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Speaker 2: He actually takes a stand on topics and is willing

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Speaker 3: That's accurate, Scott. I don't know if you know, but

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Speaker 3: Fred just likes every team that wins the title shout out.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 2: Unfiltered talking about everything Patriots and everything else going on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, Uh, tomorrow will be an ota that we

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Speaker 2: that tomorrow. But right now, we're still talking about what

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Speaker 4: I think that we'll maybe pick up the Hopkins talk

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Speaker 4: I think I saw a stat that Mike Rabel has

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Speaker 4: So we'll see I think that's not until next week though,

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Speaker 4: Is that is that? I think it was next Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: Well that that was definitely talked about as well in

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Speaker 3: Tennessee's not going to be very good. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think what do you think I have has your percentage

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Speaker 5: He actually said it doesn't need to be an elite

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Speaker 5: And those are the three things that he said. And

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Speaker 4: Right, say what you will about Mac, but football.

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Speaker 5: He loves football. They you know, they have Belichick here,

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Speaker 2: And what ends up.

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Speaker 3: That's all I was thinking. I wasn't really thinking about

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Speaker 5: with will Levis, Right, it'd be a lot of fun,

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Speaker 3: Really think fans would be really surprised with how little

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Speaker 2: Right, over under sixty percent chance he comes to New England.

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Speaker 5: Over over, I'm under sixty under sixty under sixty one.

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Speaker 5: I'd put it at thirty seven and a half percent.

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Speaker 3: Push push, I mean there is thirty one teams like

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Speaker 3: I don't say sixty percent for the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: That's I like to use. His confidence seems high. The

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Speaker 3: This is what it is, your boys, your people people.

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Speaker 4: Know why why pay what?

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Speaker 4: I know that's what and that's why I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: I think I'm very high in this front seven, very

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Speaker 4: So I could just I could see the opportunity for him.

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Speaker 5: Ooja in on third down like that, that could be

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Speaker 5: We've only seen two practices. I'm not trying to overreact

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Speaker 5: But Douglass maybe that first OTA practice he caught some

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, So, like I said, tomorrow will have

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Speaker 2: So that'll be interesting. Everybody has to be there unless

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Speaker 3: And we will do fred Pu shows throughout the mini camp.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Tuesday, Wednesday will have live mini camp radio shows.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we don't have the time of the practice yet. No,

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Speaker 4: I think they'll keep nine thirty to eleven thirty and

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Speaker 4: we'll probably be but they haven't been nine thirty. No.

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Speaker 5: Usually mini camp is is this time like where we

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Speaker 2: You think, oh, you think it'll be eleven to one eleven.

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Speaker 5: I think. So that's what it was last year, right.

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Speaker 3: I didn't remember that. We did radio shows last year.

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Speaker 9: I swear to god, I thought it was I thought,

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Speaker 9: I usually I don't know Vigen for you, you're CTE previagon,

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Speaker 6: That things about that, Yeah, as soon as we know

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Speaker 6: because that's when we'll start our show about fifteen minutes

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Speaker 4: We'll be on the side of the stadium.

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Speaker 2: We'll be up in the ring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where you guys insisted that you wanted to be,

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Speaker 3: making sure I was voted on that.

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Speaker 2: Why where do you want to be, Paul?

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Speaker 3: I thought if we could go down like where we

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Speaker 2: I like being up there. It's a good view. You

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Speaker 2: a very good point. Yeah, they won't steal your takes, right,

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Speaker 3: Have to go back and listen to the podcast and

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Speaker 2: It right right, you know, so they can grouse and

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Speaker 3: I just have a hard time to seeing from their

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Speaker 3: Grandpa can't see that. Why binoculars, I know, I got

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Speaker 4: I got two pairs of bump binoculars in my house

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Speaker 5: Like I would just go down the bass pro I would.

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Speaker 5: I might go over there to that buy some bush Nelson.

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Speaker 4: Well that's what I had until I until that Miami

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Speaker 3: Excited that we finally beat Miami.

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Speaker 4: So we did it, and Paul's like, to it didn't play,

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Speaker 3: Shut up, Paul. It wasn't a jerk. Thompson and then

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Speaker 3: Teddy Bridgewater right like, get hurt. We'll get them. We'll

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Speaker 4: We'll get them one of these days.

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Speaker 2: All right? Eight five five pass five hundred is the

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Speaker 2: ACE ticket hotline web radio at Patriots dot com is

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Speaker 2: the email address. I do want to mention. I was

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Speaker 2: asked to mention UH June ninth, which is tomorrow, right,

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Speaker 2: that represents uh six months out for the Army Navy

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Speaker 2: only Chicago in nineteen thirty six in Pasadena in nineteen

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Speaker 2: it's the one hundred and twenty fourth game in the series

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Speaker 2: started in eighteen ninety. I'm looking at my notes here.

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Speaker 3: So, Fred, you make fun of me a lot for

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Speaker 3: that's is that accurate? Like, you know, we have OTA

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Speaker 3: I am. I think that like the pageantry that goes

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Speaker 3: can't stand watching that style of football. They're both, they're both,

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Speaker 3: But for whatever reason it it doesn't offend me watching

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Speaker 3: It means so much to both both institutions. And like

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do everything in my power to be here

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Speaker 3: that day. I know both of my kids want to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm sure, Like if you're listening and you're,

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Speaker 2: you know, within airshot of Foxborough, the question is, you know,

443
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,439
Speaker 2: can I get tickets? In the answers, No, Unfortunately it's

444
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,040
Speaker 2: sold out. Army Navy sold out their tickets the earliest

445
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,000
Speaker 2: they've sold out, and they say that this first game

446
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,080
Speaker 2: in New England has created three times the normal ticket demand.

447
00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, but the but there'll be a lot of

448
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,600
Speaker 2: cool things going on if you want to kind of

449
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 2: get the flavor of Patriots Place. We'll have a whole

450
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff going on, you know, leading up to

451
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Speaker 2: the game.

452
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Speaker 10: Uh.

453
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Speaker 2: There'll be merchandise in the you can go to New

454
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Speaker 2: England Army Navy Game Store dot com New England Army

455
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,000
Speaker 2: Navy Game Store dot com and there's a whole bunch

456
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Speaker 2: of Army Navy uh merchandise, you know, specific to the

457
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,920
Speaker 2: game being here. There's gonna be a fan festival Thursday

458
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 2: and Friday before the game. You don't have to have tickets,

459
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,119
Speaker 2: just come. You know. There's gonna be all kinds of

460
00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 2: stuff going on uh in Boston by the US Constitution

461
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 2: and Bunker Hill. They'll be like Patriots Games presented by

462
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 2: us A A. Uh so the Cadets and the Midshipman

463
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 2: like competing all this off field stuff. There's gonna be

464
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 2: a PEP rally at Fanuel Hall on December ninth, that Friday.

465
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 2: H So there's a whole bunch of stuff going on.

466
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 2: So even if you can't go to the game, you

467
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 2: can kind of get into the excitement and then go

468
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 2: home and watch it on TV.

469
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Speaker 3: I was just gonna highlight I wasn't aware of this.

470
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Speaker 4: On Saturday, they have the march on, which they say

471
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Speaker 4: is one of the greatest traditions in college sports. Is

472
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Speaker 4: not aware of the brigade of midshipman in the Court

473
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 4: of Cadets march onto the field in formation that takes

474
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 4: place at noon on Saturday. I mean, that must be

475
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 4: something pretty cool to see, to see those guys, you know,

476
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Speaker 4: all it wants coming in.

477
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Speaker 3: So lots going on.

478
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Speaker 2: So they're saying for more information, you can go to

479
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Speaker 2: Gelletts Stadium dot com slash Army Navy and they'll have

480
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Speaker 2: all this info on it. So if you're you know,

481
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Speaker 2: I didn't expect you to take notes, but Gelettstadium dot

482
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Speaker 2: com slash Army Navy and you can get all the

483
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Speaker 2: stuff that I just talked about. Due's talked about.

484
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Speaker 4: Do you think Bill's gonna be screwing with the army

485
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 4: guys a little bit like Gatorade war and Gateorade that

486
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 4: kind of stuff with the armies.

487
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be. Yeah.

488
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Speaker 5: I mean he's got to be part of the pregame, right,

489
00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I.

490
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Speaker 4: Might imagine him and car don't know, they're probably.

491
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 3: Maybe And that weekend the Patriots play on the Thursday night, Uh,

492
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 3: that NFL week So they'll play on Thursday. Nancy have

493
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 3: a couple of days you know on wine from that Saturday.

494
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 3: Doesn't see on Sunday. No, No, something tells me that

495
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 3: wasn't by.

496
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's you know, never before in New England

497
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: the Army Navy game, because it's you know, it's not

498
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 2: just the game. You know, you're bringing up all the midshipment,

499
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 2: all the cadets. You've got to transport them up here.

500
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Speaker 2: And so it's understandable why they kind of stayed close

501
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: to you know, Annapolis and you know, uh, West West Point.

502
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 5: It's usually in Philly.

503
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Philly and Baltimore a lot. But yeah, I mean

504
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 3: it's not that much different in DC.

505
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 4: A couple of years ago when the Patriots are playing

506
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 4: there like afterwards or something.

507
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: Like they play in D in the last.

508
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Speaker 5: I maybe like the Veeper or even Biden themselves might.

509
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 2: Come, I don't know, but usually they don't announce that

510
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 2: until the day of, so that, you know, crazy people

511
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: can't plan, you know, crazy things.

512
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, just see the what is the Air Force too?

513
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 4: Come come fight in with with the craft heils out there.

514
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a helicopter pad.

515
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: Don't worry, right, come right, in so that that's cool.

516
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: So happy to announce, you know, give some information about that.

517
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: Very cool. All right, So back to uh, Patriots football

518
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: what we got, But we should mention like this haze

519
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: that's going around, like it's finally starting to hit here.

520
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 2: I was wondering why New York was getting hit before

521
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: us because we're north of New York. But I guess

522
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 2: the way it went went south. Yeah, it went south

523
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 2: and then it's coming back up.

524
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

525
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 4: I think it's supposed to clear up tomorrow a little bit.

526
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 4: My son's in Washington right now. It's terrible there today.

527
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 4: The pictures from New York yesterday were crazy. But I

528
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 4: saw some of the teams, Philadelphia being one, moved there

529
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 4: practice inside because of it, I mean for good reason.

530
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 3: I mean it looks terrible.

531
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Speaker 4: I mean I think it's what was the word that

532
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 4: they were, I mean, it's, you know, like hazardous.

533
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 3: And there were a lot of definition professional games in

534
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 3: different and various sports that were canceled. I thought it

535
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: was odd that some indoor games were canceled.

536
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't they have filters on their air conditioning and all?

537
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 3: That's the w NBA game. I think there was supposed

538
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 3: to be played in New York was canceled. I mean

539
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 3: obviously the I think the Yankees and Mets both were out.

540
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 3: I think the.

541
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Speaker 5: Nationals today the National.

542
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: Fit and I think the Phillies may have been blame.

543
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: Canada Flame Freddy Freddy at the media yesterday.

544
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 4: The first thing I thought it was a catchy jingle,

545
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Speaker 4: you know.

546
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Canada's fault.

547
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's going on.

548
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,719
Speaker 4: It was like California, we had them there. I mean

549
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 4: that was it was actually like, I mean, not consistent,

550
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 4: but you know, from time to time, it's definitely happens

551
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 4: out there in LA. Remember smelling, I mean that was

552
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 4: like smoking the air. Yeah, I remember smoke, not just

553
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 4: like dirty air.

554
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Speaker 5: The one time that we had one that was really bad.

555
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 5: When I was out there, we were only a couple

556
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Speaker 5: of miles from the evacuation line. So my my parents

557
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Speaker 5: and me, I we were like calling relatives that were

558
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Speaker 5: like not in like you know, downtown on an LA

559
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Speaker 5: area that maybe I could go stay with for like

560
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: a couple of days. And uh, you could just see

561
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 5: the sky was like the it was the color of fire,

562
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 5: like the whole sky just like lights up like an

563
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 5: orange like pink was.

564
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 3: That one, like the side of the four five right

565
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: near the Getty went up.

566
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's just it's the sky is the craziest

567
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 5: part to me. It's just it looks like you're you're

568
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 5: in a you know, inferno. You know it's it's.

569
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 4: New York's crazy yesterday look post apocalyptic film.

570
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody did a really good job. You could see

571
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: the Chrysler building in the foreground or the Empire in

572
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: the foreground, the Chrysler in the background, and next to

573
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: it is Godzilla and because of the haze like it

574
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: it would it just right. Yeah, it just looked perfect scary.

575
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 4: I hope they get get that all out of out

576
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 4: of here and out over the ocean and process so

577
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 4: we can have our clean air again.

578
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 5: It's a big fan, Yeah, big fan.

579
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 3: Do we have that?

580
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 4: Does any have one of those? Is there any anything

581
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 4: or you can do? Can we call him the weather machine?

582
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 3: Does that smoke? All?

583
00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 2: Right?

584
00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 10: Eight?

585
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: Five five, that's five hundred is the A's ticket Hotline.

586
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phone see what people are thinking

587
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: about Patty's inn ago on what's up Patty? Patty?

588
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 11: So I may be in the minority here, but I

589
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 11: I think I made it pretty clear before, like you know,

590
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 11: early on in the off season that maybe it's the

591
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 11: age about DeAndre Hopkins or the fact that he lost that.

592
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 11: You know, everyone's saying they might have lost this step.

593
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 11: But I mean, do we really want to like invest

594
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 11: at least like two years into this guy if he

595
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Speaker 11: might be toast? I'm just looking at it kind of

596
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 11: from a perspective where I was a few years ago

597
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 11: with Julio Jones, Like I know that a lot of

598
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 11: Patriots fans wanted to see Julio Jones come to Fox, Bro,

599
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 11: but I think I was in the minority then that maybe.

600
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: The guys, well, well that's the thing that you know, Okay,

601
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: so let's qualify, you know, the stage of his career.

602
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: I think he's far from toast. Is he in his prime?

603
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: No?

604
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: Is? Would he be probably one of the best receivers

605
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 2: in this team right away? Yes? So is it worth paying, like,

606
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: look it up, is it worth paying like fifteen sixteen

607
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: million dollars this year to have a better receiver than

608
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: what you currently have? I think it is. I think

609
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 2: it is.

610
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 5: It's a risker word thing, like it might blow up

611
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 5: in your face. It might be a bad contractor might

612
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 5: be a bad move, but the upside.

613
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: If it doesn't work back to where you were, You're

614
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: not giving up anything to accept money. You're not giving

615
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: up any assets to get him, So why not?

616
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: So that was two years ago, right for Julio Jones.

617
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: It was heading into the twenty one season, so his

618
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 3: last year in Atlanta, he caught fifty one passes for

619
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Speaker 3: seven hundred and seventy one yards and three touchdowns.

620
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 5: Literally the same production.

621
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Speaker 3: So it's a very similar year that that happen, and

622
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 3: he missed time because he always misses time, Julio Jones.

623
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Speaker 3: And then he dropped down to thirty one catches before

624
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 3: thirty four, and then he dropped to twenty four for

625
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: two ninety nine last year in Tampa. So, cousin, Patty's

626
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: not The comparison is not terrible, right, They're both great,

627
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: great receivers, right, No one would say anything bad about

628
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: Julio Jones and.

629
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: Is more down the field than Hopkins.

630
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, yeah, Julio was a specimen like explosive specimen.

631
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

632
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: I think Julio was better than Oh in his prime.

633
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: I agree, But I think they're both extremely physical, big

634
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: and durable receivers that have been highly productive throughout their career.

635
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: And I'm just looking now, Evan, he played in nine

636
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: games last his last year in Atlanta, he played in

637
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: nine games. So it's literally the same, literally the same.

638
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 3: I don't think Patty's way off. Now, that doesn't mean

639
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 3: that they're both going to do the same thing. You know.

640
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: That's what happened to Julio Jones, right, jo Jones was older.

641
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: I think looks like he's been How many years is

642
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: Hopkins played this is?

643
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 5: Uh? Oh man eleven or twelve? Yeah, I want to

644
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 5: say eleven?

645
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, how old is he?

646
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 5: Thirty one?

647
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 8: Oh?

648
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 2: God? Yeah, bingo, same beings, thanks, Patty.

649
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 5: I just think it's worth the risk. Hey, whether it were.

650
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: Jones Jones was thirty one that year in Atlanta that

651
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: he caught the same amount, you know, basically had the

652
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: same production as Hopkins.

653
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: I was just wonder if you know, Julio Jones more athletic,

654
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 4: more to fall down from, whereas Hopkins has kind of

655
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: gotten by not being the fastest guy. And I mean

656
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 4: at least he has some kind of concept of I'm

657
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: just faster and bigger than everybody, And you know, when

658
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: that starts to go with a guy like you know

659
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: Jones like then it's more difficult, it's a more precipitous

660
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 4: decline than you know, hopefully.

661
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: I mean, Hawkins can happen.

662
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Speaker 2: To compare, would you you know, I'm not saying they're

663
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: exactly the same, but would you compare ju Julio Jones

664
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Speaker 2: more to Calvin Johnson and Hopkins more to an Kwon Bolden.

665
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: A little bit? I think so A little bit not crazy.

666
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Bolden was a little bigger and

667
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 4: you know, a little more physical than then. But but

668
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 4: I think generally kind of the roles probably.

669
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: Say, yeah, I look at things a little different the

670
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: way that Mike just explained it. I think the guy

671
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: who's really athletic and then slows down, if he has

672
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: those other kinds of traits, can find ways to continue

673
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: to be productive Larry Fitzgerald. Which is when Ankwon Bolden did.

674
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: An Kwon Bolden was ridiculously athletic when he entered the league.

675
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: He didn't run a blazing fast forty time. He never did,

676
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: but he I think his first game in the NFL

677
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: he had like over two hundred yards receiving his very

678
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: first game, but then he lost a step but had

679
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: other things to fall back on.

680
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: He was a good route runner, and he used his

681
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: body well.

682
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: I think sometimes when you don't enter with that high

683
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 3: end athleticism and then you lose a step. I don't

684
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: care how much savvy you have, it's hard to fall

685
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: back on something because now you just you don't separate.

686
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: Now I would, I would still, I would make this move.

687
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 3: I'm with these these guys on Hopkins. I'm not gonna

688
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: sit there and tell you what changes my overall opinion

689
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: of where the team can go or anything like that.

690
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: But I think he's better. I think you guys said

691
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: it very simply on Tuesday. He would be the best

692
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: receiver you have. And for that reason, I'm in. Yeah,

693
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: Like I'm all for trying to make my team better.

694
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: I think he would make the team better.

695
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 5: I just don't. I just also just not to pick

696
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 5: on Patty, but like, like the money just doesn't. I

697
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 5: don't care money than I It's it's the money and

698
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 5: the salary cap. Like if the contract ends up blowing

699
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 5: up in their face and they have to eat the money,

700
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 5: then they'll figure out the way to work around the

701
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 5: salary cap. So it just to me, it's just a

702
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 5: boomer bust signing and that's it.

703
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Paul, you touched on it, and this was

704
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: that was something that I kind of thought about after

705
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: we discussed this on Tuesday, was like, does DeAndre Hopkins

706
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 4: make the Patriots super Bowl contenders?

707
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 8: No?

708
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 4: I mean does he make them super Bowl conners next year? Definitely?

709
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: No?

710
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: You know, so it's it's it's it's just one of

711
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 4: those moves like you feel like you kind of have

712
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 4: to make. But does it really move the needle where

713
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: we all want it to go?

714
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: If he alone doesn't. But if you if Mac takes

715
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: a jump and I'm talking beyond his rookie season, if

716
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: he if he throws for thirty plus touchdowns and four

717
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: thousand plus yards, and you have Dee Hopkins, I think

718
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: you're you're in the you're in the conversation now. I

719
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 2: think of, you know, being a playoff contender and then

720
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: anything goes and then anything goes to get in.

721
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I think that they could

722
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: they could become a playoff contender.

723
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, absolutely, And that's saying a lot because

724
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: of the division, because you know you're gonna be a

725
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: wild card, so you're gonna have to beat out a

726
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: bunch of teams just to get into the playoffs. So

727
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: it's saying a lot to be a playoff content.

728
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 5: I would just like to go into to Buffalo one

729
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 5: time and feel like, if this game is played in

730
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 5: the thirties, we might actually have a chance to outscore

731
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 5: the Bills on the scoreboard. And Hopkins just makes it

732
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 5: feel like that.

733
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: It's more like that makes a few stops.

734
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 5: We got a shot, right, I mean, how many times

735
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 5: are we gonna go into Buffalo with just going into

736
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 5: the game knowing, really, we only win this game if

737
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 5: it goes one way, like if it turns into a

738
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 5: rock fight and and it's really windy or freezing or

739
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 5: there's a blizzard or something like out out of our

740
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 5: control happens. Because if we have to play Buffalo straight up,

741
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 5: then we have no chance. I just I need to

742
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 5: move the needle.

743
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would, I would say too. To Fred's point, like,

744
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 4: it's it's not even about what you know, it's a

745
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: lot about what Hopkins would bring on the field, but

746
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: it's also just his arrivals. It's gives maxim encouragement, it

747
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 4: gives Mac you know, a little bit of juice, Like

748
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 4: all right, I got another really good guy to throw to.

749
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 4: You know, maybe that that is something that can help

750
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 4: get him to that season that like you said, you know.

751
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: A real professional wide receiver who knows the game, is crafty.

752
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: You know, we'll get it. I think that can only

753
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: help the team.

754
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: I just my brain can't get help. But go to

755
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 4: day one a training camp, when the fans are lining

756
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 4: up out there, what's the difference between if DeAndre Hopkins

757
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: is on this roster or he's not. I think it's

758
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 4: a huge difference. I think that that's going to put

759
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: seats in the butt, seats in the butt, in the butt.

760
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: Wow, that was a good one. That was a good one.

761
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: Seats in the butts. I might want to sit the

762
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: next one. No, and I wouldn't the whole like, does

763
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: he make you a super Bowl contender? That shouldn't be.

764
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: And I understand it, Like I get the theory and whatnot.

765
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: I'm not making fun of anyone for thinking that way

766
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: that he's not going to make you a super Bowl contender,

767
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: But I don't think that should be the be all

768
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: end all with every transaction that you make, Well, is

769
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: this guy gonna help us?

770
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: Right?

771
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: If he makes you better? And you're trying to get

772
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: better as a team, and yes, I do think mac

773
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: Jones is part of that. It's a position that would

774
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: help mac Jones, that helps your overall course. Yeah, anything

775
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: you can do to help maximize what you have Mac

776
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: Jones you should be thinking about because I think that's

777
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: a big part of the next three four to five years.

778
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and certainly this season, any success will hinge on

779
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: how mac Jones plays. Yeah, you just.

780
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 5: Look at the schedule too. I keep on going back

781
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 5: to the schedule and how difficult it is and how

782
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 5: many offenses that they're gonna play, even right out of

783
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 5: the gate with Philly and Dallas and now with Rogers

784
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 5: and with the Jets. Like, you're gonna have to score

785
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 5: some points to win some games. And at some point

786
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 5: you have to recognize that and go all in and

787
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 5: everything that you can. I'm not saying, like go sign

788
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 5: Hopkins and Dalvin Cook, but like you have to do

789
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 5: some things to get closer to be able to compete

790
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 5: like that because you're not gonna beat every single team

791
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 5: twenty to seventeen, especially with the offenses and the quarterbacks

792
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: that are on their schedule. It's gonna be some shootouts

793
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 5: and can you win one of those games? Because you haven't,

794
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 5: you haven't won one of those games.

795
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 4: I won't overreact to week week one, but I just

796
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 4: I think the Eagles kind of embodied just such a

797
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 4: fascinating first test of everything the Patriots kind of do

798
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 4: and stand for, and what the Eagles have done and

799
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 4: stand for, what their offensive scheme is, and how many

800
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 4: fits that's giving a balance team balance. They got a

801
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: lot of you know, a lot of frigging guys from

802
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 4: Georgia on the defense, but I mean, they just, you know,

803
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 4: they I think everybody is pretty impressed with just their

804
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 4: team building approach and you know, and I think the

805
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 4: Patriots used to have that.

806
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 3: I don't think they've had it lately.

807
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 4: And it's just that it's a really interesting first game

808
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 4: as far as the narrative goes.

809
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: I understand it, and I totally and that's why I

810
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: would want to I would want to make a move

811
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: like that, not because I think he's gonna put me well,

812
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: now I can do X, Y and Z, but he's

813
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: going to help me do some of the things that

814
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 3: I haven't been able to do now for two years.

815
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: And I do think that that's part of if you

816
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: want to people write in and they call in all

817
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: the time and they ask us what kind of things

818
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: would you think would represent progress? You know, these nebulous

819
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: kind of if he did this, or if Mac did

820
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: that and the offense did this, and they showed signs

821
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: of that, and we always say, well, you kind of

822
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: know it when you see it. It's hard to just say, well,

823
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: if he throws for X amount of yards and X

824
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 3: amount of touchdowns. To me, if you can get at

825
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 3: the end of the year, there's no longer anybody rationally

826
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: saying Hac Jones shouldn't be the quarterback in year four.

827
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: That would be a very positive sign. And I think

828
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: part of that should be trying to make sure that

829
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 3: you have everything in support of him that you can

830
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 3: and that doesn't mean you bend over backward to do

831
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: things that are going to hurt the team just to

832
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: help the quarterback. This to me, helps the team adds

833
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 3: at the very least, it adds depth at a position

834
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: that I think you have a lot of similar If

835
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: you have a lot of similar players, I think he

836
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: would be the best player.

837
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: And Tevan's point at the top of the show with

838
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 4: the two rookies you know. I mean, we don't want

839
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 4: to bury them at all at this point, but you know,

840
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 4: it's just something to think about. The depth is certainly

841
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: an issue, like you said, and you know, if those

842
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 4: guys don't pop, you're gonna need another body.

843
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: And you have to remember that both of those guys

844
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: were selected in the sixth round. Now, I understand that

845
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 3: Booty is considered to be more talented than the sixth round,

846
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 3: but it wasn't just because he fell out of favor

847
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: at LSU. That's not why he went from the late

848
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: first second round to the sixth round. It was because

849
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: of his production, because of how he ran at the combine,

850
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: the injury that he had with you, there's a lot

851
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: of things that factored into that, you know, in addition

852
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 3: to you know, Brian Kelly kind of asked them to leave.

853
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the only reason why I brought it up

854
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 5: was to kind of temper expectations for those two a

855
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 5: little bit, because I do think it's gotten and maybe

856
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 5: some of this was our fault, my fault.

857
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: You know.

858
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 5: I don't speak for everybody, but I loved that book.

859
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: I still love the pick, but.

860
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 5: I do think that now that we've gotten out there,

861
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 5: Like d you said the other day, you know, the

862
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 5: top four received veteran guys aren't at practice, and Booty

863
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 5: and Douglas are have this great opportunity to pop a

864
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 5: little bit and they kind of did nothing.

865
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: So it's funny that you said that. So that was

866
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: kind of like the top of my blog thing on Tuesday,

867
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 3: was that the thing that you were talking about during

868
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: the show and during practice I stole from you. I

869
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: told Joe I was going to do it about just

870
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 3: how heavily involved all the rookies were. I didn't really

871
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: accentuate the receivers because I didn't really see a whole

872
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: lot from them. Yeah, but I you know, we were

873
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: talking about you know, Gonzales in white and you know

874
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: how they were, where Mapu went from linebacker one day

875
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: of OTAs to safety and being active the next day

876
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: that we got to see OTAs. I didn't really see

877
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: a whole lot from Douglas or Booty. Doesn't mean that

878
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: we won't see him. It was OTA practices, So I'm

879
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 3: not writing them off by any means, But yeah, I

880
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: thought they were a little.

881
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 5: I'm not writing them off, but these are the types

882
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 5: of practices that you want to see a receiver. There's

883
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 5: no contact, there's no pads. Like, if you're not getting

884
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 5: open and creating separation in the spring, then how are

885
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 5: you going to do it once? People can hit you

886
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 5: if they don't.

887
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: Bite when they're puppies.

888
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 4: I felt like to the covers was a little bit

889
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe this is I might be wrong

890
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: on this one. But do you feel with Gonzales like, oh, yeah,

891
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 4: he's the guy? Like based off that practice, do you

892
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 4: feel like, oh, he's the number one? Like I just

893
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 4: I felt like there was a lot of reactions of like,

894
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 4: though he's the number one because he was out there.

895
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: It's like, we do this every year, and we all

896
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 3: do it. I'm guilty of it too. Again, I don't

897
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 3: like to I make fun of myself as much as

898
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 3: I make fun of everybody else. I know people don't

899
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: always hear it that way, but when Bill tells you

900
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: time and time again to not do that, we still

901
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: all do it. Marp who was out there right next

902
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: to Juwan Bentley the first time we get a chance

903
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: to win, Oh my god, he's got a red jersey on.

904
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 3: He's a rookie.

905
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: Day one.

906
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: The next practice we go through and Christian Gonzalez is

907
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: at left corner first play, first play that we get

908
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: to see him at OTAs he's out there. Yeah, okay,

909
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. You know, I think that Gonzalez

910
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: is going to be the starter. I told you Rossie

911
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 3: Dowling started week one as a rookie. Like, it's not

912
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: going to be this way out of character thing for

913
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick to start a cornerback, a rookie cornerback in

914
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: week one.

915
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 5: Don't put that bad juju.

916
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying, like, I think it's more likely

917
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: than not that he starts. Yeah, week one, you pick

918
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: him in the first round, it's a need he should start.

919
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: He should start.

920
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: If he doesn't, it's upset. But I just I just

921
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 4: want to pump the brakes on like he's a shutdown

922
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: corner you know. I'm like, like, pump the brakes like,

923
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 4: I like, we all want him to be, Hey, go

924
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 4: follow Stefan Diggs and take him out of the game.

925
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 4: But I just I think that that's way too lofty

926
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: to expect for this.

927
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: Before we started, Evyon was joking around about the you

928
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 3: know the stats that everybody compiles during the you know,

929
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 3: during these practices. You know, so and so was you know,

930
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: eight for nine during the competitive but there was no

931
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: competitive portion of that.

932
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 5: That's and I will admit that it's difficult. It takes

933
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 5: a while to train your eyes of like is this

934
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 5: a live rep? Is this not a live rep? Like

935
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 5: where are we on you know, the from walk through

936
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 5: to to full tilt? Like what percentage are we going?

937
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 5: But the stats that come out from these OTA practices

938
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 5: is a joke. I mean, like what, First of all,

939
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 5: a lot of the time the corners are letting up

940
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 5: and letting the receivers catch the ball just so that

941
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 5: the drill can continue, like whether or not that they're

942
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 5: actually catching it or not. So you know, they're running

943
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 5: like a like a kill the clock type of drill

944
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 5: at the other practice on it the other day, and

945
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 5: I'm pretty positive that the corners were being told to

946
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 5: just let because they're trying to work on the situation.

947
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 5: They're not really necessarily worried about going one on one

948
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 5: or are you gonna catch it? Or are you gonna

949
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 5: stop it? They're just trying to play out this is

950
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 5: what happens when we're trying to get a first down

951
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 5: to run out the rest of the clock. So yeah,

952
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 5: don't don't pay any attention to that.

953
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: Was he six or seven?

954
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's the phones. Eldred's in North Carolina? What's up, Eldred?

955
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's tell y'all doing passionate honk there like yes, sir.

956
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 10: Evan all with you? Man, it makes them better. I

957
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 10: don't give you thirty one thirty two. Go get him,

958
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 10: you know, at least we'll see what kick the towers

959
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 10: on them to think and that'd be good. But Fred,

960
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 10: I listened to Tuesday show because I couldn't get in. Yeah,

961
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 10: you hurt my feelings? Man? What did I do hurt

962
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 10: my feeling?

963
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 2: Oh?

964
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 10: Okay, I told you when they met, when they picked them.

965
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I I then I apologize. I forget I

966
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: didn't I don't remember that. But if you said that,

967
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: then I apologize.

968
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 10: I didn't predict the s I'll say, we're going to

969
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 10: the super Bowl, okay, And if you played back old clip,

970
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 10: you just say that.

971
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm why don't you get that old clip?

972
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

973
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: Get that for next week.

974
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 5: To be fair, if they didn't have Randy Moss and

975
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 5: you picked them to go to the super Bowl, that

976
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 5: have been outlandish at the time.

977
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 3: Like I thought Dante Starwolf was a guy. You guys

978
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 3: know that I'm you know, probably as pessimistic as as any.

979
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: There was like an eleven year stretch, right, I picked

980
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 3: him to go to the super Bowl every year.

981
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. But but coming off but coming off his year

982
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: at in at the Raiders, people didn't really know what

983
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: you were getting with Randy Moass, and that's why you

984
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: got him for fourth round pick exactly.

985
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 10: But but I said, superdrum. He said, you get the

986
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 10: rand new of old. And I believe them. Okay, Like

987
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 10: I said, I knew Randy a little bit. So like

988
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 10: I said, the girl was dating at the time, his

989
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 10: baby mama drama is Virginia, all.

990
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: Right, okay, okay, six degrees of uh so you knew

991
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 3: it's like Zion Williams.

992
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: But great, you know, y'all all right, thanks, all right?

993
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 5: So we we. Julio was the comparison, and that one

994
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 5: was spot on. It turns out statistically, Moss was thirty

995
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: when he came to the Patriots. The year before with

996
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 5: the with the Raiders, he had forty two catches for

997
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 5: five hundred and fifty three yards and three touchdowns. God

998
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 5: some of the conversations are are similar between those two guys.

999
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 5: You know, do they how much do they want to practice?

1000
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 5: How much effort are they putting in? Like malcontents in

1001
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 5: their current people thought he flat out didn't want to play,

1002
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 5: right absolutely, Yeah, yeah, I mean he Moss was a

1003
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 5: year younger. But I'm not saying that if they signed

1004
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 5: Hopkins is gonna catch twenty three touchdowns. But I think

1005
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 5: that there's you know, there if you you could say

1006
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 5: it's Julio, but you could also say it's for any Moss,

1007
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 5: right like there, And that's sort of the point, right,

1008
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 5: and let's play.

1009
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: We'll play, you know, the positive side of it, Like

1010
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: look at the impact that those high profile wide receiver

1011
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: acquisitions had last year, you know, with Hill and Adams

1012
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: and Brown. You know, is it completely out of the

1013
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: Roman possibility? Like I know you would joke around you said,

1014
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 3: like twenty three touchdowns? What if you cut like thirteen? Yeah,

1015
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: if you got twenty three, what if you cut like

1016
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: thirteen touchdowns for you? Yeah, and all of a sudden,

1017
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: he vaults your offense to a different level, right, Like

1018
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: it's it's not completely out of the realm of possibility

1019
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: for a great player to have one more great season.

1020
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: Spend the money. Just get him here, Get him here.

1021
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: I mean like if I'm if you're the Titans, maybe

1022
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: you don't need it. Let him leave today.

1023
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: I mean that's what I'm working.

1024
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: And he comes in and say, you're not leaving.

1025
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: If you leave, go now. You just can't leave.

1026
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like rapes rapes.

1027
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, so me.

1028
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 5: At least get a visit, Like, can you at least

1029
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 5: get a seat at the table. That's the thing that has.

1030
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: He seen the new video board.

1031
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: He's got to see the.

1032
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: New video Who's the agent that he chose?

1033
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 5: Uh? Guy that works for Clutch Sports.

1034
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: I forget his name.

1035
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 5: I did I know the name.

1036
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: He's not a friend of Bill.

1037
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 4: You're texting him yet, Evan.

1038
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: It's not Neil Cohen rich or Drew Rosenhouse.

1039
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 5: No, it's not true.

1040
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: Allen Eagleston, Na and agents.

1041
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: Don't all right, a lot of emails coming in. Let's

1042
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 2: see Alex has wondered about the background noise. Sorry about that.

1043
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: There is construction going on. Uh so it's a lot

1044
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: of beeps.

1045
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 4: It's like it was like a cacophony of beeps.

1046
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 3: Well you get well, I know you weren't because I

1047
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: had checked with you earlier. Fred, were you here when

1048
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 3: the evacuation happened yesterday? Yeah, I didn't see you outside.

1049
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: It wasn't ann actual evacuation.

1050
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 3: But how did you know?

1051
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: He gave it a Fred And because it says if

1052
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: you listen, if after this announcement, the signal stops and

1053
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: you don't have to go out. So the single started

1054
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: for started for five seconds and then it stopped.

1055
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 3: Everybody else went on it's busy not on our floor. Well,

1056
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: I just assume.

1057
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: I actually listened to the announcement, so we were good,

1058
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: but there was a fire, let's see. Dylan Wright saying,

1059
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: just wanted to give a shout out to Evan. Love

1060
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: watching people say we need to get younger through the

1061
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: draft and get good, young, skilled position players. Then Evan

1062
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: says the second round wide receiver going into their second

1063
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: year looks good so far, and then every call is

1064
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 2: people saying let's pump the brakes. I'm glad I don't

1065
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: have to worry about people calling in to chastise me

1066
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: because Gonzo and Thornton look good and I'm excited to

1067
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 2: see their production this season. I feel confident, saying they

1068
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: will both be good players, and it's funny to me

1069
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: that people consider that a bold take.

1070
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: I think one of them is a bull tack.

1071
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 5: Taekwon.

1072
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you didn't really see anything that would

1073
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 3: lead you to believe that's gonna be a really good player.

1074
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 3: I still don't know what we got on him. He was.

1075
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 3: I'm not telling you he's bad, But like Gonzales, there's

1076
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 3: there's a freshness there. He's he's a rookie, first round pick,

1077
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: and you know, we love the athleticism, let's see him play.

1078
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: But the Wointon played a whole year and it was

1079
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: kind of and that's what I like.

1080
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 4: I'm trying to find a comp to him of like,

1081
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 4: you know, to be like what could he be? And

1082
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 4: there's just not a lot of you know, bean pull

1083
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 4: speed burners out there in the league. Like I don't know,

1084
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 4: I just I struggled.

1085
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: Just that's what it is.

1086
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 4: And that's stupid because you know, he's his own guy

1087
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 4: and you shouldn't have to rely on a comparison.

1088
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 5: But I'll give you a couple. Yeah, you know, I

1089
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 5: have these. I have these in the chambers. I'm interested,

1090
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 5: So I think the best one just because of who

1091
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 5: the coordinator is is will Fuller. Now will Fuller, if

1092
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 5: he was healthy, would have been a thousand yard receiver

1093
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 5: for a long time. He just didn't stay healthy. And

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Speaker 5: when I remember will Fuller, I remember him being a

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Speaker 5: bigger guy. I actually looked it up. He's basically the

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Speaker 5: same size as Taekwon. He was. He was a rail

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Speaker 5: thin burner, you know, that was exactly, and he couldn't

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Speaker 5: stay healthy well, and he couldn't stay healthy. So maybe

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Speaker 5: maybe he couldn't stay healthy just because he couldn't stay

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Speaker 5: healthy and he's unlucky, or maybe it was because his

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Speaker 5: body was too frail and he got hurt all the time.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but he just watching how he was

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Speaker 5: used in Bill O'Brien's offense in Houston, it's there's some

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Speaker 5: similar comparisons.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one.

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Speaker 5: And you know, he hasn't hasn't broken out in the

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Speaker 5: NFL yet. But Jamison Williams at Alabama under O'Brien had

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Speaker 5: a great year at his breakout season, and he's also

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Speaker 5: a six foot one hundred and eighty pounds, soaking wet

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Speaker 5: for two guys. So we'll see what happens with Jamison

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Speaker 5: Williams in the NFL. But I think that those two

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Speaker 5: the way they were used within the structure of Bill

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Speaker 5: O'Brien's offense, I think you can kind of take away

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Speaker 5: as some similarities there some overlap.

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Speaker 2: Tim from Duncan, our friends at Duncan listening to you guy,

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Speaker 2: Duncan listening to you guys on Hopkins today, and the

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Speaker 2: chances of him coming to the Patriots. Fortunately, I think

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Speaker 2: he's not leaving Nashville without a contract. On a totally

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Speaker 2: different note, my son walked by Paul on Tuesday in

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Speaker 2: the stadium and immediately called me and said, who's that

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Speaker 2: gray haired guy you always watch and listened to. I

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Speaker 2: immediately said Paul Parolo, and sure enough he said, yes,

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Speaker 2: this show is it's best ever. And that's saying something.

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Speaker 2: Catch twenty two is great in its own right.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Tim, Thanks Tim, Thanks Tim.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I need While he was talking, says he says

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Speaker 2: who the person was, but he said it's off the

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Speaker 2: air for off the air.

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Speaker 3: I want to know if he like, you know, breach

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Speaker 3: security or anything.

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Speaker 4: Paul loves when he gets asked for autographs, So don't

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Speaker 4: hesitate next time.

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Speaker 3: Just mister, I hate you.

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Speaker 2: Signed anyway, Paul says, yeah, you know, I had to

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Speaker 2: go speak to a class that he loves that he

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Speaker 2: gets up there and you know, has the ring and everything, and.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I do I do enjoy that. That's actor. I

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Speaker 3: enjoy speaking to classic.

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Speaker 2: I know you don't you want to kiss the ring.

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Speaker 3: I think that's cool.

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Speaker 5: I did at one time.

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Speaker 3: That never will never stop being cool. When someone says

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Speaker 3: hello to you that I'm sorry, that will never stop

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Speaker 3: being cool to me, that makes me a bad person.

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Speaker 5: Then it's especially cool when it happens when I'm with Jess,

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Speaker 5: because then it's like me.

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Speaker 3: That will turn.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't care, it doesn't care for that.

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Speaker 3: Beth Rules Arising goes.

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Speaker 2: Please Andrea from New Jersey. Here are my two bold

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Speaker 2: predictions for the Patriots. By the start of the season

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Speaker 2: and when the season is over. That Pig in the

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Speaker 2: urban setting will be a starter over Trent Brown by

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Speaker 2: week one or week four.

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Speaker 3: Just a tremendous I don't think. I don't think that

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Speaker 3: got enough. I mean, we all laughed and we all

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Speaker 3: liked it, but in listening to the open today, I

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Speaker 3: don't think we gave it enough.

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Speaker 5: The origin of that though.

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Speaker 2: My other prediction is Patriots will be in the AFC

1161
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Speaker 2: Championship game, all those analysts on television talking about the

1162
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Speaker 2: other three teams in the division will look like buffoons

1163
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Speaker 2: disrespecting this team. This will be Belichick and mac Jones

1164
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Speaker 2: revenge tour. What are they getting revenge about?

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine you don't want to get mac Jones upset?

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Speaker 2: Ps. I know how to write good emails and become

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Speaker 2: a real football nerd like Evan Fred. Can I come

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Speaker 2: to work for you? Well?

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Speaker 3: No, that kind of seemed like a shot at effort.

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Speaker 5: We're not hiring. That seemed like a shot at There's

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Speaker 5: only one. There's only one nerd that's allowed to be here.

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Speaker 3: All right, just like there's only one Duce.

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Speaker 2: Ray says, I'll be honest, I don't have a highly

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Speaker 2: constructive email to write today, but I wanted to bump

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Speaker 2: Fred's nickname for cities up another level. The second movie

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised Hollywood Duce didn't make the connection. And also

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Speaker 2: I noticed that Eric's replacement, Evan properly used the term

1179
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Speaker 2: jettison during Tuesday's show. In order to fully supplant Eric,

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Speaker 2: we need Evan to define flotsam and jetsam and the

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Speaker 2: cycle will be complete.

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Speaker 5: I can't, so at least you would.

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Speaker 3: I heard part.

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Speaker 5: Talked about it.

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Speaker 4: We we we did discuss that, that that whole argument thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so say what it is, I'll do, I'll do

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Speaker 3: my O. I can't. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't have that.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't have the top of my head. No, Fred,

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Speaker 3: that's not what I said. Yes, that's what I said.

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Speaker 3: No matter what he said, is what he said. Even

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Speaker 3: though it doesn't have anything to do with crap flam

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Speaker 3: in the ocean. Isn't that what it is? Well, one

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Speaker 3: of them had to do with like actual stuff that

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Speaker 3: was thrown off, like an airplane, because flats was that

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Speaker 3: the flats of the jets, the jets, jets from the jets.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, it wasn't what Eric thought it was.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it was, Eric butchered it and like Fred said,

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Speaker 3: instead of just saying I don't know, like Evan did.

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Speaker 3: It went on for forty five minutes. Fred George, all right,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna take a break. My foods here. When we

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Speaker 3: come back, we'll have more. Fred.

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Speaker 8: Patriots fans, you'll want to check out the replay on

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Speaker 5: And now Great Moments in.

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Speaker 2: History. Both terms refer to items found floating in the sea. However,

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Speaker 2: Eric was wrong stating that the distinction relates to the

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Speaker 2: type of vehicle.

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Speaker 5: I misspoke, Eric, We have it on tape.

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Speaker 3: I just said I misspoke.

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Speaker 2: You were clear were taking context. There was no misspeaking.

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Speaker 2: Did you misremember the fact that you mentioned a plane

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Speaker 2: is absolutely one hundred percent wrong.

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Speaker 19: Yes, because I was thinking in my head jet Jettison

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Speaker 19: was thinking jets wrong.

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Speaker 3: So that's how I was remembering it, because he said.

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Speaker 2: Jets Let me finish this. The correct distinction is that

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Speaker 2: flotsam is debris from a flessel, from a vessel that

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Speaker 2: was that was not deliberately thrown overboard, and jetsam is

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Speaker 2: debris from a vessel that was deliberately thrown.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm aware you didn't say that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I did say that.

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Speaker 19: Eric, I said, when there's a shipwreck, he kind of flats, Yeah,

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Speaker 19: because it just floats when it just floats from a

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Speaker 19: shipwreck when.

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Speaker 3: You throw stuff off.

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Speaker 2: But he was right about the the action.

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Speaker 3: He was wrong about the vehicle, right.

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Speaker 19: No, I said, when there's a shipwreck, Yeah, the stuff

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Speaker 19: that's the debris from the shipwreck is floating.

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Speaker 2: That's flats.

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Speaker 3: That's not correct.

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Speaker 4: It is correct.

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Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 2: He just kept digging a hole deeper and deeper.

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Speaker 3: Oh that went on for another half hour. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: just wanted to stay for the record. Did I misrepresent

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Speaker 3: that story in any way? And another rare one that

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Speaker 3: I wasn't really involved in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good one though. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 2: a good one.

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Speaker 5: I'm nothing like that.

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Speaker 2: You have your own oddities back here. Eight five five

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Speaker 2: pats five hundred is the ace ticket hutline web radio

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Speaker 2: at Patriots dot com as the email address deuces Mike

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Speaker 2: isn't working.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, did you break it? Deuced?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, oh boy, let's get because he had so

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Speaker 3: many ridiculous takes, so we had to cut you off.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to some of these emails at web

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Speaker 2: radio at Patriots dot com. Neil from New Brunswick. I'm

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Speaker 2: wondering if any of you heard Tom Brady's recent string

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Speaker 2: of interviews. I heard the conversation with Rich Eisen. My opinion,

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Speaker 2: he says all the right things, but it's still pretty

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Speaker 2: bitter toward the Patriots. When asked about Aaron Rodgers' chances

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Speaker 2: of doing what he did with the Bucks, he said

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Speaker 2: it would be tough because the Bills and Dolphins are

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Speaker 2: really good, and then proceeded to take ten seconds to

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Speaker 2: remember the fourth team in the division, the Patriots. When

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Speaker 2: asked about returning for Week one to be honored, he

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Speaker 2: said he was excited and then basically said it will

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Speaker 2: be a miracle if the Patriots win because the Eagles

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Speaker 2: are so good and apparently we're so bad. The nicest

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Speaker 2: thing he can say is, as kids were born in Boston,

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Speaker 2: I would get your honoring in while you can be

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Speaker 2: based oh what happened? What's going on here? I would

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Speaker 2: get your honoring him while you can, because based on

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Speaker 2: the way he talks, I would not expect frequent visits

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Speaker 2: from TB twelve. Interesting did anyone else see the recent

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Speaker 2: string or hear the recent string of interviews?

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I would just say that I didn't based

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Speaker 3: on that summary. I didn't really see the shots.

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Speaker 4: Hello, oh here I am.

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Speaker 5: I think he was saying that he wasn't giving the

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Speaker 5: Patriots a seat at the table in the AFC East

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Speaker 5: because he's mentioned the Jets and the Dolphins. But I mean,

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Speaker 5: to be fair, Brady is going to be on Fox

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Speaker 5: as an analyst, and you know, whether you think he's

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Speaker 5: actually going to take that job or not, he's going

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01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 5: to have to be somewhat objective and he can't just

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Speaker 5: wave the pomp pomps for the Patriots all the time.

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Speaker 2: And he is going to be part owner of the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, But my point is like saying that the Jets

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Speaker 3: and the Dolphins have improved and not really you know,

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Speaker 3: talking about the like, that's not a shot, right right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, did you take that as a shot? No?

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Speaker 3: I guess we didn't hear it, so maybe it came off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the most optimistic Patriot fan would

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Speaker 3: have to say on paper, the Patriots are fourth in

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Speaker 3: the division. Again, Evan's been saying it about Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: for weeks now, like he's not buying it. If Aaron

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Speaker 3: Rodgers doesn't work with the Jets, of the Patriots will

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Speaker 3: finish probably like they did last year, neck and neck

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Speaker 3: with the Jets, maybe one game ahead like they did

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Speaker 3: last year. If Rogers works, the Jets are probably going

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Speaker 3: to finish ahead of the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: They could finish ahead of the Bills. Who knows, David,

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Speaker 2: No one knows.

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Speaker 3: That's the beauty of it.

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Speaker 2: David and Bethlehem.

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Speaker 3: Wait till after the season to judge the schedule.

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Speaker 2: Would you rather sign Hopkins or use that money to

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Speaker 2: extend u j Duggar or Mills? Can't do everything's David

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Speaker 2: and Bethlehem.

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Speaker 3: It's not how it works.

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Speaker 4: Do you think you need to say money to extend

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Speaker 4: Jalen Mills?

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Speaker 3: And you think it's gonna cost you to sign Hopkins

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Speaker 3: what it would cost you to extend Oo Jay Duggar.

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Speaker 5: And it's also just not how it works. Whatever, like

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Speaker 5: Ja and Duggar's contracts are, they're going to be extended

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Speaker 5: for next season, so they're gonna play this season under

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Speaker 5: their current contract and then the next season is when

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Speaker 5: the cap will increase on those two guys, not this season,

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Speaker 5: and so you're you're not taking the money from the

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Speaker 5: same Pool.

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Speaker 3: Don't ever change because that's the way that Boston fans

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Speaker 3: think about their teams. I don't understand it. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why you but it's just actually inaccurate. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: it's not how it works. Yeah, I think Deandrew Hobbins

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Speaker 3: is a really good player, and but how's that going

1493
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Speaker 3: to work on the cap? Figure it out? Figure it out.

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Speaker 3: That's your job. They have guys that that's their sole

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Speaker 3: responsibilities to figure out the salary cap.

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Speaker 2: Figure it out, Jessin Connecticut, are the joint practices open

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Speaker 2: to the public. I'm going to be in Green Bay

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Speaker 2: for the joint practice and I would love to go

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Speaker 2: to it. If they're open to the public. If you

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Speaker 2: have any details on them, what days they are, that

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Speaker 2: would be appreciated.

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Speaker 4: So it just should be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so look at the green Bay game and it'll

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Speaker 2: be you know that Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday before no with

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Speaker 2: games on Friday, green.

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Speaker 5: Bay games on Saturday Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday in green Bay and

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Speaker 2: green Bay will because it's their place, they'll be the ones. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: probably sixteenth and seventeenth, And knowing green Bay, I would

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Speaker 2: imagine they will be open to the public probably you know, the.

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Speaker 3: Public, right.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say I think joint practices have to

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Speaker 3: be open, but I don't know that for sure.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, Anthony in Seattle wants to have us explain

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Speaker 2: pigging an urban setting. It flew over my head city

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Speaker 2: south city sou pigging an urban setting.

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Speaker 3: Apparently the urban setting would be city, right right.

1520
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 5: Apparently it's not. You don't pronounce it's sow though. Oh really,

1521
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 5: that's just what.

1522
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: Who doesn't pronounce his name?

1523
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 5: His honor city Sue is Sue?

1524
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 2: Oh city, Sue, City Sue.

1525
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 3: Like that changes the whole.

1526
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 5: It changes the whole, it does, So what's going.

1527
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 4: That's why we can't be like like an urban re

1528
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 4: litigious person like Sue says.

1529
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 5: Listen. This is according to Phil Perry, who I trust on.

1530
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 5: He's good with the names because he goes and he

1531
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 5: finds them talking about their names in college, right, like

1532
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 5: you know, he found like the other day Kishan Booty

1533
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 5: told the reporter at l SU, it's.

1534
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 4: Booty booty, but he said it like booty body booty,

1535
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 4: like it was like booty. It was like no booty

1536
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 4: because you got to have the Louisy in a twang

1537
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 4: in there, right?

1538
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 3: He does.

1539
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 2: Also, Evan, can you please elaborate on how your new

1540
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,839
Speaker 2: baby nephew, Jason is named after your great uncle Jerry,

1541
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: because at face value, I'm pretty sure he's not.

1542
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 5: That's a good point. I can't tell you. But I

1543
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 5: didnt see him yesterday and he how's he doing?

1544
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1545
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 4: Hanging in there. Yeah, that's cool, getting waight hair falling out.

1546
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 5: It's getting a little bigger. Yeah, it's definitely a little

1547
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 5: bigger than than than day one when I when I

1548
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 5: saw him. So can I just die zero?

1549
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 3: That's really?

1550
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 4: Can I bring up some Felger and mass stuff to discuss?

1551
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 3: I was listening transition stuff.

1552
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 4: I have been listening, no I I yeah, I tuned

1553
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 4: in yesterday. I just thought it was interesting that so

1554
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 4: they were kind of talking about the fight a little bit,

1555
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 4: and and and I didn't know who they were talking

1556
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 4: about it first, and they were kind of saying, you know,

1557
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 4: this is a guy who's been here for a little bit,

1558
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 4: like he should be a leader. This shouldn't be happening.

1559
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 4: And I should say too. I didn't know at first

1560
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 4: that that they were talking about the fight. I just

1561
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 4: heard them talking about a player that was here and

1562
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 4: should be a leader and those kind of things. And

1563
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 4: then it, you know, came to light that they were

1564
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 4: talking about Barmore, and I was a little bit like,

1565
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't really like necessarily need everybody

1566
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 4: to be a leader all the time, like, and I

1567
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 4: didn't like what I saw from the practice, but I

1568
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 4: was just curious what you guys kind of thought about

1569
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 4: about Barmore in that regard. But also, like you know,

1570
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 4: talking aigger.

1571
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 3: Play and he plays, I don't really like, I don't

1572
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 3: know him to be everything. I just need him to

1573
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: be a good player.

1574
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 4: But I found myself wondering, just like because we talked

1575
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 4: to Douggar the other day, and I mean, he's just

1576
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 4: he's so straight laced and and you know, tough as

1577
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 4: tough as anything to get like, you know, any kind

1578
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 4: of personality or interesting stuff out of you know, do

1579
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 4: you think that this is something like like are we

1580
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 4: waiting for new leaders to emerge here? Like do you

1581
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 4: think that there's a little bit of a vacuum right now?

1582
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 20: Yeah?

1583
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 4: I love te trick wise, and I think that he,

1584
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 4: you know, speaks well for the team. And David Andrews

1585
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,959
Speaker 4: but you know, those guys are kind of the lone holdovers,

1586
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 4: and you know, you lose mccordy, and you know, Slater's

1587
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 4: getting up there, and I'm kind of waiting for like

1588
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 4: practice with the team right right, you know, But but

1589
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,759
Speaker 4: I'm waiting for, you know, some of these new guys

1590
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 4: to just step up it and feel like vocal leaders

1591
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 4: to me. And I don't really see any new players,

1592
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 4: you know, And and look, everybody can't do it. And I

1593
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 4: love Kyle Dugger as a player, and you don't have

1594
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,839
Speaker 4: to be a vocal leader to be a good football

1595
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 4: player to have a spot on a team. But I

1596
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 4: just found myself feeling like they're they're relying still on

1597
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 4: the same kind of guys. And when some of these

1598
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 4: young guys get up to talk, I'm not really hearing

1599
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 4: people talk about the team or talk about what we

1600
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 4: have to do. It's always kind of left to these

1601
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 4: older veterans. And so it just left me wondering of,

1602
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 4: you know, who are the next guy's going to be?

1603
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 4: I mean, I know Mac, but you know, I just

1604
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 4: I'm so used to Rodney Harrison, Willy, you know Willy,

1605
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 4: and you know all those guys that just kind of

1606
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 4: spoke for the team and spoke about, you know, what

1607
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 4: we have to do and those kind of things, and

1608
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 4: it's just as mccordy leaves it, it feels like that

1609
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 4: number of guys is dwindling and not really finding new guys.

1610
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 4: Not that I expected Duggar to do it, but he

1611
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 4: could have been the kind of guy who's up for

1612
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 4: a long term contract to you know, hey, it seems

1613
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 4: like he's taking ownership of this team now a little

1614
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 4: bit instead of just being like one of the guys

1615
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 4: who you know needs to be told like what we have.

1616
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 2: To do to win games. It's interesting. I'm not even sure, Like,

1617
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: obviously Mac needs to be a leader, but beyond that,

1618
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: who should it be. I don't know the answer to that.

1619
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 5: I think the one guy that stands out to me

1620
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 5: when we hear we talked to him is Joan Bentley,

1621
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 5: Like he's an intense, well spoken guy that you know

1622
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 5: it does have some personality, does have some uh good answers,

1623
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 5: I think when we talked to him, and I think

1624
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 5: he could be someone that that fits that. But you're right,

1625
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 5: I mean they don't have I mean those guys were titans, right,

1626
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 5: like McGuinness and Bruski and Vrabel, like those guys were

1627
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 5: cut from a different cloth. And I don't even know,

1628
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 5: And this is a shot at people my age and younger.

1629
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 5: I don't even know if those people exist anymore. To

1630
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 5: be honest with you, like, I don't know if that

1631
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 5: type of mentality and that type of person really exists

1632
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 5: at that level where you know, McGinnis was, you know,

1633
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 5: notorious for being like one of those types of guys

1634
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 5: that helped and and was it was all about that

1635
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 5: and every I don't know. I don't know if this

1636
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 5: generation does it the same way.

1637
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 4: I like your Bentley example, but it's just my only

1638
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 4: and I love the guy, but he's also it's just

1639
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 4: he's a player that everybody kind of sums up as like, well,

1640
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 4: that's a problem. We got to get rid of Bentley.

1641
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 4: We got to have a more mobile middle linebacker. You know,

1642
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 4: like you never said like, oh, yeah, Will, he's a leader,

1643
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 4: but we got to get rid of him, you know,

1644
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 4: like like that's and that's you know, that's a stupid,

1645
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 4: probably ancillary thing. But yeah, I mean I do really

1646
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 4: like Bentley. I just I wonder with some of these

1647
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 4: younger guys if if they're going to take roles.

1648
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: On now, But who do you think it should be.

1649
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I, like I said, I wanted it to

1650
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 4: be Doug Er, but I mean, I think, you know what, Fred,

1651
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 4: it probably speaks more to the fact that the team

1652
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 4: just doesn't have a lot of young star players right now.

1653
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 4: And I think sometimes that you're a star, you get

1654
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 4: that kind of mojo, people acknowledge it. And maybe that's

1655
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,919
Speaker 4: why I'm putting it a little bit on Kyle Duggart

1656
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 4: just you know, And I don't I don't want to

1657
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 4: make an example out of him because I just don't

1658
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 4: think that is who he is. He's just serious football guy.

1659
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 4: He wants to talk ball. He doesn't, you know, really

1660
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 4: want to worry about all that other stuff.

1661
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 5: But I think Christian Gonzales is kind of the same

1662
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 5: way though, like he's a little bit more soft spoken,

1663
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 5: and I don't know, I just don't know if that

1664
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 5: guy exists.

1665
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: To Evan's point, let's look at the Super Bowl champs,

1666
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Obviously Mahomes is the leader beyond him, who

1667
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 2: is it, kel Jones?

1668
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 3: Kelsey?

1669
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: I think Kelsey is a leader?

1670
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 3: Yeah really, okay, Frock style, I think Chris Jones up

1671
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 3: front defense Gronk style.

1672
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't have called Gronk one of the vocal

1673
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 2: leaders of the team.

1674
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 5: But Gronk was a planet player, right, like, like people

1675
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 5: got behind Gronk and and did it the right way.

1676
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, for all the there's a lot of similarities between

1677
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 3: Kelsey and Gronk. Now, I've always found Gronk more likable

1678
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 3: than Kelsey. Maybe that's because I'm a Patriots honk like

1679
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 3: everybody else. But I think for all their you know,

1680
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 3: clownish behavior, their work ethic was never to be questioned,

1681
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 3: both of them. Yeah, you know, and like Evan said,

1682
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 3: planet players, so it's easy to lead that way. And

1683
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 3: I do think that they had the team in mind,

1684
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 3: you know, with how they go about their business. Like

1685
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 3: you don't hear a lot about Kelsey. I mean, everybody

1686
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 3: has some things, but you don't hear them, like blowing

1687
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 3: off training camp because he's looking for a new contract

1688
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 3: or whatever, or you know, he misses a game with

1689
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 3: a bad ankle and it turns into a missus a

1690
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 3: month with a bad ankle. You don't hear that a

1691
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 3: lot with those guys. I think those are leaders, like

1692
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 3: you don't have to be necessary by the book. You know,

1693
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:04,919
Speaker 3: he's the leader. He does like Devin.

1694
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 2: Mccordy at the podium.

1695
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think that those guys, I think

1696
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 3: a lot of those teams they take their lead to

1697
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 3: you A point, Mike about like, where do you find it?

1698
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 3: You know, young or old? I don't know if you

1699
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 3: guys caught the ESPN thing that came out today. I

1700
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 3: think it was Seth Walder a Wilder, I might be

1701
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 3: mispronouncing that it was behind the paywall on ESPN plus,

1702
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 3: he ranked the cores top five players he defined as

1703
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 3: the core for every NFL team, and the Patriots ranked

1704
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 3: twenty seventh. It was mac judea on, uh are you

1705
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 3: looking this up there?

1706
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 5: Because I know what you're talking about.

1707
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 3: So the Patriots ranked twenty seventh in that there was

1708
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 3: only two AFC teams behind them. Indianapolis and Houston were

1709
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 3: the only two AFC teams behind them in terms of

1710
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 3: the core of the team. And it's not necessarily young core,

1711
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 3: like Aaron Rodgers is a core for the Jets right now.

1712
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 3: So it's just the five players that you determine as

1713
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 3: your core. So when you look at that Dougger, it

1714
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,679
Speaker 3: was it was Dougger Judon, Mac.

1715
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 5: And I got to log in far more.

1716
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 3: Ch I think was was one. So it should like

1717
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 3: that's your core your team, right, you should think that

1718
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 3: that's where your leaders are coming from.

1719
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 5: Mac, Judon, Dougger, Mike on.

1720
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 3: Win You okay, so Dougger and the when you were

1721
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: in contract years O three, So three of the five

1722
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 3: are in contract years. So you might say, like that's

1723
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 3: where I wanted to come from. Well you have to

1724
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 3: retain them. You know, a guy who's been around a

1725
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 3: lot longer than people realize, Jonathan Jones, is he just

1726
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 3: not that kind of a player. He's not really that

1727
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 3: outspoken leader type.

1728
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so.

1729
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 3: So like sometimes just hard, you know, and you know

1730
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 3: sometimes you know those kinds of guys like Willie and

1731
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 3: Bruski and Vrabel, they don't they don't grow on Rodney,

1732
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 3: they don't grow on trees.

1733
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 4: I mean with them though, is the absence of that

1734
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 4: something that you feel like the team lacks or is

1735
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 4: it just something that has to develop organically as they

1736
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 4: turn the corner and become a better team.

1737
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 3: I would go with b. I think that they need

1738
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,719
Speaker 3: talent more than they need you know, like I think

1739
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 3: the bigger problem they have right now to me is

1740
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 3: the lack of high end talent than the lack of leadership.

1741
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think they need both. Of course,

1742
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 2: I think you need that. You need those people you

1743
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 2: know during the week who just regulate.

1744
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 3: I wonder what, like, say, the leadership hierarchy is in

1745
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 3: Los Angeles with the Chargers, for example, who I think

1746
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 3: do have some high end talent. Now, I don't think

1747
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 3: there's talented as a lot of people say they are,

1748
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 3: but I do think they have a pretty talented roster,

1749
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 3: certainly one that's built, built well enough to win a

1750
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 3: playoff game. You know, they had a playoff game in

1751
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 3: the bag last year that they kicked away. But I

1752
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 3: wonder what that hierarchy looks like. I wonder what would

1753
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 3: like Joey Bosa and Derwyn James, those kinds of players.

1754
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 3: I wonder if that I don't know them, I'm not

1755
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 3: telling you they don't, but I wonder if those guys

1756
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 3: are strong leaders as well as being the best players.

1757
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 4: And one part of that, too, I think is that

1758
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 4: the guys we mentioned, the Patriot guys, those guys were

1759
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 4: all kind of they weren't They didn't just come to

1760
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 4: New England in ninety five ninety six and have it

1761
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 4: like they went to AFC Championship, they went to Super Bowl,

1762
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 4: they lost. I mean, they were established veterans who have

1763
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 4: been here a while. But I'd like to tie this

1764
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 4: actually to Paul and Matt's pats from the past with

1765
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 4: Scott Peoli that I listened to, which was excellent, I mean,

1766
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 4: different than the rest of them. And if if anybody

1767
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 4: hasn't heard bullparts, they're they're great, except for the shot

1768
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 4: Paul took a Sharon, but that asides. One of the

1769
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 4: interesting things that Peoli said was that we never had

1770
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 4: to worry about the locker room at all because Willie

1771
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 4: and all those guys they had it on lock They

1772
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 4: knew exactly what what needed to be done. They kept

1773
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 4: everybody in line, and Bill and Romeo and Charlie and

1774
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 4: all those guys could just focus on coaching, and you

1775
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 4: know that. I think maybe that's where I kind of

1776
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 4: got this initial idea in my head of you know,

1777
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 4: certainly last year it seemed like the Lockman wasn't policing

1778
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 4: itself like that there was I mean, it was it

1779
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 4: was as divided.

1780
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 3: As it's probably been.

1781
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so just how do you how do

1782
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 4: you get back to that?

1783
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 3: And it's it's a tough question.

1784
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 2: Jason writes in we should get the hot regardless of

1785
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 2: his age, because simply having him on the field commands

1786
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 2: respect and could open up other opportunities for the other

1787
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 2: receivers such as Barren Thornton plus Casseki and Henry. We

1788
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: need all the help we can get. Love the show.

1789
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: Side note, I don't think the Jets are going to

1790
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: be as good as advertised with Rogers. Okay, was that.

1791
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 5: Me like my burner or something I knew?

1792
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 3: I took this service as a stunning line. I thought

1793
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 3: among Patriots fans, I don't think that the Jets are

1794
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 3: going to be as good as people right.

1795
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 5: I thought when you brought up Paul Shows, I thought

1796
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 5: you were going in a different direction, which I kind

1797
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 5: of find interesting. This the biggest narrative around this team

1798
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 5: right now is that the head coach and the quarterback

1799
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 5: don't talk to each other at practice. Like that's that's

1800
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 5: the biggest thing. I just think it's hilarious, Like I

1801
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 5: think it's so funny that the people go out there

1802
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 5: and like do you take notes of like, oh, Bill,

1803
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 5: at this portion of practice. Bill is standing here in

1804
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 5: Mac was standing there.

1805
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 3: That's a big Greg bdardism, Like he goes on, he

1806
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 3: goes on with them, and this is you can call

1807
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 3: me like spiteful because they're not having me on. But

1808
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 3: he goes on and that's what they talk about. And

1809
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 3: he says, yeah, you know, Bill doesn't go anywhere near Mac,

1810
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 3: Like how did you even know? Like why were you watching?

1811
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 6: That?

1812
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 3: Is my first My first reaction is geez, I get,

1813
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 3: I guess that's true, but I didn't really notice it.

1814
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 3: I just watched the practice.

1815
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 5: Well, he keeps saying that Keon White wasn't at the

1816
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 5: first practice because he was.

1817
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 3: He said it again.

1818
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 5: Did you hear he's probably spending too much time watching Bill?

1819
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 3: And I did hear that when he was on on

1820
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 3: Tuesday because Mike goes there. Well, I got, I gotta

1821
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 3: let it go.

1822
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 4: But he gave We gave Greg a little crap when

1823
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 4: we were we did. We were on the side of

1824
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 4: like out there are he reached out. But I gotta

1825
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 4: be honest with you. I still don't think that he

1826
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 4: believes that he was out there.

1827
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 5: But so you guys, you guys don't make anything of

1828
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,839
Speaker 5: Bill and back not not being best.

1829
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 3: About I'll watch it now. I'll watch what I do

1830
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 3: think if if they really don't talk, I don't think

1831
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 3: that's good. No, he should be me. But I'm not

1832
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 3: willing to accept the premise. Do you know what I mean? Somebody,

1833
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 3: I haven't really noticed that that's the kid, but maybe it.

1834
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 5: Is because your your shows. Then take it to the

1835
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 5: next step and say that now mister Kraft has told

1836
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 5: Bill that Bill O'Brien is in charge of the offense

1837
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 5: and that Bill and Belichick needs to stay away from

1838
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 5: the offense because Bill O'Brien, it's Bill O'Brien's show in Belichick.

1839
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 2: That's where I.

1840
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 3: Would completely divest of that, because Josh was in charge

1841
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 3: of the offense. But Bill always talked to Tom, like

1842
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 3: I know that Tom. Tom Curran has had this thing

1843
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 3: that like the last nine years, they didn't really talk.

1844
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 3: They didn't Bill wasn't involved in the planning of the

1845
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 3: offensive planning meetings, and that I'm not telling you with

1846
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 3: one hundred percent certainty that that's not true. I don't

1847
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 3: believe that to be true.

1848
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 5: That they didn't talk to Tuesday meeting at the very end,

1849
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 5: at the very end.

1850
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was true. I think Nick Cassario

1851
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 3: was involved in those meetings with Josh and Tom, and

1852
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 3: I don't think Bill was as involved as he was before.

1853
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 3: But I've watched training camp for a hundred years and

1854
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 3: I've seen Tom and Bill side by side all the

1855
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 3: time for you know, certainly within the last nine years,

1856
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 3: which is what it was sort of purported to be.

1857
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 3: If they don't talk at all, and that's a thing,

1858
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 3: like they really don't talk, that's a problem. Yeah, that's

1859
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 3: like Dan Reeves, John Elway. Now you can win if

1860
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 3: you if you're that good. But they hated each other.

1861
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 5: But I it's a problem if they don't talk, because

1862
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 5: that's just not a good way to run your team, right.

1863
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 5: But at the same time, like I'm okay with Bill

1864
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 5: O'Brien being the one that has the final running on

1865
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 5: the conference, Bill Belichick, you got your chance last year

1866
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 5: to run the offense and it didn't go so high,

1867
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 5: So like, let's let's let's let somebody else do. It's like,

1868
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 5: I'm okay with that.

1869
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 3: We all wanted let's get back to normal, right, So

1870
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 3: we got that, and Bill's running the offense and now

1871
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 3: everybody's looking at like, whoa Bill O'Brien's running the offense.

1872
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 5: Bill is.

1873
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 3: Spellichick not talking to mac jont Well, that's a problem. Like, yeah,

1874
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 3: I mean I think that we all want Bill O'Brien

1875
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 3: to run the offense, but we still want the head

1876
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 3: coach involved in everything, overseeing everything.

1877
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 4: I want those Tuesday meetings still happening, but I want

1878
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 4: Max sitting down picking BB's brain every Tuesday, you know.

1879
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 5: Right, that was the whole thing was. You know, Camp

1880
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 5: said that that Bill has like a crystal ball because

1881
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 5: he breaks down the opposing defense as a defensive coach

1882
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 5: and says, these are the three things that they're gonna

1883
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 5: do to us schematically, and then he's able to then

1884
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 5: tell the quarterback expect this. You look for that, like

1885
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,759
Speaker 5: those types of things, And that's what those Tuesday meetings

1886
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 5: were all about. So if you're you got to have

1887
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 5: that at least, but in terms of like the schematics

1888
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 5: and the game plans and the schemes that they're installing

1889
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 5: into the offense, like that's that's Bob show.

1890
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 2: Now.

1891
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 4: You know what I didn't have on my BINGO card

1892
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 4: was the picture that we put out on Twitter of

1893
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 4: Belichick like apparently doing stand up comedy for Lagerrett Blunt

1894
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 4: and uh and.

1895
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 3: Aaron Dobson like that.

1896
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 4: I like, and he builds like telling him a joke,

1897
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 4: like he looked like he was doing the stuff, Like

1898
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,799
Speaker 4: I missed the whole thing, like Chung and everybody.

1899
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 5: I also got to talk to Adler about why he

1900
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 5: keeps on taking photos of other reporters. What about the

1901
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 5: reporters the Patriots dot com. He's always putting pictus of escular.

1902
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 3: I don't restrain, I don't need anything.

1903
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 5: I made a picture of Polly Perillo.

1904
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 3: How many cameras are on you?

1905
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 4: How about me in my chair? My cool?

1906
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 3: You know, come on, I might need the chair.

1907
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 2: Merphs and Connecticut on the Acetic hotline. What's up, Murphy?

1908
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 18: Gentlemen, For the.

1909
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 7: First time in a decade, I'm calling into a show.

1910
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:10,839
Speaker 7: It is it is. It is pronounced city sew sewing machine.

1911
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 3: So that's the third that's the third third different.

1912
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 5: I think I got it wrong in my explanation.

1913
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 7: Soon, great, great show today, guys. And Gonzales. Yeah, he's

1914
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 7: got to start week one. The only thing everybody is

1915
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 7: is missing here is we don't need Gonzales to be

1916
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 7: a shutdown corner for everybody's number one. We need Gonzales

1917
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 7: to be a shutdown corner for everybody's number two.

1918
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: That's it.

1919
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 2: Huh, Okay, have a great day. Yeah, I mean, by

1920
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: the way, no, I mean that's been a way to

1921
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 2: do it. You know in the past, you put your

1922
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 2: best guy in there two and then you double their one.

1923
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 3: I don't like that.

1924
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I like it.

1925
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying, like week one, he has to

1926
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 3: shut down the other team's best player, but eventually I

1927
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 3: need him to be that kind of a player that

1928
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 3: I can line up against the other team's best player

1929
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 3: and I feel good about that.

1930
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1931
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like I said, doesn't have to be like

1932
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 3: right away, right, but when I yeah that that guy

1933
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 3: eventually needs to be a guy feel good about every

1934
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 3: matchup that he's involved.

1935
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 5: So week one, you see on a J. Brown or

1936
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 5: DeVante Smith sides, well this is.

1937
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 3: This is like my whole thing about like he just

1938
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 3: needs to shut down the number two.

1939
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 5: Okay, so who's the number two?

1940
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 3: Who's the number two?

1941
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 5: That's why I'm asking.

1942
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't like the idea of you

1943
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 3: shut down the number two and then double the one.

1944
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 3: I don't like that.

1945
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 4: I think just play sides.

1946
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1947
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 4: I mean, are they still a travel team like in Man?

1948
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's still going to be a thing.

1949
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 5: Like they played man like thirty five percent of the

1950
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 5: time last year, which was high. Believe it or not.

1951
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 5: That how much time? Yeah, which is like eighth highest

1952
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:55,759
Speaker 5: in the league.

1953
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 3: Thirty five percent man is eighth highest in the league. See,

1954
01:27:58,280 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 3: those are numbers, you know how. I always like, I

1955
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 3: need you know where the numbers relate. That to me,

1956
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 3: sounds like a low.

1957
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 2: Learn that from.

1958
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 5: I just say that. You always say the teams play

1959
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 5: a lot less man than you would be less to believe.

1960
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 3: Certainly less than I would believe, because it's hard.

1961
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: It's hard, Franklin and Baltimore writes, and I wanted to

1962
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 2: comment on something brought up on the last show, which

1963
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 2: is that isn't the reason why the fans discuss so

1964
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 2: much about the cost of signing players, because Bill's cost

1965
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 2: effective approach has been his mo o during his tenure here. Yes,

1966
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 2: I too find the whole thing pointless to talk about

1967
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 2: because none of that money is coming out of our

1968
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 2: respective pockets, and we should want the Patriots to sign

1969
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: every good player. But I do think also as a fan,

1970
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 2: we can't ignore the BB value skill position players specifically

1971
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 2: at different differently than the rest of the league, which

1972
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: is why myopically we go over contracts. I do want

1973
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 2: to stress again that I find the topic pointless and

1974
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 2: don't engage with it personally.

1975
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 3: I think I think he's right. No, I think he's

1976
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 3: absolutely right. I think Bill has brainwashed the fandom into

1977
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 3: thinking that's why they've had success.

1978
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 5: Yep.

1979
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:17,560
Speaker 3: And I also because of financial Uh.

1980
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 5: Couldn't agree more.

1981
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't responsibility. Of the top of my.

1982
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 4: Head, I couldn't tell you like the three worst contracts

1983
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 4: he's given up, but I can tell you the three

1984
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 4: worst draft picks that he's given up. Like the draft

1985
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:28,600
Speaker 4: picks is what that when you go to try to

1986
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 4: get like you spend a second round pick on Mohammed Sanu. Like,

1987
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 4: that's the things that bugged me. As far as Ben

1988
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 4: burning assets, he.

1989
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 5: Has convinced everybody that wide receivers are a dime a dozen,

1990
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 5: that overpaying for wide receivers and drafting receivers in the

1991
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 5: first round, which they've only ever done one time and

1992
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 5: we know how that turned out, and paying them in

1993
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 5: free agency or trading five draft picks for Tyreek Hill

1994
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 5: is a ridiculous trade, and he has convinced people that

1995
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 5: is to be is that's true? And I disagree with

1996
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 5: him on it, Like that's that's one of my biggest

1997
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 5: pet peeves up with him out of all of it,

1998
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 5: especially just looking at how maybe that was true twenty

1999
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 5: years ago, but that is no longer true now. And

2000
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 5: I think the rest of the teams around the league.

2001
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 5: So you know, Philly they spent a first round pick

2002
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 5: on Devonte Smith and they traded for A J. Brown?

2003
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 5: Are they in a bad shape? Did they do it poorly? Like?

2004
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 5: You know, it's not just because I feel this way

2005
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 5: because I like fantasy football, like these other teams that

2006
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 5: have done it differently than you are in the Super Bowl.

2007
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say the two parts of that are

2008
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 3: the salary cap itself was once an enormous part of

2009
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 3: how you You couldn't just sign every great player that

2010
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 3: you want. He talked about the peel in yeah, and

2011
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 3: I even got Scotts would make it.

2012
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 6: Ye.

2013
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 3: You know back then when you were dealing with like

2014
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 3: one hundred million dollar salary cap, give or take, Yeah,

2015
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 3: you couldn't afford to be making too many mistakes. You

2016
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 3: couldn't afford to be signing all of the best players

2017
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 3: because you did have to find a way to get

2018
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 3: enough players in to help you. Now that the cap

2019
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 3: is not anywhere near as restrictive, people have learned how

2020
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 3: to go like that learned Floyd contract that Buffalo signed.

2021
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. That shouldn't be allowed. You shouldn't be able

2022
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 3: to do that. You sign him, so the guy makes

2023
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 3: something like nine million dollars and you're only paying him

2024
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 3: like two on the cap because he's got like incentive

2025
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 3: for this and void year for that, and it's just

2026
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 3: all a bunch of crap. It's all bookkeeping, is all

2027
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 3: the salary cap is. And yeah, if you do that

2028
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 3: and lended Floyd stinks. Yeah it's not great. But if

2029
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 3: he's good, it's not gonna hurt you next year, you know.

2030
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 3: And I just don't really understand why people haven't figured

2031
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 3: that out yet. And that's that it's the financial landscape

2032
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 3: of the league has changed so dramatically.

2033
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 5: And that's where the cash spending argument comes in because

2034
01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 5: other teams like the Eagles, you know, to use them

2035
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 5: as as an example, they pay their way out of

2036
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 5: cap jail. So they add these void years or they

2037
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 5: you know, convert salary to signing bonuses and they just

2038
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 5: literally pay their way out of hell. You know, New

2039
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 5: Orleans they do it every year. Every year New Orleans

2040
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 5: is like fifty million dollars over the cap, and every

2041
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 5: year they somehow figure out a way to be under

2042
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 5: When the time the.

2043
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 3: Individual season I always use for the Patriots is seven,

2044
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 3: you couldn't be all any more all in than the

2045
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 3: Patriots were in seven. They were aggressive and free agency.

2046
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 3: They signed big money players, they traded for guys. They

2047
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 3: gave a guy like Wes Welker. At the time, that

2048
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,839
Speaker 3: was a big contract. Seven. I know it sounds stupid,

2049
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 3: five years, seventeen million. At the time, that was a

2050
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 3: big contract, and they went all in. It's it. They

2051
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 3: didn't win and it didn't fall apart. It didn't fall

2052
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 3: apart like it was the next year the quarterback towards

2053
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 3: ACL and they still went eleven and five. That's how

2054
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 3: good that team was. It's one of the it's one of.

2055
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 4: Paul's most interesting takes that you have in your in

2056
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 4: your take bag of they could have got more.

2057
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 3: You know, had they been more aggressed that they could.

2058
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 3: That's more of an off air one. That's not one

2059
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 3: I like to share on because I understand a how

2060
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 3: spoiled it makes me sound, and b it's like comes

2061
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 3: off as like I'm criticizing Belichick at the winning six titles,

2062
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 3: but I don't necessarily mean it that way. But I

2063
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 3: do feel like if they were all in a little

2064
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 3: bit more like does anybody does anybody anywhere, forget New England?

2065
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 3: Does anybody anywhere not think that the Patriots would have

2066
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 3: beat in Chicago you O six and the Super Bowl? Right?

2067
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 2: Of course they would.

2068
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:39,759
Speaker 3: Okay, So what.

2069
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:40,640
Speaker 4: Was that contract you were holding on?

2070
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 3: Why did you Why did you lose to the Colts?

2071
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 3: Besides the fact that they pumped the flu into the

2072
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 3: locker room front, they lost of the Colts because that

2073
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 3: game was in Indy? Does anybody think that.

2074
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 5: India would have come back from twenty one?

2075
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 3: You're getting to my point. That game was in Indy

2076
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 3: because you had Rehae Caldwell as your number one receiver

2077
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 3: and Gabbard Gaffney signed off the street in the middle

2078
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 3: of the year and Doug Gabriel catching passes. That's the

2079
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 3: only reason why you were on the road in the

2080
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:10,520
Speaker 3: AFC Championship game that you still should have won. Yeah.

2081
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 3: So like if you had tried everything in your power

2082
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 3: to keep either Givens or Branch, that's another title.

2083
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 4: Yeah right, Branch. I mean what was the branch?

2084
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 2: When?

2085
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 4: What was he hung up over? Like in retrospect, it

2086
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 4: probably seems ridiculous and everybody just.

2087
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 3: Looks wouldn't give him that? No, he probably did get overpaid,

2088
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 3: but you would have won another super Bowl if you

2089
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 3: kept him.

2090
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 4: And who's like lamenting, Well we got one, but you know,

2091
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 4: we really played on Branch a lot of money more

2092
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 4: than I would have given him. But like who, like

2093
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 4: who roots that way?

2094
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 3: That's more of an off air because.

2095
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 4: I'll save that one.

2096
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 5: It's a take.

2097
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:44,879
Speaker 3: It's a good one though, just sounds so spoiled.

2098
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 4: But I think it's an interesting it's an interesting discussion,

2099
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, like, look, we are spoiled, and

2100
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:51,640
Speaker 4: you know half the time it's you know, going in

2101
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:53,879
Speaker 4: the other direction. You know you're complaining, but I don't.

2102
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 2: Know, there's so many things, even for great teams, so

2103
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 2: many things have to happen to go all the way

2104
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,640
Speaker 2: and to do it as many times it's it's like

2105
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 2: I I can't you know, maybe they could have won more,

2106
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 2: but the fact that they won six I think is amazing.

2107
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 3: It is, and that's why I don't like to spend

2108
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 3: a lot of time doing that one. I'll talk about

2109
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 3: it off here with anybody.

2110
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 5: I just I will never forget Caldwell's wide eyes after

2111
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 5: he dropped the ball, and.

2112
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 2: Just Sam Martin hasn't gotten his T shirt, Matt Jeez.

2113
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 3: Sam Martin, former returner for the Patriots. So Sammy Martin.

2114
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 2: He was the one that answered where Evans's favorite sub

2115
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 2: shop is. He says he hasn't gotten his jersey mics.

2116
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 5: He turned that for lunch.

2117
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:41,520
Speaker 3: I've had some operational turnover in the admin department.

2118
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 4: Oh the shipping are you?

2119
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 2: Are you putting stamp postage on these things? You're just

2120
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 2: like throwing it in the mail, these pre packaged ones,

2121
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 2: pre pat you still have to put postage on it,

2122
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 2: you know, not these ones.

2123
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 12: You just put it in and fill out the address

2124
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 12: and then send them in.

2125
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 2: Are you sure about that? That's just an envelope.

2126
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 5: People have gotten their T shirts with these.

2127
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 3: There's nothing I don't know about that.

2128
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 2: I think you still have to run it through the

2129
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 2: postage meter. I don't know. I think there's some people

2130
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 2: at the US Post Office that are getting free T

2131
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 2: shirts Patriots on Filish Bob and Wilmington, North Carolina. Should

2132
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 2: the Patriots really concern themselves with trying to outperform Buffalo?

2133
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,600
Speaker 2: All they do is choke. They've never been able to

2134
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 2: perform when everything's on the line, and that includes their

2135
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 2: newest choker, Josh Allen, who subsequently just got on the

2136
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 2: cover of this year's Madden You know what that means

2137
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 2: insert bone cracking sound here, lifted. Buffalo had their chances

2138
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 2: back in the Kelly years, blew it, and they all

2139
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 2: squander these years they have with Alan and choke some more,

2140
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 2: and just like Paulo says, it always works out for

2141
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 2: the Patriots. Can you think of any other team that

2142
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 2: has choked more ever in the history of the world.

2143
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 2: Don't worry about Buffalo this year. The Patriots are going

2144
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,959
Speaker 2: to re establish themselves as the class of the AFC

2145
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 2: East and roll into the Super Bowl.

2146
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,839
Speaker 5: Okay, you had me with like that. Don't worry about Buffalo,

2147
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 5: But when you get to that end that stuff.

2148
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 3: I think there are some questions about Buffalo. Yeah, I

2149
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 3: think there are kind of a crossroads. But I would say,

2150
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 3: is it you know, I'll give you a controversial take.

2151
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 3: So the four, the four in a row that they lost, right,

2152
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 3: they choked four times, wide left, they choked once, yeah,

2153
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 3: wide left, wide right, whatever it was. Right, I was like,

2154
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:27,759
Speaker 3: that was a choke. They were better than the Giants,

2155
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 3: nor would the other three games. They weren't better than

2156
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 3: the team they lost to, especially the two Cowboys teams

2157
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 3: right and last year. I think you could call that

2158
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 3: a choke. That's a bad You can lose to Cincinnati

2159
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 3: at home, like like Kansas City lost at Cincinnati at

2160
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 3: home the year before, but you can't lose like that.

2161
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 3: They didn't they didn't show up. Yeah, the didn't come

2162
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 3: to play. Now, I think there's some extenuating circumstances, but

2163
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 3: that was a choke. I don't care, Like, I don't

2164
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 3: care what Buffalo guys want to, you know, write it

2165
01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 3: off as.

2166
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,759
Speaker 5: Taking some offfield stuff going on for that game.

2167
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, his guy, Mike's guy Diggs has been bitchy.

2168
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 5: For for a while. Then Josh Allen got broken up

2169
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 5: with Oh really like two days before the game.

2170
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that. He's rebounded pretty well, all right? Uh,

2171
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 3: Is that true? Yeah, punters quarterback? Did he tell you

2172
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 3: that when you met him?

2173
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 5: Because you guys are actually but she was with him

2174
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 5: when I when I did it look like and it

2175
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 5: looks and then that they gave the Patriots and and

2176
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 5: they happened they broke up. Yeah, and and oh this

2177
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 5: is like a whole rabbit hole that Bill's twitter has.

2178
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 3: That's not good news for Patriots. No, that's not good

2179
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 3: news for Patriots fans.

2180
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 5: So we come on here and we talk about like

2181
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 5: how you know, Bill and Mac don't talk to each other.

2182
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 5: They go on Bill's podcast and talk about Hailey Steinfeld

2183
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 5: and like, is this good for Josh Allen that he's

2184
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 5: dating Hailey Steinfeld? This is this is real?

2185
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 3: His lady before the playoff game, his lady.

2186
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 5: Dramas all over Buffalo right now.

2187
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 4: I just also with him, Like I just anytime you're

2188
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 4: going into a season with a quarterback who's like, you know,

2189
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 4: really you'd think on top of his game talking about

2190
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 4: how he has to change his game and stop taking

2191
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 4: chances and stuff like I just I wouldn't like that

2192
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 4: if I was, you know, if I was a Buffalo

2193
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 4: fan hearing that my quarterback is now in his own head,

2194
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 4: questioning how he's going to play, because I think some

2195
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 4: of the times he's most dangerous is when he just

2196
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 4: lets it rip, when he goes for it, you know.

2197
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 4: And I know it's dangerous, but I just wonder if

2198
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:24,719
Speaker 4: you're going to get a Josh Allen this year who's

2199
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 4: questioning himself on top of guys like Digs starting to

2200
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 4: be like, come on, like the window we like, this

2201
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 4: is it we got to win?

2202
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,680
Speaker 2: Is their stadium is supposed to be open six That

2203
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 2: was like a crazy little win in twenty twenty five.

2204
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 5: But it's a good point about their window. And their

2205
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 5: window is now clearly and they'll be in it with

2206
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 5: Josh Allen, I think until he he.

2207
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 3: Shows signs of not being able to fit play anymore.

2208
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 5: But I truly think that their window to maximize what

2209
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 5: they can put around him is happening right now. And

2210
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 5: his playing style it it's his playing side. It's like

2211
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 5: Brett Favre right, like are you going to reel in

2212
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 5: the Gunslinger? Or are you going to just live and

2213
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 5: die with it? You know? And and they've been living

2214
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 5: and dying with it and dying so uh.

2215
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 2: Boston Cream writes in congratulations to Evan on having a girlfriend.

2216
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 2: Eric could never so an obvious upgrade there.

2217
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 3: That's another good point. Kills it, kills it.

2218
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 5: Thanks.

2219
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 2: Let's see what are the base numbers if you were

2220
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 2: to guess that mac Jones needs to get the fifth

2221
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 2: year option from the team. So, like, how what's the

2222
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 2: minimum he has to do performance wise for the Patriots

2223
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 2: to say, Okay, we'll give you the option if.

2224
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 5: You combine Daniel Jones's entire production, Like, Ma's not going

2225
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 5: to rush for six hundred yards, so add that to

2226
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:46,600
Speaker 5: his passing total. If he has the same year that

2227
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones had last year production wise, then he'll get

2228
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 5: the fifth year option.

2229
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

2230
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 3: Back in the day, the Super Bowl used to be on

2231
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 3: at four o'clock.

2232
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 4: Now, this was the the game Brady was at. Is

2233
01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 4: that that?

2234
01:40:58,760 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 2: Yes?

2235
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, the catch game?

2236
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 4: The catch right?

2237
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:07,600
Speaker 3: I just love no, I I like I like Devin's

2238
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 3: thing there of Daniel Jones because I think that's, you know,

2239
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 3: you're not asking him to be Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen.

2240
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 3: You're asking him to do something average. And I think,

2241
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 3: chances are you guys are probably gonna be surprised. My answered.

2242
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 3: Chances are they they'll pick up his option.

2243
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 5: Well, just good to have the team control. Like, even

2244
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 5: if you don't end up being the team that keeps

2245
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,480
Speaker 5: him on the fifth year option, just to have the

2246
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 5: the option to keep him around is probably the smart thing.

2247
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:36,680
Speaker 4: I'm just not hung up on stats, like I mean,

2248
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 4: it's fine, but like I don't have I'd much rather

2249
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 4: have like see him, you know, go four in tune

2250
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 4: the division, you know, like knock off Buffalo and knock

2251
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 4: off Miami or knock off Kansas City. You know, just

2252
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 4: get a game where your backs up against the wins

2253
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 4: games like just show me that and show me you

2254
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 4: know that you've got some clutching the reason.

2255
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 3: Win some games in different ways either reason from behind.

2256
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,679
Speaker 5: I brought up Daniel Jones two because of the They're

2257
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 5: the Giant season last year. The arrow was pointing in

2258
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 5: the right direction for that team. I'm not a Daniel

2259
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 5: Jones believer, but they won a playoff game that they

2260
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 5: probably shouldn't have won right by beating Minnesota, and they're

2261
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 5: they're headed in the right direction, you would think with Dable.

2262
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 5: So if that's the way that it looks in a

2263
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 5: year from now, the Patriots win a playoff game, with

2264
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 5: Mac Jones, and things are on the upward trajectory, I'd

2265
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 5: feel pretty good about picking it.

2266
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 2: Up Speing fres though this may seem overly simplistic, but

2267
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 2: maybe the lack of rising young leaders is an artifact

2268
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 2: of the brain drain and lack of reliable leadership on

2269
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 2: the coaching staff. If you rightly or wrongly think your

2270
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 2: bosses are boobs, there's not much to emulate in, not

2271
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 2: much motivation to even try. Wow, I mean, I'm sure.

2272
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 4: Look like it's all connected. I mean, I don't think

2273
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 4: you can rule any any part of it out, just

2274
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 4: like you can't put you know, one specific thing like

2275
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's all part of it. I mean,

2276
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 4: you've lost a lot of coaches over the years. You've

2277
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 4: lost i mean upper management guy as you had Bill

2278
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 4: going in seven.

2279
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 3: Different directions last year.

2280
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's just it hasn't been what it

2281
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 4: usually was, that established kind of hierarchy. Everything's covered, you

2282
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 4: know who's doing what, and you know, I mean I

2283
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 4: do think like you know, And this goes back to,

2284
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 4: you know, to Paul's podcast with Pioli talking about you know,

2285
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 4: the slappies and stuff that we're on that you know,

2286
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 4: you wonder are the Evan Rothsteins of the world or

2287
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 4: you know, I think the DeMarcus Covington's of the world

2288
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 4: certainly are are developing into that. You know, is this

2289
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:28,759
Speaker 4: the next level of those kind of coaches? And now,

2290
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 4: you know, and here in this year, in twenty twenty three,

2291
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 4: are those guys have they now acquired enough experience where

2292
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 4: he can just start getting some better returns?

2293
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think Mike pael Green has.

2294
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 4: Done a really good job with with the cornerbacks that

2295
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 4: he's been given and and you know, those guys have

2296
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 4: all been pretty pretty productive, and you know, they just

2297
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 4: they need more of it.

2298
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, I also would say, like why wouldn't that

2299
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 3: like more encourage guys to be more if they if

2300
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 3: they had questions about their coaching, which I don't really

2301
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 3: think they do. I think they had questions about Matt

2302
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 3: Patricia and Joe Judge being in Judge of the offense

2303
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 3: last year, like let's not make this out to be

2304
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 3: now that they're all surrounded by boobs. But if you

2305
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 3: had questions about the coaching, you woul get wouldn't that

2306
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 3: encourage you to be more apt to try to lead

2307
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 3: like listen.

2308
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 2: It it depends, It depends on the guy. Like some guys

2309
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:17,720
Speaker 2: just give up what's the point, but other guys would lead.

2310
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 3: But see, now I've been critical of Mac, but I

2311
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 3: think you could say a lot of things about how

2312
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 3: Mac handled last year. Giving up is not one of

2313
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 3: the things I would say about him.

2314
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 2: No, I think reaching out to the you know, Alabama,

2315
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 2: if it's true, is not a sign of giving up, right,

2316
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 2: a sign of doing whatever he thinks he needs.

2317
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 3: But I even think that whole thing of like the

2318
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 3: quote unquote gang of five, that that's kind of a

2319
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:41,679
Speaker 3: sign of leadership, like we need to do it. Yeah,

2320
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 3: we need to do this because we're not doing it right.

2321
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 3: We need to do it this way, like in a

2322
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 3: weird way, Kendrick.

2323
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 2: Bourne rather have a gang of fifty three.

2324
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 3: But no, no, no, But I'm just saying in terms

2325
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:54,639
Speaker 3: of this is more about a specific thing with Patricia

2326
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 3: and Judge, but in a weird way with Kendrick Bourne,

2327
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:03,080
Speaker 3: did if he was in meetings and they were teaching

2328
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 3: the offense his offense and offense that he was familiar

2329
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 3: with incorrectly in a weird way, He's that's leadership. Yeah,

2330
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 3: And I've been critical of Kendrick Porn too, but more

2331
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 3: as a player, not necessarily because he wasn't happy with

2332
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 3: the way that they were teaching stuff if he thought

2333
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 3: if he thought they were teaching it wrong, and he

2334
01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 3: was voicing that, I think that's leadership.

2335
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:24,800
Speaker 2: All right, quick? Who am my game?

2336
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 3: Righty am?

2337
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 2: I These are all Belichick era Patriots. I got a

2338
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP truck despite not winning the award. Malcolm

2339
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 2: Butler incorrect, although it might be correct, but this isn't

2340
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 2: the one I caught Tom Brady's last touchdown as a Patriot.

2341
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:49,600
Speaker 4: Josh Gordon, No, you can't guess again, Evan, you're out.

2342
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,839
Speaker 2: And I split reps in high school with Giovanni Bernard

2343
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:55,599
Speaker 2: James White. James White is correct.

2344
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 5: I'm also right about Malcolm Butler, but I think you're right.

2345
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, how did he How did James White get

2346
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 3: a truck? Super Bowl truck?

2347
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 2: I think Brady gave him his truck after the Seattle game.

2348
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 5: Now that was twenty eighty three.

2349
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,560
Speaker 3: I think he's right. Twenty eight gave the truck to

2350
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 3: Malcolm Butler.

2351
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 2: He gave a twenty eight three game.

2352
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 5: The twenty eight to three game would have been the

2353
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 5: Seattle game, Falcons would have been I think Evans right.

2354
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 3: No, I know, right, so the game unless he did

2355
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 3: it twice. I'm pretty sure he gave it to Butler

2356
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 3: after the Seattle game.

2357
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 2: That's what I just said.

2358
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 3: Then you said twenty eight three. That's not the same game.

2359
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 5: No, I said twenty eight to three.

2360
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I missed because we are missing. I met

2361
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 2: James Sattle.

2362
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 3: Don't made me go all eric on you.

2363
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 2: Yes, friend, I meant to see That's what I said.

2364
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 2: I meant the Seattle game.

2365
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 3: I think I think Evans right. Well, it could have

2366
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 3: happened both times, you know how I always agree with that.

2367
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 3: Couldn't have happened both times.

2368
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 5: Patriots CB Malcolm Butler always keeps Super Bowl MVP truck.

2369
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah no, But but did he also give.

2370
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 3: Me also James White?

2371
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I'm gonna say I was right.

2372
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 3: I said, you didn't take Malcolm Butler's rock and give

2373
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 3: it to James White.

2374
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 2: I said, you could be right, but it might have

2375
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 2: been another time.

2376
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 4: That's that's twenty seventeen I took.

2377
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 5: So Tom Brady also gave one to James White twice

2378
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 5: three Tom Brady, but apparently James White no longer has

2379
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 5: said truck.

2380
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see next one. I have played both offense

2381
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 2: and defense for the Patriots. Julian could be wrong, so

2382
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 2: you're out.

2383
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 3: That's why I didn't guess.

2384
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 2: I was a team captain for one season.

2385
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 4: One season.

2386
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 2: Finally, my one touchdown may or may not have been

2387
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 2: a trick play, depending on if you were talking to

2388
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:41,599
Speaker 2: fred Or and Roberts.

2389
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 5: I knew it after the captain one, but I was out.

2390
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 2: That's a giveaway. I have been to one super Bowl

2391
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 2: but lost. That could be a lot of people. I

2392
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,680
Speaker 2: caught my first touchdown reception from Jacoby Myers.

2393
01:47:57,479 --> 01:47:59,480
Speaker 4: Rex perkad incorrect.

2394
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 2: Think about it though, there eight thirty two or is

2395
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 2: better than me.

2396
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 5: Kim Newton pass from Jacobin he did against Baltimore. Yeah,

2397
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:17,679
Speaker 5: Kim Newton did yep, Yeah, yeah he did.

2398
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 3: No, I remember him throwing one to Birdhead. I mean

2399
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 3: my mind that corner of the Yeah, in the far.

2400
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 2: Instances, you know, so you know, once Super Bowl it

2401
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 2: was you immediately think, who are the Patriots? Right?

2402
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 5: You know, but it's tricky.

2403
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 2: Yep.

2404
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,679
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, that's a good that the one super

2405
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 3: Bowl and lost. That was a good little wrinkle.

2406
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:38,759
Speaker 2: Yep, my father was also an NFL player.

2407
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 3: My father was also an NFL player.

2408
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 2: I am a Ron Burton Award winner.

2409
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,759
Speaker 5: Wise incorrect, Matthew.

2410
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 2: Matthew Slater is correct because he eats a lot of dogs. Finally,

2411
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 2: I left the Patriots for another team, but came back

2412
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 2: after it didn't go well.

2413
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 5: Everybody.

2414
01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a bit of a no one. I

2415
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 2: cost the team two ot as because I'm a double

2416
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:11,680
Speaker 2: agent trying to deliberately sabotage the Patriot.

2417
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:14,719
Speaker 3: Judge, double agent.

2418
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 2: He's just kidding, of course. Yeah, let's see what else.

2419
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

2420
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 2: James McLeod our, resident artist, has a rendering of young

2421
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 2: Evan speaking as Jesus in the Temple to all the people.

2422
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:40,000
Speaker 3: I didn't make No, I did, oh proud.

2423
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if I'm sure that will lend

2424
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 2: up on Twitter at some point.

2425
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd a good T shirt for Paul the other day.

2426
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:50,800
Speaker 3: Uh what are we doing?

2427
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 2: T shirt? Yeah?

2428
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 3: I liked that we got to print those up.

2429
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 2: Josh from half Moon, New York writes in I have

2430
01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 2: two topics I like to bring up. My Patriots topic

2431
01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 2: is with the Patriots having plenty of cap space for

2432
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 2: next off season, over one hundred million projected by over

2433
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 2: the Cap. Do you see them spending any of that

2434
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:14,680
Speaker 2: with extensions this preseason or in or in season? And

2435
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 2: who do you think would be in line for a

2436
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:17,800
Speaker 2: decent extension?

2437
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Douger new chair definitely. I think

2438
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 4: that's kind of mo for them too, is his extensions

2439
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 4: are looked at maybe August September. I think Jonathan Jones

2440
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:29,479
Speaker 4: maybe a couple of years ago, got his.

2441
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 5: Chant on that time.

2442
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 4: And I think you get guys in you see how

2443
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:34,560
Speaker 4: they look in camp, and if you feel like the

2444
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 4: trajectory is continuing of what you think on the guy,

2445
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 4: then then that's usually when they make the move. But

2446
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 4: you know, there't hasn't been a lot of those guys.

2447
01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 2: Off season topic is mainly for Fred. My daughter will

2448
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 2: be competing in a national dance competition being held in

2449
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 2: Sandwich this summer, so we'll be out there for a week.

2450
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 2: I'd like to know the five best places to eat

2451
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 2: in Sandwich. Wow, that's a lot. Yeah. So if you

2452
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 2: want seafood, the way it goes it's bottom rung is

2453
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:04,559
Speaker 2: seafood SAMs good. But and then it goes the pilot

2454
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 2: house and then it goes Fisherman's View. But if you

2455
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 2: want fried chicken, you go to Seafood SAMs. It's a

2456
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 2: hidden gym, seafood SAMs.

2457
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 3: And this is all in Sandwich, all in Sandwich.

2458
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:16,759
Speaker 2: They're all down by the Marina, the canal there Belfrey.

2459
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:19,599
Speaker 2: The Belfry is a good place. If you want Italian,

2460
01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 2: you go to Tomatoes, not to be confused with Sweet Tomatoes,

2461
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 2: which is a pizza place. You go to Tomatoes, great,

2462
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 2: great Italian.

2463
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:31,680
Speaker 4: I dated a girl from Sandwich briefly in college. To me,

2464
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 4: we spent some time in the cool Sandwich Sandwich harbor.

2465
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't say what she looked like.

2466
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 2: Over under game ready? Ramandre Stevenson combined yards fifteen fifteen

2467
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 2: fifty and fifty under.

2468
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 5: I'm going under.

2469
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:52,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say under, okay because of the added options team.

2470
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 2: Rushing yards nineteen fifty.

2471
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 3: What they rush for last year?

2472
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 4: Wait, come on, I can tell you if you can give.

2473
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 3: Me the number from last ye because they were terrible

2474
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 3: running team last year. I got you eighteen eighteen and change.

2475
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 3: I want to say, yeah, eighteen twelve. Yeah, I'm gonna

2476
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:07,639
Speaker 3: say over.

2477
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 5: I'm going to say over as well.

2478
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 2: Have to be better over the eighteen twelve Yeah, there

2479
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 2: you go. Taekwon Thornton combined yards seven hundred and fifty com.

2480
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 5: Bind What what do you mean combined? Like he's gonna

2481
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 5: get four hundred rushing?

2482
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 2: It could have ends. Sweet, I'm going I'm going to

2483
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 2: say under.

2484
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 4: But I think my my like realistic hope for him,

2485
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,879
Speaker 4: would you know be in the like fifty fifty catches

2486
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 4: five six.

2487
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:34,640
Speaker 2: Hundred team receiving yards forty one hundred.

2488
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 5: Such, just better be over. Passing yards are team receiving

2489
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 5: because those are two different things.

2490
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:40,639
Speaker 2: Oh, team receiving.

2491
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they don't have that on here. They threw

2492
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 4: for thirty five hundred yards last year.

2493
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 3: Passing yards take sacks out of it, right, But I'm

2494
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 3: going to say over has to be over. I'm going

2495
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 3: to say, if I have to live to another year

2496
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 3: where I watch an NFL team not be able to

2497
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 3: throw the ball, no you won't have that. I don't

2498
01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 3: make enough of that twenty one Mac Jones touchdown twice

2499
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 3: in the last three years. I had to sit through that.

2500
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 2: Mac Jones touchdowns versus interceptions twenty four to ten.

2501
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,679
Speaker 5: He is twenty two and like twelve over.

2502
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 3: Say over, what does that mean, I'm going to say

2503
01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 3: over both, over twenty four and over ten.

2504
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to say twenty eight fourteen.

2505
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say under ten. I think it's gonna be

2506
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 5: better protecting the ball, but I'm gonna I'm gonna say

2507
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 5: I'm under on both. I think they're going to run it.

2508
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 2: In defensive touchdowns eight, I gotta go under.

2509
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 19: There.

2510
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 2: Isn't that a lot?

2511
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah year last year?

2512
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, defensive interceptions twenty four.

2513
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 4: Got no streme of reference.

2514
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say. I'm going to say under. Yeah, they

2515
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 3: had a lot last year.

2516
01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 2: Average penalty yards per game forty five under punch really

2517
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 2: under okay, and Parlo nods five.

2518
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 5: Oh that under under totally.

2519
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 4: I mean, they could be winning with like one minute left,

2520
01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 4: and I think you'd be like, I don't know yet.

2521
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens because they're tight.

2522
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 4: Other games are tight.

2523
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll give you the nod when I think

2524
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:04,799
Speaker 3: it's deserved.

2525
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, would you ever give the nod to this

2526
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 4: Patriots team in the first quarter of any game, even

2527
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 4: if they were a first quarter?

2528
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:13,599
Speaker 3: No, not unless there was like snowing and the other

2529
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 3: team look cold like the Arizona Cardinals in a way.

2530
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 2: Chris and Denmark has a public service announcement that the

2531
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 2: tickets for the Germany games will be out on July eleventh.

2532
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 2: Oh so Patriots fancit tickets? Buy them up? We want to.

2533
01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 5: I have gotten quite a few dms about I'm like, sorry,

2534
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 5: I can't help you with that. Sorry, can you give

2535
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 5: me that?

2536
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 3: Media gush?

2537
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:43,879
Speaker 2: A little known fact according to Matt Cook, who's from Rochester.

2538
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 2: He says James White also got a truck from Conan

2539
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 2: O'Brien after the twenty eight three Falcon super Bowl. This

2540
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 2: was after he gave away the truck that Brady gave me.

2541
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 3: Like, I don't want a truck. Stop giving me truck, right,

2542
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm not a truck guy.

2543
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 5: I think he gave like the Brady truck to like charity,

2544
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 5: like so like the boys and girl could use it something. Yeah,

2545
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 5: you know, James, it sound like he gave it away

2546
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 5: to like his neighbors. Something is there?

2547
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 3: Is there a newer media guy?

2548
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 4: This is old? This is the nineteen that's the newest.

2549
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 4: That's the only one we got.

2550
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I should break another one down here, though.

2551
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 2: Uh let's see David writes, and when we go undefeated

2552
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 2: in the preseason, with future Hall of Fame quarterback Malie

2553
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 2: Cunningham leading the charge, Could we finally get our undefeated

2554
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 2: preseason champions t shirts? Or more likely, will the USPS

2555
01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 2: workers get to use those as a new uniform. That's

2556
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 2: kind of a shot at Matt.

2557
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 4: That's like it would be interesting though. If Hopkins does

2558
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 4: sign with the Titans, we'll get a up close look

2559
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 4: at him there week three three three?

2560
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 5: How come we can good guys like that Dustin Jack

2561
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 5: Jones or.

2562
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 4: Something blows his knee out? Thank god I went the

2563
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 4: other way.

2564
01:55:57,440 --> 01:55:58,640
Speaker 5: That was that was dark.

2565
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 2: This some Enrique who does really good trivia, right, have

2566
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 2: some really good ones. Maybe we can fly through. We

2567
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 2: got a few minutes. Rique's from Monterey. Question one, We

2568
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 2: all know the largest Super Bowl blowouts were from the

2569
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 2: an NFC team over an AFC team, and he lists

2570
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 2: them all. But what AFC team holds the largest blowout

2571
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 2: over an NFC team?

2572
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 3: Raiders over Washington correct.

2573
01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 2: Thirty eight nine and nineteen eighty three. Who is the

2574
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 2: only player in NFL history to win a Heisman, an

2575
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 2: NFL MVP, and a Super Bowl MVP? Desmond Howard, Not

2576
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 2: at Desmond Howard no Heisman, NFL MVP and Super Bowl MVP.

2577
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:51,720
Speaker 2: Marcus Allen, Oh, these are times. Yeah. Dallas versus Rams,

2578
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 2: Now we gotta hurry. Dallas versus Rams, San Francisco versus

2579
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:01,880
Speaker 2: Green Bay in Dallas versus Francisco have played nine times

2580
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 2: against each other in the playoffs, tied for the most

2581
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 2: in NFL history. What AFC matchup has played each other

2582
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 2: the most? Pat's Colts incorrect?

2583
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 3: What is the question?

2584
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 2: What AFC matchup have played the most in the playoffs?

2585
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 4: Pat Steelers Nope.

2586
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 5: No, Raven Steelers Nope, Okay, I'm done.

2587
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 2: Denver, Denver and Pittsburgh eight times.

2588
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:28,200
Speaker 5: Oh we had Steelers Denver and Pittsburgh.

2589
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember the Tebow one.

2590
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was a great game.

2591
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:37,000
Speaker 2: Two more questions. Two teams played each other a record

2592
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 2: four consecutive years in the playoffs.

2593
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:43,800
Speaker 3: What two teams played each other four years.

2594
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 2: In the playoffs?

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01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 20: Four?

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01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 4: You're doings Colts there.

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01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 2: I'll give you a hint. The years were ninety five

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01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 2: through ninety ninety ninety six, ninety seven, and ninety eight.

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01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 2: Denver incorrect, Green Bay and San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: These are very obscure alday.

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01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 2: Finally, since the merger in nineteen seventy. These two teams

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01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 2: have faced each other twelve times. However, one of the

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01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 2: teams has never beaten the other team, making it the

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01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 2: only matchup in the history with that weird fact. They've

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01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:24,840
Speaker 2: played twelve times, but one team has never beat the other.

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Speaker 5: Steelers Cardinals.

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01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 4: No, no, I don't know.

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01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 2: The New York Jets have never beaten Philadelphia in twelve tries.

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01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 5: They have another try this year.

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01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 3: There's a loss, all right.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Catch twenty two immediately following Ota. So that'll be about

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