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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Titans Amy and Coach Mac Podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am Titans Amy, Amy Wells and Coach Mac is also

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Speaker 1: here of course, Mac, how you doing doing great? I mean,

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Speaker 1: how could I not be doing good? We're doing Titans

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Speaker 1: Amy Coach Mac podcast. There is I like that, Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: Something I like that we are both doing is we

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Speaker 1: are rolling through this series of names you need to

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Speaker 1: know in the National Football League, and we've had some doozies.

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Speaker 1: And I'm excited about today's guest as well, because I

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Speaker 1: think that this is an unassuming one that I immensely

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Speaker 1: enjoyed our conversation Dan Pompey, who is currently a writer

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Speaker 1: know he's a great friend of yours. He's a good

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Speaker 1: friend of mine. You know, I first met Dan when

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Speaker 1: covering the Bears during those years that were really the

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Speaker 1: They trusted him very much. Then he went on in

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Speaker 1: a very distinguished career in the print media. He's also

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Speaker 1: just like you don't last long in the National Football

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Speaker 1: poignant article on Steve McMichael, who is you know, who

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Speaker 1: that's a rare trait. Yeah, and it develops over time.

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Speaker 1: I mean you can't manufacture experience, and you can't manufacture trust,

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Speaker 1: Max podcast. Dan, thank you so much for taking some

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Speaker 1: You know, I sometimes get a little confused about where

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Speaker 1: do my best. Well, Dan, you know, you and I've

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Speaker 1: You covered all of those great years, which I call

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Speaker 1: was football camelot. You know, there there there in the

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Speaker 1: as far as now you're a very, very prominent writer

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Speaker 1: with kind of your view on it, Dan, because you

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Speaker 1: I'd like to start out by saying, too, how Coach

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Speaker 1: Mac has always been one of my favorite people in

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Speaker 1: it was just really a special team Dan, How was

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Speaker 1: And I'm so happy that we were able to add

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Speaker 1: Damn Pompeii to that mix. I think that he's a

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Speaker 1: you can't manufacture experience, right, No, that's a coach machism

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Speaker 1: Mike has a wide range of areas that I touch.

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Speaker 1: I'll go all the way from from roosters to writers,

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Speaker 1: I love it, Mac. This has been a great series

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Speaker 1: this has been a real delight. It's great to see

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Speaker 1: you as always. For Dan Pompey and Coach Mack, I'm

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Speaker 1: Amy Wells saying thanks for listening to the Titans Amy

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Speaker 1: and Coach Mac podcast. I like to some do