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Speaker 8: a clean win for Tom aspinall and welcome into the

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Speaker 8: for fourteen yesterday. It's Monday, October twenty seven, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 8: It is episode five seventy three of the Anticiploran Podcast.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for checking back in, whether you're watching or listening,

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Speaker 8: we appreciate the heck out of you.

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Speaker 8: For granted, today's episode is brought you by DraftKings, DraftKings.

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Speaker 8: The crown is yours, crown is still tom Aspinall's Kenny. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: but there is just so much to unpack on this

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Speaker 8: man event. We'll certainly do that with Ken Flow. Jason

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Speaker 8: Andak might chime in here over the course of the

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Speaker 8: next half an hour, So Ray Longo coming up bottom

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Speaker 8: of the hour. We could do certainly twenty minutes straight

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Speaker 8: on Aspenau and gone with Ray, but we have a

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Speaker 8: lot to get into with Ray, the Umar and Mago

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Speaker 8: Medovs stuff, and we also have a few selections for you.

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Speaker 8: UFC Fight Night Garcia versus Onama. That main event should

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Speaker 8: be particularly explosive this weekend at the UFC Apex. But

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Speaker 8: my goodness, UFC three twenty one was a vibe until

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Speaker 8: it wasn't. So let's dive right into that headline is

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Speaker 8: brought to you by Quervo. Now's a good time to

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Speaker 8: enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. Tom Aspinall and telo

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Speaker 8: Gan fight for four minutes and thirty five seconds and

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Speaker 8: a round one. It ends because of an accidental eyepoke,

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Speaker 8: of which there were two, one in each eye for

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Speaker 8: a good measure. Kenny, the floor is yours. Where were

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Speaker 8: you and what was your reaction when this fight came

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Speaker 8: to its abrupt conclusion?

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Speaker 5: This is ridiculous, man.

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Speaker 9: You know I paid I paid seventy what seventy eighty

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Speaker 9: and do this.

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Speaker 5: I feel betrayed.

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Speaker 9: No, listen, a lot of people complaining kind of similar complaints,

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Speaker 9: whether it's like, you know, I put money on aspinall

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Speaker 5: Fight and yataa.

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Speaker 9: This crap happens in MMA sometimes. And you know, I

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Speaker 9: don't buy the narrative that Tom should have continued. I

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Speaker 9: the unfortunate thing is in combat sports, crap happens, whether

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Speaker 9: And the other thing, John is not all injuries are

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Speaker 9: created equal In that you could see a guy barely

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Speaker 9: Like you know, you gotta trust the fighters in these

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Speaker 8: So I'm gonna do more listening and probing today because

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Speaker 8: I think my thoughts are a little bit wayward when

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Speaker 8: So my twin brother alerted me to a tweet from

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Speaker 8: Derek Bronson, and it's just one of many opinions that

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Speaker 8: So here's what it says, and this is Derek Brunson

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Speaker 8: former you have seem to wait. In my opinion, Gon was

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Speaker 8: gonna cook Tom asmen all today. In MMA, you cannot

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Speaker 8: sit and wait for fights. Fighters fight the best whenever

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Speaker 8: they're active. Tom's sitting and waiting to fight Jones had

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Speaker 8: to be depressing starting and stopping fight camps, as stated

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Speaker 8: by Tom, and then he goes on to say that

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Speaker 5: He got a wake up call.

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Speaker 8: God missed a perfect opportunity today with the Twitter fingers.

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Speaker 8: Oh a lot to sort of unpack there, and at

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Speaker 8: least as far as the mixed Martial arts was concerned,

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Speaker 8: I'm seeing you smirk and now you're gonna sip something.

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Speaker 5: But I just want to throw it right back to you.

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Speaker 5: Why are you smirking?

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Speaker 9: I mean, out of those four minutes and thirty five seconds,

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Speaker 9: a lot to get to get out of that, like

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Speaker 9: to predict all of that stuff in formula thirty five seconds.

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Speaker 5: Right, I agree, that's impressible.

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Speaker 8: Well no, I agree, right, yeah, Because some people were

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Speaker 8: asking me, oh, what happens in the rematch, and I say,

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised to see a takedown and Tom,

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Speaker 8: the early going. Right, A lot of different things could happen, right,

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Speaker 8: but Tom was already dealing with adversity, was already leaking

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Speaker 5: It was a great week for Bone Gamon.

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Speaker 8: And if any one of these guys is training twenty

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Speaker 8: it's Tom Aspinall. Right, Yes, it'll gone can put in

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Speaker 8: Tom would haven't could have fought, but there really wasn't

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Speaker 8: And I bring it up in the broad context of

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Speaker 8: a lot of things that were on Tom Aspinall on

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Speaker 8: And I know I was talking intangibly, but I said,

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Speaker 8: it was the biggest fucking pressure spot in UFC.

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Speaker 5: His dress. Yeah, absolutely, I said, can.

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Speaker 8: You imagine, you know, come Monday morning if Tom Aspinall

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Speaker 8: uh lost, well he didn't win, you know, And uh, yeah,

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Speaker 8: he didn't win.

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Speaker 9: No, I think that it's accurate to say that this

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Speaker 9: all eyes were on Aspinall. There was a lot of

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Speaker 9: pressure on Tom as you said, But does it mean

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Speaker 9: that's the way it was going to go down based

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think there was enough information.

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Speaker 9: I think both guys were still trying to like put

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Speaker 9: of didn't really dictate that they were gonna win that

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Speaker 9: I think that's that's a little too early to say.

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Speaker 8: I'm David Gon right Sido Gon's brother, I'm feeling like

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Speaker 8: this is a real missed opportunity right, it was certainly

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Speaker 8: But if I'm team Gone Kenny right, I had my

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Speaker 5: My jab was beyond establish.

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Speaker 8: It was, you know, snapping heads back like a fucking

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, and I think you nailed it right there in

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Speaker 9: regards to how things were going for Gone and for

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Speaker 9: Tom aspinall who you know. Again, I still think they

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Speaker 5: The ipoke all that stuff.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and Tom experienced, you know, about a good of

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Speaker 8: Right, And that's certainly piggybacks upon what I'm saying right now,

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Speaker 8: I feel like Dana White loves Tom Aspinall and Seedle Gone.

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Speaker 5: But man, it's just.

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Speaker 8: A crazy, crazy sport and UH mixed martial arts sort

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Speaker 5: Of course.

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Speaker 9: but you know people are gonna say that. And uh,

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Speaker 9: but all all of that said, John Jones is looking

435
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 9: very good in this situation, being like guys, you guys

436
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 9: think it's easy. You know, I go out there, I

437
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 9: win fights. You guys, this is making the case for

438
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Speaker 9: why I would rather fight Perreira instead of tom Aspinall.

439
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Speaker 5: So yeah, exactly.

440
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Speaker 8: Well, and you know, I guess you can tell the

441
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 8: nature of maybe my somewhat personal relationship with tom Aspinall

442
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 8: that I did message him. I message a lot of

443
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 8: fighters after a loss, you know. But as far as

444
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 8: Jones is concerned, to your point, right, you think it's

445
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,239
Speaker 8: so easy, right, Like tom Aspinall, according to a lot

446
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,239
Speaker 8: of people, was anointed, right, and it's hard to just

447
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 8: you know, and even Dana White going off the way

448
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 8: in stage just sort of saying like, I feel like

449
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 8: people just discount see it all gone, you know, and

450
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 8: it's just not that easy, right. So yeah, And I

451
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 8: really don't even need to talk about John Jones and

452
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 8: Alex Paeda and their collective desire to fight one another

453
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Speaker 8: at the White House because a lot of signs point

454
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Speaker 8: to that.

455
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Speaker 5: And that's fine.

456
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 8: Heavyweight division has all this high level business now, and

457
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 8: we'll just see how soon tom Aspinall can turn around.

458
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 8: And you know who Matt benefits. I think it stands

459
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Speaker 8: to reason that there could be a lot to gain

460
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 8: for both guys, in those four minutes and thirty five seconds,

461
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 8: my gosh, congratulations to the new undisputed Strawwey champion, Mackenzie Durn.

462
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 8: So I'm really happy for McKenzie. And it's interesting I

463
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 8: want to sort of peel back the broadcast curtain if

464
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Speaker 8: I could a little bit, because I will tell you, guys,

465
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 8: and this is just maybe in a man of veracity

466
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Speaker 8: and taking whatever comes out the other side. As I'm

467
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 8: watching this fight live five feet away, I'm not thinking

468
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 8: this is close, right, And I felt at times maybe

469
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 8: that Daniel Cormier was giving Vina Kakara Jane Gitdoba maybe

470
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 8: too much credit, right, And so it's interesting for me

471
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 8: to hear some of the criticism of the broadcast that

472
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Speaker 8: maybe we were too pro derned, because I felt like

473
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Speaker 8: I gave vere and I think maybe round two, one

474
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 8: of the early rounds, but this just felt like it

475
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 8: was all Mackenzie, that she was doling out all the

476
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 8: significant violence and damage and was the better fighter, and

477
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 8: that I felt like, and you know, I don't like

478
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 8: this word, that she would have been robbed had she

479
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 8: lost this fight. So it was interesting for me to

480
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 8: walk out the other side and sort of be privy

481
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Speaker 8: to some of that criticism, which we take as constructive.

482
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Speaker 8: But I felt like Mackenzie Dern fought phenomenally and deserves

483
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Speaker 8: to be the undisputed y f C Strohi Champ.

484
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Speaker 5: I agree with you, man. Listen.

485
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Speaker 9: You know, I tend to watch these fights sometimes with

486
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Speaker 9: the volume off. I got the kids running around, I

487
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 9: got all the other stuff, and you know, and I'll

488
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Speaker 9: go in social media and see some of the results

489
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 9: before I watch, and you know, whether it was the

490
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 9: Tom Aspinall and Gone fight or this one between.

491
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Speaker 5: Judge Dooba and Mackenzie Dern.

492
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Speaker 9: It's just crazy some of the narratives that you see

493
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Speaker 9: out there, and I go out and watch it and

494
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 9: I'm like, McKenzie's huting almost every round. I don't understand

495
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 9: what's going on here. Like, I absolutely agree with you, John.

496
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 9: I think there could be maybe an argument maybe for

497
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 9: all five. But yeah, I had it rounds. I had

498
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 9: four rounds for Mackenzie. I thought that she was way

499
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 9: more effective, even you know, getting taken down more times.

500
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Speaker 5: I thought she was way more aggressive off her back.

501
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 5: She d style, bro dude. She was nasty with those elbows.

502
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 5: I love it.

503
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 9: And she looked absolutely determined to win that belt. Like

504
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 9: I don't think I've seen that look in her eye before,

505
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 9: that look of confidence, that look of aggression. Like it

506
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 9: was a perfect night for her, And I thought Judge

507
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 9: Doba looked great too, but I don't think it was

508
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 9: enough for someone like Mackenzie. She was on that night,

509
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 9: and you know she wasn't perfect, but confidence wise mentally,

510
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 9: you know how sharp she was generally speaking on the night.

511
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 9: For her ground game, her striking, I thought she was

512
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 9: the more effective fighter for at least four rounds.

513
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 8: She's had a lot of pressure on her to become

514
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 8: a world champion. There was pressure on her to become

515
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 8: an m I may fight her, And now she's going

516
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 8: to have financial freedom because of it, which is absolutely incredible.

517
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 8: And the commitment, you know, has been unwavering, and you

518
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 8: might have heard us say on the broadcast, you know

519
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 8: there were times early on when she was getting ready

520
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 8: for her UFC debut where the sparring sessions brought her

521
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 8: to tears. And now she's the world champ and Jason

522
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 8: Perillo and her dad, you know, Megatone Diaz. You just

523
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 8: feel so good for these people who have put so

524
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 8: much into this and She's just such a breath of

525
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 8: fresh air. She's so vulnerable with us and what she says, right,

526
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 8: she says, and there's no way you get something like

527
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 8: this from a Valentina Chevchenko type about an opponent. But

528
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 8: she says, you know, I see Ving and Jangidoba all week.

529
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 8: This is Mackenzie talking, and she and her team are

530
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 8: all filled with joy and I'm not really feeling that.

531
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 8: And then finally my daughter gets here and I feel that.

532
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 8: And you know, Mackenzie's debt a lot in her personal

533
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 8: life when it comes to some circumstances, and so to

534
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 8: have Moa there in Abu Dhabi for the championship fight

535
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 8: and in the octagon just absolutely incredible. And even early

536
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 8: on you could tell when she was walking out that

537
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 8: Darren had some healthy nerves and JANGI do but just

538
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 8: looked like had like she had all week, had this

539
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 8: championship aura about her. But Darren got it done in

540
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 8: a big way, and thankfully it wasn't controversial.

541
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 5: She sure did man.

542
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 9: And you know, it's impressive anytime you get some of

543
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 9: these guys, uh, these competitors, women and guys that IBJJF

544
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 9: World champion multiple times ADCC champion. So to come from

545
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 9: the grappling background, be a world champion there, come over

546
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 9: to MMA and get it done. It's extremely impressive, especially

547
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 9: when you saw her first fight or first several fights

548
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 9: in the UFC, where you're like, I don't know if

549
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 9: I don't know if MMA's for her man, you know,

550
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 9: grappling me, she should maybe go back to grappling. A

551
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 9: lot of people were saying that, but slow and steady

552
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 9: wins the race, and she put a lot of work

553
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 9: into this. She came in phenomenal shape and got it done.

554
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 9: I'm extremely impressed with her performance and very very happy

555
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 9: for her and her team.

556
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 8: And she's ready to defend the belt, which you gotta love.

557
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 8: She's already calling out Tatiana Suarez. I still think for me,

558
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 8: when it comes to Islami Kashev and Jongway Lee, it's

559
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 8: well within reason that they would go back to their

560
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 8: respective division. Certainly there's already traction for Islami Kashev versus

561
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 8: Ilia Taputi. And the thing is is you can be

562
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 8: sure the Makashev has complete focus on Jack Dela Madelene,

563
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 8: who figures to be a huge problem. I mean to

564
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 8: me that betting lot is nuts if anybody's like plus

565
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 8: two hundred or anything like that. But I really do

566
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 8: believe that uh Jongway Lee could very well show up

567
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 8: back in that bracket. And I think if you're Mackenzie Dern,

568
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 8: you know, with respect to Tatiana Suarez and everybody else,

569
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 8: you better fucking hope not. You know, well, stay put

570
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 8: at bout twenty five, right staf there song the way

571
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 8: Lee exactly? You know you look great up there?

572
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 5: All right?

573
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 8: Would you rather sneeze confetti or have your burp smell

574
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 8: like rose? Is very long ago, coming up in two minutes,

575
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 8: but still a lot to unpack when it comes to

576
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 8: UFC three twenty one can flow. I don't know the

577
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 8: extent to which I want to lean into all the

578
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 8: eyepoke noise when it comes to tom aspinall. But there

579
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 8: is a segment of people, fighters included, who uh who

580
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,239
Speaker 8: sort of wants you to fight through some of that,

581
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 8: and every ipoke is different. I know that was sort

582
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 8: of part of your thesis statement, but I don't know

583
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 8: if you want a john personal experience either in sparring

584
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 8: with an ipoke or in fight with an ipoke. You know,

585
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 8: but there's some people who sort of would have liked

586
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 8: to have seen. I don't know, maybe Tom Maker every

587
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 8: last ditch effort to try to sort of open that

588
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 8: eye and you know, get back in there.

589
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

590
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 9: The problem is that those people aren't in there. I mean,

591
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 9: they don't know what that page is. Like I've dealt

592
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 9: with it, you know, Like I remember when I thought

593
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 9: Ray Maydard I was you know, blind in one eye

594
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 9: for a little bit, at least for half a round.

595
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 5: It was not fun. And when I thought.

596
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 9: Sean Shirk, I wasn't poked in the eye, but I

597
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 9: had his blood in my eye and it was like

598
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 9: someone put a uh, you know, a red curtain over

599
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 9: my eyes. And that wasn't fun either. And it's it's

600
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 9: the sport is challenging enough, guys, It really is, I

601
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 9: promise you, it's really really difficult. And to deal with

602
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 9: something like getting poked in the eye, and when there's

603
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 9: so much on the line, when there's so much that

604
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 9: can change the trajectory of your career, I.

605
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 5: Don't think that's our call to make Again.

606
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 9: I go back to having to trust the fighter on this,

607
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 9: and only they know the severity of the injury and

608
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 9: and what their capabilities are with that injury and whether

609
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 9: they can continue. You know, obviously, if it's not a

610
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 9: big deal and if it's starting to resolve itself, yeah,

611
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 9: absolutely continue fighting one. But if you're going out there

612
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 9: with one eye and being like, let me, let me

613
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 9: just tough through this, then, right, you're putting your.

614
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 5: Health at risk.

615
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 9: Guys, Okay, it's not your brain, it's not your body. Yes,

616
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 9: we're all frustrated. We want to see this fight go on,

617
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 9: but but I don't think any of that is more

618
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 9: important than the safety and the health of that fighter.

619
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 9: It's like, you know, ask Michael Busmay about that.

620
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know.

621
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Speaker 8: Yeah, No, we're aligned, We're aligned. H Yeah, Cody's writing

622
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Speaker 8: to me. Veer and I had nine minutes of control

623
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 8: time as she was getting elbowed in the Phagi. You

624
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 8: get credit for control time when you're eating elbows. I

625
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 8: just gotta do something with it. A lot more coming

626
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Speaker 8: up on UFC three twenty one. My scorecards for losers

627
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Speaker 8: Jai Jilton Almeta and Jose Miguel del Gato. I thought

628
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 8: they both won plenty more on that coming up. I

629
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630
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631
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Speaker 8: If anybody deserved a goddamn break, but plenty more on

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633
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Speaker 8: Can flow? Yes, Sir marnermago Metov is a human being

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Speaker 8: In competition sometimes he might be a scosho over confident, right,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, star of the show is here.

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Speaker 8: I just did a long setup on Umar and Mago Matovs,

705
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Speaker 8: so before we dive back to tom aspinall and exchange pleasantries.

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Speaker 8: I feel like Umar is one of the top ten

707
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Speaker 8: pound for pound best fighters in the world and just

708
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Speaker 8: really marveled at his response to adversity. Obviously your guy

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Speaker 8: handled him, but what were your thoughts on Umar's performance

710
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Speaker 8: thirty twenty seven times three ray over Mario Bautista.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, look, Uma was a good fighter, no question about it.

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Speaker 7: Was it a knock yeat he his sucks win? No,

713
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Speaker 7: you know? Was he breathing heavy? Yeah? Look that way

714
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Speaker 7: maybe it means nothing, but you know, you got to

715
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Speaker 7: when you got the machine in front of you. It's

716
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Speaker 7: not a good look. Yeah, be you know, breathing that heavy.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, he's a great fighter, one hundred percent great fighter.

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Speaker 7: But I saw nothing in that fight that I think

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Speaker 7: would lead anybody to believe the second fight with Marod

720
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Speaker 7: would be different. But I could be wrong, but Kenny,

721
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Speaker 7: and let me let me put a little, you know,

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Speaker 7: qualifier on that. I was watching a fight at the

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Speaker 7: main cart. I watched at the gym, so there was

724
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Speaker 7: a lot of in and out and people talking and

725
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Speaker 7: me running around. So from what I saw, Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 7: that's what that's my take.

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Speaker 8: Anny, I'd like to get your thoughts on Omar Omago

728
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Speaker 8: Mattov and just add that he fought the best, most

729
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Speaker 8: highly trained version of Mario Bautista, who is so well

730
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Speaker 8: coached and so highly skilled in so many different areas,

731
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Speaker 8: was maybe a millimeter of a knee away from knocking

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Speaker 8: Umar out. Kenny, what did you make of this feature

733
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Speaker 8: about on pay per view that I thought was just outstanding?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I came away extremely impressed. I think that was the

736
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Speaker 9: time to face someone like Namaga Metov and Bautista, I

737
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Speaker 9: thought fought his ass off. I think they got off

738
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Speaker 9: to a great start, both fighters. Just that first round alone,

739
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Speaker 9: you know that that will tire out a lot of guys.

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Speaker 9: Maybe not Mirab, but it will tire out a lot

741
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Speaker 9: of guys. And you know, they kept a fast and

742
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Speaker 9: furious pace pretty much throughout. There's a lot of grappling exchanges,

743
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Speaker 9: a lot of striking in and out. And when Mario

744
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Speaker 9: was moving like he does and he has excellent footwork,

745
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Speaker 9: you gotta stay on your toes and you got to

746
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Speaker 9: move with someone like that and be ready for that

747
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Speaker 9: in and out type style, and Nirmaga Matov tried to

748
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Speaker 9: match him with that. I thought largely he was extremely

749
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Speaker 9: effective from the outside, especially with those amazing kicks, and

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Speaker 9: then when he needed to take down to slow Bautista down,

751
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Speaker 9: he did exactly that. So I came away extremely impressed

752
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Speaker 9: and couldn't agree with you more John in regards to

753
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Speaker 9: his honesty and his integrity and how he views himself,

754
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Speaker 9: especially in his comments about Habib and Mahaga Metov. And yeah,

755
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Speaker 9: I thought it was a brilliant performance against a very

756
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Speaker 9: dangerous guy in Mario Bautista, who who I thought you

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Speaker 9: know was worthy enough as an under dog pick.

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Speaker 7: You know, yeah, we give me update me on what

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Speaker 7: he you say about Kabe because.

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Speaker 8: Again I'm going to read it to you right now

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Speaker 8: because this is really I think worth leaning into.

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Speaker 5: Let me just read this real quickly.

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Speaker 8: If I could Kabib, and this is whom Martin Mackleman

764
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Speaker 8: about the postfight press conference, Kabib could come home from

765
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Speaker 8: a tough trip, arrive at twelve at night, change clothes,

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Speaker 8: and go run. If he didn't manage to get even

767
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Speaker 8: one training session during the day, he would still hit

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Speaker 8: pads at home at night. The difference between us is

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Speaker 8: that he gave all of himself to this and we don't.

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Speaker 8: You have to be honest. At twelve at night, I

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Speaker 8: can force myself to go run maybe five times out

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Speaker 8: of ten, because I think he did it. He went,

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Speaker 8: he worked, so I must if I want to achieve something.

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Speaker 8: He was fanatical about training. Maybe also because the Almighty

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Speaker 8: gave him his physical strength in the gym. Everything works

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Speaker 8: for me. I can control guys, I can go for submissions,

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Speaker 8: but in the cage, Habib is psychologically much stronger than me,

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Speaker 8: and in the cage I feel like something is missing.

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Speaker 5: But I'll keep striving.

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Speaker 7: I find all of those guys to have an honesty

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Speaker 7: about everything. You know, if you ask him who's going

782
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Speaker 7: to win the fight, they you know, they're not bullshit

783
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Speaker 7: is they're not Bravado guys. They back up what they say.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, that's that's that's interesting, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 7: he's being one hundred percent honest, But unfortunately he needs

786
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Speaker 7: ten out of ten at midnight to beat a morob.

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Speaker 7: That that issue.

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Speaker 9: I think that was the difference. Honestly, that was you

789
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Speaker 9: could have said those exact same things about someone like

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Speaker 9: Mirob Dwalls really right, Yeah, And I think that was

791
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Speaker 9: the difference. And but I will say this, most fighters

792
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Speaker 9: won't face that, they will not look in the mirror,

793
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Speaker 9: and if they do look in the mirror, they won't

794
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Speaker 9: go out and say those things. The fact that Umar

795
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Speaker 9: is saying those things, I think is a great acknowledgment,

796
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Speaker 9: and it also means that he realizes he needs to

797
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Speaker 9: do those things right. Other people like no, no, no,

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Speaker 9: I worked hard. This is the best camp in my life,

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Speaker 9: and I don't need.

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Speaker 5: To do anything.

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Speaker 9: I did everything I could when deep down inside they

802
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Speaker 9: know that they did it.

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Speaker 5: And the fact that he did.

804
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Speaker 9: That shows that he is going to be a better

805
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Speaker 9: fight because he's saying that.

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Speaker 5: In my opinion, no, right.

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Speaker 7: Listen, the guy's a solid fight. It is no question

808
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Speaker 7: about it. You know, I'm just I'm just bringing it

809
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Speaker 7: back to Marob. But he's the guy is a great fight.

810
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Speaker 7: There's no question about that.

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Speaker 5: So I don't agree with all of that.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 8: The only reason he's not the champion is because there's

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Speaker 8: a man who is tracking right now to go down

815
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Speaker 8: as the greatest mixed martial arts athlete of all time.

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Speaker 5: That's the champion.

817
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 8: Morob Dwallish Willie is on a trajectory right now to

818
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Speaker 8: supersed John Jones and George sant Pierre and everybody else.

819
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Speaker 8: Is the greatest fighter of all time in this error, Ray, right,

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Speaker 8: I don't believe that if Umar takes the running and again,

821
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Speaker 8: I'm not a fighter, right, so take it for what

822
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Speaker 8: it's worth. I don't UN's nine out of ten times

823
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Speaker 8: necessarily that's going to be the recipe. You know, Morob

824
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Speaker 8: just might be that special type of fighter. You know,

825
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Speaker 8: I think Umar has devoted his entire life to this,

826
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Speaker 8: you know, I mean, yeah, I guess there was one

827
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Speaker 8: day I was at Aka that maybe he was a

828
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Speaker 8: couple of minutes late. I mean, you know, but uh yeah,

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Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't know if those little tiny

830
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Speaker 8: things that he's referencing are going to be the difference.

831
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Speaker 8: I think he's good enough to eventually realize a world

832
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Speaker 8: title and probably would be the champion in a division

833
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Speaker 8: that didn't have you know, I don't know.

834
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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I would say I don't think Morob, like uh,

835
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Speaker 9: out technique him necessarily. I think he out hustled him, right,

836
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Speaker 9: And I think I think Morob out hustles everybody what.

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Speaker 5: I think that's how he wins. And it's not like

838
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Speaker 5: he's doing.

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Speaker 9: Like, oh I've never seen that double leg before, Oh

840
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Speaker 9: my gosh, how does he throw those strikes?

841
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Speaker 5: That's not what makes Morob impressive.

842
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Speaker 9: What makes more impressive is he will outwork each and

843
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Speaker 9: every one of the people in front of him, period

844
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Speaker 9: and Kenny.

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Speaker 7: And to add even further to that, when you look

846
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Speaker 7: at Morob's fights, you see gaps. I'm sure these guys

847
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Speaker 7: see things that they think they can exploit, but then

848
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 7: when they get it in there, you know, like look,

849
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Speaker 7: most wrestlers, they're going to try a couple of times

850
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 7: they're gonna get tired, they're not going to expend the energy.

851
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 7: This guy doesn't care. Like this doesn't care. I don't

852
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 7: know what else to say.

853
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Speaker 5: I know, multiple battery packs.

854
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been in the gym with good wrestlers. If

855
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 7: they're not going to get that efficient takedown, they'll back

856
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 7: out and you know, wait and try and get This

857
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 7: guy just doesn't care. So I think when you look

858
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 7: at Morob, yeah, look, you could say, well there's gaps here,

859
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 7: that might be gaps there, but when you get in there,

860
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 7: he makes up for whatever you think you're saying, which

861
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 7: is shit tenacity, and he brings a pace that you know, right,

862
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Speaker 7: you know, and you look, there's only one Kabeb. Umar

863
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Speaker 7: is never going to be Kabib. But that's that's of.

864
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 5: Course, of course, right.

865
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 8: But we still we got three title defenses from Habib,

866
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 8: though we didn't get anything sort of resembling longevity that

867
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 8: allows you to compare him in totality with the other

868
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 8: champion in that way. And I wonder Kenny, and again

869
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 8: I'm just sort of talking, maybe in a little bit

870
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 8: of a wayward way, but I wonder Kenny if Habib

871
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 8: thinks that if Umar gets in triathlon shape and just

872
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 8: does take down defense and triathlon shape, right, Is that

873
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 8: what closes the gap with Morob because it was a

874
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 8: pretty close fight, you know. I mean that's open to interpretation,

875
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 8: but I thought it was exceedingly close.

876
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was extremely close. It's hard.

877
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 9: It's hard to just get your conditioning down like that.

878
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 9: But again, I think that will definitely help. But there's

879
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 9: one other element to that is being comfortable with being

880
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 9: able to suffer as well. And I think Morob has

881
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 9: that other extra element where, Okay, you know, every fighter

882
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 9: is gonna be well conditioned, Marob I think has an

883
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 9: extra gear. But also beyond that gear is that element

884
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 9: of just that mental toughness where it does not matter,

885
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 9: he is still gonna try to outwork you and he's

886
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 9: gonna still so you know, I think those are two

887
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 9: separate things, and again that those are the things that

888
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 9: that separate Morob from maybe every other fighter into sport

889
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 9: right now.

890
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 7: And I tell you, I do think the first fight

891
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 7: was close, but it was close because Morob kind of

892
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 7: let it be close. He was kind of goofing around

893
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 7: a lot to fight, you know what I mean, Like

894
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 7: if this guy the second time, he instead of you know,

895
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 7: he'll put you down, maybe keep it down, make you

896
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 7: work harder to get up. I think I think the

897
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 7: pace is going to be way worse in the second fight.

898
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you guys better not play with your food

899
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 5: then now.

900
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 8: I mean it's like I call your guy, I say,

901
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 8: you're guys trajecting to be the greatest MMA fighter of

902
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 8: all time.

903
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 5: And I think sometimes maybe you only hear my criticism.

904
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 8: But we'll see what happens, and I'll tell you, Like Kenny,

905
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 8: you don't think I'm crazy to suggest that Umar is

906
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 8: one of the best pound for pound fighters.

907
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 5: Well, this is this is you know.

908
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 9: I asked Dominic Cruz about, you know, the pay in

909
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 9: the division, the heavyweight division, and he's like, well, Tom,

910
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 9: of course is going to be one of the goats

911
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 9: because there is no other equal. The problem is is

912
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 9: what makes you a goat is your competition. And the

913
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 9: hundred and thirty five pound division is absolutely insane. Look

914
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 9: at the variety of fighters, right, and specialties and experience

915
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 9: in that division. There's so many great fighters in that division,

916
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 9: and Morob is beating them all.

917
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 5: It's a high level of skill there.

918
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's what would make Morob in my opinion,

919
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 9: I think you know what would support your argument, John,

920
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 9: and I think as good as one hundred and fifty

921
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 9: five pound division is. I still don't think at the

922
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 9: time that Habib was fighting, that Habib had that same

923
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 9: level of competition that Morob does. So, yeah, I agree

924
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 9: with you.

925
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you're swat on, John.

926
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 8: So I understand that Umar got knocked down by beck

927
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 8: Zot Almacon in Almacon's UFC debut, And by the way,

928
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 8: it's a very talented fighter, right, and certainly Mario Bautista,

929
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 8: as I mentioned, was an axt way here. By the way,

930
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 8: so much respect for battle Born Mario Bautista, Joe Romaro,

931
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 8: I need a battle Born Mario Bautista design, if you'd

932
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 8: be so kind. He hates the fucking super Mario stuff.

933
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 8: So but we'll do Battleborn for Mario. We're gonna get

934
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 8: those T shirts out there, hopefully, John anat dot com

935
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 8: at some point the not too distant future, trying to

936
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 8: get Mario going a little bit, I mean, Kenny and

937
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 8: Ray if we could just real quickly, I thought Mario

938
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 8: just fought valiantly and uh again, just in phenomenal shape

939
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 8: to try to take advantage of the you know, biggest

940
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 8: opportunity of his career, Ray right, No.

941
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 7: One million percent. The kid's a stud too. You know,

942
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 7: you got to remember. I think the the other thing

943
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 7: now is Umar actually has like a bullseye on his

944
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 7: head because people have propped them up to be the

945
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 7: next big thing. So people on game planning for this

946
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 7: guy really to the max, you know what I mean,

947
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 7: Like anybody that fights him wants to win, like he's

948
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 7: the champalls. Yeah, I believe anyway, you know what I mean,

949
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 7: like that that's a big name on your resume. So

950
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 7: I think Corey Sandhagen came in very prepared and had

951
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 7: a great fight with him. And I think this guy

952
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 7: the same thing who was just had better And that's

953
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 7: what you're saying. But I think people are game plan

954
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 7: and Mario of course did a fantastic job. And again

955
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 7: he could have had him at it there.

956
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 8: You know, ken what you think of Mario, man, I

957
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 8: thought you could have given him a round in there.

958
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 8: I guess he fought his ass off.

959
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 7: Man.

960
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 9: I think he did everything he could to win that fight.

961
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 9: I think he ran out of skill a little bit. Again,

962
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 9: someone like Umar, especially when it came to the wrestling.

963
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 9: But man, I thought that he had his moments in

964
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 9: that fight. There's no question about it. Yeah, one of

965
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 9: those rounds could have been his. But I just think

966
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 9: it was just excellent time management and execution from Normargo Madoff.

967
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 5: That was the difference.

968
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 9: I thought he really was on point. Both fighters are point.

969
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 9: I just think Omar just did a better job of

970
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 9: knowing how to win those rounds. Showed some really great experience,

971
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 9: high level experience there.

972
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 5: Both guys just really going for it. Yep, ray.

973
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 8: I would love to give you an opportunity to chime

974
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 8: in on the no contest between Tom Aspinall and Sele god.

975
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 4: Uh.

976
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 7: I don't even know where to go. My heart goes

977
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 7: out to tom Aspinall. I don't know why this motherfucker

978
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 7: is the victim and this ship.

979
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 5: But every time, every time these guys, you know, what

980
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 5: would you do about it?

981
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 7: Oh, I'll tell you one thing I do about it.

982
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 7: You poke a guy in the eyes. At first off,

983
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 7: it's an order. I'd give an automatic two points, an

984
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 7: automatic point. Who wants their coach, I mean as a

985
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 7: coach who wants to see that guy get poked in

986
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 7: the eye and viciously poked in the eye in the

987
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 7: first round. I don't give a fuck about continuing. This

988
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 7: ship is done to me, It's done on purpose. Every

989
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 7: I poke is intentional.

990
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 5: I don't gotta be two.

991
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 8: You're absolutely right, good minimum two, because then if you

992
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 8: win the round, right, then you're up ten seven in

993
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 8: a three round five right, and then maybe you're incentivized

994
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 8: to fucking continue if you can half see Yeah, you know.

995
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll tell you. The first thing is yeah, I

996
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 7: don't know. I feel bit Forrasmall. He shouldn't take any

997
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 7: criticism at all. He said it in the ring. I

998
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 7: got my fucking eyebul pushed to the back of my head,

999
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 7: Like what you want the guy to do? I mean,

1000
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 7: I tell you, if you want to see the fight,

1001
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 7: go one, give him a half hour to recover. Let

1002
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 7: him go in the back. You want to fight, Yeah,

1003
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 7: let the doctors come in and treat them. Let him

1004
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 7: squirt some drops in there. I don't know.

1005
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 8: Well, I'm serious, we know, I mean, Kenny, I know

1006
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 8: you're laughing, but I really this is what I'm saying.

1007
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 8: I was talking about weather delays in American football games earlier. Yes,

1008
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 8: you take him to the back and for a lot

1009
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 8: of hope. Yeah, you give him twenty minutes if you're

1010
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 8: so bloodthirsty, right, yeah, exactly.

1011
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 7: Their genius way you're dealing with is whatever you do,

1012
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 7: don't say you can't see. We're not gonna ask you.

1013
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 7: I mean, how crazy is that? Hey, Doc, whatever you

1014
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 7: do when you go in there, look at him, don't

1015
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 7: ask him if he could see, because obviously the motherfucker

1016
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 7: can't see, and then the fight will be over. That's

1017
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 7: actually brilliant, that's brilliant.

1018
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 5: You want the guy to fight, let.

1019
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 7: Him get treated. I don't know, there's gotta be some

1020
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 7: embedded and you're blaming aspinall.

1021
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1022
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 7: I mean, why would you not want to poke a

1023
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 7: guy in the eyes in the front. Why what's incentive

1024
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 7: not to You're gonna get and you're gonna compromise the guy.

1025
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 9: And this I was just saying, Ray, It's like everybody

1026
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 9: knows they get at least one foul, a shot to

1027
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 9: the knots or maybe you get one shot to the

1028
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 9: knots one to the eye. Oh, they're two different fouls,

1029
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 9: So I'm good. It's like every time, you know, what

1030
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 9: do you think about finding fighters? Do you think that

1031
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 9: would cut down on it.

1032
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 7: That's interesting. I would Yeah, first off, I would try anything.

1033
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 7: I'd come up with a list and I go right down.

1034
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 7: You have to stop it because it was I got

1035
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 7: to tell you, you know, Yeah, I get it. It

1036
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 7: ruined the night. Everybody wanted to see the fight. But

1037
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 7: to make that guy the victim, I think is just

1038
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 7: horrendous at this point. And again, yeah, it's part of

1039
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 7: the game. You fight with one eye. I don't know, man,

1040
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 7: and Pope, make the let him poke the other guy

1041
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 7: in the eye, make it easy. I don't know. I

1042
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 7: don't know. I really don't even know at this point.

1043
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 7: You know, oh, man, Yeah, it's not like you know,

1044
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 7: you could take an illegal blow and it could be okay.

1045
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 7: But if it's not okay, it's not okay. Nobody show me.

1046
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 7: Look what they did even with Kevin Holland with the

1047
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 7: groin shot, and now we're starting to see groin shots

1048
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 7: that are so bad that guy can't even walk. Don't

1049
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 7: you want that, Kenny, You're out in the street fight

1050
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 7: and the guy's got one eye. You know that's bothering them?

1051
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 7: Who wouldn't want that?

1052
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 5: Right? Yeah, don't I don't know.

1053
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 7: I don't know. I thought it was yep, you know

1054
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 7: what's gonna You know that's a guy goes in the

1055
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 7: robber's store and the guy fucking cracks him in ahead

1056
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 7: with a bat. He's going to jail, not the guy

1057
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 7: rubbing the store. Like it's the same shit, Like, are you.

1058
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 5: Teaching the three stooges defense?

1059
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 13: Now?

1060
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 5: Ray for the for your fight?

1061
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 7: At this point you have to I'll tell you what

1062
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 7: I do teach though. First thing in the street fight,

1063
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 7: you get your fingers in those eyes as quick as possible.

1064
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 5: That's one of the easiest ways stupid.

1065
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 7: If you don't, you're actually stupid if you don't. And

1066
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 7: I'm starting to think you're an idiot if you don't

1067
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 7: do it in MMA, because nothing's gonna happen to you,

1068
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 7: and you're gonna have a big advantage.

1069
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 8: You know, Well, maybe this will affect change because it

1070
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 8: is the first time in UFC history that in the

1071
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 8: moment a title fight ended in a no contest like this.

1072
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 8: Daniel Cormier and John Jones later became a no contest,

1073
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 8: but this is unprecedented, and uh, you're absolutely right. Two

1074
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 8: points minimalistically, and then this would have been three because

1075
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 8: you get two points for the impacted I and then

1076
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 8: the one point for the other I that was in

1077
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 8: Adverton Ray and the nature of time.

1078
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 5: How much do you have?

1079
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: No?

1080
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 5: No good?

1081
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 7: We got ten minutes at least.

1082
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: Okay, So.

1083
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 8: I have to ask you, did you see Alexander Volkov

1084
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 8: and ja Yelton Almeta?

1085
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 7: I actually did not see the fight?

1086
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 5: Okay.

1087
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 7: I heard, I heard about it, and when I heard

1088
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 7: about it, I kind of liked, but I had I didn't.

1089
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, I'm going to table that and get

1090
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 8: to that with Kenny on the back end. So did

1091
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 8: you see Quillen Salkild's knockout of Nasrat hack preass?

1092
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 5: I did not see it. I was calling the fight,

1093
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 5: but I did not see.

1094
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's fun. So a lot of people, John, I

1095
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 7: apployed you for even making it that had that trip

1096
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 7: had to be coming back?

1097
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I've been there nine times in the

1098
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 8: last seven years, so oh you mean being here today? Yeah? Yeah, Well,

1099
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 8: I mean the does the last decade not to show

1100
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 8: you my commitment to this stupid fucking podcasting.

1101
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 7: I know, I know what you're talking about. I know

1102
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 7: which podcast you were talking about. You got your you

1103
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 7: got your flowers. I had to figure that out. Oh yeah,

1104
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 7: you're the man, but I'm saying it's crazy.

1105
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, there's no doubt for fourteen twenty five is

1106
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 8: not short, but yeah, real quick. So you know, sometimes

1107
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 8: people are like, dude, why is John Anna talking about

1108
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 8: bakeries right now? And I don't know that Quillan's going

1109
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 8: to do that in that moment, and I almost miss

1110
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 8: Leon Edwards is knockout of Kamara Usman. But I was

1111
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 8: talking in the moment about you know, Nasrat hack preass

1112
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 8: parents getting him into training because he was overweight as

1113
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 8: a kid. And then I turned to Laura Sanko, I'm like,

1114
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 8: but you know, they owned a bakery. So I was

1115
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 8: gonna say, I know the kids don't away, but my

1116
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 8: parents had owned a bakery. Now I was a fat

1117
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 8: kid anyway I would have been if my parents owned

1118
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 8: a bakery. So I say the bakery thing, and then

1119
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 8: you know, God just seems to for better or for worse.

1120
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 8: I think for better put me in these positions where

1121
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 8: all of a sudden I say the word bakery and

1122
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 8: the next thing you know, it's the knockout of the year,

1123
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 8: and people are like, man, and it's just on one.

1124
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 8: Can we replace him, and I'm like, well maybe next year,

1125
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 8: but you know, like so, and then it ends up

1126
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 8: being the knockout of the year.

1127
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 5: I didn't see it live.

1128
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 8: I saw the replay, and I just brought it up

1129
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 8: here before some of the main card stuff because some

1130
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 8: people are calling it the most vicious knockout they've ever seen.

1131
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 9: Ken dude, you know again, There's only been a few

1132
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 9: moments in this sport where I'm like actually terrified and

1133
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 9: really really worried for the other guy, and that was

1134
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 9: one of those.

1135
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 5: I was very concerned for Hacked Parass.

1136
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 9: As soon as he touched the side of his head,

1137
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 9: he was out and he was falling with with a

1138
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 9: limp body with his head already tilted out to that

1139
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 9: side where if you know, landed.

1140
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 5: You get break his neck. I mean, that was that

1141
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 5: was a very very scary knockout.

1142
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 9: And you know, unfortunately hack Parass was kind of dropping

1143
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 9: his hands, like his hands were kind of moving up

1144
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 9: and down with that kind of style, and man, he

1145
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 9: got caught at the wrong time. But that that was

1146
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 9: a scary knockout. Like, yes, it was amazing, but it

1147
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 9: was also scary that a.

1148
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 7: What a what a pussy for not getting up quickly though.

1149
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 7: All right, oh too early? Sorry about that guy. I mean,

1150
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 7: that's what I'm saying, Like, when does it stop that

1151
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 7: that that kick was vicious in that pool guy, And please,

1152
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 7: that's that's a that's a joke, probably at the wrong time.

1153
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that's a joke.

1154
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 7: He was out for a Well, I'm just trying to

1155
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 7: make how fucking crazy everything is.

1156
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 8: Well, I'm thinking right now, this was the first time

1157
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 8: I trotted out twitching on the canvas since Luke Rockhold

1158
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 8: and vtrore Belford. And now I'm all of a sudden

1159
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 8: having regret here live in the moment, because you know,

1160
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 8: Cody's saying he thought this could have been disastrous.

1161
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 7: You know, and I get you know that he was

1162
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 7: out for a while, and like Kenny said, he went

1163
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 7: out that then it's the full lift of that, you know.

1164
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1165
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 8: Well, Quill and Salkill with an amazing highlight for the

1166
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 8: young kid from Perth w A and we hope Nasrat

1167
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 8: takes his time to recover. He had won five fights

1168
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 8: in a row and Quill and Salkild attended the first

1169
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 8: three UFC pay per views as a fan in Perth.

1170
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 8: He wasn't even training when Nastrat Hackbress made his UFC.

1171
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 8: He wasn't even training when Nasrat made his UFC debut,

1172
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 8: and he's got the best mustache.

1173
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 5: In the UFC.

1174
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 9: Ray.

1175
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 8: Would your rather sneeze confetti or have your burps smell

1176
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 8: like roses? Would you rather sneeze confetti or have your

1177
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 8: burps smell like roses?

1178
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 7: Sneeze confetti?

1179
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1180
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 5: Good party every time?

1181
00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1182
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 5: Party every time? You sneeze.

1183
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 8: When I seze, I sneeze nine times successfully, so.

1184
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 7: On somebody's birthday, I'd rather sneeze confetti. But outside of that,

1185
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 7: I'd rather burp roses or whatever the thing was.

1186
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 8: Would you rather have the power to bring good luck

1187
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 8: to others or always have good luck yourself?

1188
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 7: Wow?

1189
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 5: All day we don't have?

1190
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean I think I bring a lot of

1191
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 7: good luck to people. I'll take it for myself this time.

1192
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 5: There you go, very honest, Kenny.

1193
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 8: Would you rather have the power to bring good luck

1194
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 8: to others or always have good luck yourself?

1195
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 5: Well? If I have good luck, then I'd be able

1196
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 5: to spread all that good luck to.

1197
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 7: Kenny always takes it today an intellectual level that I

1198
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 7: can't go to. It's not fair. I can't go to

1199
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 7: that level.

1200
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 8: So for me, and I say this honestly, like, oh,

1201
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 8: it would be amazing to be like and you get

1202
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 8: some good luck, and you get some fucking good luck

1203
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 8: like Oprah.

1204
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 10: You know what?

1205
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 5: You over there?

1206
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 8: You look like you're down on your fucking luck. Here's

1207
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 8: some So to me, that's a no brainer. Ray, Would

1208
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 8: you rather have a personal chef or a personal trainer?

1209
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 5: Full life?

1210
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 7: Personal chef?

1211
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 5: Can flow? A personal trainer or a personal chef?

1212
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1213
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 5: Personal chef? Yeah?

1214
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 8: I thought for sure you'd say chef Kenny, right, I mean,

1215
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 8: if abs are made in the kitchen, I mean, let's

1216
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 8: start there. But I feel like I could even be

1217
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 8: my own personal trainer. A few of these guys online

1218
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 8: are fantastic, though, Ray, would you rather only be allowed

1219
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 8: to use spoons or only be allowed to use knives

1220
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 8: for the rest of your life?

1221
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 7: Oh?

1222
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 5: Can't kill anybody with a spoon?

1223
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 7: Ray O, No, you definitely could kill somebody with a spoon,

1224
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 7: But uh, I'm gonna go with it. I'm gonna take

1225
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 7: the spoon. I can cut with a spoon and pick

1226
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 7: it up. Once you cut with a knife, well you

1227
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 7: gotta stay of it then, And I'm going with the spoon.

1228
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 5: And you're already a trained killer. Ray. Would you rather dance?

1229
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 8: Would you rather dance together in the rain or cuddle

1230
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 8: by the fireplace on a snowy evening?

1231
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 12: Oh?

1232
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 7: Man, man, I think I've done both of those things.

1233
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go I like, I'm gonna cuddle by the fireplace.

1234
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 8: I like that question for both of you. Kenny will

1235
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 8: lead with you. Would you rather have people think you're

1236
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 8: hilarious or hot?

1237
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 12: Uh?

1238
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 5: Hot? Hot?

1239
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 8: I mean I like that you recognize the vanity, right.

1240
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 8: Would you rather have people think you're hilarious or hot?

1241
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna follow Kenny. I'm gonna go hot.

1242
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 8: I'd rather people think I'm hot. Yeah, and you guys

1243
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 8: are laughing, so.

1244
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to. I'd like to think I'm funny

1245
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 7: and hot. But I guess you can't have everything, Kenny,

1246
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 7: you know what I mean?

1247
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 5: I know it. Ray. Two more and then we'll let

1248
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 5: you get thet here.

1249
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 8: Would you rather make out with a celebrity crush or

1250
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 8: instantly receive ten thousand dollars?

1251
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 7: Oh, I'd like to make it with a celebrity crush.

1252
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 5: Yeah. If you had said the other we were going

1253
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 5: to give you a raise, Kenny.

1254
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 8: Would you rather make out with a celebrity crush or

1255
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 8: instantly receive ten gis careful?

1256
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeah? Celebrity crush? Yeah yeah?

1257
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 8: And Ray, before we get out of here, would you

1258
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 8: rather have a pet sloth that wants constant cuddles or

1259
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 8: a pet sheeta that can make sandwiches?

1260
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 5: How did that one get through?

1261
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 7: We gotta.

1262
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 5: Sorry?

1263
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 7: What the hell?

1264
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 5: I joked that some producer came up with these Holy c.

1265
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 7: That's it.

1266
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 8: Well, Halloween's around the corner. Would you rather always have

1267
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 8: a clown nose on your face or wear a right

1268
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 8: yellow clown wig for every formal occasion? Oh? My gosh, no,

1269
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 8: I mean it goes on to say, would you rather

1270
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 8: have a talking pet pineapple that dispenses strange advice or

1271
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 8: a pet rubber ducky that sings your innermost thoughts aloud?

1272
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 7: Ray?

1273
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 8: You like cotton candy rain or jelly bean hale? Or

1274
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 8: would you like to get on with the rest of

1275
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 8: your month?

1276
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 9: Oh?

1277
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 7: I'd like to get on with the rest of my money.

1278
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 7: I love you, buddy, and I'll tell you wig glasses

1279
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 7: at old times.

1280
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 5: On the way out. You're the best, buddy.

1281
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 8: Thank you, Ray Long go mante it every week here

1282
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 8: on the Annik and Florian podcast, Kenny, did you see

1283
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 8: the fight between Alexander Volkov and ja Yelton now Mata,

1284
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 8: I did, sir, So Volkov deserved a break here after

1285
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 8: losing to sele Gan in my opinion, and the rematches

1286
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 8: a plus three hundred underdog.

1287
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 5: So sometimes divine intervention whatever you want to call it.

1288
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 8: But for me, Jai Yilton now made his grappling was

1289
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 8: effective enough and damaging enough and violent enough. And if

1290
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 8: high amplitude is not the term you like, I think

1291
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. For me, that's twenty nine

1292
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 8: to twenty eight al meta every day of the week.

1293
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 8: I don't think Volkov wins the round on the on

1294
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 8: the basis of the effective striking, even if Ray and

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Speaker 8: many others and Dana, yeah, I think we all like

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Speaker 8: the sentiment, right, but like we can't lose sight of

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Speaker 8: the fact that this is mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 5: Your thoughts on that, yeah, listen, I thought it was

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Speaker 5: just a matter of fact. I kind of looked away.

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Speaker 5: I was like, well, obviously, you know, all Maide is

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Speaker 5: going to get to win it.

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Speaker 9: You know, maybe he could have done a little bit more,

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Speaker 9: and I was hoping that he would do more at

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Speaker 9: times with his striking, even as a grappler. I felt

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Speaker 9: like he could have done more. However, I thought he

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Speaker 9: won the fight. It's it's a tough one, you know.

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Speaker 9: I think that Volkov could have done more himself to

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Speaker 9: really swing swing the judges his way or swing I

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Speaker 9: guess my.

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Speaker 5: Opinion of the fight his way a little bit more.

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Speaker 9: I didn't think he did enough on some of those scorecards.

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Speaker 9: I thought all mada Is grappling was more effective than

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Speaker 9: some of the stuff he did. But you know, it

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Speaker 9: seems like, you know, these judges are really leaning on

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Speaker 9: the damage factor, and they felt that maybe all made

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Speaker 9: it didn't do enough.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I was a little bit surprised though for sure.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, certainly want to see more from Malia Genio and

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Speaker 8: a valuable lesson to learn. But yeah, I did sort

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Speaker 8: of feel like the outcome was kind of an eventuality

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Speaker 8: there after those fifteen minutes. I'm going to rifle through

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Speaker 8: some of these other results. Some people suggesting maybe this

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Speaker 8: was the worst pay per view card of the year.

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Speaker 8: Certainly a lot of decisions, Kenny, and it did feel

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Speaker 8: like an exceedingly long night. I would also submit to

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Speaker 8: folks that the crowd just did not seem particularly festive,

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Speaker 8: even though it was far and wide, just didn't feel

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Speaker 8: like there was much volume for whatever reason, you know,

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Speaker 8: and a lot of support for both athletes in the

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Speaker 8: main event, but one of the quietest pay per views

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Speaker 8: that I have experienced. Great knockout win for Ozamont Murza

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Speaker 8: Khanov and that bouncing the step and that Potesy Man,

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Speaker 8: he's a real problem. Walter Walker making UFC history for

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Speaker 8: successive heel hooks, which is just incredible. I kind of

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Speaker 8: like to get thirty seconds from you on that. Nathaniel

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Speaker 8: Wood and Jose Miguel Delgado in just an awesome fight.

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Speaker 8: Ludovic Climb fighting through the broken ankle against Mattaw's round Betsky.

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Speaker 8: My twin brother texted me, I could He's like trying

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01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 8: to get me the message, Like, dude, he broke his leg,

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Speaker 8: you know, but like I have my phone face down,

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01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 8: so lots unpack anything that you'd like to get into there.

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Speaker 9: I'm all ears, Yeah, I thought the Alludviic Klein Rumbeski

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Speaker 9: fight was phenomenal.

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Speaker 5: Man, was that a bloody fight? One of the Blaze

1345
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 5: fights I'd seen, dude, and it only happened in round three.

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Speaker 5: I mean it was it was crazy. Maybe he got

1347
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 5: cutting round two, but anyways, a lot happened in that fight.

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Speaker 9: Cline had to fight through and you could see him

1349
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 9: kind of try to communicate to his corner. It seemed

1350
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 9: like he's like, hey, my foot is broken, my ankle's broken.

1351
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 9: For him to fight through the I thought was really impressive.

1352
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 9: But he looked really good.

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01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 5: And Ron Besky is just tough as hell. God, and

1354
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 5: who else we want to talk about?

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Speaker 8: Daniel Would and Jose Miguel Delgado. Did you see that

1356
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 8: fight by Chack?

1357
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Speaker 5: I did not see that.

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Speaker 8: That is actually worth watching. Okay, fascinating fight. Jose Miguel

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01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 8: Delgado did miss Waight, but I did think he won

1360
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 8: that fight. Homdy Ab del Wahab versus Chris Barnett.

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Speaker 5: That was oh sorry, Yeah. Yeah. There was a lot

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Speaker 5: of wrestling, a lot of not a whole lot going on.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, if there are people out there who want

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Speaker 8: like UFC fight pass homework, I'll point you to two

1365
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 8: fights this week. The worst fight that I've ever seen.

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Speaker 8: If you want to suffer through fifteen minutes worse than

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01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 8: Homdi abdel Wahab and Chris Barnett. Much respect Brian Wright

1368
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 8: and team abdellah Hob. I'm just saying, go watch Constantini

1369
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 8: Rochan versus Gabriel Gonzaga Heavyweight on Fight Pass, and then

1370
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 8: also watched the blood bath that was Kenny Florian versus

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Speaker 8: Sean Shirk because Mattaw's round Betsky that was as bloody

1372
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 8: a fight as I have called.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it was bad.

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01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 8: Would so much respect for his UFC career, and I

1375
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 8: do think Josemi guil Delgado out of the MMA lab

1376
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 8: will be a future UFC champion. Mario Bautista could be

1377
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Speaker 8: a champion in my mind if it weren't for this

1378
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 8: Marob dwallish willy character. But yeah, really I thought the oh,

1379
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 8: Walter Walker, can you give us something on the teal

1380
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 8: hooks Kenny, because I mean he's got all these different

1381
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 8: fucking angles.

1382
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Speaker 5: Thank goodness, Lorisanko is there. Shit's crazy. Oh my god.

1383
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Speaker 9: It was beautiful and you could see him setting up

1384
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 9: once he was in that kind of Z guard with

1385
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 9: that leg hanging out of there.

1386
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 5: I was like, he's going to go for this thing

1387
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 5: right now. I mean, he already hit three in a row.

1388
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 9: Why not, But he's found himself a move that works,

1389
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 9: and boyd doesn't work really well, and especially in that

1390
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 9: division where I don't think there's a whole lot of

1391
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 9: guys that are so submissioned savvy, like some of the

1392
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 9: lighter weight classes. Yeah, and uh and Walker Man found

1393
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 9: that move beautifully, looked like it was locked on pretty tight,

1394
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 9: and suther one had the tap Man.

1395
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 5: I thought it was great timing.

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Speaker 8: So Louis Sutherland's whole thing going in there, I mean,

1397
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 8: not his whole thing, but defensively it's like, just don't

1398
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 8: get He'll hooked, you know. And felt like he was

1399
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 8: in a pretty pretty good position to just not do that.

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01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 8: And sure enough, you know, eighty four seconds.

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01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 5: In not the guard you want to do against a

1402
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 5: heell hooker.

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01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 8: No, yeah, yeah, all right. UFC three twenty one is

1404
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 8: in the camp. Never a dull moment as we spend

1405
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 8: it forward. The Pronounceidation of the Week is brought to

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Speaker 8: you by Total Wireless, the official wireless brider of US.

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Speaker 8: He get unlimited data that won't slow you down. So

1408
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 8: we got a couple of women fighting each other and

1409
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 8: we're gonna have some fun with the pronunciation of the week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got three files today.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna save one, but we have this first one, Kenny.

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Speaker 8: You can see her name populated, and if you are

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Speaker 8: audio only, her first name Alice, right, yes, like from

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Speaker 8: the Brady Bunch, the housekeeper Alice may shayst in peace.

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Speaker 8: And the last name is spelled ar d e l

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Speaker 8: e a N. So we're gonna have you give a

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Speaker 8: go with this one and then we'll get to her opponent.

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Speaker 5: All right, so you're looking at it. I want to

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Speaker 5: say Ardeline, but yeah, I would maybe Ardellian. Are you

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Speaker 5: going to give us her first name as well? You

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Speaker 5: think you Alice? Yes, sorry, Alice Ardillian. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 5: with that. I'm gonna go with what probably not what

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Speaker 5: I think it is. Yeah, press play Alice Ardellan, Alice Ardelan, Alise. Wow. Okay,

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I know we got the ardell Yan right, but I

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Speaker 8: don't know if you called her elease on the lease.

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01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 8: And this weekend she is fighting a woman whose first

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Speaker 8: name is Montserrat m O n T s e r

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Speaker 8: r a T. And then the last name is two

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Speaker 8: words spelled co o n e j o. Last name

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Speaker 8: ruiz r u i Z, which I don't think is

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Speaker 8: on the file. So, Kenny, we're just looking for the

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Speaker 8: first two names there of Elise ardel Yon's opponent, if

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Speaker 8: you'd be so.

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Speaker 5: Kind, monserrat Conejo Ruis. I just wanted to hear you

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01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,799
Speaker 5: and her say, go ahead, code.

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Speaker 10: Me norees monrat con norees monsrat.

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Speaker 5: Corn Conco means rabbit in Spanish. Wow, So it's like

1439
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 5: monsterrat rabbit, two animals in there.

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Speaker 8: All right, let's uh save the third file because it's uh,

1441
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 8: it's pretty easy on the years, and we're gonna make

1442
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Speaker 8: some predictions. It all goes down at the UFC Apex

1443
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 8: this weekend. UFC Fight Night, Garcia versus O Nama. Let's

1444
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 8: get to the main event Challenge.

1445
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 2: It's the Main Event Challenge.

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01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 6: The Main Event Challenge with John Hennick and Kenny Florian podcast.

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01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 8: Yes, that was Kenny Florian in the octagon with Joe

1448
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 8: Rogan do anything possible to win in my Boston accent.

1449
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 8: High pitched voice is gone, so is the Boston accent.

1450
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 8: Brian Petrie, good to see a buddy.

1451
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 5: How are we doing to?

1452
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 15: I love when you put bray in a blender with

1453
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 15: the wood you rather. We had a similar game when

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01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 15: I was in high school. It was basically instead of

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01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 15: would you rather, like.

1456
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 2: Would you blank? For yeah million dollars?

1457
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: Right?

1458
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 2: And uh yeah it was. It was always fun putting

1459
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 2: people blend.

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01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 8: I did really bad things sometimes well not well, this

1461
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 8: one thing I shouldn't have done for money that I

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01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 8: did because it was my better judgment bought they induced.

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Speaker 8: So we're gonna make some selections to sure. Now you

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01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 8: guys were gonna make four picks right right, but you're yeah,

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01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 8: and you guys all understand why of course. In the

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Speaker 8: women's BANDONM weight division, Dumont minus one forty two Kaitlyn

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Speaker 8: Vida plus one twenty, Big Norm, need I say more?

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01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 8: Big Norm getting absolutely royally fucking screwed by all these comebacks, Okay,

1469
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 8: Amanda Nunez, Ronda Rousey, Now, like, does anybody other than

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Speaker 8: the Anakin and Florian podcast want to acknowledge this beyond

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Speaker 8: a modicum of a fuck?

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Speaker 5: Can he?

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01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 8: Right? Norma Dumont la horizontal minus Jedice Brazil. She's won

1474
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 8: five in a row right former champions, former title challengers.

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Speaker 8: She's won a five round fight in the UFC. She's

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Speaker 8: won eight of nine since being knocked out by Megan

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Speaker 8: Anderson in her UFC debut, Brian, I guess the big

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Speaker 8: issue other than the big names Kayla and Amanda, potentially

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01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 8: Ron and everything else, zero finishes. Yeah, what's she gonna

1480
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 8: do about it?

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01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 5: This weekend? Kaitlyn Vieta the opposition kid Big Norm.

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Speaker 2: Shout out Paul Shagg for the Big Norm.

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01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 15: Listen, Big Norm got a little bigger, you know what

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01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 15: I mean, She's got a little more big to her

1485
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 15: on the what do you mean? Oh, on the Jeff

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01:11:55,880 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 15: side there, Johnny, Little Jessica very serious and she looks fantastic, right,

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Speaker 15: she looks she looks incredible.

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01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 2: I know she went through divorce. Do it girl to

1489
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 2: get to what you're doing?

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01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 5: Yea, Erica Petrie still watched the show, know she But.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm obviously a fan of Big Norm. You

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01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

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Speaker 15: I think she is, you know, besides the finishes, she's

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01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 15: a tough girl to get out of there. She's she sticks,

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01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 15: she's big, she's sturdy, she's hard to get taken down.

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Speaker 15: But she's fighting the girl exactly the same way as her.

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Speaker 15: They both like to slow the action now. Kalyn vieire.

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01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 15: It only has one finish in the UFC, and they

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Speaker 15: both like to just slow it down. Cage walk a

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01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 15: little bit clay cage control. I'm gonna hit you with

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01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 15: like maybe thirty strikes and see if we get a decision.

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Speaker 15: I mean, the over two and a half is probably

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Speaker 15: minus eight hundred if you're a whale, empty everything on that,

1504
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 15: because this isn't gonna get finished. But I think it's

1505
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 15: Big Norm by decision. I think she's gonna get it done.

1506
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,839
Speaker 15: I think she's faster. I think she's a little more athletic.

1507
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 15: I do think I like her hands a little bit

1508
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 15: better than Fear. I think Vander like she like stares

1509
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 15: a little too much. And then you know she's stubborn

1510
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 15: to get taken down, but she just doesn't do enough

1511
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 15: when she stops to take down. I don't know if

1512
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 15: she's worried getting gassed out or what. She's obviously durable,

1513
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 15: she's obviously tough, but there's just some kind of blocks

1514
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 15: sometimes when she gets in there, and I think Big

1515
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 15: Norm is past that. She's not a nice little wedding

1516
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 15: streak right now. And yeah, I like Big Norm in

1517
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 15: this spot, of course, I do.

1518
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 8: Ken flow kentlyn VI EIGHTA, nine and four in the UFC.

1519
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 8: Pretty good career in her own right. Couple of five

1520
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 8: round wins over Holly Holm and Misha Tate. Thought Kayla

1521
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 8: Harrison tough as hell as well, but yeah, kind of

1522
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 8: takes the air out of the balloon overall, not putting

1523
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 8: anyone away nor in seats. I guess what do you

1524
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 8: make of the bandam weights that you are picking here today, sir?

1525
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kelllyn Viea is a good fighter. I would like

1526
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 5: to see more volume.

1527
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,560
Speaker 9: I'd like to see more activity and I think that

1528
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 9: you know the problem with that also is that she's

1529
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,879
Speaker 9: a little flat footed and that is gonna.

1530
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 5: Be a problem for Big Norm.

1531
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 8: Nice no.

1532
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 5: Got it going on, girl. I think that you know,

1533
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 5: her footwork is really good.

1534
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 9: Her ability to get in and get out and strike

1535
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 9: and use versatility with their strikes with speed, I think

1536
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 9: it's gonna be the difference here. I think the way

1537
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 9: Katln can win this fight if she's able to kind

1538
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 9: of ground Big Norm out, if she's able to hit

1539
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 9: some takedowns and slow it down.

1540
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 5: Not gonna be the most exciting fight, but that's how

1541
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 5: she wins it. Could she do it?

1542
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1543
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 9: Potentially, but I think Norma is gonna be More's gonna

1544
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 9: be more active. I think she's more dynamic, and I

1545
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 9: think that's gonna be more impressive to the judges if

1546
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 9: this does go to decision, which I think it will.

1547
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 5: So give me big norm come on.

1548
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, term of endearment and it originate here another way,

1549
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 8: Division on the main car live from the Apex this weekend.

1550
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 5: So Cody, your ROLEQ is gonna be taking on right.

1551
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 8: So I want to say the first dude's name, and

1552
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 8: then you're gonna play the file of his opponent, because

1553
01:14:55,360 --> 01:15:03,839
Speaker 8: this file is fucking amazing. Isaac Dulgarian minus two forty

1554
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 8: five taken on.

1555
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 13: My name is Galliad al Bay. My nickname is the Problem.

1556
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 13: My name is Galliard al Bay, and my nickname is

1557
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 13: the q own Problem.

1558
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 5: I like his nickname. That's the best, Cody. I'd like

1559
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 5: to hear that whole file again.

1560
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 13: My name is gallieldl Bay. My nickname is the you

1561
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 13: own Problem. My name is Galliard al Bay and my

1562
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,799
Speaker 13: nickname is the q own Problem.

1563
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 5: Yeah to my Dan, I love it.

1564
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 8: I'm gonna request to call his next fight. Never done

1565
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 8: that before. I just want to be able to say

1566
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 8: the Cuban problem.

1567
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 5: That's a Cuban problem. You got a problem with me?

1568
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 8: The Cuban fucking problem man taking on the Midwest Chop

1569
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 8: a pretty good nickname there, Dulgarian the Midwest Chopa minus

1570
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 8: two forty five Yahdar, the Cuban Problem Bayeusty arm so

1571
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 8: Uh Dulgarian trains out of Factory expride too in one

1572
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 8: of the UFC with a pair of finishes and on

1573
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 8: the other side of the Cuban Problem Reps Main Street

1574
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 8: Boxing and Maine Reps Main Street Boxing, A Muay Thai

1575
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 8: Gray Sie Baja West Chase fights out of Houston, Texas VP.

1576
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 5: Who do You Love?

1577
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 15: I was surprised by this line and being honest with you,

1578
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 15: Isaac Dulgarian, he gets a lot of love from the book.

1579
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 15: I mean Francis Marshall. He was an underdog, then he

1580
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 15: was a favorite of a Christmas ribory Guys Is Lost,

1581
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 15: and then he was like a minus twenty era Yeah

1582
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 15: minus went three hundred favorite over his last time. I

1583
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 15: do I know he's a newcomer short notice. He's got

1584
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 15: a lot of love from the books. When I capped

1585
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 15: this fight, I broke this fight down and looked at tape.

1586
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 15: Before he even looked at the line, I thought this

1587
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,839
Speaker 15: was a closer line fight. I give your given Dulgarian

1588
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 15: a little bit more prompts. He's got to finish his UFC.

1589
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 15: But Dabaye, I mean this dude. You know what I mean,

1590
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 15: This dude, legit the Cuban problem.

1591
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 2: He is a problem.

1592
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 15: And they're both very similar as well. They both sit

1593
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 15: on their punches and it's very pushy, right. They like

1594
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 15: the grapple. That's where they want to get it done.

1595
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 15: They want to get it done on the grappling side

1596
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 15: of things. I think Dabaya, you know what I'm saying

1597
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 15: his name perfectly there. I think he's a little bit

1598
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 15: looser on the ground. I think he's stronger. He used

1599
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 15: to find it fifty five nights at forty five. Dulgarian

1600
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 15: had problems with Christan Iriguezho. I know it's a forty five,

1601
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 15: but really he's a thirty five on the ground.

1602
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 5: You know that.

1603
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 15: That screams problems to me here. I think Dabaya is

1604
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 15: gonna get it done at plus money plus two hundred.

1605
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 15: I think that's a I think we're stealing from the

1606
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 15: books right here.

1607
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like it.

1608
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 15: I think they're gonna wa wash each other stand up.

1609
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 15: When he goes to the ground. I think it's gonna

1610
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 15: be dabaya. And I think he's gonna win by decision.

1611
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 15: I mean, come on, yeah, time I had it going

1612
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 15: so well. The problem, the Cuban Problem.

1613
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 8: John, all right, he's gonna you know, I mean we

1614
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 8: talk about like the why be coming to day like

1615
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 8: Rossauce Junior.

1616
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 5: The jong is fin you know, but you're changing that

1617
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 5: V to the.

1618
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 7: B like.

1619
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 2: Brain up for sure?

1620
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 13: Great?

1621
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 8: Uh right, Like Kenny and I weren't laughing until we

1622
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 8: just couldn't any longer.

1623
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 2: Kevin Kevin by jehost as well, you know, you know,

1624
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 2: to me, it's Kevin.

1625
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's a good example. Yeah, Kenny the Cuban Problem.

1626
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 8: Coming off of winning his UFC debut by first round

1627
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 8: submission over Connor Matthews. Now he takes on, uh the

1628
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 8: Midwest CHOPI kemfla, what do you think you're going? Midwest

1629
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 8: Chopper or the Cuban Problem.

1630
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 5: I am intrigued by this fight.

1631
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 9: I think that, uh, they are similar in that they

1632
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 9: get a lot done with their grappling, and they like

1633
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 9: to kind of sit down with their punch, just throw

1634
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 9: big stuff. They're not like kind of like quick combinations,

1635
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 9: fiery kind of kind of combinations. But a lot of

1636
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 9: it is, you know, geared towards getting in on those

1637
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 9: legs or getting to the body and getting those takedowns.

1638
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 9: There is a contrast in that takedown style though. Dulgarian

1639
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,799
Speaker 9: comes from the wrestling and del Baye comes from judo,

1640
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 9: and and you know, Cubans have very high level wrestling

1641
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 9: in a very high level judo. Now he was just

1642
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 9: a brown belt in judo or whatever, but he does

1643
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 9: know how to use those takedowns very well.

1644
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 5: He has probably better submissions than Dulgarian.

1645
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 9: But I think it may come down to the takedowns,

1646
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 9: and I think Dulgarian may be a little bit stronger

1647
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:26,440
Speaker 9: in that department.

1648
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 5: And that's why I'm leaning towards the house of Dulgarian.

1649
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 5: So gimme Isaac go the other way, all right? Well,

1650
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 5: to wait division boys.

1651
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 8: The thirty four year old Zimbabway and Timba Garimbo minus

1652
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 8: won thirty five taken on the soon to be thirty

1653
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 8: nine year old Philadelphia Day of Jeremiah Wells, who is

1654
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 8: plus one fourteen so Garimbo bribe back for the first

1655
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 8: time since getting sort of side swiped by Vicente Luka right,

1656
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 8: perhaps over confidence, submitted in fifty two seconds. It was

1657
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 8: USC three to ten late last year. Luke, of course,

1658
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 8: has had a decorated career. I would submit to you

1659
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 8: this was a bad loss for Grimbo. It's been nearly

1660
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 8: eleven months now, the slight favorite against Jeremiah Wells.

1661
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,600
Speaker 15: Your thoughts, Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned the confidence. I

1662
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 15: know him and Luca across pass training and he just

1663
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 15: felt maybe safe in there and.

1664
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 2: He got caught, and that's what's gonna happen.

1665
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 15: Grimbo's got a great story, right, He's improved every times

1666
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 15: out seven takedowns on Nico Price Fight before that, five takedowns.

1667
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 15: This guy who's primarily a striker, he's going against Jeremia Wells.

1668
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 15: We haven't seen a little bit. He's on two fight

1669
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 15: Loudons streak one one fight twenty twenty three, one fight

1670
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 15: twenty twenty four. He's thirty nine. But this dude, built

1671
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 15: like a fire hydrant, wants to take you down, wants

1672
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 15: to wrap your neck up.

1673
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 14: Right.

1674
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 15: His early UFC career, when he started was submitting everybody right,

1675
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 15: and his stand up is a work in progress. I

1676
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 15: think it's probably maybe a thirty nine to finished a

1677
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 15: product at this point. But it's enough to get him

1678
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 15: in zone into where he wants to do, and that's

1679
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 15: take you down. And I think Grimbo's offensive takedowns are great.

1680
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 15: I think they're oh, you know, I think he's working

1681
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 15: on that. How's the defense? How is that gond happen?

1682
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 15: Because Jeremia Wells is coming out your legs. Even if

1683
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 15: you hurd him on the feet, he's going after legs.

1684
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 15: Look at the selim's a fight. He was out on

1685
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 15: his feet and he's still won that fight. But I

1686
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 15: just keep taking him down. He's a Philadelphia tough boy

1687
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 15: that likes to get the fight to the ground. And

1688
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 15: I like Jeremi Wells here plus Money. Again, I thought

1689
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 15: that was a little strange for me. I Grimba getting

1690
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 15: a little bit of love from the books. I get

1691
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 15: it a little bit. He's easy to root for, but

1692
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 15: I think stylistically this might be a poor matchup for him,

1693
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 15: and I like Jeremiah Wells here at this plus Money.

1694
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 8: Cody trying to correct me in the chat, Buddy, I said,

1695
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 8: soon to be thirty nine. I have his exact birthday

1696
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 8: in my notes. He'll be thirty nine in three days.

1697
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 2: Six nineteen, six thirty nine.

1698
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 8: So sometimes my glasses are rose colored. Though he was correct,

1699
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 8: I'm peacher. Sorry, Sorry, Cody, you know bad Cody. I

1700
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 8: owe you an apology. I'm gonna send you something.

1701
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 5: That was really weird.

1702
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 8: I'm just overtired, So Kenny, sometimes my glasses are rose colored.

1703
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 8: But like, I feel like Jeremiah Wells like a really

1704
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 8: good fighter, and I've always sort of felt like he

1705
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 8: was going to do some things. He hasn't fought since

1706
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 8: February second, tenth, twenty twenty four, splitsitsion loss to pain

1707
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 8: last win April twenty second, twenty twenty three, split over

1708
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 8: semi the fucking Jedi, Wells the slight Dog or Garimbo

1709
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 8: the favorite Kenny, who do you love?

1710
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 5: Very interesting fight here.

1711
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 9: I think that Garimbo may be in trouble here because

1712
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 9: of that takedown defense that Brian was talking about. I

1713
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,480
Speaker 9: think that if he's able to get things done offensively

1714
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 9: with his takedowns to keep Jeremiah off balance, I think

1715
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 9: that would serve him well. I do think he's going

1716
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 9: to be the more technical striker, but do not sleep

1717
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 9: on the power of Wells. Wells may it might be

1718
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 9: like the prettiest striker out there, but if he lands,

1719
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:39,799
Speaker 9: he hurts you, and he's.

1720
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 5: Got some serious power. The dude is bricked up for sure.

1721
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 9: And you know, when I'm looking at this fight, I'm

1722
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,480
Speaker 9: leaning towards the underdog here as well. I think Jeremiah

1723
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 9: Wells is due. I'm sure he kind of likes this

1724
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 9: matchup Stylistically, Garimbo coming off a loss here after being

1725
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 9: very consistent, I think now would be the type of

1726
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 9: now would be the time to fight.

1727
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 5: Someone like Corimbo. So give me Jeremiah Wells all.

1728
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 8: Right, Brian big fight at heavyweight, Waldo Cortez Acosta minus

1729
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 8: one fifteen, Aunte Dalia minus one oh five. So the

1730
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,719
Speaker 8: Croatian Delia trying to pick up Team aspinall here certainly

1731
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 8: won't have Tom Right in theory to help over.

1732
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 7: You know.

1733
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 8: The final few days. One of the best nicknames in

1734
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 8: the game, Walking Trouble wo. He stopped the hardest stop

1735
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 8: marching to bord his UFC debut fifty five days ago.

1736
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 8: He's thirty five years of age, twenty six and six

1737
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 8: as a pro ken Flower was there, I believe when

1738
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 8: he won the twenty twenty two PFL title. Now sort

1739
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 8: of a pick him here, Brian against Cortes Acosta. Your

1740
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 8: thoughts on the heavyweights, if you'd be so cut, Yeah,

1741
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 8: I can be honest.

1742
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 15: I was a little sour on Sauca boy early in

1743
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 15: his career, you know, but now I'm kinda you know,

1744
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 15: I'm kind of with them with the little Sauca.

1745
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 2: You know, he's thirty four, which is a baby in

1746
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 2: the heavyweight division.

1747
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,560
Speaker 15: Yeah, and he came from a different sport, so I

1748
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 15: still think he's growing. I still think he's improving. My

1749
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 15: thing is, you know, Foster's a spin back, which I

1750
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 15: which I picked against him. I thought the takedowns would

1751
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 15: be too much. He proved they weren't. He's athletic, he's

1752
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 15: got a right hand, or excuse me, he's got a

1753
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 15: big overhand either side, big overhands. And the one thing

1754
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 15: he doesn't get he doesn't check leg kicks. But he

1755
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 15: just doesn't give a fuck, right, I don't ever see him.

1756
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 15: He switched stands a little bit, but I never see

1757
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 15: him limping or whatever. He gets his legs chewed up.

1758
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 15: He's got a fuck it whatever. Like the guy's mentally

1759
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 15: here and he's constantly improving the USC, which I like.

1760
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 15: He's a nice little uh. He's got some nice wins

1761
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 15: in the UFC, but he's still in his empasy. And

1762
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 15: then you get a guy from the PFL. Tom Assmall's guy,

1763
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 15: Tom Asmaal won't fight this guy.

1764
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 5: He's solid.

1765
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 15: He obviously loo good against Tapora, but I I watched

1766
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 15: his PFIL fights as well. There's some hiccups in there

1767
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 15: as well. I think he's really good as a front runner.

1768
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 15: When some resistance comes back to him, I think he

1769
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 15: can fade. He's been put out before.

1770
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 2: I think a cost is gonna put this guy out.

1771
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: I do.

1772
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 2: I think it costs his powers there. I think he's explosive.

1773
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 15: I think he's prime uh, And I like a cost

1774
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 15: in this spot A guy I don't pick a lot,

1775
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 15: I don't give a lot of love to. But I'll

1776
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 15: be saw stitting on Saturday night with with a nice

1777
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 15: little win in my bank account there.

1778
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 5: But so interesting. You got kind of quiet too when

1779
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 5: you picked him as if.

1780
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope he can't even hear.

1781
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 8: Cortes a Costa seven and two in the UFC five fight,

1782
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 8: winning Street Flow ended by Sergey Pavlovich. No shame in

1783
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 8: going fifteen hard with that monster.

1784
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 10: Huh.

1785
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 8: Good opportunity to bounce back, right, because Delia has some

1786
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 8: traction the aspinall rub everything else people talking about him,

1787
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 8: Ken Flow, What do you think about the comin event?

1788
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,759
Speaker 9: I think it's a really interesting fight because Ante Delia,

1789
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 9: I've seen him when he's hot, and I've seen him

1790
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 9: when he's cold, and defensively, he is vulnerable to getting

1791
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 9: hit and hurt. He is tough as nails. I've never

1792
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 9: seen the guy smile ever. I love his nickname guy.

1793
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 9: He's all business all. I've never seen him smile ever ever.

1794
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 9: But this dude means business man. But he's going against

1795
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 9: a guy in Waldo Cortes Acosta who who knows how

1796
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 9: to land shots. He has a knack for finding the chin.

1797
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 9: He's got some power himself, and I think he's gonna

1798
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 9: be fired up knowing Aunte Deli is a credential, so

1799
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 9: Brian is shop. He knows, he knows what's going on.

1800
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 9: So yeah, while I definitely think Onte can go in

1801
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 9: there and win this fight and maybe even make it dominant,

1802
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 9: he could also lose this fight and this being his

1803
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 9: UFC debut, A big fight here in a big spot.

1804
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 9: I don't know which delie is gonna show up, and uh,

1805
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 9: Waldo has been pretty consistent, so I'm gonna go with

1806
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 9: Waldo Cortez Acosta as well man.

1807
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 4: Coo.

1808
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 8: All right, better, way made event, Right back to the flow.

1809
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 8: Steve Garcia minus one thirty David Onama plus one ten

1810
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 8: ONAMA six and two in the UFC.

1811
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 5: It's a great fight.

1812
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 8: I mean, I rewrote the promo to say expect this

1813
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 8: to be an absolute scene win right ONAMA six and

1814
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 8: two in the UFC. Kenny, thirty one year old out

1815
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 8: of Uganda, trains at Factory X. I think he's an outstanding,

1816
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 8: well versed fighter. Strength of schedule, well, I guess just okay.

1817
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 8: Steve Garcia mean machine, mean finisher, always has been, even

1818
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:09,799
Speaker 8: pre UFC. He's thirty three Albuquerque, New Mexico, Jackson Wick Academy,

1819
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 8: slightly better UFC record seven and two in the UFC,

1820
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 8: better strength of schedule in my opinion, fascinatingly close fight,

1821
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 8: but Kenny, I do believe Garcia deserves these slight distinction

1822
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 8: as the favorite. I'm glad I don't have to make

1823
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 8: a pick. You guys, do ken flow take it away.

1824
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 5: This should be a fantastic fight.

1825
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 9: I think that Garcia needs to get off to a

1826
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 9: good start, or at the very least, don't let Onama

1827
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 9: get off to a good start. Onama can be a

1828
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 9: fast starter, and you don't want him to get that much, beliad,

1829
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 9: especially now the he's accrued a lot more experienced and

1830
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 9: of course all the momentum of winning heading into this fight.

1831
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 9: I think Onama's going to be the more athletic guy,

1832
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 9: but Garcia is going to be the bigger man, the physically,

1833
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 9: I think, more powerful guy. I think he might be

1834
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 9: a little bit better on the ground. I think that

1835
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 9: Garcia is going to hit a little harder. It's tough

1836
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 9: to tell. I think that, Yeah, John, I agree. I

1837
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,560
Speaker 9: think that Garcia's probably faced the better competition, and for

1838
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 9: that reason, I'm kind of leaning on him to win

1839
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 9: this fight. I think that it probably favors him if

1840
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 9: it goes into those later rounds. I think it probably

1841
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 9: favors Onama earlier in this fight. But you know, Onama

1842
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 9: is a very dynamic and dangerous fighter, and I think

1843
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 9: he's finally kind of comfortable in the UFC now, so

1844
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 9: tough time to be fighting ONAMA, But give me Steve Garcia.

1845
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 8: Brian Petrie, Steve Garcia, David Onama. They will lock the

1846
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 8: door behind them this weekend at the APEX.

1847
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 7: Who do you Have?

1848
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 2: I love the UF He's given these two guys in

1849
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: main event spot here. This is given me an amazing fight.

1850
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 15: Oh, these guys deserve it Onama Action Packsos, Steve Mee

1851
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 15: Machin Garcia. I slept on Garcia a little bit. I

1852
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 15: remember seeing this Charlie Austiveris fight and he got dropped

1853
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 15: like three times. I'm like, oh, man, you're getting dropped

1854
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 15: in this fight. Then he got dropped by Shyland or

1855
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 15: Becky and I'm like, oh, you're getting dropped in this

1856
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 15: fight as well. He had been knocked out previously, so

1857
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 15: I was worried about the chin. But these fights he's

1858
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 15: been putting together.

1859
01:28:59,600 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 5: Man.

1860
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 15: He sits down on his punches better than anybody I've seen.

1861
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 15: He's almost when he fights, he's almost already kind of sitting.

1862
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 15: And that left hand is awesome. It kicks him from

1863
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 15: really low good directions as well, and he's got big,

1864
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 15: big power in Nonama, who is mixing in wrestling Land

1865
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 15: three take times last fight out fight before that Landa

1866
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 15: to takedown. He's obviously getting better. He's a big, physical

1867
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 15: guy for one forty five. He also is no strangers

1868
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 15: some dog fights as well. You look at the Nate

1869
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 15: Lane where a fight. Look at the Mason Jones fight.

1870
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 15: He took on short notice. But this is five rounds

1871
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 15: and I know Steve Garcia prioritizes his conditioning, like this

1872
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 15: guy can go. He hasn't been five Browns, but he

1873
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 15: can go. So I think the later the fight goes

1874
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 15: is for Garcia. I think if if Onama wins, it's

1875
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 15: gonna be round one, round two knockout. But I think

1876
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 15: Garcia is gonna take over this fight. I think he's sharp,

1877
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 15: I think he's prime. I think he's ready for this.

1878
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 15: I think his takedown the fence is okay, but him

1879
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 15: getting up is even better. Like him like avoiding the

1880
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 15: grounds really good. And he's fucking nasty too when he

1881
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 15: gets on top. His elbows are sharp. I'm a big

1882
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 15: fan of Steve Garcia and now I've been watching tape

1883
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 15: all weekend on both these guys. Can't wait for the fight.

1884
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,600
Speaker 15: But my strong am I pick of Steve Barcia A

1885
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 15: late three to four tkoko.

1886
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 8: All right, nicely done, boys, We'll see how it plays out.

1887
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 8: We'll recap the piss out of it next Monday, November third.

1888
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,440
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1889
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,280
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1890
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:18,080
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01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 8: show supporting merchandise with promo code one more sleep So

1892
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 8: Ken Flow wins the week. Kenny was minus seven hundred

1893
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 8: and eighty two dollars and sixty one cents, Pea Tree

1894
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 8: minus eight hundred and seventy five dollars.

1895
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 5: Nice hits to highlight, though.

1896
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:35,719
Speaker 8: Brian Petrie had Mackenzie durn By decision and that paid

1897
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 8: a five hundred dollars wager at plus two twenty five

1898
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 8: eleven twenty five. Ken Flow hit on Ozamat Murzakonov at

1899
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 8: minus one fifteen. Nicely done there, and I did feel

1900
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 8: like Kenny got squeezed on a straight wager on Jaiilta

1901
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 8: and Almeta. Yeah, but the lead for Kenny is seventeen thousand,

1902
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 8: three hundred and sixty dollars. Brian Petrie, you have one

1903
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 8: thousand dollars to spend my man in which direction are

1904
01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:58,719
Speaker 8: you going huh.

1905
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is not normal. How again, I've

1906
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 2: been seeing some chirps online. It's like, what does Petrie

1907
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 2: doing this? I'm behind, so I gotta throw just hail

1908
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 2: Mary right this.

1909
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1910
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 15: Sure, I like to run the ball. I like to

1911
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 15: get a few yards on front down, but right now

1912
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 15: I'm throwing hail Mary's. So I got a big partlay.

1913
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 15: It's a three lagger, right, We're gonna go Acosta, We're

1914
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 15: gonna go Jeremiah Wells, and we're gonna go by.

1915
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1916
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 15: And that is plus eleven twenty four thousand Johnny. So

1917
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 15: that's gonna give me like eleven grand right there to

1918
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:26,799
Speaker 15: try to cut.

1919
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 8: The numb bub right, That's exactly what we're doing down

1920
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 8: the stretch. You know, I'm not gonna lean into every

1921
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 8: last result, but that's what we're trying to do here

1922
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:35,719
Speaker 8: as we chase down Kent flow.

1923
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 5: You know, as you try to emerge from a seventeen

1924
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:45,719
Speaker 5: thousand dollars deficits Kent flow, you gotta you gotta band.

1925
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 5: What are you doing here? UFC fight night, Gotta see

1926
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Speaker 5: U versus Onama. Let's see man with nice pronunciation of Garcia.

1927
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with three fitty on Big Norms.

1928
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Speaker 9: She's gonna bring the storm, three fifty on Big norm

1929
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Speaker 9: Let's oh, give me one fifty on Jeremiah Wells, Okay, nice,

1930
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Speaker 9: and then five huntret on my guy, Steve Garcia.

1931
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Speaker 5: Let's go, let's go. They have a little sprinkle of action.

1932
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Speaker 8: Bp MMA takes podcast later this week, I assume not Rursday.

1933
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Speaker 8: Probably Yepuddy, we'll have a great day to better eating

1934
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Speaker 8: best of the family and we'll talk to you real soon.

1935
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Speaker 5: Say it.

1936
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Speaker 8: Brian Peterie, chief handicapper Anakin Floring podcast, always bringing it

1937
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Speaker 8: in more ways than one. All Right, we got to

1938
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Speaker 8: get on out of here. I just have to say

1939
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Speaker 8: in closing, the hospitality in Abu Dhabi is just amazing. Right,

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Speaker 8: you want to talk about consistent room service. French fries,

1941
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Speaker 8: that's awesome. They're hot and perfectly fried every every time.

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Speaker 8: And uh, you know your Chicken Tika rap shows up

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Speaker 8: in thirty minutes every time. Oh should I get my

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Speaker 8: room made up today? And again I just got a

1945
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Speaker 8: standard room. No sweet, you know, right, standard room?

1946
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Speaker 5: Should I?

1947
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll just hit this makeup room button. I mean

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Speaker 8: in at your door in a minute, you know, he

1949
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Speaker 8: called anything you need. The hospitality really is. UH is

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Speaker 8: incredible and UH a nice way to work in that

1951
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Speaker 8: sort of environment. All right, Thanks everybody for watching live

1952
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Speaker 8: and after the fact, and for listening as well. Thanks

1953
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Speaker 8: to Ray Longo, Brian Petrie, our producer, Cody Merrow, thanks

1954
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Speaker 8: to Jason Anik for nothing, thanks for showing up today,

1955
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Speaker 8: and thanks to the h the Cuban Problem.

1956
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dearie for the audio file today.

1957
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Speaker 8: We're right back Monday, big stretch for the UFC essentially

1958
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Speaker 8: live right up until Thanksgiving, guitar shows a few weeks

1959
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Speaker 8: out as well, and of course the monster that is

1960
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Speaker 8: UFC three twenty two, November fifteenth at Madison Square Garden,

1961
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Speaker 8: Jack Dela Madeline's first title defense against the upcoming Islam Makasha.

1962
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Speaker 8: All right with that for Ken Plumb, John, and thanks

1963
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1964
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1965
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