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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up Straight Fire Family, It's me Jason McIntyre,

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Speaker 2: straight ow Yer for Thursday, March the twenty sixth. Got

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Speaker 2: a great podcast today, Chad Writer stops by NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 2: He does a lot of mock drafts for them. I

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Speaker 2: hadn't heard this comparison for Fernando Mendoza Alex Smith, the

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Speaker 2: former Niners quarterback. I don't hate that Smith's was solid.

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Speaker 2: I think he's probably a little more fleet of foot

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Speaker 2: than Mendoza, but overall it's not a bad comp and

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Speaker 2: Chad and I agree, if Arch Manning were in this draft,

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Speaker 2: he probably goes one despite not having a great season.

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Speaker 2: It's not a great draft, but I want a bastard

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Speaker 2: draft real quick. Before we get to Chad a couple

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Speaker 2: a couple of news and notes, So if you're on

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Speaker 2: the site, you know you know that I like Illinois

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Speaker 2: against Houston. It was three, it was throwing the half,

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Speaker 2: then it goes down to three. Now it's two and

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Speaker 2: a half, and I really like Illinois. I'm in a Calcutta.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to give away my full picks because

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Speaker 3: some of the guys who are in the Calcutta listening

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Speaker 3: to this podcast, but you can only pick so in

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Speaker 3: the first day you had to pick two. I think

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Speaker 3: the first two days you had to pick two, and

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Speaker 3: then the next two days you picked one. So, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm so alive, but there's a lot of guys alive.

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Speaker 3: My problem is tonight in the Calcutta I used Perdue, right,

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Speaker 3: I'm obviously not using Texas. I don't. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: think Iowa wins, but I'm not gonna burn them in

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Speaker 3: the Survivor because you know the games are tossed up.

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Speaker 3: They're underdogs in Arizona, Arkansas, and then Houston, Illinois. Now

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Speaker 3: part of this is game theory, right, if you use one,

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Speaker 4: That's how survival works.

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Speaker 3: So these eight teams will play again on Saturday. I

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Speaker 3: can't use Perdue and Perdue. Then you have to go

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Speaker 3: over the bracket. Perdue is likely to play, get ready

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Speaker 3: for it, Arizona. I would like Arizona, and that's why

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Speaker 3: I would take Arizona. The other matchup is going to

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Speaker 3: take Purdue, I've already used them. I would take Arizona here.

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Speaker 3: Now I don't love that because Arizona I think is

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Speaker 3: But by taking Arizona and I think they're gonna beat Arkansas,

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Speaker 3: I then on Sunday would automatically pick the winner of

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Speaker 3: iowall buy anywhere from like five to eight points, so

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Speaker 3: I automatically, so I take Arizona. I think I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: that obviously, it'd have to still win Friday, but I

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Speaker 3: can't use Arizona. And you know what, it's not the

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Speaker 3: end of the world. Michigan Arizona in the final four.

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Speaker 3: But then I still can't use Arizona, so I'm kind

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Speaker 3: And then in the final four, I would be able

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Speaker 3: You know, like it's damn. I guess I can shoot

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Speaker 3: chances there. Survivor's tough in the NCAA tournament. Since we're

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Speaker 3: contractually obligated to talk about the Lakers, they went out

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Speaker 3: win by seven. Lakers got outscored by thirteen in the fourth.

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Speaker 3: They were just begging to get home. I mean, Bronnie

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Speaker 3: James was playing in the fourth quarter. Interesting Dalton connect.

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Speaker 3: I don't think played a minute on this road trip.

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Speaker 3: He's clearly out of the rotation. But the Lakers had

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, it's against Brooklyn. Oh my gosh. I mean

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Speaker 3: Brooklyn's horrific, But the Lakers will be very sleepy in

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Speaker 3: that spot. Luca, by the way, I had forty three.

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Speaker 3: Elsewhere around the association, Spurs win, Oh my gosh. Bucks

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Speaker 3: Billy Donovan's thinking about taking the North Carolina job, and

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Speaker 3: don't think the job is as great as everybody says

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Speaker 4: I don't want that smoke.

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Speaker 3: I mean you can make almost the same money, like

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Speaker 3: probably the NIL collective money is not that different. You

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Speaker 4: Dusty May leaves Michigan. That's insane.

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Speaker 3: Now, could you get like Iowa States coach? Maybe, But

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Just the weirdness around all that just

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Speaker 3: not denying Net. I just think in this era it

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Speaker 3: isn't as spectacular as the gap that it had before

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Speaker 3: North Carolina, that's a nuntbelieve everybody wants that job. I

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Speaker 3: just I don't think it's as much of a gap

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Speaker 3: All right, without further ado, let's get to our guest

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Speaker 3: Chad Writer NFL dot.

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Speaker 1: to listen live. Jason likes to think he knows everything

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Speaker 1: when it comes to sports. I know what's stance once,

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Speaker 1: But for everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 3: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into

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Speaker 3: straight fire a NFL draft guy. Because so much is

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Speaker 3: You've got analysts hyping Ty Simpson.

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Speaker 4: Those are the eyes popping out of my head.

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Speaker 3: Let's bring in Chad Writer, NFL dot Com draft specialist,

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Speaker 3: draft expert for over twenty years. Chad, are you enjoying

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Speaker 5: I am enjoying actually thinking about how players played on

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Speaker 5: the field last year and then and then, you know,

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Speaker 5: crazily just thinking about how that may affect where they

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Speaker 5: may get drafted. No, you know, the prota circuit is fine.

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Speaker 5: There are some interesting results that guys. For example, Kendrick

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Speaker 5: Fault from Auburn to not quite work out as well

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Speaker 6: Stuff like that can happen.

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Speaker 5: But like quarterbacks throwing against air, I'm just not going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's start with the quarterbacks. Ty Simpson had

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Speaker 3: his pro day Wednesday. Everybody's going gaga. Oh, look at

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Speaker 4: Okay, sure.

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Speaker 3: The most interesting thing I saw was there was only

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Speaker 3: got to go there in Alabama doesn't have as many

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Speaker 3: I get it. But Chad, you and I know this.

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Speaker 3: If you are in desperate need of a quarterback, you

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Speaker 3: got to you got to know everything about this guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised more gms aren't there if Ty Simpson was

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Speaker 3: such a hot commodity as Dan Orlovski from ESPN.

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Speaker 4: We're friendly, so I'm not bastling the guy.

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Speaker 3: I would like you to believe, what do you make

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Speaker 3: for First, what do you make a Simpsons pro day

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think, to be honest, these guys, like

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Speaker 5: you said, there's there's so many pro day is going

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Speaker 6: These guys will have.

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Speaker 5: Simpson in to their place to talk with them. They've

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Speaker 5: seen plenty of film on them, They've seen him throwing

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Speaker 5: or not. I think what's going to really come down

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Speaker 5: think we've seen that on tape, this talk about him

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Speaker 5: being number one over for NANDAM and Doz. I don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so a lot of guys are posting numbers. And

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Speaker 3: again you said these guys haven't played football, and now

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Speaker 3: we're going on like three four months. Well, men doz

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Speaker 3: have played in late January. But some of the numbers

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Speaker 3: You know, he had a couple He had a clutch drive,

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Speaker 5: Of course he can. He can get the ball deep,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, he wasn't great against Ohio State in the

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Speaker 3: Like he's got a LinkedIn. He's smart as hell, graduated

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Speaker 1: curious if teams reach for running back. We've seen chatter

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Speaker 5: You know, it's been a long time since somebody's traded

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Speaker 5: for example, I had Bonicks going twelve or earlier. So

433
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Speaker 5: I mean it just there's public perception and then there's

434
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 5: you know, you can't you kind of get the signs

435
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 5: at some point in the process where he's going to

436
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 5: be in that first round conversation. Now, it would be

437
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 5: interesting if you fell in the second round, because you know,

438
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 5: Jason Simpson, ty Simpson's dad, longtime coach at the college level,

439
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 5: called a bunch of gms and they all told him

440
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 5: first round. So either they're all lying to them or

441
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 5: they were all gms. I don't want quarterbacks, so they

442
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 5: could tell him whatever they want. You know that he

443
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 5: doesn't go first round, but I think that's definitely still

444
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 5: a possibility. I just because I put him in at

445
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 5: sixteen doesn't mean I don't think there's a you know,

446
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 5: a fair chance that he ends up going early second round.

447
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 5: And just because with quarterbacks it's really difficult to know

448
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 5: how much teams really like these guys or not.

449
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the shaduor Sanders case is incredible.

450
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 3: I mean as a chat, I'm not calling out myself

451
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 3: or any I don't know anyone who had him passed

452
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,239
Speaker 3: the first round. And if anybody wants to say, fine,

453
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: I had him second, fine, second round, okay, yeah, had

454
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: him top five he ended up with Now, I think

455
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: some of that was the NFL pushing back against you know,

456
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 3: his party and his flexing and all this stuff. I'm

457
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 3: just curious. There's none of that with Simpsons. So there's

458
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 3: no chance all like tumbles to the mid rounds, right.

459
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so. I think if you're looking

460
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 5: for guys that maybe go later than we thought, I

461
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 5: mean like a Drew Auler from Penn State, he may

462
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 5: not go until round five or six.

463
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 3: Wow.

464
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 5: You know, Garrettsmeyer is getting some pub now there is

465
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 5: Proday and all that stuff. But look, he played hurt,

466
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 5: so did Quinn yours played her and Ewers played a

467
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 5: lot more in his last year. He goes in the

468
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 5: seventh round, you.

469
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 4: Know, Smier bench twice or something like that.

470
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you could say it's because of the

471
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 5: injury or not. I don't know, but he was he

472
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 5: was benched, and so you know, I think teams may

473
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 5: like him enough. I don't know if his dad, Doug,

474
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 5: can you can dig him out of this one a

475
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 5: little bit and get him in the league in the

476
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 5: third round as possible. Somebody may you know, like him

477
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 5: enough to do that, but.

478
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 6: You know, it'll be very interesting.

479
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 5: So those are the kind of guys that you're not

480
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 5: quite sure how high they're going to go, even though

481
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 5: coming into the year they all had shots at being

482
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 5: you know, first round guys, which again is another warning

483
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 5: about assuming that there's gonna be six quarterbacks taken in

484
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Speaker 5: the first round. A lot of people were talking about

485
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 5: nussmer Cade Club, Nick All, you know, all these guys

486
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 5: as potential first round picks, and it just did not.

487
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 5: They did not, you know, take that stuff forward in

488
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 5: their final year, which is what makes us very difficult

489
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 5: to predict.

490
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 3: And fun, don't forget fun that too.

491
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's to be very boring if we knew the

492
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 6: whole time what was going to happen.

493
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Speaker 3: So that just made me think listening to you, it's like,

494
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 3: do you and is there will give me a scenario

495
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: where the Raiders don't take Mendos one, a meteor.

496
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 5: Strikes Las Vegas and they call off the draft. If honestly,

497
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 5: if the Raiders don't take Mendoza at one.

498
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 6: I don't know what to say. I really don't. I mean,

499
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 6: it doesn't make any sense to me.

500
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: Well there is you know, there's reports that Kirk Cousins

501
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 3: could be the backup, and maybe we start Kirk Cousins

502
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: and I don't know what if somebody's willing to give

503
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: you multiple ones for Fernanda Mendez, I don't see that.

504
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 4: But again, I don't think anyone had a whiff of

505
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 4: the Travis Hunter trade up yet.

506
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 5: Last well, I think you bring it. If you want

507
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 5: to bring in Kirk Cousins as the backup, that's great

508
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 5: because Mendoza and Cousins are sort of outside. We're kind

509
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 5: of saying it's Alex Smith and Kirk Cousins kind of

510
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 5: mesh their games together, and you know that's pretty much

511
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 5: what you got, So bring him him in and not

512
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 5: having to play Mendoza immediately will be because you know he's

513
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 5: a younger guy. He's not twenty four either, so give

514
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 5: him a chance. Maybe make sure your offensive line is

515
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 5: actually in good shape before you put the rookie out there,

516
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 5: and you know, make an and you know, so that's

517
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 5: not that I don't think that has anything to do

518
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 5: with or when Mendoza's in there. Anyway, the Falcons signed

519
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 5: Cousins to a huge deal and then signed you know,

520
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 5: and then picked Panics in the top of PENNI so like,

521
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 5: it's not, it's not, it's not wouldn't be in the

522
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 5: usual case.

523
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 3: Let me ask you about Stunny styles. You have him

524
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 3: top ten. It's weird. You know, he was good during

525
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: the season, but he was on a stacked defense with

526
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: a great line, a great secondary, and it's like, all right,

527
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 3: do we know how good he is? He goes to

528
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: the combine and absolutely crushes it looks like the incredible Hulk.

529
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 4: But Chad, I got he's a linebacker.

530
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: You know, I know, I know linebackers are good, and

531
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: but in terms of value, find me the last linebacker

532
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 3: that got drafted in the top ten that was like

533
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: a superstar.

534
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, Devin Bush, you know, wait, a superstar.

535
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 6: Yeah no, No, I'm just saying like, oh, oh, they don't.

536
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 6: They don't. Yeah, they don't. They don't usually.

537
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 5: And it's funny that you say that, because in my

538
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 5: new version that comes out, I do a five round

539
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 5: mock draft coming out next Friday. I've already put Styles

540
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 5: going twelfth to the Coups, which.

541
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Speaker 6: Would be his floor. So that would be his floor.

542
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 5: And what I'm going to say about that is that

543
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 5: not every Combine star becomes a top ten pick. For example,

544
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 5: Micah Parsons ran a four to three six at the forty.

545
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 5: He went twelfth to Dallas. Now, there was issues with

546
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 5: his length and teams weren't sure quite where he's going

547
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 5: to play it, But there are also questions about Styles

548
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 5: and the same thing you're saying. If you're thinking he's

549
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 5: a middle linebacker, only do you take that in the

550
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 5: in the top ten? Does you know the Giants? A

551
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 5: lot of people think the Giants are going to take

552
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 5: Styles at five, and they could because he's a good player,

553
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 5: but that's pretty rich for and you could get a

554
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 5: Caleb Downs who is going to be the leader of

555
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 5: your defense for ten years. You can get Jeremiah Love

556
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 5: if he's available. There's there's other options for them at

557
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 5: five missieur Delayne if you want that special corner. So

558
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 5: I think there's a chance Styles falls to Dallas to

559
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 5: twelve as well. So I'm not I don't necessarily disagree

560
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 5: with you, but with every mock, I do like four

561
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 5: of the big mocks, and I like to mix it

562
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 5: up a little bit in each one and think about

563
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 5: things that maybe other people aren't, you know, zig we're

564
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 5: other people'sag a little bit, just because things happen that

565
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: are unexpected every year, and so I try to predict

566
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: the unpredictable, which of course makes me look like an

567
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 5: idiot sometimes, but that's, you know, only partially false. Yeah,

568
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 5: So you know, I just keep going with it. And

569
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 5: so I think you're right about Styles. You could definitely

570
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 5: be available a little bit later than people are projecting that.

571
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: I put out my mock Wednesday, and I had Styles

572
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 3: to the Cowboys, mostly because like, Jerry's not gonna let

573
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: him get passed right. Obviously their defense is horrible. They

574
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: tried to trade for Max Crosby. I mean, I don't

575
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: know what the Cowboys are doing. I don't know their

576
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 3: game plan. It doesn't make sense. But I definitely like

577
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 3: that and the idea that you would take an off

578
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 3: ball linebacker at five. I mean this, look at the

579
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: second contract for those guys. Those not a lot of

580
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: them get paid. Or I mean, if you were charting

581
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 3: most important right, so quarterback is number one, and then

582
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 3: you know, I guess left tackle or edge rusher too,

583
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: Which would you rather have there?

584
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 6: Yeah?

585
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I well, I'm a fat dude, so I

586
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 5: like the offensive lineman, so I probably take the left

587
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 5: tackle too to neutralize the edge wresser. But but I

588
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 5: I you know, I could, I could go either way

589
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 5: and that.

590
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 6: But here's the thing.

591
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 5: About athletes like Styles. Teams are getting a lot more

592
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 5: multiple in their looks, and they're asking off ball linebackers

593
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 5: to do more blitzing. And I didn't really start with Parsons,

594
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 5: but Parsons was mostly considered an off the ball linebacker

595
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 5: when he came up on State. He was a good blitzer,

596
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 5: but it's not he wasn't an edge player. And you

597
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 5: know the one thing.

598
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 6: With Styles is if somebody thinks.

599
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 5: He could turn him into an edge like, they're gonna

600
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 5: really turn Rvel Reese into an edge, then his value

601
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 5: maybe becomes a little bit more. But if they don't,

602
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 5: if they think, really he's a he's a between the

603
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 5: tackles linebacker who can get outside, I mean in that

604
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 5: more typical role than yeah, I think probably in the middle.

605
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 5: But look, don't don't think that he can't get five

606
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 5: six sacks a year as a blitzer, you know, I

607
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 5: think that's a real possi ability.

608
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he's better, he's a better pass rusher than

609
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: Roquan Smith. But I don't like Reeves flashed as a

610
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: pass rusher last year. When he did, that's when the

611
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: Micah Parsons things were like, holy cow, who's this guy?

612
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 5: But you know, Styles, you know, as like you said,

613
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 5: everybody has their different roles on a defense, and Styles's

614
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 5: role wasn't to be the past. So if you give

615
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 5: him that opportunity, he may become that if somebody thinks

616
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 5: he could can do that. So that's what we're not

617
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 5: sure about when we project these things. What a team

618
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: thinks that player's role is going to be. And if

619
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 5: somebody thinks he could do that, then you know, maybe

620
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 5: they take a shot on him early.

621
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: The other guy I had dropping in my mock a

622
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: little bit was Ruben Bain most most of the year.

623
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: You see him, Oh, he's top five, he's a lock.

624
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: Look at this guy's a menace off the edge. And

625
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: then the short arms measurement comes out and yeah, I

626
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: know I've seen some of the data. Hey, he would

627
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: be the first edge rusher with the or the edge

628
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: rusher with the shortest arms drafted in the first round

629
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: like ever or some ridiculous step.

630
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

631
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I dropped him to the teams and some people like,

632
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: that's too low. There's no way he's there. I don't know, man.

633
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: I had him going to the Ravens at fourteen. Do

634
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: you still think he's a top ten guy?

635
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 6: Well, that would be such Okay, I'm gonna say this,

636
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 6: that's so Ravens. Is that a thing?

637
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 5: Because they just sit there and wait for these guys

638
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 5: to fall to him, Right, That's what that would do.

639
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 6: But I don't think.

640
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 5: I think either Styles or Bayin goes top ten, and

641
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 5: whichever one of those two guys doesn't go top ten,

642
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 5: the Dallas isn't gonna let go, I think.

643
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 6: So that's where I say it.

644
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 5: But I projected Bayin going eleventh to Miami in the

645
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 5: last one because of the length issue. But another interesting

646
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 5: thing which I had forgotten about, is that Parsons when

647
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 5: he was at the combine, measured thirty one and a

648
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Speaker 5: half in charms and that may have caused him. Part

649
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 5: of his reason that he was available at twelve to

650
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 5: Dallas is because of that. So do teams say, you

651
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 5: know what, forget about it. He's a heck of a player.

652
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 5: We're gonna run with it. We want him like Washington,

653
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 5: could you know, love him? New Orleans could love him.

654
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 5: These teams that are kind of going again, everybody's going

655
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 5: more multiple and he can stand up or be honest,

656
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 5: So like, he can do a lot of stuff. And

657
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 5: I won't be surprised if he goes top ten, but

658
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 5: like I said, eleven or twelve, I wouldn't be shocked

659
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 5: at either, just because of that issue. And Jason Leakinford

660
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 5: came out with the report recently that where he's talking

661
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 5: with NFL Exac and he says, well, we don't worry

662
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: about his arm length because he's got this wingspan differential.

663
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 5: That's okay, so we're not worried about it. Well, I

664
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: actually looked at the wingspan differential, which is wingspan minus

665
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 5: height and the NBA uses all the time and their

666
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 5: draft stuff because they want to see the guys with

667
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 5: the super long arms even if they're six eight, you know.

668
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 5: And he still was like fortieth out of fifty guys

669
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 5: in the past ten years ed rushers or something, so

670
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 5: he didn't really fare that well in that metric either.

671
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 5: But some of the guys behind him were like Aiden

672
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 5: hud So there's some pretty decent players behind him even

673
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 5: in that metric. So I think teams may be laying

674
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 5: off that a little bit in terms of there's not

675
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 5: a better football player out there this year. Maybe if so,

676
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 5: like Cultric Fulk, like I was just talking about from Auburn,

677
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 5: if he had blown up the colbine and if he

678
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 5: had really done well at his pro day and look great,

679
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 5: he's going to push into that top ten because he's

680
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 5: got the measurables as well as you know, the he's

681
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 5: got the excuse me, the athleticism as well as the

682
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 5: measurables now with an average measure average athleticism and well

683
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,239
Speaker 5: for them anyway, and the measurables. So I think in

684
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 5: this draft, guys like Cassius Hull would never be a

685
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 5: first round pick typically because of his lack of length

686
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 5: and Rubin Bain may get the benefit of doubt a

687
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 5: little bit and say, hey, look, they're still the best

688
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 5: players even without their length, so you know, let's let's

689
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 5: let's bring them in anyway.

690
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: Right, that's a great comp to Parsons. I just looked

691
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: it up on mock draftable. So his arm like thirty

692
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: one and a half nineteenthile. Yeah, then you go to

693
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: Bain thirty and seven eight in the first percentile, which

694
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: is a little scary. But here's what I guess, Like,

695
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: I don't. I would love to talk to a GM

696
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: about this process, but like, did Baine face any potential

697
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: NFL left tackles this season? And if so, how did

698
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: he feel against.

699
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 5: He looked just fine, Like he he plays without a

700
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 5: leverage I think part of the reason that they're okay.

701
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 5: I think he plays with leverage because he's short, which

702
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 5: helps him in the leverage game. And he's so powerful,

703
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 5: like he packs a powerful punch and he really it's

704
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 5: hard to get a control now even if he played

705
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 5: good left tackles like for example, Cassius Hall. At the

706
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 5: end of the year, he took on Mark Halibell in

707
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 5: Miami and there was nothing happening there because you know,

708
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 5: Bell is super long, super huge, and hell couldn't get

709
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 5: around him.

710
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 6: And that's that's the problem.

711
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 5: These guys are gonna face. Yeah, but again, you have

712
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 5: to find somebody else that's a better player than him, right,

713
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 5: And I'm not sure that you can say there are

714
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 5: eleven twelve better players than Ruby m Bain in this

715
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 5: in this draft, even with the arm lights.

716
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Speaker 3: Well, like so Bain's teammate messagor yeah, like he he's

717
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: gonna go somewhere in the teens, maybe twenties.

718
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 6: Where do you have him? Yep, yeah, I have him.

719
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 5: I think in my last knock I had the Cowboys

720
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 5: picking him up at twenty. I could see Tampa Bay

721
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 5: picking him at fifteen, depending on you know, what the

722
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 5: Jets do with sixteen. He's going to go somewhere in

723
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 5: the middle of that first round because when you watch them,

724
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 5: it's interesting. You know, you've got Bain who's getting a

725
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 5: lot of attention on one side, and Messager is just

726
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 5: going right around his guy. And I'll be very interested

727
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 5: to see if like a Detroit or somebody like that

728
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 5: has some interesting trades up for him. Maybe if if

729
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 5: they think they could like him. So there's a lot

730
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 5: to like about his game, even though he's of advanced

731
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 5: age as as old people like me I like to say,

732
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 5: and in those kind of things. So yeah, I think

733
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 5: I think the late teens is probably the the spot

734
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 5: for him.

735
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like again, I know it comes off like

736
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: we're bashing Bain, but like, if you take Bain with

737
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 3: the short arms in like the second or third round,

738
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: holy hell. I mean, he could be an All Pro,

739
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: he could have an amazing season, and he's great value.

740
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: But if you take him at ten, you're expecting, like, hey,

741
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: he's got it. There's pressure on him to deliver, and

742
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: it's just I don't know that he will. Right.

743
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 5: He's one of the top twelve guys in this draft,

744
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 5: regardless of position, right, So he's not going to fall

745
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 5: loadier than twelve. I mean, even if you put him

746
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 5: at that, you know, that's just my take on it.

747
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, not to look ahead to twenty twenty seven, but

748
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: as the Jets fan, this season for me is cooked.

749
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 3: I don't care if it's Tie Simpsons, you know, Smith,

750
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter. They're not doing anything. I'm just

751
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 3: curious looking back at the college season last year. Did

752
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 3: your opinion on arch Banning change from the Ohio State

753
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: game to the end of the season.

754
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 5: I didn't get as low as some people did on

755
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 5: him even in the start of the year, because look,

756
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 5: he he wasn't an experienced guy. And as the year on,

757
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 5: I think myself, if he's in this draft, he's probably

758
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: the number two pick.

759
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 4: That's my guys, Wait, number two quarterback or number two.

760
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 6: Overall, number of two overall?

761
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, the Jets are drafting too.

762
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.

763
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: So actually Raider the Raiders hell could probably take it.

764
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: But one.

765
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe maybe I see how that would have worked out.

766
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 5: But but no, I think I think he's gonna be

767
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 5: definitely in that number one mix next year. I just

768
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 5: think as the year went on, you saw him get

769
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 5: way more comfortable.

770
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 3: Yep.

771
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 5: I haven't looked to see what kind of receivers they've

772
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 5: brought in to help him out next year through the

773
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 5: transfer pointal one and stuff.

774
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 3: But they have some young guys.

775
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 5: They already had some young guys too, so like, I

776
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 5: don't know, it would be very interesting. But I think

777
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 5: as the year went on, you saw what everybody has

778
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 5: seen from him at the lower levels and you just

779
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 5: hope that he can, you know, turn it up one

780
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 5: more notch next year and not be the club mix.

781
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 5: And you know some of these guys that just don't

782
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 5: make it happen that way year.

783
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's I mean, it's been almost an epidemic

784
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 3: in the last like five years, Spencer Rattler. All these

785
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: guys who go in as the number one just seem

786
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 3: to flop. And it's guys like cam Ward coming out

787
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 3: of nowhere. Mendoza a year ago. At this time, Mendoza

788
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: was like, oh, you had a good year at Cow.

789
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: We had like sixteen touchdowns. There was nobody saying he

790
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: could go first round or even definitely not number one overall.

791
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it is. Quarterbacks are the most difficult thing

792
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 5: to do. And the thing is is when you're predicting

793
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 5: a year in advance, there's so much to happen. There's

794
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 5: just too much to happen, and you just can't be

795
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 5: accurate about it at some level unless a guy is

796
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 5: a absolute can't miss thing, and that doesn't happen very often.

797
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: Good luck with that.

798
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 5: Ye Usually, if you do a mock draft right after

799
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 5: this one is over, there's going to be twelve to

800
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 5: fifteen guys that aren't going to be in the first

801
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 5: round that are from that mock. It's it's just a

802
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 5: matter of math, and you know, the the unpredictability of

803
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 5: things for sure.

804
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: All right, Chad Ryder NFL dot com, he's got us.

805
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: You said, a five round monk coming out or six.

806
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 6: Yep, five round on next Friday's amazing?

807
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 3: Do you get negative feedback for that?

808
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 4: Are mostly positive?

809
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 6: The stuff I see is pretty positive.

810
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: That's great.

811
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 6: Negative negative stuff.

812
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 5: I just kind of let go because you know, people

813
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 5: don't really know, but I I enjoy doing it.

814
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 6: I talk to people in the league.

815
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 5: They enjoy them, and oh, of course, you know that's

816
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 5: you know, I think that's really the thing. It's a

817
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to be nostro damas. It's just interesting

818
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 5: to think about different scenarios and really where guys I put.

819
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 6: I put guys by.

820
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 5: Tier of value and not I don't go just go

821
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 5: team by team like this guy, they need this, they

822
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 5: need this, they need this, just like Okay, here are

823
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 5: the top fifty guys, how do they fit? How are

824
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 5: the top eighty guys here? So I'm really trying to

825
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 5: get a sense of where guys are going to go

826
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 5: generally and see if I can get the team fits

827
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 5: to make that, to make that happen. So it's really

828
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 5: just a big puzzle, except it's a thousand pieces and

829
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 5: I don't have the box, so I have no idea

830
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 5: what it's going to look like at the end.

831
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 6: But it's a lot of fun.

832
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: That's good stuff, all right, chat thanks a lot man,

833
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: have a good one.

834
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 6: Thanks