1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: kicks off right now. Appreciate you rollin' with us. We 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: have a very stacked show today, no surprise, it's going 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: to be getting very busy day in and day out as 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: we enter this presidential election. Cycled Also some interesting polling 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: out that we can get to in a moment. Eighteen percent. 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: This is from Gallup. Eighteen percent of Americans are satisfied 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: with the state of the nation. 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: Now, you might say, well, are. 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: People always a little curmudgeonly and salty about the state 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: of the nation. Well, it's usually about thirty five percent 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: of people are satisfied, So that's a substantial drop. 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: Hmmm. 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: You mean Joe Biden and the lunatic communists around him 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: are doing things that make people less prosperous, safe, happy, 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: and sane. Yes, we tell you about this. We can 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: come back to it though in a second. Obviously, the 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: House about to vote on the debt limit bill. Has 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: that happened just quite yet. I think it's any It's 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: gonna be happening shortly. Here so we'll check the latest 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: on that. Ron DeSantis kicked off his campaign with a 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: stop in Iowa. The Trump DeSantis throwdown is getting, shall we. 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: Say, more heated, more interesting. Donald Trump. 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: Also, those of you who are very online, as in 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: spend time on Twitter probably saw and some of you 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: might have even seen it on Facebook or other places. 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: Trump had some comments about his former Press secretary, Kaylee Mcanenny, 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: who's a friend of mine, a friend of Clay's. We 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: will discuss what the former president's truth social post was 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: all about. 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: That'll be coming up. 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: There's some interesting a lot of interesting stuff, even I 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: think interesting stuff going on in the sports world right 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: now with the Dodgers and now a Toronto Blue Jays 37 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: player making the requisite I'm sorry I offended the Wokeness 38 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: hostage video. 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Clay will lay some of that out for some of 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: that out for us. 41 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: We've got a political development that I want to dive 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: into here in a second. 43 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: But first, Clay, I. 44 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: Don't know how many of you remember the movie road Trip, 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: but there's a whole scene with what was that comedian's 46 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: name where he says was it Tom Green? 47 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: Is that right? Tom Green? 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: And he says he's going to unleash the fury. Clay 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: just gotta. Clay just put out a tweet and I 50 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: was like, Clay, are you unleashing the fury with a tweet. 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: About something happening at ESPN? What happened? Clay? 52 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: What's going on? And we can we want to return 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: to this in a little a little later. 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, next hour, I'm going to dive into this in 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: a big way. But tomorrow is Pride Month, and you 56 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: all know that. I mean, it is the day of 57 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: the year, and that's not meant as an insult. June 58 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: first is the gayest day of the year, where everybody 59 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: is bedecked in Pride flags and u and it is 60 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: impossible to mis gat a mistake the entire month. Many 61 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: people have pointed out that we get one day to 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 3: celebrate those who have died serving our country, we get 63 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: a full month to celebrate gay people. That obviously always 64 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 3: happens with Memorial Day coming in close consult with June. 65 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: First, so ESPN. 66 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: So there's evident I had to do research on this, Buck, 67 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: and I don't know if you are aware of this. Traditionally, 68 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: the Pride flag is just a rainbow, right, yes, because 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: the rainbow in theory would represent all colors. They have 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: now modified the rainbow because the rainbow was not inclusive 71 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: enough and they now have like some sort of like arrow. 72 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: That is a transflag trans flag. 73 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: Well they consider to be the trends, Like, Oh, I 74 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: study leftism constantly. 75 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: I know they've changed this one. 76 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: But isn't it fascinating because this isn't the whole point 77 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: of the rainbow that it is all the colors, literally 78 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: every The whole point. 79 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: Is that it's supposed to be everything. 80 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, there literally could not be anyone not incorporated in 81 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 3: the rainbow flag, which was the entire purpose of the rainbow, 82 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: which now has been taken over by gay people. 83 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: I don't this happened. In conversation recently. 84 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: One of my kids said, uh, you know, every time 85 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: I see an actual rainbow, I think now about the 86 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: gay pride flag because the gay community has so taken 87 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 3: over the rainbow. 88 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: You haven't, though, unleash the furious so to speak on 89 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: Twitter by breaking some news and then seeing all the 90 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: reaction to it. 91 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: What's going on? 92 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: So this year ESPN is not just raising the gay flag. 93 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: I am told this is the first year that they 94 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: will be raising the transgender gay flag. Now, some of 95 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: you out there may say, Okay, what's the significance here. 96 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: ESPN right now is foremost in advocating for men who 97 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: identify as women to be able to participate in women's athletics, 98 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: and in fact, ESPN ran and I believe we played 99 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: it on this show an advertisement Buck calling Leah Thomas 100 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 3: one of the women's sports heroes of the year. This 101 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 3: is a dude who was around the four hundredth best 102 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: college men swimmer, who became the best women swimmer, and 103 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: I believe the five hundred meter if I remember correctly 104 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: set the NCAA championship this past March. So they have 105 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: had a few brave people who have spoken out Sam Ponder, 106 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: who some of you may know Sage Steele. Two women 107 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: have come out and said this is ridiculous. I'm not 108 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: going to allow this to happen anymore without speaking out 109 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: on it. So this feels Buck like a direct show 110 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: back at those women. Sam Ponder what was called a 111 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 3: bigot by USA today for advocating for women's sports to 112 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: only be a part of women. So they are now 113 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: having a public flag raising of the transgender flag over 114 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: the Bristol, Connecticut campus of ESPN, as many of their 115 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: female employees who are speaking out are being called bigots 116 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: and transphobes, and so this feels like a direct corporate 117 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 3: shot at those employees who are speaking out on behalf 118 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: of women's athletics. 119 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: It strikes me, Clay that it is entirely now because 120 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: of a Supreme Court decision some years ago, legal to 121 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: burn the American flag as a form of speech. But 122 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: I have seen numerous stories recently of people not even 123 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: necessarily damaging a flag. But let's say, wasn't there someone 124 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: who I think left tire skid marks on a Pride 125 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: mural or something ye in the street, and that's a 126 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: hate crime. But burning, So if you burn a Pride flag, 127 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: if you own the flag, that is criminal. But if 128 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: you burn an American flag that has protected speech, do 129 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: I have that right? Because that's the way it seems. 130 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: I think it has not gone to the Supreme Court. 131 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: And so there are states that are prosecuting to your 132 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: what I'm saying right now, there are places where you 133 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: could so you can be prosecuted for burning it. I 134 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: just want every to be clear on this, because there 135 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: are cases people are prosecuted for burning a Pride flag. 136 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: You will not be prosecuted for burning an American flag. 137 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: In fact, the left will tell you that's the highest 138 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: form of patriotism. 139 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think in our staff can correct me 140 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: if I'm wrong on this. But I believe, and this 141 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: sounds like a made up hypothetical story that would be 142 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: in a law school exam. I believe a homeless man 143 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: they are now called unhoused people. 144 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: Yes, I know that changed the term again. Yeah. 145 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, homeless man used a gay Pride flag to wipe 146 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: his bottom and was charged with a crime in New 147 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 3: York City for at crime. 148 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: So that's right crime. 149 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: And so I suspect buck, this will go all the 150 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: way to the Supreme Court. And I am such a 151 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: free speech absolutist, and I understand some of you are 152 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: going to disagree with this. I actually think you should 153 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: be able to burn the American flag. I disagree with it. 154 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: I don't support it in any way. I want to 155 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: be clear, But. 156 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: Then should you be able to burn a Pride flag? 157 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: One hundred percent that's what I'm saying. 158 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: I think this would go all the way to the 159 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: Supreme Court because it is a form of political commentary. 160 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: Whether you agree with it or not. The logic and 161 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: consistency there would require that these statutes which seek to 162 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: punish people for doing so are unconstitutional, and that. 163 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: Is why hate crime laws are slippery slope. There are crimes, right, 164 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: There are crimes that people should be punished for. The 165 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: notion that there are things where you could be punished 166 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: for action that is otherwise entirely legal because it offends 167 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: certain people. No, I agree with that there are cases 168 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: even in I remember actually actually did my college thesis 169 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: twenty years ago now on campus speech codes and the 170 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: various ways. Now I entered this as private institutions, but 171 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: they would find ways to punish, and they would use 172 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: criminal law as the basis for it to punish people 173 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: for doing things that would be entirely protected under all circumstances, 174 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: except the wrong feelings are hurt and then all of 175 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: a sudden there has to be action. So I think 176 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 2: that's an interesting side component of this debate. We've kind 177 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 2: of gotten deeper into this now than we had anticipated, 178 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 2: so we'll have to hold some of the political discussion 179 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 2: about the primary for a few minutes. But Clay, can 180 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: you tell me about this? I think we have it right. 181 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 2: The blue here we Go. Blue Jays picture Anthony Bass 182 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: apologize for a posting a video endorsing boycotts of places 183 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: like Target and bud Light Play five. 184 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: I recognized yesterday I made a post that's frightful to 185 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 4: the pride and community which includes friends of mine and 186 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 4: clost family members of mine, and I am truly sorry 187 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 4: for that. I just spoke with my teammates to share 188 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 4: within my actions yesterday and I apologize with them. And 189 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: as right now, I'm using the Blue Jays resources to 190 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: better educate myself. 191 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, I can't. I can't, honestly, I can't. 192 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm using resources, but that I'm I'm I'm excited to 193 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: go into the re education camp where my transgressions will 194 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: result in struggle sessions. Give me a break, Clay, Like, 195 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is why we actually need 196 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: you know, you need to take action. You need to 197 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: speak out because otherwise this happens to everybody. 198 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 3: Well and and by the way, the groveling doesn't work 199 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: because a Toronto newspaper columnist has already demanded that this 200 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: guy be fired. Of course, right, because even when you 201 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: throw yourself prostrate on the apology Olympics here to try 202 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: to apologize for things that you actually believe that managed 203 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: in some way to upset someone. It isn't actually, it 204 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: isn't actually possible to do so. 205 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: In Soulzanitsen's Gulag Archipelago, there's a really haunting there are 206 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: some haunting passages really where he gets into your initial 207 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: arrest on your way to being sent to the Gulag 208 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: and the apparatus functionaries who would be there, you know, 209 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: interrogating you, torturing you and everything else. They knew you 210 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: were innocent, but they wanted you to give a confession 211 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: just because then that made the process of completely destroying 212 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: you even easier, and they would get more and more 213 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: frustrated the longer you held out on that confession. But 214 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: the point is confessing did nothing for you. Like they 215 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: would say, just confess and we'll make it stop. Just confess. No, 216 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: when you confess, then they send you to the Gulag 217 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: for ten or twenty years and your you know, the 218 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: chance of survival is very, very slim. That's the way 219 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 2: it is to bend the need to the woke mob. 220 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: It's not like your confession results in some better treatment 221 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: for you. Your confession merely becomes admission of you being 222 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: a bad person that needs to be punished. Further so, 223 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: there's never any point in it. That's why this guy 224 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: I feel. Look, he's a picture. Is he a very 225 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: good picture? I have no idea. 226 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: Is he a good player? You know what? Buck? 227 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: This is one of those things where I know a 228 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: lot about the Atlanta Braves my chosen. Okay, but put 229 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: me on blast here for being inadequately knowledgeable about the 230 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 3: Toronto Blue Jays roster. Many of you out there maybe 231 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: Toronto Blue Jay roster experts. 232 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: I am not for the baseball fans of the audience. 233 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: Trust me. 234 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: If this guy was a second string tight end playing 235 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: in the SEC twenty years ago, Clay would Clay would 236 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: tell you what his class schedule was. But okay, Blue Jays, yes, yeah, 237 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: so anyway, but this guy apologizes and what does he 238 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: get for it? 239 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: Nothing? But it's it's fascinating. This is now when people 240 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: are starting to say, maybe we should step up. Remember 241 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: this is for bud Light. He shared I think he 242 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: shared or liked a video. 243 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: It wasn't even him talking about endorse I mean a 244 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: boycotting bud Light and boycotting Target. But because he liked 245 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: that action, which remember, in the target situation, it's for 246 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: making bathing suits that hide men's penises that are supposed 247 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 2: to be live in bathing suits. Okay, that's really what 248 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: we're talking toizing for. I mean, like, what have you 249 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 2: done that's so transgressive? So the I just it's the groveling. 250 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 2: I hate when they make people do this. I hate 251 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: when they make people do this, but it's it's not 252 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: about him. 253 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: I would just. 254 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: Notice anyone ever groveled for a left wing opinion, trying 255 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:44,359 Speaker 2: to think. 256 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: I mean there have problem. I mean, I'm sure we could. 257 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: Find some people who didn't say the right thing and 258 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: the left came after them. 259 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: No, No, I mean for having too far left wing 260 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 3: of an opinion. Not like I misspoke and like said 261 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: something and people were mad at me. I mean, like 262 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 3: you said the most outlandish, far left wing thing imaginable. 263 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 3: I can't recall anyone ever being required to apologize for that. 264 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: Now I can't either. I think they always leave space 265 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: for that. But there's also maybe a lesson here, which 266 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: is that our side gets distracted fighting with each other 267 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: or trying to play kate the other side. Their side 268 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: has an amazing and consistent focus on destroying the country. 269 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: So there's something to be learned, something to learn from. 270 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: Ever apologize period, not if you sometimes misspeak. We might 271 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: say something stupid on this show. 272 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: Trust us. 273 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: I'm sure you probably think we do it all the time. 274 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: But apology for misspeaking is different than apologizing for what 275 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: you actually believe in. You should never do the latter. 276 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: We have an announcement about somebody, not like we are enough, 277 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: Just to be clear, we're not announcing it, but there 278 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: is an announcement out there about somebody else who is 279 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: entering the presidential contest here on the Republican side. We 280 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: shall discuss that and a whole lot more here coming 281 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: up in a second. You know, online data breaches happened 282 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: so often these days, they don't get reported very much. 283 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: Yesterday we told you about a medical services company that 284 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: suffered a data breach which potentially compromised millions of Americans. 285 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: The actual breach happened two and a half months ago, 286 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: but we didn't hear anything about it. Cyber Hackers got 287 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: named social security numbers, birthday medical information, all kinds of stuff, 288 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: and if exploited, those cyber criminals can use that easily 289 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: to commit identity theft against people like you. And that's 290 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: the point. 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That's promo code 308 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: b uck for twenty five percent off. 309 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: Truth Seeking, Reality Telling The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton 310 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: show Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Buck 311 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: teased it. We will react to this a little bit more, 312 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: but we want to give you the news. The number 313 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: of Republicans who are running for president continues to grow. 314 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: Chris Christy is reportedly going to announce. What's the date 315 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: next week? Buck, officially Wednesday, next one, Wednesday of next week, 316 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: Chris Christy is going to officially announce and enter the race. 317 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: We of course will invite him to come on this program, 318 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: as we've invited virtually anyone who has has announced for 319 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 3: the presidency so far. This Buck, and we'll talk about 320 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: this when we come back, because I think it is 321 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 3: kind of significant. This would be the first person other 322 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: than DeSantis who might be willing to challenge Trump. Now, 323 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 3: I don't think Chris Christy has a chance to be 324 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: the nominee, but do you agree with that based on 325 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 3: the way things are going so far, Maybe Mike Pence 326 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 3: is going to enter, but Christy would be the first 327 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: person other than DeSantis to be able to go toe 328 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: to toe at least after. 329 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: So here's what I think. I think. 330 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 2: I think Chris Christy is on a political kamikaze mission. 331 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: And his only his only goal is interesting. 332 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: Right DeSantis is out there talking about why he thinks 333 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: he would do a great job. Everyone other than Trump 334 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: is pretty much attacking to Santas. Tim Scott's not really 335 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: attacking anybody. He's just sort of telling inspiring story about 336 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: himself and about America. But you know other Canada. Anyway, 337 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: we'll come back into this. Christy just wants to get 338 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: into settle scores with Trump. I think that's what you're 339 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: looking to see. 340 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 3: He might try to do to Trump what he did 341 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: to Marco Rubio, which if those of you who remember 342 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen, we will discuss in the meantime. 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Go to the website chalk 353 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 3: dot com. Use my name Clay in your purchase process. 354 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 3: That's cchoq dot com, my name Clay for thirty five 355 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: percent of I don't know how many of you had 356 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 3: to show that you really remember are very fondly growing 357 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 3: up in your teenage years. I think it's I think 358 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: depending on what generation you are, I don't know. For 359 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: some of you, it might be a happy days. For Clay, 360 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 3: it's probably. 361 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: Mash, you know, because he was a teenager when Mash 362 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: was here. 363 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: And your insistence, by the way, based on three years 364 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: of difference, and I'm the same Am I the same 365 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: age as your older brother? Yeah, you're the same age 366 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: as my older brother. Well. 367 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: What I think is great, though, is people are just like, hey, 368 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: you gotta lay off Clay. Like so he's a little 369 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: bit older. 370 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 3: We were out to dinner the other day. People don't 371 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: realize this, and and uh, and they were like, uh, 372 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: somehow our ages came up and they said, Buck, you 373 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: look you look really young for your age, which implies 374 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: to me that I look super old for my age. 375 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: Edward three years apart. 376 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: Clay, Like Clay, I could have been on the same, 377 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: like high school athletics team. 378 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: He could have been hazing me. 379 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: That's a good point in the locker room and a 380 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: freshman when I was a senior. 381 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, we could have been on the same high 382 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: school team. But I do. 383 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: I love this joke because occasionally people kind of miss 384 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: the joke of they're just like, hey, hey, lay off. 385 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: You know Clay's. You know, it's like, it's like Clay's. Anyway, 386 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: you haven't been through the war of three kids yet, 387 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: they'll age you. They will aige you. 388 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: I mean the lack of sleep for about twenty straight 389 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 3: years or whatever it is, sixteen straight years of having kids. 390 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: Now that we're all grown up. 391 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: You know, my mom, who had four, she always says 392 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: she if she could go back, she would have eight. 393 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: And I'm always like, well, is that. 394 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: Because you've Is that because the four have all grown 395 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: up and you're now in grandma mode? 396 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: You know, so it's I would, you know, I would 397 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: keep having them. 398 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: We had Katie, who you've met, has been with us 399 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: for almost nine years now, and initially she was in 400 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 3: charge of taking care of all the kids. Buck Now 401 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: she's kind of in charge of me, and she's having 402 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 3: a baby, and so I feel like we're having another 403 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 3: baby coming into the household, and I'm excited about it 404 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 3: because I would keep having So I'm encouraging you and Carrie. 405 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: However many kids you want, add one? 406 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and one day I'll tell stories of I actually 407 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: had an English nanny growing up, and she would buck 408 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: around and she would just she she would get fearious. 409 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: She'd be like, did you take m keys? Did did? I? 410 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: Did we take her keys? And she had always had 411 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: them on a little necklace around her neck that we 412 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 2: could never get her. She always thought I was taking 413 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: I was like five, like, I didn't take your keys, lady, 414 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: I swear anyway. She was very Missus Doubtfire. Oh, actually 415 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: Missus Doubtfire. We look at this differently now, the whole 416 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: Missus Doubtfire situation one of the biggest movies of the nineties. 417 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: Actually, you know that I would. 418 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 3: Be totally unacceptable, although I made that argument and then 419 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 3: people said, you know, Medea might be the one that 420 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: protects Missus doubtfire because. 421 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: If you can'tl miss doutfire, you if you cancel media. 422 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: So how we got on this, uh, other other than 423 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: other than the silly stuff it was I remember I 424 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: grew up and that the shows that had the most 425 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: impact on my on my formative you know, teenage years 426 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: would be Beverly Hill's nine O two and oh maybe 427 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: this explains a lot of my worldview and saved by 428 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: the Bell right. So Beverly Hills nine O two and 429 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: I O would say both both said in California, which is 430 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: interesting to me. Now would I always say I grew 431 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: up thinking California was the Promised Land that I moved 432 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: to somewhere when I was older. But for a lot 433 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: of people, it was Dawson's Creek, which I watched a 434 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 2: little bit of. And this is what got me thinking 435 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: about this. How many of you remember the show Dawson's Creek, 436 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: Guys and Girls. I liked it to forty five and under. 437 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: I think, would you know, be probably Dawson's Creek, you 438 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: know from I don't know what the age limit would be. 439 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: A point being James Vanderbeek, who played Dawson in Dawson's Creek. 440 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: I haven't I haven't seen him in public in a 441 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: very long time. I don't know what the guy's been 442 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: up to. You know, he hopefully he's doing great. You know, 443 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: selling insurance out in Scottsdale or something. I have no 444 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: idea what he's doing. But here he is pointing out 445 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 2: that the DNC is just in this all out shutdown mode. 446 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: He says, no debate, no democracy, and that's an interesting point. 447 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 5: Play A cannot get over the fact that the Democratic 448 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 5: National Committee is saying they will not be a debate 449 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 5: it A signed the nominee for president. 450 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? No debate? 451 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 5: There's no debate over an eighty year old man, if 452 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 5: he lives, would be the oldest sitting president in the 453 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 5: history of the country. And if he doesn't live as 454 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 5: a vice president who's approval rating is worse than his, 455 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 5: How do we have a government? How do we have 456 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 5: a democracy? If we're letting a small, little back room 457 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 5: of people make all the important decisions for us, that's 458 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 5: not a democracy. And it doesn't work because y'all have 459 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 5: been wrong about a lot these last couple of years 460 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 5: in that back room. No debate, no democracy. 461 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: Dawson's Creek for the wind, Clay Boyding' something out here. 462 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: Democrats aren't allowed to even talk about the fact that 463 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: Biden's so old it's preposterous. 464 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: I talked about this on Fox News, and I never 465 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: would have believed that this would be the case that 466 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: we would be reacting to James Vanderbeek aka Dawson Leary 467 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: aka Varsity Blues Johnny Moxon one of the all time 468 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: great high school sports movies, high school movies maybe period. 469 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: He was phenomenal in. 470 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: That as a Texas high school quarterback legend. But buck 471 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 3: he also said Biden's got dementia as a part of this. 472 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 3: And it's fascinating to me that Dawson Leary, James Vanderbeek 473 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 3: is more insightful on the DNC process than anyone on 474 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 3: MSNBC or CNN has been so far throughout the primary season. 475 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: Isn't basic honesty a fascinating thing when it's getting swept 476 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 2: away for so long? There's not a single Democrat who 477 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: could make a case that Joe Biden is not beyond 478 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 2: the senior moments that would raise questions about this, not 479 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 2: a single one. Yeah, and yet they all go along 480 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: with this. It really does feel like a mass formation 481 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: or mass formation psychosis. It feels like everybody on the 482 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: Democrat side has to go along with this craziness that 483 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: they don't believe in and then. 484 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: That brings me to this. 485 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 2: I gotta look, I gotta say another friend, you know, 486 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: we talked about Kelly before. Another friend of the show, Bill, 487 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: O'Reilly right. I remember watching you know, back back god 488 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 2: back when I was in college, and afterwards watching Bill 489 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: at eight pm on Fox for many years. 490 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: Talented broadcaster, uh you know. 491 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: And he's been on the show a few times talking 492 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: about his books, and you will recall he got one 493 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 2: thing totally right. He came on and he said, well, 494 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: Buck is a brilliant guy and a genius, but he's 495 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: and then he got the thing wrong and he said, 496 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: but he's totally wrong about Biden being the nominee. Now 497 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 2: Biden has announced, So in my head, I was thinking, look, 498 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to be that guy that says, haha, 499 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 2: I got this right. But I was thinking to myself, well, haha, Bill, 500 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: I got this one right. I want to be clear, Bill, 501 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 2: we got him here. Bill is still sticking with the 502 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 2: prediction everybody, and I I admire the gumption. 503 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: Is that the right word? That's the right one. I 504 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: admire the gumption here. 505 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: He still believes at this point Biden will not be 506 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: the nominee. 507 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 6: Play nine, the problems that we are facing now, particularly 508 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 6: with this axis of evil, are very very worrisome. And 509 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 6: the open border, as I said, oh boy, it's going 510 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 6: to lead to this real, real trouble. And he does 511 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 6: not have control, Biden of the federal branch of government, 512 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 6: the executive branch. He just doesn't have control of it. 513 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 6: He will not run again. I'm sticking by my prediction. 514 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 6: He will not be the Democratic Nominee's. 515 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: What's your sense of this one? 516 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 3: So I understand the argument of why Biden's not going 517 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: to be the nominee. Here's the challenge. Maybe we need 518 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 3: to get Bill O'Riley on to one. 519 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: But do it. 520 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: But do you do you agree or disagree? Do you 521 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 2: think he is or is not at this point? 522 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: So if he's not going to be the nominee, they 523 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: have to force him out by September. And the reason 524 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: why I say that is if they wait till after September, 525 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris is going to be the nominee. And there 526 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 3: is a zero percent chance that they want Kamala as 527 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 3: the nominee. So the logic behind his opinion is Biden 528 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: is too weak of an incumbent to be the standard bearer. 529 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 3: For Democrats in twenty twenty four. I don't disagree with that. 530 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: I think Biden is going to be the weakest incumbent 531 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 3: president in any of our lives, and I think he 532 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: should lose. Not that he will, but I think he 533 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: should lose. The problem is the protection on some level 534 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: for Biden here Buck is Kamala would be an even 535 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: worse candidate. So if they are going to try to 536 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 3: force Biden out, they have to open up the primary 537 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 3: process and allow an actual race to take place. 538 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: So I I think. 539 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: It's the logical choice, Buck, I really do, but I 540 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: think it has to happen by Labor Day. 541 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm just saying I'm doubling down on 542 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: Biden's going to be the nominee. 543 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: Everybody, just to be If I were betting right now, 544 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 3: I would go Biden nominee. Remember, like maybe a month ago, 545 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: I felt like the long knives were coming out when 546 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 3: the Washington Post had their story about how awful, and 547 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: then nothing really came of it. 548 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: It kind of has faded. 549 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 3: If they're going to force them out, and it would 550 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: be a force out, it has to happen, by the way. 551 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: To be clear, a true and sudden health issue of 552 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: some kind. Yeah, that's not I mean that could still 553 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: but that can happen to literally any president. That could 554 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: happen to anyone who is running for office. I mean, 555 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: you know, God forbid, but you never know. But in 556 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: terms of the political decision making and calculus, at this point, 557 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: I think I think it has to be. 558 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: But you know what we you know we should do. 559 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: Why don't we get bill back on Bill? We should 560 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: have it back on because it has to happen. You 561 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: agree with me. 562 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 3: If it's going to happen non health related, it would 563 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: have to happen in the next ninety days or so 564 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 3: because they would not want Kamala if it happens next year, 565 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: Kamala is the nominee, right, They don't want Kamala as 566 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: a nominee. So the force out is to get a 567 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: better choice. Kamala is a worse choice than Biden. Can 568 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: I tell you something I think. 569 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: Some people think is crazy and light up those lines 570 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: with this debate we're having here eight hundred two A 571 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: two two eight A two. I think Democrats they have 572 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: a better chance of getting Comma elected president than they 573 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: would Gavenuwsom. 574 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: I really believe that I think they think that she 575 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: would be better. Let's we let that. 576 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: Maritate a little bit. I could explain why, but we 577 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: come back. Yeah, we'll come back to it in a moment. 578 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: But you know, the other week I got to host 579 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: an in depth interview online with an extraordinary market analyst 580 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: with a name that I know well, Nason Sexton. He's 581 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: also my dad. Look, I'm very proud of his career, 582 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: including what he's focusing on now, what he calls the 583 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: great disruption of twenty twenty three. In the past on TV, 584 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 2: Dad predicted the stock market crash of nineteen eighty seven, 585 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: the top of the market before the COVID crash. He's 586 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: had many major calls that have been verified that are 587 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: in print. What he sees coming now is unlike anything 588 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: we've ever seen, and you can get in on it now, 589 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: so you know how to prepare and what to do. 590 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: In this interview, he revealed the exact date, in fact, 591 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: this July, when he thinks things turn ugly in the market. 592 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: We've already already been seeing the signs of disruption. Banks 593 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: going under, real estate losing its value, a rapid rate inflation, 594 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: causing sticker shock at the grocery store. My dad Mason 595 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: will tell you why he thinks most analysts are wrong 596 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: about a coming lost decade in stocks, why what's coming 597 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: could be much worse than many ways. This is his 598 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: first major prediction for the public in thirty years. If 599 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: you missed it, the video is still up you can 600 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: watch it go check it out. The replay is available 601 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: now at Disruption twenty twenty three dot com. That's Disruption 602 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three dot com. 603 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: Peek out with the guys on the Sunday Hang with 604 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: Clay and Buck podcast. 605 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: A new episode of Every Sunday. 606 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get 607 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: your podcasts. Okay, Chris Christy's announcing next week, Buck. He 608 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: kind of talked about this. What other than attacking Trump, 609 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: what is the motive for him to enter this race? 610 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: Because I don't think I think his moment has passed. 611 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: He had a moment. I think he primarily squandered it 612 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: and then went and blew up Mark Rubio's presidential race. 613 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: So there is a precedent for him just basically taking 614 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: out someone else. What other than trying to take out Trump? 615 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: What is Chris Christy doing here? Buck? 616 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: I think that it's one. This is what Chris Christie 617 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: is all about. He wants to be out there rumbling 618 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: in public, right. He wants to be part of the 619 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: fight and in the spotlight. Again, I think that's a 620 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: big component of this, which is true of a lot 621 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: of politicians. You know, there has to client. I always 622 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: joke around there's something a little off about anyone who 623 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: could sit for three hours a day talking into a microphone, 624 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: Like you got to be a special type to just 625 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: be like I want to sit around and talk for 626 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: hours a day. But also anybody who wants to get 627 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: into I think it's even a level above those who 628 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: are willing to put themselves out there and get into 629 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: politics at a high level where there's going to be 630 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: the scrutiny to pressure the forces rate against them. So 631 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: I think this is just he's a guy who likes 632 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: the fight, and he also really takes it very personally, 633 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: just so everyone remembers. I believe, and I'm asking for 634 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: a fact check from the team as I say this, 635 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 2: but I believe Chris Christie was denied anything in the 636 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: Trump administration because Jared Kushner had a father who was 637 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: a convicted felon and Chris Christie was the US attorney 638 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: who oversaw that conviction, that felony conviction, which was later 639 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: pardoned by Donald Trump, that conviction. 640 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: And so I. 641 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: Think when you know, there are a lot of people 642 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: in politics that have they have little feuds and things 643 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: come and go. And as I've said, for example before, 644 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: I think Ted Cruz was a phenomenal ally of Trump 645 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: when he was president, even though they had a bruising primary, 646 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: and Ted did what was best for conservatism and best 647 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: for the country. And I think I think Trump appreciated 648 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: Cruse when he was president too. I think he was 649 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: an eloquent spokesman for me any of the America First policies. 650 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: Chris Christy, it's the opposite direction of he's He's you know, 651 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: the feud is very real. This is not going away. 652 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: I think he feels snubbed that I think he wants 653 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: to go after Trump. And what's interesting is you can tell, 654 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: like the problem with some of the others, whether it 655 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: was Kasik or Rubio, is that when they tried to 656 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: get down in the mud. 657 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: I don't even think Mark Rubio would disagree with this. 658 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: He's not comfortable in the mud. That's not where he lives. 659 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: He's not a mud guy, you know, he's not a 660 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: guy who likes to get into it that way. Chris 661 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: Christie is, Yeah, he is happy to throw down with 662 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: Trump in that way. So it could be quite a 663 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: spectacle when they get on the debate stage. But even 664 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: just in the media, the war of words in the 665 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: media will be interesting. 666 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 667 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: Also, I wonder if this makes it even more likely 668 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: that Trump doesn't debate, because if you think that Chris 669 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: Christy is just in the race to attack you, and 670 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 3: that he's going to do to you what he tried 671 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 3: to do to Marco Rubio, why would Trump step on 672 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 3: the debate stage purely from if Trump's got a lead 673 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: and he knows Look, a lot of these guys, I 674 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 3: think are whether it's Vivek, whether it's Tim Scott, whether 675 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 3: it's Nicki Haley, there's a certain element of auditioning for 676 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 3: the Trump administration, right. 677 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: Running for VP or secretary of State or fill in 678 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 2: the blank. 679 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 3: One hundred unlikely that if Trump were on the stage 680 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 3: with them, they would really go after him aggressively. 681 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 2: What's interesting, though, is what you've had up to this 682 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 2: point is and look, I think Chris Christy's he's done 683 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: a lot of appearances on MSNBC and telling Morning Joe. 684 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: You know, so I do think we should have him 685 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 2: on once he announces. I think that's sure interesting. I 686 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 2: want to hear him out on this one. I remember 687 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 2: and a lot of you Tea partiers out there will 688 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: remember this too. Christy was phenomenal at taking on when 689 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: I say tea party, it was around the same period 690 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: of time, you know, twenty eleven ten taking on the 691 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: teachers unions in New Jersey that were just just completely 692 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: uh you know, they were running the school system as 693 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,959 Speaker 2: their own little personal piggy bank and don't care about 694 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 2: the kids at all. 695 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: And he called that out. So he has you know, 696 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: he has that enemy has that ability. 697 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: Anyway, what I think is interested from a political dynamics place, Clay, 698 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 2: is you have people like Nikki Haley and Vivek who 699 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: will attack DeSantis. Yep right, And we've pointed out they 700 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: don't attack Trump, but they'll attack DeSantis. 701 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: Okay, that's their call, their strategy whatever. 702 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 2: But the median narrative will be different when Chris Christie's 703 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: in because he's only going to be attacking Trump. 704 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: I think. 705 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: So, you know, the having the having your second and third, 706 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: you know, Tier, if you will sniping at DeSantis, there's 707 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: going to be a different approach or a different media 708 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 2: commentary when you have Chris Christie throwing haymakers at Trump, 709 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 2: which is what's going to happen. 710 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's less likely that Trump goes into 711 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 3: the debate. I remember that's happening as soon as August, 712 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 3: so I mean we're talking about we're about to be 713 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: June right tomorrow, so we're talking about just a couple 714 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 3: of months away, sixty days from now. And I also 715 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 3: think this could be, as you said, the first person 716 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 3: to enter the race that is doing something other than 717 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: trying to genuflect at Trump's alter someone who is legitimately 718 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: against him. I have a lot of friends who are 719 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 3: big Chris Christie people. 720 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: Buck. I've never seen Chris. 721 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 3: Christy in a presidential campaign where I thought, oh, this 722 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 3: guy looks like the president of the United States. He's 723 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 3: always seemed kind of like a bomb thrower. 724 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: He's a brawler, and he's really the only person that 725 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: you can think of who you know, you know, remember 726 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 2: in Jerry Maguire when she's like, I'm not as good 727 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 2: at the insults as she is Chris Christy may be 728 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 2: as good as the insults at the insults as Trump 729 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: is well. 730 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: See, I think that's where this is headed.