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Speaker 2: It's a wild, wild year in the NFL and we're

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Speaker 2: reaching this point in the season and we're still trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out who's great and who's not. Who we

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Speaker 2: can actually manco And you know, there's there's this weird

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Speaker 2: line between what we consider great and he's Buck Rising.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Fitz on Fox Sports Radio, filling in on

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Speaker 2: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. We were just

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Speaker 2: talking about the fact that nobody's paying attention to the Jags.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that right now we have a clear

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Speaker 2: great team that's going to win the Super Bowl. Buck,

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure right now that most if you

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Speaker 2: put twenty of us in a room, we would get,

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Speaker 2: you know, more than a few people that could agree

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Speaker 2: on any of who are the best teams in the

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Speaker 2: league this year?

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Speaker 3: And the wild thing is that I don't.

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Speaker 2: Necessarily believe that the NFL has given us this incredible

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Speaker 3: But much like a game, how often do we say, oh,

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Speaker 3: that was a great game. No it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It was a terrible game, but a bad a great ending.

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Speaker 2: Right like when we get drama at the end. We

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Speaker 2: hell of a lot of drama at the end of

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Speaker 2: this NFL season. So I don't know if football is

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the NFL is necessarily having a

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Speaker 2: great year, but I do know that I find it

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Speaker 2: to be incredibly interesting that we're this far into the

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Speaker 2: season and you've made a compelling case for why the

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Speaker 2: Jags are the best team in the AFC, and I

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Speaker 2: can't really tear it apart, and I can't really build

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I guess that was going to be My

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Speaker 4: follow up is what would you consider to be what

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Speaker 4: would make it a great year.

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Speaker 1: For the NFL.

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Speaker 4: And let's discern here between a great year for the

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Speaker 4: league versus a great year for football fans. What I

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Speaker 4: guess is you're are you talking about what's best for

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Speaker 4: the National Football League, Because it seems as we talked

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Speaker 4: about Charles Barkley and his criticism of the NFL taking

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Speaker 4: over Smiths and doing so successful even though the games.

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Speaker 1: Are terrible and all these different things.

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Speaker 4: It feels like the league is in as good of

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Speaker 4: a spot as it's ever been From a fan perspective,

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Speaker 4: Do you think that there is something about this season

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Speaker 4: because of the lack of clear and obvious favorites even

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Speaker 4: in time, because even if you spent most of the

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Speaker 4: season thinking that the Rams are the best team in football,

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Speaker 4: and the Rams probably are the best team in football,

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Speaker 4: You've still got that Seahawks result, both of those Seahawks results,

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Speaker 4: frankly to kind of make you think twice about how

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Speaker 4: matchup of the Seahawks in and overtime, I mean, what

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Speaker 4: So what would make this a better year for the fans?

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Speaker 4: If you were trying to find the best case scenario?

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Speaker 1: I guess I think.

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Speaker 2: It's not necessarily for the fans. I just think that

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Speaker 2: So the question is, okay, that is an ugly football game.

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Speaker 2: That is an ugly, ugly football game, Like we are

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Speaker 3: You cannot argue that that Lions Vikings game.

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Speaker 2: Like if that was the first time you ever watched football, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: I did not go on and say, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I must see more of this, Like as someone that

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Speaker 3: This year, there's just not a lot of great football,

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Speaker 2: That put together moments. There's a lot of inconsistent football.

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Speaker 2: So I think for any product, like when you when

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Speaker 3: Not that old. But like if you go back to

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Speaker 4: Are definitively the oldest person on the show by it

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Speaker 4: considerable bargain.

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Speaker 2: Okay, by age, yes, but but not by maturity at all.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're in a we're in a

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Speaker 2: just an old man.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, I'm forty forty eight. Yeah, yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I know married.

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Speaker 2: I have been called a sneaky vampire by many of

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Speaker 2: my friends, and I'm luk at that.

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Speaker 1: I just said that.

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Speaker 3: Damn you know, I'm doing a little too hard book. No,

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Speaker 3: don't be laughing.

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Speaker 1: That's sixteen years difference between us and them.

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Speaker 3: Gray hairs stay different.

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Speaker 1: What do you take it?

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Speaker 4: Put yourself on camera? Mary, you want to play this game? Okay,

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Speaker 4: play this game.

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Speaker 2: I'm young and sorry, I mean buck, I think we

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Speaker 2: both know that if you and I walked into a

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Speaker 4: I, especially with the Mary's right about the beard. I

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Speaker 4: did not realize that I had gray hairs in my

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Speaker 4: salt and pepper. Salt and pepper, Santa Claus at this point.

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Speaker 3: In time, you know, just.

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Speaker 1: Keep it up.

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Speaker 4: We got we got two hours left, yeah, the four

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Speaker 4: of us this morning, all right, Mary, keep it up.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is by the way, Mary has to

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Speaker 2: deal with this every Saturday on Bucking Fits. Which if

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Speaker 2: you should hang out with us. We'll be back again

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Speaker 2: tomorrow because tomorrow Saturday, I think six to eight pm

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Speaker 2: Eastern time on Fox Sports Radio, that's where you can

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Speaker 2: usually check out Bucking Fits. That's where we are usually

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Speaker 2: hanging out with you, and Mary has to deal with us.

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Speaker 3: During that whole time.

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Speaker 2: By the way, while we're Mary, okay, okay, oh I would,

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to change the subject on that you

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason fitzwor In on two pros and a cup

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Speaker 2: of Joe. I just think, Okay, when we had the

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Speaker 2: of really good football. So you saw teams that weren't

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Speaker 3: Not sustainably good.

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Speaker 2: Like Bill Barnwell's analytics showed why the Commanders were going

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Speaker 2: to take a step back this year because last year

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Speaker 2: probably should have. This year we're watching I think with

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but.

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Speaker 2: Certainly there are more question marks about even the good

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and then being super Bowl caliber and

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Speaker 2: then I watch them against the Raiders look absolutely dreadful. Dreadful, right,

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Speaker 2: some interesting storylines.

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Speaker 3: The football is not as great. I'm not sure anybody cares.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody cares about quality versus drama.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's just a transitional period for the league.

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Speaker 4: So that's an interesting philosophical question, I think, getting deep,

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Speaker 4: getting meta on an early Friday morning. Here, does the

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Speaker 4: NFL Jason Fitz, in your opinion, want a truly great

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Speaker 4: team or truly great teams plural versus the idea that

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Speaker 4: you look at the Eagles at ten and five. Nobody

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Speaker 4: winning twice as many games as they've lost. By the way,

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Speaker 4: They're going to Buffalo this weekend, which is a fascinating game.

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Speaker 4: The Bills are eleven and four, but you have questions

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Speaker 4: I would maintain that in an honest moment, the NFL

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Speaker 1: You don't want somebody.

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Speaker 4: You don't want the Chiefs or the Patriots to rule

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Speaker 4: because that gives people a reason to pay less attention.

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Speaker 1: To your product.

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Speaker 4: You want the re emergence of Chicago and the Patriots

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Speaker 4: You want the Patriots to struggle a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: You want you want the Dolphins of the Jets to

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Speaker 4: would imagine that in a truly honest moment, the NFL

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Speaker 4: would tell you, no, we'd rather just have a bunch

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Speaker 4: the others, but they're not actually that much better.

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Speaker 2: I completely disagree. Actually, So I think the NFL wins

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Speaker 4: What are you freebasing giants and raiders to two and

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Speaker 2: No, but when you're my age, you remember when you

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying the league to answer your question. I

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Speaker 1: Game day's rule.

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Speaker 4: And when you add the hand crafted tang of the

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Speaker 4: Pour our hand crafted recipe on pizza and you'll feel

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Speaker 3: Bucks.

458
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Speaker 2: Dancing around, you're feeling this like this, this was this

459
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Speaker 2: a request? Or like what what?

460
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Speaker 1: What?

461
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 3: What?

462
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 1: What am I?

463
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 3: What do I not know?

464
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 4: No? Just Mary speaking my musical love language. That's all

465
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Speaker 4: it is. Little uh, little little Middle Eastern flare for

466
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 4: you makes me happy.

467
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: It's shoulders moving fitsy.

468
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 3: You know, I can't now in my head.

469
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 2: All I'm going to think is that this is what

470
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 2: you're listening to while you're going back for thirds at

471
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 2: the Golden Corral, Like this is this is what uh

472
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 2: bok buck rising he's got in the pods, like, well,

473
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Speaker 2: he's us.

474
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Speaker 3: This is it's Buck rising at the Golden Coral music.

475
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Speaker 1: No, no, you you you Sadi, you uncultured swine.

476
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Speaker 4: This is this is sitting on the banks of the

477
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Speaker 4: River Nile, smoking a hookah and uh having a little

478
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Speaker 4: bit of a little bit of a little bit of mintee,

479
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Speaker 4: maybe some lamb wrapped in some grape leaves.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't even know, you philistine, You don't know anything.

481
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Speaker 1: You've never been more Caucasian than you are right now.

482
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Speaker 2: Lamb and grape leaves. That there there's no not Look,

483
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Speaker 2: I just you're not No. I grew up of fact

484
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: hit that play the violin like I'm not hit that.

485
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Speaker 2: That's been a revelation since I was a child. I

486
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 2: never expected to be hip. Come on, I mean, I'm

487
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: just imagining buck just for anyone that spends two minutes around. Buck,

488
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 2: Everything you just described sounds beautiful, but it also sounds

489
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 2: like you're laying out a blanket and sitting on the ground,

490
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 2: which is not something you're ever gonna do.

491
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 3: So I'm just I'm just curious.

492
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Speaker 2: Where you, Buck, are just absorbing all of the earth

493
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 2: and the River Nile, and the lamb and the grape

494
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: leaves and the hookah. When you are at your core,

495
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: you are a person that prefers, you know, to go

496
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Speaker 2: to nice establishments and have people whine and dine.

497
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Speaker 4: You listen, redneck, I'm not sitting anywhere on the ground.

498
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Speaker 4: I'm at the Heliopolis Club.

499
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a blankets in what world? Fancy?

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Speaker 4: The only thing, the only thing that your hip too

501
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Speaker 4: is your hip. At forty eight years old, at this

502
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 4: point in time, your actual hip. You need to check yeah,

503
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: I mean check in on that.

504
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Speaker 2: When you start doing hip cars all the time just

505
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: because you need hip flexibility, that's when you know things

506
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Speaker 2: are are going in a certain direction.

507
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Speaker 3: I can't wait till you get there.

508
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Speaker 1: Buck.

509
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Speaker 2: Of course, by the time you get there, I'll be

510
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Speaker 2: in the fifty five and up housing that I cannot

511
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: wait to buy into because like, Hey, they sell you

512
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: cheaper houses once you hit fifty five plus.

513
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Speaker 3: Come on now, I'm waiting for that. Also, everyone, speaking

514
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: of things you're waiting to try, ever wanted to try.

515
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: An Olympic and Paralympic sport? Try fencing, fast, safe and

516
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: easy to start. Find a beginner class near you at

517
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: USA Fencing dot org slash try fencing. That's USA Fencing

518
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: dot org slash try fencing. I would love for Buck

519
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Speaker 2: and I to try fencing just one time.

520
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Speaker 3: Just have you ever fenced? Buck?

521
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Speaker 4: No, I can't say that I have, although I feel

522
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 4: like that is something that would take place at the

523
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Speaker 4: Helopolis Club.

524
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Speaker 3: Not to see that seems like it's not brown. Okay.

525
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to make sense of one of the more

526
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: disappointing teams in the NFL this year, the Baltimore Ravens.

527
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Speaker 3: We know that there is not an easy fix. I

528
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 3: did this about a month ago.

529
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Speaker 2: I watched three Ravens games in their entirety on the

530
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Speaker 2: All twenty two, and I asked myself this question, why

531
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: why are things not good? Because so much of it

532
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 2: has been about injury. So much it has been about

533
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: the defense isn't playing well? They've gotten better over the

534
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 2: last month, but everything looks disjointed, and part of that

535
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 2: disjointed look is that Lamar hasn't necessarily been himself.

536
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Speaker 3: Well we get a what I must stress, the entire.

537
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Speaker 2: Internet is blowing up over what is an opinion piece

538
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: in the Baltimore Sun from someone that covers the Ravens

539
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: talking about the fact that the Ravens and Lamar have

540
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Speaker 2: a very clear path to possibly parting ways this offseason.

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Speaker 2: And it's crazy to me because I hear Ravens fans

542
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Speaker 2: talk about wanting Harball gone, and now I see, Oh,

543
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Speaker 2: is Lamar going to be back.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why we as a society want to

545
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Speaker 3: make patient.

546
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Speaker 2: Patient organizations impatient, because continuity is something that I think

547
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 2: the Ravens have shown as an organization that they value, right.

548
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Speaker 2: I don't buck look at a bad season and suddenly

549
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 2: think and I think, this is like get a problem

550
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 2: for so many sports fans. You look at something bad

551
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: and immediately like fire everybody.

552
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: Some years you just have a bad year.

553
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Speaker 2: And so I find it hard to believe that there's

554
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Speaker 2: a situation where either Harbaugh or Lamar is not a

555
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: Baltimore raven next year. I understand Ravens fans are disappointed

556
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 2: with the outcome, and as you said earlier, the windows

557
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: are short.

558
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Speaker 3: You've been in a window. I understand everybody's frustration.

559
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: I don't think you suddenly just trash everything you've done

560
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 2: because it hasn't met the result that you want.

561
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Speaker 4: This is kind of like what Steelers fans do every year,

562
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Speaker 4: right with Mike Tomlin now in their case. Like it,

563
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Speaker 4: I understand that it's not enough to win more games

564
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Speaker 4: than you lose if you lose all of your playoff

565
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Speaker 4: games or the last playoff game that they won was

566
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Speaker 4: what twenty seventeen?

567
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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

568
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Speaker 4: I believe we've talked about this before so that I

569
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 4: do get from an organization that is overwhelmingly patient, but

570
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Speaker 4: like you just keep banging your head against the ceiling.

571
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Speaker 4: The Ravens, I mean, it's been since tooth and twelve

572
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 4: since they won a Super Bowl and they haven't had

573
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Speaker 4: the postseason success with Lamar that you would like to see.

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Speaker 1: I just won.

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Speaker 4: It is. It's a fan thing, right, It's not an

576
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: organizational thing, because the organizations that behave like fans want

577
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 4: them to behave are the ones that end up being

578
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Speaker 4: the worst. And I'm not saying that at certain points

579
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Speaker 4: that fans don't know what is best for their organization.

580
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying that fans deal in a lot more

581
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Speaker 4: emotion than you would want people running the business of

582
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Speaker 4: your favorite football franchise to operate with. I feel like

583
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Speaker 4: I've made a lot of references to the team that

584
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Speaker 4: I cover on a regular basis, which is the only

585
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Speaker 4: reason to talk about them on national radio. But like

586
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Speaker 4: Amy Adam Strunk is the controlling owner of the Titan,

587
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Speaker 4: she has fired four people, won every off season the

588
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Speaker 4: last couple of years, and the team just gets worse. Right,

589
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Speaker 4: They are worse than when John Robinson was fired for

590
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Speaker 4: trading AJ Brown when they were seven and four at

591
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Speaker 4: the time. They are worse than when Mike Vrabel was

592
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Speaker 4: fired for Again. In her statement, she said, it's not

593
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 4: enough to win more games than you lose, and all

594
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: they do is lose games. Now they are worse even

595
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Speaker 4: than when they fired Ran Carthon as the general manager,

596
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Speaker 4: and then they fired Brian Callahan six games into the

597
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 4: season with the number one overall pick. And honestly, I'll

598
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Speaker 4: tell you I give her a lot of crap here

599
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: locally because I don't think she's done a good job here,

600
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 4: but cam Ward and the Titans looked better since Brian

601
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: Callahan was fired. Sometimes it can be the right decision,

602
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Speaker 4: even though it's rash. It's just when you have such

603
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Speaker 4: a pattern of behavior to look back and say, would

604
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Speaker 4: you just pick a plan and stick with it at

605
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Speaker 4: a certain point in time? You cannot behave so erratically

606
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Speaker 4: and expect the results to be microwaved the way that

607
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 4: I think some fans do, and even some NFL owners

608
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 4: who operate basically like their fan bases do. I think

609
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing, the best thing that you could

610
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 4: say about places like the Steelers and the Ravens, and

611
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 4: I mean even the Giants. Honestly, the Giant's giving day

612
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 4: Ball as much time as he did. I think it

613
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: at least allows for the opportunity that you did just

614
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: have a bad season, and you can get better. And

615
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 4: if you don't improve, okay, the results pile up and

616
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 4: after a period of time you need to move, make

617
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: a move in the right direction, or correct things before

618
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 4: they get appreciably worse.

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Speaker 1: But just the Harball thing, I would get though.

620
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Speaker 4: He's the second longest tenured coach in the NFL, and

621
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Speaker 4: some of the things that are wrong with the Ravens

622
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Speaker 4: beyond Lamar just being hurt. I just don't understand how

623
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Speaker 4: John Harbaugh, it's almost like a little bit of Pete

624
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 4: Carroll w or Pete Carroll was still having enough success,

625
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 4: but you just felt like it wasn't like the message

626
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: wasn't quite hitting as hard as it used to. Those

627
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 4: things can run still, it's a really hard thing to

628
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: maintain that over what.

629
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Speaker 1: Are we coming up on.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's something like seventeen eighteen years for Harball

631
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Speaker 4: in Baltimore. That's a really difficult thing to maintain over

632
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Speaker 4: any period of time.

633
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Speaker 2: But all of that is true when you have gone

634
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: to your to the playoffs before this year six of

635
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: the last seven years, right, That's just that to me

636
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: has such meaning And I understand you know that this

637
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: is where everybody turns around and says, well, that's not enough.

638
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah.

639
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Speaker 2: I think what sometimes happens to successful teams is they

640
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: forget how bad it can be when you hire the

641
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: wrong guy.

642
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: You know.

643
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Speaker 2: And the funny thing is part of the crux of

644
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: the article that was written was that, you know, when

645
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: you talk about the Lamars, standpoint, his cap hit next

646
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: year is seventy four and a half million dollars, and

647
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: after next year there's an out in the contract, so

648
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: for the next two years he has a salary cap

649
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: hit of seventy four point five million dollars.

650
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: They could easily eat And this is the point that

651
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: they're at with Lamar. They either have to.

652
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: Decide that a twenty nine year old Lamar Jackson can't

653
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: believe he's only twenty nine.

654
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: Multi MVP is seventy four and a half million dollars

655
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Speaker 3: this year.

656
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: Next year they're okay that, or they have to decide

657
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: to do something long term and do an extension, which

658
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: will save them a bunch of money and is probably

659
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: the smarter thing to do. Right Like, so it's time

660
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: to extend Lamar Jackson, is the point of it?

661
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 3: Maybe? Or do they trade him.

662
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Speaker 2: I just can't imagine the concept of I'm gonna get

663
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Speaker 2: out of the Lamar Jackson business, or I'm gonna get

664
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Speaker 2: out of the of the Harbor process. I'm gonna get

665
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: out of the Joe Burrow business, like I got it.

666
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: I've said this on y'all who supports Daily I will

667
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: say this here. I think that a team could come

668
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: in and offer the Bengals every single draft pick they

669
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: have for the next ten years, and the Bengals would say,

670
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: go to hell, we're not giving you Joe Burrow, which

671
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: also I think is the right answer. I'd like, I

672
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: think it's absurd. It is absurd, and I'd always been hurt,

673
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: and there's been some issues with Lamar, but like, it

674
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: is absurd to think that a two time MVP that

675
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: was also, by the way, an MVP caliber player last

676
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: last year last year, and it has been hurt this year,

677
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: and you're suddenly going to say, you know what, I'll

678
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: take some first round picks for him, Like, like anybody

679
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: has any idea if Fernando Mendoza can ever turn out

680
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: to be anywhere near what Lamar Jackson is. Like I

681
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: just this whole video game mindset for so many fans

682
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: of Fine, screw it, We'll just get rid of that

683
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: guy and we'll bring in somebody else. I think people

684
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: forget how many bad draft picks there are, though. People

685
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: forget how many bad coaches are hired every year. So

686
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: this is where, yeah, I hear you. You know, when

687
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: you're not getting Super bowls, you say, well, what's the point.

688
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: Everybody tells me, this is loser's mentality. Fine, the point

689
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: is to not be so terrible that you are that

690
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: you have proximity. I don't think that sports are about championships.

691
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: I think they're about proximity to championships. Are you putting

692
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: yourself every single year within shooting range of actually winning

693
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl? And yeah, if you're doing that, I

694
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: don't think you make drastic changes just because you aren't

695
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: happy with the way that it takes so much luck

696
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: to win a championship. If you haven't been lucky, you

697
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: don't get rid of everything and think that that will

698
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: change your luck.

699
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

700
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: I think by that same logic, Like, that's kind of

701
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 4: the that's the kind of premise that we operate with

702
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: when it comes to the NCAA tournament, right, Like, if

703
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: you make an Elite eight, you don't win a championship,

704
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: but you're still considered one of the best teams if

705
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: you made a Final four or an Elite eight. Elite

706
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: eight feels like the cutoff in college basketball where it

707
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 4: feels like you meaningfully accomplished something in a single elimination

708
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: tournament after having a successful regular season to prove that

709
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: you are at least one of the eight best teams

710
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: out of a field of sixty four, one of the

711
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 4: eight best teams in the country. When you're dealing with

712
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 4: what I mean, how many college basketball programs are there,

713
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 4: like one hundred and thirty six at Division one.

714
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: Or something like that, Like, it's a fair amount.

715
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: So if you're one of the best date out of

716
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Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty six or whatever the number is,

717
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: that's still a good thing. You've equipped yourself to be

718
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 4: in the conversation to win a championship. Even if you

719
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: don't get across the finish line, somebody will and somebody

720
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: will be named greater than the rest of them. But

721
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that your season was a wash if

722
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 4: you made it to the Elite eight or the Final four.

723
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Speaker 4: In football, obviously you're dealing with thirty two clubs, so

724
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: it's a little bit of.

725
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: A different conversation.

726
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 4: But like if you're in an AFC championship game, if

727
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: you're a game or an NFC championship game, if you're

728
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 4: a game away from the game, like I still think

729
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 4: that's a reasonable amount of accomplishment, because yes, you are

730
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: going to have to be both good, well three things

731
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: good healthy, and the combination of those two things luck to.

732
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Speaker 1: Be able to actually get this thing done.

733
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Speaker 4: And if you are so far and be above and

734
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Speaker 4: beyond special like in the case of Mahomes or Lamar,

735
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Speaker 4: maybe this is a conversation we could even flesh out

736
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Speaker 4: because we still have what an hour and ten minutes

737
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: left to do throughout the.

738
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Speaker 1: Course of this sport.

739
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: Get an hour left?

740
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying, like, relax, I'm I'm not in

741
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: a rush to go anywhere.

742
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: If Mary keeps playing that sweet, sweet Middle Eastern music,

743
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: I'll sit here all day if you let me. My

744
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 4: point is, though, I think there's a conversation had about

745
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 4: how many quarterbacks basically have the same ceiling versus the

746
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: select few that have the ability to be above and beyond.

747
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 4: Because Finci, at my core, I believe that eighty percent

748
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 4: of quarterbacks basically have the same ceiling, even if they

749
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: don't have the exact same skill set.

750
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Speaker 2: So to that point, he's buck rising up, Jason fitzbucking

751
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: Fits hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio. Don't forget.

752
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what I was gonna tell you not

753
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: to forget. Never mind, you can forget it. Look, I

754
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: tried to go over to the other sheet, and the

755
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: other sheet didn't work. My computers are giving me difficulty. Buck,

756
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: here's the point. Would you like me to read something

757
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Speaker 2: for you now?

758
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, We're good. We're good to the

759
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: point you were just making.

760
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 2: If we applied the NFL logic to the NCAA tournament,

761
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: people be calling for Izzo said, right, because oh man,

762
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: all he ever does is get to Sweet sixteen and

763
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: Elite eight and final fours. Man, if you can't win

764
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: a championship, got a fire of the bum. That's what

765
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 2: we do in the NFL. And you're right, there's less teams.

766
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: But to me, when you start talking about do you

767
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: have I think this is what you have to ask

768
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: yourself organizationally. Do you have a quarterback that can compete

769
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: with the best of the league in the system you're in.

770
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: Do you have the right coach to be able to

771
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: compete on any given sunday in the system that you're in.

772
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: Those are the two things that I think you have

773
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: to sort of figure out. So I look across the

774
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: board and say, Okay, maybe maybe there are questions, Maybe

775
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 2: there are long term questions about some of the guys

776
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: in this process. But I don't fault the Bills or

777
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: the Ravens for the lack of Super Bowls over the

778
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: last several years because they're taking on Mahomes and Andy Reid.

779
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 3: So if you don't have the best coach.

780
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: In the game, the best defensive coordinator in the game,

781
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: and the best quarterback in the game all at the

782
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: same time, you're probably not going to beat the Chiefs

783
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: a lot. Now, this year has been a down year,

784
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: but you still have to ask yourself, do we have

785
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: the guys that can actually beat Mahomes? Like I don't

786
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: think Brock perty is a world beater, but I do

787
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: think that Kyle Shanahan looks around and says, with Brock

788
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: Purty in my system, I believe that we can beat

789
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: Mahomes right like on any given son, I believe we

790
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: can be the best team in the NFL. I believe

791
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: we can beat the Eagles for example from last year.

792
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: If you look at at the it's a very simple

793
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 2: equation for me for Baltimore, Ken Lamar beat Mahomes with

794
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: this team long term.

795
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 3: Yes, this year, no, they.

796
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: Got beat up. Things didn't go well. It was a

797
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 2: little disjointed, It wasn't good enough. Can they beat Mahomes?

798
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 5: Yes?

799
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: Do you make massive sweeping changes when you could beat Mahomes?

800
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 4: Don't?

801
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: I don't think so. So for me, I just don't

802
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: think that there's any real world where these guys aren't back.

803
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: I want to get bucks thoughts on some of this. Plus,

804
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: We've got two matchups this weekend that I'm gonna call

805
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: Buck Rising matchups.

806
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Speaker 3: They might be two of.

807
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Speaker 2: The worst football games you'll ever see in your life, Yeah,

808
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 2: but they're two of the most important.

809
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Speaker 3: We'll tell you about it next. Bucking Fit's taking over

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Speaker 3: two Pros and a Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. It's a Bucking Fits

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Speaker 2: See store for more details. There are two matchups in

824
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Speaker 2: the NFL. Hear me out that right now are trash.

825
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 2: They're the trash use of trash. They are the oscar

826
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: the grouches of the entire football slate. They are trash matchups.

827
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: But how far are we off from the NFL turning

828
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: these trash matchups into massive marketing opportunities. I know it

829
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: sounds weird, but you have the Saints taking on the Titans,

830
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: all right, that's a terrible football game. You also have

831
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 2: the Giants taking on the Raiders. That is right, Giants Raiders,

832
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: a game nobody wants to see. The loser of that

833
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 2: game will have the inside track for the first overall pick.

834
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: In the NFL draft. There are still it gets very complicated.

835
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: The methodology and the strength of schedule is going to

836
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: come into play, all these things, but the loser of

837
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 2: that game has the inside track to the point. Then

838
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: now suddenly, what we've seen is, you know, the Raiders

839
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: put Brock Powers on injury reserve and they're starting safety

840
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: Jeremy Chin on an injury reserve. What do you know

841
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: comes out in the practice report. Max Crosby hasn't practiced

842
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: the last few days. Prom usually he would play in

843
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: these situations.

844
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 3: Who knows.

845
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: The Giants put out their list of inactives because the

846
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: injury expected for this game, and it's basically half their roster.

847
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 2: You've got two teams, like we in a world book

848
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: where everybody screams constantly about tanking in the NBA, You've

849
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: got two teams that are outwardly tanking for the first

850
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: pick in the NFL draft.

851
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 3: And as popular as draft content.

852
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: Has become, I just think it's amazing that not only

853
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: are fans buying in, fans are okay with it, Like

854
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: the same fans that hell about tanking in the NBA

855
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: all good with tanking the these games in the NFL,

856
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: and everybody.

857
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: Believes that it's going to be this great hope that

858
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: gets you to the first overall pick and that's kind

859
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 3: of fixed everything.

860
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: When will the NFL start selling this misery as the

861
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: reason to watch these games?

862
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 4: Ooh, that's an interesting perspective. I just I don't know

863
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 4: that that can ever be a viable marketing plan for them.

864
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 4: Like they can't say the quiet part out loud, can

865
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 4: they in that league more than any other league. I

866
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 4: know the NBA is dealing with a variety of different

867
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 4: legal situations right now that you know, beyond just acknowledging

868
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 4: that tanking would be a thing and actively trying to

869
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 4: find ways to keep teams from tanking. I just fitzy,

870
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 4: I don't ever think that that by definition, I don't

871
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 4: think that tanking is real in the NFL because you

872
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 4: will never get me to believe in a world that

873
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: we have professional football players and coaches who don't care

874
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 4: about the draft picks out there playing football games, that

875
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 4: the people on the field actually involved with the games

876
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 4: are going to give less than full effort.

877
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: We do agree on that.

878
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: I don't believe a player ever tanks. That's why these

879
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: players are left inactive. They know a player will never

880
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: tank during the game.

881
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 4: I agree with you on that, sure, So in these situations,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if there is a huge economy around

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Speaker 4: the NFL offseason, whether it be draft, free agency, coaching carousel,

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Speaker 4: all of those different things, like we've turned it into

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Speaker 4: economy unto itself, into an industry unto itself.

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Speaker 1: Hell I would I would.

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Speaker 4: Argue based on some of the draft stuff I see

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Speaker 4: or some of the popularity of it that some people

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Speaker 4: actually like the off season more than they actually more

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Speaker 4: than they enjoy the actual regular season. I don't think

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Speaker 4: that the NFL can, can, at least outwardly ever, talk

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Speaker 4: about it in the terms that you're talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Even though they understand.

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Speaker 4: There's plenty of executives that understand the popularity that is

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Speaker 4: the personnel acquisition process.

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Speaker 3: You're probably right, and you know yes.

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Speaker 2: I think the draft has become so wildly huge because

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Speaker 2: it sells hope.

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Speaker 3: Every single fan base.

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Speaker 2: Believes that their team just turned the corner, even though

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Speaker 2: the numbers show that your team won't turn a corner,

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Speaker 2: especially if they're picking first. Overall, they're not going to

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Speaker 2: pick a turn a quick corner for sure. I just

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Speaker 2: wonder how far off we are from saying the quiet

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Speaker 2: thing out loud just because the NFL gets in front

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Speaker 2: of everything.

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Speaker 3: So the NFL gets.

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Speaker 2: Away with saying the quiet thing out loud all the

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Speaker 2: time and people buy into it. I am alarmed at

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Speaker 2: how accepting everybody is of the fact that great players

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Speaker 2: is going to be left on the field off the

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Speaker 2: field just for the purpose of tanking. There is one

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Speaker 2: team we haven't talked enough about that could surprise the

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Speaker 2: entire NFL. We'll talk about it next. Two pros and

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Speaker 2: a couple Joe Fox Sports Radio