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Speaker 1: So the hit politics podcast Applying It Liberally is coming

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Speaker 1: hosts and friends of Lux Culture stas, Keisha Zolar and

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Speaker 1: Andrew Kimler are recapping and reviewing the first hundred days

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Speaker 1: of the Trump presidency. And it's going to be a party.

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Speaker 1: app Literally my grandma and your grandma listening bad? My grandma, Grandma.

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Speaker 1: in honey. But I have a problem. It's an overcast

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Speaker 1: day here, but listen to that. I say, what the fuck?

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, and I don't mean to have an

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Speaker 1: inane conversation about Ali versus New York. But in l

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Speaker 1: A you get an unobstructed light and it really does

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Speaker 1: change things. I mean, yeah, okay, So anyway, that's all.

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Speaker 1: That's my streams just for everyone that doesn't know. This

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Speaker 1: is day four of Bone and I being in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: like really literally living on top of each other, and

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Speaker 1: um Matt has made such progress. We were walking down

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Speaker 1: was like, man, I thought it was a house Griffith.

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Speaker 1: It's my second time here. The first time I was

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Speaker 1: on vacation with my family. We wanted a celebrity homes

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Speaker 1: toour and almost died chasing Adrian Grannier down the street.

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Speaker 1: the guy's like, there's Adrian Grenier and then we really

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Speaker 1: almost died trying to get a minute. Wasn't poetically? That

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Speaker 1: would have been so poetically. I would have loved that

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Speaker 1: to be to be the news. The news, you guys,

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Speaker 1: we have a resplendent guest. Oh baby, baby, baby, can

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Speaker 1: we talk about the credits. Let's talk about the credits

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Speaker 1: as he fucking sharts at his mouth into the mic,

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Speaker 1: so listen you can see him. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: this is actually brilliant five five five on vimeo. Honey,

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Speaker 1: It's not just a place where you watch people's acting

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Speaker 1: reels anymore. No, it is a full platform, honey, with

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Speaker 1: the fucking Queen Kate Burlette. This is really, it's really

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Speaker 1: really good. Seima not see him as Elliott on Search

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Speaker 1: Party on TBS, animals on HBO, honey. Um, And he

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Speaker 1: has a live show at the Satellite every second Tuesday

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Speaker 1: of the month, and he's going to be at the

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Speaker 1: Bellhouse in New York. He's returning to the old stomping

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Speaker 1: grounds June. Check him out. Then, guy, guys, welcome John Early, Hey, guys, Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: drawn podcast voice. Well, I really think I'm sitting here

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, this could be the podcast where I

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Speaker 1: learned to like try to let the the artifice of

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Speaker 1: it melt away. Yeah, No, this is that. Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: you're what you're saying at the moment, you're saying, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of artifice now no, no, no, okay, wait

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Speaker 1: wait wait wait what do I love artifice I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Mike's headphones because I've been on you know,

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Speaker 1: a million podcasts part of the part of the round it,

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Speaker 1: and I always I never really get to a place

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Speaker 1: of conversational ease. Yeah. Never, like it's impossible, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I'm immediately comforted by both of you guys. Really, really,

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Speaker 1: what do you know each other from? Back? Yeah? From that? Um.

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Speaker 1: I remember John. First time I ever heard about John

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Speaker 1: Here We Go Charles Charles Bitch. I didn't see it,

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Speaker 1: but I heard but no, but people were like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, John Early, John really really John Early, John Early.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, blip on my radar. And then,

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Speaker 1: of course, start your skin, guys, if you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: Start your Skin, it is truly like the seed crystal

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Speaker 1: of this whole thing of John's whole career. You must,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it still holds up so well, it does.

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Speaker 1: Just Google, Start your Skin. It's fantastic. Google. Also, if

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Speaker 1: you want to see me at my skinniest, sure, I mean,

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Speaker 1: The change in my physical activity from when I was

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Speaker 1: but like physically it hasn't really repercussed, but it will,

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Speaker 1: and I'm very aware of that. Well anyway, sorry, we

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Speaker 1: don't need to I immediately I always make it about weight. No,

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Speaker 1: within ten minutes, I'll make community and we should be talking.

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Speaker 1: Tell you it's not only a weight journey for me.

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Speaker 1: It's a jowl journey first and foremost. It's like when facially,

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Speaker 1: up the whole frame. Now that's just that's just an

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Speaker 1: But when it's a parallax effect, John, how are you emotionally?

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Speaker 1: What's your climate? What's your climate? I'm good, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm loving my little bungalow. Let me say, John moved

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Speaker 1: from a beautiful place Gregg told me was a beautiful

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Speaker 1: toughest part? We like, well, what set you off in

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Speaker 1: the in the sobbing? Sobbing was like, well, not the people,

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Speaker 1: was really just like I felt like, you know what

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Speaker 1: We were separated one night. This is how dependent I am.

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Speaker 1: in high school. It's very the kind of thing. This

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Speaker 1: This is a part of a state, okay, And you

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Speaker 1: got to drive around and maybe it's I don't think

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Speaker 1: good time now. But yeah, I was just anxious. Maybe

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Speaker 1: would watch it and like with my remote an inch

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00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: away from the TV, Like I was like my eyes

420
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: were this close to the screen in case they came

421
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: in just anything. Yeah, um no, but that's through that

422
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: kind of like I don't know what I think. I

423
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: was very much like trying to be older than I was,

424
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: and I was obsessed with like the idea of having

425
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: good taste and like and like surpassing my childish peers

426
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 1: and their like love of like zoog Disney, you know,

427
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: and so like I was very like annoyingly proud of

428
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: like Oh. I also my sister had a friend Jenna,

429
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: who was so funny and cool and gorgeous, and I'm

430
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: like I was. She was my older sister, and I

431
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: would always just try to impress her and make her laugh.

432
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: And then she was like I told her, I was like,

433
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: I love the movie Clock Watchers Tony Colette Good and

434
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: that movie was the start of like a lot for me.

435
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: And then she she started kind of like, oh, you

436
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: should see these like Bridget fund of movies and like

437
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: so there was kind of like in these Parker Posy movies,

438
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: like there's kind of like a nineties indie film like

439
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: with women in the Of course that was very important

440
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: to me. That was. But then also just like I

441
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: watched I Love Lucy constantly and and then I remember

442
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: like seeing the Spartan cheerleaders and being like oh my god,

443
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: I like and not knowing what SNL was was like

444
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: nine and me like who what is that? And my

445
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: parents explaining SNL to me, and then like going back,

446
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, watching the gera of SNL and like finding

447
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: the women of each generation and just becoming obsessed with

448
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: the women of SNL because for Spartans, I mean for me,

449
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: it was I'm sure this is what you're a loading to.

450
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: For me, it was all about Cherry. It was completely

451
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: all aboutout Cherry. I had like an autograph picture of her.

452
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: I was so obsessed with Sure, Terry. Yeah, Morning Latte

453
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: is like Morning lat is like the foundation of my

454
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: sense of humor. It's so funny. I yeah, will for

455
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: it could have been invisible. It was, but he's obviously,

456
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: but like it was about her absolutely, But also it

457
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: just feels like he's such a good scene partner too,

458
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: Like it's so cool that, like he is such a megastar.

459
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: But then you go back and watch SNL and he's

460
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: like such a good supporting player her on a gas

461
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: STARMI Shan and they're like so many little duo stuff

462
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: that he does where he like takes the back seat.

463
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: You forget that he's a straight man in Celebrity Jeopardy,

464
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Essentially, it's like that's like

465
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: one of the things he's known for and you would

466
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: never associate with, like you know, solid straight man, but

467
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: like he does that extremely well. So good, Yeah good.

468
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: I was going to say, what what emotions get stirred

469
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: up when I say the name Tony Collette, because you

470
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: I really like intense emotions. I really loved her so much,

471
00:25:54,760 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: and I mean, where do we begin. She there is

472
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: something about her that hits on like such like an

473
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: intrinsic level because I literally me, your solo show you

474
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: talk about make her proud, and that is like it

475
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: is gay totally because it's about dance. It ultimately tells

476
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: a queer narrative narrative. My I had a teacher in

477
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: college that was like, we have to talk about the

478
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: Six Cents and specifically this scene in the car and

479
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: Tony Collette got an Oscar nomination and just about like

480
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: that scene in general, like being actually what made six

481
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: Cents a great movie? So this well, he was like

482
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: an incredibly gay teacher. But so I was like, yeah,

483
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: this is very few. His name is Paul Selig. He

484
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: actually also was a psychic medium, dramatic writing instructor and

485
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: psychic medium. You can find him online. I recommend you

486
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: look him up. Um he literally speaks to them in

487
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: a tongue. It's it's that. But he was very into

488
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: Tony Collette to and loved that scene, and I was

489
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: very happy that. I was like me, maybe I did

490
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: make the right toys coming here, they're gonna tell me

491
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: this is right that I was attracted to this Yeah, yeah,

492
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: she just I don't know. It was really like it

493
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: was clock Watchers and Murial's wedding were the two that

494
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: really and um, there's just nothing. There's her performance. Murial's

495
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: wedding is so undeniably genius and like it's just so good.

496
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: I named my dog Muriel, you know, Like it was

497
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: like it was an intense I like I made her

498
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 1: a collage for her birthday that I never sent because

499
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, no, but I got so close.

500
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: I was like googling her managers and like, I mean,

501
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: well Altivista her managers, but like it was I like

502
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: made a collage with like pictures of her and like

503
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: paper magazine and then like and quotes of hers, like

504
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: why would anyone want to receive this? It was like

505
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 1: it was like quotes of Tony's and then and then

506
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: there were fun facts about me. It was like favorite food,

507
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: pasta favorite movie, Clock Watchers, Like I mean it was like, yeah,

508
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with her age like ten or eleven

509
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: the sweet Spot because I saw Clock Watchers because of Kudro,

510
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: because I was so obsessed with Michelle, and and then

511
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: I was like and then it really was like I

512
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: really felt a shift when I watched Clock Watchers. I

513
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: really was like, you know, I think you can at

514
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: some point over time, you can you can have like

515
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: a gradual like intellectual awakening where you go from childhood

516
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: to like not everything is good the moment, yeah, or

517
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: you can have like a very like sharp clean moment.

518
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: And I had like a fully clean like I was

519
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: like watching clock Watchers. I was like, why is this

520
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: affecting me so intensely? And I was like scream sobbing

521
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: watching it because it's so dark and it's really it's

522
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: really until and simple, but it is dark. I've never

523
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: seen it. You have to see it. Yeah, that's going

524
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: to top my list from me now. It's really it's

525
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: really beautiful and but anyway, but I was like, you know,

526
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: it's like four friends and their office temps, so they're like,

527
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, horribly mistreated, but they kind of become really

528
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: close friends despite that. But then like they're like, don't

529
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: I won't tell you, but whatever, I'm not gonna tell you.

530
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: Like a it sounds like a nice it's like a

531
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: real or nine to five? Is it very dramatic movie?

532
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: It's quietly dramatic. There's no histrionic, yes exactly, so you

533
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: know it's dark, um dark histrionic. But with those actresses,

534
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah, it's it's so it's so good. But yeah,

535
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just I so I think I

536
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: just forever associated Tony and she's the main character. And

537
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: she also kind of like becomes self actualized throughout the

538
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: course of the movie. But she becomes self actualized not

539
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: in some sort of like trophy movie, like she finally

540
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: follows her passion of singing, like she come self actions

541
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: because everything falls apart around her and it just like sucks.

542
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: But she's like, well, this is it, this is life,

543
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: and I just like yeah, So I like I think

544
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: I just felt like I owed Tony like my like

545
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: awakening and like yeah, and yeah, if it gets okay,

546
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: so reverse the situation of just imagine someone sending you

547
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: a collage of you and quotes and your quotes and

548
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: then they list off there is some little guy out

549
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: there that's putting it together. Okay, So then that would

550
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: so you would receive that positively totally, I know. But

551
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: I think I just was like so im embarrassed. So yeah,

552
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't know why was there was there a closet

553
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: I went into that and they definitely and I have

554
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: the webs I made a website for her, and like

555
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: I was so I was like telling my teachers about

556
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: the website. I was telling all my friends and I

557
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: realized I was gay, and I was like, oh, yeah,

558
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: this is why. I was like, there's a website. I like,

559
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: I literally like I'm out. Essentially, was that the moment.

560
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: Was there a moment where you visually remember like, oh,

561
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm gay. Well not because of the website. I just

562
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm there's like literal proof on the internet.

563
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: This is how far website. It's like there's no hiding

564
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: it now. And that's my own fault. I mean, I

565
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: remember getting asked like when like the first day of

566
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: school type questions like everyone put your favorite food, this, this,

567
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: this favorite actress, favorite whatever, favorite this I it was

568
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: probably two thousand and one. I was like, of course

569
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put in a Cole Kidman because Mulan Rouge

570
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: and the others and just the versatility, and but everyone

571
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: was like, well, who are you going to put down?

572
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, I can't. I knew it was

573
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: wrong to say Nicole. I ended up putting Tara Read,

574
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: and I walked around for quite a while saying Tara

575
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 1: Reader my favorite actress, and then I remember my Spanish

576
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: teacher turned to me one day. I was like, so, um,

577
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: Tara read like, what's what's this about? And I just

578
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: I just said, oh, I saw her on a website

579
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: and then she was like and I was like you

580
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: I just literally said like the straight thing that I

581
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: thought I was supposed to say, and it was gross.

582
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I should just fucking said Nicole Kidman.

583
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: I also used to lie and say I loved Limp Biscuit.

584
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: I was baptized by the bassist in Limp Biscuits father,

585
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry if you're listening. Yeah, but I kept

586
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: thinking to myself like I was like, thinking, back, did

587
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: anyone actually like likelymp Biscuit? I guess they must have

588
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: people definitely Likelympiscuit. Okay, okay, you're right. I also had

589
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: a babysitter that I thought was cool. It was kind

590
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 1: of like your sister's friend. Her name was Mickey. Her

591
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: name was Michelle, but everyone called him Mickey, So there

592
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: you go. And she loves Creed and so I bought

593
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: several Creed albums and then I still owned them years

594
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: later when it was like great, when they were like

595
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: a full punchline. Wow, sisters, I'm huge it's huge. Sisters

596
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: are huge, and just friends are huge, especially if they're older,

597
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: older teenage girls who are cool and funny and yeah,

598
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a thing and not to like bring

599
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: this into it, but like for for immigrants, like families,

600
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: older sisters who had essentially white friends who like were

601
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: tapped into that because that's that was like the funnel

602
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: for me was like, Okay, this is the source and

603
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: it's all coming down to like this very specific upbringing

604
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: I have, but anyway, um dying to know about that

605
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't. Well, it was just like, um, the first

606
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: time I ever heard about fucking like um like Mandy

607
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: Moore was like through like like it was like white friends,

608
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: white friends, like peripherally white female friends that I could

609
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: only that I could I could only befriend through my

610
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: sister and so that was it. So yeah, I mean

611
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: the paths are all different, you guys. Well the ideal

612
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: it's like my first Alicia Silverstone, it was like I

613
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: need to know everything? Can can someone explain everything? So

614
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: there is that? Yeah, I mean she's that's what I

615
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: wish would would just be everywhere still and what's the

616
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: movie she's going to be in coming up like it's like, oh,

617
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: she's like a mom diary. Yeah yeah, hell yeah. You

618
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: know there was a movie that came in a couple

619
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: of years ago with her and I think Kristin rittterd

620
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: that Amy Heckerling directed. It was called Vamps and christ

621
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: Johnson's in it. Yes, yes, I didn't see it. No,

622
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, I remember hearing that it was

623
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: going to be a thing, and then I was like, oh,

624
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: that'll be big because Amy Heckerling and Elisia silvastone. That

625
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: will be a big deal that they get back together.

626
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: And then I don't know. I guess whoever just decided

627
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: they weren't gonna just never became a story. And I

628
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: guess it just didn't get enough publicity for people to

629
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: come out and see it. So I feel like it

630
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: didn't even come out. Maybe it didn't. Maybe it went

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Speaker 1: straight to home video or straight straight to the web.

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Speaker 1: But wherever things go. Now, well, you know what, Alicia's fine,

633
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Speaker 1: Amy sine Alicia Isn't you know what? There's a new

634
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: movie with Anna has in Sandra, Oh yeah, with them

635
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: beating the ship out of each other. Did you see it?

636
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: Have you seen it? Have you seen it? I walked out. Really,

637
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: I was so excited. Yeah, yeah, it seems like it's

638
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: going to be great. It should have been. I love

639
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: those two actresses so much. Come on, it is written

640
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: by an idiot. Like it's just not It's like the

641
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: dialogue was horrendous. I could not believe it. The production

642
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: design like it was it's not just like it's low

643
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: bud yet like I could make it look so much

644
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: better unfolded like it was so I don't know, it

645
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: was very disappointing seeing like extremely good actresses have to

646
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: say such shitty lines and like I was like always

647
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: already I was so down for it to be like

648
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: not great. They just get to do something juicy and

649
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: like beat each other up. I didn't get that far

650
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: because I really had such a bad feeling about it.

651
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: Was it was it was offensive or was just bad

652
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: just bad. It was just bad. It was like it

653
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: was it was like it was very like it was

654
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: like it's like watching a Paul verhoevean thing, but like

655
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: with like less skill. It's like like like a director

656
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: who like and you do you hate each other but

657
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: you love each other, like you could just feel like

658
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: like a man, a straight man, like pitting women against

659
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: each other and and I just it was stupid. Well

660
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: that guy like that, the director, but he's apparently this

661
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: huge dirtbag. Yeah there was yeah, yeah, yeah, an Hash

662
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: and Sandra Oh, and the last time he was on

663
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: the show was plugging some other film where and he

664
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: just got shitfaced and like was belligerent and like trying

665
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,479
Speaker 1: to get in a fight with fucking with fucking Doug.

666
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Speaker 1: And then they and he got kicked out, and so

667
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: they came on again to promote this movie, the three

668
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: of them, and it ended up with the director and

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Speaker 1: Anne Hash getting kicked out again because it was such

670
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: and she was just being very um. She was really

671
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: I guess, on edge about the way he had been

672
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: treated last time, and that was kind of clear, and

673
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: she was very defensive from the beginning. I actually listened

674
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: to it and Sandra is kind of sitting there quietly

675
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: the whole time, kind of just behaving and there to

676
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: promote the movie and they had made such a spectacle.

677
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: The director gets kicked out almost immediately, and then a

678
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: Haitia's kind of just being just kind of being a jerk,

679
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: like trying to turn herself on and doing and she's

680
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: trying to do bits and stuff, but like, just she

681
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: fails catastrophically. Meanwhile, Sandrah is charming and great and nice

682
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: and like and they get kicked off and then they're like,

683
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm He's kind of like, so what's up? And she's like, look,

684
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Speaker 1: I just want to talk about the movie. I'm excited

685
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: about the movie. Let's just talk about it. And then

686
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: they had a great interview, just the two of them. Honestly,

687
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: it made me. It made me watch the trailer. I

688
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: hadn't heard about it before. You know what, you gotta

689
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: get out there and you gotta get that trailer on

690
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: people's screens. If it means fighting publicly on podcasts, so

691
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: we should start a fighting we shoulder fight on the

692
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: on the pod to promote wait are you shooting? Search

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Speaker 1: party in New York? And I'm coming right back. You're

694
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: coming right back. I set off the off the air

695
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: before we started. John is the Prodigals sone of New

696
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: York show. I'm so excited. Tickets on sale for a Bellhouse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah great, because of like today great, get your oh

698
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Speaker 1: as of today, which I don't know what today means

699
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Speaker 1: in podcast world. Well, you know they'll have been on

700
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: sale if you're listening, so get them now from you

701
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: never know what happens. Um. I love the show too.

702
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with Meredith. She's what's her story? Like, she's

703
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: like not a comedic actress before this, I mean like

704
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: what she's yeah know, she's like a proper actress, like

705
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: she is a North Carolina girl. But she did like

706
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: she did soap opera. She moved to New York at

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Speaker 1: like nineteen and was like I think maybe as the

708
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: world turns, I'm not sure one of them, but she

709
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: did a soap opera for really long time. She has

710
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: this an amazing story about like she got nominated for

711
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: a daytime atmy and she like she didn't know that

712
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: you could choose your clip like that they show when

713
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: they're announcement. I didn't know that either. So like they're

714
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: doing all the nominees and everyone's is like like super

715
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: like eyes full of tears, like really dramatic scenes, and

716
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: then like it got to hers and she literally was

717
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: just like she's like, mom, I want to have sex.

718
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: And she was like twenty four playing a like seventeen

719
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: year old anyway, but yeah, she's so she's really done,

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00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: Like she she's to like do musicals. I think audition

721
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: for music. She's like a proper like hit the Pavement

722
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: in New York actor girl, and like it's all worked

723
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: out because she really is she. I just can't wait

724
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: for people to cast her in like beautiful romantic comedies.

725
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: She can do so much more, but I just feel

726
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: like she is so magnetic and like Meg Ryan, Yeah, yeah,

727
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: she would excel in that. And we need in the media.

728
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Speaker 1: We need Meg. We do need type. If you think

729
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: about it, who is out there that's doing the romantic

730
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: comedies because I missed going to see its romance comedies.

731
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: I love a good solid romo. And then I guess

732
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: there was Katherine Heigel there for a few years, and

733
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: then that for whatever reason, didn't didn't pan out. But

734
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Speaker 1: now there's really didn't pan am and now there's like

735
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Speaker 1: the Sandra Bullock, Sandra Well, yeah, Sandra Bullock, not to

736
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Speaker 1: not too not too long ago, too long ago. I

737
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: think the proposal was long ago. Okay, you know what

738
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: was it like two thousand and six, and no, I

739
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: think I saw it when I was you know, it

740
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: was the same year as Blindside. I think it was

741
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: because she was and this is like I'm a little

742
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: bit of an awards gay. So she was nominated two

743
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: times in a year and a proposal and I think

744
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: the blind Side, and she walked away with the Globe

745
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: for the Best Actress in the Drama one, which also

746
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: now Oscar and Oscar actually, yes, you know, and I

747
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: will bravely say that that was Gabbaret, says Oscar. Absolutely,

748
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: of course you disagree, though I don't have an opinion.

749
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: That was like, that was a pretty boring best actress here.

750
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Speaker 1: That was Carrie Mulligan. Yeah, for an education? What wait?

751
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Who else? That was Gabbarette? Carrie Mulligan, Santra Bullock, Meryl

752
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: Streep for Julie and Julia I'm asleep, Okay, I know.

753
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: And then there was one more and I can not

754
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: possibly remember who it was. Can we guess it? Okay?

755
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: Imagine if Brett just turned around and knew it, I

756
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: would be like, okay, well, you're my fav Now. We

757
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: were talking about Feudre earlier and I was like, I

758
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: didn't know who had a Hopper was until this is

759
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: the Show's like I knew about Hannah and Luanne and

760
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: Luella Luella Pulla Parsons, and I was like original gossip

761
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: Diva's what drives me nuts is when you say that

762
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: they're allowed to pick their clip, because my least favorite

763
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: thing is when the hip show and they cut to

764
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: the actor and they make this face like, oh God,

765
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: can you believe how awful I am? Jesus, I'm so embarrassed.

766
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm hum I'm really a humble person. But it's worth

767
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: that's at least there than like, yeah, yeah, you're right,

768
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: listeners can't see that's doing a stoic. Just compute Melissa

769
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: Melissa well Tony. When Tony was nominated, her clip was

770
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: the car scene, but they didn't use any of the dialogue.

771
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: It was just her tearing up. So it is Hayley

772
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: Jolasma talking and she was like and then it cut

773
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: to her and she was with her parents and like

774
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: and she and she was like so embarrassed and and

775
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: and hilariously embarrassed. Who's being funny about it? But that

776
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: year I know that category so well because I was

777
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: her manager that so it was like it was her

778
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: in the sixth sense. Angela and Julie can you fill

779
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: it out? Can you give it? Was there? A? Joan Allen?

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00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: Was she nominated? Was that wrong? Let's let's see if

781
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: it gets there. I'm pretty sure I know. I don't

782
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: think it was John Allen. She may have been nominated

783
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: for the Contender. Wait wait, wait, was the Vanessa Redgrave

784
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: in there? Or lindd Grave? Okay, this is not a

785
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: year I know. I'll give you a couple more. Katherine

786
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: Keener being jumped out of it, which that nomination blows

787
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: my mind in the best way. Yeah, I love it.

788
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: It's it's she's so amazing, Samantha Morton sweet, and finally,

789
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's so incredible. The fifth one was

790
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: always seventy Boys Don't Cry. Okay, wow, that might be

791
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: my favorite category ever. That's Best Supporting. It was Best Actress,

792
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: which is always my best supporting Actresses. Where it's at

793
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: for me, I couldn't give a ship less about Best

794
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: Supporting Actor. One thing about this sl A trip that's

795
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: really like stuck to me. I was over at a

796
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: friend's house and there's just a bunch of fun little

797
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: ship is gays. The thing that they do is they

798
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: whip out the heads up on the phone and they

799
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: have a deck that's just Best Actress and Best Supporting

800
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: Actress winners. And I was just like out of my element.

801
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, and you know what, I've

802
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: accepted this on this trip and it's a beautiful part

803
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: of my journey. I was like, I'm never going to

804
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: be that. That's that's so fine. Okay, here we go.

805
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 1: Oh here in the last station. That's the which honestly,

806
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: like this podcast cares listen, I've been I have the DVD,

807
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: So the last Station, I've never seen it. What's it about?

808
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I was like I was

809
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: like with an old teacher from Minoia was like at

810
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: her apartment one time and then I was like I

811
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh, blast station, and she's like, do you

812
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: want to borrow it? And I literally just like was

813
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: so I cared about her opinion way too much now

814
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: because I absolutely didn't want to borrow. And I've had

815
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: it for now, like eight years. I've never seen I'm

816
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: scrolling through this now just looking at who's one, and

817
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: I guess they ordinarily get it right. I mean it

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Speaker 1: was it was Gaberet precious, Gaberete precious. I thought I seen.

819
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Speaker 1: My thing is it comes to Oscars. It's like, did

820
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: you give the performance that no one else could give?

821
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: It's like that's kind of my It's like, did you

822
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: put your individual unique stamp on this and that makes

823
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: it worthy of really raising up and saying everyone should

824
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: see this. And for me, like Gabbaret, I Precious, that

825
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: was like a very special thing. Sandra, you can cast

826
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Speaker 1: a thousand actresses in that part, and that's exactly that,

827
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: because all you really have to be is an actress

828
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Speaker 1: to do it. I mean, I'm not saying that Sandra

829
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: isn't amazing. I think she's fucking amazing. But you know,

830
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: sometimes like I get that it's an industry thing and

831
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Speaker 1: it's a show and it's entertainment. Well also just like politically,

832
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: like give it to Gabby, make a statement and with

833
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: that criterion of just if no one else can, if

834
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Speaker 1: you're the only person who could play this role, and

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00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying, if you left your individual stamp

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Speaker 1: on this role, I would say Gabby too, because who

837
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: else would have played Precious? That? I mean, and I

838
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: just there, well, first of all, there is no one

839
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Speaker 1: that we know and now, and she's actually had a

840
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Speaker 1: And the thing is, like I even thought last year,

842
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843
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844
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845
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846
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847
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848
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849
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Speaker 1: least for a publicist. That's happening. I'm sure that's how

850
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,799
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851
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,440
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852
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,560
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853
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854
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855
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,080
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856
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857
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: we're very close. We of course, um we briefly met

858
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,160
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859
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860
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861
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862
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,920
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863
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864
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865
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,279
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866
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867
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868
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869
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Speaker 1: and we're back with John Early. Oh Man, some huge

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Speaker 1: news just broke over the break, broke over the break. Um,

907
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: John just got the Rue Paul follow on Twitter. Okay, well, congratulations,

908
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: thank you, first of all, thank you, second of all,

909
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Speaker 1: spilled the t What was he like on set? John

910
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: and John and Rue share a moment on the season's

911
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: animals on HBO tell us everything. Well, um, it's it's

912
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Speaker 1: a live action episode of a typically animated series, and

913
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: it's nivat. Yes, it's very Um. The tone of this

914
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: is very like kind of like Scooby Doo like evil

915
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: scientists like and um and I and so RuPaul plays

916
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: this like evil scientists who's developing this like pill for civilization?

917
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: And I am I am his like assistant, like like

918
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: like nervous gay assistant who also might have some evil

919
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: motivations of his own. I feel like when you talk

920
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: about RuPaul, you always want you want him to be

921
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: like this like person on set giving out stage advice

922
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: and like really talking and was it that or was

923
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: he just like, oh yeah, that's a person like you. No,

924
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent the giving the stage of it.

925
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: They're like moments where like over here rubying like I'm

926
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: a medium and when I'm going to train in New

927
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: York City, I pick up people's energy and if someone

928
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: in pain, I feel that pain, you know, and he's

929
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: an EmPATH and uh, but no, but it was I

930
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: was so nervous. I mean, I'm typically very good around

931
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: my heroes, Like I'm good at just kind of being um,

932
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: very transparently a fan of them. Like I think it's

933
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: the better approach to be like, you know, I worship you,

934
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: rather than being like coy and yeah um and and yeah,

935
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: so I I was, but I was very nervous around him,

936
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: and like the first moment of shooting, I immediately, like

937
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: I did on this podcast, I immediately made it about

938
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: weight because I like, there's an issue with my costume

939
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: or something where like the wrong size suit was like

940
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: brought to set or something, and I was like, I

941
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: was like popping out, and I was like and it

942
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: just made me feel insecure. And then it's like the

943
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: first moment with RuPaul, I was like, oh, I just

944
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: its like vomiting out of me. I was. I was like, well,

945
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: first of all, I'm a cow. I was like. I

946
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: was like, you're a lagoon. I was like, you're a

947
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: string bean. And he goes, he goes, he goes, I

948
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: do not need your life story and like a shady

949
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: way or very funny. He was absolutely sensing that I

950
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: was just like talking out of my asks and it

951
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: was so stupid. But and so that was so that

952
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: was so hilarious and then like so then of course

953
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: I was like wildly intimidating, like John, please calm down.

954
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: And then and then you know, on a break or something,

955
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: he was like where you from? And I was like

956
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: Nashville And we started talking about country music. He knows

957
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: like every man drall sister, you know, like he's he's

958
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: so like it throws that reference out all the time. Yeah,

959
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: and uh so we talked about we talked about country

960
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: and then and then you know, he was like later

961
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: he was like, um now, what's like what's happening John?

962
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: Is it happening for you? Like are you like are

963
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: you auditioning or whatever. And I was I was like,

964
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. Ru Paul I was

965
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: like it's happening. Yeah. Like I was like, I'm not

966
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. I was like, I was like, it

967
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: is popping and uh and and he and he loved that.

968
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: He was like that, so that was good. That's that

969
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: was when I kind of broke through. And then you know,

970
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: and then we spent two days together like shooting the

971
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: stuff and and it was very Oh. Then he was

972
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: like at one point, he's like, what's your favorite movie?

973
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, God, like it's just such

974
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 1: a dream to be talking about movies at all with Paul.

975
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: I was like, and I kind of got in my head.

976
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I don't know, it's like there

977
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: are so many. He's like, I do not need your

978
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: life story. And then he was like and then I

979
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: was like clock Watchers and then he was like cackling

980
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: by the fact that I liked Watchers um, and and

981
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: then we started so I started telling about Tony and

982
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: I did like we started talking about just like I

983
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I I see. I was like,

984
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: it's so funny to me when people talk about their influences.

985
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: Like when I think about like actors talking about their influence,

986
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: it's always like al Pacino, you know, and like but

987
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: it's literally it's like Tony Collette and like about a boy.

988
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: It's like it's like, look, meaning, I'm doing moment for

989
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: a moment Tony in certain things, like I can feel

990
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: myself physically like just facially doing Tony, like that's what

991
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: I associate with, like dramatic scenes or something. And because

992
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: she's like all I've really exposed myself to like dramatically

993
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: because everything else is like I'm obsessed with comedians, you know.

994
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: So and he was like, he was, I see Tony

995
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: and what youre do? I see that? And then I

996
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: was like and then he was like, I'm doing purely

997
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: Faye today. And we start talking about you know, and

998
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: we talked about what he's doing on drag Race like

999
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: reference wise and like it was just really fun. And

1000
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, we were talking about like people,

1001
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, like it's so fun to like diagnose whose

1002
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: people's influences are. He was like, you know what Shair

1003
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: is doing And I was like, oh, and he's like Elvis.

1004
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: I was like, it's so genius. That's so true. So

1005
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: we had we had a lot of fun kind of

1006
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: doing like reference lineage together, and then we were talking

1007
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: about Fade. I was talking about this interview that with

1008
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: Fate Dunaway where she's like on a bad and it's

1009
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: like in Ken it's like probably the early eighties ly seventies,

1010
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: and she's like she's smoking a cigarette, like a tender interview,

1011
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: and she's like she keeps trying to prove that she

1012
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: knows French because because the interviewer is French, so she'll

1013
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: say things like um, she's like sorry, sorry, can you

1014
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: close the door? And like and there's one part where

1015
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: she says literally just avec, which is with She's like

1016
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: she's like, um, like, I mean, I don't even know

1017
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: what the sentences, but she's like I did this one

1018
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: movie with um. She literally says with other with yeahah

1019
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: yeah with thin. It's so genius. But I was telling

1020
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: Rue about that and he was like dying and then

1021
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, I have to get him

1022
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: that link, you know, and then um you know. And

1023
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: then and then when it was over, like he was

1024
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: walked by when I was leaving, he was like he

1025
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: was like John he's like forty ft away. He was like,

1026
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: email me at like and we'll get lunch New York City.

1027
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: And then and by the way, that email doesn't work.

1028
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said that, but because I did, I

1029
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: went and I sent the email last I said the email,

1030
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I should weep it out, thank you.

1031
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: But I emailed the email with the fadaway LINKO. Such

1032
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: a dream working with you, like true hero and you know,

1033
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: and and then immediately bounced back. But I do I

1034
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: don't think it was intentional. Obviously, I think he I

1035
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: think he was being very generous and very Sweden. But

1036
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: but it is funny. I just don't know the proper email. Well, hey,

1037
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: but no, you really just connected with him though, despite whatever,

1038
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: despite that email situation. Oh my god, that's I love

1039
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: hearing that he's a great guy because I feel like

1040
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: so often now as as you know friends and like

1041
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: you know, you just get to know people in the

1042
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: industry more, it's so often so disappointing, and for someone

1043
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: like RuPaul that would be really crushing. Yeah, oh yeah,

1044
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: that would be too much. He was so he's very powerful,

1045
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: like like and he also he was on like a

1046
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: a set with like a lot of like people were

1047
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: really being respectful of him, and like they knew that

1048
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: this was like a big day that they were going

1049
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: to work with Paul, you know, but it still was

1050
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: like it's a pretty straight show, Like it's like a

1051
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: comedy like hetero show. So there was something interesting about

1052
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: like RuPaul in that environment, like where I was like

1053
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: do people fully understand like how special this is because

1054
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: you know so many people I don't think people always

1055
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: refer if people think like gay culture is low culture,

1056
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: and so it's like it's it's like this is a

1057
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: person that's entirely an icon in a real way, like

1058
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: you're an icon, like the like the way the way

1059
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: you throw it around, Like that's he's the real legend

1060
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: yea and very intelligent and like has through just like

1061
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: decades of being a public figure, has a kind of

1062
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: developed a philosophy you know that it's like very helpful

1063
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: to people. Yeah, anyway, but it was it was interesting.

1064
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: He's very powerful and intimidating, but like he's also very

1065
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: like he was extremely curious and like we just talked

1066
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: a lot, Like it was so nice that he was

1067
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: like willing to in like the downtime, like the fact

1068
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: that he was like just totally down to like dissect

1069
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: faten away. You know, it's like it's so on the nose.

1070
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: But it was so fun. But also, like I forgot

1071
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: to tell you this. The when we would have like

1072
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: long breaks and we'd go back into holding, he had

1073
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: his own We were like shooting in this weird like

1074
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: space like a studio where like they do like procedurals,

1075
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, we're holding was in a fake

1076
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: courtroom and he had his own like his own little

1077
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: dressing room that was like a judge's office or something.

1078
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: And he but because it's a studio, there's no ceiling,

1079
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: so you can hear everything like that's going on in

1080
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: the other rooms. And on every single break he watches

1081
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: the Golden Girls. That is perfect. Yeah, well and end

1082
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: I've heard anecdotes about it being Judge Judy on on

1083
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: some days, being Golden Girls on other days. And now

1084
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: I think he's on this dirty rock kick. Oh that's

1085
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: what I'm on talking about talking about NonStop or you're

1086
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: just watching I'm I'm it's so deeply comforted. It's my

1087
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: go to. It's so good. I mean, I remember you

1088
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: posted Reliable, Remember you posted like a few months ago,

1089
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: just from the pilot episode when Jane just but just singing, yeah,

1090
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: my judge VP, I don't watch Veep. Yeah, yeah, I

1091
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: gotta do it. I are you up on this season

1092
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: of drag Race? No, I have watched the season. Well,

1093
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: speaking of drag Race and speaking of row Um, we've

1094
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: like it's been well documented on this podcast, like what

1095
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: are like what room means to us? Like this is

1096
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: sort of a broad question, but like just what is

1097
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: rooming to you? Like with your I guess like upbring

1098
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: just because like we've talked a lot about ruse philosophies

1099
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: remaining consistent over years you can really release you, Yeah,

1100
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, for example, like and stuff that

1101
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: I do. I feel like this is bizarre, but a

1102
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: lot of people agree with me about this. It's like

1103
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: they kind of like don't give a funk, like truly

1104
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: don't take your life too seriously. There's something about when

1105
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: RuPaul said it and just all these mantras that I

1106
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: was given. It's this is like insane, But we talked

1107
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: about this in Nicole Sufferberg. It's the closest I've felt

1108
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: to ever like feeling like I had like not a religion,

1109
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: but something to go by, whereas like there are things

1110
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: I can say and like remember that remember when you

1111
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, like like be a light

1112
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: and he says all the time, So like yeah, I

1113
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: mean I feel like and he that can really set

1114
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: you free in your work too, like in the way

1115
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: you're performing the way right, do you feel like? I

1116
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: guess the question is do you feel that way about RuPaul?

1117
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: Like has RuPaul like guided you in some way? Yeah?

1118
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: In some ways? Like I mean, well, when I was little,

1119
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: I was so one of to go back to the

1120
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: literal very first question of the podcast, like the Brady

1121
01:00:55,600 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: Bunch was so important and and him his seen as

1122
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: Miss Cummings the therapist and with Jan was like so monumental,

1123
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, something is happening here that's like

1124
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: very deeply smart and like satirical, but there's also a

1125
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: real sweetness to it, because it's like the way that

1126
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: that movie position Jan as like a gay icon, and

1127
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: she is like the heart of that movie. She's like

1128
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: like the climax of the movie is her running away

1129
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: and there the whole family like going to get her

1130
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: and like and there's all that stuff, but it's the

1131
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 1: New jam Brady and her putting on like the Afro

1132
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: way and then like on the streets of l A,

1133
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: Like it's just I don't know that was that was.

1134
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: And there's something about RuPaul being the guidance Counselor that

1135
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just so like divinely placed. It's

1136
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: like it's very special and sweet. And so I was

1137
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: always in love with that scene and always like transfixed

1138
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: about RuPaul was obsessed with you know, supermodel and whatever.

1139
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: Um and then and I loved her VH one talk show. Yeah,

1140
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: it was just such a nice moment in the sequel

1141
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: of Brady Budge too, when they run into her at

1142
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: the pool and her two daughters are theresha just that

1143
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: she had daughters, Like, it's so great also for RuPaul

1144
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: to be the guidance counselor and now she truly is

1145
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: the guidance counselor and like mother so many people Um.

1146
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: John mentioned, uh, just over the break that you guys

1147
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: shot that for the Animal for Animals two days before

1148
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: the election, so then you just blocked that out for me, Yeah,

1149
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: it just literally disappeared. And then in the past couple

1150
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: of weeks when I was like, oh, it's coming out.

1151
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: It's like that was very special. It was a nice

1152
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: couple of days. Um, but yeah, when we felt so confident. Yeah,

1153
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: just thank me for you said something before that that

1154
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: actually I didn't realize about myself too. But when people

1155
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: ask about comedic influences, I can very rarely really articulate

1156
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: what they are. But I can name like dramatic influence.

1157
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: Says that affected me comedically, Like that's very much a

1158
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: thing I think maybe for a lot of a lot

1159
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: of gays. Yeah, totally, that's just that's very real and

1160
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that. But when you can pull from

1161
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: Tony and like your comedy, absolutely, But when you say

1162
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: that you can't name a specific comedic influence, is that

1163
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: because it's like it just maybe honestly, maybe it's a

1164
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: thing of being truly because when I was having them,

1165
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, I was so aware

1166
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: that they were gay and needed to keep them a secret.

1167
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't just say like, oh, Sandra Bernhard and

1168
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: all her albums, you know what I mean. That wasn't

1169
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: something I could just toss out. I was like, oh

1170
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: that everyone's saying the Simpsons, Okay, cool, the Simpsons I

1171
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: never watched The Simpsons. I recently saw Sandra Bernhard on

1172
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: it on the subway, and I had the moment where

1173
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: I was like, am I gonna tell her what she

1174
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: means to me? I was like, she doesn't want to

1175
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: be bothered. I don't think it's it's hard to do it.

1176
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: I didn't because maybe if it was a situation where

1177
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: I was working with them, um, I would tell people

1178
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: what they meant to me or something, and UM no,

1179
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: that's that's fair. Yeah, And the thing is like, but

1180
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: also I did something with Jerry Seinfeld years ago and

1181
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: it was more about like, remember it was comedians and

1182
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: cars getting coffee. I was on one of Tiny I

1183
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: was on two episodes of it, and I was playing

1184
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: with this is It was so insane. It was Jerry

1185
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: and Creamer. It was Michael Richards and Jerry Seine and

1186
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: I was like playing the assistant and I was like

1187
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: watching them go back and forth and I'm like, this

1188
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: right here is like something else. And then at the

1189
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: end it just kind of came out of my mouth.

1190
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, my parents will kill me

1191
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: if I don't get a picture. And I didn't mean

1192
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: to say, but that's genuinely what it is. That was

1193
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: like remember being five years old and like listening to

1194
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: like from the next room, like hearing my parents laugh

1195
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: at that and whenever. And then really I had I

1196
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: didn't work with I was very intimidated by him, I

1197
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: think because he felt like another generation. And then I

1198
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: did a very short thing with Lena Dunham and it

1199
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: was like very a casual and I was like, see this.

1200
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because she was closer to my age. But

1201
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like the need of like I need

1202
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: to be very nervous or anything like that. Maybe that's

1203
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: just getting older. Jerry didn't shake your hand. He didn't

1204
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: shake my hand. Yeah, did you? I was out fully.

1205
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, he actually cast me. So he

1206
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: was in the casting room and then he offered his hand. No,

1207
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: I offered my hand. I was like, thank you so much,

1208
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: and he was like, I don't really, I'm a little

1209
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm sick. It was just as if

1210
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: he was making an excuse, and I was like, oh,

1211
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: that's fine, Like this is my writing partner. Went to

1212
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: shake his hand, same, I don't. I was like, really,

1213
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: neither of you going to shake my hands. I was

1214
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: like okay. It just it just felt like, okay, cool, great,

1215
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: these people don't shake hands. And then with Lena Dunham,

1216
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: it's like a hug and she's like, I'm a huge fan.

1217
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not, but like you know you're not.

1218
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: But it's speaking of you guys. Girls came to an

1219
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: end last night. We ran into John at a bar

1220
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, and then John was like,

1221
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: what's the theme for the appen and then I just

1222
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: I just girls, girls, and then you just laughed. You're like, yeah, whatever,

1223
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Girls though fun. It was. I didn't

1224
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: watch it. It was it was good. It was it

1225
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: was very I mean, I actually was pretty satisfied with

1226
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: the way that it ended. But I'm gonna love it

1227
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: anyway because I also know that a large part of

1228
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: it is like it's not going to satisfy everything. It's

1229
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: like with the end of every show, not every finale

1230
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: is going to be a big little eyes people universally perfect.

1231
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 1: I know. It's amazing how they did that. They really

1232
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: pulled it off. It's so satisfying. Were you loving it

1233
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: the whole time or whole Yeah, from the second start

1234
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: they were there were I mean, I was completely on board.

1235
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: There were things that like major red flags that like

1236
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: if they weren't within something that was so great, I

1237
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: would probably be upset about what do you think of

1238
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: the Greek chorus, like the like, well, that's exactly it.

1239
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: Like that's something that like I should have been so

1240
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: annoyed by, like Madeline, let's just say she didn't, you know,

1241
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: like but that, but I didn't care, Like I was

1242
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: totally on board for that. And then like like the

1243
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: lip sinking is absolutely unforgivable. It's not it's a horrible choice.

1244
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm it's a horrible choice. And Zoe Kravitz should not

1245
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: have sung that well or like as comfortable. It's like

1246
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: it would have been so much interesting if all three

1247
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: of them who are saying actually did it, I mean

1248
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: Zoe did it, the men did not. But if they

1249
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: had actually done I'm not saying this was their choice,

1250
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: by the way, because I know Adam Scott's listening. He's

1251
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 1: obsessed with me. But like, but those people, like the

1252
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: fact that they who were the people they hired to

1253
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: sing for the men, because that was humiliating an HBO

1254
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: should be a changed of themselves. It was weird. Also,

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01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: like it's I did read the novel and it's a

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01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: full departure from the novel they called it trivia and

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01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: in the show all year, and the fact that then

1258
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: they were all working on their elvis impressions and we're

1259
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 1: going to perform, I was like, is this a joke

1260
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 1: that the show is making it? Really? And but in

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01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: the book they literally do a trivia night, oh with

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01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: trivia with trivia, and they talk about how, you know,

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01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: we should Jane's really good at trivia, We're lucky she's

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01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: on our team. And Perry apparently is good in trivia

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01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: in the book. But then in the show they call

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01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: it Trivia Night all all series. And then there's like

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01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: these weird performances which do not happen in the book

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01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: and don't need to happen in the show, which makes

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01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: me think was it a thing where it was just

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01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: specifically to showcase soe Kravitz singing interesting. I mean, I

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01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: liked the idea of like seeing parents out of their

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01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: comfort zones performing, but like that, then the second they

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01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: started singing, they completely abandoned that because their voices were

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01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: like uniformly beautiful, and we're like the voices of someone

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01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 1: who's been singing on the road for thirty five years,

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01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: Like what like you could have had? You could have

1277
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: either had Adam Scott and what's his face? Who cares? Yeah?

1278
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean I love Adam, but that an other guys

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01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 1: slow down? He talked so fast every scene. I was like,

1280
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's saying. Oh wow, I didn't

1281
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: even fat. Also might be an accent thing. I think

1282
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: he might not be in an American Were you have

1283
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 1: a problem with honey and were you hearing Nicole's Australian accent?

1284
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: Because yeah, but you always do a little bit. Okay,

1285
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: she doesn't. I'd rather do I'd rather she also had

1286
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: slipp during those dramatic things, and especially in the car

1287
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: scene and finale. I'd rather have what Nicole has than

1288
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: what Kate Winslet does, which is I'm American, right, I'm

1289
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: speaking in this way? Are ours and revolutionary? Wrote? It was?

1290
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 1: It was very it was very over the top, but yeah, Nicole,

1291
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: I could kind of hear the lilt, and I think

1292
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: when people were like, oh yeah, the therapy scenes are

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01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: so relatable. My Australian accent always slips out when I'm

1294
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: in therapy. I literally know what tweet Hi Joel, Well

1295
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: it wasn't Joel, it was Joe Castle Baker. But Joe

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01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: probably did tweet about that. But I meant in my head,

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01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: I meant Joe, And yeah, honestly, yes, I did like

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01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: that tweet. It was. It was a good one. It

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01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: was a good one. But I, in my like gay

1300
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: impulse of like my eleven year old who feels like

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01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: he can't say Nicole Kim and Mulan Rouge, was like,

1302
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: what the fund are you talking about? She's perfect? But

1303
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: not at all. I stayed clear away from that one.

1304
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, No, what am I gonna do? Like

1305
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: Defendicle Kiman's honor on Phase Destroy your Friendship? Has been

1306
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: some annoying call out posts, haven't they of of late? Oh? Sure, sure, sure,

1307
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: some New York specific stuff. You don't have to worry

1308
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: about it, John, Yeah, things are different from me here

1309
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: in the garbage. I mean, there's there's a lot more sunlight,

1310
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot more happiness than her, a lot more interest,

1311
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 1: more interest and exercise. Can I just say that my

1312
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: favorite to me, the single funny is performance in Big

1313
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: Little Eyes was the therapist Robert Wiger because her, just

1314
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: like her absolute stillness. Yeah, Like the more than steaks rose,

1315
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: the more she was like elongated spine and like her

1316
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: head was like slightly turned and like it was like

1317
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: when she was like I wish your listeners could see

1318
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: me because you are doing It's like it's just she's

1319
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: like just find a place and like it's it's so funny,

1320
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: and it's like and you can see her morning of

1321
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: you can see her like with her husband being like

1322
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: it's Nicol to day. It's a Nicol day. Well, listen,

1323
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: she played a fucking uh statue in Angels in America

1324
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: and she was Calamity Jay and in Deadwood. All right,

1325
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: I saw well I went to her website. It's amazing.

1326
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: It's just like it's like it was designed by someone

1327
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: who went to like No Sea College of Art and

1328
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 1: Tennessee strange reference. But it's like it's like so it's tough.

1329
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 1: Oh wow, but it's yeah, it's just someone who's just

1330
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: like it's not her fault. It's just like the time

1331
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: of her being like, oh I should a manager is

1332
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: probably you should get a website, and it's like it's

1333
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: so funny. It's been left untouched since. Yeah, it's been

1334
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: untouched since like probably two thousand and eight. Her biggest

1335
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: credit is her like two episodes unlost. Was she unlost?

1336
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: She was? She's really like an actor's actor, Yeah she was.

1337
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: She's like a Sarah Paulson before Sarah Paulson became Sarah Paulson.

1338
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: She's going to get more work now for sure. Yeah.

1339
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: She's amazing. And that's all. The casting on the show

1340
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: was pretty great besides you know, yeah, I agree with you, Nathan,

1341
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: who cares, but but also kind of genius to like

1342
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: not care about the men, to like to make the

1343
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: men just like less interesting, And whether that be through

1344
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: the writing, through this or the casting, it's just like, yeah,

1345
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: it's it was absolutely just about like relishing in those women. Yeah,

1346
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: it was so good. I love that. Laura Dern for

1347
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: for the win, forever for the win. I was on board.

1348
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: I think the second Reese where this one started limping,

1349
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: it really didn't matter what else happened. I was like, Okay, yeah,

1350
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 1: this is this is it for me. She could be

1351
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 1: at anything and I'd be she was so great. She

1352
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: was so great, so great. John, what's next? Baby? What

1353
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: are you get going on? Um? What do I have? Well,

1354
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna go shoot some search party. I got some

1355
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: real fund stuff to do. I just heard about them.

1356
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I literally was like, I'm missing the

1357
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: table read Why no, no, it's tomorrow. Oh my god.

1358
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, um wow, no, I

1359
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: would see tap one of five apps? Great? But um yeah,

1360
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: Kate and I are working on a on a show

1361
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: together and I'm so excited about and I hope the

1362
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: world gets to see it. And it's just something that

1363
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: you're working on now, yes, okay, we're like we've written something.

1364
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 1: We're hoping we get to make it. So I really hope,

1365
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 1: I really hope it's I've never met her. I think

1366
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: she's so amazing. She's a star. She's a full star.

1367
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: Like I watched her in that show and I'm like

1368
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: the Academy Award. I know she's an Academy Award. The

1369
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: banana videos. Oh my god. How have we gone this

1370
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 1: long without saying I haven't talked about it? Should you

1371
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: should be so proud of you. D p all those, honey,

1372
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: I shoot them, honey, we can see them together. But

1373
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: it rests on her performance. Of course, I would retire

1374
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: on them. Okay, that would be from me. The cap

1375
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: in the gown. Can we ask this, like, how did

1376
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: the premises are? Do those organically? Well, it very organically

1377
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,799
Speaker 1: happened because we were in the Vancouver Airport, so stoned.

1378
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: We were on tour together and we were like and

1379
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: she she had a banana, and she just like she

1380
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: always we have a joke that we always do together

1381
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: where we just like we'll be talking and I'm like,

1382
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: oh sorry, and we'll just take a fake call. It's

1383
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: like it's like a good way, like if someone's talking

1384
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: about something that's like very sincere, it's just funny for

1385
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: us to be like so. And then we always like

1386
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: pretended to the other person's manager and always we're like

1387
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: we're like, yeah, I'm with her right now, and I'm

1388
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: like I'm like, oh god, okay, I'll tell her. And

1389
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: then she's like what is I'm like, I can't get

1390
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: into it. It's like it's like our favorite thing to do.

1391
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: And so she started doing that with the banana, and

1392
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: I was like I was laughing so hard and then

1393
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: you know, and so I just started like but people

1394
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: in the line, we're laughing. It was very sweet. And

1395
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: then and then we were I just shot her doing

1396
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: the one of like We're the first one where she's

1397
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: just kind of like you just said I love you,

1398
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: and it was just it was killing me. It was

1399
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,560
Speaker 1: so funny. And then once we did that one, we

1400
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,759
Speaker 1: were like, we should do we should just like follow

1401
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: the relationship. And the second one was the was the

1402
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: rose rose flowers and she just had she had those

1403
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: roses in the apart where she was staying and so

1404
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: like we'll use these and then and then it was

1405
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: more just about like trying. Once we did those were like,

1406
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: it's always just about doing that kind of like smalling

1407
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,959
Speaker 1: and it's like like like rom calm, yeah, like dramedy,

1408
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: like rom drum, like yeail you guys, nail it. I

1409
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 1: think my favorite moments of five five five are in

1410
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: a series of amazing moments. It's definitely you guys on

1411
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: the bed as the sectors. I think that's so much

1412
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 1: you getting the number wrong is it's pretty perfect. You

1413
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: don't get better than that. And also the scene where

1414
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 1: Kristin Johnson's like, yeah, just put it wherever the fuck

1415
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: you watch. I feel like I hear someone start to

1416
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: laugh in the back. We were laughing so much. I

1417
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: can't imagine being on set with her and especially doing

1418
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: that scene that you guys do where she gets on

1419
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: the floor in front of you guys watch five five.

1420
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm not gonna you know, I'm not gonna

1421
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: fucking ruin the whole thing. Please please watch ship, figure

1422
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: out episodes and then you know what, catch some acting

1423
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 1: reels while you're there. I actually have a great thing

1424
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: to show you, guys. Well not well, actually there's nowhere

1425
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 1: you're gonna find this because I don't know what it's called.

1426
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: But I'll figure out a way and then maybe you

1427
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: can tack it onto the episode. There's a real company

1428
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: r e L. There are real companies, I'm sure plural,

1429
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: but I found one on YouTube and it is a

1430
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: treasure trove where it's a real service where you they

1431
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 1: like provide the kind of generic scenes like a courtroom scene,

1432
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: like a quirky friends scene, a romantic scene, and they

1433
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 1: shoot like, we found it because Kate, now we're watching

1434
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: this girl that we know, we're watching her reel because

1435
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, late whatever, and and we were like what

1436
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: it was like so eerie, We couldn't figure out why,

1437
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 1: were like what the hell is and like and then

1438
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 1: we were like, oh, they've they literally haven't cut away

1439
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: from her. It's not cutting between two people. It's just

1440
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 1: one shot and there's like a shoulder in the frame

1441
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: to be like the other person. But it's like, it's

1442
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 1: clearly it's either a literal dummy or it's like an

1443
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: intern who's like yeah, We're like, it's clearly not an

1444
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: accurate Something just felt false about it. And then we

1445
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: realized every scene was that, like, there was never cutting

1446
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 1: to the other person. And then we looked at the

1447
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: the YouTube account that was making it and it was like,

1448
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: all these generic reels is the funniest in the world

1449
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: and it's on YouTube. Good. I think that's a new word.

1450
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: Warm hole. We can stembal on a couple. Well, we'll

1451
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 1: just we'll just do a wide net search of real

1452
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: coming and then we'll just shoot them over. You're right

1453
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: to confirm. Okay, Oh my god. M So, now this

1454
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: is it. This is where we've gone to the it's

1455
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: the moment. This is I don't think so, honey. We

1456
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: take one minute to rail against something in culture that's

1457
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: bothering us. Um. Matt John is alluded to his John

1458
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 1: is alluded to his previously, Matt, do you have anything.

1459
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't have anything. You know I have one. Okay, alright,

1460
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: I have one. All right, let's like, let's get one minute. Okay,

1461
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey. One

1462
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: minute on the clock. Time starts now. I don't think

1463
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 1: so honey cloth napkins at restaurants. I want a paper napkin.

1464
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 1: You don't know what I need. I might have to

1465
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 1: blow my nose and I don't feel comfortable blowing my

1466
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: nose in a cloth napkin. You want to know why,

1467
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: because I guess you're gonna reuse it. I mean, I

1468
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: would imagine if you're paying the money. I don't think

1469
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 1: so honey. What you know what, take the money, put

1470
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: him into something else, get better quality food. How about that?

1471
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: I want paper. I don't think so honey cloth. Also,

1472
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm sorry, bougie, just like, just dress

1473
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: it down, bring it back, bring it back to basics.

1474
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: You know what if you give me a cloth napkin

1475
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: and the just it's a plastic table, there's a disconnect there.

1476
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: I work in a restaurant. I'm industry, so I feel

1477
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: like I can give you this advice. Make it work,

1478
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: make everything match. If you're gonna charge me for a

1479
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 1: King crab leg I don't want to eat it on

1480
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: a paper plate. And then don't tell me this is

1481
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: casual fine dining, this is it's it's adver So I

1482
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: don't think so. I've had allergies while I've been here.

1483
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: The restaurants went the cloth napkins, and I didn't know

1484
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: what to do. I had to go in the bathroom

1485
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: for toilet paper. I don't think so. And that's one minute.

1486
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: Wow missive against the restaurant industry. Wow. Um, I agree,

1487
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: And that to me is culture because I've been very

1488
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: involved in the restaurant industry for about ten years, and

1489
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: you know what best practices. We're trying to get out.

1490
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: We're trying to. We're trying to get out very badly,

1491
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 1: but we're trying to. It's around the corner. We have

1492
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: our toes dipped into the tour guide industry. Okay, it's

1493
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 1: called the Ride. It's in New York. Okay, you've probably

1494
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 1: seen it. It's like a big sideways busy. So it

1495
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: was originated by Darcy Carden and Timothy Done. Yes. Um,

1496
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: and it's just evolved into this great thing now. It's

1497
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: like it's like they get a lot of UCB people

1498
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: to do it. It's like, yeah, they put two comedians

1499
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: on a bus and call of tour guides and they're like, oh, no,

1500
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: enough about the city that when you've lie by you

1501
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: can say like when when it was built or like

1502
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: some dates about and then just make a bunch of

1503
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: like jokes about it. And now I'm thinking, because I'm

1504
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: starting to get the point where I can't really do

1505
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: the waiting tables thing anymore. The other day, a woman

1506
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: has some quirk in her wine and she's like, I

1507
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: have some quirk amount wine and I was like, does

1508
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 1: it matter? And she was like, yes, I should have

1509
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: been fired. But hanging on um. But the thing is,

1510
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: I've now heard that the tour guide stuff, it's actually

1511
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: not that hard and it's pretty easy to get a

1512
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 1: license and you make great tips. So so we'll say,

1513
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll have to come to that, but you know,

1514
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: and then hopefully someone videotapes you on the tour exactly,

1515
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: you get a series, someone else you should ep tour

1516
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: guide series. I'd be honestly, I would be honored to

1517
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: put my name on it. I just know time wise,

1518
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: for me, it's not gonna really work. I can't kind

1519
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: of get my hands dirty in the way that exactly

1520
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: actually like within a creative process. But literally my name

1521
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 1: is which is really what matters. Right by the way, guys,

1522
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: it will have aired by now, but last week you'll

1523
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: have seen me on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Wow,

1524
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: I didn't do that. Oh serious, Yeah, it's gonna well,

1525
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: it's airing on. You know what, It's not bad five case,

1526
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: a few dinners recommended by me here there you know,

1527
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 1: five ks us hitting up Connie and Ted's again. There

1528
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: you go. I get that sea. You did it on

1529
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: a seafood place. Move on, can do taste change? Do

1530
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: taste taste Sushika Sushi Park is gonna be expensive one Okay,

1531
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to Sushi Park. You got to get

1532
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: a reservation. You're gonna docai. Do you know what that means?

1533
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: I just learned too, Sweetie talk to me when the

1534
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: chef just makes whatever is fresh. And I had to

1535
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 1: say I said no raw shellfish because I literally just spiritual.

1536
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: I was like, no, freaks me out. You might be

1537
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: fine with that. I'm good with it. Yeah. So, but like,

1538
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: but it was the best sushi I've ever had, hands down,

1539
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: And it's just and they and they know it's just

1540
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: so nice. Wow, wow, we're making Where's that? And where's chin?

1541
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: Your taste? Monterey Park is in and um sushi parks

1542
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: in West Hollywood. Fun, fun fun. We'll go, but you're

1543
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: not gonna where. I'm gonna leave with the list. You

1544
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yes, yes, yes, absolutely, I can't talk. Um. Okay,

1545
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: I think I'll go. Time for you, Okay, I think

1546
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 1: I have something. Yes, I'm good, all right, this is

1547
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, end time starts now, I

1548
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. Talkative lift drivers here. One guy

1549
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: yesterday was just like the browiest Broun was trying to

1550
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: talk to me about baseball and the Dodgers, and I

1551
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: was like, sir, I I'm so sorry, I'm listening to

1552
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: this new song. Please leave me be. But he kept

1553
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: pushing yah yah siel puig onto me, you guys pueek,

1554
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: And I knew, Now I know shit about this person,

1555
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,560
Speaker 1: and I don't want. I don't. I don't have the

1556
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: real estate in my brain to know anything about. Yes, yelp,

1557
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 1: he's the hot head of the Dodgers. About how he

1558
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: had a promising start when he was first picked and

1559
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: but now he you know, he's batting what like, he's

1560
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: batting seventy something. I don't know baseball. I don't know

1561
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 1: what these stats. I mean, I don't know what these

1562
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: metrics are. I don't think so, honey, do not push

1563
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: this hetero narrative onto my trip here. I don't think so, honey.

1564
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: Lift drivers who man, and I had to become a

1565
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 1: terrifying lift driver around right here. She was swerving and

1566
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: twirling and and just trying to plug her Stacy Renee,

1567
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: her her Airbnb substitute business. I don't think, so, honey,

1568
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: talkative lift drivers. And that's what's one listen coming soon

1569
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: to you in l A with Stacy Renee. She has

1570
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: got a name for it. It's gonna be um. Not

1571
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 1: only is it going to be an airb it's going

1572
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: to be a destination. She's gonna hang out with you

1573
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: the whole time, set up dinner, she'll serve you. She'll

1574
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: have activities for the kids back at the airbnb. She'll

1575
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 1: have jump ropes, she'll have um kiddie pool. She has

1576
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: it all planned out, but logistically not feasible. And she

1577
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: detailed all this as she was driving us wildly. I

1578
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: was like, this is crazy. It was. That's the thing

1579
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: about l A two is like you take a lot

1580
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: of lifts and you get who you get. You get

1581
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: who you get Today the guy goes, he goes, um,

1582
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: he's putting on the navigation, and it was it was

1583
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: like not agreeing with him, and he goes just like

1584
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,919
Speaker 1: all women, right, she doesn't listen, and Bone just goes Okay.

1585
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, what you did, you had you had

1586
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 1: likely and he was always proud and then he goes yeah.

1587
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: He immediately goes sorry, Yeah, so they're learning. Um, John,

1588
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: this is your moment. I can't wait for I can't

1589
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: wait for this. Oh my god, you don't have to lose.

1590
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be what you I think he

1591
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: has to. I think it's okay. It's written in bloods

1592
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: So we have the time in front of John. This

1593
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: is John Earl's I don't think so, honey, time starts now,

1594
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so Anna listen. And this is why

1595
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 1: I am by the way, as you know, RuPaul, just

1596
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: like it's like the Twitter. The Twitter cloud has increased

1597
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 1: so heavily in the past two years. I know that

1598
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: I am risking a lot by talking about this okay,

1599
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: but to me, it's worth it. You named your memoir

1600
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 1: scrappy little nobody, scrappy little noblement. No, no, no, no, okay,

1601
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm just I just don't know. I don't know really

1602
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: what else to say. But that's absolutely inexcusable. It's not okay,

1603
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: it's it's not okay. I don't You're not a scrap

1604
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: little nobody. If you're like, if your quote is like

1605
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: three million for a movie, you're not a scrap little nobody.

1606
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: If you have a house in the Hollywood Hills like

1607
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: I just and you're not a scrap little nobody if

1608
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 1: you have an engine singing voice, like I don't. Like

1609
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: that's no. I'm sorry I didn't say. But listen and listen,

1610
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: by the way, come at me, like defend yourself, like

1611
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: I know you're a longtime listener, but like I don't know, now, listen,

1612
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, No, Cinderella is a scrappy little nobody. Well,

1613
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: well I guess Cinderella is a scrappy little nobody. And

1614
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 1: who then, but you know, you get she was in

1615
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: the Stage Door movie, right or not? That like they can't,

1616
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: I can't, That's what I was. Sorry, Oh my god,

1617
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: no Oscar nominee is a scrappy little note, Thank you

1618
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: so much. That was it wasn't I don't know whatever.

1619
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 1: You know what it was. It was, it was measured,

1620
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 1: and it was it was correct, correct, and that's the

1621
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: most important. I guess I'm just scrap. You should name

1622
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: your autobiography that just because Jess jessaus and just get

1623
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: the season. Desist but ignore it. Some one time a

1624
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 1: guy said to me, He's like, I mean, I don't

1625
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: understand why we're giving Liam Michelle any parts when we

1626
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: have Anna Kendrick. I was like, first of all, that's there. So,

1627
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: by the way, I have zero opinion of her work.

1628
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: I actually don't know her as an actress. I just

1629
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: saw the book in an airport and I was like,

1630
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? Yeah, I think she's good.

1631
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I certainly liked Into the Woods. I liked

1632
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: it very much. I think the pitch perfect. I think

1633
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 1: pitch perfect is like the second one is fully It's

1634
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of Josh full trash, a lot of

1635
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 1: racism in them, oh god, lots of immigration jokes, which

1636
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: is what everybody loves. Wilson loves a racist joke. Yeah,

1637
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: you know mainstream. I don't know if it's her in

1638
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: the movie doing it, but I mean yeah, but it's like, no,

1639
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: it's not her, No it is her. It doesn't matter.

1640
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: It's just it's all racist. Now. Oh John, John is

1641
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 1: gonna gonna ryll that a stop. I can't wait. Rebel

1642
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: Wilson call us, come on defend um. Oh my god,

1643
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: you guys, this has been a great episode. Thank you

1644
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: so much, John Early, Bellhouse June. It's true. Get those texts,

1645
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: Jack lanvac Pam opening. Oh my god, um. I love

1646
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: you guys. Thank you for having me. Thank you. It's

1647
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: great to see you in this natural l a light.

1648
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: Thank you. Know, now that I've been here, I'm like,

1649
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: it's okay. Literally, let me curate your restaurant experience and

1650
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 1: then you're going to be so I can't wait for

1651
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 1: this and I will frame it toney. Guys, thanks for

1652
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 1: listening to Lost Cultures. Just that's Matt Rogers whereas I was,

1653
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 1: of course John Early, whereas bye. This has been a

1654
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 1: Forever Dog production executive produced by Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsay,

1655
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: and Brett Boum. For more podcasts, please visit Forever Dog

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01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:22,360
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