WEBVTT - That's So Scrubbing with Raven-Symoné and Miranda Pearman Maday 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:04.880 Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya red An iHeartRadio Podcast. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:12.120 Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in. 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:14.760 Yes, we are in our matching Stanley's. 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:19.200 Almost matching, same size, same size, but not the same color. Yeah, 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.800 but it's fine, Yeah, because we're scrubbing in exactly. And 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:23.720 we don't have just one special guest today. We have 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.360 two special guests and they happen to be a couple, 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:27.040 which we love. 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:28.040 We love a couple. 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.800 We love a couple. And one is an actor, a singer, 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:34.400 a producer, a director, and now a podcaster. She is 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.519 extremely passionate about issues concerning children and has been a 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.440 longtime supporter of the Make a Wish Foundation and continues 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:45.560 to support organizations and causes lifting up the LGBTQ plus community. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.800 Our other guests grew up around the entertainment industry. Early 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.559 in her professional career, she spent time as a writer's 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.600 assistant and developed this skill into the personal assistant world, 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:59.160 managing and overseeing the lives of multiple high level talent. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:03.000 This power was building a lifestyle brand that will inspire, educate, 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:06.960 and help others through thought provoking content and meaningful conversations. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.720 Please help us give a warm Welcome to Raven Simone 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:18.400 and Mirandom may Day. 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.600 How are you going? Wow, y'all, studio is so cute. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:23.200 Thank you. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:28.040 I'm taking full credit for it because I designed it, 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:28.600 so thank you. 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.240 Is this gonna be this is your setup that you're 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:32.680 gonna be doing your podcast from? 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:34.600 This is our podcast set up? 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:34.920 Yes? 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:36.559 WHOA? 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.400 Can we get right into the podcast and talk about 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:44.639 like where the idea came about? When did the idea 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.919 come about? And doing it together as a couple. 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:48.760 Yes. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:54.520 Idea kind of first started when we had our YouTube 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.040 channel and we had something called Tea Time and we 0:01:58.080 --> 0:01:59.520 would sit down and we'd. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.880 Pick a topic. We would just talk about that and drink. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.640 Tea or eat a meal whatever. And then the YouTube 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.400 channel started to fizz out. 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.000 Of our ether because it was a lot of work. 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.880 But I had always wanted to start a podcast and 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.200 it took me like two years to basically get to 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.360 a place where you know, I had tried and failed 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.440 and tried, and Raven was like, Okay, I'm down. 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:24.480 You've convinced me. 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:28.400 I'll do a podcast with you, but it has to 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.880 have some fun, unique twists to it. So we were like, 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.239 let's take the tea time. Idea, let's flip it on 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:36.040 sead a little bit and make it more random. 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.839 And here here we are. 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:42.000 Wait, so what's the what is the twist? I know 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.519 what the twist is, but for those who are listening, 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:45.840 what's the twist? 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:46.640 What's the twist? 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:46.840 Bag? 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:51.000 So what happened is, uh, we spin a wheel and 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.760 the wheel lands on a random word that my wife, 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.920 myself and our guest has no clue what that word is, 0:02:58.600 --> 0:02:59.520 and we. 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.880 Talk about it for however I long we want to 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:02.440 talk about. 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:06.600 It, Like, what have y'all y'all done? Y'all recorded episodes? Correct? 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:07.799 Yeah? 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.880 Can you give a hint? Or wait? So if the listener, 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.359 does the listener know what the word is or is 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.360 it kind of like they guess what the random word is? 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:16.320 No? 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:16.679 No, No. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.800 Basically what happens is we spin the wheel. You hear 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.160 this as a listener, you'll hear the sound effect of 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.720 the wheel. You'll hear a ding, and then we will 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.280 at that ding moment, we get the words sent to 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:33.359 us from our producer, and we know what the word 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.960 is and then we announce it. So, for example, we'd 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.440 be like, oh, the word is zebra, and then our 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.760 guest is like what, and we're like what, and then 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.320 we talk about Zebra's. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:45.320 That's really hard. 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.000 It's easy, Actually, no, it is. 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.000 I mean, like, sure, you have to be a little 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:59.360 bit more present maybe, but actually fun. And it's interesting 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.960 to see how a word like zebra, for example, you 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.080 would go okay, yeah, I used to have these. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.840 I used to have these pair of zebra boots. They 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.320 were made of pony and I used to wear them 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:10.800 all the time. The Red Carpets. I had to be 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:11.880 like fifteen years old. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.960 And when I I was like seven or eight years old, 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.280 I started going to the Wild Animal Kingdom and I 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.320 loved looking at the Zebras. The Zebras were literally my 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.000 favorite animals. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.200 And look at you in a black and white relationship right. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:29.920 Now, I'd say, very impressive. Was that very impressive? 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.719 Did you ever notice if the Zebras were next to 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:40.000 the cheetah girls taking it there? Thank you? 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.640 I didn't ever notice if I saw any cheetah girls 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.280 next to the Zebras, But I wasn't looking for the cheeta. 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:47.080 Girls, so I don't know. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.960 I am, oh, were you gonna? No? 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.400 I do want to talk about the dynamic of working 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.400 with your significant other because you guys have been together 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:55.440 for a minute. 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:59.120 Three years, well, married. 0:04:58.120 --> 0:04:59.479 For three years, but together for how long? 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.440 Oh? Was this a controversial topic? No? 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:08.160 I think twenty fifteen. 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.000 Yeah, but we weren't together from twenty fifteen till now 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:17.080 grow woh, okay, okay, like calculating it, vacation time, all 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:17.600 that kind of stuff. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.000 I think it would be like four years total. 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.640 We got back Torether and got married real fast. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.839 Would you do you like working together or is it 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:29.320 like a weird dynamic working with your partner, Because I 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.560 feel like I'm putting myself in that situation, and I 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.600 feel like, if I was doing the podcast, it's she's 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.960 my best friend, But if it was my boyfriend, I 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.960 feel like, are there ever any things that come up 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:43.599 where you're like, oh, hell, I mean yeah. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:43.880 Of course. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.400 I mean since I was born, I've worked with my family. 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.080 My parents were my managers, and it's always been like 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:53.520 a quote unquote family business. So when my wife expressed 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.200 that she wanted to work with me, I kind of 0:05:56.360 --> 0:06:01.159 understood how to do that. And yeah, yeah, it gets 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.360 a little cloudy and murky here and there when things 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.240 and tension goes up or we don't agree on something, 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.440 but at the end of the day, we know what this, 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:11.800 why we're doing it, and we got to just. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:17.760 Blink down to the eye on the front. You can compartmentalize. Yeah, 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:18.520 that's huge. 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.120 Yeah. We had another guest on who does a podcast 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.520 with our husband, and I was saying that, So my 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:29.320 girlfriend and came on our podcast and when we right 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:30.719 before we were supposed to do it, and it was 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.880 like our we had just come out publicly and we 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:34.680 had been together for four years at this point. We 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.400 came out publicly and it was the first time where 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.880 we were kind of like talking about our love story 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.760 and we were both running late to the podcast and 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.719 got in a fight before we had to go on 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.960 and talk about our beautiful story, and so it was 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.800 just like had to decompress, but like just kind of 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.400 had to show up for it. So I was curious 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.280 if you had had any of those moments of like, 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.440 obviously we get what it's like working together, but there 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:59.080 is that dynamic with your partner where it's like it's business, 0:06:59.600 --> 0:06:59.880 you know. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:02.800 Yeah, there definitely is. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:08.240 I think that it's it builds a different layer of 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.840 like resiliency I think in your relationship, and I think 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.280 it also like you were just saying, when you have 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.600 that argument but then you have to go show up, 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.600 it helps you get over things more quickly in a way, 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.400 I think because it changes the energy so quickly when 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:25.920 you like have to go put on a happy face. 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.720 We've done things before where we've had an argument before. 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.160 There's one that sticks out to. 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:34.320 Me significantly because I was in such a bad mood 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.920 and I was just like, the last thing I want 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:41.400 to do right now is just be like happy and conversational. 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:42.960 I don't want to talk to anyone, see anyone. I 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.840 don't want to be around Raven. But you know, the 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:50.200 show must go on. And there's something in that that 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:53.400 also made me go, wow, that's a new strength for 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.520 me to pull on where I can actually like get 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:00.280 over the bad mood and move through it more quickly 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.960 because I'd actually rather be in a happy state than 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.640 an upset state in general, learn how to fix that. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.320 But yeah, we're humans easy. 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.640 I saw a quote that you did. I don't know 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.160 if it was right when you came out Raven, but 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.000 you were saying how you kind of had this thought 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.400 of like not knowing if you would ever publicly feel 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.559 comfortable being out and you were kind of like, Okay, 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.520 I'll have a boyfriend or a husband, and then I'll 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:29.679 have a friend my best friend. Have you read Seven 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.320 Husbands of Evely and Hugo, Oh my god, I have. Okay. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.920 It reminded me of that when I saw the quote, 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.600 because I was like, that's kind of what she decided 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:39.960 to do. 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:42.439 Yeah, as you remember, I told you about the book 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.520 and I was like, oh, it's a lesbian love story 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:46.120 and she was you. 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.040 Might not, I kind of do. She was a celebrity. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.240 Yeah, I was wondering if you that's where your inspo 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.000 was because I was like, oh, that sounds like that's 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:54.680 not really. 0:08:54.480 --> 0:09:01.080 My genre of book. Can give me like the Da 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:02.400 Vinci Code any day. 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.559 Other things. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.320 I'm like, I live this, I don't have to read 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:06.840 about it. 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:07.640 Obviously. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.160 The Triggering Book, I even remember reading that and I 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.280 was like, this is it's so real, Like it's yeah, 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.480 I think it would trigger you all the triggers. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:18.800 Listen. 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:23.720 That mentality was based off of what the societal norms 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.840 were at the time. Growing up, and as I continued 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:34.600 to live in my skin unapologetically slash with masks on still, 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:39.880 you know, I slowly found a way to feel comfortable 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.200 by peeking my head and my eyes above that mask. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.400 And then with this podcast with my wife, there's a 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:51.160 new mask that I've created where it's closer to who 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:55.040 I am, but with entertainment still there. Because it's really 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:59.480 important to keep some of yourself outside, I mean, keep 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.920 some of yourself inside to where the public's not stealing 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:02.920 your entire soul. 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.280 Yeah, I feel like you know a lot about that, 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:10.600 and yeah, yeah, I felt like when going through, when 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:14.200 I was still publicly in the closet, like I was 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.199 out with everyone in my life, but I remember thinking 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.680 I came from the bachelor world, so it was like 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.080 very hetero and very conservative, and so when it was like, 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.040 you know, I finally felt safe to come out, I 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.600 just had this support system around me. So there wasn't 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.040 that much fear around like what the public would say 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.720 or thing, because there was like the people that mattered 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.760 that were supporting me. So I didn't know if you 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.400 had that experience when you made that decision, because you 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.079 had a lot more eyes on you and came from 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:47.199 a very child based programming. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.000 When I came out, I had the support of my friends, 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.840 but I also don't keep a very large friend group, 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.880 not the support of my family to be one hundred, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.080 and I had the support of the government, so I 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.600 felt like I was good. Like, if you have something 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.800 to say, the government says it's legal, so gives mess. 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:10.400 That's kind of how I felt about it. My partner 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.760 at the time was obviously very supportive and was like, Oh, 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.800 thank god, you can stop like hiding me, you know. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.880 And then yeah, it's difficult. It's difficult to come out 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.400 without a support group. But then there comes a point 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:29.360 sometimes where your mental health and human being needs to 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.800 be free and you just don't give up anymore, you 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:33.360 know what I mean. 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.800 Yeah, that's kind of Actually reading Seven Husbands, I was like, 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.120 it almost felt so parallel to what I was navigating 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.160 that it gave It gave me this like weird feeling 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.440 of what am I I'm living my life for other people, 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.680 worrying about the opinion of people who don't even know me, 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.040 and it was kind of that reality. So and just 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.480 thanks for sharing that. I wanted to touch on that, 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:58.360 just because. 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.520 I mean, thanks for understanding the strugg There are so 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.959 many people that go through that that don't have words 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.760 to attach it to, don't necessarily know what that feeling 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:11.160 is and needs communication and the right vocabulary to express 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:12.600 it and to know that they're not going through it 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:13.319 by themselves. 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:14.960 Yeah, no, it's important. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.839 And do you feel like age played a factor in 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:18.160 that too, where you said you got to the point 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:19.840 where you're like, I just don't give up anymore. 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:21.360 Do you feel like age was part of that. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.600 Age was part of it, for sure, Sickness was part 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:29.160 of it for sure. And honestly, the support. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:29.360 Of the government. 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:30.679 Like, in the back of my head I knew I 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.679 was like, if this is ever legal, then I'm okay. 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:35.480 You know, so weird. 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.200 It's specifically referring to gay marriage being legalized. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:42.079 Yes, so yeah, oh yeah, it's always legal to be gay. 0:12:42.240 --> 0:13:02.240 I mean right everywhere. Yeah, it's scary. I've y all 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.480 talked about the story of how you two met, because 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.080 we we've hinted that it was around the year twenty fifteen. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.000 So we met, and yeah, we did. 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:13.160 We met in the. 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:18.840 Middle of twenty fifteen, and we met at a karaoke 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:23.280 night in West Hollywood that Raven was hosting, and we 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.800 basically like hit it off, and she was like, great, 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:27.520 I'd love to see you again, but I'm moving to 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.960 New York next week, so come to my goodbye my house, 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.560 Like she was staring a house party, goodbye house party, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:35.839 and I was like. 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:37.800 Okay, cool. It was like a total whirlwind. 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:42.920 And we had a solo date the Friday before her 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.719 house party, which was on a Saturday, and we hung 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.160 out like way late into the night. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:49.840 We just talked and talked and talked. 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.360 We went to our house party, and then she came 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.040 back to my place on Sunday after she had recovered 0:13:56.040 --> 0:14:00.320 from the craziness the debauchery of the house party with 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.400 me until she left to go to New York to 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.400 do the view and bought me a plane ticket to 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.200 come see her in New York And I never left 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:09.600 until she broke with me. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.000 How long was that was that? So that was like 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:13.640 a year? Right? 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:16.800 That was basically a little under a year. 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:17.439 Okay. 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.840 You know, every beautiful love story goes through a breakup 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:22.160 and then a coming back together. 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:23.320 So I'm here for. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:24.400 That happened to Tanya too. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:28.880 Yeah, yeah, really, I mean it's sometimes like we actually 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.840 say that we're super grateful for those years because our 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:37.520 three or so years apart, we both grew and learned 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.840 and had new perspective on what we had found in 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.400 each other, and it was it was needed. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:45.640 And so how did you ultimately get back together? 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:52.520 I well, during COVID, I separated from somebody that I 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.000 was talking to. I purged the house. I had four 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.200 one night, hundred junk dump trucks come to my house 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.000 and cleaned out the entire house. 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:04.040 Great feeling. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.000 It was fantastic. 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:08.600 I think I'm the only person in the world who 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.400 loved lockdown like I thrived. And well, no, my wife 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:16.400 did too. And during that time I called her and 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.520 I text, called, text whatever, and I was like, you 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.840 were right, I have issues and we can be friends now. 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.440 And then she kept she stayed in my pocket as 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.400 I cleaned the house, and then, like. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:29.960 She means, she kept me on FaceTime. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.800 She'd call me at like six thirty in the morning, 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.520 and mind you, it's COVID, it's I'm you. 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:36.480 I got none to do. 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:38.520 I'm like trying to. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.640 Sleep at least until eight, But like six thirty in 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.960 the morning, I'd see her and then I'd get, of course, 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:44.240 butterflies and so excited. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.160 I'd opened the phone and then she's. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:47.880 Like, Hi, oh my god, Okay, wait, where do you 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.360 think I should put this person. Where do you think 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.080 I should do this? Because she's reorganizing everything. And then 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.680 she would just put me in her pocket and proceed 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.880 to clean her house and do things. So I'd just 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.640 hear the shuffles and see a black screen and occasionally 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.160 like up her nose and it was great. 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:06.560 And so then she proceeded to make me a package, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.320 a COVID package. And that was the moment I was like, 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.400 m mine. 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.080 I mean, I don't know how much time we have, 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.960 but you guys, that package I had it caused me 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.000 so much stress. I was like, this thing needs to 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.720 be perfect. I baked all of these cookies. I made 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.560 her lemon curd, I made I made her lemon curd, 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:32.000 I made barbecue sauce. I made a sticky, ooey, gooey buttercake, 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.920 all her favorites, deserts right, and I send it out. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.560 I pay like it's cope. Remember how crazy the mail was? Yeah, 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:43.040 so shipping is already going to be expensive for something overnight. 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.800 And I also should mention that I had gone up 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:50.480 to Washington to my mom. I'd left LA and I 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.160 sund the package it gets lost. They're like, it's going 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.840 to be three days now, everything's going to rot. I know, 0:16:56.440 --> 0:17:00.400 interscept the package with the ups I have then to 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:01.400 make a whole new one. 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.440 It was blood, sweat and tears. 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.520 I got that package on Mary, I got that package. 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:10.240 I'm like, oh, let me just let me just lock 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.679 this down, let me get this lemon curd. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:16.000 Lid. 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.399 But did it symbolize something for you? Just like the 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.439 fact that she paid attention to like your favorite things 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.560 and put so much time and effort and energy into 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:25.280 like making that. 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.000 Oh, the way you say it is how I should 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.440 say it right, Like that's the perfect sentthing. I should 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.359 say it just like that. However, I'm going to say 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:34.280 it how I'm going to say it. 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:35.879 That was bad. 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.000 And I wanted more of it for the rest of 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:43.680 my life. She knew that I liked food mud belief. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.960 But even when we were dating back in twenty fifteen, 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.199 she used to make these like this ziletus. She used 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:55.640 to make these amazing prenatal vitamin bars because I wanted 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.520 to grow my hair out and grow my nails. She 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.280 was like, I know, I'm going to help you grow 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:03.360 your nails in hair. So she put these beautiful, amazing 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:07.159 tasting granola bars and with vitamins in it, and I 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.199 would eat it on the way to the view. And 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:13.000 so she was always an amazing chef and we really 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.199 connect on food a lot, and I was just like, 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.439 none of my other partners ever fed my belly, and 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:19.960 you know, the belly is the second brain. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.240 The best thing to me though about those bars is 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:26.920 I was customizing them to Ravens nutritional wants at the time. 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.160 But then of course she loves to share, so we 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:35.520 had everyone at the view eating pre natals in granola 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.320 bars not knowing. So like I'd have these like grip 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.480 men come up to me and they're like, oh, Maranda, 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.440 that bar. So I'm like, you're gonna have better hair. 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:49.000 You're like, I'm just laughing to my never had. My 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:54.480 wife was like, you're literally eating vagina jue. 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.720 Like you're eating vagina juice. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:00.760 How do you know how to do that? Like is 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:02.560 that something that you studied or what? 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.240 She's a little white witch. No, I did not. 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.440 I mean my study, yes, I guess I did. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:08.760 Kind of. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.280 It was called staying home from school because I had 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:16.399 an air quote stomach ache and watching Ricky Lake, Jenny 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.359 Jones and then Food Network until about seven thirty PM. 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:23.360 So that was my I went to the school Food Network. Yeah, 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.439 and I also I think that as a person who 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.240 grew up with a lot of anxiety and from such 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.520 a young age, I was anxious, I couldn't I didn't 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.760