. It's amazing.

973
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Thank you guys so much for listening to

974
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: this episode. That reminds me.

975
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: Actually, before before we leave, Amazing Day happened this Saturday.

976
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: Y Yes, I got a great testimonial for an Amazing

977
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: Day from a fan falls on Instagram. Just a super

978
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: excited fan. I want to read it out. I want

979
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: to shout him out, guys, name and everything. It was

980
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: just cool that a lot of working into Amazing.

981
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: Day, big hit apparently shout out Vie, though.

982
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: Shout I'm not gonna shout out John Ball acknowledge John.

983
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: They were all there, they were working, they were doing great,

984
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: and even Vito said, there were a lot of people

985
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: very excited about amazing day out in the town.

986
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: So let me pull it up right now. Stephen Blanco,

987
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: if that's your real name, sick cool name.

988
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's not, but it's kind of a cool nickname,

989
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: Steven Blanco. But you said, I'm so glad they introduced it.

990
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: I had loads of fun. I in decided to go

991
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: to the concerts, but access to thing like the Met

992
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: and the other museums was awesome. The merch trucks were amazing.

993
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: It's all was success, and I hope they bring it

994
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 2: back next year.

995
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: There you go. That's all we can ask for the

996
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: people to tell we can get in the Mets heres

997
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: maybe and make sure this thing continues. I think it's

998
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: not going anywhere anytime soon. Thank you guys so much

999
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: for watching and listening the season pre review for the

1000
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: Mets on the Mets Stuff podcast. If you like what

1001
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: you're seeing here, make sure you follow us on our

1002
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1003
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: On Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok a lot of content this year.

1004
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1005
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: find the video version of this And if you're listening

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1008
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1009
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter at James Underscore Scheon and follow me at

1010
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: draftneck Mark. Make sure if you hear if you're here

1011
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: on opening day, you come say hi to us. We'd

1012
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: love to hang out with you guys, Love to take pictures,

1013
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: whatever you guys want to do. Just talk baseball, even

1014
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: that'd be great. Take a picture with whoever's wearing the tuxedo.

1015
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: The estimate is done. Who's gonna be You guys will

1016
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: find out soon enough. Thank you guys, and we'll see

1017
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: you on opening day. Peace out, peace out, See you

1018
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: guys next time.