1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, everybody, 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire, Monday, April TWI hope 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: everybody had a phenomenal weekend. It's draft week, people, so 4 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: you needed to pace yourself over the weekend. I had 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: a phenomenal weekend myself. Um, you know, went out for 6 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: some beers with buddies Thursday night, went out for some 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: beers and pizza with my daughter and her soccer team 8 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: and the dads on Friday. Uh, my kids played a 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: total of three soccer games this weekend. My son had 10 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: a I had I had a goal and assist, I 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: hit the cross, had the post. Uh, if you follow 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: me on, I G you know all this, and uh, 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: we played some basketball. It was just an action packed weekend. 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: And so I sit down Sunday night to start to 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: get some ideas about what we're gonna do on Monday's podcast. 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's draft week. I'm looking to the NBA 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: stuff and I start texting with Rob G and I 18 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: stumble upon what I think is just a massive story. 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: I think this has to be the story of the day. No, Like, listen, 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: we could we could go into Kevin Durant, maybe we 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: will later. Kevin Durant returned, was very very good. Uh, 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: and the Nets beat the Suns, and again everybody's like, oh, 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: the Nets are gonna win the championship. But again that's 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: so far down the road. It's like fifteen games left 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: per team in the NBA season. Okay. I see this 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: tweet last night from Ian Rappaport NFL Network. He's been 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: here on the pod, buddy of mine. He doesn't toss 28 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: stuff out there. To toss stuff out there, Ian Rappaport, 29 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: a stunner, basically says it is not gonna be justin 30 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: fields at three for the forty Niners in the draft. 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: It's down to Don Dune done, Oscar's drum roll, Trey Lance, 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: and Mac Jones. Here's the exact quote. This is a 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: stunner to me. I'm absolutely floored by this. As the 34 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: forty Niners closed in on their decision of which quarterback 35 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: to take it three, sources stays they're down to two 36 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: prospects and the belief is those two are Mac Jones 37 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: and Trey Lance. Sources say the focus does appear to 38 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: have shifted to those two. I'm floored. I'm gobsmacked by this. 39 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: Now we have discussed at length on this podcast about 40 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: why I believe it should be justin fields. Anybody who's 41 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: watched college football in the last two years thinks it 42 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: should be justin fields. A lot of people say they 43 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: would take justin Fields over Zack Wilson. And as a 44 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: quick reminder, this thing we call the NFL Draft is 45 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: not an exact science. It is extremely challenging. And as 46 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: a reminder, I will say of the four team quarterbacks 47 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: taken in the top ten from twenty two tho nine 48 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: to fourteen to the one in the top ten, zero 49 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: are still with their team. That's how poorly teams do 50 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: drafting in the top ten at quarterback history. Listen, it's 51 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: not that this is how it's always going to be, 52 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: but right now teams are doing a very poor job. Listen, 53 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: the game changing rapidly, and in Saunters Kyle Shanahan, I 54 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: gotta get up to three, and he trades up to three. 55 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: Obviously he has a quarterback he wants and here, I 56 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: don't know what nineties six hours before the draft, we 57 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: find out that that's either Trey Lancer, Matt Jones, and 58 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: we had Charles Robinson on the podcast last week and 59 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: he spoke to the arrogance of Kyle Shanahan, who you know, 60 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: if you really want to break it down, was he 61 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: born on third base? I don't. I don't know. His 62 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: dad was Mike Shanahan, a big big deal in NFL 63 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: coaching circles. And Kyle Shanahan at a very young age 64 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: gets an o C job in Washington. Yes, under his father. 65 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: He's doing the r G three Kirk Cousins dance, gets 66 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: r G three to the playoffs. R G three gets hurt, 67 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: then says, Okay, Kirk Cousins is the guy. He's our starter. 68 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: He gets into the playoffs, and so the media loves 69 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. But of course, you know, things happen and 70 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: it all fell apart in d C. I wouldn't. I 71 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: can't blame it on the Shanahan's and he ends up 72 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and then he ends up in Atlanta. And 73 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Kyle Shanahan was the o C when Matt 74 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: Ryan had the best season of his career and the 75 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: Falcons get to the Super Bowl. But oh yeah, the 76 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: offense choked badly in the worst collapse in Super Bowl history. 77 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: Now I don't have the stats off the top of 78 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: my head. Rob G. Of course, because he does radio 79 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: five days a week for the Odd Couple, he's very 80 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: familiar with the meltdown by the Atlanta Falcons and Kyle Shanahan. 81 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: So Rob G, please remind us just how bad the 82 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: meltdown was of Falcons Patriots in the Super Bowl. Oh, 83 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: it was really really bad. But you know, I don't 84 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: want to just focus on that one because I feel 85 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: like it doesn't give the totalitarity of how bad he's 86 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: been in the Super Bowls. Here's a couple of stats 87 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: that will blow your mind. In the last Super Bowl, 88 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: which was the Niners wanting as the Chiefs, I didn't 89 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: even get to that one. Tenlor melt out ten point 90 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: lead with under nine minutes to play. They lost. He 91 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: called fifteen plays in the fourth quarter, running the ball 92 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: down their throat. All games, all fifteen runs right. No 93 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: eleven times they called the past play. According to ESPNS 94 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: win probability metric, Shannahan and the Niners had a ninety 95 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: five point three percent chance of winning when they were 96 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: up by ten with seven six left. Of course, they lost. 97 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: Going back to the Falcons, the one you brought up 98 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: initially nine nine point six percent chance of winning when 99 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: they were up twenty eight to twelve with nine minutes left, 100 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: and of course they lost. So he was twenty eight 101 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: three in the third quarter, I believe, and then it 102 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: was the fourth with nine minutes left. Oh my gosh. 103 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: So listen, I'm not bashing Kyle Shanahan. Things happen. You know, 104 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: if you've played any sports, you've collapsed on the back 105 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: nine of a golf tournament, you've failed miserably trying to 106 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: close out of golf set, you know, it happens. It's 107 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: happened several times aufters Shanahan. But we're not gonna kill 108 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: Hi for it. The guy is very good at his job. 109 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: They run an incredible offense basically everywhere he's been. But 110 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: it's getting back to the arrogance part. I mean, this 111 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: is arrogance of the highest level, is it not. We're 112 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: talking about a guy in Trey Lance who looks the part, 113 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: no doubt, six four to five, rocked up. I mean, 114 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: the guy's a big time winner at the North Dakota 115 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: state level. He's twenty, it's played one game in the 116 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: last fIF sixteen months. Guy's seventeen career starts. Everybody knows. 117 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: And if you listen to last week's podcast with the 118 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: former Jets scout who worked under Bill Parcels, everybody knows 119 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: Bill Parcels hated quarterbacks who did not have a lot 120 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: of starts. Well, Mac Jones Trey Lance seventeen career starts, 121 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: and you know, I start reading about Trey Lance late 122 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: last night and it's like, you know, his dad got 123 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: it was in the CFL. He got invited to forty 124 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: Niners camp but got cut back when they had like 125 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders in the secondary. His dad was a cornerback. Um, 126 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: Trey Lance in high school ran the wing te offense. Now, again, 127 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: that's not a knock on trade Lance. That's just the 128 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: level of quarterback that this guy's been doing. Okay, wing 129 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: te offense in high school. So then he gets to 130 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: North Dakota State playing pretty bad competition, shreds it. And 131 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: that's your guy on that small sample size. Now, and again, 132 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: the stats don't say everything, obviously, and it's more about 133 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: the traits and the ability to read defenses and the 134 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: quick progressions. That's what makes the quarterback. And Kyle Shanahan 135 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: sees that and I guess his is is thumbing his nose 136 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: at Justin Field too. Oh. By the way, back in 137 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: high school, while Trey Lance was running the wing, t 138 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: Justin Fields was winning the Mr Football the State of 139 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: Georgia over Trevor Lawrence. I mean again, I know that 140 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: doesn't matter that much, but I want to give you 141 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: the perspective on a twenty year old quarterback in Trey Lance. Folks, 142 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: he had no offers until late in the process. Boise 143 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: State was like, yo, we're interested. The Big Ten teams 144 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: that reached out to Trey Lance wanted him to play 145 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: in the secondary. At six four, I mean he's up 146 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: to now. I guess he wasn't at that weight in 147 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: high school. But this is a guy who you know, 148 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: teams looked at and thought, oh, yeah, he can play 149 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: in the secondary. Now we know famously that Mac Brown 150 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: from his days at Texas, had wanted r G three 151 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: to play in the secondary, wanted I think Johnny Football 152 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: that he thought he would be a cornerback. So this 153 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: kind of thing does happen. But I'm not sure I 154 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: can recall a more meteoric rise than going from wingty 155 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: football in nowhere, Minnesota and within I guess three years 156 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna be the number three pick in the NFL 157 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: Draft going to the forty Niners, who, oh, by the way, 158 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl two years ago. Now, I'm 159 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: not just gonna sit here and take and bag on 160 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: Kyle shann in the entire time, obviously, like there's no 161 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: point in me doing. I'm not just gonna totally crap 162 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: on the guy. He's accomplished a ton. You know, can 163 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: obviously knows what he's doing. But to go back to 164 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: the arrogance thing, he's essentially telling his team this guy 165 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: that I like has so much potential and so much 166 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: upside that this quarterback who helped get us to the 167 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: super Bowl, and yes, I know he threw like, shoot, Rob, 168 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: was it eight passes in the NFC Title game against 169 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: UM against the Packers? I think it was eight six 170 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: for eight passing. This guy who was our quarterback that year, 171 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: and I coached him up and we got to the 172 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: super Bowl and then we were led by ten against 173 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: the Chiefs with nine minutes left. Yeah, I'm dumping that 174 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: guy for this kid over here out of North Dakota State. 175 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: I do wonder Rob, and I haven't fully thought this 176 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: through because I'm just so stunned by some of the 177 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: stuff that goes on in the NFL. How is the 178 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: locker room going to react to an immensely popular player 179 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: like Jimmy G. Face of the I guess he was 180 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: the face of the franchise, right, I mean, handsome guy 181 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: apparently dating semi famous women. You know, good looking guy, 182 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: stands up, commands the room, always smiling. He kind of 183 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: looks like a clerk kent to me without the glasses, 184 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: just like he's always grinning. And then you know, he 185 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: goes on the field and men delivers. Like I mean, 186 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppol is a really good quarterback. Bill Belichick saw 187 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: something in him and drafted him, and boom. The guy 188 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: gets paid to go, uh play for San Francisco when 189 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: he had like I think he was getting twenty eight 190 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: million a year or something in sane based on like 191 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: four career starts or eight career starts something something absurd. 192 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: But bottom line is, like Jimmy G. Super popular player. 193 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: The guys liked him. He went to the super Bowl 194 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: with them. Now he's always hurt. That's his big knock. 195 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: Excuse me, he can't stay healthy. Jimmy G. Continuously getting injured, 196 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: but like, you know, you're close to a super Bowl again. 197 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: And the plan is if Trey Lance is a guy, 198 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: and maybe it's mc davis, we'll get to mc davis 199 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: in a second. Mac Jones, I'm sorry, We'll get to 200 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: mac Jones in a minute. I'm really out on mac Jones. 201 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: But I can imagine like, oh, Jimmy g it's gonna 202 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: be our starter and we're all getting healthy and oh, 203 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna go I don't know, ten, and let go 204 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: eleven and six because they're seventeen games and we're gonna 205 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. So let's just say they win 206 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: to two games in the playoffs, one or two whatever, 207 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: what do you and and then you lose? What are 208 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: you going to tell the team? Like, hey man, this 209 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: guy we had a good ride, we had you know, 210 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: went to the super Bowl, we had another playoff run. Um, 211 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: but this is the guy that I'm picking. Like I 212 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: know that they trust Shanahan and like you kind of 213 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: have to. It's like this is what do they call it? 214 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: This is uh not a friend business at show business? 215 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: Like that's what the NFL is, right, And I just 216 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: so many questions. Rob, I'm just stunned that he would 217 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: like again. Tray Lance looks the part, no doubt about it, 218 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: and he's got some great, gaudy numbers at North Dakota State. 219 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, are we serious trade Lance over Justin Fields? 220 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: Listen and I we didn't really talk about the Justin 221 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: Fields epilepsy stuff. I don't feel like that warrants too 222 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: much of a discussion. He's on medication for it. Um. 223 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's been other professional athletes who have played 224 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: with epilepsy. I don't know how many quarterbacks have. But 225 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, Justin Fields looked fine um in his career 226 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: in high school, in getting to Georgia and trans ringing 227 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: and playing in it Ohio State. Like, I know that's 228 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: not the NFL, but I mean, Justin Field certainly has 229 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: looked the part his entire career. I remain stunned that 230 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: has come down to Mac Jones, who will get into 231 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: in the second layer and Trey Lance Rob But I'm 232 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm floored by this, you know what. I was initially 233 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: Florida when I saw the tweet from me and Rappaport 234 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: last night, But the more I thought about it, I 235 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: am not shocked at all, and it's because we've heard 236 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: now for a few weeks, Charles Robins said on this pod. 237 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: John Mittlekoff said on on Colin Cowherd's podcast. Whatever choice 238 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan makes is gonna be about him. It's his 239 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: arrogance that's going to decide who they get. Not the 240 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: most talented guy, not the most pro ready guy. It's 241 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: whoever he thinks will run his system the best. And 242 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: I want to take you back last week, um, late 243 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: last week. I think it's Tom Pella Sero. I think 244 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: it's how you say his last name. I'm not sure. 245 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: NFL dot com he posted a nice call him listing scouts, GMS, executives, coaches. 246 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: You know, they're unfiltered thoughts on all these prospects. And 247 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: if you look at Mac Jones and if you look 248 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: at Trey Lance and what they're being said about those 249 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: two guys. They each have their pros and cons whatever, 250 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: but one common denominating between the two. Each one specifically 251 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: mentions how smart they are pre snap. This guy is 252 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: effing smart, one scout says about Trey Lance. One guy 253 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: talks about Mac Jones, the difference between him and other 254 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: guys he can come to the line of scream and 255 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: he can tell you where he's going pre snap. He's 256 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: that smart. And the knock, whether it's fair or unfair 257 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: about justin fields that's been painted for the last few 258 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: months now is that he is a one read quarterback. 259 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: Now we've had people say on national uh television say, 260 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: I don't care if he's the one red quarterback of 261 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: that one reads open why would you not throw it 262 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: to him? You know what I mean? Like that, I don't. 263 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't understand the difference. And so that's I guess 264 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: what mac Jones Trelins have going for him going back again. 265 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah another friend of the podcast. He said at 266 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: his media availability last week promoting the draft, when he 267 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: was asked, what do you think about Mac Jones possibly 268 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: going number three? He is easily the least talented of 269 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: the quote unquote big five quarterbacks, He says, quote you 270 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: always hear it's about the Jimmy's and the Joe's, not 271 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: the exes and os. That would be an exs and 272 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: o's decision. It is a I believe so much in 273 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: the xs and os. I need somebody that can just 274 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: see the game through my eyes and make those decisions. 275 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: That's kind of him in personating Kyle Shanna. So that 276 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: again reiterates what you've said, what Charles Robinson said, what 277 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff said, what Daniel Jeremiah just said. There, Kyle 278 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: Shanahan believes so much in himself and his system and 279 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: his ability to call plays that he doesn't care who 280 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: the best most talented guy is. He doesn't care who 281 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: the most pro ready guy is. He doesn't care who 282 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: the best quarterback is. All he wants is a puppet 283 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: who was going to run the offense that he wants 284 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: because the offense is ultimately what's going to make them successful. 285 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: You know that's rob That's pretty smart of Kyle Shanahan 286 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: to do that, now that I think about it, because 287 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: guess what, you will always escape criticism. Well, no, no, 288 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: my system works. You weren't running the system correctly, So 289 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: you could always avoid blame by just saying, well, yeah, 290 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: you weren't. You weren't doing the system. I told you 291 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: what works. This works. It's my system. It worked in Atlanta, Okay, 292 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: it worked in Washington, it worked in San Francisco, and 293 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: it's going to continue to work in San Francisco. He 294 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: could just keep playing that card and say, hey, you know, 295 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: my guys didn't make the plays down the stretch of 296 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl against the Patriots. You know, DeVonta Freeman 297 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: picks up a blitz. We're not sitting here criticizing me. 298 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: You know, if Jimmy g is hitting that pass, I 299 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: forget who the guy was deep over the middle um 300 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: in the ends of Emanuel Sanders. Emmanuel Sanders, thank you. 301 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: And if if that's throws where it should be in 302 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: my system, then we're not arguing. And I'm a two 303 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: time Super Bowl champ. So you know, Cale Shannah, he 304 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: could play that card, and I kinda I kind of 305 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: like that strategy. But but couldn't you push back really 306 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: easily and say did you win any playoff games in Washington? Oh? 307 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: You didn't. Okay, so we'll create that one out. You 308 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: make it to Atlanta, you get to the Super Bowl, 309 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: great team, but didn't you have Julio Jones on that offense. 310 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: Wasn't DeVante Freeman the highest paid running back in football 311 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: either the year before the year after the Super Bowl? 312 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 1: H then you get to the San Francisco forty Niners. 313 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: Are you gonna tell me with a straight face the 314 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: reason they got to the Super Bowl? Was because of 315 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: that offense and Jimmy G. Or was it because their 316 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: defense was incredible and they had the best front four 317 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: in football? So you can ride that arrogance. Yeah, I 318 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: look what I did all these different places that I 319 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: went to without bringing context into it. Yeah, well you could. 320 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure Rob hold On, I'm sure he 321 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: would say, excuse me, did you mention DeVonta Freeman? Oh? Interesting? 322 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: Since I left him and he got paid, I haven't 323 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: seen him do a damn thing. Is he still in 324 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: the league. And I don't know if he could do 325 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: that with a lot of guys from Washington. Uh, he 326 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: certainly can say it with r G three, who went 327 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: from and again, you know r G three had injuries, 328 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: so did Davonta Freeman. But he can say my system. 329 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: Look at all these guys who thrived, and then what 330 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: happens when they're out of my system. They ain't doing anything. 331 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: And you know it will be on Jimmy G should 332 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: he leave after this year, there's gonna be some pressure. 333 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: Like yo, these guys with Belichick, and Belichick liked him 334 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,239 Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanna had liked him, and um, I mean 335 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna pay Jimmy G big bucks. If two of 336 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: these smartest minds in the NFL, and and maybe I'm 337 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: giving Kyle Shannah had too much credit. Maybe I should 338 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: say offensive mind for him. But if both of them 339 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: wanted Jimmy G and uh, you know, had some success. 340 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: I know Jimmy G didn't play much for the Patriots, 341 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: but the mere fact that he was good enough to 342 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: uh go right to San Frey and and become a 343 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: stud like you know, Kyle Shannahan has a lot to argue. Now, Rob, 344 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: this is another layer. I barely even touch this um 345 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: about Trey Lanton. Again. I don't mean to come down 346 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: in our twenty year old kid who's from a small 347 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: town in Minnesota. I don't want I'm not crushing him. 348 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to. He's good. He's certainly a top 349 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: ten pick, no doubt. I'm just perplexed by the over 350 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: Justin Fields aspect. And I will add this um like 351 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: Justin Fields in two years was being forced to make 352 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: second reads in a lot of games because oh yeah, 353 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: he's playing against NFL caliber players every week in the 354 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: Big ten. Okay, I mean he's seeing better defense and 355 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: practice throwing against guys at Ohio State would go to 356 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: the NFL more than Trey Lance is seen in real action. Okay, 357 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: the last time we saw a quarterback out of North 358 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: Dakota State was a guy by the name of Carson Wentz. 359 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: He went super high in the draft. They loved him. 360 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: First year, you know, it's all right, he was okay, 361 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: they weren't very good. Five team a little below five. 362 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: Second year, Carson Wentz is leading the m v P 363 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: vote and then he goes down with the said a 364 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: cl and the Eagles win the Super Bowl without him. 365 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: To this date, Carson Wentz still has last I checked, 366 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: zero playoff wins. Hell, he's never finished a playoff game, 367 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: rob And you know, you look at a small town 368 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: guy like that, and this is my was one of 369 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: my big questions. When Carson Wentz got the hint of adversity, 370 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: things go south, arguing with a coach, fan base, uh 371 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: start to booing him. How did he react? I don't 372 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: want to be a backup, Get me out of town. 373 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: He didn't react well. And I just you wonder about 374 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: some of these guys from a small town playing at 375 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: a low, low level of college football and how they're 376 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: gonna handle adversity. Listen, do you think there's gonna be 377 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: adversity Rob g in the San frand locker room in 378 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: a massive media market. If he doesn't deliver and quick, 379 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: there's gonna be massive pressure on him. This ain't gonna 380 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: be like Pat Mahomes and Casey. You know, Pat Mahomes 381 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: I think he went tenth or eleven whatever it was, 382 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: and he steps in for Alex Smith. They had won 383 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: a playoff game. But you're in Kansas City. It's not 384 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: like a major media market. San Francisco every year is 385 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: getting marquee games because they're San Francisco. They're on Sunday 386 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: at football, Monday night, Thursday night. The Chiefs before Mahomes, 387 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: they were not a massive TV draw. They were okay, 388 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: we'll give you the one PM game, you know, you know, 389 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: the regional game. Like there was no pressure on Mahomes 390 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: like Alex Smith never. I mean, listen, he was a 391 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: good quarterback. He never led the Chiefs to the Super 392 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: Bowl or anywhere near it. And I know, Jason, come on, 393 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: Jimmy g didn't lead them to the super Bowl. Listen, man, 394 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how you differentiate led to the Super 395 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: Bowl versus was on her team that went to the 396 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But bottom line, Garoppolo was a good quarterback. 397 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: I can make fun of eight pass attempts in the 398 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: n S Title Game. All I want, still a good quarterback, 399 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: you have to deliver. And I just I I still 400 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: so stunned that you would go with a guy like 401 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: Trey Lance when you have Justin Fields, who, as you said, 402 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: Rob Robins, would who told me that, like he uh 403 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: won Mr Football in Georgia over Trevor Lawrence. Then he 404 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: goes to Georgia, doesn't win the starting job against the 405 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: veteran is playing mop up dude, He says, you know what, 406 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: I think, I'm gonna transfer to Ohio State where I 407 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: can start. After Haskins goes to the NFL and oh yeah, 408 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: he throws like forty forty one touchdowns and one one 409 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: interception and then the next year is great six tds 410 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: against Clemson and then goes to the National Title Game 411 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: and they never had a chance. But I don't know, Rob, 412 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: I I again, I sound like I'm bashing Tray Lance, 413 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: but that's not the case. I just can't get by 414 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: the fact that they don't love Justin Fields. Yeah, and 415 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: I agree with you. And it's funny because I I 416 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: really believe and I'm not saying this is sourced. I 417 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: don't know anyone who has said this verbatim, but it 418 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: feels to me like a lot of NFL decision makers 419 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: are holding the Dwayne Haskins situation against Justin Fields. They're like, well, 420 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: look how poorly this guy transition to the NFL. They 421 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: run the exact same offense, they put up similar stats 422 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: in college. Why wouldn't Justin Fields be the same kind 423 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: of guy. Maybe he's not as good as we think, 424 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: but if that is your rationale, why would you not 425 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: then apply the Carson Wentz flame out mount down, whatever 426 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: you want to call it in Philly to Trey Lance? 427 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: Why does he get the benefit of the doubt that 428 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: Justin Fields is not getting? Understand? I mean, your your 429 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: spot on, I agree, But Rob, here's my other thing 430 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: with that. It's like, how many factors go into Carson 431 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: Wentz melting down? I mean, remember he had Frank Reich 432 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: his first two years, Frank Creig leaves and I forget 433 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: what the exact numbers are, but he's like eleven and 434 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: twenty or some bad, bad, bad, bad bad win loss 435 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: record without Frank Reik. So now Carson Wentz is gonna 436 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: Resurrector's career where with Frank Craik in Indy. So that's 437 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: why some people are optimistic about that. But at the 438 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: same time, it's like, I mean, Haskins has like no chance. 439 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: I don't think in the NFL. He's on Pittsburgh's team 440 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: right now, that doesn't mean he's gonna I don't think 441 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: he's a lock to make the roster. I mean he's 442 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: probably gonna be inactive if he does, because that's not 443 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: a guy you can really count on. I think they 444 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: were trying to throw him a bone and Salvage's career, 445 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: but he was He was only a one year starter 446 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: at the House State Field, two year starter and and 447 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: played in the SEC. Didn't start because the starter was healthy, 448 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: but justin Fields played in the SEC um. I guess 449 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: we should probably turn our attention to mac Jones. I 450 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: just have a hard problem talking about him, dating back 451 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: to our convo last week with the former Jet scout 452 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: who was like, yeah, I prefer Mac Jones to Trevor Lawrence. 453 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: And I will say, Rob, I don't know if you 454 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: saw the social media activity, but the people the masses 455 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: were very, very very unhappy with Daniel Kett and his 456 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: comment's about Mac Jones over Trevor Lawrence. And I can't. 457 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: I can't. I'm sorry, I can't take mac Jones very seriously, 458 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: I just can't. One year starter on a stacked team 459 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: against a vastly, vastly depressed SEC. It was not very 460 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: good last year outside Obama l s U was awful. 461 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: It was basically Alabama and everyone else And Mac Jones 462 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: puts up monster stats. Um, this is a guy who 463 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: could not win a starting job against Uh, Jalen Hurts, 464 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: He couldn't win a starting job against Twah And oh, 465 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: by the way, how is twa looked in the NFL? 466 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, Jalen Hurts is getting a 467 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: one year look see from the Eagles. Um, Like, if 468 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: you're applying that rationale of Haskins two fields, doesn't the 469 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: same kind of apply to Alabama quarterbacks? Rob I think 470 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: Charles Robinson mentioned it, like, this is the Sarkaesian offense. 471 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: Did you see twas uh the look on his eyes 472 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: when he stepped to the line of scrimmage, He looked 473 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: like a deer in headlights? Did he not? Oh? Yeah, 474 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: and this might be my favorite state. I know. I 475 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: got a lot of stats that will just blow your mind. 476 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: This is my favorite one that came out comparing the 477 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: fields Mac Jones situation, r p o s and screens, 478 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: which in college are all the rage. You can't really 479 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: get away with too much in the NFL because the 480 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: guys are too fast. You know, you might get an 481 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: r p O here and there, but not definitely not 482 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: to the levels you see in college. Twenty two point 483 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: five percent of mac jones total passing yards came from 484 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: RPOs and screens, justin fields. Who plays at Ohio State, 485 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: which everybody says runs a gimmick offense? Eight point five? 486 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: So tell me again, who's really making plays as a quarterback? 487 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: If you're gonna look at that's that alone? M hmm. Interesting. 488 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't understand the mac Jones hype. Rob. 489 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: We're talking about a guy who essentially went from he's 490 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: not a first rounder too, Okay, maybe he's a first 491 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: rounder too, Yeah, San France three, Kyle Shanahan, let's get him, 492 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: and I love the stuff about people are saying in 493 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: these meeting rooms. He was on a white board and 494 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: he could remember plays that that he had drawn up 495 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: like weeks before. Uh, and they were just blown away 496 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: by his memory. Like what's memory gonna get you at 497 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage when defensive are breathing down your 498 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: neck and Von Miller and Bradley Chubb are closing in 499 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: on you. What he doesn't have the athletic ability to 500 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: get away, Like, I don't know, I don't want to. 501 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: I sound I feel bad rob at my bashing these guys. No, 502 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: and and let's be honest, Mac Jones has what two 503 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: d u I s? And he threw to four first 504 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: round ride receivers and and and hand the ball off 505 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: to a first round running back who was protected by 506 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: I think at least one first round offensive lineman. So no, 507 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't think you are being too harsh on Mac Jones. 508 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 509 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 510 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 511 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: search f s R to listen live. So let me 512 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: ask your your raiders. Could could could be in the 513 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: mix for a quarterback. I don't think Fields falls that far. Um, 514 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't think Mac Jones falls that far. But if 515 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: we go one to three and Trey Lances third. I 516 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: don't know what where where Mac Jones in, uh, just 517 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: the fields going? Are your Raiders in the mix? Well, 518 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: let me just say Ian Rappable, who got this whole 519 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: conversation started with his tweet last night, did also tweet 520 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: late on Friday that the Raiders, despite picking number seventeen, 521 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: are doing their homework on these quarterbacks just in case 522 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: one of them starts to slide, they can move up 523 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: and get him. And I actually tweeted out as soon 524 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: as I saw that mac jones trede last report that 525 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: he put out last night, I said, Hey, at this rate, 526 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: justin fields is gonna fall to the Raiders to be 527 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: set for life. It's gonna be great. Let me ask 528 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: you quickly on the Raiders. So they didn't they lose 529 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: like three or starting offensive lineman? Correct? Okay, and they're 530 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: gonna draft a quarter and they're gonna have taken quarterback. Hey, man, 531 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: if you know anything about the NFL, was you know 532 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: a lot the best way to build a Super Bowl 533 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: contender is with a quarterback on his rickey deal. Yeah, 534 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: now that's a fair point. I mean, so what do 535 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: you do with Derek Carr? You can't. I mean, isn't 536 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: the capit for him significant? I would assume no. I 537 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: think it's like two million. It's really low. He's basically 538 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: on a year to year basis right now, is guaranteed 539 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: forgive my memory laps um. Is Marcus Mariotta still there? Yes, 540 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: he took a massive pay cut to remain as the backup. 541 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 1: So if they drafted a quarterback, they would dump one 542 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: of those guys. Presumably. I would assume that they could 543 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: trade Derek Carr. I don't know where you could get 544 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: him too. I guess what, maybe Chicago, Washington, something like that, 545 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: you know. But the thing is, whoever takes him, it's 546 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to take the full salary cap hit because 547 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: there is no more guaranteed money. It's just that's the amount. 548 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: Because you never want to cut a guy, especially a 549 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: quarterback like Derek Carr, who say, what you want is 550 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: at least the top half of the NFL quarterback Um, 551 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: you know that feels like, uh, you know, a summer breakdown. 552 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's a lock. Top half of 553 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: the league, top sixteen. Yeah, all right, Trevor Lawrence or 554 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Oh, Trevor Lawrence Zach Will No, I can't 555 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: Derek Carr there yet? Can we do a few minutes 556 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: real quick? Rob on the return of Kadi Um. I 557 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: just I watched a little bit of it. Then I 558 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: watched the highlights and I was like, why was I 559 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: writing these? I was I writing the Nets off again? 560 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Kevin Durant against a good Son's team. Now 561 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: I know they were down Jake Crowder and Dario Serich 562 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: and now enter laughter for me mentioning two role players. Um, 563 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: but the Suns were passive at best defensively. The Brooklyn 564 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: Nets shot from the field from three eighty five from 565 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: the line and oh yeah, k d came off the 566 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: bench thirty three points on twenty one shots in twenty 567 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: eight minutes. I mean, listen, it's one thing going. I 568 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: know mcl bridges is a really good defender. This is 569 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: a bit of a step up in class to Kevin Durant, 570 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: who's like a top fifteen player in the history of 571 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: the sport. And Cameron Johnson no chance. So you know, 572 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: the Son's on the wing. And we talked about this, 573 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna have problems with Lebron. They would have some 574 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: problems with the Clippers with Paul George and Kauai. But Rob, 575 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean Kyrie deferring a little. He had thirty four 576 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: and twelve. They still don't have James Harden and they 577 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: beat I don't know what the second best team in 578 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: the West right now. I guess we're not going to 579 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: count the Lakers, uh right now. But they made it 580 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: look pretty easy. And like I know, we kind of 581 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: pooh poo the Blake Griffin signing as what's the big deal? 582 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: M who cares? He's old? He hadn't dunked in forever. Um, 583 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, just I'll just put it out there, Blake 584 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: Griffin not it hasn't been terrible since joining the Nets. Um. 585 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: You know. I know he's not shooting well from downtown 586 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,239 Speaker 1: this month, But I mean, all they're gonna need from 587 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: is one game, right, one playoff game where he goes 588 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: for fourteen and seven and a couple of big spots 589 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,239 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter if k D or Harden has 590 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: foul trouble or whatever, and Blake Griffin, that's all they need. 591 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. You never want to overreact to a 592 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: game on a Sunday in the at the end of 593 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: April in the NBA regular season, but I think clearly 594 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: the Nets they're back to being for me the team 595 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: to be just watching them with k D for a 596 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: little bit. In the East, I'll just say that in 597 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: the East they by the way, regained first place from 598 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: the Sixers over the weekend. Sixers, by the way, without 599 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons cratering absolute free fall, they've lost four straight. 600 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: And before Rob, before I let you get up the 601 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets, I just need to point out Fantasy NBA 602 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: is a total bunch of garbage and I'm so me 603 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: and my son are so irate. Okay, just a brief 604 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: thirty seconds. So you have to set your line up 605 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: for the week, and you have said it's Sunday before 606 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: the Monday games start Sunday. There was not a hint 607 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: that Ben Simmons or Demontis Sabonis were injured, not a 608 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: hint of it. Neither of them played all week. Now 609 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: Sabonis some back thing. Were they just tanking? Is they're 610 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: not gonna want to play off game? I don't know. 611 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: The Ben Simmons thing is extremely frustrating. He played last 612 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: week and was great, He was great, and now he 613 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: just misses the whole week. So the other f factor 614 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: Kevin Porter Jr. Who nobody cares about, was actually putting 615 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: up some buckets in Houston. I mean, he had some 616 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: big games, so we started. It turns out he was 617 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: one of the guys who went to the booby Trap 618 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: strip club in Miami. His teammate got his teeth kicked 619 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: in with a beer bottle. Apparently the story is Sterling 620 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: Brown leaving the booby Trap. That is really the name 621 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: of the strip club at I don't know, Rob, you 622 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: can correct me if I'm wrong seven am. And he 623 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: went to the wrong like suv or Limo or whatever 624 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: the bus was that they had rented, because you know, 625 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: that's how these bowlers do. There was like a lot 626 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: of the black limos, and he went to the wrong 627 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: one and the guys just came out and just started 628 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: beating the crap out of him, and I guess they 629 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: took a bottle to his head and he was severely hospitalized. 630 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: And then Kevin Porter walks out of the strip club 631 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, my dude is down. I gotta 632 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: go to offend him. So Kevin Porter all my son's 633 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: fantasy team all week health and safety protocols because of 634 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: a strip club incident. So we had three guys who 635 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: didn't play a freaking game all week and then we 636 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: end up losing to the fifth seed and we will 637 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: not be in the money. And um my son's taking 638 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: it well. As I said, he had a good weekend 639 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: playing sports, so it's going okay. But anyways, rob back 640 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: to the Brooklyn Nets unless you want to go deep 641 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: into the strip up story. The booby Trap a great name, 642 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: by the way. No, I'm actually more interested in in 643 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: your son, who I think is what like twelve, Oh 644 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: my gosh, he's being disappointed not in the money of 645 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: a fantasy basketball league. I'm pretty sure that they don't 646 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: think about it like that at that. Yeah, I don't know, 647 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: it's fifty bucks the third place team. That was more like, 648 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: you're upset that that he's not in the money and 649 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: was not not that big. I while you speak on 650 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: the net real quick, I'm gonna look up the Booby 651 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: Trap see if they have an Instagram page. Um just 652 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: give a shout out to the listeners and case well, 653 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: let me just say again, I did pick the Nets 654 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: even before the Harden trade to make the finals, so 655 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: I've always thought they were the favorite regardless. But um, 656 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: as far as what you said about them being the 657 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: easy favorites in the Eastern Conference after what you saw 658 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: on Sunday with Kevin Urratt returning, I would disagree a 659 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: little bit, only because I don't think they would be 660 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: prohibitive favorites without a healthy James Harden. I think James 661 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: Harden is the engine in that team. I think he's 662 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: the one who makes them go. Um. I would still 663 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: pick them even if if Harden was limited to come 664 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: out of the East, but I would not feel as 665 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: confident because I think what we've seen with Kyrie and 666 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant that yeah, they're great individual talents. They can score, 667 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: they can fill it up, but for that team to 668 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: get to its maximum potential, it requires a triggerman to 669 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: run point, and James Harden is ideal in that situation. 670 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: Uh well, I mean you can't officially make them the 671 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: favorites until Harden's back, but based on the little I 672 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: saw Sunday, it's like jeez. I mean, by the way, 673 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: Sixers fans don't come at me on the Graham or 674 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: social media saying they were without Danny Green, Seth Curry, 675 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: Mr Game. You you mentioned Jake Crowder, Yeah, you know 676 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: Jake Crowder on the wing kind of a big deal. Um, 677 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: I don't care what you say. The Sons have nobody 678 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: to guard Kevin Durant and Ben Simmons could probably guard Durant, 679 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: but then I don't know who's gonna check Harden and 680 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: Kyrie because those guys are getting to the bucket easily. 681 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: And don't give me Matisse bible. I'm sorry, Well, gee, 682 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: what about Joel embiid? I also like talking to myself 683 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: as I worked through these arguments. Fine, Joe and Bead 684 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: can have his thirty six points and fifteen rebounds, they're 685 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: not gonna win. I still think the real threat is Boston. 686 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: Um that their health is everything, and it's looking increasingly 687 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: like Boston is going to maybe be in the mix 688 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: for the four five seat. By the way, at some 689 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: point we're gonna have to talk about the Knicks, right, 690 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: I mean, rob they have won nine straight now it 691 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: is a little fugazi. The point differential is uh plus 692 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 1: two point two, which is lower than the Hawks, and um, 693 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: you know they're winning with defense and Julius Randall playing 694 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: like forty minutes a night. At some point we'll talk 695 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: to the talk about the Knicks. Maybe we'll get a 696 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: next guest on this week, so we'll do a little 697 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: more draft this week. UM, I can go ahead and 698 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: um close out the podcast with this The booby Trap 699 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: probably not worth the follow on the Graham, but it 700 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: is worth taking a peek. I'll just put that out there. 701 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: Um all right, rob Any final thoughts k D your weekend, 702 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: the Draft, the booby Trap. You are a married man. 703 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: You should not be on Instagram looking up the booby Trap. 704 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: It's just it's just a loox. Yeah, it sound like 705 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: I followed the account anyways. Al Right, guys, we'll talk 706 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:08,959 Speaker 1: to you tomorro