1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: For our fans in the Northern hemisphere of Defending the Kingdom. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: It's springtime. That means newness, and for the National Football 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: League that means new players checking them out things like 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: rookie Mini camp. And that was just completed. As we 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: look at a new batch of players coming into the 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: Chiefs for twenty twenty four and as we anticipate the 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: next step for the veterans and putting together the roster 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: for a chance for winning back to back to back 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Championships. Of course, Defending the Kingdom is brought 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: to you by Ticketmaster. 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We're wearing our Super Bowl Championship puddies 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: here but we also know the page has been turned 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: in a team that every day I sense this and 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: we've talked about it, but every day I sense from 23 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: everybody in the building that there is a real quest 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: to make history, to win back to back to back 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl championships. And we've said this before, but it affects. 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: It affects, as Patrick would say, mahomes every single day. 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that vibe is real. You think about our offseason, 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: there hasn't been much of one. I mean I was 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: at the combine a week after the Super Bowl, and 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: then we went straight into free agency, then went into 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: draft prep, draft happened, then we had rookie minie camp 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: last weekend. There really hasn't been much of a break. 33 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: But for the players, I think they kind of liked that, 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: which is a little bit counterintuitive. They got away a 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: little bit. But you're right that there's been a certain 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: kind of attitude and vibe that as soon as the 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: Super Bowl ended, they kind of were like, all right, 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: let's go for three in a row. There wasn't even 39 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 2: so much celebrating we just won the Super Bowl. It's 40 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 2: like this was part of our journey to hopefully accomplish 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: something that's never happened before, and that mentality is real. 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 2: You can really feel that in the building. And even 43 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: though we're just in phase two right now, which means 44 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: the guys can go out there on the field and 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: do like individual and positional stuff, there's a real kind 46 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 2: of intensity I think, not in terms of the guys 47 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: like hitting each other, but in terms of like their 48 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: work ethic and how they're approaching it. So that's exciting. 49 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: If you're trying to see this team go back to 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: back to back right now, they're working on it here 51 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: in May. I know that training camp isn't for quite 52 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: a while and the season isn't for quite a while, 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: but they're working on that journey right now. 54 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: You and I always like Phase three. We're jumping ahead 55 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: of ourselves here and that's coming up in a few 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: short days after the schedule we'll be announced next week. 57 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: But we want to review a bit of what's happened 58 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: in the last several days, and that is an introduction 59 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: of a whole bunch of new players into the Chiefs Kingdom. 60 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Now a lot of those players have already they took 61 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: a picture and then they send them away. But I 62 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: want to ask you this before I get into all this, 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: let's go around the world though. All right, Northern Hemisphere, 64 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: Southern Hemisphere. Springtime in the Northern Hemisphere, and it's fall 65 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: in the Southern Hemisphere. But what do we have around 66 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: the world. 67 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: So I got two for you today, but they're both 68 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: pretty interesting. So we have a shout out to Casey, 69 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: Jenny and Trent and the Philippines. That'd be Southern Hemisphere, right, 70 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: Southern Hemisphere on the south, yeah, and then definitely Northern Hemisphere. 71 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: We got Joel and Anchorage, Alaska. Shout out to Joel. Yeah, 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: that's what we got to today. 73 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: Do they still have the awesome summer league baseball like 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: to remember. 75 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: The Yeah, it's where there's like no uh the twenty 76 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: four hours of daylight or whatever, and they play the 77 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: whole game or whatever. 78 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: But you've got the Cape Cod League, which was the 79 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: Woodbeck Collegiate guys, and Alaska was always the uh the 80 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: Glacier Pilots in the So anyway, Fairbanks had a team 81 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: and it's but it's awesome. 82 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: But Joel has to let us know it's tough with 83 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: the t travel from minor league baseball because they're they're 84 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: busting around. So they would have to all be like 85 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: an but you go up there and. 86 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: You play like for a month, and then you then 87 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 1: Anchorage go south and plays for a month. But anyway, yeah. 88 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: I have to look into that. 89 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: The all day day lends itself to three am baseball 90 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: in Alaska, Fairbanks, Anchorage and I don't know, catch a 91 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: canon at our places. Yeah, Peninsula had a team down 92 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: in as you know, I think so. But anyway, Yeah, 93 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: shout out to our Alaskans who we love in defending 94 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: the Kingdom, and a shout out to one year coverage 95 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: of the Rookie Mini Camp. But it's really four categories 96 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: of players that are involved in what's happened over the 97 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: last several days, and one of the draftees, which we 98 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: laid all that out, and that's on the last episode. 99 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: The seven drafts that comprise the twenty twenty four draft class. 100 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: But then there's the undrafted free agents, and we told 101 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: you that we pay attention to that. The phone start ringing. 102 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: That's an old school reference to once the draft ends, 103 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: and it's basically thirty two teams doing their version of 104 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: collegiate recruiting. And there's roughly you know, there's what seventeen 105 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: eighteen guys in that UDFA group. Then there's the truck 106 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: Well now before that, there's the veteran kind of guys 107 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: who've been around crock pot guys if you will, that 108 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: have been around the roster, some on practice squad. You know, 109 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: Benjamin's been in the league three years, still was a 110 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: running back that was eligible to be here. So there's 111 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: that group of guys and a little more important, you 112 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: might think, we'll touch on that a second. And then 113 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: there's the tryout guys. They just show up from everywhere 114 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: and anywhere, cleats over their shoulder. Can I give it 115 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: a shot? And I call these the Echo Boydo All Stars. Yeah, 116 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: because Echo Boydo has become the poster child, now, a 117 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: poster young man, I should say of the UDI or 118 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: the tryout guys, just show up and try out, because 119 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: he went from tryout guy to super Bowl champion. And 120 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: there's always one or two that make it out of 121 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: the tryout. And we've got the one. 122 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: We got the one. It's a wide receiver, Drawn Hyak. 123 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: We think that's how we say his last name. We 124 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: still have yet to meet him. Drawn Hyak, we think 125 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 2: from Villanova was the tryout player that made the team 126 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: this year. We'll talk about Drawn here in a moment. 127 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: Six foot one, two hundred pounds. Five seasons at Villanova 128 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 2: from twenty nineteen through twenty twenty three, caught one hundred 129 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: and seventy passes for twenty seven hundred and forty four 130 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: yards twenty nine touchdowns in forty eight career games. And 131 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: when I was watching rookie Mini Camp, I scribbled down 132 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: a little note by his name, and it was volume, 133 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: because repeatedly throughout the weekend he was getting a lot 134 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: of passes thrown his way at various levels. And now 135 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: that we know that the coaching staff was really interested 136 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: in him, it shows that they wanted to see what 137 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: he could do in a variety of capacities, and he 138 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: proved himself. So good for him. That's awesome. Not easy 139 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: to do. You kind of laid this out, but rookie 140 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: Minni Camp is complicated from a roster standpoint. Thankfully, our 141 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: PR staff color coded the roster this year. That helps 142 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: a little. Did that that was not me. I'll not 143 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: take you twenty gosh. I was going to give you 144 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: credit because I thought that is really awesome. That's a 145 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: big step forward that would be Kelsey Bowl in p. 146 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: I smell Kelsey Bowl on that one, then that's she's awesome. 147 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: She is awesome. She kind of thinks the way we 148 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: think it was very smart to color code it because 149 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: there's really kind of five categories. So you have the 150 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: seven draft picks, that's obvious. Then you have the eight 151 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: rookie camp eligible current players. I'm hesitant to say veterans 152 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: because guys like Lewis Rizamit was there. He's never played 153 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: in the NFL. He's kind of a rookie, but he's 154 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: not undrafted. He was a free agent that signed over 155 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: from Wales, so he was there. So there were eight 156 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: players like Chris Soladokan at quarterback. He was the quarterback 157 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: for most of the camp. Those players are not rookies, 158 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: but they don't have the service time experience to be 159 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: kind of aged out of the camp, so they're allowed 160 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: to participate. And in Chris's case, he mentioned this the 161 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: other day, he wanted to participate. He wants to be 162 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: there because it's a great opportunity for those guys to 163 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: get better. Truman Jones is another one UDFA from last year. 164 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: He was at this camp. So eight veterans it's very 165 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: broad use of the veterans. Were there seventeen, Well. 166 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: Let me jump in there a second, sure on that group. 167 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: But the fact and I saw Chris Olodokin today just 168 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: before we were recording, and I said, reps, man, reps. 169 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: He goes. It was awesome because he doesn't get those 170 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: reps at any time. No, Okay, Patrick's going to get 171 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: the bulk of him from here on, from OTAs to 172 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: camp to and then Carson Wentz will get the next group. 173 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: And then there's some scraps at the end of the 174 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: table and that's what Oldadocin usually gets until he becomes 175 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: practice squad. Oh, I'm Lamar Jackson this week. Ky, Yes, 176 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: So it was a big deal for him, and you 177 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: just alluded to it, but I just had a chance 178 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: to talk to him. He doesn't get that chance and 179 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: to be on video to do that from it's just 180 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: a big deal for him and why he doesn't buzzkill 181 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: it and he wanted to be here and get those reps. 182 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: It was awesome. Tells you about his attitude one but 183 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: two this league is can you squeeze in an opportunity 184 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: at any spot? And that was for Chris olodok. 185 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: In his relationship with Patrick Mahomes as a good one. 186 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: They're great friends. And Patrick isn't allowed to be at 187 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: rookie mini camp. He can't be out there participating. Chris 188 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 2: can though, and Chris every single day after practice was 189 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: calling Patrick and letting him know what he thought of 190 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: certain guys, how certain guys did. I mean those little 191 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: things help, I mean every advantage you can get. Why not? 192 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: So Chris Olidokin great rookie Minie camp. Awesome having him 193 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 2: out there. Now, Seventeen undrafted free agent signees were out there, 194 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: and there's some confusion over this. What's the difference between 195 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: a UDFA when we're talking about those guys and like 196 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: a rookie tryout player. Well, when we talk about udfas, 197 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: we're referring to them because they've been signed. So those 198 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: are undrafted free agents who have signed a contract with 199 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, and there were seventeen of those that were 200 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: signed by the Chiefs after the draft. They've since released 201 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: one in order to sign Hayek. They released Reggie Brown 202 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: from James Madison. But a lot of good names on 203 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: here we can talk about in a minute, exciting players 204 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: for veteran tryout players. So you know, so Benjamin is 205 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 2: one running back played for the Cardinals, played for a 206 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: few teams. Veteran guys that are given the opportunity to 207 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: try out here, and you can only have a certain 208 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: number of them, older players, doesn't really matter how long 209 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: they've been in the league. But they're here on a 210 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: tryout basis. Haven't heard any updates on that though after 211 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: they left. And then thirty eight rookies on a tryout basis, 212 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: and those are the Echo Boydos. Those are the guys 213 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: that they don't have any guarantee of being here beyond Monday, 214 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: but they're here for three days. And it's really cool 215 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: because for some of those guys, this is the only 216 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: opportunity they're over going to have in the NFL, and 217 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: they relish it. They take every advantage they can enjoy it. 218 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: But some of these players have a chance and some 219 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: of these guys Echo Boydo the guy last year who 220 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: knew that him showing up as a tryout player, he'd 221 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: be getting a Super Bowl ring in a year's time. 222 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: And for John Hyak, he now has the opportunity here 223 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: with Kansas City to build them what he did in 224 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: rookie Minnie Camp here in OTAs in a couple of weeks. 225 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: The key for that group of guys you just mentioned 226 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: last is to have a photographer because you want to 227 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: be photoed in a chief's uniform doing some drill still 228 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: photo video and then they do the group photo at 229 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: the end, which is like summer camp. Right, we were 230 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: all together there because when you're like Jason Brown, you 231 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: remember the coach on Last Chance, you who brought his 232 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: team here when he was coaching Independence Community College, said yeah, 233 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: I was, you know, as part of the Chiefs, and 234 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: it was with Larry Johnson and well he was at 235 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: a tryout and so yeah, there was a picture of him. 236 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: But a brief time where you're in the chief's uniform, 237 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: have a number on and you can tell your kids 238 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: I was a chief maybe for a day, but I 239 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: was a chief. So make sure you get a photo 240 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: video to prove it and not photoshopped. So you have 241 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: to show some guarantee that you were here. 242 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 2: Well, that was the cool thing because you were out 243 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: of town. I got to go to the Rookie Dinner, 244 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: which is like this dinner up in the press box 245 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: at the stadium where all seventy four players that were 246 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: a part of rookie mini camp were there, and they're 247 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: not there to break down film or to interview or 248 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 2: to do anything. They're there to eat dinner, hang out 249 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: with their fellow rookies, hang out with the coaches, and 250 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: learn what it means to be a Chief. Clark Hunt spoke, 251 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: Mark Donovan spoke, Brandon Flowers was there. He spoke beforehand. 252 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: And every single table had a Chief's alumni member from 253 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: various generations of Chiefs football. So guys like Willie Lanier, 254 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: Bobby Bell, John stener Rude, they were there, but also 255 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: players that I grew up watching and were playing when 256 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: I was like in college, Guys like Brandon Flowers, Spencer 257 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: Ware was there. So players like that who can tell 258 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: these guys what it means to be a Chief, what 259 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: it means to take advantage of this opportunity. And a 260 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: lot of those guys, spencer Ware is a great example, 261 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: not highly drafted, not players that were first round picks, 262 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: but they found a way to carve out a really 263 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: nice career in the NFL. And it's really cool to 264 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: be a part of that. And you could see how 265 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: much it meant to all of the rookies, whether they 266 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 2: be Xavier Worthy or the tryout guys to be a 267 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: part of that and to be a part of this organization. 268 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: If it's only for three days, they can always say 269 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: I was a chief, I was a member of the 270 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 2: back to back defending World champs. 271 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: And there's value to having those veterans there, or the 272 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: guys that have played before, I should say the alumni, 273 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: or if they're may be members of the Ambassador's group 274 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: because they stay connected to the organization. And we have 275 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: a whole group of younger guys now from that spencer 276 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: Ware and b Dot Brandon Flowers group that can reconnect 277 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: with the success that we're having. But for a younger player, 278 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: whether any of these categories to set there with a 279 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: guy who understood that were Brandon Flowers made some dynamic play, 280 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: spencer Ware, the over the shoulder catch in the Great 281 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: Rally in overtime in the opening game of the twenty 282 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: sixteen season for Alex Smith. Those are all things that 283 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: resonate with these younger players. But it's also good for 284 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: our former players to stay connected. The ambassadors do that. 285 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: But this event inspecific. That's probably of all the things 286 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: to talk about the history of this organization, but to 287 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: see those former players connect with the younger guys is 288 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: probably my favorite part of that rookie dinner. 289 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: When I was introducing Flowers, I talked about his career 290 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: numbers and everything, but I also told everyone to look 291 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: up the photo of him at the black Hole. You 292 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about? 293 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: Where? 294 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was it Jason Campbell. Can't remember who 295 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: he picked off, but took it to the house and 296 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: then put his foot on the football and staring right 297 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: into the black hole his flexes and it was like 298 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: five hundred guys giving him the bird. But it's just 299 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: one of the greatest photos ever. He lit up, he 300 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: was smiling real big when I talked about that. 301 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: Love that dude, and love Spencer ware. You remember the 302 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: over the shoulder coach on a running back route to 303 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: the far boundary. I can see it as if it 304 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: was yesterday, and that was part of a great rally 305 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: and one of the better moments for Alex Smith's fifty 306 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: wins here as Chiefs quarterback. 307 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: All right, let's quick story on that. I was in 308 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: Arizona working for the Diamondbacks, and obviously they are on 309 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: they don't do deal wit savings is. 310 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: That when you snuck into the team picture. 311 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 2: You're in the team I didn't sneak into the team picture. 312 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: I was ordered to get in the team photo, and 313 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: I have that photo. 314 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: So this is your version of the tryout guys when 315 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: they get the. 316 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: At least those guys actually played. I just took a photo. 317 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: But I thought I was always smart because that game 318 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: against the Chargers, basically because of the time change, it 319 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: was ten am in Phoenix and none of the pizza 320 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: places or wings places were open. So I ordered pizza 321 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: and wings the night before and put it in the fridge, 322 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: then woke up at nine thirty and just crushed some 323 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: pizza and wings watching the Chiefs game. It is great 324 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: and it was one of the greatest comebacks in team history. 325 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: That's why do you think outside the box I'm trying 326 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: to do. It's also why your wife shakes her head 327 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: like you didn't do that cold pizza. Yes, I did. 328 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. I love it. Let's just kind 329 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: of quickly revisit this and so we're okay, we're in. 330 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: I haven't even mentioned the title yet, but tow in 331 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: the water. Did you take swimming lessons as a kid? 332 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: I did? 333 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, remember your first swimming lesson. 334 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: Well, I remember because I I kind of had to 335 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: relearn how to swim because I broke my arm and 336 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: then like my like muscles weren't responding correctly, so I 337 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: had to kind of relearn how to swim. 338 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: And it was difficult at first. Yeah, it was terrifying. 339 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: I think for the first couple of days. My mom 340 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: loved the water and she was going to make sure 341 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: all her boys learned to swim. And we lived out 342 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: in the country right in Smith's Center. No pool, we're 343 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: not swimming. The town kids had the pool. So when 344 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: you went to swimming lessons, you had to be on 345 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: the town kids, and you were the complete idiot. And 346 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: I just think, I'm gonna drown. First day, it's gonna 347 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, because it's you're just gonna die. Yeah, and 348 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: then you kind of learn how to swim. But for 349 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: this rookie mini camp, it feels like a toe in 350 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: the water for everybody. So let's start with the draft 351 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: class and getting the toe on the water. And there's 352 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: nobody and I shouldn't say toe on the water, but 353 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: maybe thrown into the deep end of the pool. Because 354 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: we know about the demands that coach wants from Xavier 355 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: Worthy right away. But he gets an indication of what's 356 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: required mentally, emotionally, and physically with the rookie mini camp. 357 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: Because you're gonna run tons of routes, you're gonna get 358 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: a lot throw at you. He goes back to my 359 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: tweet before the draft, whomever the receiver is going to 360 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: be that's drafted has got to be ready to work, 361 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: learn three languages in four months. You're not a ZX slaughter. 362 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: Why you're everything. And I think this seventy two to 363 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: three days or whatever would for Xavier Worthy. He got 364 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: a taste of that. 365 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 2: He did a lot of reps, just a lot of reps. 366 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: And that's the beauty of the rookie minnie camp. Before 367 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: all the vets get here, these rookies like Xavier Worthy, 368 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: who you have very high hopes for, they're going to 369 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: throw the book at them. Like you just get to 370 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 2: get in line, catch the ball, get right back on 371 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: the line, just over and over and over again. That's 372 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: great experience. And particularly on Day two, Xavier Worthy really 373 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 2: stood out to me and he was giving a whole 374 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: bunch of opportunities to do different things. So he made 375 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: plays at every level of the field. Early in the practice, 376 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: made a great adjustment on an underthrown deep ball to 377 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: bring it in great play, and we all are excited 378 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: about what he can do as a vertical threat, but 379 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: also just stuff on the line of scrimmage in the 380 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: middle of the field, like the ten to fifteen yard throws. 381 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: Was doing a lot of that, things like crossers, things 382 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: like that. So day two for Xavier Worthy, I feel 383 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: like we really got a chance to see what he 384 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: can do in this offense. And the answer is a 385 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: little bit of everything. And the important thing is he 386 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: took advantage of the opportunity and really particularly day two 387 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: and day three, he looked really, really good in this offense. 388 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: So excited to see what he can do moving forward 389 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 2: here into OTAs. 390 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: We've seen recent receivers vomit on the first day of 391 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: rookie mini camp, and for Xavier when he kind of 392 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: pulled up lame a bit like a hole. Is that 393 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: a hamstring that looks like cramps? It was fine because 394 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: he came roaring back the next day. 395 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: Day one. 396 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, day one, day one, So it's always the day one. 397 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: Are they gonna puke? What are they gonna do with 398 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the crew. In my review of it again, 399 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: The fourth round guys excite me and I know that 400 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm when I look at Hicks and Jaden Hicks at 401 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: Washington State as the safety big City. He looks the 402 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: part and you could see the athleticism. It's going to 403 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: take a while, of course to process it, but he 404 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: and Wiley, to me, these two fourth rounders could be 405 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: something that could help right away, both. 406 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: Players that we thought would be drafted earlier than they were, 407 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: and the Chiefs got him in the fourth round. Hicks 408 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: made some plays throughout the weekend. He's playing at various 409 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: spots in the defense. Just a total SPAGS defensive player, 410 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: a chess piece you could put anywhere, and right away 411 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: he was being put in numerous different situations to show 412 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: what he could do, which is exciting because that gives 413 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: Spags an idea of where to start with him. Where 414 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: do we start when we get to OTA's and mini 415 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 2: camp when the veterans are here. It's a really good 416 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: opportunity for him. And then Jared Wiley, I think was 417 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: my top performer from the entire rookie mini camp. He 418 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: just from day one looked the part and that's I 419 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: think the best compliment I can give him is he 420 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: looks the part. He looks like an NFL player out 421 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: there and a guy who's going to make plays for 422 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: this team. I hope early on, I mean, he really 423 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: just didn't look like the moment was too big for him. 424 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: He was able to do a lot of different things 425 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: during red zone work on Day three, huge red zone weapon. 426 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: I think we all kind of anticipated that from him. 427 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 2: But also on Day one and Day two even stuff 428 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: just in the middle of the field. He was looking 429 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 2: really good. So Jared Wiley's a player. I'm pretty fired 430 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: up about six foot six, two hundred and sixty pounds, 431 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: but can move and can catch the football. Hard to 432 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: find those kind of players. 433 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: It's really going to put the three tight end and 434 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: four tight end potentially part of the offense. I think 435 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: in full swing for Andy Reid. We'll see that during 436 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: the OTAs and training camp to see where it goes. 437 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: But I'm with you. When you see frame and you 438 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: see movement, and you see instinct and understanding, you can 439 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: see the Temple High School Texas quarterback come out in 440 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: him and understanding coverages. And I know we're just getting started, 441 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: but I think those two fourth rounder guys are something 442 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: that I get really excited about. Now. I thought the 443 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: most what I saw, the most reworld, real world part 444 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: of the entire weekend was the chance that Kingsley Suamatia 445 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: got to go again Truman Jones. Now, Truman Jones fits 446 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: the category and. 447 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: He'd be one of those for current players that is 448 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: allowed to go. He has like eligibility. Yeah, he'd been 449 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: around last year. Yeah, yeah, and. 450 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: True and Jones a good player at a Harvard right 451 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: and so, and I thought he looked really good. But 452 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: it was some real world work, I thought for Kingsley 453 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: because it wasn't like, oh, I'm going against the tryout guy. 454 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: It was Kingsley had to work. And so he's off 455 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: and running, but he had to work. 456 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: And here's what's difficult with this camp. The rules are 457 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: such that they can't play real football right now. They 458 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: can't put pads on until the second week of training camp, 459 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: which will be like in August. So right now the 460 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: guys are out there just in shorts and jerseys and 461 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: they have to try to simulate as much as they 462 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: possibly can without doing like live hitting and things like that. 463 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: And that's been like negotiated by the NFLPA. They literally 464 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: can't do it. So how do you get the most 465 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: work out of this kind of camp when you are alignment? 466 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: And that's part of the challenge as well. And for 467 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: a guy like Kingsley, you have to go out there 468 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: and show what you can do and get better while 469 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: not really playing real football, and that's hard, but obviously 470 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: talent through the roof, potential to the roof with this 471 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: guy and his first taste of NFL action, going out 472 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: there against a player like Truman Jones who is not 473 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: necessarily like an NFL veteran, but a guy who's been around, 474 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: who's been around this team for over a year now, 475 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: that's a good opportunity, a good experience for him working 476 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: within the parameters that they have to during this phase two, 477 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: Phase three. 478 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: Time footwork critical obviously whether they're in full pads or not, 479 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: and then hand placement, hand fighting basically you see him 480 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: do it all the time. Truman Jones was really good. 481 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: I'm really kind of fired up to see him in 482 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: UDFAS And for Kingsley, it's going to just be a 483 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: work in progress for him, but you know, he's got 484 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: a high ceiling and a chance to learn. But I 485 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: thought for him for Xavier you don't usually see in 486 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: your point's a good one with even an OTAs because 487 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: there's no nine on seven. There is some one on 488 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: one work, but it's not like training camp one on one. 489 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: You really don't get it till the pads get on. Yeah, 490 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: but the toe in the water for kink for Xavier 491 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: Worthy to jump in. Hey, we're going to throw you 492 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: into a little deeper into the pool here. I sense 493 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: that a little bit from Kingsley only because I thought 494 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: Truman Jones gave him an idea of what the National 495 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: Football League's about. 496 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: Sure, and coach Heck's going to challenge him. I mean, 497 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: Kingsley is young. Kingsley is twenty one years old. And 498 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: what I love about the Chief's coaching staff is they 499 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: don't do a lot of like handholding. It's like, you 500 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: want to play in the NFL, you want to play 501 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 2: on the Chief. Let's figure out what you can do 502 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: and then you know, if you give a guy too much, 503 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: you reel him back in. But that's why we've had 504 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: some success finding these guys and finding players later in 505 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: the draft who have been able to contribute, because everyone's 506 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: giving an opportunity to show what they can do and 507 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: given an opportunity to fail, and if you do fail, 508 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: how do you respond to that. That's what this time 509 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: of year is all about. I mean, we're in May, 510 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 2: so not every thing is going to be perfect. But 511 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: the Chiefs use this time better than anyone else. I 512 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: truly believe it. You talk to other players around the league. 513 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: This time is not used as effectively and as efficiently 514 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: as the Chiefs are using it. So how do you 515 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: use this time to get better? And it's again not 516 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 2: always going to be perfect, but the work you put 517 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: in now is going to pay off when we're in 518 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: the middle of November and you're playing the Baltimore Ravens. 519 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: The work you put in now helps you then. So 520 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: that's what's exciting about this time of year. It's a 521 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 2: process of getting to where we're going. 522 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: And process and processing is a big part of this 523 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: because they get thrown a lot manually and who can 524 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: process and who can process it quickly and then who 525 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: can translate that processing to the field as quickly as possible. 526 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: That's also evaluated from now in including training camp. 527 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: And their retention as well. Coachy will say that it's 528 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: this is all kind of a test. So the rookies 529 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: can't come back for the Phase two stuff yet the 530 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: rookie minuting camp happened last weekend. They are then sent off, 531 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: even the draft picks. Everyone's gone. That then come back 532 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: the week of May twentieth for OTAs. That's when the 533 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: veterans are here on a voluntary basis. Well, coach is 534 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: going to see what did they remember, what did they 535 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: retain because a lot of the rookie mini camp stuff, 536 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: like the installs with plays and everything, that is the 537 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: stuff that's done on day one and day two of OTAs, 538 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: so they have a head start. Those guys should, in 539 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 2: theory already have that stuff down. So if you have 540 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: a couple of rookies who don't really know what's going on, 541 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: they're making mistakes about the stuff that's done in day 542 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 2: one and day two of OTAs well, that tells coach something. 543 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: They didn't retain the information. And likewise, if you have 544 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 2: players that are really good at it right away on 545 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: day one and day two, those guys took what we 546 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: taught them a couple weeks ago and they didn't just 547 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: leave as soon as they left here. They retained it. 548 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: So that's really important as well. 549 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: I give the West Point analogy here, So please you 550 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: show up. You're excited that you got in. Had needed 551 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: a congressional appointment. You've got to be really good and 552 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: smart and get good sat or Act scores, and then 553 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: you get like thirty minutes to say goodbye to your parents. 554 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: So that's the time where you celebrate. Hey, I got 555 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: drafted by the Chiefs. Hey, I got a new DFA 556 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: contract with the Chiefs. Hey, I'm getting to try it 557 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. Hey I'm a veteran, but I'm getting 558 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: invited back to give it a shot again. And then 559 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: it's over. You can get digit sell it because you 560 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: jump right in and go to work. 561 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: But that'd be ready. 562 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: That's the thing for everybody. So my UDFA MVP of 563 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: Rookie Minni caamp is Fabian love It, who's the defensive 564 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: inside tech who played at Florida State but prior to 565 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: that was at Mississippi State and didn't have tons of 566 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: production at Florida State. Because to me, he's and it's 567 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: ironic because Derek Noddy played at Florida State and so 568 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, who's ninety nine? Who's ninety nine? And so 569 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: then you go back and you go Oh, that's the 570 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 1: love It kid and really good player. This is a 571 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: guy I think to just will watch him through training 572 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: camp and through OTAs. But we've seen the Turk Whartons 573 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: come from an undrafted status. We see Derek who since 574 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen has helped this team win three Super Bowls 575 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: doing basically the dirty work. When I saw love It 576 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: and for the first time, I saw those same kinds 577 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: of players. So I don't want to get ahead of myself. 578 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: Don't put him in the Hall of Fame, but there's 579 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: enough there to go right. That might be my UDFA MVP. 580 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: Dane Brugler is my favorite draft analysts. He does great stuff. 581 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: His draft guide is dense and extensive, and he has 582 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: information on everyone. But you don't have to look far 583 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: to find Fabian love It in his draft guide because 584 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 2: he's a player he projected as a fifth or sixth 585 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: round pick. The Chiefs got him as a UDFA. Sometimes 586 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: guys just fall through the cracks for whatever reason. And 587 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: love It's a talented player who a lot of people 588 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: who do this for a living thought would be drafted 589 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 2: kind of in the middle of the draft. Here's what 590 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: Brugler wrote about him. He said, Love It is stout 591 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: at contact with a god given length and power to 592 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: continue getting better as a pass rusher. He has a scheme, 593 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: versatile skill set and projects as a rotational interior lineman. 594 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: If that evaluation holds tr and if you can earn 595 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: a spot on this roster, maybe the practice squad, that's 596 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: like an extra draft pick. Getting a player of that 597 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: skill set and with that talent as a UDFA is exciting. 598 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: So I'm with you on Fabian love It. A few 599 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: others to know, and you talk about wingspan. There was 600 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: one play I believe day two it's wide open. Remember 601 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 2: I talk about the most devastating defensive play that nobody appreciates, 602 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: and that's the tip pass. Yeah you have one of those? 603 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And it was open and I think it 604 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: was held of dope and like, oh, crad, this was 605 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: going to work. But then he knocks it down, like help, 606 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: that didn't work? Yea, And so and when you look, 607 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: I think it's thirty five and a quarters wingspan. It's 608 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: like for legit and you don't usually see that sometimes 609 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: in inside text. You'll see him from outside text. But 610 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: there's just something enough there with him that we'll keep 611 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: four eyes on him during the OTAs. 612 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, we certainly will a few others to know. Linebacker 613 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: Curtis Jacobs from Penn State is interesting, another player that 614 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: Brugler thought would be a fifth round pick. Just a 615 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: ton of production at Penn State and also played on 616 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: special teams there. Over the last three years, he had 617 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty seven special team snaps. For a 618 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: lot of these guys, that's very important to have that 619 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: special team's flexibility and experience. Carson Steel from UCLA is 620 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: a fun one, a running back. 621 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: Originally, can I pause on that one? 622 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, please jump in because that's where you're going. 623 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: I'll let you finish and then we'll go there. Because 624 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: because Matt and I live weird lives we do. We'll 625 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: text each other like, hey, have you seen this guy? 626 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: Or what did you think about this guy? Or you know, 627 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: it's usually late at night. I'll let you finish on 628 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: him because there's a funny story with this one. Well. 629 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: Carson Steele was at Ball State for a couple of 630 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: years and two years ago. At Ball State he was 631 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: like legitimately a superstar. He rushed for one five hundred 632 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: and fifty six yards fifteen total touchdowns earned All Conference 633 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: honors and forced ninety six missed tackles. Then this is 634 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: what I really respect about him. It kind of reminds 635 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: me of what Mike Dana did years and years ago. 636 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: He could have just kept having all this production at 637 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: Ball State and he'd likely be drafted because his numbers 638 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: are video game ridiculous. But he decided to to challenge himself. 639 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: Transferred to UCLA, wanted to play in the Pac twelve 640 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: and led the bruins and rushing. So he went from 641 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: a smaller program where he had crazy numbers, went to 642 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: a big program where you're playing Power five schools on 643 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: a regular basis, and still had a really nice season. 644 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: So Carson Steele is a fun one. He can bench 645 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty pounds and squat six hundred and 646 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: seventy five pounds. You know, Bruce Feldman does that Freaks 647 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: list every year. He was on there last year. He 648 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: looks like a linebacker. So speaking with special teams, I 649 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: think he's a player that could contribute on special teams 650 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: right away. 651 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: If you make Feldman's freak List and you're a running back, okay, 652 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: that's a that's a deal. But Jordan Geisler is our 653 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: creative director here. He's really talented. Oh yeah, he's helped 654 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: us both immeasurably. 655 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: He does the whole brand. If you see anything otherwise, 656 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: that's a Chief's like the logo, everything is them. 657 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Jay Dog. Okay, how long ago was it? 658 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: He goes, Carson Steel Man, here's my sleeper of the 659 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: whole twenty twenty four classes, Carson Steel Ball State. Well 660 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: I went back. If you want to see crazy video 661 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: game numbers, look what he did at Greenwood, Indiana. I bet. 662 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's it's so a gazillion yards. So 663 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: then he becomes ball State guy. Then he becomes UCLA 664 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: guy that was Jordan's guy all along. Oh yeah, he 665 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: gave us that ping thirty days before the draft. So 666 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: it's so now the draft's over, we've done Draft Fest. 667 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: We're both done with the draft, trying to get to 668 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: the monsoon to get where we're supposed to go to next, 669 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to clean up stuff. Who do I 670 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: see but Jordan and he goes we got Carson Steel. 671 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: He was the happiest guy in the Chiefs Kingdom because 672 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: we picked his guy as a UDFA. He answered the call. 673 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: He took the call, disdained thirty one other teams to 674 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: become Jordan's guy as our ball State slash Greenwood, Indiana 675 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: slash UCLA running back. I thought it was funny because 676 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: I thought of you right away, because I go, now, 677 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: we got our creative director who's involved in this. 678 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: I do this series on YouTube and social called draft 679 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: Talk where I break down various position groups and players 680 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: we could take. And he popped in my office. I 681 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: really like in maybe late March when I was working 682 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: on the running backs, because I kind of try to 683 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: study them and research them and write guys down who 684 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about in these videos. And he's like, 685 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: you got to look up Carson Steele. Look up Carson Steel, 686 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: like all right? Like I look him up and I'm like, 687 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: yeah me, he looks good, like yeah, And then what 688 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: do you know, a month later he was right all along. 689 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: So Jordan, good for you on targeting Carson Steel. Now 690 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: he's a chief. 691 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. And the Money Bailey running back out of TCU. 692 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: You look at his production. It was phenomenal for them. 693 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: So we'll wrap it up here. It's a toe in 694 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: the water for Xavier Worthy and for Kingsley Suamatia. It 695 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: was a maybe thrown into a little deeper water than 696 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: the other guys, but still it's a start. First day 697 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: of swimming lessons. Get ready to go, because now it's 698 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: gonna get even tougher and ramp up even more and 699 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: even more exciting it is. 700 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: And I even have more for you here because I 701 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: caught up with Trevor Sikima earlier this week. Trevor Sikima 702 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: is from Pro Football Focus does all their draft stuff, 703 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: and I had Trevor on It's for a few minutes 704 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: talking about his thoughts on our draft class and also 705 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: some of our UDF face. All right, we're joined now 706 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: by Trevor Sikima from Pro Football Focus, one of the 707 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: very best draft analysts out there. And Trevor want to 708 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: ask you about the Chief's first round pick and Xavier Worthy. 709 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: And it's funny because sometimes the most obvious and the 710 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 2: easiest answer is the correct answer. Because months ago, the 711 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: very first draft segment I did was with you, and 712 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: I asked you who could make sense for the Chiefs 713 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: that at the time thirty two overall, and the very 714 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: first player you mentioned was Xavier Worthy. And here we are. 715 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: He was the Chief I was curious for your thoughts 716 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: on the move. 717 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, if I could turn that, you know, if I 718 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 3: could turn that confidence of bets into like my sports 719 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 3: betting career, I feel like I'd be a lot better 720 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 3: off with being able to call stuff and being able 721 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: to prop it off of it. 722 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 4: But anyways, look Xavier Worthy. 723 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 3: I think he is a perfect connection for what the 724 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 3: Chiefs want to do because you know, it's not as 725 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: simple as people think of like, oh, yeah, mahomes big arm, 726 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: vertical offense, but that is an element of their offense 727 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 3: last year specifically that was lacking in consistency. They were 728 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 3: going after it, they were trying to do it, but 729 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: just that consistency wasn't there from it. And so I 730 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 3: really think that this is a player who they've had 731 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 3: a lot of turnover of some guys that could be 732 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 3: focal points in the passing attack. But Worthy to me 733 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 3: fits a role no matter what they were going to 734 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: do in the off season of how they wanted to 735 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 3: get better, and I felt like this was going to 736 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 3: be an area where they gravitated towards and obviously, way 737 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 3: back in February, I felt like it made sense free 738 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: agency went by the draft came around and here we go. 739 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 3: It'sa you're worthy as a Kansasity Chief And you know, 740 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody earlier in the week, and 741 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 3: sure it is like the vertical aspect of what he 742 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 3: can do with his deep speed and how he can 743 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 3: help this team. 744 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 4: But also the. 745 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: Chiefs are really good at getting the most out of 746 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 3: players speed in a lot of different areas, so like 747 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 3: this is a team that they themselves have watched them 748 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 3: do this. James Jeremiah NFL Network emphasized this as well, 749 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: like how much the Chiefs corners have to be good 750 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 3: tacklers because they understand that the league is going to 751 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: a place where things are getting very stretched out and 752 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 3: teams are much more willing to throw those screens and 753 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 3: basically say, okay, make your corner tackle, like we're gonna 754 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 3: put him in a position where everybody else is going 755 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 3: to be blocked up. 756 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: And your corners are going to have to tackle us. 757 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: Well. 758 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 3: I think they also take that to the offensive side 759 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 3: of the ball, where they say this is where we 760 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 3: want the league to go, where we think the league 761 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 3: is going, We're going to lean into this as well, 762 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 3: and we're going to have a player in Xavier Worthy, 763 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 3: where we can get the ball in his hands very quickly. 764 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: We don't just have to get the ball in his 765 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 3: hands forty fifty yards down the field to maximize that 766 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 3: four to two speed. We'll get in his hands pretty quickly. 767 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 3: And if your corners can't tackle, guess what. That's thirty 768 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 3: forty yards down the field. And it's about as easy 769 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 3: as just a game of pitch and catch. So to me, 770 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: that's why Worthy his speed, the things that he brought 771 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 3: to the table, it always made sense for Kansas City, 772 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 3: and I get what they went after him in the 773 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 3: first round. 774 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, guy, that seems to make a lot of sense. 775 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 2: And I'm totally with you where I think he has 776 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 2: the deep speed obviously fastest forty yard dash with the 777 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: combine ever, but also has the ability to affect the 778 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: game at all three levels with that speed, not just 779 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 2: straight line speed, which I think differs him from other 780 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 2: guys who had great forty times over the last several years. 781 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 2: I just think it's so funny that, you know, we 782 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 2: spent so many weeks and months talking about the stuff 783 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: and first guy you mentioned way back in February is 784 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: the guy they end up taking in the first round. 785 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about our second round pick 786 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 2: as well, Kingsley Suamataiya from BYU left tackle with versatility 787 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 2: to play right tackle as well. Your thoughts on Kingsley 788 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: now being the chief A. 789 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 3: Former five star guy, started his career at Oregon, ended 790 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 3: up moving back home to BYU. Like you mentioned, he's 791 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 3: played right tackle and left tackle. A really good athlete 792 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 3: for his size. I mean he is terrifying when he 793 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: gets out on the hoof. I mean when they're running 794 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 3: either pitch roouts or just again like screens where he 795 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 3: can get off the line of scrimmage and he becomes 796 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 3: like a lead blocker in space. 797 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 4: If I was a safety, I'd be terrified. I might 798 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 4: make a business decision. 799 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 3: I might just go like, all right, I'm gonna make 800 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 3: sure that we got to take you out of play, 801 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: but like, don't hit me too hard, big Fellas. So, 802 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 3: the way that he moves, in the athleticism that he has, 803 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 3: that explosion, this definitely shows up in his tape. 804 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 4: But he's just raw. 805 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 3: I think it is in his consistencies of how he is. 806 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: Is a blocker right now, you don't want to watch him. 807 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 3: He got better about this as the year went on 808 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 3: for sure, but certainly when I was watching twenty twenty 809 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 3: two in a little bit of early twenty twenty three, 810 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 3: he had a tendency to want to like shove guys 811 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 3: instead of really get his hands up inside and like 812 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 3: block them and just totally take them out of the play. 813 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 3: You get the hands inside and really just like use 814 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 3: those vice scripts for hands and really just kind of 815 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 3: maintain those blocks. And that's what you want to see, 816 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 3: right Like, that's the kind of blocking that you want 817 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: to that you want to gravitate towards, because that's more consistent. 818 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 3: That allows you to maintain those blocks, and you become 819 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 3: more reliable and more consistent. And I just think as though, 820 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 3: whether he plays left or right, I don't think he 821 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 3: has to play there right away, which is really important 822 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 3: to me in the spot that he's landed in Kansas City. 823 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 3: Because some people were talking about Kingsley is like a 824 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 3: late first round pick, and I was like, Okay, I 825 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 3: see the talent. I understand why you're doing this from 826 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 3: a talent standpoint, But if you draft a guy in 827 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 3: the first round and offensive line, and a lot of 828 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 3: times you want him to. 829 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 4: Start pretty quickly, and would have been. 830 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 3: I would have been a little bit nervous about that 831 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 3: if you were just going to stick him out there 832 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 3: in week one. But with Kansas City, they've got enough 833 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 3: guys around him where he doesn't have to start right away. 834 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 3: He can really hone in on how to be more 835 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 3: consistent with his handwork and really more consistent, more patient 836 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 3: as a blocker, and I think when you combine that 837 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 3: with his athletic potential, you've got a future starting offensive tackle, 838 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 3: or at least you have it in the cars. This 839 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 3: is within the realm of a realistic possibilities for him. 840 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 3: So to me, maybe not an instant impact type of 841 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 3: a player. 842 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: Maybe he is. 843 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 3: Maybe he'll surprise me, and I'd love to see that. 844 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 3: But at the very worst, I feel like you're two 845 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 3: year three. You're getting a guy that you're thrown out 846 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 3: there to be able to start for you because. 847 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,479 Speaker 2: He's got a lot of promise well in just twenty 848 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: one years old, which is exciting. I think sometimes we 849 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: all kind of forget about this. We think all the 850 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 2: draft picks are the same age. But I mean there 851 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 2: was guys in this draft that are twenty five, twenty six. 852 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 2: I mean, Kingsley is twenty one years old, just turned 853 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 2: twenty one in January, with like you said, the potential 854 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: and talent through the roof, so excited to see how 855 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 2: he can kind of come along here in OTA's and 856 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: they get going in about a week now. Day three, 857 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 2: I think the Chief's got a lot of value over 858 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: the course of several hours of that Saturday. Is there 859 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 2: a pick or two? But you really liked for the 860 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 2: Chiefs in day three. 861 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 3: Man, I liked a lot of what the Chiefs were 862 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 3: able to do on day three. I mean, I love 863 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 3: the Wiley pick because I think it's a really good, 864 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 3: like long term investment for them. You know, no, Gray's 865 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 3: in the last year of his rookie deal. IRV Smith's 866 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 3: just a one year deal right now. I know that 867 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey signed the extension, but like, getting Wiley in 868 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 3: the building right now allows him to be you know, 869 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 3: maybe rotational tight end this year, tight end two next year, 870 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 3: maybe even tight end one the year after that. And 871 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 3: I think it's a really nice progression. So I think 872 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 3: they did a great job of capitalizing on that. Jayden Hicks, 873 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 3: I think allows them to play that three deep safety 874 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 3: rotation that the Chiefs have loved over the last couple 875 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 3: of years after losing on Mike Edwards. So I really 876 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 3: liked that one. The Hunter Norzad pick. I felt like 877 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 3: Norrizad could have gone a lot higher in this draft. 878 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: They end up getting him in the fifth round, and 879 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 3: you could say, well, hold on, the Chiefs already have 880 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 3: a great into your offensive line. Yeah, but this is 881 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 3: the type of player who, if any of these guys 882 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 3: go down for the short term, you could plug in Norzad. 883 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: He'd play any spot, either guard or center, and you 884 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 3: can get by with it. 885 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: Right. 886 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 3: That's somebody who you're not afraid to kind of like 887 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 3: play in a pinch, but he's not going to go 888 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,959 Speaker 3: in a starting role over the guys that are there 889 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 3: right now. 890 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 4: But certainly for this three peat run. 891 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 3: He's somebody who you got faith in to be able 892 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 3: to play right away and not just look completely lost. 893 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 3: So those are a handful of players that really stood 894 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 3: out to me. And I know you kind of asked 895 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 3: me to give one, but. 896 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 4: I gave the Chiefs. 897 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 3: I gave the Chiefs an a draft so and the 898 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 3: reason why is because not only do I think they 899 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 3: nailed their early picks, I think they nailed the late 900 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 3: picks as well, they got a lot of really good 901 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 3: value and I just. 902 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 4: Love the fit in the vision for each one of 903 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 4: these players. 904 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's how you maintain a dynasty, is 905 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 2: you find players late in the draft who can come 906 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 2: out contribute. I mean the Chiefs have done a great 907 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 2: job of that obviously in recent years, getting guys like 908 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 2: Isaiah Pacheco and Jalen Watson and so many others. But 909 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 2: I was looking at your top one hundred lists going 910 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 2: into the draft, and I think you had Wiley and 911 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 2: Jayden Hicks both a top one hundred players that She's 912 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 2: got them both in the one to thirty range. So yep, 913 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 2: say something about the value of the draft. I mean 914 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 2: that's I think why the Chiefs win. Obviously you want 915 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: to hit on the Day one and Day two guys, 916 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 2: but finding guys later in the draft is so important 917 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 2: for a team like the Chiefs. That's picking at the 918 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 2: end of the round every single round. Hopefully they did 919 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 2: that again here with these guys, and it keeps going 920 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: into the UDFA period, which the Chiefs have had so 921 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 2: much success of finding college free agents as well over 922 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 2: the years. I Mean, the list goes on and on, 923 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 2: guys like Trashaun Wharton still on the roster, Who's previous 924 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 2: UDFA now starts for this team at times. Darryl Williams 925 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 2: was on this team for a long time. Help this 926 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 2: team win. Was a UDFA. Plenty of examples. When you 927 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 2: look at the Chiefs UDFA class this year, who stands out. 928 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 3: They got a handful of players that were very notable 929 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 3: to me that I watched for the draft guide in 930 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: the UF UDFA portion of signing these guys, and I 931 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 3: thought it was just a really great job. I mean, 932 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 3: you brought up Isaiah Pachaco. I think the running back 933 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 3: that they got a UCLA Carson Steele. I mean, I 934 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 3: feel like he's kind of cut from the same cloth, right, 935 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 3: He's like a bigger, more powerful back. I mean he'll 936 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 3: just put his shoulder India. He's somebody who is going 937 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 3: to thrive off of those yards after contact. I really 938 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 3: felt like his style fit. What the what the Kansas 939 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 3: City Chiefs kind of gravitate towards of their running game. 940 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 3: So I love that fit there, Fabian love it. I 941 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 3: thought it was going to absolutely get to be drafted, 942 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 3: and so to get him as a UDFA, I think 943 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 3: is a deep offensive lineman, a strong defensive lineman piece. 944 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 4: That's a really nice one to me. 945 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 3: Curtis Jacobs, I thought certainly had a chance to get 946 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 3: drafted as well. This is a player with really good athleticism. 947 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 3: He's just got to anticipate a little bit better. But man, 948 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 3: if the light can come on for this guy, he 949 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 3: can absolutely make this roster. I think he's a practice 950 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 3: squad guy for sure, no matter what this year, but 951 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 3: then he develops into potentially a guy who can be 952 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 3: a depth linebacker for you can make the team, can 953 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 3: make the active fifty three man. And then the last 954 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 3: guy that I would shout out is Ethan Driscoll, the 955 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 3: massive offensive tackle prospect from Marshall who just size alone. 956 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 4: I think you want to take it. You want to 957 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 4: take a bet on him. 958 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 3: He's a former basketball player, so you kind of see 959 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 3: those basketball movements with him, and just overall consistency making 960 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 3: sure that he's utilizing that length as best he can, 961 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 3: because he's not the greatest athlete when it comes to 962 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 3: those kick slides and moving on moving out in space. 963 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 4: But if he can continue. 964 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 3: To anticipate better and just use his length in more 965 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 3: patient ways, I think that he is somebody who again, 966 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 3: you can't teach the type of size that this dude has, 967 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 3: so maybe he also has a chance to make the 968 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 3: roster at some point in time. So I thought it 969 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 3: was there's a really solid draft for them overall on 970 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 3: draft weekend. But then that continues with the udfa's because 971 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 3: when I looked at their UDFA class overall, it was 972 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 3: a lot of guys that I thought were going to 973 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,240 Speaker 3: get drafted that they got after the draft. 974 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an exciting group. This happens every year where 975 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 2: those players that everyone kind of thinks will be drafted 976 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 2: for whatever reason, they don't get drafted, but they have 977 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 2: an opportunity now wherever they end up, and in this 978 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: case with those guys in Kansas City, to show that 979 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 2: they belong and to show that teams made a mistake 980 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 2: by not drafting them. And at least in Rooie Minnie Camp, 981 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 2: a couple of those guys Babe and love it. In particular, 982 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 2: I really stood out. So it should be interesting to 983 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 2: see where those guys' careers go here moving forward. But 984 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 2: good value for the Chiefs kind of turns into an 985 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 2: extra draft pick or two if those guys can hit 986 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 2: Trevor awesome stuff. As always, really appreciate your time. I 987 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 2: can't imagine the work that goes into all this stuff, 988 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 2: just working for months and months and months to prepare 989 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 2: for the draft. But I hope you get a break 990 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: here coming up and once again to really appreciate your time. 991 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate it, Matt. I mean like you guys 992 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 3: do a phenomenal job as well. I know it's been 993 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 3: a long season for you guys in coverage with the 994 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 3: Super Bowl run and then immediately turn on to the Draft. 995 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 3: So hopefully you guys get some well deserved rests as 996 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 3: well before we get into you know, mini camp and 997 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 3: training camp and all that good stuff. 998 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 4: But I appreciate them, a friend, all. 999 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 2: Right, good stuff there from Trevor. These guys just labor 1000 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 2: over this stuff for months and months and months. So 1001 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 2: guys like you and me who are focused on the 1002 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 2: super Bowl as soon as it's over, can try to 1003 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 2: figure out what the draft class looks like. But we'll 1004 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 2: respect all the work that goes into this for those 1005 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 2: individuals that pour over it for a year's time. I 1006 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 2: mean those the draft analysts that are going to become 1007 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 2: really popular here in about a year. They're a crunching 1008 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: tape right now on next year's class. And you and 1009 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 2: I aren't even thinking about that. But the guys that 1010 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 2: provide these draft guides and analysis and evaluations that we 1011 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: rely on so heavily throughout February, March and April, they're 1012 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 2: working on them right now. So shout out to guys 1013 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: like Trevor. Really appreciate your work. 1014 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: We appreciate the work of Bredveach and his staff as well. 1015 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: We do go back, what two or three episodes ago. 1016 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: We got to give those guys credit. They deserve it 1017 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: because they live the same life. Oh yeah, they're already 1018 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,479 Speaker 1: working on twenty five and some twenty six, but they 1019 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: you and I think they crushed it again, not only 1020 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: with the draft class with udfas and they drive the 1021 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 1: school bus up to the swimming pool and say it's 1022 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: the first day of swimming lessons, or drive the leaves 1023 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: up to West Point and say here they are. Now 1024 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: it's time to train him, and then the coaches take over, 1025 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: and that's where we're at. 1026 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 2: That's where we're at. It's such a cool thing to 1027 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 2: see the front office grind like they do, and even 1028 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 2: all those tryout guys, I mean those tryout guys are 1029 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 2: meticulously selected. They're here for a reason. It's not just 1030 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 2: like you apply online. I mean the coaching staff is 1031 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 2: given an opportunity to work with these players because the 1032 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 2: front office has identified all of them. These are the 1033 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 2: players we want in here, and maybe one or two 1034 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 2: of these guys will stick and the coaches then evaluate it. 1035 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 2: But we talk about it almost every episode, not every team, 1036 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,720 Speaker 2: and I think actually very few teams have the total 1037 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 2: cohesion and lack of egos and lack of battling like 1038 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 2: the Chiefs coaching staff and the front office because so 1039 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 2: many teams around the NFL, one or the others trying 1040 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 2: to prove that they are maybe the reason that the 1041 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 2: winning is happening or the other is the problem. Not 1042 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 2: the case with the Chiefs. They don't care. They just 1043 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 2: want to win, and they work together better than anyone else. 1044 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 2: And really, Rookie Mini Caamp's a great example of that, 1045 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 2: where the front office is laboring for months and months 1046 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 2: trying to find the thirty eighth tryout guy to bring 1047 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 2: here because they think the coaching staff will appreciate it 1048 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 2: and that it'll make this team better, and that's why 1049 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 2: this team keeps winning and we move forward. Before we 1050 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 2: know it, it'll be OTAs. 1051 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: And sometimes the sticking is in immediate. Sometimes these guys 1052 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: will show up as a practice squad edition later in 1053 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 1: the year, sure even next year, and you're like, oh, 1054 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: that's that guy who is either well, they came the 1055 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: first day of swimming lessons and put their toe in 1056 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 1: the water. 1057 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 2: H the fo