Speaker 1: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and
Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.
Speaker 2: I fucking love him.
Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.
Speaker 4: Big job there, Cook, Duffy and Fret. There are a
Speaker 4: couple of absolutely self involved.
Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.
Speaker 5: Someone said we should get Leon Edwards out of the open.
Speaker 5: Still a big moment. I mean, at what point, maybe
Speaker 5: freshen it up a little bit. Good Monday Tunia, Just
Speaker 5: afternoon in the Eastern time zone of the United States
Speaker 5: of America, Monday, April twenty seventh, twenty twenty six. Thanks
Speaker 5: for being here for episode five ninety three of the
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Speaker 5: for checking in on the Antikamplorian podcast YouTube channel as well.
Speaker 5: Can't flow? Where are you? And what's so funny?
Speaker 4: Uh? Dude here? Comings are so good? Uh, then we
Speaker 4: should freshen it up. I'm good man. I'm in Las Vegas.
Speaker 6: I've been filming battle Bots the last couple of weekends,
Speaker 6: so I've been in and out. I'm actually gonna be
Speaker 6: here in Vegas all week so I'm.
Speaker 4: Experiencing the John Anick life right now.
Speaker 5: So what else do you have plan in Las Vegas?
Speaker 5: So are you gonna go shoot at some targets at
Speaker 5: some point?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: You can see those little targets behind me there. Those
Speaker 6: are Those are called dry fire targets. I've been practicing
Speaker 6: in my hotel room like a Psychostaftuh.
Speaker 4: I can just imagine if someone could see me through
Speaker 4: the window. You're like this guy, I'm calling the police
Speaker 4: right now on this guy.
Speaker 6: But no, I'm I'm hanging out. I got the bigcoin conference.
Speaker 6: I'm in town. I'm gonna be speaking at that, a
Speaker 6: couple interviews this week and then uh and then battle
Speaker 6: Bots end of the week.
Speaker 5: So yeah, keep looking at this guy. I mean, look
Speaker 5: at this fucking I'm glad I asked the question. So
Speaker 5: Nate Bronson, one of our producers, wants to know what
Speaker 5: you're shooting and are you just back in with your eyes?
Speaker 5: Is that what you're doing and just get correct?
Speaker 6: Yes, I got my optic on my pistol, so I'm
Speaker 6: trying to place that little dot like right in the
Speaker 6: exactly where I want to, you know, be So anyways,
Speaker 6: nerd stuff, buddy, But uh, yeah.
Speaker 5: If you're not watching on YouTube, there are some targets
Speaker 5: plastered on the wall behind Kenny Floyd in his hotel room.
Speaker 5: If you're on an iPhone listening via Apple Music or
Speaker 5: Spotify or iHeart Radio, perhaps then it might be time
Speaker 5: to subscribe to the ant conform podcast YouTube.
Speaker 2: Can.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of our audience would actually like
Speaker 5: to see you get up and demonstratively instead of hosting
Speaker 5: the podcast today. Your audio shit anywhere with your fucking
Speaker 5: wire headphone. No, no, it's fine, it's fine. It is
Speaker 5: what it is. We'd rather have you than not. We
Speaker 5: got a little power hour plan. We'll probably belied this
Speaker 5: seventy five minutes because I'm not always short of win
Speaker 5: Ray Longo. Celebration Monday with Ray Longo in about twenty
Speaker 5: five minutes. We always cherish the Mondays upon which we
Speaker 5: can celebrate with Ray after one of his high level
Speaker 5: mixed martial arts athletes wins a fight. Maybe I revel
Speaker 5: in some of those Monday losses as well to give
Speaker 5: him hard time. But huge win for al Jamaine Sterling.
Speaker 5: We will get into all of that. For my money.
Speaker 5: One of the biggest singular fights beckons this weekend, So
Speaker 5: that probably would have been my lead story, except that
Speaker 5: I am potentially hosting a party this Saturday night that
Speaker 5: I'd like to solicit your opinion on and maybe I
Speaker 5: should cancel the party. So if you're a member of
Speaker 5: the Greenwich Police Department, if you could find me on
Speaker 5: social media, that would be great. So my daughter is
Speaker 5: a freshman in high school and I think I've committed
Speaker 5: to host a party this weekend, and I think there's
Speaker 5: a lot of liability involved, Kenny. I mean, I found
Speaker 5: myself googling like a security detail, like I might hire
Speaker 5: an armed bouncer for this thing. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: guest list is fifty. I'm gonna have like eighty freshmen
Speaker 5: and at my house potentially this weekend. So I'm I'm
Speaker 5: looking to see if I can link up with somebody
Speaker 5: from the Granwish Police Department first to maybe soften whatever
Speaker 5: blow is coming. You know, as the kids say, these
Speaker 5: things oftentimes get topped, which means the police come because
Speaker 5: there are a lot of kids and a lot of noise,
Speaker 5: and you know how it goes.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, is this an indoor or outdoor thing?
Speaker 5: It's a good question. So the house happens to be
Speaker 5: pretty conducive to having a party, so these kids would
Speaker 5: have their separate entrance in the basement, but it would
Speaker 5: be indoor outdoor weather permitting.
Speaker 4: Nice, so nice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So you know, I don't know, man, Like I
Speaker 5: think some parents their thesis state and is like, no,
Speaker 5: you never do this, like this is not smart. Uh
Speaker 5: So I don't know. We'll see, but I'm bringing it
Speaker 5: to the masses today to see if perhaps either a
Speaker 5: viewer or a listener or fucking you or a police
Speaker 5: officer might have any suggestion or how this doesn't become
Speaker 5: an unmitigated disaster the custome by job.
Speaker 4: You know, listen, I think it's better to be there
Speaker 4: right your kids, Like, you know, you're you're there, you're
Speaker 4: in the area. You know, you're keeping everybody safe.
Speaker 6: And if I was in the New England area, dude,
Speaker 6: I would drive over, I'd be I'd be security for them.
Speaker 5: So is that what I need? Right? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 5: I would feel more confident if I was Kenny Florian
Speaker 5: where I could just you know, choke Jeremy unconscious if
Speaker 5: he you know, goes at Steven or something, you know
Speaker 5: it just choked Jeremy unconscious and put him in the
Speaker 5: jiu jitsu room for a little bit until he wakes.
Speaker 4: Up right, you just splip Jeremy Stevens two different people.
Speaker 5: I did. I did, so yeah, we'll see. I might
Speaker 5: have something to report next week. But if I'm not
Speaker 5: here for our leading into UFC three twenty eight this week,
Speaker 5: it's because potentially something disastrous happened this weekend. But yeah,
Speaker 5: speaking of which, Kamzachimai a minus four fifty five sean
Speaker 5: strictly wow, that is about a week and a half away, Kenny, So.
Speaker 4: I am fired up for that one, dude.
Speaker 6: It's I mean listen, just just the press conference, just
Speaker 6: like all the stuff leading up to the fight, I
Speaker 6: think is gonna get nuts. I hope that it's not
Speaker 6: too crazy, you know, because I do want to see
Speaker 6: this fight. I hope it doesn't get out of control.
Speaker 6: But those are two guys that are about as unhinged
Speaker 6: as he gets, and you know, phenomenal fighters that I
Speaker 6: think are going to deliver an action packed fight.
Speaker 4: So I can't wait for that, dude.
Speaker 5: That fight is fire, all right. A lot to get
Speaker 5: into today, and we're gonna give Aljamaine Serling his flowers.
Speaker 5: We're gonna get into a massive main event coming up
Speaker 5: in perth Wa this weekend. Long ago, Oh Clifford, a
Speaker 5: lot of things on tap. Let's get to headlines, headlines.
Speaker 3: It's time for headlines.
Speaker 4: I have some very urgent and important breaking new.
Speaker 1: Headlines on the n and Kenny Surians.
Speaker 5: Contast Kenny Jack Dela Madelena has won eighteen of nineteen fights.
Speaker 5: Carlos Protests has won thirteen of fourteen fights. Islama Kashev
Speaker 5: is the undisputed UFC Weltsway Champion. The rumblings continue to
Speaker 5: be that he's going to defend his belt against Ian
Speaker 5: Maschado Gary. But this weekend about as far from where
Speaker 5: I am as you could be in Perth, Western Australia,
Speaker 5: they will shut the octagon door behind the former recent
Speaker 5: UFC Waltz Way champion Jack Dela Mattelena and the divisions Boogeyman.
Speaker 5: I think in a lot of respects the knockout our artist,
Speaker 5: Carlos Protest. I know we're going to get a prediction
Speaker 5: from you later in the program, but because the longo
Speaker 5: minute is going to be so algo intensive, I did
Speaker 5: want to begin with this fight. I think singularly it's
Speaker 5: one of the biggest, baddest, best fights. Then that promotionally
Speaker 5: can be put together and it's like five and a
Speaker 5: half days away. I want to get your thoughts on that.
Speaker 6: Off the top, it's an extremely intriguing fight that again,
Speaker 6: this is one of those fights because they're both primarily strikers.
Speaker 4: The more video I watched, almost the more confused I.
Speaker 6: Got in some ways, just because I think that Carlo's
Speaker 6: Protest perhaps has a style that can bring out the
Speaker 6: best in Jack Dala Modolena. I think it's all dependent
Speaker 6: on if Jack decides to kind of sit back, move
Speaker 6: backwards and try to counter, or if he decides to
Speaker 6: take the fight to Protest. Either way, I mean, it's
Speaker 6: going to be an awesome fight. I don't know if
Speaker 6: it's going to go the distance. I see one of
Speaker 6: those guys kind of getting finished just based on their
Speaker 6: approaches or what I think is going to be their
Speaker 6: approaches heading into this fight. But man, it's a phenomenal
Speaker 6: fight between guys that have been extremely consistent, extremely dangerous,
Speaker 6: and yeah, there's there's a lot of question marks for
Speaker 6: me still, so to me, I can't wait to watch it.
Speaker 4: I think it's a fascinating fight.
Speaker 5: Carlos Protests is the number five ranked UFC welch away contender.
Speaker 5: His daughter is half Australian. I believe lives in Sydney.
Speaker 5: Jack Dela matt Alena is the number one contender, not
Speaker 5: all that long ago, was the champion. He lost the
Speaker 5: belt to Islam Kashev last November at UFC three twenty two.
Speaker 5: So it's a pick them essentially right now. But money
Speaker 5: seems to be moving in the protest direction about minus
Speaker 5: one eighteen right now. On Draftking Sportsbook, my thesis statement
Speaker 5: on protest has been, Kenny, You've heard me say it,
Speaker 5: probably annoyingly so on the Anak and Florian podcast, is
Speaker 5: that over twenty five minutes which this fight is scheduled for,
Speaker 5: and this isn't anything suggestive about the opposition, Jack Dela
Speaker 5: Madelena per se and I know R. J. Clifford has
Speaker 5: a lot of thoughts on the Jack Dela matt Alena
Speaker 5: three named Jack side of this, But my thesis statement
Speaker 5: on protests has been, from my vantage point, from what
Speaker 5: I have seen, best of luck to anybody trying to
Speaker 5: survive twenty four twenty five minutes underneath his power, and
Speaker 5: he has the cardiovascular base, he has the wealth of
Speaker 5: combat sports experience. I just think that Carlos Protests is
Speaker 5: going to be the opposite of a picnic for most
Speaker 5: of these guys, and I think the twenty five minutes actually,
Speaker 5: despite maybe public perception, I think it does benefit Protests
Speaker 5: to have that work on absolutely.
Speaker 6: I would add in the fact that he's unusually tall
Speaker 6: for that division and there's so much versatility to his game.
Speaker 6: He can knock you out with a variety of things.
Speaker 6: Typically when you get these great strikers, it's like Jack
Speaker 6: Dela Modolana, for example, he's known for his boxing, like
Speaker 6: watch out for his boxing. Other guys it's like watch
Speaker 6: out for their elbows or other guys watch out for them.
Speaker 6: You have to watch out for all of those things
Speaker 6: when it comes to Carlos Protests spinning attacks like you know,
Speaker 6: and it's not like, oh, you know, he's almost knocked
Speaker 6: out guys, but he has knocked out guys with a
Speaker 6: variety of strikes. So you know, Jack and his team
Speaker 6: they have their work cutout for him as far as
Speaker 6: scouting and what to watch out for. But defensively, Jack
Speaker 6: dela Madelana is going to have to be on point.
Speaker 6: I also think you can't let a guy that tall
Speaker 6: and that dangerous lead the dance if in my opinion,
Speaker 6: it will not serve Jack well if he's just moving
Speaker 6: backwards for the majority of this fight. And that's how
Speaker 6: proctislikes to fight. He takes the fight to you, he
Speaker 6: backs you up. So an absolutely fascinating fight. I can't
Speaker 6: wait for that one.
Speaker 5: All right, it's this weekend Perth, Western Australia. We'll get
Speaker 5: to the viewing information and the exact time for the
Speaker 5: main car before we get on out of here on
Speaker 5: Paramount Plus. But I know RJ Clifford has some thoughts
Speaker 5: on this, so why don't we go three wide and
Speaker 5: get to that part of the conversation? Rated RJ here
Speaker 5: live on the Anticploy podcast on a Monday. Are Jay
Speaker 5: Clifford where the Raiders had? Is that sort of to
Speaker 5: lead me in an NFL draft direction?
Speaker 7: Or have we all memorized Mendoza by Abba yet for
Speaker 7: Fernando Mendoza coming to the Raiders the new.
Speaker 3: Era, boys, it's a new era.
Speaker 5: You should be excited. You should be so you also host,
Speaker 5: for those that don't know, an NFL podcast that centers
Speaker 5: on the Las Vegas Race titled The Autumn.
Speaker 3: That is correct.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I would expect you to have a great
Speaker 5: name for a show because you're such an intellectual. So
Speaker 5: is there a season draft edition for this show or
Speaker 5: do you guys? Are you seasonal?
Speaker 3: We are, We are.
Speaker 7: Weekly, but we'll also kind of chime in those so
Speaker 7: obviously with the draft has been exclusive draft coverage too,
Speaker 7: But we'll do you mostly like like a post game,
Speaker 7: and then we do our our regular show comes out
Speaker 7: every Thursday morning, and then also whenever the hell we
Speaker 7: feel like it because it's on the Internet and that's.
Speaker 5: Right that we get and that's what you can do.
Speaker 3: So you like the name Autumn wind Bags.
Speaker 5: Does that love? I'd be pritten.
Speaker 3: It is like a wind bag right on them, Win
Speaker 3: win Bags. That's what we were on.
Speaker 7: The fence about starting the podcast until my co host
Speaker 7: Swan Soto came up with the name.
Speaker 3: I'm like, we got it now, we.
Speaker 5: Got it good, Yeah, we're back got it. It truly is perfect,
Speaker 5: And we're still soliciting public opinion in terms of the
Speaker 5: name of your segment on the show. People don't like
Speaker 5: ratedt RJ, then have at it. But we're really excited
Speaker 5: to unveil your new open hopefully by next week. So
Speaker 5: same my thesis statement on anything Carlos protests having nothing
Speaker 5: to do with Jack Dela Matalanta has been best of
Speaker 5: luck holding up underneath that power for fifteen twenty twenty four,
Speaker 5: twenty five minutes, and that's what's in front of Jack
Speaker 5: Dela Madalana this weekend. Now, in your show notes, you
Speaker 5: have said JDM is going to need some new wrinkles,
Speaker 5: which I think he's been hiding. So the floor is yours.
Speaker 5: What are your expectations for this weekend?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've I've absolutely loved watching JDM as a boxer
Speaker 7: who's also an anti wrestler. So oftentimes you think, okay,
Speaker 7: a striker that's fighting wrestlers. It's like you just keep
Speaker 7: distance or you have a really good sprawl, good reaction.
Speaker 7: But he's so good at like body shots to keep it,
Speaker 7: to keep his level low, uppercuts that can like turn
Speaker 7: into an underhook if necessary.
Speaker 3: The way he blocks, like.
Speaker 7: When he sprawls, he doesn't bring his hands down, he
Speaker 7: just brings his whole level down. It's like he's put
Speaker 7: together this great striking style to fight wrestlers, and now
Speaker 7: all those chains are off, like the training wheels are
Speaker 7: now off. Against Carlos protis so I think has one
Speaker 7: takedown in his entire UFC career.
Speaker 3: So it's been a long time since we've seen JDM
Speaker 3: be able to.
Speaker 7: Strike without having to shrug off body locks in double legs.
Speaker 7: So I'm curious to see if he goes back to
Speaker 7: that old way, if he's been working on that this
Speaker 7: entire time but hasn't really had a chance to show
Speaker 7: it because he's fighting in the Balmahamas and stuff.
Speaker 5: Of the world.
Speaker 7: I think those games are in there, but he's either
Speaker 7: gonna have to dust it off or show it for
Speaker 7: the first time.
Speaker 5: This feels like a title fight for me, and maybe
Speaker 5: I'm too insulated, right, but when I look at everything
Speaker 5: that's on the horizon, I've had this fight circled for
Speaker 5: a long time. I couldn't find just how far perth
Speaker 5: Wa was when I looked at the globe this morning.
Speaker 5: But this is huge RJ like, this is huge news
Speaker 5: in a division that is beyond relevant. So forced to
Speaker 5: make a prediction on this fight right now. Carlos Protest
Speaker 5: is minus one eighteen. I know our producer Cody Merral
Speaker 5: was surprised that Protest was slightly the favorite here. I
Speaker 5: am not Doug Kenny and I were not surprised that
Speaker 5: Protest was the favorite. But I mean, can you give
Speaker 5: us a prediction on this fight or do you feel
Speaker 5: like you're covering it too much?
Speaker 3: No, no, I'll give you. I'll give you a prediction.
Speaker 7: Put me on the spot on a Monday too. Well,
Speaker 7: those are the hard predictions. I don't know how you
Speaker 7: do it every week, Kenny the Monday prediction.
Speaker 3: But I think.
Speaker 7: I think as a general rule, As a general rule,
Speaker 7: JDM wins rounds and Protest wins moments and moments beat
Speaker 7: rounds in mixed martial arts. So again, I'm very curious
Speaker 7: to see what jdm's boxing looks like now he doesn't
Speaker 7: have to worry about uh fighting a guy who grew
Speaker 7: up in a single it. Yeah, but also like JDM
Speaker 7: hasn't been knocked out in over a decade and Protest
Speaker 7: hasn't won by anything but knockout since like before we
Speaker 7: knew what COVID was, so like, something has to give here.
Speaker 7: I think what gives is over the course of twenty
Speaker 7: five minutes, Carlos Protests can find that opening.
Speaker 3: And like Katy was saying, it's not just a right
Speaker 3: hand or a left hook, it's the elbows, it's the knees,
Speaker 3: it's the kicks.
Speaker 7: Like that's just it's just basically like kind of odds
Speaker 7: and math for me, Like that much time and that
Speaker 7: many different ways to finish it just seems like there's
Speaker 7: at some point that moment will be there and jdm's gonna, you.
Speaker 3: Know, face up. That's a little too much for him.
Speaker 7: I don't know what the smoking rules are our ac arena,
Speaker 7: but I think process, well, not right.
Speaker 6: After, but I do think r J you make a
Speaker 6: strong point. And this is why it's so confusing to me.
Speaker 6: And as I'm watching a lot of these fights, there's
Speaker 6: a few of them I just need to throw out,
Speaker 6: and it's all the ones that you mentioned, the ones
Speaker 6: against grappler, because I think JDM is way more hesitant
Speaker 6: and tends to try to sit back and counter and
Speaker 6: doesn't throw as much volume when he's facing a grappler.
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, like you said, I think it's
Speaker 6: a great way to put it. I think the shackles
Speaker 6: are going to be off to a certain point. But
Speaker 6: I also because Protest likes to lead the dance and
Speaker 6: because he's so long and likes to establish a lot
Speaker 6: of long range technique techniques. It comes down to whether
Speaker 6: Jack Delamodealana is going to back Proctice up or not.
Speaker 6: I think Jack is at its best when he's backing
Speaker 6: you up, when he's getting you to throw something as
Speaker 6: you move backwards, he's slipping his head and he's throwing three,
Speaker 6: four or five punches, you know, at your head or
Speaker 6: at your body repeatedly. And if he can disrupt Practice's rhythm,
Speaker 6: I think he's got a great chance. But you know
Speaker 6: the fact that he's not facing a grappler, I think
Speaker 6: we're going to see a different Jack than, of course
Speaker 6: we saw in his last couple of fights.
Speaker 7: Are you comfortable enough to say, if this fight goes
Speaker 7: ends by finish, it's Protests, If it goes to a decision,
Speaker 7: it's JDM.
Speaker 4: I think that's pretty accurate.
Speaker 6: I would I would say that Practice certainly has a
Speaker 6: better chance of getting to finish, not then Jack doesn't.
Speaker 6: I just think Protest has a better shot at getting
Speaker 6: to finish. And but it all comes down to whether
Speaker 6: Jack let's Protest take advantage of him or not.
Speaker 4: Like you know, he could.
Speaker 6: Protest could easily get out to a three or four
Speaker 6: round lead and then survive, you know, seven minutes or so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, both guys got a lot of hot you know,
Speaker 5: I really do believe that though. I think potentially if
Speaker 5: we get to a third round and beyond, it could
Speaker 5: be a Fight of the Year contender. I am, yes,
Speaker 5: wit and excited to watch Archie air you wheels up
Speaker 5: to Perth w A.
Speaker 3: Or no tomorrow evening.
Speaker 7: I am on my sixteen hour flight to Citney in Australia,
Speaker 7: three hour layover five hour flight to Perth, Australia.
Speaker 3: So thank god it's the main event that'll.
Speaker 7: Cure jet lag pretty quick because I think Perth is
Speaker 7: the farthest place on Earth.
Speaker 3: Yeah from where I ah, I don't think there's a place.
Speaker 7: I think Antarctica is closer to where I'm sitting right
Speaker 7: now than Western Australia.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I went there three times from the East coast,
Speaker 5: so uh oh, you're going Miami right? You still you
Speaker 5: got that six across the country to La or San Francisco. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so not all glamour in the television world, but this
Speaker 5: main event is just spectacular. You're getting the Q Man too,
Speaker 5: Quill and sal killed as well, so we wish you
Speaker 5: all the best on your travels. All right, guys, let
Speaker 5: us turn our attention if we could uh to UFC
Speaker 5: fight Now what are you laughing? Are you laughing?
Speaker 6: Because I can feel I can feel John's excitement for
Speaker 6: the fact that he doesn't have to be on that flight.
Speaker 5: Yes, so.
Speaker 4: I got to watch that from my couch.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: Have you lost count how many times you've had to
Speaker 7: fly to Brazil? Have you lost counters?
Speaker 3: Don't have that?
Speaker 5: I was I I'm right, I think twenty nine. So
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get to thirty. But we don't seem
Speaker 5: to go to Brazil anymore.
Speaker 7: You get, like said steak knives or something. If you've
Speaker 7: got thirty places one, is this some kind of.
Speaker 5: A war yet? Like I mean, you remember in the
Speaker 5: Cambace and Global days we were going there six seven
Speaker 5: times a year, six seven times.
Speaker 3: You and Brian stan still heading down there.
Speaker 5: On the equator in Fort de Leaza for uh. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I a lot of fond memories, to be sure. All right.
Speaker 5: So I thought Kenny was laughing because it took me
Speaker 5: twenty two minutes to get to Skirling versus the law. No,
Speaker 5: my enthusiasm really like Jack Della coming off a loss
Speaker 5: like that too, I think is intangibly part of this
Speaker 5: fight as well. But yes, the protest stuff right, he's
Speaker 5: like feels like a top five UFC superstar and maybe
Speaker 5: the biggest knockout thread in the company with respect to
Speaker 5: Toporia right now. So yeah, I'm excited and I'm excited
Speaker 5: to watch it on Paramounts plus. All right, Aljamaine Sterling, RJ.
Speaker 5: I know you were impressed with this win and the
Speaker 5: violent nature of it. I mean, my goodness, beauty is
Speaker 5: in the eye of the beholder. But it just feels
Speaker 5: to me like if this win can't be celebrated for
Speaker 5: all things, including its violence, then I just don't know
Speaker 5: what people are looking for. Maybe it's sturdy boxing or something.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but it's Aljamaine Sterling passing yet another
Speaker 5: featherweight test over use of zila. This time around, there
Speaker 5: was a ten eight in there, forty nine to forty
Speaker 5: five times three. Randal, I know you were particularly impressed
Speaker 5: with what you saw over.
Speaker 7: The weekend, blown away, blown away in that he it was.
Speaker 7: It was the Aljamain Sterling. We're used to creative takedowns,
Speaker 7: taking the back right always, always, You're always in danger
Speaker 7: when you're on the ground with Aljamin Sterling, especially coming
Speaker 7: off the movsar of Lawyer of Loss, where he kind
Speaker 7: of got out scrambled a little bit like that was
Speaker 7: I think because he got all the takedowns, but moves
Speaker 7: Are was able to get on top.
Speaker 3: I think that was mostly moves Are just being.
Speaker 7: Just such a physical bully. I think that played a
Speaker 7: really big part of it. So my big question was,
Speaker 7: like I thought that was the X factor, who's gonna
Speaker 7: win the scrambles, and.
Speaker 3: That was part of it.
Speaker 7: But I think the biggest thing that surprised me is
Speaker 7: how good al Jamin Sterliing striking has gotten as its
Speaker 7: own entity, because for the longest time his striking was
Speaker 7: kind of just like here's me killing time until I
Speaker 7: can get on your back. Right now, it's like it's
Speaker 7: a striking style that like I would never teach somebody
Speaker 7: or really like find as like a foundation. But he's
Speaker 7: made it work for him and it's been it's gotten
Speaker 7: so much better over the years, and it's not just,
Speaker 7: like I said, just kind of like just setting up
Speaker 7: takedown so that's always what he wants to do, but
Speaker 7: it's it's functional and it's working for him, and it's
Speaker 7: become its own, you know, It's we talked about all
Speaker 7: the time, like MMA is no longer who has the
Speaker 7: best Muay Thai wrestling in jiu jitsu, it's who has
Speaker 7: the best MMA. And I've rewatched that foot sweep that
Speaker 7: he hit on Zolal in round two where he was
Speaker 7: throwing his right hand to bait Zilol to throw his
Speaker 7: knee and then and then he just swept his the
Speaker 7: standing foot out from under him. I'm like that that
Speaker 7: is just just from game planning to technique, to every
Speaker 7: element of mixed martial arts.
Speaker 3: That was just beautiful. I'm watching a repeat one hundred times.
Speaker 7: It was great, and it's like, you know, really good
Speaker 7: fighters can stop your strengths. Great fighters turn your strengths
Speaker 7: into weaknesses. And that up knee by Zolaal is so
Speaker 7: dangerous and al Jo turned it into a liability. It's like, hey,
Speaker 7: if you throw that, you're on one foot and you're
Speaker 7: ending up with me on your back. So to be
Speaker 7: able to take away, because I thought Zolo fought pretty good,
Speaker 7: like other than.
Speaker 3: That spinning back up where he got taken down. Kenny,
Speaker 3: you tell me like, I don't think.
Speaker 7: There were like a bunch of critical errors from Zalal Really,
Speaker 7: I mean I thought he fought pretty well, but al
Speaker 7: Joe just had him scouted out, had him figured it out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, Aljoe reminds me of saying that some
Speaker 6: is greater than its parts, and I think that, you know,
Speaker 6: with al Jo, the way he puts it all together
Speaker 6: U makes it makes him a very difficult out. And
Speaker 6: the other thing is people always disregard experience.
Speaker 4: A five round fight.
Speaker 6: I mean, I was really surprised that al Jo was
Speaker 6: that big of an underdog. And yes, the lall you know,
Speaker 6: has got a ton of momentum. Things like people forget
Speaker 6: how good Aljo is. It's like they forget that this
Speaker 6: guy was a great champion at one hundred and thirty
Speaker 6: five pounds.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think we're seeing this.
Speaker 6: Level of conditioning and cardio because he's not dealing with
Speaker 6: this massive weight cut and he's not short on strength
Speaker 6: at all. But you know, you really saw him take
Speaker 6: over in rounds four and five. That to me was
Speaker 6: the difference. You know, it's a really hard thing to
Speaker 6: prepare for, Like a five round fight is just a
Speaker 6: different animal completely, and then you have the lights, you
Speaker 6: have the main events, spotlight, all those things. It all
Speaker 6: favored al Jamain Sterling and I think Zallall will be
Speaker 6: a great fighter. I think he's gonna learn a ton
Speaker 6: from this and he may go on to be a champion.
Speaker 6: But at this point of both of their careers, Aljamain
Speaker 6: just had a huge advantage with all of his experience
Speaker 6: and intelligence, and uh Zilul just looked uncomfortable and al
Speaker 6: Jo pressured at the right time.
Speaker 4: It was just a lot of beautiful.
Speaker 6: Execution of tactics and strategy from Aljaminte Stirling, where Za
Speaker 6: Loul was just kind of fighting, you know, he was
Speaker 6: trying to figure things out. Al Jo knew exactly where
Speaker 6: he needed to go. The map was laid out, the
Speaker 6: plan was laid out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like what it's not so much to me.
Speaker 7: What impressed me the most was not so much what
Speaker 7: al Jo did. It's just what Zilal couldn't do, Like
Speaker 7: where were his up andees, where's his Osoto gari?
Speaker 3: Like he does all these cool things, and it was
Speaker 3: just not there.
Speaker 7: And to your point, getting he's just he just seemed uncomfortable,
Speaker 7: like he just seemed like Okay, I just got to
Speaker 7: revert back to like my foundation, so you know, like
Speaker 7: it's like Randy Contour always said, like, if you really
Speaker 7: get a wrestler hurting, he's just going to start wrestling.
Speaker 7: If you really get a jiu jitsu guy uncomfortable, he's
Speaker 7: gonna just fall back on what he knows.
Speaker 3: And I feel like zilaal was just so uncomfortable.
Speaker 7: He just like all the cool shit he's been developing,
Speaker 7: he just kind of reverted back to his original form.
Speaker 7: Like I don't know, like it's like the original Pokemon
Speaker 7: he got evolved and he's going right back to Squirtle.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: It's like and that's all credit. That's not I think
Speaker 7: it's all credits. Al Joe as opposed.
Speaker 3: This is a long kind of losing it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. R J Clifford with us live on the Anakin
Speaker 5: Floran Podcast. Thanks to all of you being here on Monday.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think that managing his health, managing his energy systems
Speaker 5: in fight, all of that easier at one hundred and
Speaker 5: forty five pounds. And beauty's in the eye of the beholder,
Speaker 5: right when it comes to matchmaking, when it comes to
Speaker 5: the aesthetic of a given fight, when it comes to
Speaker 5: the relative fan appeal. I guess for Alexander Volkanowski versus
Speaker 5: al Jamaine Sterling, he was quick to put over movsar Ivloyev,
Speaker 5: whom he fought very closely. I don't know, RJ. What's
Speaker 5: a more interesting conversation for people, like what's next for
Speaker 5: al Jamain Sterling? Or how could and should he be
Speaker 5: more revered? Right, not that he's ever going to be
Speaker 5: as revered as dominant Cruz, but when you look on
Speaker 5: paper at what this man has done, I mean, first
Speaker 5: ballot Hall of Fame doesn't even begin to describe it.
Speaker 5: So I don't know what's the more in conversation, what's
Speaker 5: next or where this stacks up in terms of adding
Speaker 5: to a great legacy for al Jo.
Speaker 7: But the floor's yours, damn rarely put him on the
Speaker 7: spot here, Yeah, I mean you look at Aljiae like
Speaker 7: he's been in the top fifteen for like over a
Speaker 7: decade now, like just sustained excellence over the course of
Speaker 7: two weight classes, and to you know, two division champion
Speaker 7: is certainly within reach. I think so often he was
Speaker 7: purely remembered by so many in MMA, by those pyodr
Speaker 7: Yan fights and that DQ and the controversy, and I
Speaker 7: think just kind of how he leaned into it, I
Speaker 7: think didn't help his matters as much. But you know,
Speaker 7: winning cures everything, and winning with style points cures a
Speaker 7: lot of things. And I think if he just keeps
Speaker 7: winning the way that he does. And I had not
Speaker 7: seen this much love on my timeline of al Jamain
Speaker 7: Sterling ever after that performance, and I think it's taken
Speaker 7: a while for people to start kind of appreciate what
Speaker 7: he's doing because it's it's it's all in the nuance
Speaker 7: and sometimes that you know, that isn't turn into a
Speaker 7: great highlight reel, but he's starting to add stuff to
Speaker 7: the highlight reel that's that's also his nuance.
Speaker 6: Getting Yeah, based on what you saw, are J do
Speaker 6: you think that he is as far as the grapplers go,
Speaker 6: maybe between him and I Vloyev, do you think he's
Speaker 6: the bigger threat to Volkanovski, I think.
Speaker 7: Of I think of Vloyev offers like a one big
Speaker 7: factor of like grappling in top control that is like
Speaker 7: a real issue. You know, It's like it's like fighting
Speaker 7: a guy where you know who's better the guy who's
Speaker 7: an eight and a half at everything or guy who's
Speaker 7: a ten at something, you know. And I feel like
Speaker 7: with alasonder Volkanovsk he's like good luck out game planning him,
Speaker 7: like he might be the best twenty five minute fighters
Speaker 7: since George Saint Pierre. Like he's just scouting guys out
Speaker 7: and getting and figuring fighters out and being able to
Speaker 7: keep up that pace, Like that would be really fun
Speaker 7: him in Alergia because they're all kind of similar in
Speaker 7: that sense, but it sounds kind of boring. But of
Speaker 7: loyev man, like he gets in on that single leg
Speaker 7: or he gets body lock and he gets on top,
Speaker 7: like it.
Speaker 3: Is just it is just a rough place to be.
Speaker 7: So I think I am more intrigued by Alijio, but
Speaker 7: I think of looyev Is is.
Speaker 3: A he's undefeated, right, just doing doing what he does.
Speaker 5: So yeah, man, we're in an era of big fights.
Speaker 5: Nosordini Mava might have to wait because you had to
Speaker 5: strike and make Kamza Chimaya versus Sean Strickland. And I
Speaker 5: do think promotionally they feel like they gotta make Vulcan
Speaker 5: and I of loyev right, I mean Diego Lopez twice
Speaker 5: getting a fight for the belt after you have Loye
Speaker 5: beats him and now potentially you give out Joe the opportunity.
Speaker 5: But if we are in the era of making big fights,
Speaker 5: Volkanovski versus Sterling for me certainly qualifies as a super fight. Randall.
Speaker 5: I appreciate the extra time. Today we got to let
Speaker 5: you go. But the autumn wind bags. We look forward
Speaker 5: to the out of season content and we look forward
Speaker 5: to seeing you next Monday. Safe travels to Perth w A.
Speaker 5: And yeah, hopefully he can join us from an airport
Speaker 5: somewhere next Monday. We'll figure out a way to connect
Speaker 5: because uh it's Chimaia fight week coming up there.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no no no. I land three
Speaker 3: hours on Monday before you guys go live. I we're
Speaker 3: gonna be sleep here.
Speaker 5: I will.
Speaker 7: I will here like an airplane, all right, eye's baggy,
Speaker 7: still probably drunk.
Speaker 3: I will be here.
Speaker 5: All right. Well, you pick your time slot next week.
Speaker 5: You're the man. Travel Safe, Thanks boys, rated RJRJ. Clifford
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Speaker 2: Oh help, man, I'm a little little cock guide. There
Speaker 2: we go, a little bit of.
Speaker 5: Ray up guys. Peter Longo, congratulations adding to your Hall
Speaker 5: of Fame legacy yet again. Yeah, just the way you
Speaker 5: drew it up. I mean, I thought it was just
Speaker 5: an incredible performance in a career full of them. For
Speaker 5: al Jamin Sterling.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Yeah, thank you, and Ben, hats off to al
Speaker 2: Joe Man. I mean, that was a that was a
Speaker 2: veteran performance. That really was in all aspects, even you know,
Speaker 2: talking to him after the fight, that that's a that's
Speaker 2: a that's a true veteran. And his grappling combined with
Speaker 2: the ground and pound perfect. He kept it I thought,
Speaker 2: as entertaining as you could possibly keep it on the
Speaker 2: ground and you know, I even spoke to Hunter Campbell briefly.
Speaker 2: I said, look, man, come on that that's good, and
Speaker 2: he goes, that's what I want. I like to see
Speaker 2: action down there. And you know, so even if it's
Speaker 2: in a grappling exchange, I think he gave everybody what
Speaker 2: they wanted. He kept that thing moving, and even when
Speaker 2: he was like double smacking him at the end, you
Speaker 2: could see. I don't know if that was just frustration
Speaker 2: of just wanting to hit him or just happy it
Speaker 2: was over, but you know, he made it entertaining. He
Speaker 2: really didn't. He was dominant, and I'm gonna say I'm
Speaker 2: gonna use the word veteran performance because I mean whatever
Speaker 2: round he was in the guillotine and he was on
Speaker 2: the ground, he just third third round, right, He said, Look,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna he just gave up the round. He wasn't
Speaker 2: going to expend the energy. And you know, whereas we
Speaker 2: might want him to reversion to get back to his feet,
Speaker 2: he's making those decisions. He's always had a good fight IQ.
Speaker 2: I think he showed it again in this fire against
Speaker 2: a scrappy kid. And I love Zalal and of course,
Speaker 2: Mark Montoya known those guys for years and you know,
Speaker 2: our kid's going a one hundred percent fee back he was
Speaker 2: on the Tampa. It was just I just did think
Speaker 2: al Joe matched up better, like I said last week,
Speaker 2: better than him every way. I just didn't. I really
Speaker 2: wasn't feeling I didn't feel threatened when I looked at everything.
Speaker 2: And you know, he did have a couple of explosive
Speaker 2: knees and he'd go with the calf kicks, but I
Speaker 2: saw it just as many things on the negative side too.
Speaker 2: So Aljae was just great. Great performance, man, great performance,
Speaker 2: and hats off to the guys that work with me.
Speaker 2: He really got a couple of young kids. I want
Speaker 2: to shout out Shane Collins, what a nice kid. The
Speaker 2: other kid that was in the corner, man, he gave
Speaker 2: him a great look during the shakeout. I mean really
Speaker 2: really out of his way, you know, because sometimes you know,
Speaker 2: you go in there, you want to give a guy
Speaker 2: a good look, you start getting hit, you go, fuck,
Speaker 2: I'm going back to the other thing, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. It's hard to do that. But the movement,
Speaker 2: the knees up the middle, he showed him. I felt
Speaker 2: really comfortable after that. He's got the guy who's been
Speaker 2: working with matteas a young kid. Well, what's the name,
Speaker 2: what's I can't pronounce.
Speaker 5: Ellistic ash or whatever. He used to work with Jose
Speaker 5: Aldo for years. Kenny.
Speaker 2: He's just another nice, nice young kid. Everybody I think
Speaker 2: was vibe and I was able to walk in there
Speaker 2: at the last moment. I felt right at home with everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good nice, nice people really and of course Morob. You know,
Speaker 2: it just makes my day whenever I see you know,
Speaker 2: he's just the best. So, uh, Aljo did a good job.
Speaker 2: He's you know, he's got a nice little support team
Speaker 2: and uh, that's all he needs. Man. He just Alja
Speaker 2: was always a guy. He just needs to know that
Speaker 2: people are with him, I think, and he's going to
Speaker 2: go out there and perform and do what he does.
Speaker 2: And I think that's what you saw. Men. Just I'm
Speaker 2: really I'm blown away by his performance because he is
Speaker 2: and you know he did say I believe he did
Speaker 2: tell me years ago like thirty we want to stop.
Speaker 2: And now he's thirty six. I think he's getting better.
Speaker 2: He's definitely smarter, and he's healthier. He's healthy, you know,
Speaker 2: which I haven't seen. Like Chris was always banged up.
Speaker 2: Al was banged up for years. Uh and Matt just
Speaker 2: you know, went to colon quits. He was really just
Speaker 2: I'm done. You know. Sarah's a unique individual in that
Speaker 2: way too. Uh. So al Jose he still got it, man.
Speaker 2: I think he's getting better. He's getting better because al
Speaker 2: Joe knows al Jo and he knows how to fight
Speaker 2: within himself. And you know we always say that, but
Speaker 2: I'm blown away, man by what he did. I really
Speaker 2: think that I am ready that was a pesty kid,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, you know, I don't.
Speaker 5: Know, right, yeah, pesky, Yeah for sure. Kenny. So al
Speaker 5: Jamn Sterling is not a knockout artist, right, but his
Speaker 5: status as one of the most decorated on paper bantamweight
Speaker 5: champions of all time would seem to give him some
Speaker 5: traction in this conversation for a title shot. Now. I know,
Speaker 5: on the postfight they were talking about one more fight,
Speaker 5: and there certainly are many directions in which you could go.
Speaker 5: I mean, he could fight the Diego Lopez, Steve Garcia winner,
Speaker 5: there are names there at the top for al Joe.
Speaker 5: He wants that Movsar fight back in the worst way.
Speaker 5: But is there not a foundation right now to make
Speaker 5: Volkanovski versus Sterling, just based upon what al Jo did
Speaker 5: and could he not just maybe wait for that opportunity
Speaker 5: against whoever the featherweight champion, may be either a rematch
Speaker 5: with Movsar or Vulk.
Speaker 6: I one think that he could fight Volk in his
Speaker 6: next fight. I think that given his pedigree and what
Speaker 6: he's accomplished in the sport, being a former champion in
Speaker 6: one hundred and thirty five pounds and now having a
Speaker 6: lot of consistency against very good fighters at one hundred
Speaker 6: and forty five pounds guys that are good names, guys
Speaker 6: that are highly regarded. I think, no question he could
Speaker 6: fight Volk after Ivloyev and and perhaps you know, if
Speaker 6: Ivloyev loses, maybe they make that fight. You know, I
Speaker 6: don't know if he necessarily needs to fight the winner
Speaker 6: of Garcia and Lopez.
Speaker 4: You know, perhaps they do that too and push things
Speaker 4: down a little bit. But I think Algo is ready.
Speaker 6: I also think that as far as name power, he
Speaker 6: would be the guy to get the next one.
Speaker 9: So yeah, right, I'll tell you Jo, I am I'm
Speaker 9: not upset, but I mean it just they buried that
Speaker 9: fight on that card in the Apex.
Speaker 2: I think that that that would have been such a
Speaker 2: even if it was in a bigger arena, that would
Speaker 2: have just brought a lot more rye balls, I think,
Speaker 2: and I would have helped his case a little more.
Speaker 2: But I feel like it wasn't the best card and
Speaker 2: I think, you know, he kind of saved it at
Speaker 2: the end. I thought that, like again, it was a
Speaker 2: great performance and like him, don't like him, you gotta
Speaker 2: respect the guy. I mean, it's just the way it is.
Speaker 2: I think everybody's confused as to some of the criticism
Speaker 2: this kid gets. But for what reason. I have no
Speaker 2: fucking yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, and the upkicks, the leg kicks, Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 5: I just what I just find interesting is that you
Speaker 5: have grounds for a super fight. I think Masrievloyev should
Speaker 5: be next. You do vulcany Ofloyev right and Volco probably
Speaker 5: be a slight favorite. Whatever, Right, do that fight, see
Speaker 5: what happens. But I would think that you would want
Speaker 5: to just shelve Aljoe right now and potentially be able
Speaker 5: to promote a former champion trying to become a two
Speaker 5: division champion. And does he not deserve that can he like,
Speaker 5: I haven't even gotten to his wins list or the
Speaker 5: records hip.
Speaker 6: Well, especially for al Joe, who likes to take a
Speaker 6: little bit more time, you know, maybe because he is
Speaker 6: a little bit older. I still think he's in his prime.
Speaker 6: I felt great when I was at thirty six.
Speaker 4: But I think that this gives him that much more
Speaker 4: time to prepare and get ready.
Speaker 6: I think he likes that time off, So I think
Speaker 6: timing wise, it works for Al Joe and Ray. I
Speaker 6: would maybe you know, disagree a little bit in regards
Speaker 6: to his placement, and yes, if it was a bigger card,
Speaker 6: more eyes.
Speaker 4: Would be on him.
Speaker 6: But I think it was kind of a benefit to
Speaker 6: have him in that main event fight. He got the
Speaker 6: five round experience, he got to you know, you know,
Speaker 6: all the spotlight was on him, and of course because
Speaker 6: of the card, it wasn't maybe the most exciting card.
Speaker 4: That I thought.
Speaker 6: He delivered a really exciting fight, a highly technical fight
Speaker 6: against a very good opponent, So I think in a
Speaker 6: lot of ways it benefited him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well listen, the I think the small cage on
Speaker 2: benefited but he has five he does have five round experience,
Speaker 2: you know what. I mean so outsure. As he's getting older,
Speaker 2: I think he would rather speaking for him. But you know,
Speaker 2: he does like to take his time and you know
Speaker 2: the three round as you know, you squeeze it another
Speaker 2: two rounds at it a guy, you know, give him
Speaker 2: a break, but it does. It worked out great, It
Speaker 2: looked it worked out great. And uh, look, al Joe,
Speaker 2: al Joe has to be al Joe. When you force
Speaker 2: Aljoe into something, it's it's just not good if he's
Speaker 2: not on board with it, like and I'm not bringing
Speaker 2: this O'Malley thing up for that. But that's the reason
Speaker 2: he did not want to fight the fight. We all
Speaker 2: saw it. We all saw the negotia, we all saw
Speaker 2: what went on, and that's what happened. If you would
Speaker 2: have let Aljoe have his time and you know, dictate
Speaker 2: when that fight was gonna happen, which he deserved as
Speaker 2: a fucking champ with you know already on three title
Speaker 2: to fight, he would have won that fight. I guarantee
Speaker 2: you he would have won that fight. I know, I
Speaker 2: really know al Joe really well, and I was right
Speaker 2: there with him, and it just was a bad mental scene.
Speaker 2: And look, obviously everybody could say you're a CHAMPI you
Speaker 2: gotta do this, you gotta do that, you know. But
Speaker 2: he should have been able to dictate, you know, another
Speaker 2: couple of months. It wasn't. It was nothing unfair. It
Speaker 2: was fucking bullshit. They want to rush that fight. I mean,
Speaker 2: when do we seeing another guy jump in the cage
Speaker 2: like they had him. The guy's doing his speech and
Speaker 2: O'Malley's standing beyond what was you know, it was all
Speaker 2: the whole thing. When you go back and look at
Speaker 2: it was was fucking terrible.
Speaker 5: It really was.
Speaker 2: It was terrible. Yeah, and you know what he I'm
Speaker 2: glad like he said it. I mean, look, he's financially said,
Speaker 2: he's happy and it was a great night for him.
Speaker 2: But you let al Joe do what al Jo wants
Speaker 2: to do. He's going to be a problems.
Speaker 5: He has built a tremendous life for himself, a million
Speaker 5: pep and his Funk Harbor Rum seems to be doing
Speaker 5: really well. I just want to real quickly get to
Speaker 5: a few career stuff, Kenny Ray if I could so.
Speaker 5: John Jones has twenty two UFC wins. Al Jamaine Sterling
Speaker 5: now has eighteen. For some context, Aljamner Sterling's fourteen bantamweight
Speaker 5: wins are the most all time in the UFC, and
Speaker 5: twice against Pyoldrian, Henry Sahudo, TJ. Dillashaw, Pedro Munos, Corey Sanhagan,
Speaker 5: on and on. It goes anyone and anyone. And now
Speaker 5: you look at this three and one at featherweight, only
Speaker 5: lost against map sorr Ivloyev in a fight that a
Speaker 5: lot of people thought he won. Right. I understand that
Speaker 5: we're not in an era of simultaneous double champs anymore.
Speaker 5: But I just believe that when al Jo gets on
Speaker 5: a mic and says, put some motherfucking respect on my name,
Speaker 5: it actually comes from a place of humility, because if
Speaker 5: I were to title this episode of the show, I
Speaker 5: think my thesis statement on Aljo is like, put some
Speaker 5: motherfucking respect on this man's name. Like Domina Cruz might
Speaker 5: be my best friend in MMA, I'm trying to be
Speaker 5: best friends with Kem Flaw. I've been trying to be
Speaker 5: best friends with Kem Flow for a long time. Domina
Speaker 5: Cruz more accepting of the best for now. I'm just kidding,
Speaker 5: But dude, dom is so revered and rightfully so. But
Speaker 5: look at what al Jamaine Sterling has done. Like you know,
Speaker 5: that's why, like we don't give out lifetime achievement awards,
Speaker 5: But for me, if I could grab a minute with Aljo,
Speaker 5: I'd say, your next fight should be for the title.
Speaker 5: I don't care if it's twelve or fourteen or eighteen
Speaker 5: months from now, like you should fucking wait, you know
Speaker 5: that's what I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he should. I think he should as well.
Speaker 6: And and Ray, I think the big pivotal moment for
Speaker 6: me in that fight was, you know, him coming off
Speaker 6: that third round where he lost uh, and I was like,
Speaker 6: this is where we're going to find out what Alja
Speaker 6: is made of if he takes advantage of his experience.
Speaker 6: And boy did he take advantage of that experience. He
Speaker 6: went right as the law. He didn't give him any
Speaker 6: chance to breathe. He knew exactly how to manage that
Speaker 6: throttle for rounds four and five. And it doesn't matter
Speaker 6: how many five rounds you've done in sparring.
Speaker 4: If you haven't been.
Speaker 6: There in a fight, you don't know how to manage
Speaker 6: that throttle and how much you can actually push or
Speaker 6: take off the gas. And that's where Zilul I think
Speaker 6: was nervous, was unsure of himself, whereas al Joe knew
Speaker 6: exactly where he wanted to be, who he was as
Speaker 6: a fighter. And uh and I think that's where Zilal
Speaker 6: just kind of was unsure and Aljo took full advantage
Speaker 6: of it.
Speaker 2: Hi, Kenny, I agree one billion percent with That's funny
Speaker 2: because sometimes when we break down fights, it's this guy's
Speaker 2: got more experience, he's gone, but he proved it. Like
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes we say it, but you know, the
Speaker 2: guy's a little too old and he can't perform al
Speaker 2: Joe did it. I'm gonna harp on the word veteran
Speaker 2: performance because he really did pull from all his experience.
Speaker 2: And I agree with you one hundred percent because like
Speaker 2: even in the third round when he was taken off,
Speaker 2: he took off on purpose, so he knew, like it
Speaker 2: wasn't really coming from anybody in the corner. He knew
Speaker 2: exactly what he was fucking doing, you know, and he
Speaker 2: went out and like you said, he got that fourth
Speaker 2: round back in a big way, and then the fifth
Speaker 2: round was phenomenal to It's just just a great It's
Speaker 2: one of those things where you like when you say
Speaker 2: it was a guy with experience, Like again, I go
Speaker 2: back to it. He proved it, like he fucking proved
Speaker 2: everything you just said. And I do believes Alaal didn't
Speaker 2: have the five round experience and that could have played
Speaker 2: with his head too, because now you think, you know,
Speaker 2: like you just had a great third round. Who knows
Speaker 2: what would have happened if the fight was over there.
Speaker 2: Now we got two more rounds and this guy comes out.
Speaker 2: He's kicking your leg. He threw three kicks, and you know,
Speaker 2: I love, I love when out Joe kicks. I think
Speaker 2: he alluded to you. Doesn't want to think it.
Speaker 4: Was four bottle to the same leg.
Speaker 2: It was just bang, Yeah, yeah it was. It was
Speaker 2: just to me. It's a pleasure to watch it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's still I swear to god, he's still got
Speaker 2: so much more ship standing up that he's never shown that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just still waiting for it to happen.
Speaker 2: But when he's when he's on like that, man's it's perfect.
Speaker 5: So Ray, while you were sleeping, I'm thinking about thoughtful
Speaker 5: questions for the Anakin Florian podcast. So I'm going to
Speaker 5: list five fighters for you guys, right, and one of
Speaker 5: them can't be in the Hall of Fame. Okay, in
Speaker 5: the context of Alja Man Sterling in my mind being
Speaker 5: a first ballot UFC Hall of Famer, And I'm giving
Speaker 5: you five guys who I think deserve to be in
Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame, just to sort of highlight what
Speaker 5: an amazing era it's been for the UFC's band weight division.
Speaker 5: Even though al Jo is competing at one hundred and
Speaker 5: forty five pounds, right, Domina Cruz is going into the
Speaker 5: UFC Hall of Fame this summer, right, So Dominic Cruz,
Speaker 5: al Jamaine Sterling, marab Dwala Schwilli, pyodr Yan, and Shan O'Malley.
Speaker 5: Now we have a one man voting body as far
Speaker 5: as I know for the UFC Hall of Fame, and
Speaker 5: that stay in a way. Right, But Kenny, am I
Speaker 5: not wrong in saying that all of those guys right
Speaker 5: potentially over the next ten years would get into the
Speaker 5: UFC Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: I mean, don't even get me started on like pyodr
Speaker 5: Yan's case, right as a two time chance, like, don't
Speaker 5: eliminate pyoldr Yan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 6: This reminds me of you know, the Golden era, of
Speaker 6: boxing in the eighties where you had Leonard Hagler, you know,
Speaker 6: all the greats in that division, where all of them
Speaker 6: were just phenomenal. Or you know, we can go back
Speaker 6: to the heavyweight division when it was at its best
Speaker 6: with all the great fighters. So yeah, it is, uh.
Speaker 4: It's it's it shows how much.
Speaker 6: The sport has developed and how freaking good this VANDAM
Speaker 6: White division is.
Speaker 4: We talk about this a lot. Again.
Speaker 6: I think it may have surpassed the lightweight division as
Speaker 6: the most difficult. There's so much talent, so much variety
Speaker 6: of styles.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 6: I mean, look at how good Cory sand Higgen is
Speaker 6: and he can't get a belt and may.
Speaker 4: Never get a belt against all these great fighters like it,
Speaker 4: it's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Many You can argue Shot O'Malley, who successfully defended the
Speaker 5: VANDAM waight title and who has a head to head
Speaker 5: winner for Pyotr Jan, maybe has the worst resume of
Speaker 5: the five guys that I.
Speaker 2: Would think it. It's not a not going o'melly, because
Speaker 2: you know, I do love his style, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: know I would think she'd be the weak Lincoln there
Speaker 2: for sure at this point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just interest.
Speaker 2: Plus he's a young guy. He's got a ways to go.
Speaker 2: So right now, you can't you can't think of putting
Speaker 2: them in. But he's got a long way to go
Speaker 2: to prove that he is going to be in there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well now is not an AI formulated question, by
Speaker 5: the way, So there was some footage of a sports
Speaker 5: reporter asking some AI mechanism on her phone questions to
Speaker 5: ask a player after like a tough loss in Cody's now,
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, Cody's writing to me that she had
Speaker 5: a stroke. I'm sorry, I.
Speaker 2: Know I did, John Anick, I didn't know, thank god,
Speaker 2: thank god, thank god. Me and Kenny didn't make eye
Speaker 2: contact with you. We don't know what's going.
Speaker 5: On, So no, stop, all right, Sorry, I as a journalist,
Speaker 5: i'm particularly sensitive.
Speaker 2: To he didn't know. He didn't know?
Speaker 5: Yeah, broadcasters who I mean, there are a lot of
Speaker 5: broadcasters on TV who don't write their own stuff and
Speaker 5: have producers write their own stuff. Uh but uh yeah,
Speaker 5: hopefully we would all be in an era where we can,
Speaker 5: as more of an attack dog journalist, be investigative and
Speaker 5: doing our own question formation. But I apologize. I didn't
Speaker 5: realize there was a medical and now I feel What's what's.
Speaker 2: The difference between asking a You're asking a bunch of
Speaker 2: guys in the gym what their opinion is and getting something.
Speaker 2: What's the difference?
Speaker 4: I don't know what Cody just said.
Speaker 6: It Groc says in order of their candidacy one Volk
Speaker 6: two Dom three Yn four Algie, five Volks not even
Speaker 6: a Bantamway?
Speaker 4: What the hell is going on?
Speaker 5: Come on, Groc, get out of here anyway? Ray, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I got good news. I got vanilla bean. Yeah. Man,
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Speaker 2: I'm freaking jet legged. I need to pick up and
Speaker 2: I'm here holding my ding down while you're fucking drinking
Speaker 2: your coffee.
Speaker 4: You gotta be holding a throne.
Speaker 5: If I don't get to your gym before my forty
Speaker 5: eighth birthday.
Speaker 2: Wait, when is that?
Speaker 5: That's July third?
Speaker 2: See like the wait first somebody put up al Joe's
Speaker 2: birthday was the thirty first. He was saying he was
Speaker 2: thirty six. Man, I think he's jumping the gun. I'd
Speaker 2: sucked out that thirty five for his many more. You see,
Speaker 2: when you're young, you can do that me. I want to.
Speaker 2: I'm sucking it out right till the last.
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Speaker 5: enough on Aljamain Sterling, is it not right? Like Kenny dissic.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, right, I.
Speaker 2: Know I'm looking at uh Cody just put up to
Speaker 2: al Joe's was born July thirty first, nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2: I think that's the year I had my first Jake
Speaker 2: boxing CHIMPI Jesus, I gotta get the fuck out of you.
Speaker 2: I cannot believe he was born in eighty nine.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 5: I mean it makes you feel better hanging out with
Speaker 5: Kenny Floorian born in nineteen seventy six, You know it.
Speaker 2: Makes me feel a lot better. It's the year the
Speaker 2: year I graduated in high school. At least that's a
Speaker 2: little closer.
Speaker 4: Eighty nine.
Speaker 2: I was booking in eighty nine. Holy shit, Oh god,
Speaker 2: were you getting old day for pussy's Kenny? Stay young,
Speaker 2: stay fucking young man.
Speaker 5: Were you born in the Roar in twenties? No, you
Speaker 5: were born.
Speaker 4: It must have been something before electricity?
Speaker 2: Right? Holy shit?
Speaker 5: Were you born in the fifties?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 5: I was fifties. I love telling people that I was
Speaker 5: born in the seventies. It makes them feel better that
Speaker 5: I So that's certainly enough on alta man Sterling, right.
Speaker 5: I mean Kenny was so respectful and disagreeing earlier with
Speaker 5: your assessment that somehow this might have been elevated by
Speaker 5: being on a numbered card. I would have said crazy either.
Speaker 5: I'm just no, I'm just saying underneath Joshua and Tatsu
Speaker 5: retire and HAMZACHIMAIAV and Sean Strickland, I don't know that
Speaker 5: it gets Monday Morning quarterback to death the way.
Speaker 2: That's good, that's anyway, very valid.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: But wait, and who made him the underdog in that fight?
Speaker 2: What's the matter with these odds makers?
Speaker 5: Well, hopefully you can buy your own thrown sport coffee
Speaker 5: because you loaded up on algia, did not.
Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to bet?
Speaker 5: What do you mean You're not allowed to bet?
Speaker 2: Oh? I thought we weren't allowed to bet.
Speaker 5: Who were you asking? You're asking me, I don't asking, Well,
Speaker 5: who said you're not allowed?
Speaker 2: I don't know anything. I know. I didn't see a thing.
Speaker 5: Well, I would think that would have been a big opportunity. Uh.
Speaker 5: And it's so funny because our great All the Smoke
Speaker 5: social team posted something that you said that al Joe
Speaker 5: doesn't deserve to be the underdog and that you're backing
Speaker 5: him in the fight. And I think some of the
Speaker 5: comments were a little bit wayward, like people don't know,
Speaker 5: you're you're just assessing the mixed Martial arts, Like, obviously
Speaker 5: you're backing your guy, but you're certainly not the only one.
Speaker 5: I thought the betting line was out of whack, you know, I.
Speaker 2: Mean it is really bizarre. People are listening, People are
Speaker 2: people are crazy at this point, you know.
Speaker 5: Anyway, all right, so this weekend and Cody, if you
Speaker 5: could chase the viewing information time for the main card
Speaker 5: on Paramount Plus, that would be spectacular. Maybe it's standard
Speaker 5: prime time here in the States, but Ray Carlos protests
Speaker 5: Jack Della Maddelena. We'd first ask you who you think
Speaker 5: is the betting favorite, and ultimately we will need a
Speaker 5: pick in order for you to get on with the
Speaker 5: rest of your day. Main card seven am Eastern. Ah ah,
Speaker 5: let's go, I'll get my fuck.
Speaker 2: Wait what was the main cards?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Seven pm? Am am? Oh yeah, okay, we'll be watching it.
Speaker 5: You won't be watching that. Oh that's like right, and
Speaker 5: you go to bed like three, I mean four am.
Speaker 5: Just stay up watch Uh.
Speaker 2: I got a better shot at doing that than getting
Speaker 2: up and watching them. I'll probably be up at four.
Speaker 5: What about for the main card at seven Carlos protest
Speaker 5: walks about nine am. That'd be tough.
Speaker 2: You know, I think I'm getting my best sleep, like
Speaker 2: six to eleven at this point.
Speaker 8: Ha.
Speaker 5: So are you prioritize eight hours of sleep?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I tried to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what time's going to bed? Last night? You're all
Speaker 5: over the place today.
Speaker 2: Huh uh last night I did get to bed. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say by one, which was good.
Speaker 6: All right, So I'm finally on the I'm finally on
Speaker 6: the West coast, and I have to watch your main
Speaker 6: card for it.
Speaker 5: Oh that's right, that's the wait.
Speaker 2: The betting favorite I'm gonna take again? I would I
Speaker 2: would think it's going to be very close, but I
Speaker 2: would go with practice.
Speaker 5: They probably made the Benning brilliant analysis from Raymond. You're
Speaker 5: absolutely right, Carlos protests slight favorite right now minus one eighteen?
Speaker 5: Who do you like to win the fights?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, Like, in my head, it is a pick them. Uh.
Speaker 2: The other guy's coming off the loss. You know that
Speaker 2: effects him. I don't know. I love Jack Della Maulena,
Speaker 2: but uh, that's a good fight. I might have to
Speaker 2: go with.
Speaker 5: Practice on this interesting. Interesting seems to be a lot.
Speaker 2: Of it's a Pickam fight. I think for sure a.
Speaker 5: Lot of protest support out there. All right, man, well
Speaker 5: I'm glad you're back on the East coast. Another productive
Speaker 5: jaunt to the UFC Apex. What was the atmosphere like
Speaker 5: in the meta Apex? Seemed like some rowdy supporters for
Speaker 5: Aljo there.
Speaker 2: No, uh, I didn't think anything too uh okay, too rowdy.
Speaker 2: It's it's I tell you, it really is just an
Speaker 2: intimate setting, though it is.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 2: It's cool on that that respect. But uh, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know. No, I thought his his guys were good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think it was too rowdy.
Speaker 5: All right, buddy, Well we appreciate the time. Have a
Speaker 5: great day and a better evening. And uh, next Monday
Speaker 5: is a big one. UFC three twenty eight fight week,
Speaker 5: Newark City.
Speaker 2: All right, oh man, big time with you coming out.
Speaker 5: I will be their wheels to the waveles. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm here. I am about forty nine minutes I think
Speaker 5: from the rock right now.
Speaker 2: Wow. Nice, that's great.
Speaker 4: That's nice.
Speaker 2: Isn't that feel better?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I love living up here with all these New Yorkers.
Speaker 5: For a Boston guy, it's great, you know.
Speaker 2: I maybe we could do something special next.
Speaker 1: Better than.
Speaker 2: There you.
Speaker 5: I mean, getting that perth itinerary in an email is
Speaker 5: just straight anxiety.
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy how that works? I don't blame you.
Speaker 2: I really don't blame you, right anyway, guys?
Speaker 5: Oh god right, congratulations every week here on the Ankaporan Podcast.
Speaker 5: And it's too mean to ray fucking.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: I think it really worked out for Aljoe having the spotlight.
Speaker 5: Is there anything else that you would like to talk about?
Speaker 5: It seems as though Joscelyn Edwards now is Yossele and Edwards.
Speaker 5: I just called a fight of hers a few weeks ago. Uh,
Speaker 5: whinning streak is no more.
Speaker 4: I was heartbroken and all a lot of different ways,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 5: You know, I was.
Speaker 6: Tempted to kind of split that thousand and kind of
Speaker 6: go have these on Al Joe to maybe make a
Speaker 6: little more money. I thought Norma was gonna win that fight,
Speaker 6: like you know, Joscelyn Joscelyn Edwards. I don't know, she
Speaker 6: fought well, you know, she was a little bit more active,
Speaker 6: but I thought that was a big, big fail by
Speaker 6: big norm.
Speaker 5: There you go, there you go. Eleven decisions across the
Speaker 5: thirteen fights at UFC Fight Night Stirling versus Allow and
Speaker 5: big things of course coming up this weekend. UFC Fight
Speaker 5: Night Della Mattelena versus Protests or ac Arena in Perth, Wa,
Speaker 5: one of my favorite places to go. I just wish
Speaker 5: you could knock me out for the forty one hours
Speaker 5: door to door, Kenny. We got two quick breakdowns today
Speaker 5: and then we'll get to the bets Co main event
Speaker 5: at lightweight. Widespread quill and Sal killed minus four seventy. Ooh,
Speaker 5: widespread panic. That's the name of a band, is that right?
Speaker 5: That might be a no, A good call one time
Speaker 5: if an underdog comes through. If Banil Dariush wins, widespread
Speaker 5: panic as Quillan Sal killed gets choked unconscious in his
Speaker 5: native Wa. All right, quill and Sal killed minus four
Speaker 5: seventy Banil Darius plus three sixty. So dar Usche was
Speaker 5: to face Manuel Torres at UFC three twenty seven earlier
Speaker 5: this month in Miami. Torres pulls out and now Benny
Speaker 5: Darusse putting his number twelve ranking on the line against
Speaker 5: WA's own Quillin Salkild, who is four and ohero in
Speaker 5: the UFC twenty six years of age. He is all
Speaker 5: the rage can flow. Quill and Sal Killed, Bino Darusse.
Speaker 5: What do you see?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 6: I think that sell Killed certainly is the favorite. I
Speaker 6: don't know if he's that big of a favorite. I
Speaker 6: think Benil does have some value there. Obviously, he hits hard. Uh,
Speaker 6: he's excellent on the ground. I think that's where Seal Killed,
Speaker 6: you know, has won a lot of his fights on
Speaker 6: the ground. I don't think he would have a huge
Speaker 6: advantage against someone like Daryush unless he's.
Speaker 4: Able to get that top position.
Speaker 6: However, you know Darius's chin, his durability has not been
Speaker 6: what it used to be.
Speaker 4: And I do think Seal Killed is the.
Speaker 6: More dangerous striker, the more skilled striker, and he's better defensively.
Speaker 6: So I like Sal kild in this spot. I'm not
Speaker 6: sure it's worth, you know, the odds necessarily, but yeah
Speaker 6: give me.
Speaker 5: Selfe yeah, massive number, all right, A lot tighter on
Speaker 5: the main event. As we have spent a lot of
Speaker 5: the show discussing today, one of the biggest fights of
Speaker 5: the year. Protest was minus one fifteen now minus one
Speaker 5: eighteen Della matt Alena close to even money. So Dela
Speaker 5: Mattlena failed in his bid to successfully defend the weltsweight
Speaker 5: title against Islami Kashev last November and UFC three twenty two.
Speaker 5: And you know, to say that left some sort of
Speaker 5: taste in his mouth would be the understatement of the year.
Speaker 5: I would imagine that for Ben Vickers, his coach and
Speaker 5: everybody else, it is just all systems go, all chips
Speaker 5: in the center of the table, heightened sense of sort
Speaker 5: of focus in preparation, and I expect a great effort
Speaker 5: out of Jack. Della made lane at the question for me,
Speaker 5: as you know, can these other elite welterweights hold up
Speaker 5: underneath that type of weaponry over twenty five minutes? Now
Speaker 5: is the time we'll need a prediction on the main event.
Speaker 6: Can flip well, I may be all out of bullets John,
Speaker 6: We've been talking to him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, I just made a pick.
Speaker 4: No, you know what. But there's a couple other things
Speaker 4: I do want to mention.
Speaker 6: You know, the fact that it is in Australia. I
Speaker 6: think that that definitely can play a factor in this fight.
Speaker 6: I think the other thing is, you know, their motivation
Speaker 6: heading into this fight. Jack, I think you know, wants
Speaker 6: to come back and come back strong, get a great
Speaker 6: win in his home country and then proctes.
Speaker 4: You know, some people may be you, does this guy
Speaker 4: buying into his star status? Is he maybe taking his
Speaker 4: foot off the gas with training and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 6: I think he understands that he's been getting a lot
Speaker 6: of great fights going his way and he is very close.
Speaker 5: To a title shot.
Speaker 6: So coming up big in in enemy territory would be
Speaker 6: huge for him in his career. And I think that
Speaker 6: if he is the guy that is pursuing, if he
Speaker 6: is the guy that is leading the dance, I think
Speaker 6: he wins this fight.
Speaker 4: I think Jack is fantastic.
Speaker 6: I think there's some value on his side, no question
Speaker 6: about it, especially if he is the guy that's moving forward.
Speaker 6: But it's going to be really difficult to do against
Speaker 6: a long, lanky, potent striker like Carlos Protest. So I'm
Speaker 6: gonna go with the Brazilian here.
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Speaker 4: We can skip over that if you like. Now go
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Speaker 10: I'm very hesitance here, make a big ditch match. I
Speaker 10: like you, Carlos Pratch gotta putch. We're gonna putch one.
Speaker 4: Thousand jawlish on Carlis Pratch.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 4: That's how confidance I am.
Speaker 5: Wow, all right, let's go man, so protests minus one
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Speaker 4: On him, Oh nervous, Oh yeah, let's do it? Why not?
Speaker 5: It's I mean, I feel like you've just heard me
Speaker 5: keep saying, like, dude, how's anybody gonna fucking hold up
Speaker 5: on a twenty five minutes underneath Carlos protests? But no,
Speaker 5: I mean it's early in the week, right, All the
Speaker 5: betting lines are out there, the proposition markets aren't yet open,
Speaker 5: so uh we'll see how it goes this weekend. But
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Speaker 4: What do we got? Shout out to my buddy David
Speaker 4: who got the p s.
Speaker 6: A ten Conham McGregor doing the repacks, by the way,
Speaker 6: he was pretty pumped what we got here.
Speaker 5: This is the problem. That's demir Is Magoulav. It is
Speaker 5: goodbye p s A ten. We love demir as a fighter.
Speaker 5: It's just not what Kenny, right, I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking to spread my investments elsewhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, divert kamire Is Magoulav three times
Speaker 5: in the thread. So all right, Kenny's gonna purchase again,
Speaker 5: and he's gonna see if he can reel something in.
Speaker 5: And I have some cards in my collection that will
Speaker 5: be given away to listeners of the anacon Florian podcast.
Speaker 5: Carla Ascarza a black and white autograph card. Okay, I'll
Speaker 5: read say nine. So the buy back is forty four dollars.
Speaker 5: Interesting proposition. This is a twenty seventeen upper deck Goodwin
Speaker 5: Champions Kenny Black and White Asparza autograph. I'm gonna sell
Speaker 5: that Ken Flow is gonna sell that back, getting forty
Speaker 5: one eighty eight back on his sixty dollars. And part
Speaker 5: of this is to give you guys the knowledge of this, right,
Speaker 5: So I end up when we get off the air,
Speaker 5: I spend all day in here, right, and I get
Speaker 5: a little bit addicted, and the collectibles dot com charges
Speaker 5: are coming in. But no, if you don't necessarily want
Speaker 5: to repurpose the card, right, you just sell it right
Speaker 5: back and then that forty one dollars goes back in
Speaker 5: the can. And then you try to reel in a
Speaker 5: big one. You know, I got greedy. I sold an
Speaker 5: Algamain Sterling autograph card back, and I got a Dan
Speaker 5: Murkley auto card on the next draw. I love the
Speaker 5: big Tan, but I was trying to get a car
Speaker 5: that was worth sixteen hundred bucks. All right, here we go.
Speaker 5: I'm a fight mma repacks. I got two draws today.
Speaker 5: Let's go. Oh yeah, look at that XPR balance. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna spend all of these as soon as we get
Speaker 5: off the air. No whammies, no wammies, Bruno Fhajeda. We
Speaker 5: like the Hulk. We don't love the PSA eight, but ooh,
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty four dollars, Yeah, you could do
Speaker 5: some hi back solid hit, it says, that's so Hulk.
Speaker 5: What am I supposed to do with that? Twenty twenty
Speaker 5: five tops chrome Bruno phajeeded, this is the biggest hit
Speaker 5: we've had as yet on the program Red Refractor PSA eight.
Speaker 5: But they're saying solid hit. We're just gonna chill on that. Okay,
Speaker 5: whoa Nate's telling me to sell it and get two cards.
Speaker 5: Can't I sell it after we get off the air.
Speaker 5: This is too much pressure right now, live naked, but yeah,
Speaker 5: I probably should. All right, let's just buy it now.
Speaker 5: Now I'm getting anxious. But we got a big hit
Speaker 5: on the Bruno Fajeda all right, solid hit, not a
Speaker 5: big hit? A solid hit?
Speaker 4: Is this?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 5: We gasp? Premium on leaded only ninety three the Polar
Speaker 5: Bear Sergey Spivak Oh PSA nine buy back is going
Speaker 5: to be fifty bucks or so, we're gonna sell that.
Speaker 5: We're gonna sell that right back, code blue, We're gonna
Speaker 5: code read that, all right, all right, Okay, I feel
Speaker 5: good about my Bruno the Hulk Fajeda. He just lost
Speaker 5: the rematch to RoboCop Hobo Cop. Yeah, all right, well
Speaker 5: we'll see. I'm gonna go into the Collectibles dot Com
Speaker 5: application uh later today. I actually am going to go
Speaker 5: to a card store in armanc, New York. Here in
Speaker 5: the next little bit, I dug up some garbage pail kids,
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna see if they're EXU. All right, we
Speaker 5: gotta get out in here. Thanks to our all the
Speaker 5: Smoke Fight family, thanks to Cody Marrow, Nate Bronson, thanks
Speaker 5: to r. J. Clifford and Ray Longko, Jason Annick, everybody else.
Speaker 5: We are right back with you to recap Della Mattelana
Speaker 5: and protests come Monday, and then of course we will
Speaker 5: get you ramped up for UFC three two h you
Speaker 5: maya versus strict. Then, thank you all for being here
Speaker 5: for subscribing. We'll talk to you next Monday. Until then,
Speaker 5: have a great day and a better even gold It