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Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 2: How's everybody doing on this Monday? Chris Brown, Matti lab

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Speaker 2: with you if you're on One Bills Live and we

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Speaker 2: are rocking and rolling into this week. But it's hard

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Speaker 2: to uh to kind of talk football with Game seven

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Speaker 2: tonight for the NHL Finals Stanley Cup Final. It was

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Speaker 2: interesting they're calling it the Stanley Cup Final. They don't

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Speaker 2: pluralize it anymore. They call it the Stanley Cup Final,

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Speaker 2: which I understand. It's the final series. Maybe that's why

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Speaker 2: they singularize it, if that's even a word interesting, But like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, growing up, it was always like, ah,

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Speaker 2: it's the NBA Finals and it's the Stanley Cup Finals,

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Speaker 2: like there are multiple games.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Maybe we still call it the finals.

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Speaker 2: These are me too, These are these are things that

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Speaker 2: catch my eyes sometimes and I spend way too much

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Speaker 2: time thinking about. But it's been a remarkable turnaround in

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Speaker 2: that series, and that kind of our topic of discussion

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Speaker 2: today will dovetail off of that, and we'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in short order. How did you make out through

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Speaker 2: the heat wave last week?

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Speaker 4: Manny?

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Speaker 2: Did you? I mean, you're survived, You're clearly here. I'm here.

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Speaker 3: I survived it, so I lived. It's interesting because I

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Speaker 3: have lived in several different states. I've lived in Illinois, California, Missouri, Tennessee,

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Speaker 3: New York, and I've experienced those hot high summers in

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Speaker 2: It's right middle of the country gets stupid hot right.

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Speaker 3: Where landlocked in Missouri where I went to missou So

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Speaker 3: we were in Columbia, Missouri, which is kind of in

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Speaker 3: from the Lake of the Ozarks, but it's not like

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Speaker 3: lake or anything like that. So those summers were super hot.

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Speaker 3: In Tennessee. I was in Knoxville, so you're right along

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Speaker 3: the river, but it was still very very warm there

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Speaker 3: during the summers. But somehow, five years into being in

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Speaker 3: hot weather feels like.

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Speaker 2: And it hit me. I was like, it is so hot.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how anybody can do this. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how anybody lives in weather this hot.

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Speaker 2: It is way too hot.

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Speaker 3: How can somebody live in Florida and be outside during

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Speaker 3: the summer. I don't get it. It doesn't make sense

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Speaker 3: to me. And then my husband was like, you have

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Speaker 3: lived in Tennessee and Missouri. You have experience this, you

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Speaker 3: just have forgotten what it feels like.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you believe this, but I am

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Speaker 2: convinced of this just as a physical adaptation. I swear

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Speaker 2: people that you know retire and move south to live

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Speaker 2: in you know, southern cities to enjoy better weather, warmer weather,

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Speaker 2: no winter anymore.

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Speaker 5: So to speak.

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Speaker 2: I'm convinced their blood kind of thins out so they

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Speaker 2: the year. And I am convinced that people like us

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Speaker 2: year are blood thickens up so we don't feel the

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Speaker 2: days to adjust warm. So, because I know when my

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Speaker 2: folks come up here to visit in the wintertime, like

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Speaker 2: So it's just like how I think I got to talk.

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Speaker 2: We got to get a doctor on the show one time,

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Speaker 2: just to confirm whether or not that truly happens. I

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Speaker 2: mean you always here, you know, your grandparents, ah, your

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Speaker 2: sure they've done studies on the Aleutians who live up

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Speaker 2: bodies over the centuries that keep them warm. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it's got to be some kind of physical adaptation that

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Speaker 3: Too hot for me, too hot for you.

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Speaker 2: What kills me is when the humidity gets really high,

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Speaker 2: I don't mind when it's really hot, but if the

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Speaker 2: Like I it's the humidity that crushes me.

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Speaker 3: I do love a warm evening though I don't like

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Speaker 3: my gosh, I could have that every single day. For

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Speaker 3: part of this heat wave, I was back in Chicago

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Speaker 3: visiting my family where I'm from. We went to a

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Speaker 3: Cubs game on Father's Day.

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Speaker 3: We sat in the bleachers. It was ninety five freaking degrees.

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Speaker 3: Right on you for nine innings. It was a close

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Speaker 3: You're not really even hungry. So I had a broad

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Speaker 2: Now do they have do they have summers comparable to

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Speaker 3: They have more ninety degree days there. Yeah, summer is

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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. Yeah, this weather update brought to you

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Speaker 2: by Manny and me there. It's not sponsor. You got it.

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Speaker 2: We just shared. Yeah, because I was I was fine

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Speaker 2: with the heat this week. I mean it got a

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Speaker 3: Also, while we're on the topic of weather and things,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I heard about that swarm.

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Speaker 3: They were everywhere everywhere, and they're in the point where

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Speaker 3: these freaking bugs are starting to die everywhere, so it's

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Speaker 3: it's coming to an end. But every morning you would

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Speaker 3: It's hard to mow your grass because everywhere you walk

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Speaker 3: We have them seven years ago something when I was

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I know birds like eating those things, because

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Speaker 2: I've seen birds like catch those things.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I haven't seen that, right.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, going on Chicago, everybody, Apparently if you were curious, He.

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Speaker 2: a lot, right, Uh, But we got to go around

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Speaker 2: the NFL, which is presented by Kalida Health, the official

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Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: have informed defensive lineman Isaiah Bugs that he's being released

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Speaker 2: a city code infraction after allegedly shoving Tuscaloosa Police Chief

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Speaker 2: he went to the University of Alabama. Maybe he feels

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Speaker 2: like he's got special privileges. But if you're anywhere, not

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Speaker 2: But they don't fool around down there at all. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 2: bumping an officer. Even if you just shove him, whatever

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Speaker 2: rope and say situations like this right, wrong or indifferent.

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Speaker 2: But this guy just three things in two months, like

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Speaker 2: how bored are you?

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Speaker 5: Dude?

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Speaker 2: It's like, come on, you gotta be better than that. Geez.

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Speaker 2: I mean, talk about being busy in all the wrong ways,

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Speaker 2: It's just an unconventional Dallas offseason, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: Two Wow, Khalil Shakir and Dalton Kincaid. And you know,

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Speaker 2: They used it heavy hurt.

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Speaker 3: guess that's how this season starts, just knowing, like you said,

436
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Speaker 3: where that chemistry is at with both of them.

437
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Speaker 2: Bucky Books Bucky Brooks is a big proponent of twelve

438
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: personnel being more prominent across the league this year. When

439
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: you think about teams like the Bills with Kincaid and Knox,

440
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 2: the Raiders who now have Michael Mayer and Brock Bauers,

441
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Speaker 2: there are a handful of teams that have two very

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Speaker 2: good tight ends. So he said this about Kincaid. With

443
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: Buffalo's poise to routinely use twelve personnel, Kinkaid could become

444
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Speaker 2: a household name as a dominant pass catcher over the middle.

445
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Speaker 2: Although the second year pro will share the marquee with

446
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Speaker 2: fellow tight end Dawson Knox, he should thrive as Josh

447
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: Allen attacks defenses with an inside out approach that puts

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Speaker 2: the Bills tight ends in prominent roles. Took a little

449
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Speaker 2: bit to get his footing as a rookie, still finished

450
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Speaker 2: the season with seventy three for six seventy three and

451
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Speaker 2: two touchdowns. I expect a big jump in production. That's fall.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I won't be shocked if he ends up

453
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Speaker 2: leading all tight ends in receptions and yards in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Now, he was eighth as a rookie in

455
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Speaker 2: receptions among tight ends. But that's pretty lofty, and maybe

456
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Speaker 2: he feels that way because there isn't an alpha dog

457
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Speaker 2: number one receiver right now. Maybe one emerges as the

458
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Speaker 2: season wears on, but absent of it, Kincaid could be

459
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Speaker 2: your number one. I mean, I don't think that's unreasonable

460
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Speaker 2: to contemplate. But still talking about a heck of a

461
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Speaker 2: pool of tight end talent that he would be competing against,

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Speaker 2: to say he's gonna lead him in catches and receiving

463
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Speaker 2: yards possibly, I mean Sam Laporta, who's in his.

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Speaker 3: Own draft class, are neck and neck with.

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Speaker 2: Each Yeah, I mean, Kelsey's still very productive in Kansas City.

466
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Speaker 2: So I mean that that is really lofty praise. I

467
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: got a little excited and I stopped myself and I

468
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Speaker 2: was like, well, wait a second, there's some dang good

469
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Speaker 2: tight ends in this league. Yeah, but I'm not saying

470
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Speaker 2: he can't do it, but I think a lot has

471
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Speaker 2: to go right for him and potentially wrong for some

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Speaker 2: other tight ends for that to come, like in both

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Speaker 2: categories catches and like, I don't know, that's all that

474
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Speaker 2: seems like you're giving him a lot to accomplish in

475
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Speaker 2: year two. I mean, it'd be great if it happens,

476
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Speaker 2: but I don't know. It seemed like pretty lofty to me.

477
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Speaker 2: But hey, if he can go get it, go get it, man.

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Speaker 3: We talk about the trust that Josh Allen has with

479
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Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir. In the catch rate percentage, it was eighty

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Speaker 3: six point seven was the number.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 3: Dal Kinkaid finished with the third highest catch rate among

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Speaker 3: tight ends with eighty point two percent, So there's some

484
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Speaker 3: trust there too, between tight end and quarterback and Josh

485
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Speaker 3: Allen and Dalt Kinkaid. Another thing, it makes sense that

486
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Speaker 3: Khalul Shakir is going to have the trust of Josh

487
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Speaker 3: Allen entering the twenty twenty four season. It also makes

488
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Speaker 3: a lot of sense if you say, Dunk Kinkaid is

489
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Speaker 3: going to get a lot of looks this year too,

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Speaker 3: just based on what he did last season and the

491
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Speaker 3: wrinkle he adds to that offense. It's hard to cover

492
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Speaker 3: a tight end in the NFL. It's hard to cover

493
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Speaker 3: an elite tight end in the NFL. I believe he's

494
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Speaker 3: he's a player who could turn into that. I would

495
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Speaker 3: love to see that touchdown number go up this season.

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Speaker 2: I think it will. They're gonna have a ton of

497
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Speaker 2: red zone options now with size, they're big across the board.

498
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe maybe it is very democratic and

499
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Speaker 2: it does get spread out a little bit, but he's

500
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: definitely gonna have more than two as long as he

501
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: stays healthy in play seventeen games. The only other AFC

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Speaker 2: East players on Bucky Brooks All Breakout Team squad were

503
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Speaker 2: Miami's Devon a Chan who's a dangerous player, and Jets

504
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Speaker 2: center Joe Tipman, who took over late in the year

505
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: at center, but was doing it with Zach Wilson. His

506
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: season should be considerably better with Aaron Rodgers behind him

507
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Speaker 2: at quarterback. So that's around the NFL. Brought to you

508
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Speaker 2: by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: Topic of discussion for you today deals with Game seven

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00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 2: of the NHL Final Tonight. Can you think of a

511
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: bigger collapse or a bigger comeback in sports than what

512
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: we might witness tonight. For those that have been living

513
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: under a rock, Panthers won the first three games of

514
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: the series, went up three to zero, and it was

515
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: considered a done deal. Lucille dead and buried are the Oilers,

516
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: but they have stormed back to win three in a

517
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: row themselves to force a Game seven, which is in

518
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: Florida tonight. If the Panthers blow this thing tonight, there

519
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 2: are many who consider it the will consider it the

520
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: biggest collapse in sports history. One of the main reasons

521
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: why is it's only happened once in the last eighty

522
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: years in hockey, and that was the nineteen forty two

523
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: Maple Leafs who came back from three games down to

524
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: beat the Red Wings in nineteen forty two. And we've

525
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: got some funny, a funny story to tell you about

526
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: that in a little bit. But we're up against the

527
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: break right now, so you let us know, aight, oh

528
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: three five point fifty one eight eight eight, five point

529
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Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty with Game seven in the Stanley

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Speaker 2: Cup Final tonight, can you think of a bigger collapse

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Speaker 2: or a bigger comeback in sports. I know there's one

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00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: that's going to be popular among Bills fans that will

533
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: be raised and I think it's legitimate, but feel free

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00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: to chime in with that. If you can't give us

535
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: a call, you can hit us up on the tweet

536
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: sheet as well. At One Bills Live. Maddie and I

537
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 2: taking your phone calls when we return here on One

538
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: Back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown Matty glab

540
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Speaker 2: with you and asking you at eight oh three, oh

541
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Speaker 2: five fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: with Game seven in the Stanley Cup Final tonight, can

543
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: you think of a bigger collapse or a bigger comeback

544
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 2: in sports if the Oilers win and the Panthers lose.

545
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: Doesn't have to just be hockey. We're just looking for

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00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: anything in the sports world that you think you know

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00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: comes to mind as a colossal collapse or an unbelievable comeback.

548
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: We know there'd be a popular one here in Buffalo,

549
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: but we'll let you decide what should be at the

550
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: top of that list or what would trump a Panthers

551
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: collapse tonight or an oiler's comeback, whichever way you want

552
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: to look at it. A three five point fifty one

553
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Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty the number

554
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Speaker 2: to get on board. We do have open lines for you,

555
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: but we lead off today with Kevin in Hamburg. What

556
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: do you got for us? Kevin?

557
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, how you doing my call?

558
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: Sure thing?

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00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 7: I got one. I don't know think it's as big

560
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 7: as this, but it was in two thousand. You had

561
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 7: to remind me you might go over and so give

562
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 7: me hints to it. Twenty ten, it was the finals,

563
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 7: but not the Stanley Cup part. The Bruins were down

564
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 7: to the up over the Flyers street enough and it

565
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 7: was called Jerunes like second year, and they fell totally

566
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 7: flat and the Fighters won four in a row. They

567
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Speaker 7: lost to Stanley Cup to someone I can't remember who.

568
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 7: I think it was the Hurricanes or someone, but they

569
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Speaker 7: totally broke Boston's heart and it was wonderful to see

570
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 7: the Chowderheads cry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That was in round two of twenty ten. Okay, yeah,

572
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: and Game four even went into overtime. So they're up

573
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: three to zero and it goes to overtime in Game

574
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Speaker 2: four against the Flyers in twenty ten and they lose

575
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Speaker 2: that game and then lose the series ultimately. Yeah, that

576
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: was a bad one, but yeah it doesn't It doesn't

577
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Speaker 2: rise to the level of the finals though, right, huh,

578
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: it doesn't rise to the level of Stanley Cup final.

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00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 7: But it was so nice to see him collapse. It

580
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 7: was the Boston our rival, one of my rival I

581
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 7: get that. But who I can't remember who knocked the

582
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 7: fire who beat the Flyers? I can't remember that in

583
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 7: the Stanley Cup.

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00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I have that here. I'm

585
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: looking at this really quick Flyers. Nope, it wasn't the Devils.

586
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'll have to look it up for you, Kevin,

587
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: but appreciate you chiming in on that. Yeah. I knew

588
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: that one was going to come up, because that was

589
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: a recent series where a team was up three to

590
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: zero and the best of seven and blew it.

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00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: Bruins losing the Flyers black Hawks.

592
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so Flyers.

593
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: Black during the black Hawks.

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00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, when they won three Cups in

595
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: like four or five years.

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00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 8: Uh.

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00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: We go back to the phones and to Paul out

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00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: in Arizona. What do you got for us.

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Speaker 4: Paul, Hi, Maddie, Hi, Chris, how you doing doing well?

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Speaker 4: Thanks for taking my call. I know you guys are

601
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: stuffering through some tough heat there and it's it's bad.

602
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: But last week we had consecutive days of one nineteen

603
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Speaker 4: and one twenty one on my back board.

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00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't speak that language. That's that's a little too.

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00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: We're babies.

606
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: Even if it's dry, I don't. I'm sorry. I can't

607
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: do that.

608
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 4: And you don't need a doctor. I can vouch for

609
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: blood finning because last fall, my son and I flew

610
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: in for the Jets game and uh, it was sixty

611
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Speaker 4: two degrees on Thursday, and by game time on Sunday,

612
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Speaker 4: I was freezing my feet where I had double stock.

613
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: I didn't get I didn't get warm for two days.

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00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's different.

615
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 4: You got that blood dusting out.

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00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you have a you can you think of

617
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: a bigger comeback or a bigger collapse in than what

618
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Speaker 2: we might witness tonight.

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Speaker 4: The Penguins and the Islanders. When I was in college

620
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Speaker 4: back in the mid seventies, that was that was probably

621
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Speaker 4: the biggest one, and you know, and the biggest comeback

622
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: for the Bills was the Houston oiler game.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, thirty two point deficit. Yeah, it's uh yeah,

624
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Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Paul, thanks for chiming in, and uh yeah,

625
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: layer up the next time you're up here, because if

626
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: you're living in one, nineteen fifty probably feels like ten.

627
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: Man omen.

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00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm telling you it's a thing. But uh yeah,

629
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Speaker 2: the Islanders one. I didn't witness that, but growing up

630
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: down there, I heard a lot about it. The Islanders

631
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: were like an expansion team in nineteen seventy two and

632
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Speaker 2: I think it was seventy three or seventy four they

633
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: played the Penguins. They're down three to zero in the series,

634
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: come back to win the series four to three. But

635
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: I think that was an early round series as well,

636
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: first or second round. I mean, you're in the finals.

637
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: This is like this is it?

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00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 6: I know and.

639
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: You don't. And the other thing that is a little

640
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: disturbing for the Panthers point of view is the goal

641
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: differential in the last three games. Is the worst goal

642
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: differential in a finals? Yeah, in the final, in the

643
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: NHL Finals, I think. Ever, if I'm right about that,

644
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 2: If not ever, maybe in a very very very very

645
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: long time. I did take a look because you know,

646
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: nineteen forty two Maple Leafs, so the last team to

647
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 2: come back from three to zero down in the finals

648
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: and win. That was the first year the Original Six existed,

649
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: because I think some I think the New York Americans

650
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: folded that year, so it went down to six teams.

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00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: So that was the first year of the quote unquote

652
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Speaker 2: Original Six. But the Red Wings at home in nineteen

653
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: forty two chance to sweep the Maple Leafs, and the

654
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: maple Leafs rally for a four to three winning game four.

655
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: They were two goals just two minutes apart in the

656
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: third period. But the game, this is what I did

657
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: not know. The game nearly ended in a riot after

658
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: Detroit's Eddie Wares drew a misconduct penalty and refused to

659
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: leave the ice. So listen to what the ref does

660
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: when the player refuses to leave the ice, so game misconduct,

661
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 2: he's tossed out of the game. He refuses to leave

662
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: the ice. Referee Mel Harwood responds by dropping the pocket

663
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: center ice for a face off and then calls a

664
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: penalty on the Red Wings for too many men on

665
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: the ice. So at this point, Wings head coach Jack Adams,

666
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: for whom the Coach of the Year award is named after,

667
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: attacked Harwood after the final horn of the game, punched

668
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: him in the face. So Harwood and NHL president Frank

669
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: Calder needed police escorts to get out of Detroit to

670
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: Olympia Stadium as debris rained down on them. What was

671
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: suspended for the rest of the series. The Maple Leafs

672
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: go on to win the last three games and pull

673
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: off the reverse sweep in the Cup finals.

674
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: Man, I didn't know any of that.

675
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: I didn't either.

676
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: That's insane.

677
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: The guy refuses to leave the ice. I love what

678
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: the ref did. Oh you're not leaving? Okay, here we go,

679
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: face off that too many men on the ice have

680
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: fun in the box. Then I it's like, I love

681
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: that move. That is a power move. Uh huh, that

682
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,959
Speaker 2: was fantastic the police escort. Yeah, I think you know why.

683
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: I think we have a better sense as to why

684
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: the Red Wings collapsed. I mean, their head coach got

685
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: tossed for the rest of the series, punched a ref

686
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: in the face talking about losing it. They lost it right.

687
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: There, No composure.

688
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones. At eight oh three,

689
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: five point fifty one, eight, eight, eight, five point fifty two,

690
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: five point fifty and we go to Joe in Buffalo next.

691
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 2: What do you got first, Joe?

692
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 9: It was painful, the two thousand and four ALCS.

693
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: I was hoping this wouldn't come up as a Yankees fan.

694
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 9: Myself a Yankees fan, I still remember it. Yeah, they

695
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 9: And what was ironic was the game three. I think

696
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 9: they won, like sixteen to eight or something. Yeah, yeah,

697
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 9: and then three and then they went back to Boston,

698
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 9: I think, and the current manager of the Dodgers stole

699
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 9: second and then he stole third.

700
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave Roberts.

701
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 9: Dave Roberts, thank you. And I still remember painfully the

702
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 9: New York Post showing Babe Ruth on the cover on

703
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 9: the front page of the paper saying play me in

704
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 9: Game seven.

705
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: That sounds like a New York Post backpage for sure.

706
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

707
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 2: That one was a tough one to swallow, not only

708
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: because of the collapse, but because it was the Red Sox,

709
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: the most hated rival for Yankees fans. I've said that

710
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: a lot. I mean, I reveled in the eighty six

711
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: World Series and my team wasn't even in it. The

712
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: two teams I despised the most, the Red Sox and

713
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: the Mets. I had to root for the Mets. It's

714
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: the only time I've ever rooted for the Mets because

715
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: they were playing the Red Sox. I was like, I

716
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: can deal with the Mets winning the World Series. Can

717
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: not deal with the Red Sox winning the World Series.

718
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 2: And that ended in spectacularly horrific fashion for the Red Sox,

719
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: as we know, the Buckner play and that whole thing

720
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: in Game six and you know, and then Game seven

721
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: went the same way. But yeah, two thousand and four

722
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: was definitely payback because that was painful. But here's the

723
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: thing that's different I think between that. First of all,

724
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: it's a championship series. It's not the World Series that's

725
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 2: number one, but number two. The Yankees have been the

726
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: most successful franchise in baseball history when it comes to

727
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: winning championship, and so I think the sting of it

728
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: will not be as severe as it might be for

729
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: Panthers fans. Yeah, because they haven't won one yet. Do

730
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Does that make sense?

731
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 3: Yes, the story of the two teams is very different.

732
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: I mean, the Panthers were this team that players would

733
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: go to at the end of their careers and it

734
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 3: was a nice place to finish because there wasn't too

735
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: much pressure on them. And then quickly they became a

736
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: team that was very competitive with a lot of new people.

737
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: They had some big trades, they picked up some different

738
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: players who ended up playing big roles this season on

739
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: the team. And then you look at the Oilers and

740
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: it's the team who's been there, done that, won it

741
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: a few times in a short period of time too.

742
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: And so you have these two teams who have very

743
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: different backgrounds as of late, and so Oilers fans, there's

744
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 3: the expectation there that let's win another one. We're the

745
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: best team. We believe we are because we's that's what

746
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: we're known for.

747
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: We're known for winning.

748
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: And then on the Panthers side, you got these fans

749
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: that are eager to win one and are riding the

750
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: high of what their team has done this past season

751
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: and last season as well.

752
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, let's uh. I wasn't going to throw out

753
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: the fact that you know, as a Cubs fan that

754
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: can resonate too, but at least but even then, I

755
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: mean not that you or your parents or your grandparents

756
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 2: would remember it. But what was it nineteen oh eight

757
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: before twenty sixteen, So all those disappointments just sting a

758
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: little bit more when it's been so long, but when

759
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: you haven't even won one ever, like, that's got to

760
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: be even worse, I think.

761
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: And when you're on the cusp of doing it. Oh,

762
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 3: I remember, I remember twenty sixteen and what the Cubs

763
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: went through, and then you were sweating that out too,

764
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: though yeah it got close, it got really close, and

765
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: just the oh that you feel, oh my.

766
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: Gosh, a relief almost.

767
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: It was so cool to witness. And I feel for

768
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: Panthers fans because I understand what that feels like and

769
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: for your team to win it, or to have the

770
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: potential to win it. Since Game seven is tonight, I mean,

771
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: you're not getting off of that couch, You're not leaving

772
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 3: your seat, you're not leaving that bar, you're not leaving

773
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: wherever you are. Your eyes are going to be glued

774
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: to the TV. And if they do win, man, the

775
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: celebration that's going to follow is something to remember.

776
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: A three five point fifty one eight eight eight five

777
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: fifty two, five point fifty with Game seven in the

778
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Final tonight, can you think of a bigger

779
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: collapse or a bigger comeback in sports if the Oilers

780
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: win and the Panthers blow it tonight, got open lines

781
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: for you at aight oh three oh five fifty will

782
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: lead off with Bob and Lancaster when we return here

783
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health. It's

784
00:41:54,200 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on One Bill's Live.

785
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: Chris Brown METI lab with you and talking about a

786
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: bigger comeback or a bigger collapse than the one we

787
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: may all witness tonight in Game seven of the NHL

788
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: Final between the Panthers and the Oilers. Oilers of stormback

789
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: from a three games to none deficit to force a

790
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 2: Game seven. If they pull this thing off tonight, can

791
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: you think of a bigger comeback in sports or a

792
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: bigger collapse for that matter, for the Panthers. Eight h

793
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 2: three five point fifty one eighty eight eight five point

794
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: fifty two, five point fifty the number to get on board,

795
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: and we head back to the phones and we go

796
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: to Bob in Lancaster. What do you got for us? Bob?

797
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 6: Well, again, the two thousand and four Yankees, I mean

798
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 6: that was I mean they were in Game four and

799
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 6: the Yankees had that one run lead going into the

800
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 6: bottom of the ninth, they had their clothes, their rip,

801
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 6: Mariano Rivera pitching, and you know who would have thought,

802
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean one run, I mean, I couldn't

803
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 6: believe that nobody was gonna call about the two thousand

804
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 6: and four Yankees. But that was a huge collapse in

805
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 6: my opinion.

806
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a bad one, There's no question about it.

807
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: And personally as a Yankees fan, it still stings. But

808
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: the fact that they've won since then, you know, they

809
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: won the nine World Series and have a title, you know,

810
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: one of the twenty seven total. I'll take one, you know,

811
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: I'll take one. I'm very I am very Yeah, I'm

812
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: very fortunate, and I know that I will say this though,

813
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 2: can somebody else win besides the Boston market place? Did

814
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 2: you see that kid who's like eighteen years old? Now,

815
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: so there was a kid at the Boston Celtics parade.

816
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: He's eighteen years old and he has seen eleven championships

817
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: Bruins all four teams have won. Yeah, Celtics have two titles.

818
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: I think the Bruins have won obviously, the Patriots have six,

819
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: and the Red Sox have four I want to say

820
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: four since two thousand and four. So it's just like, dude, like,

821
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: do you know how can we spread the wealth just

822
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: a little bit? Like, come on, that's just enough with Boston,

823
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: please no more? But yeah, I don't. That was ALCS.

824
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: As we were saying earlier, it's not the World Series.

825
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: It's an epic collapse. There's no question about it, especially

826
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: when you have, to his point, the best closer in baseball.

827
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that, just as a Yankees fan, Game

828
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 2: seven against the Arizona Diamondbacks still hurts more than blowing

829
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: that ALCS series because it's the World Series. I think

830
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: being in the final, like the Panthers and Oilers are tonight,

831
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: trumps anything that sits below the final round, right, like

832
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: it's got to.

833
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're all the way up at the top

834
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: and you're playing for playing to be a world champion

835
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: of whatever sport you're playing in, so it's a little

836
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 3: bit different than getting there.

837
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: And there there are some individual collapses too. I was

838
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: running down some lists and I saw a couple in golf.

839
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: I remember Greg Norman in the ninety six Masters. There

840
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 2: was one awful one that we'll touch on a little

841
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: bit later in the second hour the show, Jean van Derveld,

842
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: I think it was either the I think it was

843
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: the British Open. The statistics will blow your mind, like

844
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: how did this guy not win? Now? Look, I am

845
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: like a novice golfer and I'm actually gonna try to

846
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: get back into it a little bit here in the

847
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: coming up. But I need a lot of work so

848
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 2: I can understand how bad shots happen, especially in pressure situations.

849
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: But this is epic by Jean Vandervelt, so we'll discuss

850
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: that epic collapse. You let us know if you have

851
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: one worse than what the Panthers could have hanging around

852
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: their necks if they do not win Game seven tonight

853
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: after leading three to zero in this Stanley Cup Final

854
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: against the Oilers. You got a bigger collapse. Let us

855
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: know what it is. You got a bigger comeback than

856
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: what the Oilers are trying to pull off. Let us

857
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: know that too. Maddie and I take a break here,

858
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: but we're back with our number two and your phone

859
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: calls on One Bill's Live presented by Collide Health. It's

860
00:46:41,160 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio.

861
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

862
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: All right, our number two on a Monday one Bill's

863
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: Live First Brown Matty Lab with you and having a

864
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,479
Speaker 2: little fun today with Game seven of the Stanley Cup

865
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: Final tonight. If the Panthers blow this thing and the

866
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: Oilers complete the reverse sweep, can you think of a

867
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: bigger collapse or a bigger comeback? In sports? Eight oh

868
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: three oh five point fifty one eight eight five fifty

869
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: two five fifty the number to get on board. We

870
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: do have open lines for you. And uh, there is

871
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: one we haven't heard yet, and Manny and I were

872
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: talking during the break. We're a little surprised it hasn't

873
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: been brought up. We'll see if it's mentioned in our

874
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: next call as we go down to Mississippi and talk

875
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: to Mike. What's up, Mike?

876
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 10: Well, I've got to say that the biggest collapse and

877
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 10: it couldn't have happened to a I mean the winner.

878
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 10: I couldn't have danced for a different per team to

879
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 10: have done this. But the two thy seventeen Super Bowl

880
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 10: when New England came from behind down three scores late

881
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 10: in the game and beat at Lammin.

882
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, believe me when I asked one, Yeah, I.

883
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 10: Believe the biggest collapses I can think of, and being

884
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 10: a Bills fan, it really pained me to see New

885
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 10: England win it.

886
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a small part of me, Mike, watching

887
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: that Super Bowl live in my living room, saying, oh

888
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: my gosh, can we actually watched these Turkeys lose this thing? Yeah,

889
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: this is gonna be great. But I refused. I refused

890
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: to start celebrating early. And some of my neighbors were

891
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: sitting there with me and they started celebrating, and I'm like,

892
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: please don't do that. You're inviting the football gods to

893
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: shut you up. Please don't do that. And then, sure enough,

894
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan, who was the offensive coordinator back then for

895
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: the Falcons at the time, for some bizarre reason, decided

896
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: not to run the football and chew up some clock

897
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 2: he kept throwing. I think they ran five times in

898
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 2: the second half, and it just fed into the Brady

899
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: machine and they came back and won after being down

900
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: twenty eight to three. Mike, that's a good one. We

901
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: were hoping somebody would come up with it. He came

902
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: through with us for us. Thank you very much for

903
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: the phone call. I still that ugh. That one annoys me.

904
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: More than any of the Patriots' Super bowls, like the

905
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: one that when they beat the Rams for the first one.

906
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: That was impressive because the Rams were the greatest show

907
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: on turf. They had won the Super Bowl two years

908
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: prior and it was like wow, you know so and

909
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: they were a machine on offense, the Rams. So to

910
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: see the Patriots to kind of hold them down and

911
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 2: then they go for it late to stay keep the

912
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: offense on the field because the defensive coordinator basically told Belichick,

913
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: we're gassed, we got nothing left. So if you put

914
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: us out there again, they're going to score. And so

915
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: they decided to take, you know, an aggressive approach on

916
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: that final drive and end up kicking the field goal

917
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 2: to win. That was impressive. This one against the Falcons.

918
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: I wanted to vomit and I couldn't take it. That

919
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: was just so galling. I can't imagine what it was

920
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 2: like for Falcons fans. Another team, you know that hasn't

921
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl. There it is, You're gonna beat

922
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: the team of the decade, you know, maybe the team

923
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: of the era to win the Super Bowl.

924
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

925
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: Oh, up twenty eight to three in the third quarter.

926
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 2: And that is the ultimate game. I think that's that's

927
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: right up there with what we may witness tonight. I

928
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: think that's pretty that might be the closest.

929
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

930
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: Up twenty five in the Super Bowl in the third quarter, third.

931
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: Quarter, Tom Brady finished that game with four hundred and

932
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 3: sixty six passing yards.

933
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 11: That's crazy.

934
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, how many?

935
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 2: I wonder how many Ryan finished?

936
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 3: He got the box score up right now?

937
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I do what Matt Ryan.

938
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 3: Ryan was seventeen of twenty three for two hundred and

939
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: eighty four yards, finished with a one forty four quarterback

940
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 3: rating or passer rating.

941
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: I should say, yesh, Yeah, that that might be the one.

942
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: Like if somebody asked me what rises to the level

943
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: of the Panthers blowing it and the Oilers doing the

944
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: reverse sweep tonight, that's a the tople list. That might

945
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: that might be at the top of my list. Somebody's

946
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 2: got to convince me otherwise, though. And we've got callers

947
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: at eight O three oh five fifty. So let's go

948
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: to them, and we go to Steve and West senecon X.

949
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: What do you got for a Steve Chris, how you

950
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: doing that?

951
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 12: He could to talk to you? I say, I just

952
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 12: get a few in them, and it's gonna do it,

953
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 12: take it all the way. I think they got Carolina's

954
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 12: number down, and it's ut the Carolina to somehow adjust.

955
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 12: I just got the feeling they'll do it. Which he's

956
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 12: on the heat too. I don't have to heat too

957
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 12: well either, But I and I agree it's sitting in

958
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 12: the blood. But sometimes I think there are some genealogy

959
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 12: factors there too, Like, yeah, I got a sister that

960
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 12: she sweats like crazy to heat much. Yeah, I got

961
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 12: another sister. She seals the heat. She never complains about

962
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 12: the heat. So I said, somebody, you know, hang up

963
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 12: in here. What you's got to say? A good job?

964
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Steve. So he thinks Edmonton's going to pull

965
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: it off. I think he meant Florida, not Carolina. But yeah,

966
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 2: uh man, he touched on everything we discussed already. He

967
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: just ran ran down the gamut. That was pretty crazy.

968
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: That was like a laundry. But yeah, I mean it's

969
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: hard to it's hard to see the role that Edmonton

970
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: is on right now stopping. But everybody was saying the

971
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: same thing about the Panthers three games ago, and I

972
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 2: think that's what makes Game seven's like this. So fascinating

973
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: because something could change. You're changing the venue, the atmosphere

974
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: will be decidedly different. How much of an impact does

975
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: that have. I don't know. Maybe it doesn't have any impact,

976
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: but some guys feel different when they're backed by a crowd.

977
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: That being said, it's game seven, like these guys are

978
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: going to be jazzed through the roof. Like you don't

979
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: get naturally amped for a game like this, you don't

980
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 2: have a pulse.

981
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you already got it within yet to be super

982
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 3: amped for this one. I was reading a couple articles

983
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 3: previewing the game, and it seems like a lot of

984
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: people are picking the Oilers.

985
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 2: To win it. Yeah. I mean they've been impressive. They've

986
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: won many times conly, and they've been more resourceful, and

987
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, the Panthers just can't get out of

988
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: their own way there. I think that I saw they

989
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: were one for nineteen on the power play in their

990
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: last nineteen power play opportunities. I guess they're making a

991
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: couple of changes tonight to try to address that. But boy,

992
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: when it's rolling downhill, it's hard to stop that boulder,

993
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: it really is anybody that tell Look, I know there

994
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: are people out there that don't believe in momentum real.

995
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: It's real.

996
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 3: It is real.

997
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: It is a real thing. And you don't even have

998
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: to play at the highest level of whatever sport you

999
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: play to know that that is a real thing. It

1000
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: does exist, and you can say it's in even if

1001
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: you say, oh, it's all in the player's heads, well,

1002
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 2: even if it is, it still makes it real because

1003
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 2: it has an impact on the outcome of the game.

1004
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 3: Let's think back to Week seventeen when the Bills was

1005
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 3: seventeen or eighteen. Deonta Hardy poker turn eighteen. Yeah, I

1006
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 3: don't know why I said seventeen, thinking the seasons seventeen.

1007
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fun.

1008
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Deoncey Hardy's ninety six haired punt return touchdown and

1009
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 3: tie things up in the fourth quarter. Talk about momentum.

1010
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 2: That's what everybody said after the game. It turned on

1011
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: its head.

1012
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was incredible to watch and that was

1013
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: that was for everything. The Bills needed to win that

1014
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 3: game to win the AFC East and have a seat

1015
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. It was huge. And when something like

1016
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: that happens, it infects your entire team. It's infectious.

1017
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: Well, if you saw the bench after he took that back.

1018
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think there was a single person

1019
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 2: on the Bill's bench who did not leave their feet

1020
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: multiple time. The entire sideline was jumping up and down

1021
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 2: as he ran past them, and most of the Bills

1022
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 2: fans that were at that game were behind the Bills

1023
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,280
Speaker 2: bench as well, and they were jumping in unison also,

1024
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: like it was just.

1025
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 7: You.

1026
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: If you didn't believe the energy was there, you could

1027
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: see it. If you were, you know, watching from your

1028
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: TV and couldn't feel it, you could see it. I mean,

1029
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: it was wholly evident. So yeah, momentum is a thing

1030
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: for sure. Uh but let's get back to the phones

1031
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: at eight oh three five point fifty one eight eight

1032
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 2: eight five fifty two, five fifty Can you think of

1033
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: a bigger collapse or a bigger comeback in sports? If

1034
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: the Panthers blow it and the Oilers pull it off tonight,

1035
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 2: Lou in Rochester, what do you got for us, Lou?

1036
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, Hi, I'm going to go back to the World

1037
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 11: Series in nineteen sixty nine, Okay, between the Mets and

1038
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 11: the Baltimore Orioles. Right, the Orioles were supposed to win

1039
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 11: that series big time because they were considered one of

1040
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 11: the best teams uh in baseball for for a long time,

1041
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 11: and they lost four games to one.

1042
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a collapse. Yeah, the Orioles were clearly

1043
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 2: the more talented team all around, and the Mets had

1044
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: a good pitching staff, but out they did not have

1045
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: the same level of talent in the field that the

1046
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 2: Orioles brought to the table. And yes, the Orioles were

1047
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 2: heavy favorites. And it's why to this day they are

1048
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: still called the Miracle Mets because people thought it was

1049
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: a miracle that they beat that Orioles team in five games.

1050
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: I mean, then just beat them, beat them bad. Yeah, No,

1051
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: that's a good one. Lou I liked that call, so nice.

1052
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: Nice job on that. Going back in time a little bit,

1053
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: going back to the Miracle Mets of nineteen sixty nine. Yeah,

1054
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: the Orioles were a darn good team in the late

1055
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: sixties early seventies, and they just had trouble. They should

1056
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: have won multiple titles back then. I'm trying. I think

1057
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: they won at least one. I want to say it

1058
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: was either seventy or seventy one. This is before my

1059
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: time too, so World Series. I know they won in

1060
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: eighty three, but I'm pretty sure they won late sixties. Yeah,

1061
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: six and seventy, so they won two in that era.

1062
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: But sixty nine a lot of people thought they should

1063
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: have won also, and they did not. Man, they had

1064
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: a stacked team that was the Brooks Robinson teams. He

1065
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: was a third great third baseman for them, Hall of Famer.

1066
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: But they had a lot of good players. Jim Palmer

1067
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 2: was a Cy Young Award winning pitcher on that team,

1068
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: and they had like three or four really good pitchers.

1069
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: That's what happens, though. You have some of those teams

1070
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: that just cannot it's like they're so good, it's like, oh,

1071
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: this team should be a dynasty, and they win like

1072
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: one or none. I think about the Braves. I think

1073
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: you're old enough to remember the Braves runs, you know,

1074
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: in the nineties, I mean they were winning. I think

1075
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: they won like twelve straight NL East titles, one World

1076
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: Series championship in ninety five, one like Holy Crow. That

1077
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: was like and their pitching staff was stupid. I think

1078
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: they have so Greg maddox is in the Hall of

1079
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: Fame already. They had Tom Glavin, Steve Avery, John Smoltz.

1080
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: They were all the same pitching staff. I don't know

1081
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 2: what happened to them. They just could not get the

1082
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: job done. I still joke with our couple of our

1083
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: coworkers about that, like the ninety six series between the

1084
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: Yankees and Braves, but I won't get into it. It's

1085
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: a sore subject. But let's uh, let's get back to

1086
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: the phones at eight oh three, five fifty one, eight

1087
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: eight five fifty two fifty looking for a bigger collapse

1088
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: or a bigger comeback in sports than the one that

1089
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: could happen in the Stanley Cup Final tonight, Game seven.

1090
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: To Kurt and Hamburg, we go, what do you got

1091
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: for his? Kurt?

1092
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if there is much of a

1093
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: bigger one, especially coming to a Stanley Cup finals first

1094
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: of all, eight Maddy and Chris Thanker taking my call. Sure,

1095
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: I I beginning of a series, and I put a

1096
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: little money down on the Panthers the suite, and uh,

1097
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: you could just see that they're they're gripping their sticks

1098
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: so tight that I mean that those things are splintering

1099
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: and turning into sawdust. So but the real reason why

1100
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: Edmonton's gonna win tonight is little Ben Stetler. God bless him,

1101
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: God bless him. So that little six year old that

1102
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: passed away a little while ago, about a year and

1103
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: a half ago, while up there in Edmonton. So but

1104
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: that's my thoughts. Man. I just mcdavi's gonna take over

1105
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be over. They're gonna be raising the

1106
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: cup in Edmonton again to night in Florida tonight.

1107
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in Florida. They'll bring it back to him.

1108
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: And then all right, Kurt, thanks for the call. And

1109
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: that's the other part of momentum. The other team feels it,

1110
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: they lose it, and then they panic, and Florida looks

1111
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: a little like that right now, and even tonight, Maddie.

1112
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: It's not just because they've lost three games in a row,

1113
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: but they're playing at home. The pressure is on them

1114
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: to win tonight. All the pressure is on them, I think,

1115
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: even though it's a game.

1116
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 3: Seven, especially if it's a team like the Panthers who

1117
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: are trying to win that first one, it's there's a difference.

1118
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 3: And I know they were there lastlast year, but there's

1119
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 3: a difference in actually winning them multiple times like the

1120
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 3: Oilers have. Like I said, in a short time period too,

1121
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 3: there's a sense of been there, done that, and when

1122
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: you're trying to be there and do that for the

1123
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 3: first time, there's some added pressure to that for sure.

1124
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to Nick in Georgia.

1125
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: What do you got for us, Nick, Well, I think

1126
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 2: the gold medal game are not the gold medal game,

1127
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: but the Russia USA game in nineteen eighty. Oh yeah,

1128
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 2: the semi final.

1129
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, the way it was, it wasn't really it

1130
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 6: was a round robin for the gold medal.

1131
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, But yes, that's a

1132
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 2: great one. You want to talk about a collapse the Yeah,

1133
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 2: the famed Soviet team which had laid wasted just about everybody. Yeah,

1134
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: they they totally panicked. They totally panicked in that game.

1135
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: And I think the main reason why is because they're

1136
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: head coach panicked. So they go down early in that

1137
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: game and I think it was only like halfway through.

1138
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: And their goaltender was Tretchiak, and he was widely considered

1139
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: the best goaltender in the world, if not the best,

1140
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: one of the best, and the head coach of the

1141
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 2: Rush of the Soviet team, he benches them, so it's

1142
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: like the best goaltender ever, and I think the score

1143
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 2: was only like two nothing or something. He benches them.

1144
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 2: I think making that move did more damage to the

1145
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: psyche of his team than anything else the American kids

1146
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 2: were doing in the game. Like that was a major

1147
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: gaff by the head coach, Like instead of being like everybody,

1148
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: let's just breathe a second, here, we're good, he benches

1149
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: the goaltender and they were a mess. After that, they

1150
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: were a head case. And even then they almost came back.

1151
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: Jim Craig stood on his head for the Americans in

1152
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 2: net because he stopped. He made some unbelievable saves in

1153
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 2: that game, and they went at three to two to

1154
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: go to the gold medal game where they beat Finland.

1155
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 2: I want to say, I think that's right. So they

1156
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: beat Finland for the gold medal. But yeah, that's that's

1157
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 2: a good collapse. I think in terms of a favorite

1158
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: and an underdog, it's probably number one. A bunch of

1159
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: eighteen nineteen year old kids skating around, yeah, who just

1160
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: started college, and they're playing the famed Soviet team, you know,

1161
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 2: with full grow I mean grown men like twenty six,

1162
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: twenty seven, twenty eight years old. That's why they call

1163
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: it the miracle on ice. I mean, it was totally unexpected, unanticipated,

1164
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 2: and it happened. I'm trying to I'm trying. I'm wrestling

1165
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: with the word collapse, you know, because it was one

1166
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 2: game they were heavily favored. They were never really up

1167
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: by much. I'm trying to remember if the Soviets even

1168
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: had the lead at any point in that game. I mean,

1169
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 2: I was a young, young kid and I watched that

1170
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: game on tape delay. I remember when they won, when

1171
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: the game was over, at least on ABC on television.

1172
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 2: I remember running out into my driveway and I was

1173
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: hooting and hollering. I got neighbors looking at me like

1174
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 2: I'm a nut job. I was like, how are you

1175
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: not watching that game? It was unbelievable.

1176
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 3: They were up, but the Soviet Union was up three

1177
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 3: to two heading into the third.

1178
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 2: Oh so they were ahead? Okay, well yeah, I guess

1179
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: that would. I mean, it's a small lead. Do we

1180
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 2: really call that a collapse? I think it's more of

1181
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 2: an upset than a collapse. I think I don't, because

1182
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 2: I really think the biggest gaff in the whole game

1183
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: was the head coach bench and the goaltender. That was

1184
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: the worst thing that happened in that game for the Soviets. Hmm.

1185
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: I wrestle with calling it a collapse. I'm more inclined

1186
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: to call in an upset than collapse, and I think

1187
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 2: I think those are different.

1188
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 3: I would yeah, I would agree with that collapse. Upset

1189
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 3: there's yeah, upset is way different than a collapse. An

1190
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 3: upset is you were supposed to win and you didn't end.

1191
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not. Yeah, they didn't play. I don't

1192
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 2: think they played poorly.

1193
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 3: I mean the final score is four to three, so yeah,

1194
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: it was close.

1195
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I can call that a collapse.

1196
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: I'm sticking with upset on the description for that game. Yeah, yeah,

1197
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 2: I think so because to your point, or after looking

1198
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 2: it up and thank you for doing that to remind

1199
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 2: me that they had to lead three to two. So yeah, yeah,

1200
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 2: I think upset is a better description of that game.

1201
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: But you let us know. Game seven, Stanley Cup Final tonight.

1202
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: Did you have did I didn't even ask you. Did

1203
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: you have one that you thought rose to the level

1204
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: of this thing? Did you? I think that I had.

1205
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 2: I had to look down a list. Super Bowl.

1206
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Falcon's Patriots Super Bowl was at

1207
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 3: the top of my list, and then the comeback game

1208
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 3: for the Bills. You know, I think that was at

1209
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 3: the top of the list too. One interesting one that

1210
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 3: I read on a list that speaking of collapse, comeback

1211
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 3: or collapse upset, here's one on the comeback side. Would

1212
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 3: you call it a comeback? This was at the bottom

1213
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 3: of a list, so didn't make number one because but

1214
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 3: made a list and it was Michael Jordan coming back

1215
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 3: to the NBA after seventeen months stint playing baseball. Do

1216
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 3: you believe that qualifies for a comeback?

1217
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: I mean yes, I mean it would fall under the description,

1218
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 2: you know, you're coming back out of retirement. The most

1219
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 2: vis visible basketball player in the world at the time

1220
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 2: and maybe even to some degree now still, he was

1221
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: the first world recognized basketball player I think, like the

1222
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 2: whole like that's when the NBA kind of became a

1223
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 2: global game. And I mean he's a big reason why

1224
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 2: the NBA became a global game. So him coming, yeah,

1225
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 2: I mean it's a comeback, but I think it's a

1226
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 2: different kind of comeback. It's a person Yes, it's a

1227
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 2: personal thing, not a team thing. And he's not trying

1228
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 2: to close out a series or something here necessarily, although

1229
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: he did come back and then won three more championships

1230
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 2: in a row. The bane of my existence as a

1231
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 2: Knicks fan. Yeah yeah, I never agreed with wearing forty

1232
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 2: five though. I thought that was silly, yeah right, like

1233
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: that was the number you war in baseball and it

1234
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: didn't work, like but yes, it would be a comeback

1235
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: of a different sort. So I told you I was

1236
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: going to read you these stats from the golf collapse

1237
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: of Jean van de Veldt. He's a French golfer, took

1238
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 2: a surprising lead at the ninety nine British Open at

1239
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: Carnoustie in Scotland and low ranking, you know, on the

1240
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 2: PGA tour list, but he was just strokes away from

1241
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: winning the event over a very competitive field in the

1242
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: final round. So takes his So he's up three shots

1243
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: on the final hole. Oh okay, So he just pars

1244
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: this thing, you know, or even in a bogey, he

1245
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: should be able to get out of there. Okay. After

1246
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: taking his first two shots, he's in the rough, but

1247
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 2: with a three stroke lead, had some room to spare.

1248
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 2: So the third shot he tries to he said, he

1249
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 2: tried to go forward. This is him after the match,

1250
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: and he said, the only thing I was trying to

1251
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 2: do is avoid putting it in the water.

1252
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 3: What happens when you try to avoid putting it in.

1253
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 2: It's right in the water. But seventy five percent of

1254
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 2: the ball was outside the water when it landed, because

1255
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,799
Speaker 2: I guess it was in like some mud or something.

1256
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 2: But the tide would come in and go out and

1257
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 2: move the ball, so the ball would be underwater and

1258
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 2: then be above the water. So he takes off his

1259
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 2: shoes and socks, he climbs in and then he decides

1260
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a drop, so so now it's

1261
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 2: another stroke. The next shot he gets to the green

1262
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 2: eventually sinks the putt, but by that time the golfer

1263
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 2: who was closest to him tied him, and then he

1264
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 2: loses a four hole playoff.

1265
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 3: Oh man, it went to a playoff too.

1266
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: It was called by bb one of the greatest chokes

1267
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 2: in open history. Talk about not pulling any punches, BBC.

1268
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 2: Easy like that.

1269
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 3: That's me every time I go on.

1270
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 2: Golf, kicking a guy when he's down, sheeeze.

1271
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 3: One of the worst chokes in history.

1272
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 2: He's up to his knees in the water. For God's sake,

1273
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: cut him a break fall. Every everybody's played golf has

1274
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 2: been there. Yeah, eighth three, five point fifty one, eight eight,

1275
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifties the number to get on board.

1276
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: If you can come up with a bigger collapse or

1277
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: a bigger comeback in sports than the one we may

1278
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 2: witness tonight in Game seven of the Stanley Cup Final,

1279
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 2: we should spin it over to the tweet sheet. We

1280
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 2: have not gotten there yet. Tweet sheet brought to you

1281
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 2: by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of

1282
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills and Buffalo down says. First one that

1283
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 2: comes to mind is the Bills comeback against Warren Moon

1284
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: and the Oilers down thirty two in the second half. Yeah,

1285
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 2: twenty eight to three at halftime, and then interception returned

1286
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: for a touchdown I believe to make it thirty five

1287
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: to three in the third quarter, and that's when people

1288
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 2: really started to leave. And the one thing that a

1289
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: lot of people forget is that game was not a sellout.

1290
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 2: It was blacked out locally here in Buffalo when they

1291
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: used to still have TV blackouts. So fans left and

1292
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 2: they're listening on their radios presumably trying to get out

1293
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: of here. I don't know if there was traffic or

1294
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: if it was bad. And then the comeback starts, and

1295
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 2: famously people are trying to climb the fence to get

1296
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 2: back into the game, and it became such a security

1297
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: mess that they contacted Bill Pollian, who was the general

1298
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 2: manager at the time, and he said, just let him

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01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: back in. Just let him back in, because you see

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01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 2: it right on your ticket, or at least when you

1301
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: had physical tickets, it said no re entry, So you leave.

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01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: That's it, Sorry, buddy. They let them back in and

1303
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,959
Speaker 2: they watched the rest of this and then bb touchdown

1304
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 2: that our MSG viewers are watching now is a little

1305
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 2: bit of a controversial play because he stepped out of

1306
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 2: bounds and then came back in. The ref didn't see it.

1307
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 2: That touchdown should not have counted. So there are a

1308
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: little little easter eggs in this game. That and a

1309
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: lot had to happen to pull off that kind of

1310
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: a comeback. But that was a collapse of epic proportions

1311
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 2: by an Oilers team that was a very talented team.

1312
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 2: I mean that was the run and shoot Oilers. They

1313
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 2: used to be up at the top of the league

1314
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: and scoring almost every year. Outside of a couple of

1315
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: division titles, they did not win a damn thing like

1316
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: one of the I mean one of the best. I mean,

1317
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 2: at least the Bills won ADFC titles like the Oilers

1318
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: were every bit an offensive juggernaut as the Bills were

1319
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 2: back then, and they could not win a thing outside

1320
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 2: of it, like I said, a division title or two

1321
01:12:54,720 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: in the old AFC Central. So yeah, and look, I'm

1322
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: sure they're not the first and they probably won't be

1323
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: the last. There's a lot of good teams in the

1324
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: NFL that don't win much because the competition is just

1325
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 2: so stiff in this league. It's crazy.

1326
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, And hopefully the Bills can say they

1327
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 3: are one of the teams that has been good currently

1328
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 3: and gets to the super Bowl because we've got a

1329
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 3: good group here, and we have had a good group

1330
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 3: here for the past few seasons. It's just figuring out

1331
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 3: what are those final pieces that can get Josh Allen

1332
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 3: and company over the hump. And they've got a lot

1333
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 3: of new pieces this season, and maybe that is the answer.

1334
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 2: Different formula. Yeah, we'll see Jess on the tweets, She says,

1335
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 2: two thousand and four Alcs Yankees blow a three game lead.

1336
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 2: As a Yankees fan, that still hurts comparable to four

1337
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 2: loss Super Bowls. Go Bills, Go Yankees. Well, hold on

1338
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 2: a second, I don't know if lose. Look, I know

1339
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: it was the Red Sox. I know you were up

1340
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: three to zero and you lose that thing. But it

1341
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: does not equate to four consecutive Super Bowl losses. I

1342
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: don't even think it's in the same stratosphere as four

1343
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: super Bowl losses. First of all, it's not the World

1344
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: Series that's number one, number two. As I've said more

1345
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 2: than once on this show, the Yankees have twenty seven titles,

1346
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 2: so it's not like you haven't seen them win four

1347
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 2: straight Super Bowls. Trump's that one hundred times out of

1348
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 2: one hundred. I get the frustration and the disappointment and

1349
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 2: the pain, but it does not in my estimation, it

1350
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: doesn't rise to the level of a Super Bowl defeat,

1351
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: let alone four consecutive eight, three, five fifty. Still taking

1352
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 2: your phone calls, You've got a bigger collapse or a

1353
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 2: bigger comeback in sports than the one we may witness

1354
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: tonight between the Oilers and the Panthers. You let us

1355
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 2: know got open lines for you, Still taking your calls,

1356
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 2: still taking your tweets. Chris Brown, Maddi glab with you

1357
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 2: here at one Bill's Live.

1358
01:14:51,040 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 5: Stay with us.

1359
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,800
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1360
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 2: Want to be a part of the high Mark Stadium family,

1361
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,639
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1362
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 2: Stadium Job Fair. This event will take place on July

1363
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: sixteenth from five to eight pm in the high Mark

1364
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 2: Stadium press Box. Learn about open opportunities with our stadium

1365
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: partners and be part of on the spot interviews. For

1366
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 2: more information, visit the high Mark Stadium social media channels

1367
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: and jump on Twitter and jump on Instagram. Look for

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01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 2: high Mark Stadium and find all the information there for

1369
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 2: the job Fair July sixteenth, five to eight pm in

1370
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: the high Mark Stadium press Box. Got to get back

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01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 2: to the phones at eight oh three oh five point

1372
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five point fifty.

1373
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 2: We're looking from you for a bigger collapse or bigger

1374
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 2: comeback in sports than the one we may see tonight

1375
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 2: between the Panthers and Oilers in Game seven of the

1376
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Final. Back to the phones we go, and

1377
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: to Bruce and Ken Moore. What do you have for us?

1378
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 8: Bruce, Chris and Maddy. Thanks for taking my call. I

1379
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 8: had my eyes dilated today so I couldn't give you

1380
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:23,560
Speaker 8: the exact stats. But my candidate is going back to baseball.

1381
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 8: The nineteen sixty four Phillies, if I remember correctly, had

1382
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 8: it with twelve games left, had an eight game lead

1383
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 8: and they lost I believe ten of their last eleven games,

1384
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 8: and the Cardinals won the Pennant. And then in nineteen

1385
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 8: fifty one, the Brooklyn Dodgers had I believe a thirteen

1386
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 8: game lead over the New York Giants in the second

1387
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 8: week of August, and the Dodgers had their epic collapse

1388
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 8: climax by Bobby Thompson's home run in the playoffs. So

1389
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 8: those are my candidates for you.

1390
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bruce, I know the nineteen fifty one Pennant raise

1391
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 2: very well because my dad grew up New York Giants fan,

1392
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: really yes, and he and he grew up in Hollis, Queens,

1393
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 2: which is the middle of Dodgers country. But because his

1394
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 2: dad was a Giants fan, he inherited the fandom and

1395
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 2: he was always ridiculed at school, and he remembers listening

1396
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 2: to that game on his transistor radio in the lunch

1397
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: room in the cafeteria. He was six years old at

1398
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 2: the time. Oh my god, and he remembers listening to

1399
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: that game. So I grew up knowing all too much

1400
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 2: about the nineteen fifty one Penn Race. So I will

1401
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 2: tell you. I have some of the numbers here in

1402
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 2: front of me. Thirteen games back in mid August, and

1403
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 2: the Giants caught the Dodgers. They won thirty seven of

1404
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 2: their last forty four games. Wow, and Brooklyn went nine

1405
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 2: and eleven down the stretch. And then what I did,

1406
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 2: what I did not know and forgot about, was they

1407
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 2: made them play a best of three tiebreaker. Like I

1408
01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: was a young kid for the seventy eight one game

1409
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,799
Speaker 2: playoff between the Yankees and the Dodgers, when the Yankees

1410
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 2: overtook the Red Sox and then the Red Sox storm

1411
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 2: back to time at the end of the season, setting

1412
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 2: up that one game playoff. This was a best of three.

1413
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: Giants win the opener. Dodgers romp in Game two, win

1414
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 2: ten to nothing, and then they're leading four to one

1415
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: in the ninth inning of Game three at the Polo

1416
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 2: Grounds and This is another interesting fact, Bruce. It was

1417
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 2: the first game ever televised nationally for Major League Baseball,

1418
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 2: and that's why I think so many people remember it.

1419
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 2: But then, yes, as you said, Bobby Thompson, fairy tale

1420
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 2: ending three run home run over the left field wall,

1421
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 2: and I'm looking up some of the stats now, Bruce,

1422
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 2: and thanks very much for the call. There is a

1423
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: photo of Ralph Branca, who was the pitcher, and he

1424
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: is lying face down on the steps of the clubhouse

1425
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 2: in the Dodgers' clubhouse. And my dad told me this

1426
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 2: the old Polo Grounds was that it was for polo.

1427
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: It was a horse field that they reconfigured into a

1428
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 2: baseball field. And my dad, who had been to the stadium,

1429
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: told me that the dugouts were where dugouts normally are

1430
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 2: first and third base side, but there were no clubhouses

1431
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 2: behind them. The clubhouses were out behind center field. And

1432
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 2: he said the worst thing for Ralph Branca was after

1433
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 2: the game ended, he couldn't retreat to the dugout and

1434
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 2: just go to the clubhouse. He had to go to

1435
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 2: the dugout, get all your stuff, and then walk all

1436
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 2: the way out to center field and go out that way.

1437
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 2: So you just had it, just had to sit with

1438
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: you for that whole long like you know what I mean,

1439
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 2: You're just in the stew of disappointment for that whole

1440
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 2: long walk out to center field. And I'm pretty confident

1441
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 2: Giants fans were letting them have it. And then the

1442
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 2: Giants obviously went to the World Series with that win

1443
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 2: five to four. And it's what we now know is

1444
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 2: the shot heard around the world, also called the Miracle

1445
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: of Coogan's Bluff, that's what Dodgers fans call it. But yes,

1446
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 2: that is that is an epic collapse and a hell

1447
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 2: of a comeback. Thirty seven of forty four. That's insane.

1448
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's wild.

1449
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 2: Your last forty four games. It is so hard to

1450
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,799
Speaker 2: do lose seven games in your last fourtyes.

1451
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 3: And usually at that point in the season, your pitchers may.

1452
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: Not be feeling as get somebody with a dead arm.

1453
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 2: Beginning of the year.

1454
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 3: You've probably got some injuries piled up because it is

1455
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:37,919
Speaker 3: a long season.

1456
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that that one. I can't imagine being a

1457
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 2: six year old and witnessing that, like my dad did.

1458
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 2: So really yeah, really, I mean that's baseball's heyday too,

1459
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 2: you know, what I mean, it's really really cool stuff.

1460
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 2: Let's go to Jonathan and Batavian X. What's up?

1461
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 6: Jonathan, Hey stands for the show.

1462
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 2: I actually got four or okay, seven.

1463
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 13: That's twenty eleven Red Sox, the twenty eleven Braves, all

1464
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 13: big classes of baseball, and I won for football the

1465
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:11,799
Speaker 13: Minnesota Vikings. It was close chop at the Minnesota Vikings

1466
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 13: in twenty twenty two. So those are the four I

1467
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 13: came in my head. It was a lot wise those

1468
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 13: in my head.

1469
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, those are good. Jonathan. You're talking about the

1470
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 2: Vikings who lost to Brian Dables Giants. Yeah, that that

1471
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: was a huge, huge comeback. It trumped the I think

1472
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: the Colts had a big comeback where they won forty

1473
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 2: five forty four in the regular season, and I think

1474
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 2: the loss by the Vikings to the Giants trumped it

1475
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 2: because it was a bigger deficit in the regular season.

1476
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: Twenty eleven Red Sox blew a nine game lead in

1477
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,480
Speaker 2: the wild card race and didn't even make the playoffs.

1478
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 2: They went seven to twenty in September. Yah, holy cow,

1479
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: that is bad. Oh. I feel a lot better now

1480
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 2: after hearing all the Yankees two thousand and four alcs.

1481
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 2: That's a good one. What did he say the two

1482
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,480
Speaker 2: thousand and seven.

1483
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 3: Mets, He said, I have that one pulled up. They

1484
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 3: lost twelve of their seventeen last games and missed the postseason.

1485
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 2: So oh, the Phillies I think edged them out that

1486
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 2: year if I remember right, they.

1487
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 3: Had a seven game division lead on September twelve. The

1488
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 3: Mets suffered a historic collapse, lost twelve of their seven

1489
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 3: twelve of their last seventeen games.

1490
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, that's a bad one. Those are

1491
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 2: some good submissions. I like those. Thanks for ripping off

1492
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 2: a handful of them for us to chew on there.

1493
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 2: Let's go to Matt in Hamburg next. What do you

1494
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 2: got for us?

1495
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 12: Matt Hey, good after you.

1496
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 4: And Chris Maddie.

1497
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 13: I call it every once in a while.

1498
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 14: I listen to you guys almost every day.

1499
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 2: Thanks the show.

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01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 14: I heard what you said about comparing the ACLS series

1501
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 14: between the Yanks and the Socks against the Bills for

1502
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 14: Super Bowl losses, and I gotta say, I think it

1503
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 14: depends on are you considering the level of pain the

1504
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 14: fans felt, or are you measuring this by the athletic

1505
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,799
Speaker 14: seat on the field? Because I would say, I would suggest,

1506
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 14: even though there are four consecutive Super Bowls, those are

1507
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 14: four individual, single opportunity games, and it's in any given

1508
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 14: Sunday situation, but a series. For you to have to

1509
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 14: lose four in a row and blow that like that,

1510
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 14: I think that's a much larger disappointment, even though it's

1511
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 14: probably hurts put.

1512
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're arguing it's the same team against the

1513
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 2: same team in the same series. I kind of see

1514
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: what you're saying there, Matt, I get it. But by

1515
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 2: the same token, you could say largely twenty two of

1516
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 2: the I mean twenty two players were on that Bill's

1517
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: roster for all four Super Bowls. I realize that's not

1518
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 2: a whole team, and they lost four four consecutive years.

1519
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 2: I think we know that football obviously doesn't equate to

1520
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: basketball or hockey or baseball because they don't haveies. To me,

1521
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 2: being in the Ultimate Game four times in four consecutive

1522
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 2: years and losing all four of those, I don't know why,

1523
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 2: but I just and I was strictly talking from a

1524
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 2: fan pain perspective, I think it trumps the Alcs because

1525
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 2: if you're a Yankees fan, like I am, with you Yeah,

1526
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 2: if you're a Yankees fan like I am, we've won

1527
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:25,679
Speaker 2: plenty In just about any Yankees fans lifetime, they've won plenty,

1528
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 2: so it makes the sting a little bit less. Yes,

1529
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 2: it was the Red Sox. Yes, I was stewing for

1530
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 2: a week after it, just like everybody else. But I man,

1531
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 2: it's tough to top. It's tough to top the Super

1532
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 2: Bowl defeats. And again, I'll go back to what I

1533
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 2: said earlier, Bills haven't won one yet and that just

1534
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 2: makes it hurt even more.

1535
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so close.

1536
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 2: Yes, but yes that al CS was terrible. It was terrible,

1537
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 2: but there's been a lot of success to enjoy as

1538
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 2: a Yankees fan too, So it's really kind of hard

1539
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 2: to let that stick with you, even if it is

1540
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 2: the Red Sox, because every time they a Red Sox

1541
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 2: fan comes at you, you just say, twenty seven, buddy,

1542
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 2: twenty seven. Just sit down with your what have they

1543
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 2: got six now? And that's where you leave it, because

1544
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: you can't. It's just simple math. I was trying to

1545
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 2: think of anything else that I could come up with

1546
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 2: from a collapse or a comeback, and we went through

1547
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 2: some of the golf ones. I mean, the eighty six

1548
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 2: World Series is right in the wheelhouse of my early

1549
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 2: teenage years, and I watched every single pitch of that

1550
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 2: eighty six series and it was it was competitive. It

1551
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 2: went back and forth. I think I'm not going to

1552
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: remember game by game, but I know that they either

1553
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 2: split the first two games, had to go up to Boston,

1554
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 2: and Lenny Dyster hit a big home run for the

1555
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 2: Mets then and they took a game out of Boston.

1556
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 2: So Red Sox up three to two. Game six is

1557
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: the clincher in New York. I mean it's right there

1558
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 2: for them. I mean they lead five to three at

1559
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 2: Shay with two outs and the base is empty in

1560
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 2: the bottom of the tenth of Game six, and they

1561
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 2: needed one out, and manager John McNamara stuck with Bill

1562
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 2: Buckner in the out at first base when he had

1563
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 2: typically put in. I want to say, the guy's name

1564
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: was John Stapleton, who was a better defensive first baseman,

1565
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 2: and in the late innings when they had the lead,

1566
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 2: he would take Buckner out, who was the better hitter,

1567
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 2: and put the better fielder in John Stapleton. It's a

1568
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 2: common practice by managers, but because he wanted Buckner, the

1569
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 2: story goes. He wanted Buckner to be on the field

1570
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 2: when they won and let him enjoy it, because, as

1571
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 2: you know, Buckner played for the Cubs for a long time.

1572
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 2: He was a really good player for them, had traveled

1573
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: around the league, had wonner World Series. He wanted him

1574
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: to be on the field to win, to feel the

1575
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:08,839
Speaker 2: elation of winning the World Series. And then the horrible happens.

1576
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 2: Mookie Wilson roller up first base and Buckner just lets

1577
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 2: it go between the wickets and he knows he can't

1578
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 2: get the ball because he was a hobbling. He had

1579
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: a bad leg. So yeah, it was bad, I mean,

1580
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 2: because he knew he wasn't gonna be able to catch

1581
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: the ball before the guy's round in third and scores,

1582
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 2: I mean, Ray Knight, the third basement's on second, he

1583
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 2: comes around third, he scores, the Mets win, and to

1584
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 2: what we were talking about before, momentum, it totally shifted.

1585
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 2: And then Game seven was almost a four gimee conclusion.

1586
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 3: I've got a final good one when we come back

1587
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 3: from break.

1588
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll be eagerly awaiting that. So we take a

1589
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 2: break here, we'll get Maddie's comeback or collapse whichever category

1590
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 2: it falls into. More when we return here on one

1591
01:27:54,160 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 2: of Bill's Live, stay with us. All right, back here

1592
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live. Just a little bit of time

1593
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 2: left here, and Maddie's got her pick for something that

1594
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 2: could potentially rise to the level of what we may

1595
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 2: see tonight in Game seven between the Oilers and the Panthers.

1596
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 3: All right, this is an epic collapse. We've been talking

1597
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 3: about the Chicago Cubs and just baseball. I'm a Cubs fan,

1598
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 3: grub watching the Cubs, being from Chicago. I go back

1599
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 3: to the two thousand and three NL Championship Series. So

1600
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 3: the Cubs led the series three to two. This is

1601
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 3: Game six. They were up three to nothing. It was

1602
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 3: the eighth inning. There's a ball hit to left field,

1603
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 3: kind of near the fans, and Moises Alu sticks his

1604
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 3: glove up in the air and it's the infamous Steve

1605
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 3: Bartman game. Mois Salu does not catch the ball and

1606
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 3: the Cubs lost the game. They would go on and

1607
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 3: lose Game seven, lose the series. It is something that's

1608
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 3: etched in my brain because I remember watching it as

1609
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,759
Speaker 3: a kid. But I feel so bad for what happened

1610
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,520
Speaker 3: to Steve Bartman. Afterward, the death threats that he received.

1611
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 3: That is no way that a fan should be treated.

1612
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 3: So it's something. It's a game in a series that

1613
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 3: I remember a lot but also feel so terrible about

1614
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 3: for how that guy was truing.

1615
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so bad. They did a ESPN did

1616
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: a thirty for thirty on that Bartman and the whole thing.

1617
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 2: But it's all right. You got redemption in twenty sixteen.

1618
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:40,839
Speaker 2: Bartman was redeemed, so hopefully he enjoyed the twenty sixteen

1619
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 2: YEA World Series title as much as every other cub fan.

1620
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 2: Thanks for all the comments today and the calls some

1621
01:29:47,040 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 2: good submissions. We appreciate it. We'll see you tomorrow at one,

1622
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:02,640
Speaker 2: he