1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Can't f I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: Every day we do the show from one until four o'clock, 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: and every day if you miss it, there's a makeup opportunity. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: John Cobelt Show on demand. The podcast posted after four 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: o'clock has the whole show on it. In fact, I 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: would definitely if you're just joining us, listen to the. 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: Two o'clock hour. 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: We had Joel pollakon from Breitbart who talked about his 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: experience as a Padalisade's resident resident putting out the fire 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: with a bucket of water to save his house as 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: Spence was on fire, and speaking up to Donald Trump 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: at that public meeting on Friday, suggesting how about a 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: nine to eleven commission to track all the money that's 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: coming into California to Newsom in Bass because you can't 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: trust them with the money. It's going to be many, 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: many billions of dollars, and what they do in life 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: is blow billions of tax dollars with nothing to show 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: for it. I didn't know anybody in the right mind 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: would get give Gavin Newsom or Karen Bass a dollar 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: And if anyone of Jack's just ask them what happened 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: to the homeless money, what happened to the high speed 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: rail money, what happened to all the COVID unemployment money. 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 2: There's probably one hundred billion dollars there that hasn't been explained. 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: And we'll we'll that's on the podcast You Talk You 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: listen to two o'clock hour and Joel Pollock all right, now, 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: it's Royal Oaks from ABC News, the legal Analyst. There 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: are have been a lot of government screw ups that 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: led to the fire, and a lot of government screw 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: ups that marked the fire response. And there's going to 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: be many, many lawsuits. And let's let's get to Royal 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: on the air to talk about this this whole matter. 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Royle, how are you. 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: I'm doing great, John, And you know you've been talking 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: about this. You should have been a lawyer, because you 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: hit the high points. See, the lawsuits are not just 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: against Southern California, Edison because we think we saw sparks 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: coming from your towers, And it's not just against the 39 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: DWP that let the one hundred and seventy million gallon 40 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 3: reservoirs stay empty for the last eleven years. There are 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: all sorts of other things, failure to warn people, cutting 42 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: the fire department budgets, failure to power down the power 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: and yeah, it's against the utilities to a degree. But 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: already one of the suits has gone against the City 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: of Los Angeles, not yet as far as I know, 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: against Mayor Bass or Governor Newsom. But obviously they are 47 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: folks who a lot of people blame for the reduction 48 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: and budget. You know, at the same time they were 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: spending all sorts of money for green initiative stuff. And 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: the advantages of the suits, John is that once you 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 3: follow a lawsuit, you don't just trust the government. Oh, 52 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: we'll get into the we'll get to the bottom of it. 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: You know, we'll have the commission or whatever. When you 54 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: follow a lawsuit, you get depositions, testimony under oath. If 55 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: somebody alive, then they're committing perjury, five years in prison, 56 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: You get the service of penis, You get all the 57 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: documents that show what really happened. There is a limit. 58 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: There's a doctrine called sovereign immunity that says you can't 59 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: just sue politicians and governmental entities what Willy Neely. It 60 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: has to be a really solid basis there has to 61 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: be more than negligence sometimes, and you can't just sue automatically. 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: You have to follow claim first. The government then says, well, 63 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: here's my response to your claim, and then you may sue. 64 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, just as the fire sworld, we got swirling 65 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: lawsuits now and they're not going to end for years 66 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: and years. 67 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about that doctrine because obviously governments get 68 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: sued all the time. Right, a cop that gets out 69 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: of hand, that could be millions of dollars. Right, if 70 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: there's an unwarranted beating, somebody trips on the sidewalk, they're 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: going to get paid off when it comes down to 72 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: because that's tangible. Right, there's evidence that there really wasn't beating. 73 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: There's evidence that the sidewalk was cracked, bumpy and easy 74 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: to trip on it. 75 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: But what about a situation where you're. 76 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: Not prepared, where you didn't do enough, or you made 77 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: funding choices that were stupid. 78 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: But it does it warrant a lawsuit? 79 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: I mean, can you be held liable for making stupid decisions? 80 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: It makes it tougher when the basis of your lawsuit, 81 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: for example, is that well you reduced the budget. It 82 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: still can work, and you know, the whole sovereign immunity thing. 83 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: It's an age old legal doctor and it basically said 84 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: from hundreds of years ago, the king can do no wrong. 85 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: You can't see the king. But as you point out, 86 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: there are a lot of ways people may soon out 87 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: from crackdive box to any number of things. But it 88 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 3: does add some hurdles. It makes it more difficult to 89 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: go after them. And one of the things that can 90 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: be difficult is demonstrating a clear link between an act 91 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: or inaction by the government and a tragedy. So you know, 92 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: it's yeah, you know, people are going to be suing 93 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: the governmental entities. It's tougher to name an individual, say 94 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: like mayor Bass or governor Newsoman. It is very difficult 95 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: sometimes to get a court to allow a case to 96 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: go forward because the courts are allergic to getting involved 97 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: in politics and they see a case against a politician 98 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 3: and they say, oh, you know, you're trying to make 99 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: me take sides. But here, you know, if the evidence 100 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: is dramatic enough, I mean, you remember what happened with 101 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: Grey Davis. I mean, there are other ways to deal 102 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: with politicians other than just suing them. That the public 103 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: got The sense is you'll recall that, you know, the 104 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: energy crisis was crazy and Gray Davis was to blame, 105 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: and even after it calmed down a little, there was 106 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: enough energy there to get rid of him. And then 107 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: we got Arlold Schwartzenext. 108 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, is there anything actionable when a mayor and a 109 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: city council decides to only have fund the fire department. 110 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 2: I'm sure hardly everybody in LA didn't realize that was 111 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: the case and had gone on for many years. But 112 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: it just seems something that's almost criminal to only fund 113 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: the fire department at fifty percent while you're funding the 114 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: homeless programs with hundreds of millions of dollars of more money, 115 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: and they're the ones starting many of the fires. There 116 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: just seems to be something so wrong there. 117 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're right, it is so wrong, and it 118 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 3: is legally actionable. It's just that it isn't as easy 119 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: as suing just another person or another company. But the 120 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: bottom line is that if you can get, for example, 121 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: expert testimony, people to come in and say, hey, you know, 122 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: I was running public safety issues fire protection in other cities, 123 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: and I'm here to tell you that what these people 124 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: did seems criminal to me, and I'm not somebody that 125 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: can put them in jail, but I'm here to tell 126 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: you that it was absolutely negligent and obviously I mean, 127 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: like this reservoir, it's just infuriating. It reminds you of 128 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: the crazy story. You probably remember it a few years ago. 129 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: Some teenager in Portland, Oregon. It pees into a public 130 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: reservoir that's used for water supply, and they caught it 131 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 3: on surveillance camera. They grained thirty eight million gallons of 132 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: water because this kid pete in the reservoir. I mean, 133 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: it's idiotic, and so they we've got the same deal. Hour, 134 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, there's a tear in our reservoir one 135 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: hundred and seventeen million gallons over in the Palisade area. 136 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: Why we can't have there were bird droppings? One of 137 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: the politicians said, there were bird droppings in the reservoir. 138 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, can't just strain this stuff, can't 139 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: just put some pills in it and get rid of it. 140 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: As opposed to seeing out one hundred and seventeen million gallons? 141 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: What did they think happens in hotel swimming pools all 142 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: the time. 143 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: I mean that that's absolutely and I you know what. 144 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: One hundred and seventeen million gallons with bird boop in 145 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: the U in the reservoir still would have put out 146 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: the fire. 147 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 148 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: So getting back to your point, Yeah, when you have 149 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: an idiotic action and in action by politicians, yes they're 150 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: going to pay the price at the ballot box, but 151 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: they'll also pay the price in court. But good luck 152 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: getting them on criminal stuff, even though a lot of 153 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: people might think that that's appropriate. 154 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: You can't get politicians financially liable though personally, which is 155 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: my dream in life. 156 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately, the laws written by the politicians are very 157 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: effective there. And you know the basis for that is 158 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: we got three hundred and seventy million people out there, 159 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: and yeah, a few million them probably would like to 160 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: spend all their time filing personal, personally oriented lawsuits against 161 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: individual politicians that they hate. Oh boy, I want Liz 162 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: Warren to spend a million dollars to pay to me. 163 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 3: You have to worry about that when you have a 164 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,239 Speaker 3: gigantic population. And so that's why we got some guardrails 165 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: to make sure that you know, politicians don't when they 166 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 3: sign up, they are basically signing themselves up for bankruptcy 167 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: because all sorts of people can sue them. But where 168 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: you have legitimate grievances and people died and people lost 169 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: their homes, yeah, the court system is there and lawyers 170 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: are gearing up to welcome clients and do battle in court. 171 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: What a mess. Well, thanks for coming on with. 172 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: Us Royal Oaks for KFI. Here, ABC News Legal correspondent. 173 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: When we come back the out to Dina fire, a 174 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: lot of out the Dena residents were hurt and Trump 175 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: didn't visit. Also, the origin of the out of Dina fire. 176 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: There's an encampment, homeless encampment near that area, and I 177 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: think Southern California Edison wants you to believe it was 178 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: the homeless that started the fire, which could be except 179 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: now there's video which shows sparking near the electrical equipment 180 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: that may have actually ignited the blaze because the fire 181 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: started right at the bottom of a transmission tower. 182 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: So while so Cal. 183 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: Edison is saying, hey, hey, look at that encampment over there, 184 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: it's probably more likely that it's the sparking wires above. 185 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: We'll tell you all about it we come back. 186 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: You're listening to John cobelt on demand from ko A 187 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: six forty. 188 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: Well, we just had Royal Oakson for ABC News to 189 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: talk about the uh, the blizzard of lawsuits coming against 190 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: everybody in La City and County government for the atrocis 191 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: job that various departments did, both preparing for the fire 192 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: and responding to the fire. 193 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of material there. 194 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's enough tax money to pay 195 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: off all the claims, but there's certainly good reason to sue. 196 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: And on the outa Dina fire, there there is new 197 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: video which shows that the the so Cal Edison transmission tower. 198 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: Nearby the tower, there was sparks, There was arcing as 199 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: the winds were blowing, the wires were touching. There is 200 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 2: video less than a mile taken from the ignition point 201 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: of the fire and it shows the strong winds whipping 202 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: through the area, light flashing on the hillside. The lights flash, 203 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: and attorneys for Attorney's alleged that the video shows arcing 204 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: and sparks falling on the dry hillside and a few 205 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: minutes after the flashes of light, the hillside begins to burn. 206 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: And Edison has said it's premature to come to that 207 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: conclusion yet, and they have said they don't believe their 208 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: electrical equipment was responsible for the fire. Now they're trying 209 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 2: to redirect scrutiny on some homeless people, claiming that there 210 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: was an encampment that included two fire rings, food and 211 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: remnants of a tent. Except the encampment was nine hundred 212 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: feet away or nine hundred yards away, which is the 213 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: equivalent of we last year. It's nine hundred feet that 214 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: would be the equivalent of three football fields and an 215 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: encampment that is that far away three football fields away. 216 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: Could that have caused a fire which seems to have 217 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: started directly under the transmission tower. They they don't seem 218 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: to have video of any vagrants loitering under the transmission 219 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: tower at the time the fire went off. There's already 220 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: been over twenty lawsuits against Southern California Edison, and a 221 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: lot of people seem convinced that it was sparks from 222 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: the wires. Why they didn't shut the power off to 223 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: the wires. How many times do we have to go 224 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: through this? These are the same companies over and over again. 225 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: It's always PG and E and always so Cal Edison. 226 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: It's always transmission wires. They don't shut off the electricity 227 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 2: often enough with high winds. 228 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: What did I hear it didn't? 229 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: Did they say it didn't meet their minimum level to 230 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: shut off. Minimum level is sixty miles an hour, and 231 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: I think the top gust was fifty nine, oh fifty nine, 232 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: not sixty, So we didn't shut off the electricity. They 233 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: actually said that. 234 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: Then you have the. 235 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: People of Altadena and they've got to be pretty pissed 236 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: because so much of the coverage is on the Palisades. 237 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: And then the president comes to town and they hold 238 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: this big news conference and all these officials come out 239 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: in the Palisades and nobody went to Pasadena. Judy Chu 240 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: is the congresswoman from the Pasadena area the Altadena area, 241 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: and said that she was extremely disappointed that Trump was 242 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: not going to personally view that fire, which was quite large. 243 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: I mean, the Palisades fire was twenty three thousand acres, 244 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: eating fire fourteen thousand acres. 245 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 3: But. 246 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: It burned down more buildings. The Altadena fire caused ninety 247 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: four hundred structures to be destroyed compared to sixty eight 248 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: hundred in the Palisades. And I was kind of surprised 249 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: that they didn't do something. They didn't get Trump over 250 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: there for just maybe even a half an hour for 251 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: a quick touchdown. 252 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why. 253 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: You can always make plenty of excuses when you're scheduling 254 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: for the president for the amount of time and the 255 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: logistics and this and that, but it seemed like when 256 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: you because they had it killed seventeen people, eleven people 257 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: in the Palisades, so more people were killed and a 258 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: lot more homes were destroyed as well. And Juanita Wes 259 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: Tillman she lost three homes in the fire. She's eighty 260 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: two years old. She felt ignored. She thought it was 261 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: an atrocious act. It truly sounds like we're being totally discounted. 262 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: Until you see it, you don't know the impact. I 263 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: don't know how he goes to one and not the other, 264 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: and I don't see that he was particularly questioned about it. 265 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: Catherine Barger represents Alta Dina and she talked about it 266 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: during that Friday discussion. Chew was there as well and says, 267 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: I know you've gone to the Palisades and you've seen 268 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: the devastation. It's apocalyptic in Alta Dina. And he says 269 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: Bargerick said, the people in Altadena are the exact people 270 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: you talked to when you ran, so I don't really 271 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: understand why they didn't schedule a stop for him in Altadena. 272 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: That would have meant a tremendous amount of the people there, 273 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: And there really isn't any excuse for it. When we 274 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: come back, talk about the the overall, the overall failure 275 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: that was years in the coming of the California government, 276 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles County and City government. You know, we 277 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: have been out here doing a radio show for thirty 278 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: two years, and this all we have detailed, so much 279 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: of the incompetence, so many of the bad decisions, the 280 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: lack of sense. 281 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: It had to lead to this. 282 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: If I always tell people, I said, look, if we're 283 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: right about how badly this state is run, something really 284 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: bad is going to happen. It has to otherwise we're wrong. 285 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: And I knew we weren't wrong, and maybe it took 286 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: this to happen. Oh my god, you really had to 287 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: give up twenty eight lives and over ten thousand buildings 288 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: to prove what anybody with common sense could see for 289 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: years that our system of government is a complete disaster 290 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: in this state. 291 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: Talk about that when we come back. 292 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 293 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: six forty. 294 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four. I want 295 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: everybody to understand that the feces that you hear from 296 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: politicians and some of the leaders and the fired various 297 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: fire departments, that this was nothing could be done. It 298 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: was unprecedented. We've never experienced this. We've gone through some 299 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: of the history. We've had one hundred mile an hour 300 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: firestorms before. We have Santa Ana wins many times each 301 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: year in January. I can't believe how many excuses and 302 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: the lies have been given out in the past few weeks. Well, 303 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: you know, I usually don't have this in January, Yeah, 304 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: we do. Usually the winds aren't this strong. Often they 305 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 2: can be this strong. And there wasn't a hundred mile 306 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: an hour winds when the fire started at ten thirty 307 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: in the morning, winds were much lower than that. In fact, 308 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: they did run some planes at the very beginning. It 309 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: was a combination of things, a gross lack of preparation. 310 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: They conducted their lot. You judge people by what they do, 311 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: never by what they say, not what they promise. All 312 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: you had to know is they didn't have any strike teams. 313 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: They didn't have any teams pre deployed in the Palisades 314 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: or really anywhere else along the high fire risk zones 315 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: on both sides of the Santa Monica Mountains. The vegetation 316 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: had been overgrown for years. They knew that we had 317 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 2: two extraordinarily wet winners. They knew that. They knew there 318 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: was a lot of thick vegetation that was extremely dry 319 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 2: because it hadn't rained in at least eight months. They 320 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: knew that they had one hundred fire trucks in the 321 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: shop and no mechanics to fix them. They knew they 322 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: had a thousand extra firefighters that they could have deployed 323 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 2: that morning in advance. They didn't send them. They had 324 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: forty engines that were available and not broken, they didn't 325 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: send those. They knew they had one hundred and seventeen 326 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 2: million gaps of water that had been drained out of 327 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 2: the reservoir. They knew all they had were three million 328 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 2: gallons left in the tanks in the city. Uh And 329 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 2: and they must have known if the how do you 330 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: not know the fire hydrants aren't working? 331 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: I mean they just they did not. When the when the. 332 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: National Weather Service says extreme fire warning, you hear all 333 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: the incessant public service announcements in the media, right, God knows, 334 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: we run a million of them. But the people who 335 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: send out these pronouncements in government don't follow them. There 336 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: was there was no interest. Hence Karen Bass in Africa 337 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: of all places, will Swain we've had on the show 338 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: a number of times and he looks at the government 339 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: in the state ruthlessly, and especially on this issue. He's 340 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 2: got a piece called Wildfire of the Vanities, and this 341 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: is in the National Review, and he just goes through 342 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: all the sins that were committed. And this is from 343 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: an outsider looking in that Karen Bass and Newsom ignored 344 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: the warnings that the Santa Ana Wins were returning. Bass 345 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 2: flies to Africa, photographed a cocktail party and by the 346 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: time she comes back, her city was a flame. So 347 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: now we have two dozen people dead, forty thousand acres burned, incinerated, 348 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: more than twelve thousand homes in businesses. This was at 349 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 2: the moment he wrote this, two hundred thousand evacuations, two 350 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty billion dollars in damages. What does she 351 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: do with her time? She battles about climate change. She 352 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: announced that the city is a sanctuary for immigrants in 353 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: LGBTQ youth. Newsom was holding a special session. At least 354 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: he wanted to to raise fifty million dollars in tax 355 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: money to use to trunk proof the state. He could 356 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: have helped fireproof the city, but he didn't. And now 357 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: there he was standing at the bottom of the staircase 358 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: as Trump was coming out of Air Force one, totally defeated, 359 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 2: totally subservient to Trump. Instead of doing the rational things 360 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 2: and rational thing and making friends with the President of 361 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: the United States, the first thing he did after Trump 362 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: was elected is put together a legal fund with our 363 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: tax money to try to fight him, fight him about 364 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: what illegal immigration. 365 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: Here is. Swam also writes. 366 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: He quotes the Los Angeles Times in twenty twenty two, 367 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: and you know, a good newspaper should be the conscience 368 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: of a city and point out when the government is 369 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: screwing things up, alert the public to information that we 370 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 2: ordinarily would not know if it wasn't for the reporters 371 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: and editors. Instead, the LA Times editorial board was a 372 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: bunch of fanboys and fangirls for Karen Bass. They applauded 373 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: her holistic vision. When she ran for office, Bass helped 374 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: write the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act, which was 375 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: an important effort to address decades of racial inequity and policing, 376 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: while admitting the federal government has little authority over local 377 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: police agencies. So in writing about Bass, the Times had 378 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: to highlight her George Floyd Bill that she got passed 379 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: out of Congress, while admitting it has no effect on 380 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: policing because the federal government is not in that business. 381 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: They don't get involved in local policing. So they acknowledged 382 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: that it was just symbolic nonsense. But that was one 383 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: of the hooks to justify the endorsement she should be mayor, 384 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: And in fact Swain looks at her resume and says, well, 385 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: her resume consists of community activism and some time in 386 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: the Assembly of Congress. Meantime, the editors dismissed Rick Caruso. 387 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: He's a man best known for building luxury malls. He 388 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: poured more than sixty million dollars of his personal fortune 389 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 2: into the campaign. Yeah, but he builds beautiful malls, attracts 390 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: millions and millions of customers, creates an enormous economic machine 391 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: wherever he builds these things. 392 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: And he's a. 393 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: Decisive executive, and with the thousands and thousands of employees 394 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: and thousands of decisions he'd have to make regarding the 395 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: infrastructure of his shopping malls, surely he would be a 396 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: better choice to run a large city and all the 397 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: infrastructure that a large city has, as opposed to a 398 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 2: community activist and a legislator who likes to sit and 399 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: shoot the breeze at meetings. Swain reminds us that when 400 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 2: Bass won the mayor's office, she was sworn in by 401 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris and declared a state of emergency to battle homelessness, 402 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: and within a year homelessness was up ten percent in 403 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 2: the city. Meanwhile, Newsom had come to town during her 404 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: campaign and got a lot of TV time clearing a 405 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: homeless camp. Well within three months, well within twelve months, 406 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: homeless people had repopulated the camp again. 407 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: It was just all symbolism. 408 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: And remember the fire started by homeless people underneath the 409 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 2: ten freeway almost destroyed it. Yeah, they never admitted that 410 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 2: it was a homeless guy. When she wasn't failing on homelessness, 411 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: Bass was creating the conditions for another disaster. She appointed 412 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: people whose key strengths appeared to have been their diversity. 413 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: She staffed listen to this, She staffed her city's fire 414 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: commission with teachers' union activists or DEI specialists. The Gang 415 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: of Five did not resist Karen Bess's decision twice to 416 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: cut millions from the city's firefighting budget. Bass says, well, 417 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: she gave the firefighters union higher pay. Well, that makes 418 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: firefighting more expensive, but no more effective. Yeah, that was 419 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: lost in the debate. You could pay the existing firefighters 420 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: more money, but you're short half of fire department. Spending 421 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: more money just raising pay doesn't bring you more firefighters, 422 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: fire trucks, fire equipment, and water. You're just paying more 423 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 2: money to the existing crew. And he talks about the 424 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: urban water system, the fire hydrants running dry, and Bass 425 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 2: said it was unreasonable to expect an urban water system 426 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: to support wildlife suppression. Wildfire suppression. But maybe that's what 427 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: should have been done by Bass and Garcetti and via Ragosa, 428 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 2: is build a water system that could put out a wildfire. 429 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: It's not like we hadn't had a few of those. 430 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: Maybe all that money that they spent on all kinds 431 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: of nonsense. How much money does the state and the 432 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: city spend on illegal aliens tens of billions of dollars 433 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: a year. Why didn't that money go for a modern 434 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: water system that could fight wildfires to fill up the 435 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventeen gallon reservoir. That's what the money 436 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: should go for, not illegal alien health care from cradle 437 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: to grave. Some people don't like to hear that harsh truth, 438 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: but yeah, I'd rather have every dollar go to building 439 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: water systems all over California to store water, to have 440 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: the infrastructure. 441 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: To be able to. 442 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 2: Send the water to the fire zones, and then to 443 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: have double the fire equipment in La to put the 444 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: fires out quickly, rather than fund one. 445 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: Illegal alien's healthcare bill. 446 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: Because for that issue, Trump's doing the right thing, sending 447 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: them back to their home countries where their home countries 448 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: can deal with their issues. 449 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: We've paid too high a price. More coming up. 450 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 451 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 4: six forty. 452 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 2: Listen to the podcast we've posted soon And in the 453 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: one o'clock hour, we went through the Trump Aaron Bass 454 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 2: a meeting that was on television where Bass looked overwhelmed 455 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: because she was up against an executive who can quickly 456 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: make decisions. 457 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: And she was left to shouting. 458 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 2: But I want to keep you safe, safe, And he's 459 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: saying three weeks is a long time. One week is 460 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: a long time. Let's let's let them go tonight and 461 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: start cleaning up their lots. 462 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: Conways, here head out. 463 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 5: At four o'clock, we have the ex president or the 464 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 5: ex head of FEMA. Remember that got Michael Brown. You know, good, 465 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 5: good job, bron you know down in Katrina. We've got 466 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 5: him coming on to talk about FEMA at four o'clock. 467 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: That's a big deal. 468 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's the head of FEMA. 469 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 5: And you know, I'm getting a lot of great feedback 470 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 5: from people who've dealt with FEMA that they said they're 471 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 5: life savers. They're easy to get ahold of, they're terrific. 472 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 5: They're saving a lot of people's lives. So when Trump 473 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 5: goes after FEMA, I think he's going after the top 474 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 5: eschelo and not the guys on the ground. 475 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: Those guys. 476 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 5: But it's like that for everything. Yeah, right, Yeah, it's 477 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 5: not coltrans is a perfect exam. It's not the firefighters, 478 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 5: it's not the police officer. Right, it's management, it's upper management, 479 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 5: that's right. Yeah, that's exactly right. Alex Michaelson's coming in. 480 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 5: He's gonna be on from five to six pm with us. 481 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 5: He wants to see the lay of the land and 482 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 5: maybe fill in every once in a while, maybe for 483 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 5: you or for me or coming here. 484 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: He's coming in in the studio. It's a big deal. John. Yeah. 485 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: I thought he's usually on the air. 486 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 5: Then he I guess he's uh, he's been fired from Fox. 487 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 5: It's looking they get into radio. I don't know what's 488 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 5: going out with that guy. Here's another thing before we 489 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 5: get before we get it, before you gotta get out 490 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 5: of here. 491 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 3: What is that? 492 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 5: I gotta go Okay, I gotta go out and say 493 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 5: he's not fired from Fox? 494 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: Is that right? Okay? 495 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: All right? 496 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: Got ail mighty. It's a joke. The lawyers. 497 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 5: The first lawyer comes in, he goes, hey, can you 498 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 5: clear that up? 499 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: Broke a guy who always stands outside the studio when 500 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: you're on the air. 501 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 5: Hey, here's here's something you know you want to know. 502 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 5: You're gonna want to know if you you have a 503 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 5: go fundme and you're raising money to help you with 504 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 5: this fire, with the you know the damage, and you 505 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 5: put in your GoFundMe to help with fire damage, and 506 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 5: you get FEMA as well. You're gonna have to pay 507 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 5: back every dime to FEMA if it's over a certain 508 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 5: amount of money. 509 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: Is that right? 510 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't double dip dating. Yeah, that's one of 511 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 5: the one of the rules. So you gotta be careful 512 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 5: with how you word these go fundmes. If they're there 513 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 5: to help you with the fire, FEMA's gonna come after 514 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 5: you and say, hey, where's the bunny. 515 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: We gave you? 516 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: You know, I know somebody, uh, their place was damaged 517 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: in the Palisades, they contact FEMA. Somebody had stolen their 518 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: social security Now I've already is that right? 519 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: Yes, my brother's probably done that. 520 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: Damn. 521 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: It sounds like something my brother would do. I think 522 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: your brother was the suspect. 523 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 5: Yes, my brother asked me one day, he says, what 524 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 5: does your signature look like? I'm like, oh, nothing ever 525 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 5: good comes out of that. What's your signature look like? 526 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 3: Oh? I don't know. 527 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: A big business is the resorted that way? Nature look like? 528 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: Got him mighty? 529 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 5: And then we had a video over the weekend of 530 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 5: the rain. Maybe you saw it on our social media. 531 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 5: I'm your big social media guy. John and I used 532 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 5: my bedroom window for the road. But we have We've 533 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 5: had close to four million hits on that thing. Four 534 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 5: million views, this big, huge four million hits views on 535 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 5: a video we put up on social media of the 536 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 5: rain of the Risks, right, yeah, right, people like the rain? Wow, Yeah, 537 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 5: people enjoy it. Was a guy named Kevin Dalton at 538 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 5: the Kevin Dalton. It took off and we got to 539 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 5: give that guy out of boy think gorong with that guy. 540 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 5: All right, all right, big show to monetize that. Yeah, 541 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 5: you know what I was thinking about it, but then 542 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 5: you piss off a lot of people, and you. 543 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: Know, I don't know. I find a sponsor the rain video, 544 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: all right? 545 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: Conways next and then uh Krusher is the news live 546 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. 547 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been. 548 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: Listening to the John Covelt Show podcast. 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