1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm your host, christ and this is to keep it positive, Sweetie. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: Show welcome to keep it positive, sweetye the place where 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: we he'll grow and learn together. 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Today's guest is a comedian. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: Creator and storyteller who has built his voice on truth, 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: using humor to reflect real life in a way that 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: resonates deeply with so many. I am so glad to 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 2: be sitting with keV on stage. keV on Stage is 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: known for his ability to take everyday moments, relationships, family, faith, 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: and culture and turn them into something both humorous and honest. 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: But beyond the laughter, he's also creating space for deeper conversations. 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 2: From his serious safe Space to his hit one man 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: show Grief Sucks, he's exploring what it looks like to 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: navigate love, lost, growth in real time without pretending that 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: you have to have it all figured out. Sweetie, please 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: give a very warm welcome to my keV on stay. 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: Praise the Lord, sweeties, Praise the Lord. We're here in 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: the room. We've been trying to make this happen for 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: a long time we have, and you're finally here, finally 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: here here. 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: Great thank you for having me. No, thank you, of course, 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: I know. 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean you're not. You don't live in Atlanta, so 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: thank you for. 27 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 3: Having in Atlanta. But when I come, I'll be like, man, 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: I should live here. I'm telling you it is so black. Yes, 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: everything black, Everything that's good about being black is here. 30 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: It is really creative. 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: Is the culture of the community regular black. It ain't 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: just just black people, Southern charm. Traffic I could do without. 33 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: You know, go out to mcdonna though. Traffic should not 34 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: go out to make and didn't used to go out 35 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: to McDonough. 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: But they go out mcdonna though. As far so, that's 37 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: the lucky I've been telling people. It's worse than LA here. 38 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: You think, so I do LA in the heart of 39 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: the city. It makes sense. Atlanta's traffic is further in 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 4: the hardest. It's like everywhere, and then the little back 41 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 4: roads ain't back road. Everybody knows that, lady, so are 42 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: we Yep, I've been using this for you. 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: Ain't no tricks, ain't no treat. 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: You are right, Yes, you're absolutely right. That's I didn't 45 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: think that. I feel like since twenty twenty. 46 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 4: It's gotten when i've been I come to Atlanta two 47 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 4: or three five times a year over the last six 48 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: seven years. 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: It's crazy. And I live in l A. I know, 50 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: bad trapping. Yeah, Atlanta's worse. 51 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: Dang Atlanta, get it together. 52 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: Everybody moving here to chase they. 53 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: Drink, listen and say that money that money on Mary Camp, 54 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming today. 55 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: I remember we first officially. 56 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: I've been a fan of yours before we actually met, 57 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: but we met on the shops HBCU tour and TSU Yes, 58 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: And at that moment, I was like, man, he is 59 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: who he is, because you know, sometimes. 60 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: You meet people you've been a fan, but then can 61 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: beat me like he died, he said he is. 62 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 4: I really appreciate that compliment. I've been getting that compliment 63 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 4: a lot. And I work very hard to be who 64 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: I am all the time. 65 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean I'm perfect like. 66 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,279 Speaker 4: I but I but I genuinely try to be consistent, 67 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I don't have this like 68 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 4: because now you know, we live in a world of authenticity. 69 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 4: You if you aren't who you are, they will people 70 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 4: will find out anyway. So it's not like we ain't 71 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 4: wrestlers in the eighties and like there's too many stories, 72 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 4: too many people we act with that we don't know 73 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 4: who knows them, especially you. And now you be on set, 74 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 4: somebody gonna be on that set that knows somebody else, 75 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 4: that knows. 76 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: You so exactly. So I don't. 77 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: I don't. 78 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: I don't do that. 79 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: I try not to do that. 80 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: That is, I don't do meet and greets. I don't 81 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: do meet greets for years. 82 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: But I'm gonna tell you why I stop. I'm gonna 83 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: tell you exactly why I realized. I always love the people, 84 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 4: but I can't keep up the the energy to make 85 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: their experience good. 86 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: If I've just done a show hard, it's hard. 87 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 4: I tell people I've been doing this joke on stage, 88 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: Like imagine you just worked your full shift and then 89 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: you ready to go home, rub your feet together, and 90 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: instead of doing that, you gotta shake three hundred hands 91 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 4: and take. 92 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: Three hundred That's the perfect analogy. You'd be like, man 93 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: and then doing it before a show. 94 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't want to use all my energy 95 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 4: because the people pay to see me. 96 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: You want to give them that, So I can't manage it. 97 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: So I can only do meet if it's if that's 98 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:29,559 Speaker 3: the event. 99 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I know, okay, for two hours, three hours, 100 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: I can give you anything. Yeah, and after a show. 101 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 4: But I just say that because I don't. I'm not 102 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 4: perfect here thinking about my job that I don't like. 103 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: But that's really more because I don't want to disappoint 104 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: people that I don't like people. 105 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: I love people. I wouldn't be where I am, wouldn't. 106 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: Be sitting here without the people, for sure, but I 107 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 4: don't want them to be like man, he was kind 108 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: of like he was tired, because I'm I am tired, 109 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 4: and I likely flew overnight to do this, Like here, 110 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 4: I took a red out last night. 111 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: Did you sweep it on plane? Ain't real? 112 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: It's not real. 113 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 3: It ain't real. I ain't got no private with everybody else, 114 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: so that ain't no bad. It is not. So I 115 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: just wanted to I'm not perfect, y'all. Don't don't. Don't 116 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: do that to me. 117 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: Nobody is perfect. 118 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 2: But you know what, I think comedians are in people's 119 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: eyes somewhat don't have a They think you don't have 120 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: a bad day, or they think that things is like 121 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: they want you to be on all the time. What 122 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 2: kind of pressure does that put on you when you 123 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: feel like man like I'm really tired or I'm just 124 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: having a day. 125 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: But they won't make me laugh. 126 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: I don't respond well to make me laugh or tell 127 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: me a joke. I am not a clown. You don't 128 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 4: see no red. No, you come to see me work. 129 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: I give you my show. But people are often surprised. 130 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: They'll be like, Liz, I bet you has you cracking 131 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: up at home all the time? 132 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: No, not really, because at home I don't be like 133 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: Lizen tell me about the time. So it's like I 134 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: got to take the trash out watching Love Overboard, like 135 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: I got to perform for her. But my wife, yeah 136 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: and she you know my kids, I ain't funny to 137 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: them no more anyway, you know. 138 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: Tony Beaker or Tony Beker, Patrick Cloud. 139 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 4: But like I imagine, you know, like I take the 140 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 4: approach that once I leave my house, I am on. Yes, 141 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: So if I try to have good energy with anybody 142 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 4: at me, but at home. 143 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: I'd be at the house. 144 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: It's a recharge. 145 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: I recharged. 146 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 4: I enjoyed my home, I enjoyed my family. I enjoy 147 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: just chilling watching YouTube. I'm not like trying jokes out 148 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 4: on my family. I mean, I'm funny, but I'm not 149 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 4: like performative fun exactly that. 150 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: I love that. 151 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: I love that. 152 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: When did you realize that you were funny? 153 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: Very early? 154 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 4: I remember very early and I, and not only did 155 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 4: I was funny. I realized there was a benefit to 156 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: being funny. 157 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: And it was very simple. After church, I must have 158 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: been like five. 159 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 4: Or six years old, I would mimic what happened in 160 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 4: church that day, and my grandma home was very stoneface. 161 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 3: In church was not like that. At home, my grandma. 162 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 4: Would be like, do sister Daniel shallcap or whatever Washington do? 163 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 4: And I realized when she let me do that, I 164 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: would like my bed at eight o'clock, it's eight fifteen, Like, if. 165 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: You do that thing, you can stay up. 166 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: So I immediately knew I could do something that made 167 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: people laugh and there was a value to it. Yes, 168 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: So I was like, oh, yeah, attention this, I can 169 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: do this. 170 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 171 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: So, and it's so interesting that I was just telling 172 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 4: somebody this. I realized what I do now is a 173 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 4: version of what I did as a kid. 174 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: Literally literally. 175 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: I remember we used to have like talent shows and 176 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: we would do you know, people sing or whatever. 177 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: I mean. 178 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 4: My brother would do like sketches in church, and we 179 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 4: would mix like we did a David and Alive sketch 180 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 4: and I was Goliath and he was David. 181 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: You though, my older brother and. 182 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: I did like we were like we should do mc 183 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: hammer can't touch this, and then you sling shot me. 184 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 4: So I was like mixing hip hop and R and 185 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: B into church even at like seven, like I was 186 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: always aware of what was and he in the world 187 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: and always current and Hammer was like it might have 188 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: been ninety two, so I must have been nine whatever. 189 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 4: Hammer was at his like apex. Yes, So I realized 190 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: it's that's what I do now on the Internet and 191 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: my shows or whatever. It's like a version of that. 192 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: And I've just been thinking about how much God puts 193 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 4: in people very young, like I just did, uh, do 194 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: you know Luke. 195 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: Luke Tilmeny's little kid. He was on Jenifferunson Show. 196 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly, show all the fun that he. 197 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: Does he does preaching it out. Yes, So we did. 198 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 4: American Idol invited us last night and he was like 199 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 4: the co host, Crystal, there's a we in a set 200 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: with you. You've been on movies like three four hundred, 201 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: five hundred people. We're live on American idol. He preaching 202 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: on Q, praying on Q, singing on Q. He's like 203 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 4: seven eight years old. And I told my wife, I said, oh, 204 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 4: God put that in him early. And thankfully for him, 205 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: his family is nurturing the gift because I think a 206 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 4: lot of times our gift is there, but it's not 207 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 4: always nurtured by our family. And sometimes it's not because 208 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: they don't see it. Yeah, sometimes they just can't. Yes, 209 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But what a gift to 210 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: have a family and a way to nurture your gift 211 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: from seven eight years old. 212 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: This is a little kid on Instagram. He's like nine. 213 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: He's a fashion designer and his family has spent bread. Wow, 214 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: and he's cutting dresses and style and stuff, and it's like, 215 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 4: your gift is there. Yeah, he's a prodigy, but like 216 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: how many, especially Black people, we often aren't able to 217 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 4: express that at a young age because we don't have 218 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 4: access to the same resources freedom, even like auditions. 219 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: You kid in Hollywood, your parents. 220 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 4: I couldn't take Isay and them the audition everything by Yeah, 221 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 4: he's got to get some of these because I can 222 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: keep going up down to one on one. You ain't 223 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 4: booking gas is gas. I gotta leave work go to school. 224 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 4: Hey man, it's just regular now, you just kid kids 225 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: school ABC one two three. Because I can't do brother, 226 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 4: I can't be taken off work for you to you 227 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: maybe not gonna get it right. 228 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: And I love you. 229 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yea. 230 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: So so I just I think my family didn't push 231 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 4: my gift down. 232 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 233 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: And I had a place to express it, which, you know, interestingly, 234 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: interestingly enough was the Black Church. Yeah, and my church 235 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: was allowed us to be more than singers. 236 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: And musicians exactly. I was able to do acting and 237 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: other stuff in addition to singing. 238 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: So that was Turkey before Churchy. 239 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: That was Churchy before Churchy. That's why Churchy was so 240 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: easy for me to create because that was. 241 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 4: Like, that's shape that we hadn't done an episode that 242 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 4: wasn't directly from my life in somewhere. Those characters are 243 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: mother Jeene is based on my grandma, and my grandma's 244 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 4: name is Ruthie Gene. 245 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,359 Speaker 3: So like these people are just yeah. 246 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: And we resonate. I feel like I was just talking 247 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: to somebody. It's like it doesn't matter where you're from. 248 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 2: There are certain parts of the black culture that everybody 249 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: gets and church is one of. 250 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: Us that you understand. You have to be there, you. 251 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: Know, yes, totally said. 252 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: He talked about as a parent nurturing the gifts. You're 253 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: a father of two sons, how are you nurturing their gifts? 254 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: Now? You know? I think it's so interesting. 255 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 4: I have two kids who are so different you wouldn't 256 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: think they're related. So my oldest is they're both creative, 257 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 4: but they're in creative very different ways. My oldest is 258 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 4: behind the camera. He used to do stop motion videos. 259 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 4: He'll spend hours animating like on his iPad, creates storylines 260 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 4: on ww like. He's always creative writing. He acts too, 261 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 4: but his interest is always behind the camera, creating story 262 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: My youngest has zero those interests. But when you put 263 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 4: in front of microphone or camera, he just has something. 264 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 4: He has some spark. I mean when they were very 265 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: young and they were an awesome this TV and we 266 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 4: were getting paid five hundred dollars per sketch for me 267 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: to write, direct, edit, produce and share the bread with them, Wow, 268 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 4: my youngest would not be wanting to do it. My 269 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 4: oldest had the work ethic. He's just like yo, I'm 270 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 4: gonna be on time. I'm gonna do my job, whether 271 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 4: once or not. My youngest was like David Ruffin, like 272 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 4: I don't do I ain't doing this today, and now 273 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: I don't feel like it. And I remember telling the 274 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: people to it's like, hey, brother, I'm not finna deal 275 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: with with him. I ain't finna do this, and they 276 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: were like, you are because when the camera gets on him, 277 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 4: he just has something, I think, and he's super competitive 278 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: in that way. They're both athletic. But my youngest is 279 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 4: very competitive. My oldest isn't. So for my oldest, it's 280 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 4: like animation, subscriptions, here's my camera, you can do stop motion, 281 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: here's how you do that, here's how you edit. My 282 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: youngest is like, we'll do a podcast. We used to 283 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: do a podcast together. He was like, let's do one 284 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 4: episode and I was like, let's do six to eight 285 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 4: little season going and go ass. 286 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 3: He was like, let's just do one. But we shoot 287 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 3: videos together sometimes. 288 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: But I also don't put too much pressure on them 289 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 4: at this age because I still want them to do 290 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 4: it because they really love it. It's not like a desire. 291 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 4: I don't have to desire to like exploit them. I 292 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 4: wish I did. I wish I had like that. You know, 293 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 4: Matthew knows Joe Jackson, you know King Richard things now 294 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 4: we need that. We need them daddists and them mamas. 295 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 4: Are you getting the great if you watch the Olympics? 296 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: Them kids be like I low key hated by parents 297 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 4: because they made me do stuff I didn't want to 298 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 4: do because they saw greatness. 299 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: We're too nice of the kid. 300 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 4: Joe Jackson said, I got to y'all got to work. 301 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: Michael and them was at work at an adult club 302 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 4: at seven. You know, I'm like, oh, my son, I 303 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 4: love you mental health, mental health. He ain't gonna be 304 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 4: Michael Jackson because I didn't push him and any so 305 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: you know that whooping is bad, but also Michael Jackson's bad. 306 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: The album Hello, it all works together. 307 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 4: We ain't seen no level start with the loving gentle 308 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 4: pant all. I'm saying, I at love nobody into greatness yet. Listen, 309 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 4: we we've done cool, but we ain't love nobody healthily 310 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: into greatness because you've got to be a little crazy 311 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 4: to reach them levels. You know, you got to hate. 312 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 4: They hated Joe Jackson my life because I hate you. 313 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: Love ain't enough. I got to hate you to get 314 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: where I want to go. 315 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: Literally, that is so crazy because we talk about the 316 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: work ethic that we have from our generation to now, 317 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: we're like gods. They just like quit stuff and they're 318 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: just like fly by night. You like, you gotta stick 319 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: to something, you know, you gotta have some discipline, sure, 320 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: and they don't have it. 321 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: You know. 322 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 4: It's funny every generation says that about the next generation. 323 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: They said that about us, and I'm like, y'all, that's 324 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 4: not me. 325 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: No, it's not my group. Yeah, but it ain't it 326 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: ain't it. I'm at work, think about everybody, everybody working. 327 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: Everybody ain't working as hard as you know, even if 328 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: if you're millennials, ain't. 329 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 4: Working as hard as sister. 330 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: See what, some people just turn it in. They ain't 331 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: got no studio. You know, you you do it all. 332 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: So I think there's always standouts in for sure, average 333 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 4: people in any generation. 334 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: But I feel like we was Devin for sure. 335 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 4: We didn't even let me explain. That's the thing that 336 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't mind whooping for wrong. Like growing up, 337 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: I got whooped when I was right. And if you 338 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: would have just let me explain, you would have seen it. 339 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: Actually wasn't what you thought. 340 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 4: And then my parents find out later they ain't gonna 341 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 4: undo the whooping, and they ain't gonna say sorry, you 342 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: want something to eat? 343 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: No, no, I want you to listen. Okay, you have 344 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: to feed me. 345 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: If you would have just gave me three seconds, I 346 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 4: could have told you what happened. But no, no, not, 347 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 4: I got that little game. You wanted an apology. 348 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: I take the game, but I wanted the apology. 349 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: That is hilarious. 350 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: At what point did you realize that humor wasn't just 351 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: a way to get through life, but the way you 352 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: actually process life? 353 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: Because I feel like you kind of I'll watched. 354 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: You on your Instagram videos and you kind of talk 355 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: things through in a humorous way. 356 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: How do you do that? 357 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: I think I realized. 358 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: All the way back to medieval times, the court jester 359 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 4: was allowed to speak truth to power because. 360 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: It was lace with humor. 361 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: Yes, people can listen, are more open to listening if 362 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 4: you've made them laugh. Now, even let you get on 363 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: him a little bit if you're making them laugh. So 364 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: I think comedy definitely has a place in speaking truth 365 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: to power, right, Drew Ski. 366 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: Does a good job of this. 367 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 4: Yes, Like when he did the megachurch pastors thing. There's 368 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 4: people who were rightfully upset. Yeah, but at the same time, 369 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: the argument, you can't argue that he's coming up with 370 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: nothing of nowhere. 371 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: We see these videos. I've seen Zipline Pastor, I've seen. 372 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 4: Door Jacket, So he's able to make that video and 373 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 4: then people are like, well, let's talk about this because 374 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 4: it didn't come out of the thin air. It wouldn't 375 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 4: ring true if it came out of there. Their same 376 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 4: thing with the conservative video that he did. People are upset, 377 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 4: but I remember some of those clips where he did 378 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 4: it almost verbat him. Obviously he's adding humor to it 379 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 4: as well. But you think about George Carlin and Eddie Murphy. 380 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 4: Great comedians have always had the ability to speak true 381 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 4: to power, to speak to something larger and kind of 382 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 4: cover it with honey through jokes. And I think my 383 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 4: new Grief Suck Show is that ability for grief. I think, 384 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: you know, I had people die, but I never grieved 385 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: the way I grieve when I lost my brother. Yeah, 386 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: and I started just making videos. I didn't have a 387 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 4: desire or never thought I could even do stand up 388 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: about grief. But every video I made, which I wasn't 389 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 4: even necessarily being funny per se. I was just sharing 390 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: what I would. I mean, it was funny, but it's 391 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: not like funny haha. It's more like, oh my gosh, 392 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 4: more relatable funny. Yes, but I would see the comments 393 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: of like, oh my god, thank you. I thought I 394 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 4: was the only one things like that. And I think 395 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 4: this new show is my way of helping people through 396 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 4: grief and also helping myself through grief as well. And 397 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: I think it's to me, it's the best use of 398 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: my comedy that I've done. I think it's the I 399 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: wouldn't say my comedy's ever helped people process before. I 400 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 4: think I've made you laugh and made you forget about 401 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: your problems. That type of stuff, which also has its 402 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: place because the world sucks. 403 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: That's the next show. 404 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, the grief suns the world sun. 405 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 4: But you know, we all sit in our driveway after 406 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 4: a long day and we want something to just laugh at. 407 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 4: I definitely can do that. But I think with this show, 408 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 4: I'm able to help you process something that you're going 409 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 4: through or you will go through. Like that's the thing 410 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: about grief. If you're blessed to live a long life, 411 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 4: grief is inevitable. You won't live to seventy or eighty 412 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 4: without losing someone or something. Even though grief isn't all death, 413 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 4: like sometimes you grief friendships people who are alive and healthy, 414 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: and y'all just go separate ways, Like that's also a 415 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 4: grief the jobs you lost, all kinds of things. So 416 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: I think that's what humor is to me right now. 417 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: But at the same time, I always be able to 418 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 4: just make people. 419 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: Live in that you create the show. Grief sucks. Like 420 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: you said, death is something that we are all. 421 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 2: Nobody can escape it right right in that moment, How 422 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: did you How did you handle that before it turned 423 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: into humor? 424 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 4: The crazy thing it turned into humor instantly. Really, I 425 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 4: just think it's the way I see the world, like 426 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 4: you were saying, it is how I process things. 427 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 3: It's not the only way. 428 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, but jokes come to me the way I imagine 429 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: a fish naturally swims. It's like I actually have to 430 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 4: stop myself and be like, I don't know if it 431 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 4: might be too early, right, So I had a lot 432 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 4: of internal things that I'm noticing, not even putting them 433 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 4: in a place. But when I first kid you not 434 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 4: Crystal When I first saw my brother in the coffin 435 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: for the first time, my initial thought was this nigga 436 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 4: really in her dad? 437 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: No joke? I said, well, I can't say that, my grandma. 438 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: Right, like this, nigga, are you get up right? 439 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 4: Get out of these people's stuff which is not funny, 440 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 4: but like it's funny, you know. And I remember when 441 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 4: I was calling the funeral home. I spoke to this 442 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 4: lady for like ten minutes. I said, hey, you know, 443 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 4: because my first time planning a funeral, said hey, you know, 444 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 4: how do you get the body to actually said, my 445 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 4: name is Kevin, my brother passed aways my first time. 446 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 4: How do you get the body from the hospital to 447 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 4: the morgue? And if he wants to get buried somewhere else? 448 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 4: Do you guys handle this? How do you you know 449 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 4: who does an autopsy on the body? Answer all these questions? 450 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 4: And she said, wait, are you the body? I said, 451 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 4: love body, my brother's body. 452 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: Body can be the body if I'm talking to you. 453 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 4: If I'm the body that I'm talking about right now, Dad, 454 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 4: you should start praying. 455 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: Right because I could what that means for you if 456 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: the body is. 457 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 4: Making its own plans dead and a lot so I 458 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 4: made that video out of frustration and it went crazy. 459 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: People are like, I have struggled with that. I said, 460 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: I people in funeral homes to be good at their job. 461 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: If you had Chipota you forgetting my cheese, that's fine. Yeah, 462 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 3: if you don't know, you put the person that dead 463 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: is alive. The big problem is a big problem. 464 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 4: So so I think in that way, humor just iss. 465 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 4: It is my It's part of my process, but it's 466 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: not the only thing. I definitely cried and anger, frustration, 467 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 4: all the other parts of grief. 468 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: But I think humor is my mechanism for processing anything. 469 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: And I definitely have to like keep it at bay 470 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 4: sometimes to make sure because a lot of comedy is timing. 471 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: Sometimes you're too early. People like, hey, it ain't yeah, yeah. 472 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't exactly for sure. Grandma would have definitely like, X, 473 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: give me a minute exactly. 474 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, sold out shows, so greefus you've had 475 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 2: So how does that feel to know? 476 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 4: Then it's like, believe it or not. I am genuinely 477 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 4: surprised every single time a show. 478 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: So that's good. 479 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 4: I am like, because none of this is given right 480 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: and you got to stay relevant stay interesting. You can't 481 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 4: control the economy, gas prices, all these things people's. 482 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: And people's choices. 483 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 4: I can't control the things in your life. So to 484 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 4: convince enough people to spend ten dollars thirty dollars, just 485 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 4: start a ticket. And I'm well aware that it's never 486 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 4: just a ticket. Its ticket parking, babysitter, baby, dinner. Sometimes 487 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 4: you're flying or driving, so it's gas. Like a thirty 488 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 4: dollars ticket can cost you four five hundred. 489 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: Dollars off work. Yeah, yeah, everything I got to I 490 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 3: got to line. 491 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Uh, but. 492 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: It is genuinely surprising every time. For whatever reason, I 493 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 4: always think I'm going to fall off. 494 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 2: Really, you know, I feel like that may be like 495 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: a great place to kind of sit though, so like 496 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: it shows you like you're not in control. 497 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: Like so every time it's like, you know what you did? 498 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 3: That that's a good point. 499 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: I feel like we get too ahead of ourselves. 500 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's not a given, you know what, I 501 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 3: can come to. 502 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 4: Like Atlanta's the city I do well and pretty much 503 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 4: every time, but that sometimes they jumps out early. Sometimes 504 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: it's closer to the end, yeah, sometimes, you know. So 505 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 4: it's it's always a fear of mind to and I 506 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: don't sell out every show, and I make it pretty 507 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 4: obvious what I'm doing poorly because it's. 508 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: Just part of it. 509 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, the game. 510 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 4: But I am super grateful that people take their heart 511 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 4: earned money and give it to me to make them laugh. 512 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: For an I don't take that for granted. 513 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: It's really a blessing to me and a blessing in 514 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 4: them in the in the sense of like entertainment, but 515 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: it's not. 516 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 3: It's not guaranteed. You know. 517 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: We see artists, musicians, athletes, artists, entertainers canceling tours, canceling 518 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: shows because the ticket sales. 519 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's devastating, it is. You know, it's like, what 520 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: did I do? 521 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 4: I ain't funny no more, and it ain't to be 522 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 4: all marriad reason maybe you ain't funny no more, maybe 523 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 4: you ain't connecting. But yeah, it's also gonna be mad. 524 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 4: I ain't got no job, child support up? Yeahs up everything. 525 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: Flights or flights out Atlanta crazy right now? 526 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: Listen what is happening at down to Hartsville Jackson. 527 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: Flights is out with a straight face, down to twelve hundred. 528 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, when for the regular listen. 529 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: Twelve hundred dollars for regular seat. 530 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: Thy whole budget for this next business? 531 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 3: I said, what listen, I have a production coming up 532 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 3: next week. 533 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 4: I had to cut back the amount of cast that 534 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 4: I could fly because I'm like, I can't. We budgeted 535 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 4: fifty a flight. 536 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: And that's a lot. 537 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: That's a lot that should. 538 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: Be under every city in America for the most part, 539 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: if you're out far enough, that should be under budget. Yeah, 540 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 4: Atlanta was like twelve thirteen hundred dollars for main cabin CS. 541 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: Crazy. 542 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 4: I'm here in Atlanta by myself because I usually read 543 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 4: my team and it's like, at those prices. 544 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: I can't. 545 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: I can't afford to do. I got kids. I'm gonna 546 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: have two kids in college. 547 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: You know. 548 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 3: My son said, Look. 549 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 4: My son ordered STK on on Uber eats STK. He 550 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 4: said STK. I said, can you order that from me? 551 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 4: I said maybe McDonald's, Mike Chick fil A. Then he 552 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 4: gonna say. I said, okay, man, because I was ordering 553 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: it for myself, I said, how do you want your steak? 554 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 4: He said medium rare? I said medium rare? Why he 555 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 4: was like, you know, the time it travels from there 556 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,239 Speaker 4: to hear it cooks up to highlight it. 557 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: I said, I've ordered this before. 558 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 4: Hold up the time it travels. 559 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: How you even thinking? 560 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 4: And he said, if I want to reheat it and 561 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 4: then it'll be well, I can't have Well that man, 562 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: look at God, because I never even thought to do that. 563 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 4: That never even got to pick dinner. Really once for dinner, 564 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 4: that's not even a question. I got to ask Hamburger Helper, right, Annie, 565 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 4: shut up, it's one of the two gonna be in there, 566 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 4: spaghetti from Thursday on Tuesday. And that man said medium 567 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 4: rare because it finishes cooking while it sits. 568 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 3: Wow, serve, what a mighty guy. 569 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: What do you do? Listen? And that's what you do 570 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: it for so your son can order stk on. 571 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: And the funny thing about it is I said that 572 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: story because they both go to college and they want 573 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 4: to stay at home, and. 574 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: They're like, it probably feels good. 575 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 4: You know what, I ain't gonna hold you, Crystal. My 576 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 4: son went on a retreat. My son goes to private 577 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: Catholic school and they went on like a little retreat 578 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 4: that was like Christianity based, Like because it's a private 579 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 4: Catholic school, you don't have to go, but it's like 580 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 4: a tradition and he was he was sharing with us 581 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 4: when he came back. You know, we used to go 582 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 4: to like little revivals, team retreats. We used to come 583 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 4: back on fire for God, like I'm sorry God. I 584 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 4: was kissing before, I'm not gonna kiss no more. And 585 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 4: I did a little hunchy, but I ain't gonna hunch 586 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 4: at the last locker and I did touch that girl, 587 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 4: but she said I could because that was locker. Was 588 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 4: a little bit of sin how I was raised. But 589 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 4: after that retreat, that revival of that team revival, I 590 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 4: came back on fire. I spoke in tongues God, I'm 591 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 4: sorry for everything. So it was like the Catholic version 592 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 4: of that would know holy ghost in the sense that 593 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 4: we have. And he gave us the greatest compliment. He 594 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 4: was saying, like, you know, a lot of the kids 595 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 4: were sharing like their parents are abusive, or they are 596 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: you know, drunk or not in their life. And he 597 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: said when he said he never realized when it was 598 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 4: his turn, he was like, hey, my parents are. 599 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 3: Nice, they are. 600 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 4: You know, and he was like he didn't really like 601 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 4: He's like I knew I had good parents, but I 602 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 4: never because all these kids were holding all their stuff 603 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 4: in It was like a real like they were all 604 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 4: breaking down their walls and stuff. We had like a 605 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: little ceremony where all the kids talked about it. 606 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: They crying and stuff. It was crazy. And he was like, 607 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: I didn't realize. 608 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 4: How much I appreciated you guys and how easy my 609 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 4: life has been because of what you've done. 610 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: And you're not talking about money. 611 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: He's talking about love, respect, treating him well, not being abusive. 612 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 4: And he's like, I don't you guys haven't even Yeah, 613 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 4: I never even heard you guys yell at each other. 614 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 4: He's heard us argue, and I think there's a difference. 615 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 4: A lot of times parents try not to have any 616 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 4: conflict in front of the kids. 617 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 3: You got realize how to do everything exactly. You have 618 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: to teach them how to even have conflict safely. 619 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: I never cussed that melicitia. You never cussed me. I 620 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 4: never threw no play. I don't talk crazy, nurse, she 621 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 4: don't talk crazy to me. But we have had discussions, yes, amen, 622 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 4: in front of our kids, because that's also modeling that 623 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 4: behavior is. So that was the best compliment I was 624 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: telling my son. I checked with him a lot, like 625 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 4: how we doing his parents like, I don't want you 626 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 4: all to go therapy. And my oldest son said to 627 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 4: be like two days ago, He's like, you never noticed 628 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 4: how we always want to be at home. Wow, given 629 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 4: the choice to do other things, like we come home. 630 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 4: We didn't go away to college, even we be international, 631 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 4: like we prefer home. He was like, that's the proof 632 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 4: that you guys are doing a good job. 633 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: So I think that. I was like, will Smith to this, 634 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: because that's that's eighteen nineteen years of doing the right thing. 635 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 3: You can't you can't just turn it in. 636 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 4: Ain't no money gonna fix the like kids with money, 637 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 4: that money does not replace time. Like I had to 638 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 4: go to my son's games. Yes, them soccer games these 639 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 4: last two seasons. Them boys getting blown out on clubs. 640 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 4: We're paying thousand dollars to go. Got y'all get smacked 641 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 4: around in San Diego. Now I got to drive back. 642 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 4: You sleep right and musty, and I got to drive back, 643 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: windows down. 644 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: I can still smell you. Are your shoes off. Let's 645 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 3: just stop by this little Marry'll take you a little shout. 646 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 4: Let's spend the night. And I was asking myself. I 647 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 4: was like, he was like, I was like, have we 648 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 4: went to enough games. He was like, you guys have 649 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 4: been to games my whole life. We're going away games. 650 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 4: They getting smacked around in soccer, volleyball. His teams have 651 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 4: been losing a lot lately, but we being there, Yeah, 652 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 4: clapping it up because money doesn't replace that. 653 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: You can only earn that through time. And we have 654 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: spent the time with our. 655 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 4: Kids to earn their love and respect and all that 656 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 4: type of stuff. I think that might be one of 657 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 4: the things I'm most proud of, is like being a 658 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 4: good father to them. But if I can be honest, Christopher, 659 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 4: they hazel it. Sometimes I was a better father than 660 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 4: a husband, and I was a better father at the 661 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 4: expense of being a good husband without knowing, Yes, because 662 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 4: I didn't have my real dad in my life. Yeah, 663 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 4: so I remember early on like i'n I'm gonna rectify that. 664 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 4: But what that unchecked? 665 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: Unchecked? 666 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 4: I made my wife miss out on moments, right, Like, 667 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 4: for example, I travel a lot for work. She doesn't 668 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 4: travel that much. So when I travel for where she 669 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 4: stays at home. They might go to the movies, but 670 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: they don't do nothing. 671 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 3: Crazy. 672 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 4: I remember one time, this must have been like ten 673 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 4: years ago, because I've learned. It took a long time. 674 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: I learned eighteen years ago. She went out of town 675 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: for something. I immediately took the boys to Vegas father 676 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 4: son trip, Mando lay Bay just had a great weekend. 677 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 3: And she's like, why would you? We could have did 678 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:56,719 Speaker 3: that on any weekend. 679 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 4: Yes, And in my head, I'm not. I wasn't on purpose, 680 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 4: like excluding her. I was just doing things that I 681 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 4: thought I wish my dad had did for me. Got 682 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 4: our kids a PlayStation. My son's a PlayStation, terrible calf 683 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 4: with a good heart. We agree to get to a PlayStation. 684 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 4: We go give it to them together. She's getting her 685 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 4: hair done. I can't wait, I said, surprised. Send her 686 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 4: the video. I don't see no laughing emojis, no heart. 687 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 4: Why would you do that before I got home? Because 688 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 4: my real dad wasn't in my life. I didn't even know. 689 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 4: It took me going to therapy to realize. And here's 690 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 4: the other part. 691 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 3: It's dangerous. 692 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 4: If you don't think you're doing bad, you're not aware 693 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 4: of what it looks like to other people. Unchecked, you 694 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 4: can do. You can do hurt and harm with good intentions. 695 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 4: I just want to be a good father. But I realized, oh, 696 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: I'm I'm stealing moments from you to make sure I 697 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 4: have them. And my therapist, I remember, she was good. 698 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 4: I had a personal therapist, and we had a couple therapists, 699 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 4: and she was like, there's nothing wrong with what you're doing, 700 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 4: but if you're not doing it, if you don't even 701 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 4: know why you're doing it, you're trying to you're trying 702 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 4: to heal yourself, and your kids appreciate that, but you're 703 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,479 Speaker 4: doing at the expense of your wife. And I was like, 704 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 4: oh snap. But luckily for me, I was able to 705 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 4: stop that. You know, ten twelve years and two, and 706 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: it wasn't all the time. That was just like a 707 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 4: little period. It's like a little period. First ten years 708 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 4: we were broke, ain't no joy. We're doing everything together 709 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 4: because it's all free. Park picnic, zoo, museum, fairy we 710 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 4: were on a boat, y'all. Yes, because it was free. 711 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 4: We went to Canada, y'all, and we came right back. 712 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 4: You don't know that there was a day trip. We 713 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 4: took the pictures like it was a lot. We came 714 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 4: right back home. But there was a little period. We're 715 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 4: doing a little bit so I could do things, and 716 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 4: in that three to five year period, I did maybe 717 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 4: five ten things like that, and in my mind, I'm like, 718 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 4: I'm doing a good job. And Melissa had to tell me, like, yo, 719 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 4: you're like robbing me of these men. It's unfair. And 720 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, ego wise, I'm like nigga great father. She 721 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, but I want to be a great mother. 722 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 4: And more importantly, I would not do that to you, 723 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 4: and I have not done that to you, and I 724 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 4: actually have way more opportunities to do to do that 725 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 4: because you're gone, but I don't do you like that. 726 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 3: And I was like, dang. 727 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 4: So I say all that to say, like, it's so 728 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 4: important to be open to hearing from people, because I 729 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 4: could have went online and you know, my wife tripping 730 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 4: about this man, women could anybody, and I would have 731 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 4: got the and so I was looking for but it 732 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 4: wasn't the truth, because the truth is she was right 733 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 4: and I was wrong even trying to be right. 734 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that. 735 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: I love that, and I love you and Melissa, she 736 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 2: was supposed to come today. 737 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: Melissa, you know what, this is part of the thing. 738 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 4: She takes the the weight of safety and comfortability so 739 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 4: that I can do this because the boys, although nineteen 740 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 4: and seventeen, they want a parent around a lot. Remember 741 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 4: early touring, Melissa used tour with me and we had 742 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 4: like a babysitter and she would keep them for the weekend, 743 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 4: did this for full year. The second year, my youngest 744 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 4: was like, we had to go to therapy with him 745 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 4: because it was like affecting him. 746 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 3: And he was like, can at least one of you 747 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: guys be home? 748 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 4: And Melissa was like, I'm out, I am done. I 749 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 4: can do this to this. So that's why I would 750 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 4: say it's our dream because she is taking the weight 751 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 4: of missing out on things like this because she wanted 752 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 4: to come. But you know, it's my son's senior year. 753 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 4: He got soccer and driving and all that type of stuff. 754 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 4: And also she just wants to be able to cook 755 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 4: meals so they're not ordering out even though we have 756 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 4: access to those things. She wants to make sure they have, 757 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 4: like because they'll be like when coming home for the time, 758 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 4: y'all be gone, you know what I'm saying. Like they 759 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 4: love her real nick, you know what I'm saying. Even 760 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 4: though my oldiest want to know for us to be home, 761 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 4: for him to be out till three, four, five in 762 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 4: the morning, but he wants us to. 763 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: Be Oh, Christy, I remember you talking about that. 764 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 4: Oh never nothing. We go to the family dinner, get 765 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 4: home ten thirty. He's all right, see y'all later, what 766 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 4: are you doing to stay home? 767 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 3: Love us? 768 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 4: But she takes those moments so that I can do 769 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 4: this for myself, for us, and so the boys have 770 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 4: some semblance of tradition. 771 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 3: You know. 772 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 4: She doesn't do it all the time, but she does 773 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 4: it a lot of the times. So we're slowly easing 774 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 4: out of that as they are both be in college 775 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 4: this fall, and even though they'll be at home, it's like, okay, now, now, 776 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 4: hey you eighteen and twenty. 777 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: Yes, mama, I got to have a life. 778 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 4: I got to go down to keep it positive because 779 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be her armor bear when she comes down here. 780 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 4: But I love I love traveling with her, and she 781 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 4: comes a lot. But she also had and sometimes it's 782 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 4: just like she has her own podcasts, she has her 783 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 4: own things to shoot. That's something else I had to learn, Crystal. Yeah, 784 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 4: come on key, I wanted to kept a woman. I 785 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 4: did not realize it because I didn't have enough money 786 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 4: to keep her early. 787 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 3: She made more than me. I was kept, so I 788 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,479 Speaker 3: kept care. 789 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 4: I did not realize internally I always wanted to kept 790 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 4: a woman. Yeah, but I did not marry a kept woman. 791 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 4: I married a girl who was ambitious, independent, had her 792 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 4: own money, had her own job always, and I love 793 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 4: those qualities. 794 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 3: But low key. 795 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 4: I always when I started getting little bread, I'm like, 796 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 4: why you ain't got to work? What she had the 797 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 4: big cab have that little little aerospace job, Like, I 798 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 4: ain't got it. 799 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 3: You do what's going to work? 800 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 4: She liked her job, she was good at her job, 801 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 4: She had work friends, She enjoyed her own things, you 802 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 803 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 3: She had those things. 804 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 4: And I remember when she started her podcast way back 805 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 4: with her Homegirl. 806 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 3: I remember coming home off. 807 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 4: The road, want her to be at the door pod 808 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 4: roast because I'm a man and I'm went and sold 809 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 4: out these three shows. I want steak and potatoes on 810 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 4: the table when I get home. 811 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 3: I came home. 812 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 4: This girl ain't ain't no fool. I don't spell nothing 813 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 4: but but but recording equipment Henson. She in the back 814 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 4: room shooting her podcast. I said, I want potatoes, and. 815 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: Your life is your life. My life is my life. 816 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 3: And then there's our life. 817 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 4: I can't dominate your life and make you do everything 818 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 4: that I want to do, because then you have no life, 819 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 4: and it's unfair to impress my hopes. 820 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 3: Dreams for you. I have to work within what you 821 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 3: want for your own life because you you've you've. 822 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 4: We've committed ourselves to each other, but not our entire 823 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 4: everything like you you know, I don't. And and and 824 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 4: resentment is one of the key tendants to divorce. Yes, 825 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 4: like and resentment is small, It's in the back, and 826 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 4: it gnaws on you. 827 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 3: It's like an erosion thing. 828 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 4: It's like he gets to do his thing. I can't 829 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 4: do my thing. I'm always with the kids. You hearing 830 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 4: them Michelle Obama, Like you always get little things like 831 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 4: you go to gym whenever you want, you know, things 832 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 4: like that. So I had to realize I'm trying to 833 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 4: craft her into the perfect woman for me and not 834 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 4: allowing her to be the woman who lives her own life. 835 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 4: And that means sometimes she's not going to come with me. 836 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 4: Sometimes she won't be at my show. I was holding 837 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 4: her to a low ki crystal, and I'm talking a lot. 838 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: I love it. 839 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 3: Therapy made me realize I was. 840 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 4: Trying to replace my childhood where my parents weren't there 841 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 4: with my wife in my adult life. Yes, I want 842 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 4: because Loki, my Melissa as my girlfriend, went to more 843 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 4: basketball games in my high school last two years than 844 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 4: anybody in my family. My parents were at work or 845 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 4: they just didn't come, you know, my brother's sister. 846 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: At school doing their own thing. But Melissa was in there. 847 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I look into the crowd, I'm seeing her 848 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 4: and it stands. So now I want you to be 849 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 4: at every show. And she was like I heard these jokes, 850 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 4: like She's like, I don't want to always like I 851 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 4: got stuff to do, you know what I'm saying. So 852 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 4: I had to again in therapy I found out I said, 853 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 4: I'm putting an unfair wait on you to. 854 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 3: Be my mom and dad and my real dad. 855 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 4: You a fully realize adult who has her own idea 856 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 4: of what that day should look like. So that sometimes 857 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 4: means that she's not there. So I appreciate her more 858 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 4: when she is there, and and sometimes she has her 859 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 4: own thing and I support her, you know what I mean. 860 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 3: She gets booked to speak or whatever, I'll come out 861 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 3: to her her social media. I'm her armor bearer. But 862 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 3: I can't be. I can't. 863 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 4: I can't require that for her, for me, for everything 864 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 4: right and have her be happy. 865 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly that. 866 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 2: I love that, and I love that you all were 867 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: able to communicate, even from parenting to relationship with what 868 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: you need as individuals. 869 00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: That is so important. 870 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty two years married, it'll be twenty two years 871 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 4: in Jane. 872 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty seven years told? Is that correct? Yeah? We 873 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 3: started doing no twenty six years told. I'm sorry. 874 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 1: Wow. 875 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 4: And in that time she's changed, and I've changed every 876 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 4: two or three years. 877 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 2: Let's talk about evolution, like, oh my god, because people 878 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: thinking who are you now? 879 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: Like you're gonna continue to evolve? 880 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 3: Think about it like who you were at sixteen? What 881 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 3: you knew, what you thought you? Yeah, right, that's where 882 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 3: we started. 883 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 4: We didn't even know what we didn't know, ain't paid 884 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 4: a bill, I know how to be on my own. 885 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, right, sixteen? 886 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 4: So at sixteen living in their parents' house, no car, 887 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 4: no job, full time job, no responsibilities, college Melissa, And 888 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 4: these are just the big ones. 889 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 3: These are not the small things. I'm just talking about. 890 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 4: When I first met her, she just finished puberty. Who 891 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 4: were three years prior I met her? At sixteen puberty 892 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 4: what twelve thirteen. 893 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 3: Maybe up to fifteen sixteen? 894 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, still growing, not even as tall as she's supposed 895 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 4: to be. Sixteen eighteen, we're in college. We get married 896 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 4: after our junior year of college. Wow. So now this 897 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 4: is married Melissa, right, who is a church girl who 898 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 4: only knows purity culture and what her mom taught her 899 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 4: and what her pastors in first lead said, she hasn't 900 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 4: you know at that age, we haven't had our own thoughts. 901 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 4: These are just the thoughts that were impressed upon us. 902 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 4: Then there's out of college Melissa, but married right. I 903 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 4: was the first person she lived with that wasn't you 904 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 4: know related to she was virgin. We got married first 905 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 4: pen only pen amen, amen, shout out right. Now now 906 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 4: there's Melissa the mother, right, we get she gets pregnant. 907 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 4: We're twenty three the mother now, mind you, Melissa was 908 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 4: a very career oriented woman. 909 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 3: I won't say that she didn't wantkids. 910 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 4: Because it wasn't that, but yeah, her dreams were like 911 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 4: I want to go on Wall Street. I want to 912 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 4: wear pencil skirt, have a briefcase, Like I want to 913 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 4: be a lawyer, want to be a banker. 914 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 3: So now she's a mother. So now she's realized, oh 915 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 3: d my desires are changing. 916 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 4: Now I desire to be a mother, like it's important 917 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 4: for me to, you know, scrap book things like that. 918 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 3: So zero kids, one kid's big change. One kid to 919 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 3: two kids, big change. Her parents got divorced. 920 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 4: That had a tremendous impact on us, on her because 921 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 4: she idolized that relationship. So now if my parents got divorced, 922 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 4: well that means anybody can get divorced. 923 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 3: R my parents, who were both saved in the church, 924 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 3: they got divorced. 925 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, easily, Kevin and I can get divorced. 926 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 2: That wasn't a thought, right now that's the reality that 927 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 2: it could. 928 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 3: Yes. 929 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 4: Then there's Kevin, the husband who I had always had 930 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 4: a job, kept a job. 931 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 3: That's one of the things she loved about me. 932 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 4: Now Kevin wants to be something more or I don't 933 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 4: really know how to do that, so I end up 934 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 4: getting fired. 935 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 3: So now wait, hold up, you fired? 936 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 4: And then I'm telling her, low key, I kind of 937 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 4: want to do comedy for a living right from Tacoma. 938 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 4: That ain't even possible, right, like, and it really wasn't 939 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 4: to her credit, I believe. 940 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 3: So now you got to stay at home husband. Yeah, 941 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 3: and with a huge ego that she was careful to manage. 942 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 4: You know then I you know, I'm telling her I 943 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 4: want to move to La. 944 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 3: Later. 945 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 4: Then there's Melissa, the new family in LA with no bread. 946 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,399 Speaker 4: We both worked at boring part of that when kids 947 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 4: were in private school. There was eight kids in my 948 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 4: son's school and iPads like we were killing it, both 949 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 4: making sixty grand a year to us. We over one 950 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 4: hundred grand as a household. Broke boy talking about these planes. 951 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 4: We with the plane. 952 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 3: People, we out here with the plane. You feel me. 953 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 3: I gotta badge into my job. You just walking here. 954 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 3: He's a walker. I got a five. 955 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 4: I got a bad Listen had government clearance at her job, 956 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 4: security clearance. So that was a vision fresh and La, 957 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,720 Speaker 4: no money, married to a dreamer, and it ain't clicking 958 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 4: right now. 959 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 3: I'm owe me twenty five dollars for acting. 960 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: I need that run it. 961 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 3: I need that twenty five. You said Friday, which is Friday. 962 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 3: I don't got no gas. Where's the twenty five? 963 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: Which is why you pay people on time today? 964 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 4: This is why I don't want nobody patting their pockets 965 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 4: for me. 966 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 3: And here's the thing, I'm struggling because my company's growing. 967 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 4: I always pay people on time because I was selling 968 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 4: them cash up and them my finance team business managers. 969 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 3: Like stop, hey man, you can't do that. 970 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 4: No, But the thing is they're they're growing and big 971 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 4: company running payroll. There's things out of my control. But 972 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 4: if they go on TikTok, they're not gonna say Kev's 973 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 4: finance team transpots a number. It's gonna be keV on stage. 974 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,760 Speaker 3: Pay me. But that parts now. 975 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: Out of my control because you're a business. 976 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 3: Because now I'm a business, and I don't I don't 977 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 3: want to get out of it. Yeah, you know. 978 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 4: My exactess manager was like, it's not a if you 979 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 4: get out of it when it's when, yeah, and what 980 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 4: the penalty is going to be. 981 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 3: So now I can't like my toes are like this 982 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 3: because this person's check is late. 983 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 4: Because I remember twenty five, like I literally know. My 984 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 4: kids are like, where's wet? No pre seilings, and I'm 985 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 4: like that twenty five is supposed to be here today. 986 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 4: I was going to get there suons. I had, y'all, 987 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 4: but they didn't get me my twenty five, you know, 988 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 4: And it was never that bad, but it was closed, 989 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 4: like I need all my bread and still. 990 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 3: Nothing can be leid. So there's keV at that point. 991 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 4: Then there's keV at All Deaf, And then there's a 992 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 4: realization that when we started working together in this part 993 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 4: of the pandemic, she enjoyed her job. When I worked 994 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 4: at All Deaf and she worked at her aerospace company, 995 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 4: we could come home and. 996 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 3: Talk about our days. Yes, when we work together, we're 997 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 3: having the same day. 998 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:58,959 Speaker 1: It's nothing to talk about. 999 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 4: There's so now we're like, hey, why we ain't really 1000 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 4: connect him because we've been in the house all day 1001 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 4: and that's just you know, the pandemic exacerbates that to 1002 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 4: the nth degree, Like okay, it's not even on the road. Yeah, 1003 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 4: why is he going in this office and closing the 1004 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,720 Speaker 4: door and watching TV? 1005 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 3: And the boys are in their room watching TV. And 1006 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 3: we didn't realize. 1007 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 4: And she used to go get her hair done and 1008 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 4: get her nails done and stuff like that, and she realized, Oh, 1009 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,439 Speaker 4: that was my me time. 1010 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 3: Now we don't have that. 1011 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, why do I feel weird that we're at home? 1012 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 4: We don't feel like we're at home. So I say, 1013 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 4: it's like I had a cell phone, you know, you 1014 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 4: probably did for twenty years. Think about the cell phone 1015 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 4: you had, your first Nokia properly yep, with the little snake, 1016 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,959 Speaker 4: And think about the iPhone you have probably right now. 1017 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 4: Imagine if you went from that phone to the iPhone 1018 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 4: with nothing in between. Wow, And that's what happens in marriage. Yeah, 1019 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 4: you gotta every phone, every update, You gotta learn this 1020 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 4: new and just iPhone enough headphone jack o, dang, I 1021 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 4: ain't got that, and I gotta get air pods. Now 1022 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 4: I gotta charge this now this thing used to not 1023 00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 4: be there, but from the Nokia Snake when. 1024 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 3: We used to out of dating to the iPhone seventeen. 1025 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, if I wasn't up to date on every and 1026 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 4: think about how little the changes feel at the. 1027 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 3: Time, it's just like, oh, dang, man, Yeah. 1028 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 4: I used to be we used to take pictures. They 1029 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 4: used to be grainy, all that stuff. Now you can shoot. 1030 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 4: There's a new app you can do a shot recorder. 1031 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 2: I just saw that black owed to man. I saw 1032 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 2: that that didn't exist, yeah. 1033 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 3: Two weeks ago. Right. 1034 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 4: So that's what I use as an example, is like 1035 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 4: being married is like being up to date on your 1036 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 4: cell phone at all. Reading the terms of conditions learning 1037 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 4: how to use it at all times. You can't skip 1038 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 4: two or three phones. You definitely can't skip five or 1039 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 4: ten years. And a lot of times I think what 1040 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 4: happens to people don't realize they haven't been paying attention. 1041 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,320 Speaker 4: And that's how I think. You look at a person 1042 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,280 Speaker 4: you recognize. I recognize the cell phone, but I actually 1043 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 4: don't know how to use it. Yeah, it's like, this 1044 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 4: is not an Android disc But but one time I 1045 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 4: did a gig and they gave me a free Android 1046 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,120 Speaker 4: like a phone to use, and I couldn't. It's not 1047 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 4: that I couldn't use it, but it just felt so 1048 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 4: foreign because I haven't had an Android in years, and 1049 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 4: I was like, wow, this feels really uncomfortable. But this 1050 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 4: feels like a phone. I know what a phone looks like, 1051 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 4: but I can't. 1052 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 3: How do you call it? How do you text? 1053 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,240 Speaker 4: I said, I can't do that, and I imagine Android 1054 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 4: iPhone the same thing. I'm not dissing, y'all. I don't 1055 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 4: dis no more because my Android app uses and they 1056 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 4: don't play listen. But I feel like that's what happens 1057 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 4: in a relationship. It just feels starts to feel foreign 1058 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 4: even though it looks familiar. 1059 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh I killed that. 1060 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: You did, y'all give it? 1061 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 3: Clip it. 1062 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,879 Speaker 1: That was so good. That's a whole teaser right there. 1063 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 4: But I think people say marriage is work. They think 1064 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 4: it means like hard. I hate It's not that. It's 1065 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 4: just like it's like gardening. Yes, you got to go 1066 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 4: out there until it and water it, protect it from 1067 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 4: the sun. You gotta nurture it. And that's the work. 1068 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 4: It's not. It's not like breaking rocks. But it's also 1069 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 4: you can't leave a garden unattended for weeks and months 1070 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 4: and expected. 1071 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 3: To bear good fruit. You have to pay it. 1072 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 4: Good gardeners are out there every day, pulling bugs off, 1073 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,240 Speaker 4: whatever it takes to make sure this is always bearing 1074 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 4: good fruit. And that marriage is like a continual garden. 1075 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 4: It's like working out and eating right. 1076 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 3: You can't. 1077 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 4: If you stop working out and eating right, the work 1078 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 4: also stops. You start getting back. It's the same thing. 1079 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 3: But I enjoy the fruit of this work, so. 1080 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 4: I don't mind doing it because although it's hard and 1081 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 4: you know, you know, tough, the benefits are amazing. 1082 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 3: I can't imagine. 1083 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 4: I can't imagine trying to date right now, but what 1084 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 4: I see from people. 1085 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 3: It looks like the Thriller music video. That's what y'all. 1086 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 3: The way y'all talk you talk about. I mean, it 1087 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 3: seems scary out there. 1088 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 4: I don't it's like zombie apocalypse, Like I don't want 1089 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 4: to be out there with y'all. 1090 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 3: I like my house, you're. 1091 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: Gonna be running back. 1092 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm coming on. 1093 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: This has been amazing. Seriously, we gotta do this more often. 1094 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,399 Speaker 4: Melissa this Yeah, Melissa for sure wants to come back. 1095 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 4: We'll be back in Atlanta two or three times in 1096 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 4: this month. Okay, so to have her next time, we can, 1097 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,919 Speaker 4: but thank you so much. 1098 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 1099 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 4: Also, let me give you your flowers while we're here. 1100 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 4: You are so talented as a as a person. You 1101 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 4: read that Bible on your Instagram stories. You either really 1102 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 4: read it or you spend so much time thinking you 1103 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:33,879 Speaker 4: might as. 1104 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 3: Well have read read you. You're so photogenic and fashion forward. 1105 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 4: I'd be like your pos is being listen look, and 1106 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 4: she'd be like that, Crystal Rene done it again. 1107 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 3: She went down to Paris and she did it again. 1108 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 4: But more importantly, your personality and your spirit is as 1109 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 4: warm as you come across on screen in person, just 1110 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 4: like you said about me, it's true about you. Sometimes 1111 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 4: that is a facade. Sometimes the actor is is acting 1112 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 4: all the other time and Christal Renee is the character. 1113 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,399 Speaker 3: But you have the same character from the moment I. 1114 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 4: Met you at t s U to BT when you 1115 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 4: thought I said you was eating ham, I. 1116 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 1: Said, you said, I said Lamb. I said, yeah, the 1117 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: precious Lamb. 1118 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 3: But I love the community you built. 1119 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 4: I love this this uh, this this podcast, and I 1120 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 4: know that there's this. You created a space for women 1121 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 4: who need it, people who need it, and your team 1122 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 4: has been amazing as well. Everybody was very kind, and 1123 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:38,760 Speaker 4: it's it's You're just great. 1124 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. 1125 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,439 Speaker 1: That means a lot coming from you. 1126 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. 1127 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 2: Before we leave, is there anything that our community can 1128 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 2: support you on. 1129 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 3: Yes, that we got coming up. 1130 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 4: There's no dates yet, but just follow me kem on stage. 1131 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 4: Everything I can talk about or I want to tell 1132 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 4: you about, just follow me out. 1133 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,760 Speaker 3: I'll talk about it. Greef Sucks. 1134 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 4: Larger tour coming this summer into the fall. Watch me 1135 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 4: on to B. I've got some stuff on to B 1136 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 4: that's out and some more will be coming out soon. 1137 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 4: I don't know the day, so I don't want to 1138 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 4: you know, just follow me, yes, Kep on stage. If 1139 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 4: you follow me, you'll you'll I'll be able to tell you. 1140 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 2: Okay, awesome, thank you so much before we get out 1141 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 2: of here. Are thinking for this season, we're leaning more 1142 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 2: into being unapologetic. So I want to know what is 1143 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 2: keV being unapologetic about in this season of his life. 1144 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great question. 1145 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 4: I am being unapologetically mean, and I think that means 1146 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 4: I am finally accepting that you might not like me 1147 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 4: or what I say. And I'm okay with that because 1148 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 4: earlier in my life and earlier my content career career, 1149 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 4: I was I was trying to make every single person 1150 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 4: happy and that was not. 1151 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,359 Speaker 3: Entertainable thing. 1152 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 4: So now I am realizing to be myself, I have 1153 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 4: to accept that some people won't like that, and they'll 1154 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 4: vocalize that, and they'll thread about it and tweet about 1155 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 4: it and TikTok about it. And also, like, at my 1156 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 4: level of awareness, it's advantageous for people to talk about 1157 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 4: me negatively because your video or your thread or tweet 1158 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 4: or podcasts it will often do well. I don't like that. 1159 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 4: I really hate that, but there's nothing I can do 1160 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 4: about that. And I certainly won't try to appease millions 1161 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 4: of people because that have millions of followers who actually 1162 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 4: like me, multiple millions of people who don't follow me 1163 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 4: and may not like me, So I can't control all 1164 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 4: those variable I think it comes from a control. And 1165 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,439 Speaker 4: as a comedian, if you have a thousand people laughing 1166 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 4: but to not laughing, you focus on those two. 1167 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 3: You perform live, you want to hit everybody. Yes I'm 1168 00:54:59,360 --> 00:54:59,959 Speaker 3: killing right. 1169 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 4: Now, and you just can't do that, and you'll be 1170 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 4: racking your brain trying to. So I be having to 1171 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,839 Speaker 4: be quiet, and you know, meaningless. Have realized the other 1172 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,399 Speaker 4: week this phrase that we came up with, like not 1173 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 4: saying anything is not the same as having nothing to say. 1174 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 3: I often choose not to say. 1175 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: That's good. 1176 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 4: Sometimes I just don't say anything because I know if 1177 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 4: I address a thing, it's just gonna magnify it. 1178 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 1: Can't give everything energy. 1179 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 4: Don't mean it, don't mean I aven't seeing it, don't 1180 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 4: mean I don't have thoughts. But my thoughts are for 1181 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 4: my family and friends and maybe sometimes even my actual 1182 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 4: audience who cares. But I'm also not gonna give negativity 1183 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 4: what they want, which is more visibility. You're gonna die 1184 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 4: on that vine. I'm not gonna tell that guarded. Yes, 1185 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 4: you're gonna have to You're gonna have to keep the 1186 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 4: hate training. I ain't gonna help you talk about me, 1187 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 4: absolutely not. 1188 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 3: Thank you very much so much. 1189 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 2: You know what says with me from this conversation is 1190 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 2: a reminder that growth doesn't always look like clarity. Sometimes 1191 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,720 Speaker 2: it looks like showing up honestly, even while you're still processing. Kevin, 1192 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 2: want to thank you for your honesty, your perspective, and 1193 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 2: willingness to hold both humor and heaviness at the same time, 1194 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,399 Speaker 2: because sometimes healing isn't about having the right words, It's 1195 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,760 Speaker 2: about being present. 1196 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 1: Being real, and align yourself to keep going. Thank you 1197 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. Be sure to subscribe, share this. 1198 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 2: Episode with someone who needs it, and if you ever 1199 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,839 Speaker 2: need advice, positivity, or want to share what you're going through, 1200 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 2: email us at Keep it Positive Outcomes at gmail dot com. 1201 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 1: It's always stay blessed, stay encouraged, and keep you positive. 1202 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 2: Dy. 1203 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,399 Speaker 1: I'll see you guys next time.