1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: It's no secret I think, guys that we all miss traveling. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: A couple of us have been fortunate enough to travel 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: for work amid the pandemic. We're hoping it'll kick up again. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: One time, back in the day, we went to d 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: C to figure out what the heck is going on 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: with one of the most conspiracy ridden cities in the country. Yes, 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: we traveled out to the actual capital. Again, I'm on 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: these classic episodes. I keep thinking about the videos because 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: this is We're still making a ton of videos back then. Yeah, 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: Ben was there. I was shooting him with a camera 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: and there were some weird action going on behind us 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: as we're talking about this stuff, like go to the 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: YouTube channel check it out. Yeah, I think this was 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: before my time, maybe just a little bit. I just 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: was doing the just barely before. But I do remember 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: the first time I went to d C, I was 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: so taken by the fact that even the like homeless population, 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: they're absurdly informed, uh and had some pretty wild idea 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: as of what's going on behind the curtain. Yeah, well 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: said One of the things It's funny to me is 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: that conspiracies in d C helps get to interesting conversation 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: about how quickly stuff becomes normal. Like, imagine the room 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: where people are pitching the idea for the Washington Monument. 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: You would think, maybe it's a statue of Washington. You 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: would think maybe it's like a depiction of a notable 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: battle or a pivotal moment in the formation of the country. Now, 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: how about weird phallic Illuminati obelisk? Yeah, like just saying 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: they're just they At some point they said, you know what, 29 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: let's do an obelisk, something uniquely American. But at least 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: it was the original version of what the monument was 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: going to be, which was much more Masonic. But no spoilers, 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: let's get into it from UFOs two Ghosts and government 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: cover ups. History is whiled with unexplained events. You can 34 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want 35 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: you to now. Hello, welcome back to the show. My 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: name is matt On Ben and we are here as 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: always with our super producer, Noel the Mason Brown in spirit. 38 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: At least, yes, the Masonic spirit of Noel Brown exists 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: in this room. Right, we'll go ahead and have our 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: secret handshake here. M I haven't seen that one before. Yeah, 41 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: we can do it in front of the microphones because 42 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 1: this is an audio podcast, so we're we're pretty informal today. Uh, 43 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about is Washington, d C. Just 44 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: a just a little bit. We're just gonna scratch along 45 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: the surface of this gigantic thing, both as a subject, 46 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: as a town, as a historical um hub. Well, it's 47 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: it's strangely small in size comparatively to the importance that 48 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: it holds for this country and perhaps for the world. Yeah, 49 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: that's a great point. No, Matt, you've been to Washington before, 50 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: and you know later this week tomorrow, in fact, as 51 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: we record this, this podcast will come out on Friday, 52 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: on the thirty one of July, if you're hearing it 53 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: the same day it comes out, And when it's out, 54 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: we will be hopefully not arrested somewhere in the metro area. 55 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: We can only hope. We can only hope. But we're 56 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: not strangers to the town. We've both gone. So what 57 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: what was your experience like? Yes, I have been there 58 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: a few times, I think three in total, taking a 59 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: trip for school and for high school. Then I went 60 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: just on a whim one time, and then the last 61 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: time I was there it was for the rally for Sanity. 62 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: I forget the full title, but it was the shindig 63 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: that John Stewart put together with Stephen Colbert that was 64 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: amaz saying that was one of my favorite experiences of 65 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: all time, the rally to Restore Sanity and or fear Yes, yes, 66 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Colbert bringing in the Fear wagon as well. It was 67 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: just it was amazing to see so many human beings 68 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: on the National Mall at one time for something that 69 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: you know, admittedly was for comedy, for jokes, but it 70 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: had this air of seriousness to it at the time. 71 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: It was strange, and I was at what year was that, 72 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: two thousand eight thousand? That was two thousand ten. Wow, Okay, 73 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: so that's when I was relatively new in my political awakening, 74 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: my just awakening to all of the larger things that 75 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: happened in the world. And I had been watching John 76 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: Stewart on The Daily Show for so long. It just 77 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: it the whole thing resonated with me being in that place, 78 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to be there again. Yeah, I 79 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: wonder if we'll see if we'll see John up there. 80 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: I hear good things about him. It's strange he's got 81 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: seven shows left, I think, Yeah, who knows what he's 82 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: gonna do, go back to directing, perhaps, go back to 83 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe he'll take a vacation. Doesn't seem 84 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: like he actually gets many of those. Perhaps there was 85 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: this uh, moving moment when he came up to make 86 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: a speech to the assembled crowd, which you saw live, 87 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: and it was clear, it was apparent how overwhelmed he 88 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: was by this. And and John Stewart is not a 89 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: guy who seems to get overwhelmed easily and keeps it together. 90 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: He keeps it together. He's talked to, He's talked to 91 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: people who later turned out to be essentially war criminals 92 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: like Pervez Musharief Musheriff, the former leader of Pakistan. And 93 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: he when I when I saw that, I thought for 94 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: a second, oh man, did you not anticipate that as 95 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: the most trusted journalist overall in the US, you know, 96 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: cheap thing that he usually disavows. But a lot of people, 97 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: im polls say that he is their most trusted source 98 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: of news. And you know, take that, take that as 99 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: as you will, I would say, but uh, I can 100 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: tell you a little bit about the times I went 101 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: to d C. I went there as a kid in 102 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: high school, as well, and fairly certain it was high school, 103 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: though the past does blur like a watercolor in the rain. 104 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: And uh. I also went up to d C a 105 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: couple of times to do UH in the process of 106 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: joining the State Department, before I became uh disillusioned by it. 107 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: And I don't mean to disparage the State Department professionals 108 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: working there, the people that I met in the course 109 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: of that before I decided not to go that route, 110 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: we're all very sincere and no, you know, nobody was 111 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: a jerk or anything. I just started to get the 112 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: feeling that maybe the goals that I had and goals 113 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: that the State Department has might not align. Yeah. So 114 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: this was before going deep into international affairs. Yeah, this 115 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: was This was slightly before I started studying that at Tech. 116 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: So we've been there before, but we've never we've never 117 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: lived there. And d C is interesting in the US 118 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: because it is unique amidst all the other area classifications. Right, 119 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: so we we we'd like to do is talk a 120 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: little bit about the history of d C. So we 121 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: know that before the US was even a thing, before 122 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: anybody said, hey, guys, hold my beer, let me try this, 123 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: the the place was populated, even though there are these 124 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: myths about the US being relatively sparsely populated. Uh, they 125 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: are myths. Uh. The human presence dates back at least 126 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: four thousand years. Uh. The European exploration of the region 127 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: so far as we know, started early in the sixteenth centuries, 128 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: so sixteen hundred ish. And there was a guy named 129 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: Captain John Smith you might remember from who was there 130 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: in sixteen o eight. Uh. The different tribes that lived 131 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: around the area included people like the uh nato Chunk, 132 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: the Potoa make after which you know, the Potomac, the Pootan, 133 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: and some other some other groups right. Uh. And the 134 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: present day Georgetown is actually the site of a village 135 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: called Tahoga, which I which I honestly may be mispronouncing. 136 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: We also know a little bit about the first colonial 137 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: landowners who settled down there, right yeah. That would be 138 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: George Thompson and Thomas Gerard. These guys were both granted 139 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: the Blue Planes Tract in sixteen sixty two, along with 140 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: the St. Elizabeth area of land there um, and a 141 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: couple other tracks in Anacostia like Capitol Hill yeah yeah, 142 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: and then other tracks areas down the Potomac as time 143 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: ground on. Now Thompson, probably much to the dismay of 144 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,239 Speaker 1: his later family and his later family he of his descendants. 145 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: He sold his properties at Capitol Hill in sixteen seventy 146 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: to a guy named Thomas not Lee. Uh. This this 147 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: uh continued for a while, you know, as more Europeans 148 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: were establishing areas and of course clashing with the people 149 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: who already lived there and said you're what are you doing? Right? 150 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: And the this led to the construction of FOURT in 151 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: sixteen seven and was it was in the bounds of 152 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: what is now d C. But even though all this 153 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: stuff happened, right, even though all this stuff happened in 154 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: the sixteen hundreds, Washington, d C. Of course, as many 155 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: of our listeners surely, no, was not the original capital 156 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: of the US. The US has had multiple capitals. Uh. 157 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: There was one in New York City when they decided 158 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: to form it in d C. And then Philadelphia, Annapolis, 159 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: the list goes on. The area it's called the District 160 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: of Columbia didn't become the capital until about uh seventeen ninety, right, yeah, 161 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: that's right, And that was with the Residents Act of 162 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: July seventeen and DC itself was founded in seventeen one, 163 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: the same year that President Washington commissioned a guy named 164 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: Pierre Charles lamfont uh to, a French board architect, to 165 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: design the new capital. And he did, yeah, yeah, this 166 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: comes into play later, right, yeah. He there were a 167 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: lot of strange things with his his design that were cool. Admittedly, 168 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: they're just these huge broad streets, um, these avenues that 169 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: were we're basically created out of these rectangles, and it 170 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: was the meat. The whole idea was to provide space 171 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: for landscaping, open areas. But man, it sure looks strange 172 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: when you look at it on a map, some of 173 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: the areas right right here, and you guys, see what 174 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: we're foreshadowing here, which we'll get to. So Pierre bases 175 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: his designs on plans from cities, great European cities, right Paris, Amsterdam, Milan, 176 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: and so on. But the layout later, what we'll find later, 177 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: uh becomes a source of controversy in the modern age 178 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: and becomes uh polluted might be a fair word, by 179 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: later builders making new street random buildings in places that 180 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: he would never want him so today, or at least 181 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: as often Washington, the actual city of Washington d C 182 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: has a population of uh, what just over six hundred 183 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: fifty thousand. I think you might have the exact number, Yes, 184 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty eight thousand, eight hundred and ninety three. 185 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: Could say that that those extra three people that came 186 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: in last summer, right, yeah, yeah, and uh that that 187 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: seems like a deceptively small number for the capital is 188 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: such a large country. Deceptively small indeed, because that number 189 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: is only accounting for the actual city, the city of Washington, 190 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: d C. The actual District of Columbia. Yes, and you 191 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: look at the metro area that's surrounding it, you that 192 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: number jumps all the way up to I think five 193 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: point eight million, huge, a little bigger. So that's the 194 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: that encounters places like UM. They're that rather encompasses places 195 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: like Maryland, Virginia. Nearby towns in those areas, uh, one 196 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: of which you and I went on a trip to 197 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: UH a few years back. Very strange experience. It's a 198 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: different story. One of the biggest controversies, at least in 199 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: the mainstream eye, for d C, is that UH, in 200 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: a burst of tremendous irony, local citizens District of Columbia 201 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: have no representation in Congress. Yeah, if you live in 202 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: that just that tiny little area. Sorry, the capital of 203 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: a country partially formed by uh, partially formed by this 204 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: principle of no taxation without representation, have no representation because 205 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: they're not state in Congress. Yes. Uh. And due to uh, 206 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: due to the nature of this organization, the legal system 207 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: of d C is byzantine. It is incredibly complicated. If 208 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: you are going through the criminal justice system in d C, 209 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: and I hope you never ever are in any state, really, 210 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: then what you will find is the things are a 211 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: little bit different. First, since about nineteen seventy three and 212 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: at other times in DC's history, Congress has allowed locally 213 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: elected officials like a mayor and council to carry out 214 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: certain local government functions. However, because Congress has constitutional authority 215 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: to control the area, they literally can overturn any of 216 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: those laws any time they want, and they don't have 217 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: to have a reason. Sorry, you don't get you don't 218 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: get to do that anymore now, whatever it is. Uh, 219 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: crime has historically been an issue. It has declined over time, 220 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: but it remains above the US average. Uh. This and 221 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: you know, of course, DC is a town chuck full 222 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: of lawyers, so it's not surprising that would be so 223 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: uh so complicated. Here's one example. So let's say pick 224 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: one of our coworkers that that that our audience would know. 225 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: How about Chuck all right, Chuck Bryant from stuff you 226 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: should know. So let's say Chuck gets on the wrong 227 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: side of the law, and uh and he is. He 228 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: is going up the river. He's got to get his 229 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: he's got to get a lawyer, he's got to go 230 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: to trial. Serious business. So oh and by the way, 231 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: listeners right in and let us know what what crime 232 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: you would imagine Chuck committing. And with that being said, 233 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: we're just using him as an example. He has not, 234 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: our knowledge, done anything crazy, zero right, zero crimes. And 235 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: instead of this crime, this hypothetical crime being handled by 236 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: a state attorney as it would in any other similar case, 237 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: it goes directly to the U. S. District attorney. It 238 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: does not pas go, it does not collect two hundred dollars. 239 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: Seems like that would be a lot for the U. S. 240 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: District attorney to handle. Yes, yeah, it's true. I'd love 241 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: to hear from somebody affiliated with that system. Uh So, 242 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: of course, Washington today is also home to the three 243 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: branches of the federal government, nearly two hundred foreign embassies, 244 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: Matt's favorite lobbyists and think tanks. Yeah, lobbyists, K Street. 245 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: Did you ever see that showcase Street that came out? Yeah, yeah, 246 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: pretty good. Went for about two seasons before it was pulled. 247 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: Tremendously popular in Washington. It was tremendously popular in Washington 248 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: because it's kind of looking behind the curtain. The staff 249 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: they had, the production staff and people writing knew what 250 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: they were talking about. Presented almost this weird dystopian version 251 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: of reality, which what's sad. Now that's you know, that's 252 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: a great segue to the the other stuff we wanted 253 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: to talk about. Here's where it gets crazy. Maybe let's 254 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: talk about the conspiracy theories. Let's go back to the Freemasons. Okay, 255 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: that's the biggest one. I remember we did a couple 256 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: of episodes about Freemasons early on when this show started, 257 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: and we thought we would have about a month of 258 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: doing it before we got fired. Yeah, especially after that episode, 259 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: just because it's the reality of the let's say, the 260 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: Masonic hand that was inside the creation of d C 261 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: and that has historically been a part of at least 262 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: a a substantial number of our leaders. There's a Masonic 263 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: line that goes through there. If we were talking about 264 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: something that we really shouldn't have been talking about, then 265 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: there's one reason that we get canceled. Right. The second reason, 266 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: and I think the most important reason that the show 267 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: was just why would you make this? You know what 268 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: I mean? Well? Yeah, Also, you know, I think there's 269 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: such inherent narcissism and paranoia sometimes I really don't think. 270 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope these are words I don't have 271 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: to eat later, But I really don't believe that there's 272 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: any reason that somebody would see our show and say, 273 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: oh no, they have to be stopped, right, Absolutely not. 274 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: But you know, it is called stuff they don't want 275 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: you to know. And we get comments on YouTube all 276 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: the time like what are all the major secrets just 277 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: on YouTube available for free? Well, I would say, I 278 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: would say, while that is a very good comparison up 279 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: there with the earlier comparison you and I have made 280 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: about Wi Jia boards and whether proof of life after 281 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: death comes from a mass market at Parker Brothers game. Uh, 282 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: while that is a reasonable thing, the truth is that 283 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: YouTube and podcasting and I'm not saying our shows in particular. 284 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 1: But YouTube and podcasting and communicating directly to people online is, 285 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: despite its many pitfalls, uh, still a better chance of 286 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: getting less uh less manipulation or less suppression of a story. Right. Yeah, 287 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: there are fewer people dictating what people who create content 288 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: that goes there, what they can and cannot say, right 289 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: right exactly, Like whomever is affiliated with a large a 290 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: large industrial giant like Westinghouse or something is not probably 291 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: not going to be able to give an objective report 292 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: on any problems, essentially systemic problems with a lot of 293 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: Westinghouse equipment. It's just not gonna happen new And if 294 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: they're if they're controlled by a car company for some reason, 295 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: then they're going to give a very different report on recalls. 296 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: So that's that's the nature of it. But the idea 297 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: that d C is this Freemason town, the idea that 298 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: it is at heart run by the Masons, was historically 299 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: a tremendously popular idea, so much so that there was 300 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: an anti Masonic party, anti Masonic political party at time 301 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: for a time in the US. Uh. There of course 302 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: no longer around in serious capacity. So we've done this 303 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: stuff on whether Freemason's control Washington. We also did one 304 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: on Albert Pike, I believe, big figure in the Masonic 305 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: tradition that had I think a magical amulet some sort 306 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: I forget the whole episode, but he could communicate or 307 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: allegedly he could communicate somehow with the demons through his 308 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: magical similar to like a key of Solomon. Thing pretty cool, 309 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: which is I guess not ring of Solomon, rather the 310 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: legendary one. It is true that there are some seeds 311 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: of truth to this, because not to the amulet and 312 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: to the Freemasons, because it's true that national headquarters of 313 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: Masonry is in d C. It's the prime temple for 314 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: all of the other lodges, or the prime lodge, I 315 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: should say, yeah, it's That's where you can find the 316 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: House of the Temple. It's also where you can find 317 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: the Supreme Council of the Scottish right, it's there are 318 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: a couple other buildings. I think George Washington even has 319 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: a memorial right which we're gonna we're gonna have to visit, 320 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: not the George Washington statue, not the creepy obelisk, not 321 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: the obelisk, but a whole separate building, which is the 322 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: the Masonic Memorial for George Washington, and the official name 323 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: of that House of the Temple, by the way, is 324 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: quote Home of the Supreme Council thirty three degrees ancient 325 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: accepted Scottish Rite freemasonry. Uh yeah, that's oh. It's also 326 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: the southern jurisdiction Washington, d C. USA. Okay, so it 327 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: doesn't quite roll off the tongue. I can see how 328 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: people call it the house, or maybe people just refer 329 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: to it as the temple. Yeh've I've often heard it 330 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: called the Supreme Council or the House of the Supreme Council. 331 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: So there's another piece of truth here. It is also 332 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: true that Mason's were involved in the construction of numerous 333 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: other historic buildings in the area. We've got a great 334 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: quote from a guy named Mark Tabert, who was the 335 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: who was the director of collections at the George Washington 336 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 1: Masonic Memorial in Alexandria, Virginia. He says, individually, Mason's had 337 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: a role in building the White House and building and 338 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: designing d C and small scale Masonic symbols can be 339 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: found throughout the city, as they can in most U. 340 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: S cities. So this. Uh, this note here is important 341 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: because he's saying individual Masons were involved, not necessarily a 342 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: big collective, saying this is the pentagram we shall wrought 343 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: upon the face of this nation. Absolutely, he's also reminding 344 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: you that Mason's have had their hand in creating buildings 345 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: and cities throughout the United States. If you go to 346 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: a Decatur, Georgia, a smaller little town east of where 347 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: we are right now, and uh, there's a building I 348 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: think it's the I don't know if it's the city 349 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: council building. Uh, it's one of the main building like 350 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: county courthouse, I think. And then directly across from it 351 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: is the old uh Freemason temple or used to be 352 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: a lodge there and now it's a mixed use building. 353 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: But on the corner you can see there's a there's 354 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: a big sign up that has the what is it 355 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: the Masonic compass, the square in compass. Then on the 356 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: bottom that you can you can look at the cornerstone 357 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: that has a bunch of etching on their cornerstone. Have 358 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: been important in these this kind of construction for a 359 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: very long time. So so then this is either h 360 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: it makes you feel a little better you're like, oh, well, 361 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: just Freemasons have a hand and everything, or makes you 362 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: feel a little worse. Oh wait, Freemasons just have a 363 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: hand in everything. Well, this is more a statement I 364 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: guess about my personal philosophy. So this is just my opinion, 365 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. It's don't have a fact to back 366 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: it up. I am naturally instinctively and continually concern and 367 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: skeptical about the motivations for any group that requires secrecy. 368 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: I hear that, you know, it's not I, like many 369 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: other people, believe it's not enough for someone to pack 370 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: the public on the head and say, trust us, we're 371 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: the good guys. Don't worry, Bobby, We've got this right right, 372 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: because another thing that we have learned throughout human history 373 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: and modern day psychology is that very few people that 374 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: we would consider bad guys or people who are people 375 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: who have antagonistic aims or something like that, very few 376 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: of those people ever think of themselves as villains. And the 377 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: the good guys perhaps misunderstood, right, yeah, I misunderstood. Or 378 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: perhaps they're good goals or the goals that they believe 379 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: are for the greater it or for some some great, 380 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: greater good. These are this is the right thing to do. 381 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to break some eggs, Benjamin, right, right, matcham, 382 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: And sometimes you have to break some eggs. So the Freemasons, 383 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: I think we should do a podcast entirely on the 384 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: Masonic Orders. Absolutely. We need to find a high ranking 385 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: Mason in Atlanta to come and talk to us. Who's 386 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: willing to talk to us. There's no shortage. We can 387 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: also interview some Masonic historians. That's great. Yeah, the the 388 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: stuff that we had found. You know, I had speculated 389 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: for a while the idea of uh joining Masonry. But 390 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: I try to be very respectful. So I would never 391 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: join an organization with the idea that I will be 392 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: a mole. It just doesn't seem Yeah, I would never 393 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: do that either. It doesn't seem like the right kind 394 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: of motivation. Agreed, right, You're sarc has them is dripping 395 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: off of you and rolling across the table. What secret 396 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: society have you infiltrated? Man? I haven't been. I would 397 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: never do such a thing, have you really? No? Okay, Well, 398 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: if you have, and if you are, then it doesn't 399 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: necessarily have to be the Masons, because we get caught 400 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: up in this idea which is which is a valid 401 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: concern right of secret societies, but Freemasons are not the 402 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: only secret society. Really depends on what you would consider secret. Right. 403 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: Many of the many of the discussions that the United 404 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: Nations or various embassies hold in Washington, those are not 405 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: for public consumption. There's another group called the Second Stewards 406 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: that recently got into some heat for apparently trying to 407 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: fix the election at Georgetown. Yeah. I think the reporting 408 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: is a little bit skewed there. The Second Stewart, which 409 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: we're supposed to have been abolished, but it came to light. 410 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: Uh in let me make sure I got the fact 411 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: ry came to light in two thousand thirteen. That's someone 412 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: who is going to be in the student government head 413 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 1: of student government, who was running for it. Uh at 414 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: Georgetown was a member of the Second Stewart Society. So, 415 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, colleges, especially higher level colleges, are just lousy 416 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: with this stuff. But yeah, I mean, can we just 417 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: talk about George W. Bush versus Kerry for then with 418 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: the Skull and Bones Society mutual membership, Yeah, you know, 419 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: a bit weird. Well that's another thing, you know, should 420 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: elected officials be allowed to be members of a secret society. 421 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think so where do your loyalties live? 422 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: And right, right, we do have some unfortunate news about 423 00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: the the actual street layout. Uh, if you if you 424 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: look at it, and if you look at some of 425 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: the history, it doesn't it doesn't really seem that this 426 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem that there was purposely a Satanic pentagram 427 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: or something constructed. It is eerily close to that. I 428 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: have to say, Um, if you just look at it 429 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: with a map, let's say, satellite of Google Maps, but 430 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: you can tell it's unfinished. If they did mean to 431 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: make it, then they purposefully didn't finish it. Yeah, And 432 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. It seems a little weird, right man. 433 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: Well you can. The thing is you can read these 434 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: you can read things from the people who believe that 435 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: a larger Masonic organization and or Satanic secret religion built 436 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: the layout. While you can read these things, what you 437 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: also see is that they claim these somehow harness lay lines. 438 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: For people who believe in lay lines, these are geomagnetic 439 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: lines criss crossing the Earth that supply uh, some sort 440 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: of energy, and the interpretation of what sort of energy 441 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: that might be changes over time. Yes, and it's certainly 442 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: something we have yet to prove in any scientific fashion. Right. However, 443 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: there is there is solid proof, of course that many 444 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: of the many of the things cited as hubs for 445 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: lay lines in in the US are or in the world, 446 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: I should say, uh, do exhibit a sophisticated knowledge of astronomy. 447 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: So they're definitely built for that time, right to measure 448 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: the rise and the fall of the stars and the 449 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: sun and the moon, equinox, solstice, stuff like that, and uh, 450 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: in many cases, to also predict those movements in the heavens, 451 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: which to me is brilliant and so so intelligent that 452 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of frightening, especially because in the modern age, 453 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: for such a long time people loved to dire ride uh, 454 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: the past generations, right, those heathens they knew not what 455 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: we know now, right. And again this is this is 456 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: just scratching the surface. We haven't even talked about how 457 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: incredibly weird the obelisk for the Washington Monument is now 458 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: incredibly old obelisks are, or the original plans for the 459 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: Washington Monument which had an obelisk, but also this temple, right, 460 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: a straight up old school temple, and uh, which to 461 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: me is kind of what became the the Masonic Memorial 462 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: for Washington. Yes, and uh, we're going to have to 463 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: head out because candidly we have to pack and do 464 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: some other stuff. But we wanted to hear. We wanted 465 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: to open a conversation. Ask you what some of your 466 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: favorite theories about Washington, d c R and what what 467 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: you think the future of the city is, especially get 468 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: in some of these enormous contradictions. Would you ever live there? 469 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: Do have you ever lived there? Do you live there now? Uh? 470 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: Can we crash on your couch? Uh? We're kidding. Hopefully, 471 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get it together enough that I don't care, man, 472 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: I'll sleep on the trend you know, I don't see 473 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: much well. And one other thing, I hope some of 474 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: you joined us on our periscope missions that we were 475 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: doing while we were in d c Uh. If you 476 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: did not, hopefully we'll be doing that again at some point, 477 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: So make sure you were following us on Twitter at 478 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: conspiracy stuff to get updates of when those little quick 479 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: live broadcasts might happen. Well, we're gonna try and surprise 480 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: you guys a couple of times. Uh that that would 481 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: be huge also follow us on Facebook, y'all's yeah, you 482 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: can find Facebook and Twitter where conspiracy stuff at both 483 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: of those at a blog entry recently where put our 484 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: first uh the time of our first periscope experiment. And 485 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: I'll be continually updating that blog as well as the 486 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: social media stuff to let you guys know where we're going, 487 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: when we'll be there, and if you would like you're 488 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: in the area, full free to swing by and say hello. 489 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: Uh we we won't be too weird, I hope right, 490 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: not in an extreme way, but the weirdness you will 491 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: catch on, you'll you'll be able to feel it. I'm 492 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm a regular guy. I'm an open book on a 493 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: sunny day in a meadow. Well I am not all right, 494 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go ahead and get out of here. 495 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: Um oh, and there's one more thing. We said earlier 496 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: that our super producer Noll is with us in spirit 497 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: but not in the flesh, and we can't hear him, 498 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: but you guys probably can. D C a reflection by 499 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: super producer Noel Brown Washington. D C is not an 500 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: easy to play. The piano is not an easy to play. 501 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: The piano is not an issue that the two men 502 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: in black screen is not the best way of saying 503 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: it is the most recent version in that first place. 504 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: I have no clue who I was, like, I don't 505 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: have the right way and it will take the bus 506 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: drive or just got to it was my mom and 507 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: my friends to be sorry everyone. The spirit world is really, really, 508 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: really weird. What is that? That is that him? Well, 509 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything, but it was cool sitting here 510 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: awkwardly with you in silence for a few minutes. I 511 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: did hear that door open and closed really loudly a 512 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: couple of times. Let's be the spirit world, and that's 513 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: the end of this classic episode. If you have any 514 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: thoughts or questions about this episode, you can get into 515 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: contact with us in a number of different ways. One 516 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: of the best is to give us a call. Our 517 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: number is one eight three three std w y t K. 518 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: If you don't want to do that, you can send 519 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: us a good old fashioned email. We are conspiracy at 520 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: i heart radio dot com. 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