Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,
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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. Without further delay, this is Talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: for a Tuesday, November thirteenth, two thousand and eighteen. After
Speaker 1: a win over the Eagles on Sunday night, we start
Speaker 1: looking ahead to the birds of a different feather, the
Speaker 1: Falcons Sunday. Like Jones, Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips, Brian brought
Speaker 1: us Ken Garrison doing yeoman duty as we had a
Speaker 1: little bit of a power outage to get things going
Speaker 1: here and we're still fighting through some of it as
Speaker 1: you could hear there. But we are on the air
Speaker 1: with Talking Cowboys, and you've missed the first half hour
Speaker 1: of the show where we were talking everything button boys
Speaker 1: at last forty minutes every sport in North America. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could have started the show off and we'll be
Speaker 1: joining Mickey, Rob and Brian and in a moment, yeah
Speaker 1: a second okay week and really you use that's right?
Speaker 1: It worked last week, so mickyay, I tried it again.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you using it again this week. Brian is
Speaker 1: a superstitious man. I am very vari all right. So
Speaker 1: here we are and Jerry Jones was on the radio
Speaker 1: this morning and we'll get into some of the things
Speaker 1: that he talked about this morning. But the Cowboys will
Speaker 1: the players? I didn't even hear it. Are they back
Speaker 1: at it today? Are they? They've given an extra day
Speaker 1: off the normal schedule light side tomorrow. We got an
Speaker 1: availability in the locker room this afternoon thing, so yeah, gang,
Speaker 1: so it's normal normal for them. Yesterday though, that's right.
Speaker 1: I mean they land what you landed at what time?
Speaker 1: Four thirty in the morning, about four fifteen, four thirty,
Speaker 1: and then they were at the Salvation Army social service
Speaker 1: centers in Dallas and four Worth by eleven am, probably
Speaker 1: to do to serve Thanksgiving dinners. So they might have
Speaker 1: just pulled all nighters. That's right. They're young enough to
Speaker 1: do that, ye try. Plus they sleep on the plane, Dodd,
Speaker 1: They Yeah, there was a lot of it was pretty
Speaker 1: quiet going home. There was a lot of sleeping going
Speaker 1: on behind it was quiet. Okay, change since I've been
Speaker 1: on him. There was only about four people working and
Speaker 1: two of them are in here. Means Bill and I
Speaker 1: weren't working. That's right, we weren't working, Yeah, William and
Speaker 1: Nick Yeah, Hellman, hellman. Sorry he was next to me,
Speaker 1: although he did fall asleep finally. Yeah, all right, we
Speaker 1: are wide awake and getting at it right now. And
Speaker 1: y'all did you all hear Jerry Jones on the radio
Speaker 1: this morning? Any of you here? Jerry? I heard the most.
Speaker 1: I think I missed the first five minutes. All what
Speaker 1: was your big takeaway from that? He didn't read comic books,
Speaker 1: that's right. Hmmmm. Asked him about the passing of stan
Speaker 1: Lee and it's stan Lee, right, Yes, that's right. And
Speaker 1: uh so yeah that was the last question. Anything else.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that the report about over the
Speaker 1: weekend with the uh the changing of the offensive court tour,
Speaker 1: I thought we should go oh sorry, yeah he was.
Speaker 1: He was waiting on you, Bill, waiting on you. I
Speaker 1: was gonna see if mill Mickey was going to ask
Speaker 1: answer the question, but yeah, he did the thing. I
Speaker 1: think that that to me. Uh. Jason Garrett was on
Speaker 1: earlier in the morning with the same guys and they
Speaker 1: asked him, and he said absolutely none, no truth, and
Speaker 1: then left it at that, and then that the owner
Speaker 1: general manager came back and made it a little bit
Speaker 1: more depth to it. And also, you know, I think
Speaker 1: that's a I think that we've all been pretty clear
Speaker 1: on this show that we don't see a coaching change.
Speaker 1: You know, you're going to ride this thing out and
Speaker 1: see what you get. And you know, I had a
Speaker 1: nice win the other day, and you know, at the
Speaker 1: end of the year, end of the year, you add
Speaker 1: him up and you see if you were good enough.
Speaker 1: I think there's no there's no reason to make any
Speaker 1: type I mean, now they change the offensive line coaches,
Speaker 1: and I do want to ask you guys a question
Speaker 1: about that coming up. But yeah, I think that you
Speaker 1: have to you know, you just stay the course with
Speaker 1: what you got and see where it takes in and
Speaker 1: make the decision from there. I thought Stephen was even
Speaker 1: more emphatic about it yesterday. Yeah, when he was on
Speaker 1: in the after well I guess late morning early afternoon show,
Speaker 1: he said, if the only people who would know about
Speaker 1: something like that would be in the room discussing those
Speaker 1: kind of things, and we had no discussion about it,
Speaker 1: So nobody else outside our room would know. So it
Speaker 1: is what it is. And yeah, Jerry has said it
Speaker 1: recently that there will be no in season coaching moves.
Speaker 1: Like Brian said, they're gonna They've made some bye week
Speaker 1: changes in personnel and with a position coach upfront offensive line,
Speaker 1: and what they did the other day is what they're
Speaker 1: hoping they can do the rest of the season to
Speaker 1: try to make a run here, and they're gonna have
Speaker 1: care was this exact quote. I don't know where that
Speaker 1: came from. We didn't consider that at all. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: will say this, I've said it before and Mickey will
Speaker 1: echo it. Be weary of the Sunday morning reports on
Speaker 1: things going on on NFL campuses because these reporters they
Speaker 1: are under pressure to have something fresh on Sunday mornings
Speaker 1: for their NFL pregame shows and so they've got to
Speaker 1: come up with something. And so that you would agree
Speaker 1: with that, Mickey, especially mister fifty fifty. Well, everybody's got
Speaker 1: a job to do, you know. Sometimes you know it's
Speaker 1: not fresh though, because they're not day to day into it.
Speaker 1: You know, I think there was, well they have to
Speaker 1: save it for Sunday morning. Yeah, I mean, there was
Speaker 1: a one that you know, the Cowboys Garrett had had
Speaker 1: discussed with Nick Saban about Amari Cooper. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: we kind of talked about that during the week, But
Speaker 1: you're right, because it's a seven day cycle before they
Speaker 1: hit and they gotta You're right, they got to deliver
Speaker 1: something big on Sunday, and if it truly was news,
Speaker 1: if they truly did have a story there, they wouldn't
Speaker 1: wait till Sunday morning to report it. They report it
Speaker 1: whenever they had the news, which on Thursday or whatever
Speaker 1: day of the week it was. So it's it's all speculation,
Speaker 1: is all it is. Yeah, I could say I you know,
Speaker 1: you knew that they were going to stay the course
Speaker 1: as far as the head coach and the coordinator. Now,
Speaker 1: the head coach did leave open the opportunity of him
Speaker 1: potentially calling place last Tuesday. He did leave that open
Speaker 1: the way his comments, that's something that wasn't made up.
Speaker 1: So if you want to go off that right exactly,
Speaker 1: that's actually that's fair. And that's what led us to
Speaker 1: talk about it on Friday. The possibility because Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: was asked about it last Tuesday at his press conference
Speaker 1: and what how did he phrase it? For now, right now,
Speaker 1: right now, right now? He said, yeah, right now, right now,
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, yeah, that's not going to happen right now.
Speaker 1: You could yeah, you could take that as a qualifier.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'll guarantee you on the headset,
Speaker 1: he's changing things. He's making suggestions. That's what I should
Speaker 1: have asked him in the walk off yesterday. And I
Speaker 1: was kicking myself leaving of you know, was there more
Speaker 1: conversation between you and Scott other than get a play
Speaker 1: ready for fourth down? You know, coaches will click over
Speaker 1: and say, hey, I'm thinking about this right now, and
Speaker 1: fourth down, have something ready, you know, just to kind
Speaker 1: of give the play call or an idea of what
Speaker 1: he's thinking so you know that you don't get caught
Speaker 1: we have to burn the time out or something like that.
Speaker 1: But I wonder if there was a little bit more
Speaker 1: discussion than normal than the normal Hey Scott, what are
Speaker 1: you guy? And you know, he could hear the plays
Speaker 1: and you know, you would think that you know, maybe
Speaker 1: he says, hey, go back to your run here, go
Speaker 1: back to your you know, try and get Coop involved
Speaker 1: here a little bit more. You know, maybe it was
Speaker 1: there was there more, And I'm kind of kicking myself
Speaker 1: for not asking that question, But don't you think that's
Speaker 1: a standard procedure when you get into those situations. I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of times where we see Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett on the sidelines and he's very intent on listening
Speaker 1: to what's going on. And he seemed he appeared and again,
Speaker 1: I my advantage is getting to sit there and watch
Speaker 1: the game in a studio, and it appeared he was
Speaker 1: a little bit more animated, and I mean animated waving
Speaker 1: his hands, but a little bit more conversational in this
Speaker 1: game than he normally was. But I don't mean that
Speaker 1: just for him. I mean for regular head coaches to
Speaker 1: tell your offensive coordinator, Okay, you've got two plays to
Speaker 1: pick this up. Yeah. No, that's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask the question whether there was there
Speaker 1: more discussion about play calling as opposed to you're generally
Speaker 1: what you're saying about, Hey, I'm thinking about going on
Speaker 1: fourth down here? Are you a little bit more involved?
Speaker 1: Are you a little bit more involved? Not that you
Speaker 1: got the sheet in your hand, but I missed an
Speaker 1: opportunity right there are the last three or four games
Speaker 1: he's been more involved. Yeah, and I don't know that
Speaker 1: Scuba follow up making way and either making suggestions or saying, hey,
Speaker 1: let's go with this. Yeah. I just think I mean,
Speaker 1: he's the head coach. Why not. That guy's got your
Speaker 1: job in his hands. And then and I think you
Speaker 1: got to have some sort of communication, especially sometimes when
Speaker 1: you're up there and I'm down here, right, I got
Speaker 1: a better feel maybe of what's going on exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean, you see better up there, but sometimes you
Speaker 1: don't get the feel of what's going on the players.
Speaker 1: Look at the players eyes, look at the player's eyes
Speaker 1: and see if they got it or not. You know that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Jimmy used to do that routinely
Speaker 1: with North Turner. He would tell North, if you got
Speaker 1: two players to pick this up, pick it up, figure
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah. Well, the other thing is if you're
Speaker 1: in and that would be a great question, Brian, But
Speaker 1: if you're in Jason Garrett's position, knowing their speculation out
Speaker 1: there about it, you're coming off a good game if
Speaker 1: you answer that question, Yeah, I was more involved than
Speaker 1: it makes it look like that you were the reason
Speaker 1: that there was even more positive you know, and so
Speaker 1: I guess, even if it is off the record, right,
Speaker 1: if I was a fan, if I was a fan,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean we cover this team.
Speaker 1: But if I was a fan, I after what I've
Speaker 1: seen and I and I trust me, I respect Scotland
Speaker 1: in Ahan, but I would have wanted Jason after what
Speaker 1: I saw in Tennessee, I would have wanted Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: to start calling plays. I would, I think Jason. I
Speaker 1: think Jason Garrett is a very capable play caller, I
Speaker 1: really really do. And I think that he I think
Speaker 1: he could get I thought, well, I think he could
Speaker 1: get more guys involved. But you know, Scott did a
Speaker 1: nice job in the game. And now whether Jason was
Speaker 1: directing him a little bit more or kind of talking
Speaker 1: to him a little bit more, I don't know. But
Speaker 1: I do know that the offense the way that it
Speaker 1: ran the other night, and I don't think it was
Speaker 1: just as simple as take you know, put Sue Philo
Speaker 1: in there at at left guard. I think the fact
Speaker 1: the addition to front office made with Mauri Cooper has
Speaker 1: played huge dividends here. You know, the offense appears to
Speaker 1: have that we had a call or yesterday talk about
Speaker 1: a little little bit more juice, you know, a little
Speaker 1: bit more juice with the with the offense. But you know,
Speaker 1: if they had had a bad game in Philadelphia on
Speaker 1: Sunday night, I would have been when the first ones
Speaker 1: coming in your Monday morning saying Jason Garrett needs to
Speaker 1: call the plays. That would have been me. You know,
Speaker 1: looking at that Cooper trade now and when you look
Speaker 1: at what's going on around the league with the points
Speaker 1: being scored in this league, you look back at that
Speaker 1: that that was a move that had to be made.
Speaker 1: And it's not just and I'm not talking about just
Speaker 1: for this year, but going forward. Yeah, I think we're
Speaker 1: looking at this year what the NFL is going to
Speaker 1: be like, not only this year, but next year and
Speaker 1: on down the road. Where the emphasis on scoring points
Speaker 1: in this league and it's always kind of been like that,
Speaker 1: but it's gone. It's almost like it's on steroids now
Speaker 1: where you're getting team scoring over fifty points in games
Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, where you had to improve that aspect
Speaker 1: of this Well, they're not letting you smash receivers over
Speaker 1: the middle, and they're not letting you hit the quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they're encouraging you to score points and find ways
Speaker 1: to score points. They're making it very difficult for defenses,
Speaker 1: as we all know. But the violence, the violent aspect
Speaker 1: of playing defense now is no longer prevalent in the
Speaker 1: way these games are being play. The rules are yes
Speaker 1: designed more now to help the passing game and let
Speaker 1: that be your first priority as an offense. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: have done it a little differently, and again it did
Speaker 1: bear itself out to some degree in this last game.
Speaker 1: When they run the ball with Zeke and run it effectively,
Speaker 1: they usually win the football game. I think they're thirteen
Speaker 1: and three when he gets one hundred yards plus. But
Speaker 1: they also got some chunk plays in the passing game
Speaker 1: the other night, and that was something that's been missing.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned Amari Cooper, and that's been a big
Speaker 1: factor that. The other thing it's done with his presence
Speaker 1: is they they finally paired down this rotation at receiver
Speaker 1: a little bit. They've got their guys, you know, hearns
Speaker 1: is being effective, but in fewer snaps it's largely been Cooper,
Speaker 1: Gallop and Beasley should be instead of five six guys
Speaker 1: early in the season when they were trying to figure
Speaker 1: it out well Gallup was trying to figure it out too,
Speaker 1: and so you would have expected at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season that Gallop is going to be better the
Speaker 1: second half of the year just because him simply being
Speaker 1: a rookie. Yes, Mickey, I was going to say before
Speaker 1: I thought of this, that can we bury this notion
Speaker 1: that defense wins championships. You've been saying that for how
Speaker 1: long fifteen years? Gallop fifty seven of sixty nine snaps
Speaker 1: in the game. He had the most of any of
Speaker 1: the wide receivers. I think he's had the most cumulatively
Speaker 1: for three weeks now or so, three or four games.
Speaker 1: That's the way it should be. I mean, now that
Speaker 1: Cooper's here, that's going to probably change. But yeah, he's
Speaker 1: coming on, He's coming on. He seems more confident and
Speaker 1: Cooper for a new guy, has had one hundred and
Speaker 1: eleven of one hundred and twenty eight snaps in two games,
Speaker 1: So it should be yeah, yeah, Well they they clearly
Speaker 1: they misseevaluated the whole thing. You know, I think the
Speaker 1: misevaluation started with their they believe that they could run
Speaker 1: the ball no matter what. No, and then you know,
Speaker 1: the injury or the illness to the center robbed him
Speaker 1: of that opportunity. The regression of the right tackle robbed
Speaker 1: him of that. You know, and they played some good opponents.
Speaker 1: I think Mickey's been very adamant about that pointing out
Speaker 1: out I think that you have, you know, played against
Speaker 1: some good defenses that have limited what you can do.
Speaker 1: But you know they're trying to They're they're trying to
Speaker 1: make it right. And I think through two games, I
Speaker 1: think we would all say that the at least with
Speaker 1: the Marii Cooper, you know, in the game, it gives
Speaker 1: them a chance. I mean third downs of you know,
Speaker 1: at least now it's not just so much a okay,
Speaker 1: we'll get you, they're actually converting it. At that third
Speaker 1: and fifteen call, I was a great call. You got
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop in the game and you're throwing it to
Speaker 1: the short side of the field and it shouldn't work,
Speaker 1: but it did work. And you know, those are the
Speaker 1: types of players you need to have. Man, you can't
Speaker 1: go out there and convert a bunch of third and fifty.
Speaker 1: But at least, why this team you feel like they
Speaker 1: got a chance. Felt like early in the season, if
Speaker 1: they were they were dead. Yeah, they were dead. They
Speaker 1: were going to call a screen pad. Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: that was kind of the answer. It was like, okay,
Speaker 1: we just got a sack. It's third and eighteen. Let's
Speaker 1: throw the screen. We'll get eight yards and we'll punt. Punt.
Speaker 1: Now you had Now you have the capability of getting
Speaker 1: the ball in some playmaker's hands. You have the you know,
Speaker 1: get the ball in Gallop's hands, get the ball in
Speaker 1: a Maury Cooper's hands. You know, Alan hearns, you know,
Speaker 1: God bless him. And I said it yesterday. He could
Speaker 1: have he could have just you know, sulked and said okay,
Speaker 1: or you know, I'm not gonna play anymore. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna keep my getting my check every Tuesday and not.
Speaker 1: But you know, he he gets two or three players
Speaker 1: a game, and he makes the he makes good of him.
Speaker 1: He makes you know, he's he's a good route runner.
Speaker 1: He's not fast, you know, he's not quick, but he's reliable.
Speaker 1: And I think that's really the most important thing. This
Speaker 1: quarterback needs reliable players. And it looks like to me
Speaker 1: he's got some reliable players now. Now a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: with the way this thing has been paired down, I
Speaker 1: think I think Steven said it yesterday when he said
Speaker 1: they were really suffocating the line of scrimmage on us
Speaker 1: before Cooper got yeah yeah, and he's right, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think you saw a huge difference not only
Speaker 1: in his play, but how it's affected everything else. It's
Speaker 1: not often that so far you've watched Cooper and he
Speaker 1: doesn't win on his route. I mean, he is open
Speaker 1: a lot, and that makes a big difference because it's
Speaker 1: not only for him, it's what defenses have to do
Speaker 1: to maybe account for that, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: guys have opportunities that maybe they didn't have early in
Speaker 1: the season. Well, I think I said it yesterday. But
Speaker 1: if he's going down feeling at nine route and it's
Speaker 1: a tie, he's opened because he's gonna put it in
Speaker 1: that extra shame they missed him. Yeah, that's what happened
Speaker 1: on that one. The ball got up in the air
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he pulled away from
Speaker 1: that guy. That's that's a shame that because you know,
Speaker 1: you can't you see, there's there's so much talk about
Speaker 1: this quarterbacks in accuracy and he can't do this and
Speaker 1: can't get you know, you hit a few of those plays,
Speaker 1: people are like, going, well, now he threw a good
Speaker 1: deep ball. The other day he threw you know, that
Speaker 1: passed he through Hurns was right before the end of
Speaker 1: the half was a good pass. The pass he threw
Speaker 1: to Beasley to get eighteen yards after the screen was
Speaker 1: a good pass. Yes, guy's capable. But when he misses
Speaker 1: those open routes, and that's when you start to say,
Speaker 1: you know, and we all kind of collectively jump on
Speaker 1: him about no, he's not doing this and not doing that.
Speaker 1: If he hits just a few moan of those, I
Speaker 1: think people would kind of say, Okay, I see it now,
Speaker 1: I get what's going on here. So yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I just I'd like to see him hit a few
Speaker 1: more of those. And especially with the way that guy
Speaker 1: can get open, I mean, we see it. He just separates.
Speaker 1: He's just a different player out there. But I think
Speaker 1: he's got to get used to that because I think
Speaker 1: in the quarterback, yeah, in his mind was if I
Speaker 1: underthrow this, this is gonna be bad. Yeah, so let
Speaker 1: me get it out there. Oh, you would rather much
Speaker 1: for them overthrow a ball that they land and hope,
Speaker 1: like hell that gallop and Cooper and those guys can
Speaker 1: run those down. But man, I mean that open, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean Douglas, the Douglas, the cornerback was waving his
Speaker 1: arms like incomplete and like, bro, you were burned so bad?
Speaker 1: Why you celebrate? You ought to be like pumps up
Speaker 1: to the heavens. That was relieved. That was scared reaction
Speaker 1: is what that was. Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking back through
Speaker 1: the play by play of Sunday Nights game, and Brian,
Speaker 1: you were big hitting on the fact that they didn't
Speaker 1: take advantage of their opportunities in the first time exactly,
Speaker 1: and I agree with that. However, when you look at
Speaker 1: the second half of that game, and especially when you
Speaker 1: put it in the context of what happened the week
Speaker 1: before with this team against Tennessee, where in the third
Speaker 1: quarter Tennessee took control of that game and Dallas basically
Speaker 1: whimpered and went home, you know, And when you look
Speaker 1: at the third quarter of this game, Dallas had a
Speaker 1: three and out to start the third quarter. Eagles come down,
Speaker 1: they kick a field goal. They had a thirteen three lead. Okay,
Speaker 1: Eagles kick a field goal on their first drive. Now
Speaker 1: it's thirteen six. Then you have a miss field goal
Speaker 1: after their long Zeke runs, right, all right, so there's
Speaker 1: some more unforced adversity, right, Okay, Eagles come down, They
Speaker 1: put together a sixty eight yard drive and tie the
Speaker 1: game up at thirteen. So now with two minutes left
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, this game is getting away from you, right, okay.
Speaker 1: And what do they do at that point? They use
Speaker 1: Zeke seven of nine plays on a touchdown drive of
Speaker 1: seventy five yards and take control of the game again
Speaker 1: at twenty to thirteen. I mean, there were there was
Speaker 1: a couple of passes to Zeke, including the it started
Speaker 1: with a past to Zeke, it ended with a past
Speaker 1: to Zeke, and there were five Zeke runs in the
Speaker 1: middle of that nine play drive. And that's what they
Speaker 1: had not done in the second half of games previously
Speaker 1: that they lost. Is this where we're seeing the influence
Speaker 1: of Mark Colombo a little bit as a line coach.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe at you know, the Tennessee game, you
Speaker 1: kind of you're thinking, Okay, this is new, you know,
Speaker 1: new opportunity for him. But you know, now now the
Speaker 1: second weekend, is this where we're seeing a little bit
Speaker 1: more toughness and physical aggressiveality. Yeah, Dak Dak and Zeke
Speaker 1: after the game mentioned the offensive line coach. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever heard that before, you say, oh,
Speaker 1: the offensive line picked it up. They specifically mentioned Colombo
Speaker 1: as as there was a difference out there. So and oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, after the Cowboys take that twenty to
Speaker 1: thirteen lead, the Eagles come back down again and score
Speaker 1: in seventy four yard seven play drive. So they scored
Speaker 1: on their first three possessions of the second half. So
Speaker 1: now you're tied up again, and now you got to
Speaker 1: do it again, and they did it again to take
Speaker 1: the lead. And then you had finally had the drive
Speaker 1: where vander esh and Heath made the plays a critical
Speaker 1: on third and fourth down. Yeah, they needed a couple
Speaker 1: of plays, right, and they strick out him. They strick
Speaker 1: ot him, I think. And they that last one was
Speaker 1: throwing the football, right, that's yea touchdown drive. Right. Well,
Speaker 1: well they had you're talking Dallas's drive. Yeah, Well, they
Speaker 1: started throwing the football and then they ended it with Zeke.
Speaker 1: Of course, they got down on the goal line and
Speaker 1: then they handed it to Zeke, which isn't in contrast
Speaker 1: to what the offensive coordinator has done at times in
Speaker 1: the past when you got first in Gold at the
Speaker 1: two yard line Seattle last year, and you don't hand
Speaker 1: it to Zie in the game too, he didn't get
Speaker 1: it down there close. I'm wrong, Zeke. He didn't touch
Speaker 1: the ball around that kind of quarterback sneak when they
Speaker 1: got down at the end of the half. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: were I thinking of? I'll think about it. It might
Speaker 1: have been the touchdown last week too. I was. I
Speaker 1: was hopeful that they would just keep handing to the
Speaker 1: Zeke and if he was getting stopped at getting closer,
Speaker 1: I was okay with that because I kiss I kept
Speaker 1: seeing the clock run, you know, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: keep running, keep running, keep running, keep running. And you know,
Speaker 1: I was trying to I started to realize the condition
Speaker 1: of my defense wasn't very good. But they made They
Speaker 1: end up making to stop. But I was worried at
Speaker 1: the end of that football game. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: send h I didn't want to send those guys back
Speaker 1: out there with a lot of time, you know, to
Speaker 1: have to deal with there. I'm sorry, I was thinking
Speaker 1: of the after the Zeke hurdle play, they get down
Speaker 1: to the eight r and Zeke doesn't touch it again.
Speaker 1: They wind up kicking a field goal plus four deck
Speaker 1: plus zero sack. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Well, because they were
Speaker 1: trying to throw it, he might have you know, he
Speaker 1: might have needed a breatherer too. I'm tired of that
Speaker 1: breather stuff too. By the way, he didn't need a breather, okay,
Speaker 1: but no, right after the run, it's the play was
Speaker 1: hardly over and then you they're they're sending Smith in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is that okay? I'm just talking about the eye test, guys?
Speaker 1: Is is he in good condition? Am I asking a
Speaker 1: question that's this in week ten that I shouldn't be asking?
Speaker 1: Or is you know, does he is? He? Does he
Speaker 1: look like he's physically he didn't tap out? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: saw it on the on the I saw it when
Speaker 1: the replay and they had Smith coming in right away
Speaker 1: before they even got close to the huddle. Yeah. A
Speaker 1: lot of fans were asking about that on Twitter during
Speaker 1: the game. Burst there was a burst. I mean, he
Speaker 1: did hurdle that guy. That was pretty impressive. The thirty
Speaker 1: that wasn't even as long as run. He had the
Speaker 1: thirty five yard run, which I thought he was gonna
Speaker 1: take it to the house and he didn't quite do it.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell that they had the end zone camera.
Speaker 1: Oh you were still upset? What do you think of that?
Speaker 1: I was screaming in the get Taylor's like, Brian, shut up.
Speaker 1: I was screaming it. And then they were trying to
Speaker 1: tell me it's the video game look, And I don't
Speaker 1: like the I mean, I don't mind watching games and stuff,
Speaker 1: end zone stuff, but I didn't like Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you lose perspective on where he is on the field
Speaker 1: running and and of course I tweaked something out about
Speaker 1: it a couple of times, and and and you got killed.
Speaker 1: I bet no, no, no, people agreed, no, no, I
Speaker 1: it was at nine to one agreeing with me. And
Speaker 1: then the one guy is, ah, noah, you can watch
Speaker 1: it much better that way. Well, yeah, I got no
Speaker 1: problem on coaches film. Yeah, I'd love watching the end
Speaker 1: zone angle on a replay, Yeah, but not live action.
Speaker 1: And it's a it's a promotional gimmick that NBC's doing
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football. And it's ridiculous With Zeke. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's hard to argue with the way he played in
Speaker 1: the game. I mean he was he was fantastic. Um
Speaker 1: that's maybe his best game of the season other than
Speaker 1: a Detroit game. He did have that stuff the knee
Speaker 1: and the ankle mid season. He's not on the injury
Speaker 1: report any anymore. He lines up in play. Yeah, question,
Speaker 1: I mean, you think something might be still bothering him
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know, and I'd like to
Speaker 1: find out, because there's there's a couple of runs there
Speaker 1: that I thought, he man, that Zeke's gonna finish this thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean thinking, man, he turns the corner and he
Speaker 1: goes and generally nobody catches him, you know. And we
Speaker 1: saw it on the screen the other day that he
Speaker 1: had a good run, you know, he finished a run there,
Speaker 1: and I just kind of was, I was thinking, what
Speaker 1: he gets in the open field. I've always believed that
Speaker 1: he has a chance to finish the run, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I and and then there was a
Speaker 1: couple of times there where I'm like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: and hey, he lost his balance when he jumped over
Speaker 1: the guy. That was unfortunate, you know, because I thought
Speaker 1: he was going to finish that run. But one on
Speaker 1: the sideline he ran out of space, right he was
Speaker 1: trying to turn the corner and he and he got
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, he started veering out
Speaker 1: of balance and that's what they caused a fumble. Matter
Speaker 1: of fact, jake out of his hand. Yeah, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: they gave him a fumble on that play. But he
Speaker 1: you know, I just I don't know. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure I'm trying to figure out because I just every
Speaker 1: time I've ever seen him get in space, I've seen
Speaker 1: him just run away from people, and I wonder if,
Speaker 1: like you said, Rob, is it is it? Is it physical?
Speaker 1: Or is there something else going on here? You know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm making too much else. Yeah, he absolutely did, Mickey,
Speaker 1: but he probably could have had two hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 1: The bar is pretty high for him, you know, It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: could he could he have done a little bit more? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he had another thirty six in the passing game,
Speaker 1: so he wound up with one hundred and eighty seven. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it reminded me of Halloween twenty five years ago
Speaker 1: and Emmett Smith when he ran for two hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty seven yards against the Eagles and he did not
Speaker 1: have any catches that I looked it up, and so
Speaker 1: he was on a pace to do that had they
Speaker 1: given him the football in the last drive of the game,
Speaker 1: by the way, I mean the last possession. Yeah, with
Speaker 1: getting the ball back with a minute nine left, they
Speaker 1: got it fast. Yeah. I didn't get face masked, but
Speaker 1: I do not there with that flight call, No, there was.
Speaker 1: It was running outside what you're what you're risking. There
Speaker 1: is a holding call that's gonna set you back ten
Speaker 1: yards and you have no chance to get in the
Speaker 1: first That's exactly right. Yeah, and then it was passed
Speaker 1: to Beasley and then you know, Dak whatever. You know.
Speaker 1: But if you just run Zeke between the tackles, try
Speaker 1: to get the first down and in the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you're running sideways, we said that on the sideline,
Speaker 1: like they've got their time outs, but can they stop
Speaker 1: them stop Zeke from getting a first down? And basically
Speaker 1: you get a first down, then you're the game's over. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The officials clearly helped. If you go back and watch
Speaker 1: the play, Zeke gets face mask John Perry and his
Speaker 1: crew just don't call it right, you know, that's okay.
Speaker 1: Now that's a fifteen yard penalty forward and then that's
Speaker 1: a Now they're having to deal with a new set
Speaker 1: of downs. A fresh set and they're not gonna be
Speaker 1: They're not gonna go get the ball back right. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's the way it is. I mean, these games,
Speaker 1: you know, but how many penalties did the Eagles get
Speaker 1: called for? Well, Mickey, we know the question. I mean,
Speaker 1: just thought i'd bring that up. Now we know the
Speaker 1: answer to that. I guess we're taking breaks here on
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Speaker 1: turn me off. Despite that, still try out Scowboys cheerleader.
Speaker 1: How long you been doing that judging? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's been long enough. It's been long enough to remember.
Speaker 1: How not how long? What year? No? I have no
Speaker 1: idea nineteen ninety three, what year? Just go ahead and
Speaker 1: say it. It might have been ten years, Just just
Speaker 1: ten years. Yeah, since I when I started going on
Speaker 1: the trips to do the show. How are those trips
Speaker 1: long and tiring? Do you know what time when they
Speaker 1: start in the morning? No, I don't. I've never been
Speaker 1: on five o'clock. I've done three of them, and it's
Speaker 1: not the worst thing in the world. He's on ourselves.
Speaker 1: That's fine. You're in paradise for a week. It's okay.
Speaker 1: I just said it was long and tiring. I didn't
Speaker 1: say those Oh, okay, it's wonderful, Bill. So what work
Speaker 1: are you doing there? You're watching the photos sheets, You're
Speaker 1: watching cheerleaders photos shot, you goin doing interviews, you have
Speaker 1: to gotten to So how would you do a show
Speaker 1: without interviews? Well, is that nautique swimsuit one of your favorites?
Speaker 1: And that's and that's seeing that's the hard part, asked Rob.
Speaker 1: Because you can do it that way and it's the
Speaker 1: most boring thing in the world. But if you're on
Speaker 1: top of your game, you find something out interesting about
Speaker 1: the ladies that is more than just putting a bathing
Speaker 1: suit on. Micky, you remember I asked the cheerleader, those
Speaker 1: those two girls, I asked if they've ever cheered Mad
Speaker 1: cheered Mad? Yeah? Did you ask ycause he covers the
Speaker 1: team Mad. Yeah. Yeah. Mickey and I. Mickey and I
Speaker 1: had were doing interviews with the cheerleader. We were doing
Speaker 1: media training India Chin. A matter of fact, it was
Speaker 1: like six hours of work. Mickey and I were doing it.
Speaker 1: We I think we were on for thirty seconds that
Speaker 1: CMTE thing. So we didn't do it for the face.
Speaker 1: I got a boot. I gotta signed cheerleader boot out
Speaker 1: of the deal. It's one of the most interesting thing.
Speaker 1: We've got two of them right now. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: got a pair, and so where do you have this
Speaker 1: your office? Your boots closet? I haven't figured out a
Speaker 1: spot to put. Yeah, put in the office anyway. No,
Speaker 1: I asked the cheerleader, I do you ever cheer Mad?
Speaker 1: You know, like you know, you you ever get like
Speaker 1: fired up to where you're know, And she's like the
Speaker 1: one girl, No, you know, you gotta smile and you
Speaker 1: gotta be And I'm like, but you never, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's the Eagles. You never you know, you're
Speaker 1: never cheering like you know, And she's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: not really, you know it's a yeah, big wrong person.
Speaker 1: You remember who cheered Mad? Who cheered Mad? Sonny? That's
Speaker 1: some sense. She was the biggest cowboy fans ever growing
Speaker 1: up that she would like she would tell us, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta have that forced smile. Yeah. Well all right,
Speaker 1: and and and know this too. She's still she's got
Speaker 1: three kids now, two kids. They still have the cuss
Speaker 1: cup when they watch the game, Like when you cuss
Speaker 1: that's good money, fuck it? Yeah, the kids do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was training them. Well, Bill, all right, let's go
Speaker 1: to Dave in California. You're up on talking cowboys. Hello day,
Speaker 1: good morning. How are you guys doing the fun game
Speaker 1: one that I've been watching tape on Atlanta and I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have done that yet, but gosh,
Speaker 1: we don't match up well. They're so strong on both
Speaker 1: sides of the line, and they're still players are good,
Speaker 1: but they just don't tackle well and the receivers are
Speaker 1: dropping balls and it keeps the other teams in the game.
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear your thoughts on that. I just
Speaker 1: don't think we can go down there and overcome turnover
Speaker 1: or a bad special teams play. We don't have the talent.
Speaker 1: We don't match up well enough to overcome that down there.
Speaker 1: I also watched Washington since their offensive line got beat up,
Speaker 1: and they're not the same team. They're struggling. The quarterback
Speaker 1: isn't comfortable back there, and I don't think that's the
Speaker 1: team we're in a race with. I think we're going
Speaker 1: to be in a race with Philly doin this division.
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear your thoughts on that. And you
Speaker 1: guys are talking about Sunday Morning reporting and how much
Speaker 1: pressure they're under to get in a story. Gosh, don't
Speaker 1: justify that. We don't need lazy reporting the way this
Speaker 1: nation's going right now. Let's hold them accountable too. All right, guys,
Speaker 1: Thanks all right, thank you, Dave. Last part was the
Speaker 1: best thing, he said. Atlanta. Of course, Atlanta had injury
Speaker 1: issues on defense the early part of the season. They
Speaker 1: have gotten the linebacker back, haven't they. I haven't watched
Speaker 1: their defense. I've watched their offense. I've started on their offense,
Speaker 1: and I've asked Jones. Yeah, he's really a good player,
Speaker 1: and I have a better feel for what they're doing offensively.
Speaker 1: He's right about them dropping some footballs. They're going to
Speaker 1: get a lot of guys involved though. You know, when
Speaker 1: you talk about Jones and snow Ridley, of course, I
Speaker 1: mean they threw a ball at his kid, Hall number
Speaker 1: seventeen and Marvin Hall, Yeah, and he dropped it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they've got Offen. Yeah, Hooper is a big player for them,
Speaker 1: play play twelve personnel stuff, Matt Ryan throwing the ball
Speaker 1: a lot on the move, you know, I mean by design,
Speaker 1: not him having to move around a bunch. But they
Speaker 1: they are a big play action team. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to be ready for a lot of fakes. That way,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be ready for guys that you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of boots waggles, nakeds things like that. That's
Speaker 1: kind of what their offense is. Tevin Coleman is a
Speaker 1: kind of an all around back. His ability to catch
Speaker 1: to run I think is really good. And then they're
Speaker 1: using Edo Smith as well, and Edo Smith is a
Speaker 1: guy they'll throw the football too. So just my first
Speaker 1: little indication watching the Washington game. I just started at
Speaker 1: matter of fact that I just got done with the
Speaker 1: Cleveland game, so we'll see some more. But it looks
Speaker 1: like things are pretty much intact for them offensively when
Speaker 1: it comes to the line and stuff like that. I do.
Speaker 1: I do think you're gonna have to deal with a
Speaker 1: lot of receivers and you know, I can say if
Speaker 1: they continue to drop the football and then that will
Speaker 1: help you in that regard. He's right about Washington. I
Speaker 1: know that that's the next game after Atlanta. But their
Speaker 1: injuries up front have affected them, and they you know,
Speaker 1: they had something to do with it, but they were
Speaker 1: fortunate the Tampa Bay gave the ball away as much
Speaker 1: as they did in that game. With five hundred plus
Speaker 1: yards of total offense whatever the Bucks had in that game,
Speaker 1: how do you have five hundred yards with three points?
Speaker 1: Three points? Yeah, crazy has that ever happened. I wonder,
Speaker 1: or at least not a long time now, what happened
Speaker 1: to Atlanta in Cleveland. Baker Mayfield happened. Yeah, he felt dangerous.
Speaker 1: He woke up that morning just feeling dangerous. So their
Speaker 1: defense didn't play very well the Atlantis. I didn't see that.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched Atlanta's defense yet, so I can't tell you.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the game. I know they're offense though
Speaker 1: that Cleveland did a pretty good job of them hanging
Speaker 1: in there with them, you know, didn't allow him to.
Speaker 1: But the caller's right, I mean the drops or something.
Speaker 1: You would not think that, you know, Atlanta, the way
Speaker 1: they are with the receivers, that they would drop the
Speaker 1: ball as much as they have. But they it's clear.
Speaker 1: I mean, they have guys that are open, I mean
Speaker 1: wide open. They're dropping the football. So that's that's if.
Speaker 1: Hopefully that trend will carry on for them in this week.
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb for Cleveland ran for one hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: six yards on twenty carries in a touchdown. He also
Speaker 1: had three catches thirty three yards in a touchdown. Mayfield
Speaker 1: was seventeen out of twenty for two hundred and sixteen
Speaker 1: yards ten yards for attempts. I know coming into this
Speaker 1: game that they've had six straight games where they've given
Speaker 1: up three touchdown passes in the game. I think that's
Speaker 1: I think that's Atlanta. Yea Atlanta has I think they're
Speaker 1: on a bad run that way, but they they've clearly struck.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing, you know what happened, you
Speaker 1: know what's happening with them as far as their defensive
Speaker 1: front and all at Vic Beasley and and those guys
Speaker 1: you Grady Jared. I mean, those are a couple of
Speaker 1: pretty good players. I wonder if they really if their
Speaker 1: play has fallen off that that much. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: And well, as long as Adrian Clayborne's not there, he's
Speaker 1: not there on the pats yep, New England Patriot. Now.
Speaker 1: You know, um, when you look at to where the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were last year going to Atlanta, and that was
Speaker 1: part of the series of three straight games where the
Speaker 1: season got away from the Cowboys. Last year, there was
Speaker 1: a horrible stretch of three games. Of course, as he
Speaker 1: just started his suspension, Cowboys were five and three going
Speaker 1: into that heck of a game. They beat Kansas City
Speaker 1: pretty exactly game going that way and had a couple
Speaker 1: of you know, they had San Francisco and Washington prior
Speaker 1: to the Kansas City, but Kansas City, which was big win. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: quality win, right, and then Zeke gets suspended and Tyran
Speaker 1: Smith goes down ye, and Sean Lee goes down. So
Speaker 1: now you're at a point that going in this year
Speaker 1: to Atlanta virtually the same part of the season, you're
Speaker 1: going in at four and five, and you have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to do the opposite of what happened last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're coming off a big win against Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: just like you're coming off a big win against Kansas
Speaker 1: City last year, and now let's see what they can do. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I'm interested because you know, if if Cleveland was able
Speaker 1: to run the ball as successfully as they were, I
Speaker 1: think as a Cowboy fan and again I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to seeing that game. I think you have to be
Speaker 1: excited about that. But if they're giving up stuff in
Speaker 1: the past, and you know, and and and you know,
Speaker 1: and market's Truefon and Robert Alfred Alfred and those guys
Speaker 1: aren't covering very well, I'll take my chances with with
Speaker 1: uh Maury Cooper and you know, those guys throwing the
Speaker 1: ball and and and see and see how it plays out.
Speaker 1: You know, if you could get some good balance. Evidently,
Speaker 1: you know, Cleveland beat him with some pretty good balance,
Speaker 1: I know offensively, you know, with that with the run
Speaker 1: pass ratio and the stuff that they I mean, seventeen
Speaker 1: of twenty, that's what she said. Baker Mayfield. Ye, for
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixteen yards. It's ten yards in a
Speaker 1: ten Yeah, nothing wrong with that. So we'll see and
Speaker 1: they you know, Atlanta is uh, but they're a team
Speaker 1: like you. They're very desperate. You know, they're four and
Speaker 1: five two and they're trying to figure out you know,
Speaker 1: I mean if they how what direction? I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's I mean, I don't know if they can
Speaker 1: catch Carolina, whether they two games behind them, two games
Speaker 1: behind Carolina right now. So and I think they've played
Speaker 1: them already one time. You might write about that. I
Speaker 1: believe you're right. Yeah, so you know that that's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, let's see if they can make that ground up.
Speaker 1: But they're very similar the Cowboys as far as they've
Speaker 1: had some struggles, that looks like their struggles appeared to
Speaker 1: be more on defense than the Cowboys struggles have been
Speaker 1: on offense. So we'll see. I'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: how they play the defense, because I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were expecting Philadelphia and they did it I thought quite
Speaker 1: a bit single safety high type stuff. And then towards
Speaker 1: as it moved along, they started putting that other safety
Speaker 1: back there. Well, they got banged up. They couldn't they
Speaker 1: didn't have enough game because they had all their corners,
Speaker 1: got conservative and say, okay, they had to play zone.
Speaker 1: Guy's help. They had to play zone. But they were
Speaker 1: playing a lot of single safety high and when you're
Speaker 1: lining up and you know, you can see it faster
Speaker 1: when you're there than on television. It's like old Cooper's
Speaker 1: and single coverage. Here, let's go. You know, you can
Speaker 1: almost call it. Yeah, I'll be interested to see what
Speaker 1: Atlanta does. Ye what do you think do we take
Speaker 1: a break or how we long are we going to
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Speaker 1: Mind like a steel trap over there that's right. I
Speaker 1: wondered the same thing. I know he's trying to personalize it,
Speaker 1: but I didn't understand why, am Mari Cooper Okay, very good.
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Speaker 1: my little brand. Big Twelve Championship returns to a stadium
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Speaker 1: teams in the Big Twelve Conference face off of the
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Speaker 1: a real good shot being in that game. Who's Oklahoma got?
Speaker 1: They got Kansas? And then what they play at West Virginia.
Speaker 1: That is a likely loss for the Sooner. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that means that Texas Texas wins out. The Texas would
Speaker 1: be playing West Virginia in the championship game. They have
Speaker 1: a buy going into that game. Who does Oklahoma? No,
Speaker 1: they don't. They played West Virginia. They played West I said,
Speaker 1: into the West Virginia game, I got since they play Kansas,
Speaker 1: that's a that's bizoo talk there, y stay with me,
Speaker 1: Come on, what the Texas has an issue. Texas has
Speaker 1: an issue this week because I always State comes to Austin,
Speaker 1: and I always State's got a good football team. They
Speaker 1: can and getting better. Yes, they are as a seasons.
Speaker 1: The college coach that might be a pro coach with
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell and I Alwa State by the way, has
Speaker 1: an upraortunity they could actually put some where. Did he
Speaker 1: come from Toledo, Yeah, Bowlie Green, Toledo. Everywhere he's been,
Speaker 1: he's won. He could pay his dues. I'll try all right.
Speaker 1: Cowboys Falcons last year. I was just looking at the
Speaker 1: stats from last year's game and basically who was playing
Speaker 1: in the game for the Cowboys. Of course, Zeke was out,
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris was your primary running running back. Darren McFadden
Speaker 1: got to carry in the game, and Rod Smith got
Speaker 1: three carries in the game. Morris was eleven for fifty
Speaker 1: three yards. Your receivers, you had Witten seven for fifty nine,
Speaker 1: Dez four for thirty nine, Rod Smith, colby's Ley, Bryce
Speaker 1: Butler one for thirty and Terrence Williams one for nine,
Speaker 1: so there were a lot of Keith Smith also had
Speaker 1: a catch, so there were a lot of your weapons
Speaker 1: that are no longer on the team or on injured
Speaker 1: reserve right now. Catches by Noah Brown, nothing by Noah Brown.
Speaker 1: No penalties for Noah Brown either, And um so anyway,
Speaker 1: it's a different Cowboy team going in there this year
Speaker 1: than what it was last year. Yeah, I think you
Speaker 1: have to, you know, after what you guys said. And
Speaker 1: I'm looking and looking forward to watching the Cleveland game.
Speaker 1: The best way to help Dak Prescott is just to
Speaker 1: run the football. If if they're if they're if they
Speaker 1: have an inability, if all of a sudden you see
Speaker 1: a trend to them not being able to stop the run.
Speaker 1: You know, if Cleveland just loaded up and said you're
Speaker 1: not good enough to stop us and other teams, I
Speaker 1: need to go back and watch, like Pittsburgh. I think
Speaker 1: they played Pittsburgh in the Carolina I said, you said they.
Speaker 1: I guess when the break you were saying that the
Speaker 1: only one of the first wins they had was Carolina.
Speaker 1: Let me just see these teams that ran the ball
Speaker 1: or can run the ball, and were they able to
Speaker 1: run the ball, Because if that's the case, you know,
Speaker 1: that's a huge huge advantage for the Cowboys right there. Now,
Speaker 1: I know they fell behind going into the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: last year, did they run the ball? Alfred Morris, I
Speaker 1: have no idea, don't you have it? He ran? He ran? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it started off. I think it started off
Speaker 1: pretty well for him, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they had to start throwing the ball. I want to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to see that game was such a infamous game.
Speaker 1: I want to say it was like ten seven and
Speaker 1: a half time. It was. They were hanging in there
Speaker 1: and defensively in that three game stretch that they lost
Speaker 1: badly starting with that game. It was the second half
Speaker 1: they just broke down and couldn't couldn't get off the field.
Speaker 1: No Sean Lee, I think he went out in the
Speaker 1: first quarter of the Atlanta game once again. Layton Vanderesh
Speaker 1: and Jalen Smith's a different player than he was last
Speaker 1: year by far, and Layton Vanderesh is a big time
Speaker 1: young player on this team. He is, He's playing not
Speaker 1: like a rookie. The way he played. It's not not perfect,
Speaker 1: but they don't miss Sewan as much as they did
Speaker 1: last season. So I think going into this matchup, because
Speaker 1: this is they're gonna be challenging the secondary. This is
Speaker 1: a really good core, not just Julio Jones, but I
Speaker 1: think they definitely feel better about their linebacking corps now
Speaker 1: than they did this time. If you if, if you
Speaker 1: would you they won't do it, But would you, guys
Speaker 1: travel Byron Jones with Julio Jones in this game? Now
Speaker 1: we've seen the last I mean, I mean, Hulio Jones
Speaker 1: had a really had a great game here at at
Speaker 1: and T one time where I mean he just and
Speaker 1: but that was Brandon Weeden playing quarterback. Dallas got a
Speaker 1: big lead and then kind of evaporated. What they do
Speaker 1: last year with Julio I can't remember. I don't think
Speaker 1: they traveled with him. They don't really do that. They
Speaker 1: don't travel. But I mean, this might be one of
Speaker 1: those games where you say, okay, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna try and take him out of the game.
Speaker 1: If I can with Byron Jones, that would be your
Speaker 1: best option, wouldn't it? But you know who really heard
Speaker 1: him last year was that Hooper guy end We had
Speaker 1: never heard of Hooper and all of a sudden he's
Speaker 1: and they have to and Steve Sarkissian has to be
Speaker 1: excited after seeing zach Ertz get fourteen catches. The other
Speaker 1: day Huli had six for fifty seven. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: was trying to see they only had one sack of
Speaker 1: Ryan and he threw the ball thirty times times, although
Speaker 1: I was trying to see what his deal was, and
Speaker 1: they got him miss printing here they got Rothlessburger. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by the way, kind of trails off. I wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to throw anybody under the bus and talking to Nick
Speaker 1: Chubb had the big game last week, but the week
Speaker 1: before Adrian Peterson only had seventeen yards on nine carries
Speaker 1: against them. See, so yeah, there you go the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm saying. I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: seeing if did they just overpowerment and it might be
Speaker 1: to the point of what you guys were talking about
Speaker 1: that Washington's offensive line is not clearly running game. Moses
Speaker 1: is not getting done anymore, you know, so we'll see. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just I think that I think your plan. I
Speaker 1: think that you know, you find find the trend here
Speaker 1: is are they having certain problems, you know, with certain fronts.
Speaker 1: I mean they haven't with certain schemes. I mean, is
Speaker 1: it rush inside, rush people trapping them, people toss sweeping them.
Speaker 1: What are you doing to these guys? So I think
Speaker 1: that's where you got to kind of find. Yeah, give
Speaker 1: me those two three four players that you can run,
Speaker 1: that are running places that you can kind of hang
Speaker 1: your hat on. What you know was you know Cleveland,
Speaker 1: what was their plan of attack? I'm interested to see that,
Speaker 1: I really really am. Now. The other thing, you look
Speaker 1: at Atlanta and it's like this where virtually every team
Speaker 1: in the league, you've got several close losses. They lost
Speaker 1: in overtime to the Saints forty three thirty seven, and
Speaker 1: she ever got the ball back in that one. They
Speaker 1: lost to Cincinnati thirty seven thirty six. Joe Mixon, by
Speaker 1: the way, did not play for Cincinnati in that game.
Speaker 1: And so you change those two games and they're looking
Speaker 1: at a six and three team instead of a four
Speaker 1: and five. Yeah, I don't lose to Houston Washington. You're
Speaker 1: looking at exactly here, exactly. I mean, you can do
Speaker 1: that with about every team. Yeah, in the league. You
Speaker 1: know one thing we haven't had an opportunity to talk about.
Speaker 1: I'm talking Cowboys. That happened after our show on Friday.
Speaker 1: Devi's Bryant goes down for the season, lost for the
Speaker 1: season with the torn achilles. You hate to see that
Speaker 1: for Dez, yeah, you know, And and we were we
Speaker 1: kind of talked about that it would be a great
Speaker 1: fit for him to go to New Orleans, that they
Speaker 1: could use him like they did Marcus Colston. And I
Speaker 1: think clearly that was going to be the plan. They
Speaker 1: were gonna, you know, have a few things for him
Speaker 1: to do. Work the middle of the field, big body guy,
Speaker 1: you know, makes some good plays and then in the
Speaker 1: middle of the field, that's what he's very comfortable doing.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, these these injuries and stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's you know that that type of injury. I was
Speaker 1: worried about him in the hamstring because that had got
Speaker 1: him before, you know, I was worried. And then Nelson,
Speaker 1: you get the news of achilles, You're going, okay, well
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty much, you know, get over right there.
Speaker 1: That is a great example of why you have training
Speaker 1: camp and why you have when when a guy comes
Speaker 1: we don't know and Saints didn't know how much work
Speaker 1: DEAs had actually done. Okay, des may think he's done
Speaker 1: enough work to be ready to go right into a practice,
Speaker 1: and I don't know exactly how it happened in practice,
Speaker 1: but I assume they put him right into full speed
Speaker 1: drills and I suppose the last play of practice practice.
Speaker 1: But regardless, that is what you know. The Cowboys get
Speaker 1: a new player and they will and other teams will
Speaker 1: do the same thing. You don't throw him right in
Speaker 1: and you have to there's value Eachmari Cooper. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: with a team. I'm talking about when when a player
Speaker 1: has not been in training camp, has not been in
Speaker 1: the offseason program, has not been with a team throughout
Speaker 1: the season, he's starting over. And basically the Saints needed
Speaker 1: to go into that with the idea that he needs
Speaker 1: three weeks of training camp before he can play in
Speaker 1: a game. You know, well he was he was probably
Speaker 1: not going to play since Cincinnati, but then you got
Speaker 1: the Eagles coming up, you know, the next week. The
Speaker 1: other thing is is not has not been known and
Speaker 1: my people tell me that he's not been known as
Speaker 1: a weight room guy. Sure, and um yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: first thing I thought of, was the time he'd missed.
Speaker 1: And then you have that kind of injury. It can
Speaker 1: happen to anybody. I mean, it's um, it can happen
Speaker 1: at any time, especially if as you get older. I
Speaker 1: just hope he's able to resume his career somewhere. Um,
Speaker 1: he's he'll be thirty one next year, I think. And
Speaker 1: that's a tough injury. I mean, that's probably a year
Speaker 1: long recovery process and then you're you're kind of starting
Speaker 1: from scratch again. So I hope, I hope he doesn't
Speaker 1: go out like this and he's able to make a
Speaker 1: full recovery and resume his career. Injury on Friday or Thursday.
Speaker 1: It was Friday, Friday, so that's not even a hard practice. Well,
Speaker 1: we don't know how. I'm sure he's not wearing him
Speaker 1: out on Friday. Well, and he may have been doing stuff.
Speaker 1: It might have just been an actigue like legs get fatigued,
Speaker 1: your foot gets fatigued, and right, yeah, that's a tough
Speaker 1: one to come back at that age. Yea. Um So anyway,
Speaker 1: and by the way, and Sean Payton says he's he
Speaker 1: wants to give him an opportunity with the Saints next year.
Speaker 1: He said that, yeah, yeah, yeah, so but you hate
Speaker 1: to see that for Dez. Now, I guess one good
Speaker 1: thing is he does he does It was a not
Speaker 1: a lot of money his base with six hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: But if he does have that coming, it looked like
Speaker 1: it was worked out perfect for him, you know, and
Speaker 1: he was going to be back on the market in
Speaker 1: March and be able to get big money. And now
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be able to get that. Stuff going
Speaker 1: to be an incentive latent deal if he if he
Speaker 1: decides to even continue playing, we don't know where. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I this this is just gonna be my gut right now,
Speaker 1: since we get paid to do this. I think that
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant is done. I think he's done. I think
Speaker 1: that Dez Bryant just you you know you it's a
Speaker 1: very difficult injury. Like you guys were talking about. He's
Speaker 1: an older guy. He makes a living with his feet,
Speaker 1: his legs and stuff like that. I mean a younger guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you rehab, you try and get back you want. But
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant's had a remarkable career and and he's also got,
Speaker 1: you know, from hearing from people, he's got other interests
Speaker 1: outside of football. Now, you know, he's seeing things, some
Speaker 1: business opportunities. I'm not just talking about opening a bar
Speaker 1: getting taken all your money getting taken in a restaurant
Speaker 1: business or some garbage like that. I'm talking about real
Speaker 1: legitimate businesses and stuff like that that he's got ideas for.
Speaker 1: So I think that we've seen the last of Dez Bryant.
Speaker 1: I really really do. I just think it's going to
Speaker 1: be very difficult for him to come back to fully
Speaker 1: commit himself to a rehabbing. Think about think about the
Speaker 1: rehabbing he had to do here. You know. I always
Speaker 1: heard whispers about Dez as well, if he would just
Speaker 1: do this, if he would just do this, if he
Speaker 1: just you know, Dez is one of those guys just
Speaker 1: let me go play, let me just show up and play,
Speaker 1: you know, And so this is one of it be
Speaker 1: one of those things where once it's repaired and all that,
Speaker 1: and he him having a I just don't just don't
Speaker 1: see him being as diligent doing what he needs to
Speaker 1: do to come back. It just comes down I hope
Speaker 1: he proves me wrong, but that's just me me too.
Speaker 1: It just comes down to his own motivation. Does he
Speaker 1: really want to go out like this, you know, and
Speaker 1: maybe that spurs him on to make a comeback. The
Speaker 1: thing that he could take away from this is, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, the best team in the league gave him
Speaker 1: a job. That's where he can he It's not like
Speaker 1: it's not like the Raiders offered him a job. You know,
Speaker 1: he got a job. I mean, the best team in
Speaker 1: the National Football League, in my opinion, gave him an
Speaker 1: opportunity to come to work, and he could take that
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, that's good in my mind,
Speaker 1: you know what, somebody wanted me. But also there's a
Speaker 1: side of him that I believe that he loves his
Speaker 1: Dallas cowboy team so much that the fact that he,
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't really get a shot with the Saints,
Speaker 1: probably he's in his heart's probably saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm still I'll always be a cowboy. I didn't have
Speaker 1: to put on a Saint. You know, it sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: but it's it would have been weird to see him
Speaker 1: in Yeah, it's what I'm saying. I mean, he's got
Speaker 1: a lot of things that you know, he waited. The
Speaker 1: right opportunity came, and you know, maybe this is the
Speaker 1: way of saying, you know what, maybe I need to
Speaker 1: move on and do something else. I wonder if you're him,
Speaker 1: would you do the surgery there or would you come
Speaker 1: back and have a doctor that you were familiar with
Speaker 1: do the surgery. Oh, because you don't have to have
Speaker 1: their guy do it right now, I could come back
Speaker 1: and have doctor Cooper do it. Actually, and he knows Cooper,
Speaker 1: and he knows that he's had successful Achilles repairs. Go
Speaker 1: ask Greg Greg Allis, Go ask Tyrone Crawford, Go ask
Speaker 1: Very Church. Yeah, so I wonder what, I wonder what
Speaker 1: he does. I just I just this the sign of
Speaker 1: me that believes that that he's at peace with himself. Now. Well,
Speaker 1: and you brought up to I mean Greg was thirty
Speaker 1: ish when he had that, and he made it. He
Speaker 1: came back, I think made a Pro Bowl. But wide
Speaker 1: receiver different, it's a different position. Stuff. It's gonna be tough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know pass rusher has to push off and
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, what's what's that happens to you?
Speaker 1: One time? You know you have and you in your
Speaker 1: mind you're always going to have that. Well, has Tyrone
Speaker 1: Crawford remember when he went down in training Campbell tore
Speaker 1: it again? Yeah, that's not good and it wasn't yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and Kevin Smith when he tore his he
Speaker 1: was not the same. The cerback and Achilles and back
Speaker 1: pedaling is pretty important. Yeah, yeah, I think that running
Speaker 1: back's gonna show up in Pittsburgh. No, I don't sound
Speaker 1: like it, and you know, and everybody could say, did
Speaker 1: you have a good day? And I don't know if
Speaker 1: he necessarily has a good day. I don't know if
Speaker 1: leaving fourteen million dollars on the table, I think is
Speaker 1: I understand principal and fighting for your beliefs and all that,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna have to make forty two million dollars
Speaker 1: basically next year to make up for the money he
Speaker 1: lost this year. And that's and that's and that's tough. Hey,
Speaker 1: even even a guy out in the Great Pacific Northwest
Speaker 1: came back, you know, he said, okay, you guys are
Speaker 1: you guys are making me mad here? But what did
Speaker 1: he do? He showed up and put my accountants more
Speaker 1: yes at me. Yeah. But the older you get, and
Speaker 1: especially a position he plays where everyone'll say, well he's
Speaker 1: a year fresher, he's gonna be but yeah, he's also
Speaker 1: a year or older and they can they can keep
Speaker 1: his rights next year twenty five million dollars. So he's
Speaker 1: going to get the quarterback tag if that's And I
Speaker 1: think that's right. I think that's automatically the tag that
Speaker 1: he gets if they do it three times in a row.
Speaker 1: If I'm not transition tag, what can what happens there
Speaker 1: with the transition If they'd use the transition tag, then
Speaker 1: he can go out to another team offer. And I
Speaker 1: think I'm right about that, because there was there was
Speaker 1: some talk that they were thinking that it was just
Speaker 1: going to be the trans transition tag. But I think
Speaker 1: if they tran if they franchise him a third time,
Speaker 1: that it's automatically. But does the second franchise count since
Speaker 1: he didn't sign it? Oh? No, it it does? It does?
Speaker 1: It does? It doesn't count as a crude he doesn't
Speaker 1: count as in a crude season. I'm I'm almost positive
Speaker 1: about that, all right, I'm almost positive. I should I
Speaker 1: shouldn't be talking. I mean, that's why I asked, because
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I might be wrong about that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that somebody's listening to our great program and
Speaker 1: if saying right now on Twitter that broad a shirt idiot,
Speaker 1: Noah doesn't count and all that, but I thought that
Speaker 1: I thought that that they were they were thinking that
Speaker 1: it was going to be a twenty five million dollar tag.
Speaker 1: It's what they were going to do. Well. They found
Speaker 1: a guy that runs it pretty well up there too
Speaker 1: to replace him. James Conner doing a good job. He's
Speaker 1: in concussion protocol right now. Uh. The other little item
Speaker 1: a couple the Eagles Ronald Darby is done for the
Speaker 1: year a cl and the Rams lose wide receiver Cooper
Speaker 1: cup Cup to a torn a c that's big for
Speaker 1: that's big for the Rams. That that kid right there
Speaker 1: is a hell of a football player for you listen
Speaker 1: to the Draft show. You knew a little bit about
Speaker 1: that guy that played on that red turf. You know,
Speaker 1: favorite of the Draft show? He was, he was a
Speaker 1: favorite of the Draft show. And you know that. So
Speaker 1: what does that do to this Switzer? Brian? What's that
Speaker 1: you got picked away before Switzer? Right? Third round? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I believe und fourth Yeah, I believe so yeah. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the Cooper Cup is a tremendous player. What does that
Speaker 1: do the Rams? Boy? I tell you what though, that's
Speaker 1: trying to think of who all they've got was at
Speaker 1: the Sammy Watkins kind of a no, no, it's a
Speaker 1: Josh Reynold. Josh Reynolds. And then on my guy from
Speaker 1: New England, the Saints, New England. Uh, the wide receiver
Speaker 1: that gets traded Cooks, Brandon Cooks. Yeah, so yeah out there,
Speaker 1: so we'll see. We got Todd Gurley. Yeah, still got
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. Absolutely. When did Reynolds get picked? It was
Speaker 1: like third, fourth, third or fourth round something like that.
Speaker 1: Rams didn't have a lot of picks. I didn't understand
Speaker 1: why he lasted so long. Yeah. He was awfully good,
Speaker 1: wasn't he. Yeah, yeah, no, that's why because he went
Speaker 1: to well, people talked about Christian Kirk there a bunch
Speaker 1: that was kind of he was fourth round. Josh Reynolds was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was kind of Christian Kirk. Was that was that?
Speaker 1: You know? And yeah he was the guy that was
Speaker 1: really good there. Yeah, yeah Christian. But but Reynolds had
Speaker 1: a pretty good career with with um. What did I
Speaker 1: remember remember writing a story about him from the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl like yards per catch or something. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: he said an A and M record or something like that.
Speaker 1: Ball guy. Yeah, he just threw it down the field
Speaker 1: forty yards and he went in and got It's a
Speaker 1: pretty high powered offense that he played it. Very poor
Speaker 1: man's Mike Evan at A and m yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely high powered. Gig him. All right. That does it
Speaker 1: for Talking Cowboys for this Tuesday, and we'll turn our
Speaker 1: attention fully towards the Falcon says the week. Yeah all right,
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