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Speaker 1: Back with another Sunday sampler coming up.

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Speaker 2: On the Bobbycast, Eddie and I talk about the biggest

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Speaker 2: selling music catalogs of all time, and my wife makes

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Speaker 2: an appearance and hey, it's when I try to teach

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Speaker 2: her a history lesson. But you'll hear that on this

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Speaker 2: week's episode in the Vets Office, it's all about a

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Speaker 2: topic that most people don't want to talk about, the

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Speaker 2: sad part about having a pet. She has on doctor

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Speaker 2: Mary as well, who's the co founder of Lap of Love.

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Speaker 2: So let's get started there with this clip from in

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Speaker 2: the Vets Office with Doctor Josie.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to in the Vets Office with Doctor Josie Horschak.

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Speaker 4: Today.

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Speaker 5: I was prior to our interview giving our listeners a

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Speaker 5: little bit of a heads up that these are some

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Speaker 5: heavier tipics to discuss, but important ones, and everybody as

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Speaker 5: a pet owner, at some point will we'll be dealing

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Speaker 5: with them. So I think it's really important that we

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Speaker 5: are able to talk openly about it.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: I know we're such a death adverse society in general,

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Speaker 4: even in human death right and so it's it's not

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Speaker 4: a topic that people want to talk about, but yet

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Speaker 4: they need to talk about it, and then they usually

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Speaker 4: feel better after talking about it, So they just at

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Speaker 4: least know their options, we know what to expect and

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Speaker 4: then can sit back and still enjoy life.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I know I mentioned I just mentioned lap

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Speaker 5: of Love and that you are a co founder and

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Speaker 5: before we dive into all the things, I actually used

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Speaker 5: Lap of Love for one of my dogs previously, and

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Speaker 5: I just want to let you know it was such

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Speaker 5: a great experience. And I know at home usin Asia

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Speaker 5: is not for everyone, but I think it's a great

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Speaker 5: option to have, and I can't say how in a

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Speaker 5: terrible situation, how great of an experience I had.

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Speaker 7: Oh, thank you for saying that.

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Speaker 8: It is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know, it's a personal choice of where

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Speaker 4: I do feel that they're most comfortable in their home

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Speaker 4: and we don't have to you know, do a final

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Speaker 4: ride in the car or anything like that. But also

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Speaker 4: we're a little bit more comfortable in the home and

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Speaker 4: if we want to, you know, grieve in our own way,

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Speaker 4: we can without having to worry about who's seeing us

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Speaker 4: or anything like that. So, but like you said, not

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Speaker 4: everybody wants that, and not everybody can have that because

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Speaker 4: sometimes we're at the emergency clinic or something like that

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Speaker 4: and it's it's unfortunate. So we're very blessed to have

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Speaker 4: such a rewarding career and or niche in the veterinary space,

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Speaker 4: and we love making that last final moment just a

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Speaker 4: bit better.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. One thing I wanted to talk about

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Speaker 5: is I think I'm sure, I'm sure you'll relate to

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Speaker 5: this that as veterinarians, a lot of times people think

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Speaker 5: we are playing with kittens and puppies and running around

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Speaker 5: it's rainbows and butterflies, But a huge portion of our

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Speaker 5: job is taking care of senior patients and ensuring that

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Speaker 5: they're healthy overall and they're comfortable. And so I think

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Speaker 5: a really a big part of our job, and I'll

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Speaker 5: be interested to hear you expand on it is focusing

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Speaker 5: on our senior pets and then also recognizing that age

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I always say age is and a disease, but

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Speaker 4: it does bring disease, and our bodies do start to

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Speaker 4: so it's just it's just a fact of life, even

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Speaker 4: for our humans. But did you know that forty four

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Speaker 4: I love double digits, so the more double digits they have,

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Speaker 7: But forty four percent or over seven years old. And

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Speaker 4: And so to your point, everybody thinks we're playing when

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Speaker 7: But the majority is actually.

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Speaker 5: Seniors, right, And I think that a really important part

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I was just this morning, I

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Speaker 7: And this was just I wasn't in a clinic, Randy,

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Speaker 4: And and he's like, oh, you know, her hips are

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Speaker 7: She's just she's getting old and what are we gonna do?

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, and I wanted, to, of course go

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Speaker 7: So what really makes me sad?

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Speaker 4: And so many people think that doing euthanasias is what

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Speaker 4: makes me sad. I do get sad, but that's not

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Speaker 4: so many older pets have not been to their doctor.

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Speaker 4: And it is about forty nine percent of dogs and

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Speaker 4: cats are not seen by their veterinarian the last year

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Speaker 4: that's where a lot of stuff happens where we can

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Speaker 4: This gentleman with this boxer, he's like, oh, she just

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Speaker 7: And I'm like, oh my gosh, that's so easy to fix.

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Speaker 7: And he just doesn't know. So I would love twice

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Speaker 7: a year's ideal. We got to get him in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not even coming in at all, so how

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Speaker 5: And I think it's like reframing our mindset as owners,

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Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting, like do we say that about

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Speaker 7: So I'm not going to go like we don't. I

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Speaker 4: And I mean, listen, I'm in my I'm in my

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Speaker 4: have to go to the dermatologists tomorrow, and you know,

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Speaker 4: always somewhere in a doctor's office. But we don't say

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Speaker 5: Right, And I think a huge portion of it is

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Speaker 5: And even if you think your pet is perfectly healthy,

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Speaker 5: they still need to go in for their checkup because

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And you know a lot of people will say, oh,

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Speaker 4: Actually And also people have goggles on it they can't

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Speaker 4: Oh you know what, my kitty cat. She's not grooming

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Speaker 4: herself anymore, she's just getting old. No, she hurts, therefore

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Speaker 4: Like, they don't complain, so they actually aren't hiding signs

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Speaker 7: But it doesn't mean they should.

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Speaker 1: Recordings and his voice of one hundred and fifty million. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Motley Crue at twelve one point fifty million, all our

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Speaker 2: he has to develop something else that makes them stand

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Speaker 2: out so much that it becomes so original. And his

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Speaker 2: but like that whole Blood Sugar Sex Magic album, I

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Speaker 2: Love the Children, Like that's our age.

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Speaker 1: I got that from like random health or like you know, you're.

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Speaker 2: I think I you know what I think I did too,

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Speaker 2: Shakira Imagine Dragon.

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Speaker 1: It's both at one hundred million.

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Speaker 1: Stevie Nicks thought it'd be.

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Speaker 2: part of Fleetwood Mac Fleetwood Mac, The Beach Boys at

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Speaker 6: Gosh, that's low zz.

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Speaker 2: Top at eighteen ninety million, James Brown Estate nineteen ninety million,

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one for fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 9: Let me ask you this, when do people decide to

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Speaker 2: Like MI can just tell you have friends that have

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Speaker 2: done it, and mostly it's if somebody makes them a

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Speaker 15: Two?

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Speaker 15: It's Sison. I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.

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Speaker 15: And I said, what is it going to take to

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Speaker 15: get the sore losers in San fran Cisco for Super

442
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Speaker 15: Bowl sixty? Mother Pert? And he said it costs money,

443
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Speaker 15: So iHeart would have to pay a purse and then

444
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Speaker 15: we would be able to get on radio Row. So

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Speaker 15: he said, you'd have to ask the executive above him,

446
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Speaker 15: and if they okay it, that they are fine with

447
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Speaker 15: paying that amount of money, then we would be able

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Speaker 15: to have a booth on radio Row.

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Speaker 16: So you're telling me all these radio shows that are

450
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Speaker 16: on Music Radio Row, whatever it's called, they pay money

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Speaker 16: to be there. They have to pay money to be

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Speaker 16: part of the super Bowl. I would think the super

453
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Speaker 16: Bowl wants them on there and invites them because it costs.

454
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Speaker 16: It gives them so much free advertising. All these people

455
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Speaker 16: and all these sponsors, because every celebrity there is hawking

456
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Speaker 16: some kind of product. Pola, Uh, here are you know?

457
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Speaker 16: I'm here this week on behalf of the window cleaner

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Speaker 16: of this and I'm here, Oh this week, I'm representing

459
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Speaker 16: Tide this week, you know what I mean, because we're

460
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Speaker 16: gonna change the Tide. Oh, this week we're doing a

461
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Speaker 16: smucker suckers.

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Speaker 12: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 16: I really love a smucker sucker before a big game.

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Speaker 16: I thought that was all the advertisers. That's why the

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Speaker 16: radio people are there. They're there for free. I didn't

466
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Speaker 16: know they had to pay to be there.

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Speaker 15: He said he doesn't know the exact amount, but there

468
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Speaker 15: is a price, and it would be a year in

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Speaker 15: advanced things, So us asking him a week ahead of time. Obviously,

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Speaker 15: we can't go to Nola, but San Francisco could be

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Speaker 15: an option if we get the ball rolling and that

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Speaker 15: is a block material. The sore losers are going to

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Speaker 15: San freeing Cisco.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, we might go to San Francisco on vacation. Hey,

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Speaker 16: we ain't going to Radio row. I'll guarant dang to you,

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Speaker 16: we are not going to Radio Row. So one year

477
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Speaker 16: from now when this comes back up, guys, just know

478
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Speaker 16: we are not gonna be in San Francisco. Do not

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Speaker 16: look for us on Radio Row. There is no chance

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Speaker 16: the company would pay the money for us to be

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Speaker 16: in San Francisco. That's all because hotel rooms are gonna

482
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Speaker 16: cost an arm and a leg, and you know what

483
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Speaker 16: they're gonna pay for us nothing. They're not gonna pay

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Speaker 16: the five thousand dollars to put us on Radio Row,

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Speaker 16: and they're not gonna pay the one hundred dollars a

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Speaker 16: night for a hotel room. We will not be in

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Speaker 16: San Francisco. That was the A segment. Congratulations.

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Speaker 15: When was the last time you saw the full househouse?

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Speaker 8: Mother?

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Speaker 1: Gurr?

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Speaker 16: Uh, let's see what year was that that I go

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Speaker 16: to San Francisco.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 16: I went on vacation to San Francisco and it's.

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Speaker 15: Not San Francisco. It's Santa Claire a mother, gurr. Yeah,

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Speaker 15: you're right, because I did. I've been to a Giants game.

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Speaker 16: It was a great stadium, beautiful it looked out at

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Speaker 16: McCovey Cove. That was a phenomenal stadium really well built.

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Speaker 15: Can I tell you the South Beach story about Santa Clara?

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Speaker 16: I would love to hear it.

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Speaker 15: And was there anything else?

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Speaker 16: Again? Still are you still good?

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Speaker 15: He lives in Cincinnati, comes and visits. He came day

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Speaker 15: before after Christmas.

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Speaker 6: Watched it for.

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Speaker 16: Cinnati Cincinnati's in Ohio.

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Speaker 15: Inside joke, and I was thinking the executive He also

508
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Speaker 15: said that it's interesting because there is a lot of

509
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Speaker 15: different clients there, but they're getting pulled in every direction.

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Speaker 15: Of course, but he said he has the access so

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Speaker 15: he could get Like if we were down there and

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Speaker 15: we go, hey, man, can you get us in to

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Speaker 15: go see Colin Cowherd do a show? He could do that,

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Speaker 15: got the actual booth that costs money.

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Speaker 16: Like, if we wanted to go see Colin Cowherd do

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Speaker 16: his show, could we have a moment with Colin cowhert

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Speaker 16: so he could tutor and mentor us.

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Speaker 15: I didn't ask that, but he said he would be

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Speaker 15: able to get us access in the radio row. But

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Speaker 15: to have a booth is a step above him.

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Speaker 17: Got it?

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Speaker 15: And that leads me to this with South Beach dude.

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Speaker 15: So he used to work in la and he moved

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Speaker 15: around a lot with the hotel industry. He's still in

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Speaker 15: the hotel industry or is he very very extensive. He's

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Speaker 15: always worked in food and beverage. It's still he worked

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Speaker 15: at boutiques. He's worked at big hotels, smaller hotels, pandemic hit.

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Speaker 15: He said, that was rough because you had a bunch

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Speaker 15: of peop that we were able to live in the

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Speaker 15: hotel for free, trashed it, were rude, didn't give him tips,

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Speaker 15: didn't pay well, there was nothing but complaints. That was

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Speaker 15: a tough time. That was probably the low point of

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Speaker 15: South Beach's life. But he did work at the Santa

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Speaker 15: Clara Hotel. I'm not going to specifically say which one,

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Speaker 15: and it's right. It's very close to the football stadium.

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Speaker 15: And they go, hey, you are our food and beverage guys.

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Speaker 15: The South Beach doesn't care that I'm telling this story.

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Speaker 15: They said, you're our guy. And guess what the super

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Speaker 15: Bowl's coming in a year? He said, there were all

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Speaker 15: these meetings every Tuesday. There was a meeting about the

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Speaker 15: Super Bowl a year leading up to it. Man, and

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Speaker 15: this is a different one because this must have been

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Speaker 15: a super Bowl three years ago. Probably I have no

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Speaker 15: idea what we've had one.

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Speaker 16: I gotta be honest with you. I don't really know

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Speaker 16: what you could name a super Bowl and I couldn't

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Speaker 16: tell you the location, but go ahead.

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Speaker 15: So I want to say they've had one there. Unless

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Speaker 15: this is the one he was talking about all along,

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Speaker 15: it can't be. But they would have meetings Tuesday, super

551
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Speaker 15: Bowl guys. Here's the protocol. This is all the stuff

552
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Speaker 15: you have to learn. And he knew all the time

553
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Speaker 15: in the back of his head he was going to

554
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Speaker 15: find another job before the super Bowl, so he didn't

555
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Speaker 15: really care that they were building up to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 16: Don't want to be there for the super Bowl?

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Speaker 15: Well, he just knew was give me a headache and

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Speaker 15: a nightmare at his hotel. And so he said, Man,

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Speaker 15: I'm only going to be here for six d eight

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Speaker 15: months that super Bowl. I'll be well long gone before

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Speaker 15: that thing comes around. So they'd have these meetings, all right, Uh,

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Speaker 15: South Beach, how are you and your department? Is everything

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Speaker 15: all shored up and good to go for the super

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Speaker 15: Bowl eight months in advance? Oh yeah, we are good.

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Speaker 15: We have done training measures. I'm doing all kinds of

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Speaker 15: orderings of things. I'm doing a lot of refurbishments, I'm

567
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Speaker 15: also getting a lot of replenishments for all of our products.

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Speaker 15: Everything will be all set.

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Speaker 16: Twenty sixteen. They had it in Santa Clara.

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Speaker 15: So then that was it. And he dude, he said

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Speaker 15: he didn't absolutely nothing for it, so he wasn't. He

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Speaker 15: was just chilling everybody. All the other departments. Oh man,

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Speaker 15: are you starting to get ready for the super Bowl?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, we're doing so much. We're doing a lot.

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Speaker 15: South Beach was doing nothing and he's the whole head

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Speaker 15: of a department and he's just telling the executives, Oh,

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Speaker 15: we are good, I've got it all under control. Maybe

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Speaker 15: four months before the super Bowl, he goes, hey, I

580
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Speaker 15: so he used that hotel as a way to get

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Speaker 15: to a boutique hotel in San Diego. God, and it

582
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Speaker 15: looked awesome on his resume planning for the super Bowl

583
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Speaker 15: and all that. And so then he goes, hey, I

584
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Speaker 15: got a new new job at a boutique in San Diego,

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Speaker 15: So I'm not going to be here to work my

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Speaker 15: department for the super Bowl. Just thought i'd let you

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Speaker 15: guys know that. And they go, what about the sixteen

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Speaker 15: months that we've been preparing for this? And you leave

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Speaker 15: us four months before the Super Bowl, so he left

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Speaker 15: him high and dry. So if you guys went to

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Speaker 15: that Super Bowl, let me know, was the food and

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Speaker 15: beverage in the area.

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Speaker 1: Was it lacking hot?

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Speaker 16: Was the hotels thing? I mean, did they have enough lemonade?

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Speaker 16: Because South Beach didn't order enough. He didn't have the

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Speaker 16: sheets in order.

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Speaker 15: Because if you guys were at the bar sucking on

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Speaker 15: boot lights and they ran out, it was probably South

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Speaker 15: Beach's problem.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm living here him. Super Bowl fifty in San Francisco.

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Speaker 16: It was the Denver Broncos versus the Carolina Panthers. The

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Speaker 16: Broncos won twenty four to ten. Let's see was at

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Speaker 16: Levi Stadium. MVP was Von Miller, The referee was Cleat Bakerman.

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Speaker 16: Attendant seventy one thousand coin toss, Fred Belindakoff, Marcus Allen,

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Speaker 16: Joe Montana, Jim Plunkett, Jerry Rice, Steve Young, halftime show

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Speaker 16: Coldplay featuring Beyonce, Bruno Mars, and Mark Runson. It doesn't

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Speaker 16: have anything about the hotel food.

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Speaker 15: Guys, if you were at the hotel they ran out

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Speaker 15: of toilet paper, probably South Beach.

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Speaker 16: He was at a boots seek in San Diego wiping

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Speaker 16: his ass with all that toilet paper had laughing at you.

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Speaker 15: If you were in the bathroom real quick about to

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Speaker 15: run up to your room or maybe go to a

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Speaker 15: super Bowl after party, and you're trying to look for

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Speaker 15: a Jimmy because you and your girl are getting hot

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Speaker 15: and heavy, and they ran out of him in the bathroom.

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Speaker 15: Probably South Beach.

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Speaker 16: Actually, I blame that on the bathroom attendant. He's supposed

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Speaker 16: to have more of those.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, he was more than I would say he did.

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Speaker 15: Definitely did bar work. So if they ever ran while

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Speaker 15: you were in San Francisco, if they ran out of

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Speaker 15: a shot a drink, pina, a lot of my tie South.

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Speaker 1: Beach person.

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Speaker 10: Feels man.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 12: The funny thing about me doing this podcast is I

628
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Speaker 12: have enlisted pretty much all of my friends to come

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Speaker 12: on just about every episode, and this week is no different.

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Speaker 12: I'm bringing on one of my friends from college, Tory. Tory,

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Speaker 12: how are you feeling right now?

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Speaker 18: I'm feeling better. I'm for getting suttled, ready to go.

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Speaker 18: I'm excited to talk to you. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 12: The whole purpose of this podcast is to share stories

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Speaker 12: of everyday people, and this is one of them. That

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Speaker 12: is inspiring and also difficult in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 12: So I have brought Tory on to share her story

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Speaker 12: as she kind of went into adulthood, Tory got diagnosed

639
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Speaker 12: with cancer. So Tory, I'm gonna let you take this away.

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Speaker 18: I ended up really getting sick in March, dealing with

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Speaker 18: just like physical pain, not really being able to like

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Speaker 18: heal fully. I had a pretty bad cough, which I

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Speaker 18: chalked it up to having you know what I think

644
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Speaker 18: at that point, I was saying like struck throat or

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Speaker 18: something like that, and my lymp notes were just completely swollen.

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Speaker 18: And at one point, you know, my roommate and best

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Speaker 18: friend was asking me, like what is going on here?

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Speaker 18: And that's just kind of what led to me realizing like, okay,

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Speaker 18: I was probably gona get this checked out.

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Speaker 7: Not to mention kind of the ball drop here.

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Speaker 18: My myological mom died from So she died from non

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Speaker 18: Hodgkins and I actually Hopkins, but there is two different

653
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Speaker 18: blood cancers. Again, I'm not the one to go on

654
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Speaker 18: web md and figure out everything about my cancer. It

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Speaker 18: really wasn't my style. I just did what the doctor

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Speaker 18: has told me. My mom did pass from cancer in

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Speaker 18: nineteen ninety nine, so same blood cancer, but kind of

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Speaker 18: different styles. Not hodgkins Ism, a lot less curable even

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Speaker 18: even to date. Really, my cancer is one of the

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Speaker 18: most curable cancers, and actually the age range that I

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Speaker 18: got it is the most common.

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Speaker 12: I'm joined right now by Simone Jisandi. She's a published

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Speaker 12: author and focus is on the education of holistic cancer

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Speaker 12: therapies and disease reversal and just natural health. And I'm

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Speaker 12: so excited to welcome you on, Simone.

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Speaker 14: How are you, Morgan? Thank you so much for having

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Speaker 14: me on. I'm fantastic and I really can't wait for

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Speaker 14: our conversation. We always see all kinds of studies. There's

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Speaker 14: the studies of drink of wine it's.

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Speaker 12: Good for your health, or don't drink alcohol that's bad

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Speaker 12: for your health, or this much or drink this kind.

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Speaker 12: There's everything out there. What's the situation with alcohol? So alcohol,

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Speaker 12: and of course, as you remember, back in the day,

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Speaker 12: and of course, my father, his primary cancer was lung cancer.

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Speaker 12: So back in the day, way back in the day,

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Speaker 12: doctors used to say that you should smoke, And of

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Speaker 12: course then we kind of came to see that.

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Speaker 14: That was not really such great advice. And I know

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Speaker 14: that in the evolution of health, and of course, the

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Speaker 14: more studies we do and the more we're able to

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Speaker 14: actually even look at the figures that we see show

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Speaker 14: up in large populations. So now it's actually and doctor

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Speaker 14: Daniel Amman, who is one of the most important figures

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Speaker 14: in mental health, and he's the one that does a

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Speaker 14: lot of the brain scans he speaks at large So

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Speaker 14: no alcohol is actually safe and it's tied not only

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Speaker 14: to obesity, but a lot of cancer. There's a lot

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Speaker 14: of mental health issues, a lot of degenerative neurodegenerative diseases.

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Speaker 14: So I would not recommend, especially like when you look

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Speaker 14: at it from what the nutritionist in me will look

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Speaker 14: at it and say, what is what are some of

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Speaker 14: the nutrients that show up in alcohol, And there isn't

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Speaker 14: that much, especially like when it comes to cancer, it's

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Speaker 14: a lot of sugar, zero nutrients. And if you were

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Speaker 14: to look at the nitty gritty, especially now, there are

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Speaker 14: a lot of additives, especially red wines are highly colored.

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Speaker 14: There's sulfites, there's tannins. There's just so much that is

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Speaker 14: of no value to the body that the body would

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Speaker 14: actually have to mitigate it really beats up deliver.

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Speaker 13: It really beats up the brain.

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Speaker 14: And you're not taking in anything that the body can

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Speaker 14: actually say, ooh that's really going to help me, like

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Speaker 14: absolutely in no way, shape or form. So I always

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Speaker 14: look at it through that lens if it's not going

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Speaker 14: to be a help. And of course in the health arena,

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Speaker 14: we all say like, you either feed.

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Speaker 13: Health or you feed disease.

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Speaker 14: So everything that you put into the body is going

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Speaker 14: to feed one of those. So which one does alcohol feed?

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Speaker 18: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Unfortunately, you know, it's always hind The hindsight is always

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Speaker 12: twenty twenty when you're looking back at Oh you know

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Speaker 12: now I see that, now I feel that. But you know,

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Speaker 12: we're thirty years down the road and this is where

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Speaker 12: we are. So hey, it's.

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Speaker 19: Mike d And this week a movie Mike's Movie Podcast,

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Speaker 19: I gave my Oscar predictions. Kelsey joined me, she gave

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Speaker 19: me the category, she gave me the nominees, and I

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Speaker 19: went through listed who I think is gonna win, a

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Speaker 19: bunch of snubs and surprises. I also did a spoiler

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Speaker 19: free review of the three and a half hour movie

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Speaker 19: called The Brutalist, which is up for Best Picture, and

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Speaker 19: why I think it is worthy of that girthy run time.

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Speaker 19: But I'll play you just a little bit of this episode.

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Speaker 19: Now you gotta check out the full thing. Right now,

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Speaker 19: here's just a little bit of movie Mike's movie podcast.

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Speaker 19: Kick it off with the first category.

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Speaker 13: We have Best Picture.

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Speaker 17: Oh, the big Daddy.

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Speaker 13: Please never say that again.

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Speaker 17: It's the big Daddy category.

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Speaker 13: I don't like that.

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Speaker 17: Okay's the big one.

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Speaker 13: Are you done?

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Speaker 17: Yes, I've done? Now go ahead.

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Speaker 13: We have Anora Wicked Conclave, Amelia Perez, Dune Part two,

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Speaker 13: The Brutalist, The Substance, a complete unknown. I'm still here

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Speaker 13: in Nickel Boys.

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Speaker 19: The surprise here, I think is Amelia Perez, just because

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Speaker 19: I feel overall it has the most nominations. And I

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Speaker 19: watched that movie and I just didn't quite see what

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Speaker 19: made that movie Best Picture worthy.

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Speaker 13: And I've seen clips on TikTok and that was I've

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Speaker 13: seen what I need to do.

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Speaker 19: I will say the clips make it seem worse than

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Speaker 19: it is. The way I was exposed to it first

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Speaker 19: was everybody calling out Selena Gomez for her Spanish. It

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Speaker 19: was Henny Dibez, who is a great Mexican actor, one

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Speaker 19: of my mom's favorite actors and he was basically saying

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Speaker 19: that they should have had somebody who had more authentic

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Speaker 19: Spanish speaking.

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Speaker 17: I didn't think it was that distracting.

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Speaker 19: The problem was that she speaks such good English that

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Speaker 19: going back and forth between English and Spanish is very jarring.

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Speaker 19: I feel like to do that role you almost have

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Speaker 19: to play it a little bit closer because the character

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Speaker 19: is supposed to be fluent in Spanish from Mexico and

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Speaker 19: then also knows English, but her English is way too perfect,

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Speaker 19: almost like California English that I mean Selida Gomez speaks.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: It was also hard for me to root.

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Speaker 19: For the main character who was a bad person, because

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Speaker 19: what that movie is about, it's a drug lord, cartel

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Speaker 19: leader who wants to change their entire life, change their gender,

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Speaker 19: and then kind of it's like, can you change who

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Speaker 19: you are with? It was hard for me to see

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Speaker 19: past the awful things that they did, and I think

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Speaker 19: it's because my parents are from Mexico. Every time they

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Speaker 19: go down there, their biggest fear is running into the cartel,

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Speaker 19: and I know how much that traumatizes people. It was

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Speaker 19: hard for me to have any sympathy towards that kind

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Speaker 19: of character, and I know the whole thing is supposed

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Speaker 19: to be redemption and she's doing good things.

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Speaker 17: Later in life.

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Speaker 19: But if you look back on the things that not

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Speaker 19: just her character particularly, but anybody in the cartel does,

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Speaker 19: it's like, is that forgivable?

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Speaker 12: I wouldn't say it is forgivable?

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Speaker 13: But is there a way to move forward and be

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Speaker 13: grateful that they're no longer doing those things and doing

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Speaker 13: good things now because the other path is just keep

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Speaker 13: doing bad things. True, I'm just playing Double's advocate here.

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Speaker 17: That was hard for me.

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Speaker 19: Aside from that, I thought it was a pretty decent

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Speaker 19: movie except for the singing. That's the part that was

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Speaker 19: just like this. If it didn't have that in there,

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Speaker 19: it would be a much stronger movie, and maybe it

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Speaker 19: would have moved me a little bit more. Maybe I

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Speaker 19: would have felt a little bit more for the character.

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Speaker 19: But it was all the musical aspects that I thought

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Speaker 19: they're only putting this in to make it feel different,

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Speaker 19: because aside from that, I don't know if it would

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Speaker 19: have stood out as much.

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Speaker 17: So that is what I feel like is the surprise here.

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Speaker 17: Even though it had.

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Speaker 19: The most nominations, I think the winner here. I'm gonna

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Speaker 19: go with the movie. I'm finally going to endorse. I'm

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Speaker 19: going with the Substance.

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Speaker 17: I love that movie, and for a category.

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Speaker 19: That doesn't have one movie that as soon as we

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Speaker 19: watch it, I thought that was Best Picture worthy. The

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Speaker 19: only movie even mentioned that in the review was when

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Speaker 19: I first reviewed The Substance back opening weekend. So that

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Speaker 19: is what I'm going with the winner here. I'm going

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Speaker 19: with my heart. The snubs no Challengers.

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Speaker 13: It was pretty surprising.

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Speaker 19: I thought overall Challengers would have had at least one

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Speaker 19: or two nomination, especially in Best Picture. I thought that

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Speaker 19: was a snub. A Real Pain didn't get a nomination

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Speaker 19: for Best Picture. That was my second pick to win.

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Speaker 19: I said, I wanted to be the Substance, and if

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Speaker 19: the Substance doesn't win, I want it to be a

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Speaker 19: real Pain. But now a Real Pain is not even nominated.

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Speaker 19: I also thought maybe d d would get nominated.

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Speaker 13: So can I add a snub?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Sing Sing?

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Speaker 19: Oh, yes, Sing Sing is not Best Picture. And there

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Speaker 19: are a lot of movies on here. That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,

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Speaker 19: ten movies. Yeah, I would have probably taken out a

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Speaker 19: complete Unknown.

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Speaker 13: I think I'd have taken out Dune Part two, Dune parts.

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Speaker 13: I like to call it Snooze part two with the.

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Speaker 17: Shallow Bay again.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, it's rare for also sequels to get nominated. I

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Speaker 19: would have taken down both of the Timothy Shalloway movies,

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Speaker 19: Sorry to Me, put Sing Sing, and put Challengers in there,

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Speaker 19: just because I think those will be more definitive for

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Speaker 19: twenty twenty four, next category.

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Speaker 13: Best Actor in a Leading Role if Adrian Brody, the Brutalist,

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Speaker 13: Coleman Domingo Sing Sing, Ray Fines, Conklive, Timothy Chalomey and

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Speaker 13: a complete unknown in Sebastian Stan in The Apprentice.

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Speaker 19: Going through some surprises here. I'm surprised Sebastian Stan got

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Speaker 19: a nomination. Surprised snub. I would say Denzel for Gladiator two,

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Speaker 19: but can you just get nominated for being Denzel? I

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Speaker 19: thought his performance was the best character in that movie.

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Speaker 13: They should just have like the Denzel Award, but I.

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Speaker 19: Don't think it was Best Actor worthy. Now I'm gonna

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Speaker 19: do a process of elimination here on who I think

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Speaker 19: is gonna win. I think you take out Timothy Chalamey

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Speaker 19: and Sebastian Stan. Timothy Schallamey was good as Bob Dylan,

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Speaker 19: but there were times where I felt his performance was

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Speaker 19: a little bit weak and Timothy Shallo may kind of

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Speaker 19: shined through.

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Speaker 13: It's very meta. It was like Timothy Schallamey being Timothy Shallamey,

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Speaker 13: and I.

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Speaker 19: Could see that in there, and I think in a

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Speaker 19: great bio pick, you should not see that at all.

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Speaker 19: You should only see that character. So for that reason,

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Speaker 19: and I don't think he deserves it.

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Speaker 13: I didn't go full Austin Butler.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, he didn't fully embrace it, live in it for

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Speaker 19: that long. Sebashian Stan, I'm surprised he's even in the category.

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Speaker 19: I'm taking him off. Ray Fines was great.

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Speaker 17: In Conclave is great, and everything he's he has such range.

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Speaker 17: I mean, he can do Voltimore and he can do Conclave.

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Speaker 19: His performance was so powerful in this movie, and I

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Speaker 19: found myself really enjoying it.

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Speaker 17: But I don't think he wins.

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Speaker 13: Can I make a comparison there? He goes from the

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Speaker 13: dark lord to a man of the Lord.

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Speaker 17: That is true. I didn't even think about that.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 13: That was a real singer.

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Speaker 17: And then Covid Domingo is the one I want to win.

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Speaker 8: I love bad.

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Speaker 13: I am such a fan of his.

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Speaker 19: I can visualize him going up there and giving his speech.

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Speaker 17: I just love his voice. I could hear him just.

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Speaker 13: He could read the phone book and I'd be like, cool,

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Speaker 13: let me listen.

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Speaker 17: I would listen to his Chick fil a order.

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Speaker 19: His voice is just like But I think it's easily

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Speaker 19: Adrian Brody, probably just.

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Speaker 13: Because the movies three and a half hours long. I

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Speaker 13: feel like that guarantees you it's historical.

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Speaker 19: He's won in the past, and I feel like putting

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Speaker 19: him against all these other performances, he is going to win.

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Speaker 19: I think that is an easy call. I would put

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Speaker 19: money that gold, that gold. I would put money that Yeah,

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Speaker 19: is going to take the gold home.

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Speaker 13: That's what I'll try to say Adrian Brode, I said, Brody, Oh,

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Speaker 13: it sound like you put a little emphasis on Adrian Brode.

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Speaker 19: I do have a hard time spelling Adrian. I never

886
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Speaker 19: want to spell it the way he spells it.

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Speaker 13: It's kind of like gray g r A y g

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Speaker 13: R eu I.

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Speaker 17: But for best actor and leading role, Adrian Brody.

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Speaker 8: Adam Carroll, she's a queen talking and it was she's

891
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Speaker 8: getting really not afraid to face its episode soul just

892
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Speaker 8: there flow no one can do with Quid Carne is sound.

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Speaker 3: For Carol, for all of you guys listening and watching,

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Speaker 3: I like to say Ian pretty much invented the inneagram.

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Speaker 20: Oh gosh, that is that is such a gross overstatement. However, however,

896
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 20: I'm flattered. But trust me, I did not.

897
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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what you did, and this is

898
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Speaker 3: what you did. And then you also have the Fix,

899
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Speaker 3: which is coming out.

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Speaker 20: January twenty eighth.

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Speaker 3: So in another ex so this will air on Monday

902
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Speaker 3: and it'll be coming out that Thursday.

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Speaker 17: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So, Ian, you have this amazing ability to take systems.

905
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Speaker 3: It seems like to me like the enneagram, and the

906
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Speaker 3: Fix is based on the twelve steps of recovery, but

907
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Speaker 3: you put them into a form that breaks it down

908
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: that we can read and apply to ourselves so easily.

909
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Speaker 12: Like I feel like you have.

910
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: This gift of putting like the enneagram. I always knew

911
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 3: about the enneagram, but this book breaks it down. It

912
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: explains to you your inneagram number, which if y'all have

913
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Speaker 3: not done the enneagram, it is so worthwhile doing this

914
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Speaker 3: with your entire family and everyone you're close to, because

915
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Speaker 3: you learn, oh my gosh, like my dad's an eight,

916
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Speaker 3: I know how to deal with an eight now, because

917
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Speaker 3: an eight is what is it? What is an eight called?

918
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Speaker 14: It's the the challenger.

919
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 3: So their whole role is to go in and fight

920
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 3: and conquer and to like make moves and be intense.

921
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Speaker 3: And he's always been that way and that's his strength.

922
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: But if you don't realize that that is their personality trait,

923
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Speaker 3: you might, you could, you could, you could get a

924
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: little bit, you could be a little misunderstanding of how

925
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Speaker 3: they operate. Like my mom's a peacemaker, she's a number one,

926
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Speaker 3: and my sister, oh yeah, she's a number nine.

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Speaker 12: My sister's number one. She's a perfectionist.

928
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Speaker 3: And so I also realized, uh, I think I was

929
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Speaker 3: reading No, I was refreshing on the.

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Speaker 12: Road back to you. They all act out of anger.

931
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Speaker 12: That's their their their riold goes.

932
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Speaker 3: To anger, and I'm a four, I'm a is it

933
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Speaker 3: the romantic? So I'm just lost in the middle of feelings.

934
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Speaker 3: So I've always just been overwhelmed with my feelings, internalizing

935
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Speaker 3: everyone and always feeling like I wasn't enough or worthy,

936
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: and I've just when you actually get it in a

937
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: book and you put it all together, you're like, oh

938
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 3: my god, this is why this all makes perfect sense. Yeah,

939
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 3: and you don't feel crazy and you actually can understand

940
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: all the people that you love so much, so much better.

941
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 13: It's just such a tool.

942
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's really useful. It gives people a glimpse into

943
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 20: the interior worlds of other people. What are their core motivations,

944
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 20: what are their fears, what are their predictable patterns of acting, thinking,

945
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 20: and feeling. And it also gives each type of growth

946
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 20: path right because every type has some really beautiful parts

947
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Speaker 20: and they also have some shadow.

948
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Speaker 17: Parts every part. No one's exempt, No one's exempt.

949
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Speaker 20: Like I have a friend of mine who likes to say,

950
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 20: if you want to, if what you're looking for is compliments,

951
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 20: don't play with the enneagram. Like the enneagram is going

952
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 20: to show you in this dark clarity with in high

953
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 20: depth things about you that you will love and go

954
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 20: oh oh, cringe, cringe. So I mean again, that's what

955
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 20: we need, those is we need those kinds of tools

956
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 20: that aid us in examining ourselves and working to become

957
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 20: the best expression of ourselves.

958
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: How did you get We're gonna move to the fix

959
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: Because of the Fix? I think I love the Twelve Steps.

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00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 3: I was in a band with one of my former

961
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: bandmates was in the twelve Step program, and so I

962
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 3: used to go with her to meetings all the time

963
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: on the road when I was like in my twenties

964
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Speaker 3: and thirties, and I was like, man, I used to

965
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: think to myself, like I need this.

966
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 16: Yes, and I yes, you do.

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00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: But I didn't necessarily suffer or like feel like I

968
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 3: had a true addiction. Although now that I examined my life,

969
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: I was never great with alcohol, but I'm like, I

970
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: didn't feel like I had this like blatant, like alcohol

971
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: or drug issue that would take me to the Twelve Steps.

972
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 13: But when I would go with.

973
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Speaker 3: Her, I was like, man, I need I need this,

974
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 3: and this is what fixes. It's saying we all need

975
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: the twelve Steps. It's actually the formula to freeing ourselves

976
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: from our own imprisonment our past traumas. I love that

977
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: you say that you have some great quotes that I

978
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: want to like talk about from the books.

979
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 13: Because you just summon it up so much.

980
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 3: I'll stay one of them. Like here you said, we're

981
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: blasted into the furnace of life without adequate psychological defenses

982
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: to fend off the unavoidable traumas, hurtful messages and emotional

983
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 3: energy injuries we all sustain in childhood. We then load

984
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: these burdens into our little red radio flyer wagons and

985
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: unconsciously pull them behind us into adulthood. Unfortunately, no one

986
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: tells us how to heal these wounds. So in adulthood

987
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 3: we end up developing chemical addictions, behavioral behavioral addictions, or

988
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 3: recurrent self defeating behaviors to cope with our disease. That

989
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: is just it it.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

991
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 20: So part of the premise of the book is, you know,

992
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 20: the Twelve Steps were developed ninety years ago roughly by

993
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 20: a guy named Bill w And up until that point,

994
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 20: people who were alcoholics were just deemed hopeless.

995
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 16: There was no solution to that.

996
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 20: Problem, right, no solution. And he introduced these steps to

997
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 20: you know, his some fellow alcoholics, and they began to

998
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 20: see remarkable transformation, people being freed from the entanglement of

999
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 20: their addictions. Right now, fast forward ninety years and people

1000
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 20: think about the twelve Steps. Oh, it's for those people, right,

1001
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 20: And isn't it nice those people have the twelve Steps.

1002
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: I don't have to worry about it, and I don't

1003
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: have any addictions.

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00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 20: Yeah, And look, here's my point I mean I'm speaking

1005
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 20: as a therapist, right, everybody is an addict. Like, so,

1006
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 20: an addiction is any compulsive relationship that you have with

1007
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 20: a substance, a behavior, or a person that has mood

1008
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 20: alluring effects and negative consequences that you just keep doing

1009
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 20: despite how it's affecting your well being.

1010
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: And you know it's not helping you, but you're like, eh, whatever.

1011
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 20: I'm just going to go one more time.

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00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: We don't.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, right, So when I talk about addictions, so when

1014
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 20: you think about that as a definition, who can't cop

1015
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 20: to that? Everybody?

1016
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Speaker 13: Everyone?

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00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: Right?

1018
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 13: All right?

1019
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 20: So when we talk about addictions, I'm talking about codependency,

1020
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 20: not just alcoholism, drug addiction, overeating, sports, betting people, people

1021
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 20: pleasing perfectionism.

1022
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 13: You know, uh, you wrote a whole list of them.

1023
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 16: I've got about that long.

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00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 3: That is it was so comical because it's literally every

1025
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 3: It's not comical because it's true.

1026
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, social media?

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00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1028
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: Oh who's not addicted to social technology?

1029
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 6: Right? And what is that?

1030
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Speaker 7: That is?

1031
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Speaker 20: Look, human beings carry with them a fundamental big ache, right.

1032
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Speaker 12: I love that that comes out.

1033
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 20: I mean it's always with us.

1034
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 12: I felt my big ache yesterday.

1035
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: I called a friend and I was like, I don't

1036
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: know why I'm need to ball, but I just do.

1037
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Speaker 3: And I don't have a particular reason. I just am homesick.

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Speaker 12: Yeah for nothing.

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Speaker 20: Okay, so beautiful. And what ends up happening is we

1040
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 20: find some external solution workaholism to fix that pain, to

1041
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 20: solve the internal problem right, and then then eventually what

1042
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 20: happens is is that our solution causes more problems than

1043
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 20: the problem that it was trying to solve.

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