1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Sports Radio, The Pride of Bowling Green. He's Scotty Miller, 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers wide receiver, joins his son on 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: the program. Scottie, thanks for joining us, Congratulations getting to 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Thank you, thanks for having me on. 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: All right, take me into the huddle, final play, first half? 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: What's the play call? Yeah, so, I mean even before that, 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: just to go for it. That was a big decision 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: for the coaches on that on that fourth down. But 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: then for that play call, we just called a go 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: route for me and Mike. I really thought I was 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: going to turn into hell Mary type of thing. I 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: was telling Chris before the play to wide, not with 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: me and the bunch. But then that came out on 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: just single high defense, so I was able to get 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: a one on one matchup and he wasn't even balance 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: too too fast like I'm sure you've seen. So that 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 1: was just your right, bio. But when did you know 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: that this could turn into a touchdown? Yeah, so like 20 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: before the PLAYO I said, I wasn't really expected and 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: this to happen at all. But right when I right 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: when I took off and I saw him not running. 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: In my head, I'm like, dude, I'm like number twenty, 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: you better running that. So at that moment when I 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: saw him just kind of like in a slow background, 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm about to score. And then I looked 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: up and some times's not to say thing I did 28 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: in the ball is just floating. So but how do 29 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: you hide or disguise that you're gonna go deep like that? 30 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: I think that they thought you guys were gonna try 31 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: to get into field goal range, But how do you 32 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: hide the fact that, hey, I'm gonna try to blow 33 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: right by you? Yeah, I mean for me, I think, 34 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: first of all, the coaches did a good job. I 35 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: was gonna cut split and a bunch, so they probably 36 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: thought I was gonna go running out right or something 37 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: like that. But for me, like as far as my 38 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: technique could just run right at his blind spot where 39 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: he can't see him because his eyes are looking at 40 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback, so he could he doesn't know if I'm 41 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: gonna break out. You know, it kind of confused him 42 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: when I run right at his blind spot and then 43 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: I just at that point stick my foot in the 44 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,919 Speaker 1: ground go by. What did Brady say after the touchdown. Honestly, 45 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I remember. I was going crazy. 46 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: I was like running circles in the ends on. We 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: know what was going on, but it was an unbelievable moment. 48 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: He was pumped, he came up. He's always celebrating with 49 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: us and ends on that. He's big on that. Um. 50 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: So you know something like let's go, you know, so 51 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: it's did you keep the football? Yeah? I got it absolutely. 52 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: I think get Brady to autograph it, it'd be nice. Yeah, 53 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta get a couple of couple of 54 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: signatures from here a season gets football. I don't think 55 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: you could get King to sign it though, the Packers 56 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: defensive back. I think that would be mean spirited. Those gun. Um, 57 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: when did you know you were fast? Um? Ever since 58 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: I was able to run really from a young age, 59 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: I've always been the fastest one in my grade. And 60 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: I remember winning races field day and fifth and third fourth, 61 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: fifth grade, stuff like that. I've always been just naturally 62 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: got given, just blessed with blessing portnow speed, But it's 63 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: one thing to run on recess in a playground, and 64 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: then you get on a football field and when did 65 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: you when you like, there's quickness and then or speed. 66 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: When did you realize you had speed? Same type of thing. 67 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: For me, it's always I've been doing the same type 68 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: of thing ever since i was a little kid. If 69 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: you look at highlights from when I was in playing 70 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: youth football in fifth grade, when I started, I was 71 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: doing the same thing, just running by dudes and catching 72 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: deep balls. So I've really just I really had him 73 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: my whole life. But then at this, like in high school, 74 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: I think I really once I started running track, really 75 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: started to develop and know that I could run with 76 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: the best of them. But you run a four to 77 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: three nine at your pro day? Is that the best 78 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: you've ever run? Yeah? I mean that, I would like 79 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: to say it was a little lower than that. I wish. 80 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: I wish I got invited to the combine, so I 81 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: had like a laser timing because at my pro to 82 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: had like twenty scouts with hand times and some dudes. 83 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: I some dudes told me I ran the high four two. 84 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: Some guys told me mid four three. It was just 85 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: like everywhere, and then four three nine came out. I 86 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: don't know where that exactly comes from, but I'd like 87 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: to I wish I ran one where I could tell 88 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: people exactly what I ran. But you get labeled like 89 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: you you probably got bunched in with Julian Edelman and 90 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: Wes Welker even though you're not really like them and 91 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: you play in the MAC. You weren't highly recruited, Like 92 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: how did you fall through the cracks where you really 93 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: had a hard time just you know, getting somebody's eyes 94 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: on you. Yeah, it's always been a it's a tough 95 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: road for me ever since high school, was just getting noticed. 96 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: Only have one FBS offer, and I think it's just 97 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: because I'm undersized. I'm still under the highs in the NFL. 98 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: But uh, that's always made me make me work even 99 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: harder to prove people wrong. And I love the daughters. 100 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: Any defensive backs say, man, you're a little bit faster 101 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: than I thought. Yeah, I mean that's whenever I get 102 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: to a team, whether it be Bowling Green or now 103 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 1: with the Bucks or anybody I play against or everyone 104 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: always just tell me that. But you and Brady got 105 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: something in common though, sixth dound draft picks, like you 106 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: know that's right. Hopefully, hopefully I can have a hope 107 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: I can have a similar career to him. Official height 108 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: and weight, not program official high. Wait, I'm five nine 109 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: right now. Probably lost a couple of palms in the season, 110 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: probably one seventy. Are you sure you're five nine? Yes? 111 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm five five nine, yes, okay, I mean it sounds 112 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: better if you're five eight, like five eight and a half. Like, 113 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: how would you do if you and Tyreek Hill lined up? 114 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm taking me every day of the week. Um, I'll 115 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: take me over anybody. Tyreek is unbelievable, uh, super quick, 116 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: unbelievable talent. But we're talking about race. I mean, I 117 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: got all the confidence of myself against going up against anybody. Wait, 118 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: you think you're the fastest guy in the NFL? Yes, sir. 119 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: What's that like though? To get in the blocks in 120 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: high school and you're running one hundred meters and you 121 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: look around, they're probably looking at you like this guy 122 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: run Like did you have that feeling? Absolutely? Yeah? I 123 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: think people always slept on me. Um, but they're gonna 124 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: find that. Really, what's that gun go? They're gonna find 125 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: down really quick one. What's the nickname that you have? Uh? 126 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: Scooter is the big one, especially this year. Tom really 127 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: uh drove that one home. So that's what that's what 128 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: everyone's been calling. We gotta get something a little more badass, 129 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: like like Scoot is. I don't know how much smoke 130 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: smoke like smoke, but you know, I was thinking, maybe 131 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: you don't want to name that's flashy where they you 132 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: draw too much attention, Like you gotta fly under the radar. Yeah, 133 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: not a bad thing. Yeah, he's uh, Scottie Miller, he's 134 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers wide receiver. That flight back home, 135 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: what was it like from Green Bay? It was amazing. 136 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: It's so much fun. The locker room after was insane. 137 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: I've never experienced anything like that. Um, of course, you 138 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: got gronking crazy and everybody having so much fun. Did 139 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: Gronk have his shirt off? Oh yeah, you already know, 140 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, you know, he did dance it all over 141 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: the place. Everyone's taking a bit deos of him. But 142 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: we got such a great group of guys. We had, 143 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: we had a great song. But you're I mean, this 144 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: is pretty amazing. You're what twenty three, yes, sir, and 145 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: you're around Tom Brady. I mean, yeah, that's wild. I 146 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: could never imagine any of this stuff happening, So I'm 147 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: just taking it one day. That's ivages. It's just it's 148 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: it's a crazy experience. Has he yelled at you before? Yeah, 149 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: he hasn't got after me too too bad, m but 150 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: him and he gets on everybody he expects. He expects greatness. Um, 151 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: so he's gonna get it out of you. What's it 152 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: like with Are you guys gonna be in your home 153 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: or in a hotel? H super Bowl week? We are 154 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: going to be at home. I think we're We only 155 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: shove up to the hotel in the night before the game, 156 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: so I'll be at home in these next two weeks. 157 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: Are you okay with then? Yeah? Absolutely? Um, I like it. 158 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: It's where I'm comfortable. I got my wife here. Let's 159 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: just get to hang out with her just like I I 160 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: can normally do and try to make the moment not 161 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: as big as it is, and I think that will 162 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: help up. You watch film already with the Chiefs. Yeah, 163 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: and we've played them, as you know, we played them earlier, 164 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: so I know a lot what they do. I know 165 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: the guys that they have. But we'll really get after that. 166 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: Tomorrow will be in the building all day and then 167 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: pretty much every day leading up to the Super Bowl. 168 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Are you recognized in Tampa. Um. This year is different 169 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: because I don't even go out and in the last round, 170 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: like anyone would know who I am. This year probably 171 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: still not. But but occasionally if if I'm at the 172 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: mall or something, sometimes people you know, say something to me. 173 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: But if you look at me, probably don't think that's 174 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: an NFL player. So even if you had your jersey 175 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: on those Scottie, yeah, they may think I'm just some 176 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: fan wearing the number ten, wondering who number ten is. 177 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: But how many tickets do you get for the Super Bowl? 178 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: I still don't know the answer that question. Um, they're 179 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. I've heard a whole bunch 180 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: of different things, but I'm hoping to get as I can. 181 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: But what kind of requests? How many people have asked 182 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: for tickets? Oh my goodness, I mean everybody you could 183 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: you could think of, um who doesn't want to come 184 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. So that's where it's tough to 185 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: figure out who. But I know, I hope I get 186 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: at least three, so I can at least get my 187 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: parents and my wife to come, and then you know, 188 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: trying to get a couple other people that are really 189 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: meaningful to me in my life. But you tell your 190 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: kids about Gronk or about Brady h. Gronk would probably 191 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: be the first one to come to mind because all 192 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: the stories and all the well, give me, give me 193 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: a story, like what's the one where you go you 194 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: come home and you say to your wife, this is Gronk, 195 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: um Man. I don't know if I can point to 196 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: one off the top of my head, but I mean 197 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: we were playing basketball and just watching him by basketball. 198 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: It's pretty funny. It was at Berkeley in the summer, 199 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: just watching him golf and Dug kind of joke a 200 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: out and just the way he goes about it. It's 201 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: just he's just hilarious. But but he's not gonna be 202 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: doing kegstands right anything like that? You like, you missed 203 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: out on that that Gronk. Yeah, I don't know. I 204 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: mean we went there next. I don't retirement. I don't know. Hey, well, congratulations, 205 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: it's been a fun ride and uh, you know be 206 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: uh big time stuff though going on on that on 207 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: that field. But you get to play, are you gonna 208 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: feel like it's a home game? I don't know, honestly, 209 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean we'll see. Um. I think it's gonna definitely 210 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: make it seem a lot like not as big of 211 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: a moment because we're playing our home stadium where we 212 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: always play. Um, I don't need even Sunday, but um, 213 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: we'll see. I think we're all really excited to have 214 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: a lot of our fans are gonna be there, so 215 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun. Yeah, it'll be different from Lambeau. 216 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: But look, you played in Bowling Green, so that you know, 217 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you played in cold weather. You're from Chicago, 218 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: so that's nothing. Now you get to, you know, play 219 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: in Tampa. Hey, this year, I've been used to not 220 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: everyone's used to play in cold weather with no fans there. 221 00:10:54,960 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: That's one thing that was your college career, right bowl. Hey. 222 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: Congrats though, Scottie, and it'll be fun watching you and 223 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: good luck. Thanks man, I appreciate you. That's Scottie Miller. 224 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: Smoke Smoke Miller. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 225 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 226 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific 227 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 228 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or 229 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by 230 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: searching f s R or stream us live on the 231 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: Peacock app Let's bring in a friend of the show. 232 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, the former number one overall pick by the Bengals, 233 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner at USC and he is now College 234 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Famer. Carson, How are you today? I'm well, Dan, 235 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. Where do you want to start? 236 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: Wherever you want to go? How would you feel if 237 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: you're Jared Golf? Yeah, I mean it's a tough situation. 238 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: He's gone in and he started, you know, his career 239 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: really slowly, obviously with the end of the Coach Fisher 240 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: area or era, and then with Coach McVeigh coming in. 241 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: He was hot and they were on fire and Todd 242 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: Gurley was rolling. But as soon as you saw Gurley 243 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: slow down with the injuries, you started to notice that 244 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: he was the centerpiece that offense. He was the engine 245 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: that made that offense go. Without Gurley and without some 246 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: of the weapons they've they've been missing guys like Cooper 247 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: Cup With injuries, Goff has looked like he had he 248 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: doesn't have the ability to carry a team on his shoulders, 249 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: and it sounds like the Rams to figure that out 250 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: and maybe looking to go in a different direction. But 251 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: also you look at these quarterbacks now, Carson, compare how 252 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: you were coming out of USC and being ready for 253 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: the NFL with let's say, I know your brother's been 254 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: working out Trevor Lawrence. How ready Trevor Lawrence is compared 255 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: to the way you were when you were coming out 256 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: of USC. Oh, Trevor Lawrence is just as prepared as 257 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: anybody that's that's coming onto the from the college scene 258 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: into the NFL scene. I mean he's he's been in 259 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: a very very difficult pro style offense. He's played against great, 260 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: great competition in a future NFL players. Um, he's no 261 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: doubt ready. I mean he's still got another year left, 262 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: he still has um you know, he could go back 263 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: and continue to develop, but you know he's he's ready. 264 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: He's physically ready, he's mentally ready. He's played on big 265 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: stages and played extremely well on big stages. So you 266 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: know he's as ready as myself, you know, Andrew Luck, 267 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: you name it. Um, he's prepared. H you know, going 268 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: to Clemston, playing for that coaching staff, there's no doubt 269 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: in my mind he's ready to translate in the NFL. 270 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: What's your brothers say about Trevor Lawrence, what's what's the 271 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: biggest best thing that he does? UM. I think the 272 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: thing that jumped out to me is just maturity. He 273 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: just said, you know, for a guy that's still got 274 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: time left at the college level, and you know, he 275 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: came in and played as a true freshman. Um. The 276 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: first thing that he said, and it's the same thing 277 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: he said about Joe Burrow last year, was maturity. And 278 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, I want to hear about on talent, speed 279 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: and quickness and release and houses whip and you know, accuracy, 280 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: all those things. And the two things he jumped that 281 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: jumped out at me when he started talking about Joe 282 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: Burrow and Trevor was they're just mature beyond their years. 283 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: And that's interesting. But that's really important because I go 284 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: back to what Urban Meyers said about Dwayne Haskins prior 285 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: to the draft. He said, maturity concerns here and I 286 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: don't know if we ever factor that in or how 287 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: tangible something like that is. We're always looking for how 288 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: quick are you? You know, what's your wonderlicked test score? 289 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: How do you do in front the white board? What 290 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: are your medicals there? But to understand maturity, Like, how 291 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: do you gauge that? Well, it should have been a 292 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: red flag for the Redskins when the head coach of 293 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: the university that that player was coming from says that, 294 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: I mean that to me. You know, you hear so 295 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: many coaches hype up players, and that's their job. Their 296 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: job is to recruit these high school kids at eighteen 297 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: and tell their mom and dad they're going to take 298 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: care of them and be a father figure for him 299 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: on campus, you know, develop those players men to leave 300 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: physically and then start singing their praises and when they're 301 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: getting ready to go to the NFL, because that is 302 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: good on those head coaches resumes when they have high 303 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: draft picks or number one, number two, number three picks. 304 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: But when the head coach that's supposed to be singing 305 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: your praises isn't, to me, that's a massive red flag. 306 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Bruce arians was your head coach with the Cardinals. What 307 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: kind of coach was he? Old school? Very you know, 308 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: with so many of these young head coaches you're seeing 309 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: in Matt Lafleur and Sean McVay and so on and 310 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: so forth, Bruce didn't didn't play that game. Bruce was 311 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: a grinder and he still is a grinder. You're going 312 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: to practice every you know, every opportunity that the CBA 313 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: lets you practice. We're gonna be on the field, We're 314 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: gonna have pads on, we're gonna be thumping. And there's 315 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: so many other These young coaches come in. They want 316 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: to do walkthroughs, and they want to sit in more meetings, 317 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: and they want to talk more football. Bruce's old school. 318 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: Bruce will talk a little bit of football, but he 319 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: wants to be out on the field proving it. And 320 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: that's what's so amazing to me about Tom Brady is 321 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's not missing practices, He's not taken better in 322 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: days off, He's not rehabbing small injuries. He's practicing week in, 323 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: week out. And just knowing the way that Bruce rolls. 324 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: You know, that's one of the things that got the 325 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the Super Bowl game, is that 326 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: work ethic that Bruce has brought in and instilled in 327 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: that program. But how important do you think his personality, 328 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: his approach being different from Bill Belichick's maybe suited Tom 329 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: Brady or Brady. It attracted Brady to the Buccaneers. Well, 330 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: I think the first thing that attracted Brady to the 331 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: Buccaneers is the talent level. You know, everybody was so 332 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: shocked that. But why would Brady go to Tampa. I 333 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: can't believe he's not going to La or New York. 334 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: He wouldn't worry about market size. Brady was worried about playmakers. 335 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: You know, his last couple of years in New England, 336 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: Julian Edelman was his number one. You know, Julian Edelman 337 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: have seven catches for sixty five yards. He needed a 338 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: guy like Mike Evans that could have five catches for 339 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: one seventy and Godwin who could have a catches for 340 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: one seventy eight. You know, he needed that explosiveness and 341 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: he knew it. So he didn't care about the market 342 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: size or the coaching staff. He was really going to 343 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: a place that had great players. I mean you look 344 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: at that roster offensively, defensively, on the offensive line and 345 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: defensive line. I mean that that team is extremely well 346 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: built by Jason Light the GM there, and that's what 347 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: he was looking for. You've heard, you know, Bruce talk 348 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: about Brady's coaching ability and he's always talking to younger players. 349 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: And you know, in their ears and giving them pointers 350 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: here and there. He knew he could help on the 351 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: coaching side. He needed athletes, he needed talent, and he 352 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: found the most talented roster. And that's why he's in Tampa. 353 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: What does Brady do better than Patrick Mahomes. It has 354 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. It's obviously not physical. It's 355 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: all upstairs. I think his understanding of defenses, his understanding 356 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: of his own protection schemes and how to change those 357 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: protection schemes, and split seconds at the line of scrimmage. 358 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Patrick's a smart kid and obviously once in 359 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: a generation talent physically, but Brady's got so many years 360 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: of being in the moment, third and long in the 361 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: red zone, got to score situations where he had to 362 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: change a protection or had to change a play within 363 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: the matter of three seconds and get everybody on the 364 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: same page with him on offense and execute the play. 365 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: That takes years. That takes just time and time again, repetition, 366 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. And Patrick doesn't quite 367 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: have that underneath his belt like Tom does after twenty 368 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: plus years in the league. We just said Scottie Miller 369 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: on last Hour, and he said that he knew it 370 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: was going to be a touchdown because he took three 371 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: steps and he could see the defensive back was looking 372 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: in the backfield at Brady and he said, number twenty, 373 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: you better turn and run because he was going to 374 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: blow right by him. How often does that happen where 375 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: you kind of see a touchdown before it's a touchdown. 376 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: I'd say two or three times a game. I mean, 377 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: you you go into a game plan, you have eight 378 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: to ten shots that you're they're called shots, long play action, 379 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: throwing the ball downfield fifty sixty plus yards, and every 380 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: once in a while a play comes in and you're 381 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: just you're calling it in the huddle and you're going, 382 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: please God, please be in quarters coverage, or please be 383 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: in man, or please be in this zone. And every 384 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: once in a while, you walk a plane of scrimmage, 385 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: you see the bluff of the defense they're trying to 386 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: show single high, and then right as you're getting ready 387 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: to snap, you see the defense unfold into the defense 388 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: that they're going to play on that play, and you go, 389 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: I got them. And that's exactly what happened on that play. 390 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure, as Scottie said, I'm sure the same thing 391 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: was going on on Brady's head is they were bluffing 392 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: cover too, and they went to single high. He was 393 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: just thinking, please number twenty, please just stay low and 394 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: let Scotty get on top of you, and I got 395 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: a touchdown before the half. He's Carson Palmer, the former 396 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: Bengals quarterback and now a College Football Hall of Famer. 397 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: He's joining us on behalf of the CBD brand Levels Select. 398 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: They're launching their new level C support CBD oil drops 399 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: to help people stay at the top of their game 400 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: this cold and flute season. Why do you think the 401 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: Players Association or the NFL I should say relaxed the 402 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: marijuana testing. I just thought it was another issue they 403 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: had to deal with, and you know, it was just 404 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: easier to relax it than be more stringent, especially with 405 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: every you know, it seems like every state in this 406 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: country is legalizing it. It seemed that it just seemed, 407 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, to them, as another hurdle, another issue, another 408 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: media topic that they have to deal with, and with 409 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: the rest of the country being more relaxed, they decided 410 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: to lax their rules. The difference between CBD and marijuana. 411 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: If you could have smoked marijuana legally back when you 412 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: were playing to get through you know, aches and pains 413 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: or whatever. Would you if it helped me? Like CBD? 414 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: Does you know after playing for fifteen years, I don't know, 415 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: three knee surgeries on my left knee, thumb surgery, shoulder, 416 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: all kinds of issues. Um, you know, I'm at a 417 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: point in my life now, being forty one years old, 418 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: where I just I don't want to be in pain, 419 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: and you get tired of being in pain. You get 420 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: tired of that constant headache that you have in your knee, 421 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: and so I use level select CBD on my knee. 422 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm going skiing today. It's dumping snow outside up in Idaho, 423 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: so I want to feel as good as I possibly 424 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: can trying to keep up with my kids on the 425 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: ski slope. So, um, you know, it's it's something I 426 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: use on a on a daily basis. It's something that 427 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 1: you know, I send to my folks. My parents use 428 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: they're they're in their seventies. Um, It's something that's really 429 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: helped me keep up with my kids and enjoy life 430 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: the way I want to. In football retirement, What did 431 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: you make Aaron Rodgers comment after the loss to Tampa 432 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Bay on Sunday. You know, Aaron's Aaron's dramatic. And you know, 433 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: as much as he doesn't want to be dramatic, I 434 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: think sometimes he can't help it. Um. You know, losing 435 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: in an NFC championship game. I've been there, I've done that. 436 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: It's it's so hard to swallow quickly. It's something that 437 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: takes time to let those heels, you know, those wounds heal. 438 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: And you've got to realize I mean that you go 439 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: an interview a guy after he got done playing a 440 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: season that he started training for the previous February, almost 441 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: a year in advance, and was so focused on this 442 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: is the year. This is it. They win their division, 443 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: they have a home, they have the home championship game 444 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: in their backyard. This is their year. And then boom, 445 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: it's over and everybody goes their separate ways and the 446 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: team is completely different than next year. And you know it, 447 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: everybody in the locker room knows it. Some coaches are 448 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: gonna get fired, maybe players contracts aren't going to get renewed. 449 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: And it's an easy moment to be dramatic. And as 450 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: we all know, we've heard, we've heard Aaron over the years, 451 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: he gets very dramatic in some times in some instances, 452 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: and I just think it was the culmination of a 453 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: season ending. It didn't end the way he wanted. Every 454 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: quarterback wants to go for it and not kick a 455 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: field goal in that in that instance, and it's just, 456 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: you know, it's it builds up and I do, and 457 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: sometimes you just can't say the right pr thing. Sometimes 458 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: you can't just put it to bed and say, hey, 459 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't win the game. I got to 460 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: play better. You know, that's the way you want to, 461 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, you want to portray the end of a season. Unfortunately, 462 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: he didn't portray it that way, and now he's got 463 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: to deal with it for the next probably year, until 464 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: the next season starts. Yeah, but you draft Jordan Love 465 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: and it's almost like it hit it hit Rogers on Sunday. 466 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: You know, we drafted Jordan Love. We didn't we didn't 467 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: draft a tight end, we didn't draft a wide receiver, 468 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: we didn't draft a shutdown corner. We drafted my successor. 469 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: And it's almost like he went, yeah, I don't I 470 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen here, and I I mean, 471 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: maybe I'm reading into it way too much. But it's 472 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: almost like it hit Packer fans as well. BOYD have 473 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: been nice if we use that draft pick on a 474 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: tight end, no wide receiver, a shutdown corner there maybe 475 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: that factored in. I don't know. Yeah, that's that's Aaron's sincement. 476 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: That's the you know, the hidden agenda behind what he said. 477 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: Aaron's not going anywhere. The Packers aren't trading Aaron. Aaron's 478 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: the best player in the league, maybe the top two 479 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: or three players in the league. He will be a 480 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: Packer next year. He's pissed they did. They used a 481 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: first round pick on a guy that was holding the 482 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: clipboard behind him. He needed somebody in the huddle with him. 483 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: So I understand his frustration, you know, I wish he 484 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: would who would have phrased some of his comments postgame 485 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: a little bit differently. But there's a lot of built 486 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: up in that. Like I said, I mean, that's an 487 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: entire year's work that just ends instantly, And maybe that 488 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: was kind of chipping away at him in the back 489 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: of his head that you know, their first round pick 490 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: is standing next to him because he's watching the defense, 491 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, and then he drops out on the field, 492 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: and he needs weapons. He needs more than just you know, Davante. 493 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: He needs more guys, and I'm sure that is something 494 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: that's been shipping away at him and so I think 495 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: that's why that kind of came out that way. And 496 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: like I said, now, Aaron's got to continuously answer questions 497 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: all offseason and in the next training camp about it. 498 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: The product is CB the brand is Level Select and 499 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: its level ce Immune Support CBD oil drops to help 500 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: people stay at the top of their game and can 501 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: help somebody is old and decrepit his carson go out 502 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: on the ski slopes there in Idaho? Are you any 503 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: good as the skier? Not comparatively speaking here, But I'm 504 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: still faster than my kids, and that's all that matters. 505 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: Can you still outthrow them? Can you throw the ball 506 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: farther than them? Yeah? But I mean my oldest boys twelve, 507 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: So I think I have I've got another calendar year. 508 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: He can talk at about forty or fifty right now. 509 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: And as he's going up, I'm slowly going down. So 510 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: I gotta take advantage of it while I got it. 511 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: Is he a quarterback? Is he is? He wants to 512 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: play quarterback? He's my brother's got an online coaching academy 513 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: called QB Summit that he's on every night. He's doing drills. 514 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: We've got you know, seven feet of snow in our 515 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: yard here, so he's in the garage doing footwork drills. 516 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: I'm throwing bags at him. He's working, you know, stepping 517 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: up in the pocket avoiding bags. So yeah, we're training, 518 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: and you know, I think he's got a pretty bright future. 519 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: We'll see. Has USC offered him a scholarship not yet 520 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: next year, you think so. His film here in Idaho 521 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: is going to be pretty good because the competition level 522 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: isn't quite that of southern California. Yeah, so he's gonna 523 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: have good film. We'll see. Great to talk to you, Bun, 524 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: and glad you're well. Thank you. That's Carson Palmer joining 525 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: us on the program. Be sure to catch the live 526 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: edition of The Dan Patrick Show week days at nine 527 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and 528 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio WAP. It's a tradition unlike any other. 529 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: It feels like every year, at this time, after the 530 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: voting for the Baseball Hall of Fame, we have Bob 531 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: constas Onto somehow come up with answers for Major League 532 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: Baseball and the Baseball Writers of America. Bob, good morning, 533 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: How are you hello, Dan? How are you doing? It 534 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: feels like this is tradition where I go, let's get 535 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: Bob on and he can explain what happened or what 536 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: didn't happen. You're a voice of reason here. What happened yesterday, Well, 537 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: what happened is that Kurt Schilling appears to have talked 538 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: and tweeted his way out of the Hall of Fame, 539 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: no matter how out of bounds. A lot of his 540 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: proclamations have been. And understand Joel Sherman of the New 541 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: York Post, one of the best baseball reporters, said this 542 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: yesterday on the MLB and Network. Remember he got more 543 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: than seventy percent of the vote. And I have a 544 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: very very large percentage of the players past and present 545 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: in the Baseball Hall of Fame a relatively conservative politically. 546 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: This isn't a matter of Republican Democrat, conservative liberal. And 547 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 1: I say this as somebody who through the years has 548 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: had a good relationship with Kurt Schilling, going all the 549 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: way back to when he was with the Phillies. But 550 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: a lot of what he has said and tweeted over 551 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: the last few years is just completely out of ounds, 552 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: including supporting the insurrection at the Capitol and things he 553 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: has said about writers as a group, not specific individuals. 554 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: So without that he'd be over the line. Now, we 555 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: might have expected Clemens and Bonds, who made a bit 556 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: of a move up to sixty percent or so a 557 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: year ago, to intra least a little bit closer, and 558 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: they barely moved at all. Part of the reason could be, 559 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: and I'm just guessing here, Dan, it's this, assuming they're 560 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: able to have a ceremony fingers crossed this July in Cooperstown. 561 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: Some voters may have said, look, these three, these specific three, 562 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: call him the rogues gallery of the Hall of Fame, 563 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: shilling Clemens, Bonds. They could be a class of their 564 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: own next year. But why should there be any discordant 565 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: notes surrounding Derek Jeter, especially universally popular bus Ted Simmons 566 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: and Larry Walker and whoever represents Marvin Miller next year? 567 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: The two by statistics certain Hall of Famers who come 568 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: on the ballot for the first time are a Rod 569 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: and Big Poppy. Now I think David Ortiz will get 570 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: a higher percentage of the vote. But whatever width of 571 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: steroids is attached to Big Poppy, who's very popular and 572 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: was a great, great hitter, that may keep him out 573 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: as a first ballot guy. And it's going to take 574 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: gay Rod Awhile if ever, and the Scott Rowlands of 575 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: the world who are up around fifty percent, Todd Helton's 576 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: who've made a move Sheffield moved up. None of those 577 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: people loom for it. Next year Omarvis SkELL was on 578 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: his way up until the allegations of domestic abuse halted him. 579 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: But he was only in his third or fourth year, 580 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: so there's time for him to be rehabilitated, so to speak. 581 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: So as you look at it, it's possible that if 582 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: someone's going to vote for Shilling Bonds or Clements, someone 583 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: who's been a holdout, perhaps their initial reasons were just 584 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: let them twist in the wind. My semi protest will be, 585 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: he says this voter, this imaginary voter, My semi protest 586 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: will be that I make them wait until the last minute. 587 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: I'll vote for them in year ten. Well, it turns 588 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: out that year ten stets up that it could very 589 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: well be those three people on the stage, Clemens, Bonds, Shilling, 590 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: if enough voters come around to say, Okay, the coast 591 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: is clear in this situation, I can see it. It 592 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: doesn't rain on anybody else's parade. I can see it 593 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: next year. I'm not saying that will happen, but I 594 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't be at all surprised if the three of them 595 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: move up closer to seventy five percent, if not over 596 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: it in their How do you think the Baseball Writers 597 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: would have reacted or would react if Shilling was already 598 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame and he had these tweets, 599 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: he had these comments, he had this stance, Well, there'd 600 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: be all kinds of articles written about it, condemning it, 601 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: but I doubt that he'd be removed. The Baseball Writers 602 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: might be able to make a statement, but it would 603 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: be up to the Board of Directors of the Hall 604 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: of Fame to remove him or anybody else. And you'd 605 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: have to begin thinking about, boy, if we pull on 606 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: that thread, does the entire garment unwind? These are the 607 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: only sorts of offenses that people might find objectionable. We're 608 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: going to go back over the personal history to the 609 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: extent that we know it of everybody who's in the 610 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And by the way, although it's apples 611 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: and oranges a little bit, O. J. Simpson's bust is 612 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: still in Canton. Yeah, I just wonder that like Shilling 613 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: has no crimes against baseball, and that's right, that's true. 614 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: So just trying to sort this out. Bonds has crimes 615 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: against baseball, A Rod does, Pete Rose does. I'm just 616 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: trying to sort this out and wonder what goes into 617 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: the process here, Bob, because I may not like what 618 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: Kurt tweets, but I could look at him as a 619 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Famer. I didn't question his character, charitable 620 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: contributions when he played when he played, And I don't 621 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 1: know if it's just I should Can I separate and 622 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: just look at that? Is that? Where am I being 623 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: totally naive here? No, I don't think you're being naive. 624 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: I've said it this for years now. He kind of 625 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: stepped up some of his tweets in the past year 626 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: to his detriment when it comes to the Hall of Fame, 627 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: But he was out there for the last few years. 628 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: And I always said that if I was a voter, 629 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: and as you know, it's only baseball writers who have 630 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: a vote, I always would have voted for Kurtchill, and 631 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: I would have voted for him on a first ballot. 632 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: The best strikeout to walk ratio of any pitcher since 633 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: nineteen hundred, remarkable postseason record. In addition to eleven and two, 634 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: he pitched in five elimination games in October. His record 635 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: was four and oh and the other one in which 636 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: he had a no decisions, his team also won the game, 637 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: and as LA in those five games was one point 638 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: three seven plus. It's a Hall of fame. It's not 639 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: just statistics. He's part of baseball lore, the Bloody Stock Game, 640 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: the Red Sox Yankee rivalry, all that stuff. So I 641 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: think he's a Hall of Famer and I would like 642 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: to see him elected. But someone's going to have to 643 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: put an arm around his shoulder if he is elected, 644 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: and say, look, Kurt, this acceptance speech has to be 645 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 1: one hund about baseball and baseball only. We don't care 646 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: if you talk about the Bloody Sock for fifteen minutes, 647 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: but we don't want you talking about Donald Trump for 648 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds. The Bonds and Clemens dilemma that comes up 649 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: every year here, do you think that their fate will 650 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: be better resting in the hands of the Veterans Committee, 651 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily, you know, depends upon the composition of the 652 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: particular committee. If not all the same, they break it 653 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: up into eras, and depending upon the composition of a 654 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: sixteen person panel, some of those people may feel particularly 655 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: negatively toward it. You know. Joe Morgan, for example, the 656 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: late great Joe Morgan, who was on the board's Directors, 657 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: the Hall of Famous Board of Directors, he was always 658 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: adamant about no deroy guys in the Hall of Fame. 659 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's universal, but there's certainly a 660 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,239 Speaker 1: strain of thinking in that way. So I don't think 661 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: the Veterans Committee necessarily gives Bonds and Clements a better 662 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: shot at it. Yeah, I'm just trying to And I 663 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: don't know if Shilling will be better suited for the 664 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: Veterans Committee, like I think he thinks. So would you 665 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: say Shilling has a better chance with the Veterans Committee 666 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: than Bonds and Clements? Do? I think? So? It's Shillings 667 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: feeling that he was respected by those he played with 668 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: and against, and that's certainly true with very very few exceptions. 669 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: You know, he specifically specifically took out after writers. I 670 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: may not have the exact phrasing correct, but there was 671 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 1: a cartoon that he put out on Facebook a couple 672 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: of years ago, whatever it was, and it was journalist 673 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: Rope Tree. Some assembly required. Yeah, even if he says 674 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: that was tongue in cheek, come on, So I think 675 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: some people may have taken that personally, which would be understandable. 676 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: A Rod testing positive twice, So there's no rumor innuendo here, 677 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: like he's had a great five years since he retired. 678 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: By the way, it's like a body switch with him 679 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: and Jeter that all of a sudden, a Rod's doing 680 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: Shark Tank and Sunday Night Baseball, He's at the inauguration. 681 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: Does any of this matter when it comes to voting 682 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: next year? Or these writers going to go, yeah, it's nice, 683 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: but you know, let's go back and look at all 684 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,959 Speaker 1: the things that he did in how he harmed baseball. Well, 685 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: a couple of things there, Dan. There are some writers 686 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: who make a distinction, and it's a valid one between 687 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: players who may have used before baseball codified testing and 688 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: specific penalties and those who went ahead and did it 689 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: even after that all had been codified. And a Rod 690 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: is certainly in that category, and then on top of that, 691 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: he sued baseball and he had to sit out a year. 692 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: So he's got all those demerits. But at the same time, 693 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: look what's happened a few years ago at the World Series. 694 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: I was in the production trailer with a bunch of 695 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: knowledgeable baseball guys and I just happen to say, you know, 696 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: a few years from now, a Rod's que rating is 697 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: going to be higher than Derek Jeters. And they looked 698 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: at me as if I had three heads. But it 699 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: turns out now to be correct, not because Jeters is 700 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: negative necessarily has any more negatives next to it, but 701 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: because a Rod in public perception, you know, being about 702 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: to marry j Low. I don't know if they got 703 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: married or not yet, but they're engaged whatever being with 704 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: j Low and being on TV, and he's a handsome guy. 705 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: When he walks out on Jimmy Fallon or whatever, the 706 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: place goes nuts. So in terms of public perception, he's 707 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: been largely rehabilitated. The writers are a little bit more 708 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: aware than that, but many of them may say to themselves, 709 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: wait a second, where are the guidelines here? Ken Rosenthal, 710 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: very respected writer for the athletic has been saying that recently, 711 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: I don't know how to parse all these things. Pete 712 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: Rose on the outside looking in a Rod not only 713 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: a celebrity, but he's a baseball figure. He's on ESPN. 714 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: You know, what's what's what's the objective standard here, what's 715 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: the consistent standard here? And what are the voters supposed 716 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: to make of it? Maybe maybe the fact that a 717 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: Rod has been brought back into baseball, not just that 718 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: his public persona is better than it once was, but 719 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: that he's part of baseball. Maybe it doesn't work for 720 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: the Commissioner's office, but baseball accepts him as as a 721 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: fixture on something Night Baseball and other baseball events. Maybe 722 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,479 Speaker 1: that makes it easier for some people to say, look, 723 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: I give up. I'm just doing it on what the 724 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: numbers tell me. And you also have this argument which 725 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: I don't buy into, but you'll hear. Hey, this guy 726 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: was a Hall of Famer before he started using. It 727 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. Your career is your career. If 728 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: you used, then you're not a Hall of Famer. In 729 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: my opinion, It's not like man, that guy was Father 730 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: of the Year, well until he had his mistress but 731 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: he was Father of the Year. For like, it doesn't 732 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: work that way, but for a lot of people it does. 733 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: It's obvious that a lot of the voters man make 734 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: a distinction between let's say Bonds and Clemens, who clearly 735 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: would have been first ballot Hall of Famers, inner circle 736 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: Hall of famers if they had retired in the late 737 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties, which is generally when we think, especially at Bonds, 738 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: is pretty good evidence that that's where it began. Otherwise 739 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: Sammy Sosa would be up around sixty percent instead of 740 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: its seventeen percent. He hit over six hundred homers, He's 741 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: better than the sixty homers three times, and he's part 742 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: of baseball history in the late nineties and early two thousands. 743 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: So a huge percent is an electorate does make the 744 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: very distinction that you're saying doesn't matter. Yeah, I know, 745 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: I know I'm in the minority here, but you know, 746 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: it just comes down to it's a museum. It's for 747 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: the fans, and you know, if the fans want people 748 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: and they want to see it in their museum, then great. 749 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: Like I got to the point where I don't enjoy 750 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: baseball because it feels like there's there's always things on 751 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 1: the priphery and never the game. We don't don't celebrate 752 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: the game. And that's the really disheartening thing with all 753 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: of this. We're not even celebrating the Hall of Fame 754 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: or possibility of guys moving up. It's all about the 755 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: guys who don't get in, and that's unfortunate, really is. Yeah, well, 756 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: after after next year, so that kind of moves into 757 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: the shadows once again, no pun intended. Wasn't the book 758 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: called Game of Shadows? And I didn't mean it that way. 759 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: After the final year of eligibility, that takes care of it. 760 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: But you want to talk about celebrating the game, Let's say, 761 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,720 Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, it's possible, if not likely, 762 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: that all three of those guys get in, and that's 763 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: the trio on the stage. No one else is elected. 764 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: You know, Simons, Simmons and Walker and Jeter have had 765 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: their their day this summer, and those are the three. Sure, 766 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: why now you know it's a good story. Why not 767 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: you know, cheery up and tell me a great Hank 768 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: Aaron story before I say goodbye. Well you may know 769 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: this one already, but I just find it especially inspiring. 770 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 1: He loved his dad. He wasn't complaining about his dad. 771 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: It was just the reality of the day. When he 772 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: told his father when he was a little kid, I 773 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: want to grow up to be a pilot, his dad said, 774 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: ain't no colored pilots, and colored was the term used 775 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: not only by many white Americans, but most black Americans then. 776 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: Ain't no colored pilots. When he later said I want 777 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: to play in the major leagues, he said, ain't no 778 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 1: colored ball players. In the late nineteen forties, when Hank 779 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: was fourteen fifteen years old, the Dodgers come barnstorming up 780 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: from Florida after spring training, as teams used to do 781 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: on their way back to Brooklyn, and they stop in 782 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: Mobile to play an exhibition game, and Jackie Robinson addressed 783 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: a small group of black citizen at a storefront it 784 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: was either a drug store or a grocery store on 785 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: the morning of the game, and young Hank Aaron skipped 786 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: school to go to see him speak. He already had 787 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: an idea that this was a guy who would inspire him, 788 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: this was somebody he looked up to. And then later 789 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: when the game was played that afternoon, Hank didn't have 790 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: the money for a ticket. In fact, when he left 791 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 1: home to first play professional baseball, he had two dollars 792 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: in his pocket. That's how impoverished the family was. So 793 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 1: he didn't have money for a ticket, and he climbed 794 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: a tree out beyond the right field fence of the 795 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: ballpark in Bobile, and from there he got his first 796 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: glimpse of Jackie Robinson as a ballplayer. And from there, 797 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: you think about it, he goes on to become in 798 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: many ways. Because of his greatness as a player and 799 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: because of his social significance, he is the most significant 800 00:41:53,719 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: baseball player since Jackie Robinson, his idol and inspiration. In effectively, 801 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: he took the baton from him, and he carried it 802 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: with great dignity and honor. It's forty two after the hour, 803 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: which seems only appropriate with Jackie Robinson. So are you going? 804 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: In two minutes, it'll be forty four. You cheered me up, Bob. 805 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: There you go. You did it. I'll talk to you 806 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: next year at this star. Alright, Well, have a good 807 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Thank you, Bob. It's a Bob cost 808 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: Us is Saturday, MLB Network will re air the Sounds 809 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: of Baseball episodes with Vince Scali, Al Michael's and Tony 810 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: Kubec that starts at two Eastern, hosted by Bob and 811 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: Tom Berducci. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 812 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 813 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: until noon Eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 814 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 815 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app